What does Spain have to hide by blocking Kosovo
or gain?
(Sam, 2 February 2018 03:41)
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Maybe they just don't like you.
(Peggy, 5 February 2018 02:23)
What that doesnt make sense Peggy sue?
anyway...
you dont get it do you?
Spain isnt interested in Kosovo or Serbia
it about its own regions
after Spain gets some assurances
and the EU family is back talking
it will be businesses as usual
(iron knee, 2 February 2018 17:08)
(Victory1812, 2 February 2018 11:02)
The US has a more pressing issue to deal with than what will happen in 30 years’ time. If it gets any further out of control, there may not be a US to talk about.
The US has a debt to GDP ratio of 420%. Government debt is $24 trillion plus, which includes Federal, state and local government. It equates to 128% of GDP with the balanced being household and corporate debt.
Its unfunded liabilities range anywhere from $100 trillion to $250 trillion depending the criteria used. It has a $19 trillion economy, but US Treasury has created (printed) $12 trillion to stimulate a stagnant economy, which has miserably failed, and the money is still on the books. This is a bloated economy. Every penny must be accounted for and every penny must be repaid. The US government is paying a huge amount of interest on this debt and they are still borrowing more.
After the 2008 GFC, the US citizens were first using savings to maintain a certain level of living standard and when savings were depleted debt was next. Today most Americans have no savings. About 75% of fulltime workers live from pay-day to pay-day.
If you take comfort from Trump causing the stock market to rise, don’t since its already overpriced and sooner or later there must be a correction. On the front that wages have risen in the US, they haven’t at all since it has been over 30 years since the US worker has had a proper wage rise.
Spain is a true friend of Serbia and many more will soon jump on the band wagon. However, the EU will not even exist in 2025, So lets not waist energy with them. Build economic partnerships with countries throughout the world. Forming a PAN ORTHODOX BALKAN CONFEDERATION is the way to go.
likely not far off in your assessment. the writing has been on the wall where canada is concerned for a number of decades now.
and just think, canada is america's number 1 trading partner, best socio-economic friend, their cultures are closer than any other two neighboring cultures, and america has not one hesitation to tear apart its best friend. i wonder what all the other, so-called friends, momentary allies, and politically convenient acquaintances will think might happen to them when america wants, or no longer cares.
take canada and quebec for example. canada says its an internal issue (hmm, i do believe jugoslavia said the same thing), where as quebec will argue that there is a freedom of choice precident. the world will make their decisions as to what they think, and canada or quebec be damned when the world decides to (a) recognize quebec's declarations, or (b) recognizes canada's territorial integrity.
(iron knee, 1 February 2018 22:30)
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In approximately 30 years, when the US starts running out of domestic oil and the dry western US states starve for water, the disintegration of Canada will be completed. By this time, the US will have increased their covert support of the diverse separatists that include the strong right in Alberta, leftist francophones in Quebec, and Inuit in the north. The plans for Canada’s material wealth have already been written.
It looks like EU in fighting could delay Serbia even if it meets all the requirements. It looks like maybe just Montenegro in 2025.
(Mark.W, 1 February 2018 22:32)
@ markie - sure, that’s what it looks like, 😂 win-win for BG!
Your a great ally España!!!!!
As for our Serbian Province Kosovo* you are a complete embarrassment to Europe.
Stick with Belgrade and you just might move on up and go places.
Lol. Hahaha.
they don’t want a full blown war
(Kosovo is gone......, 1 February 2018 16:18)
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You fail to comprehend the strategy of the US/NATO military industrial complex. It’s not whether war will be started in the Balkans, but more realistically the question for the US politburo is “When?”.
@ from Albania - HELLOOOO... Albanians from Albania DON'T WANT YOU!! They think you're Gypsy's...EVERY Albanian I work with thinks s**t of you albs in "kosova"...why can't you comprehend that! There is no "pretending"...what gain do I have of "pretending"... "troublemakers" is the word they used..
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 20:49) #
HAHA I'm from Albania.. This is unbelievabl... lol What kind of an albanian would talk bad to a serb for their brothers in Kosova? Stop trolling .. you are riduculuos. go play with you daddy kiddo. The "diversion" game you are playing is too big for you.
I think you're interpreting things to fit your narrative.
take canada and quebec for example. canada says its an internal issue (hmm, i do believe jugoslavia said the same thing), where as quebec will argue that there is a freedom of choice precident. the world will make their decisions as to what they think, and canada or quebec be damned when the world decides to (a) recognize quebec's declarations, or (b) recognizes canada's territorial integrity.
thats it. thats all it is.
its up to everyone else (as canada has shown, by not allowing other countries to same graciousness it is demanding (it is an internal issue)), not canada or quebec.
regarding spain and serbia's positions. spain has made the stance that it wished to uphold territorial integrity. it is thus up to serbia to decide where that territory lies, what its willing to do. if serbia accepts kosovo outside of its borders, spain has said it will respect serbia's decision (it is an internal matter to them, as is the catalan issue).
so not sure where the bullet to the foot is coming from.
@Chitown:
'raping children' is what you wrote, not me. That makes you the sick one.
But I'm glad that my 'deal' sounded idiotic to you. I agree, as it is as idiotic as your 'deal' where you suggest that Kosovo - where Serbia murdered thousands of children and elderly, burned whole villages, systematically raped thousands of women, expelled more than one million people, for which Serbia is world famous - would agree to have some failed and/or dictator states decide whether or not Kosovo should have divorced from the genocidal terror sponsored by the Serbian state. And that _after_ it got its independence recognized by the absolute majority of the democratic world.
War? What war? There will be no war...at least not with Serbia! BG made that clear...
(Watcher..)
Well Watcher, tell that to your leaders. They seem to love get their hands on 'Kosovo burden' so much that they'd go to war for it. Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.
Here, from your beloved religious leader:
Oh the foolishness of Spain's foreign policies, tying themselves up with Serbia's situation, limiting their options, making the talk about "precedents" self-fulfilling. It comes off as weakness. Look at Canada and Quebec. They said "there are no precedents", no matter what happens in Kosovo, Quebec is an internal matter for Canada. Closed the door to any talk about precedents. Closed the door to any influences from Kosovo's situation into the Quebec situation. Spain's foreign policy instead *willingly* associates Kosovo with its internal issues. Just mind-boggling obtuseness.
If Kosovo can only join as a region of Serbia, how will Serbia join? With or without Kosovo? When Serbia's time to join comes, will Spain say: you cannot join without Kosovo as a region? Or will Spain say: OK join the EU without Kosovo. If it is the latter, what sense does it make? Spain might be indirectly blocking Serbia's accession too, by being "bigger Serbs than Serbs' as Ari Gold says. This Spanish position might come and bite Serbia back.
@watcher:
So Albania doesn't want "Kosovo burden" and somehow Serbia is willing to go to war for the same "burden".
The idiocy.
(1+1=2, 1 February 2018 16:49)
@ 1+1=2 - War? What war? There will be no war...at least not with Serbia! BG made that clear...that is what the negotiating is for..if you want war, then I'm sure KFOR / NATO will oblige you...you will do what THEY tell you to do, not Serbia...have you even been reading the news lately?
As for us Albanians from Albania that don't want our brothers in Kosovo like some serbs here say.. you have no clue at all dear neigbors. Stop pretending that you know our feelings because you don't. All the Albanians in Albania have always seen the Albaians living outside our border as part of our country and NATION. We would take Kosovo with us if we could at any moment , at any cost. Don't foul yourself.
As for Spain, well what can we say , thank you Spain for discovering AMERICA. We don't need you help anymore, you have done enough for us. I personally love Spain and all here in Albania love Spain. Beautiful country and very good people especially the catalans of Barcelona. The most polite and decente people i have ever met. Adio muchachos. See you in Spain this summer. hahah ;)
(from Albania, 1 February 2018 17:05)
@ from Albania - HELLOOOO... Albanians from Albania DON'T WANT YOU!! They think you're Gypsy's...EVERY Albanian I work with thinks s**t of you albs in "kosova"...why can't you comprehend that! There is no "pretending"...what gain do I have of "pretending"... "troublemakers" is the word they used..
Chitown, it's like someone would ask you:
'how about I marry your daughter, rape and miss treat her every day until she decides to divorce me, and then we gather my friends and her friends and ask them vote if she should come back.
Deal?'
(Me an myself, 1 February 2018 18:05)
Did you come up with this idiotic response on your own, or did Azir coach you? How do you get from "let's have a secret vote" to "raping children" is beyond my comprehension; however, looking at who posted the remark, I can see that Albanians can't get the thought of raping children out of there system. I'll just assume you're one of the regular Albo trolls on here that's afraid of getting lambasted for their stupidity, so you decided to take on another alias, AGAIN...
Chitown, it's like someone would ask you:
'how about I marry your daughter, rape and miss treat her every day until she decides to divorce me, and then we gather my friends and her friends and ask them vote if she should come back.
Deal?'
Again, foreign governments proving they are bigger Serbs than the gov't in Belgrade. Spain is taking a hard line, while Vucic talks about "compromise", which because he is being so vague, can be understood as capitulation. That must never be allowed!
In Kosovo there is no rush. In serbia instead they seemed to be all so nervous and want to strike a deal as soon as possible with Kosovo, because they know that without a deal they cannot join the EU. hahah Kosovo EU integration process is somehow behind serbia or probably totally blocked. So Kosovo has no interest on making a deal with Serbia. Why should they? To help Serbia join the EU and to see themselves been further blocked by serbia this time through the EU? Nah.. they are not that stupid.
As for us Albanians from Albania that don't want our brothers in Kosovo like some serbs here say.. you have no clue at all dear neigbors. Stop pretending that you know our feelings because you don't. All the Albanians in Albania have always seen the Albaians living outside our border as part of our country and NATION. We would take Kosovo with us if we could at any moment , at any cost. Don't foul yourself.
As for Spain, well what can we say , thank you Spain for discovering AMERICA. We don't need you help anymore, you have done enough for us. I personally love Spain and all here in Albania love Spain. Beautiful country and very good people especially the catalans of Barcelona. The most polite and decente people i have ever met. Adio muchachos. See you in Spain this summer. hahah ;)
I knew this in November from a big meeting in Brussels.
I didn’t now that it was official.
Anyway, I have tried to explain and explain and explain here on B92 to the Albanians that the Kosovo saga as an own state is more than over.
I don’t care anymore about to try to counter with any answers because it’s like hitting the head against a wall.
Seven more EU countries are either hesitating or have said no as well for your information.
Stay on track Serbia, you get more and more support every month, especially after the Specialist Chamber fuzz.
Stay tuned for more information when I have time.
I think think the only way to make a dent on the issue of KiM is to have the EU and UN have a secret ballot - but, supervised by representatives from all the countries to ensure a fair vote. This way, no country has to fear retribution from the US/UK/West and they can vote their true opinion without being bullied. This would have to happen without warning and would need to be voted on immediately to work - this way you don't give the West a chance to influence the vote and further their agenda. What say yee my Albo compatriots? Deal?!?!
#Stan
doesn't matter what Spain say remember they are over 20 other member of EU who clearly say without clearfying the border there is no EU for Serbia so suck it up
There’s another option Kosovo becomes a region of Albania and joins with no problem. Serbia isn’t the only option no matter what b92 and its dear leader Vucic proclaims. The final option is Albanians don’t join the EU at all and create a partnership like that of Switzerland and Norway. Little Serbian trolls don’t realise that the EU may veto Kosovo’s membership but they can’t force them to join Serbia as they don’t want a full blown war in the middle of Europe. Kosovo is over 90% Albanian and they despise you and everything you stand for, they will never join Serbia again. You should stop worrying about Kosovo and start worrying about your shrinking population.
Listen terrorists. No eu without a deal. No one wants to live with these criminals anyway. Everyone hates you except Elliot Engel. Go and cry to him
Suck it up and behave like a human for a change.
Spain is a major European power. Along with the other EU nations who refuse to recognise the illegal Albanian usurpation of Kosovo-Metohija, she represents an immovable barrier to 'Kosovan' legitimacy on the international stage. No amount of bribery or bullying by the US/UK/Berlin axis will change that fact. Ever. And the situation in Catalonia has only served to harden attitudes in Madrid. The quicker the Albanian mafia in Pristina and Tirana realise the only way forward is meaningful negotiations with Belgrade the better. The alternative is a diplomatic stand off that will last forever. And in the meantime Albanian administered 'Kosova' rots.
And here comes the chorus of Albanian denialism saying none of this will happen because Spain is one country out of 27. Obviously they forgot so was the Netherlands which held up Serbia's EU hopes for years until all wanted war criminals were caught. Then there's tiny little Greece who holds up Macedonia's hopes for the EU and NATO.
But somehow Albanians get a pass, right? Nope! And no amount of shouting, posturing, or screaming in caps will change that.
Game Over guys. Unrecognized statelets don't get in :)
As far as Kosovo being given to Serbia, I hate to tell you that Albanians never had it to start off with. Anything Albanians did was to work for the Turks and somehow you have stretched it to owning Kosovo. As I have said before to claim something you need proof and there is not even a toothpick found in that region that says it Albanian. You guys claim your Ilyrians but no evidence to substantiate such a claim, not even a cave painting.
(sj, 1 February 2018 12:56)
SJ, u little internet warrior troll!
We have the best evidence a nation can have!
The fact that we have resided and continue to reside on over 97% of this land mass!!!
If it were Serbian then were are the Serb multitudes at numbnuts? Did they love their cradle that they all just packed up all their belongings and left? Leaving their sacred ancestral lands in the hands of a minority? Leaving their civilizations cradle in the hands of some weak minority Albanian nobodys?
Before you see the day when The Republic Of Kosova becomes a region of tyrannical Serbia, you should probably first help Serbia acquire a Hiroshima type
A-bomb? Because that is what it is going to take to see your delusional dream becoming reality!!!
MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH SPAIN OR SERBIA BUT WITH KOSOVA THAT DON'T WANT TO UNITE WITH ALBANIA, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. LETS HAVE REFERENDUM OPEN THE BORDERS AND LIKE GERMANY UNITE. THIS WILL END THE CONVERSETION . BUT KOSOVA POLITICIANS WANT TO BE IN POWER AND KEEP ALBANIANS DIVIDED. WE CAN DO IT VERY EASY JUST GO FOR REFERENDUM AND UNITE .BETTER STRONGER 5.5 MILLION ALBANIANS IN NATO AND IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO BAD.THEY DID'T LIKE KOSOVA INDIPENDENT NOW THEY GOING TO GET UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA.
(ari, 1 February 2018 13:31)
@ ari - one problem, silly...Albanians in Albania want NOTHING to do with you!
Why would they want that burden in their house?
Albania proper has aspirations for EU too, ya know...
Spain, You will never see that day where
The Republic Of Kosova revokes its own Declaration of Independence and becomes a occupied region under Serbia, the hundred year resistance should have been your guide and insight on the subject!!!
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You guys should really pick a reason and stick with it.
You've been saying for years now how it's all because of Milosevic and his genocidal ways and now you're saying you've been plotting this for 100 years. Milosevic must be a vampire because there is no other way he was around that long.
MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH SPAIN OR SERBIA BUT WITH KOSOVA THAT DON'T WANT TO UNITE WITH ALBANIA, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. LETS HAVE REFERENDUM OPEN THE BORDERS AND LIKE GERMANY UNITE. THIS WILL END THE CONVERSETION . BUT KOSOVA POLITICIANS WANT TO BE IN POWER AND KEEP ALBANIANS DIVIDED. WE CAN DO IT VERY EASY JUST GO FOR REFERENDUM AND UNITE .BETTER STRONGER 5.5 MILLION ALBANIANS IN NATO AND IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO BAD.THEY DID'T LIKE KOSOVA INDIPENDENT NOW THEY GOING TO GET UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA.
Spain, You will never see that day where
The Republic Of Kosova revokes its own Declaration of Independence and becomes a occupied region under Serbia, the hundred year resistance should have been your guide and insight on the subject!!!
I think the EU will soon censor and penalize Spain for this out of line statement, maybe economically?
2 million Albanians that have inhabited this area for millennia, acknowledged by Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Croatia, Slovenia?
But not by a tyrannical Serbia, Hmmmm?
Don't know what your up to Spain but what ever it is it is undemocratic and very dangerous!!!
Kosovo independent is equivalent with Transylvania independent if very unfair what happened
Serbia should been accepted in Eu as a compensation for war demages and Eu to pay money to Serbia
An interesting thing is that they accepted the big Romania in Eu they would payed to Serbia less money than to Romania because look at map how small is Serbia
I think Eu fear of Serbia to not develop because Serbia already have a good highways infrastructure and is a luxury where is located Serbia on the map
For example here in Romania we say if you live in Timisoara that you are very luck because you can travel fast in many countries
Kosovo as much as Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Basques are 'mistakes" that EU did at the expenses on same nations and she had to face them.
Spain more than any other country has problems with Basques and Catalans....
Spain soon or latter will 'face' Catalans and even Basques and all we know that.
(Joni, 1 February 2018 11:53)
No Spain will not have to deal with any of it since the EU now recognizes that Catalonia or basques would only be a terrible financial burden on EU funds like Kosovo.
As far as Kosovo being given to Serbia, I hate to tell you that Albanians never had it to start off with. Anything Albanians did was to work for the Turks and somehow you have stretched it to owning Kosovo. As I have said before to claim something you need proof and there is not even a toothpick found in that region that says it Albanian. You guys claim your Ilyrians but no evidence to substantiate such a claim, not even a cave painting.
All the countries that don't recognize Kosovo have a problem ' to hide' on their own countries.
(Joni, 1 February 2018 10:54)
S*** happens. Do you think that the west loves Albanians? They do'nt give a rat's arse and that's why Kosovo is stagnant. Their biggest problem is to accept they have made a huge mistake and are now stuck with feeding and clothing that cess pool called Kosova.
S*** happens. Do you think that the west loves Albanians? They do'nt give a rat's arse and that's why Kosovo is stagnant. Their biggest problem is to accept they have made a huge mistake and are now stuck with feeding and clothing that cess pool called Kosova.
(sj, 1 February 2018 11:27)
No! The West don't 'love' Albanians for sure, because if they will, would never given Kosovo to Serbia in WWI.
THAT WAS THEIR MISTAKE SJ!
And they finally face just what they did.
Kosovo as much as Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Basques are 'mistakes" that EU did at the expenses on same nations and she had to face them.
Spain more than any other country has problems with Basques and Catalans....
Spain soon or latter will 'face' Catalans and even Basques and all we know that.
27 other EU states says Legal binding document with Kosovo to be signed before Serbia is considered to join EU? (Which means recognition) 1. state says Serbia only with Kosovo as its region can join the EU? I think the EU should make up their mind. Britain done a good thing. NO EU. I think this will be the best choice.
Spain can't hide its own problem, trying to block Kosovo.
We all know the history of Catalonia.
And we all know that she don't give a f... about Serbia but about Catalonia.
I wounder could Spain 'enslave' forever Catalans?
And trying to block others don't resolve their problem.
All the countries that don't recognize Kosovo have a problem ' to hide' on their own countries.
All the countries that don't recognize Kosovo have a problem ' to hide' on their own countries.
(Joni, 1 February 2018 10:54)
S*** happens. Do you think that the west loves Albanians? They do'nt give a rat's arse and that's why Kosovo is stagnant. Their biggest problem is to accept they have made a huge mistake and are now stuck with feeding and clothing that cess pool called Kosova.
Kosovo as much as Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Basques are 'mistakes" that EU did at the expenses on same nations and she had to face them.
Spain more than any other country has problems with Basques and Catalans....
Spain soon or latter will 'face' Catalans and even Basques and all we know that.
(Joni, 1 February 2018 11:53)
No Spain will not have to deal with any of it since the EU now recognizes that Catalonia or basques would only be a terrible financial burden on EU funds like Kosovo.
As far as Kosovo being given to Serbia, I hate to tell you that Albanians never had it to start off with. Anything Albanians did was to work for the Turks and somehow you have stretched it to owning Kosovo. As I have said before to claim something you need proof and there is not even a toothpick found in that region that says it Albanian. You guys claim your Ilyrians but no evidence to substantiate such a claim, not even a cave painting.
Spain, You will never see that day where
The Republic Of Kosova revokes its own Declaration of Independence and becomes a occupied region under Serbia, the hundred year resistance should have been your guide and insight on the subject!!!
============================
You guys should really pick a reason and stick with it.
You've been saying for years now how it's all because of Milosevic and his genocidal ways and now you're saying you've been plotting this for 100 years. Milosevic must be a vampire because there is no other way he was around that long.
And here comes the chorus of Albanian denialism saying none of this will happen because Spain is one country out of 27. Obviously they forgot so was the Netherlands which held up Serbia's EU hopes for years until all wanted war criminals were caught. Then there's tiny little Greece who holds up Macedonia's hopes for the EU and NATO.
But somehow Albanians get a pass, right? Nope! And no amount of shouting, posturing, or screaming in caps will change that.
Game Over guys. Unrecognized statelets don't get in :)
Spain is a true friend of Serbia and many more will soon jump on the band wagon. However, the EU will not even exist in 2025, So lets not waist energy with them. Build economic partnerships with countries throughout the world. Forming a PAN ORTHODOX BALKAN CONFEDERATION is the way to go.
Spain is a major European power. Along with the other EU nations who refuse to recognise the illegal Albanian usurpation of Kosovo-Metohija, she represents an immovable barrier to 'Kosovan' legitimacy on the international stage. No amount of bribery or bullying by the US/UK/Berlin axis will change that fact. Ever. And the situation in Catalonia has only served to harden attitudes in Madrid. The quicker the Albanian mafia in Pristina and Tirana realise the only way forward is meaningful negotiations with Belgrade the better. The alternative is a diplomatic stand off that will last forever. And in the meantime Albanian administered 'Kosova' rots.
I knew this in November from a big meeting in Brussels.
I didn’t now that it was official.
Anyway, I have tried to explain and explain and explain here on B92 to the Albanians that the Kosovo saga as an own state is more than over.
I don’t care anymore about to try to counter with any answers because it’s like hitting the head against a wall.
Seven more EU countries are either hesitating or have said no as well for your information.
Stay on track Serbia, you get more and more support every month, especially after the Specialist Chamber fuzz.
Stay tuned for more information when I have time.
MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH SPAIN OR SERBIA BUT WITH KOSOVA THAT DON'T WANT TO UNITE WITH ALBANIA, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. LETS HAVE REFERENDUM OPEN THE BORDERS AND LIKE GERMANY UNITE. THIS WILL END THE CONVERSETION . BUT KOSOVA POLITICIANS WANT TO BE IN POWER AND KEEP ALBANIANS DIVIDED. WE CAN DO IT VERY EASY JUST GO FOR REFERENDUM AND UNITE .BETTER STRONGER 5.5 MILLION ALBANIANS IN NATO AND IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO BAD.THEY DID'T LIKE KOSOVA INDIPENDENT NOW THEY GOING TO GET UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA.
(ari, 1 February 2018 13:31)
@ ari - one problem, silly...Albanians in Albania want NOTHING to do with you!
Why would they want that burden in their house?
Albania proper has aspirations for EU too, ya know...
27 other EU states says Legal binding document with Kosovo to be signed before Serbia is considered to join EU? (Which means recognition) 1. state says Serbia only with Kosovo as its region can join the EU? I think the EU should make up their mind. Britain done a good thing. NO EU. I think this will be the best choice.
Listen terrorists. No eu without a deal. No one wants to live with these criminals anyway. Everyone hates you except Elliot Engel. Go and cry to him
Suck it up and behave like a human for a change.
Your a great ally España!!!!!
As for our Serbian Province Kosovo* you are a complete embarrassment to Europe.
Stick with Belgrade and you just might move on up and go places.
Lol. Hahaha.
Spain can't hide its own problem, trying to block Kosovo.
We all know the history of Catalonia.
And we all know that she don't give a f... about Serbia but about Catalonia.
I wounder could Spain 'enslave' forever Catalans?
And trying to block others don't resolve their problem.
All the countries that don't recognize Kosovo have a problem ' to hide' on their own countries.
I think think the only way to make a dent on the issue of KiM is to have the EU and UN have a secret ballot - but, supervised by representatives from all the countries to ensure a fair vote. This way, no country has to fear retribution from the US/UK/West and they can vote their true opinion without being bullied. This would have to happen without warning and would need to be voted on immediately to work - this way you don't give the West a chance to influence the vote and further their agenda. What say yee my Albo compatriots? Deal?!?!
Again, foreign governments proving they are bigger Serbs than the gov't in Belgrade. Spain is taking a hard line, while Vucic talks about "compromise", which because he is being so vague, can be understood as capitulation. That must never be allowed!
As for us Albanians from Albania that don't want our brothers in Kosovo like some serbs here say.. you have no clue at all dear neigbors. Stop pretending that you know our feelings because you don't. All the Albanians in Albania have always seen the Albaians living outside our border as part of our country and NATION. We would take Kosovo with us if we could at any moment , at any cost. Don't foul yourself.
As for Spain, well what can we say , thank you Spain for discovering AMERICA. We don't need you help anymore, you have done enough for us. I personally love Spain and all here in Albania love Spain. Beautiful country and very good people especially the catalans of Barcelona. The most polite and decente people i have ever met. Adio muchachos. See you in Spain this summer. hahah ;)
(from Albania, 1 February 2018 17:05)
@ from Albania - HELLOOOO... Albanians from Albania DON'T WANT YOU!! They think you're Gypsy's...EVERY Albanian I work with thinks s**t of you albs in "kosova"...why can't you comprehend that! There is no "pretending"...what gain do I have of "pretending"... "troublemakers" is the word they used..
they don’t want a full blown war
(Kosovo is gone......, 1 February 2018 16:18)
——
You fail to comprehend the strategy of the US/NATO military industrial complex. It’s not whether war will be started in the Balkans, but more realistically the question for the US politburo is “When?”.
As far as Kosovo being given to Serbia, I hate to tell you that Albanians never had it to start off with. Anything Albanians did was to work for the Turks and somehow you have stretched it to owning Kosovo. As I have said before to claim something you need proof and there is not even a toothpick found in that region that says it Albanian. You guys claim your Ilyrians but no evidence to substantiate such a claim, not even a cave painting.
(sj, 1 February 2018 12:56)
SJ, u little internet warrior troll!
We have the best evidence a nation can have!
The fact that we have resided and continue to reside on over 97% of this land mass!!!
If it were Serbian then were are the Serb multitudes at numbnuts? Did they love their cradle that they all just packed up all their belongings and left? Leaving their sacred ancestral lands in the hands of a minority? Leaving their civilizations cradle in the hands of some weak minority Albanian nobodys?
Chitown, it's like someone would ask you:
'how about I marry your daughter, rape and miss treat her every day until she decides to divorce me, and then we gather my friends and her friends and ask them vote if she should come back.
Deal?'
(Me an myself, 1 February 2018 18:05)
Did you come up with this idiotic response on your own, or did Azir coach you? How do you get from "let's have a secret vote" to "raping children" is beyond my comprehension; however, looking at who posted the remark, I can see that Albanians can't get the thought of raping children out of there system. I'll just assume you're one of the regular Albo trolls on here that's afraid of getting lambasted for their stupidity, so you decided to take on another alias, AGAIN...
S*** happens. Do you think that the west loves Albanians? They do'nt give a rat's arse and that's why Kosovo is stagnant. Their biggest problem is to accept they have made a huge mistake and are now stuck with feeding and clothing that cess pool called Kosova.
(sj, 1 February 2018 11:27)
No! The West don't 'love' Albanians for sure, because if they will, would never given Kosovo to Serbia in WWI.
THAT WAS THEIR MISTAKE SJ!
And they finally face just what they did.
Kosovo as much as Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Basques are 'mistakes" that EU did at the expenses on same nations and she had to face them.
Spain more than any other country has problems with Basques and Catalans....
Spain soon or latter will 'face' Catalans and even Basques and all we know that.
Spain, You will never see that day where
The Republic Of Kosova revokes its own Declaration of Independence and becomes a occupied region under Serbia, the hundred year resistance should have been your guide and insight on the subject!!!
I think the EU will soon censor and penalize Spain for this out of line statement, maybe economically?
2 million Albanians that have inhabited this area for millennia, acknowledged by Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Croatia, Slovenia?
But not by a tyrannical Serbia, Hmmmm?
Don't know what your up to Spain but what ever it is it is undemocratic and very dangerous!!!
@watcher:
So Albania doesn't want "Kosovo burden" and somehow Serbia is willing to go to war for the same "burden".
The idiocy.
(1+1=2, 1 February 2018 16:49)
@ 1+1=2 - War? What war? There will be no war...at least not with Serbia! BG made that clear...that is what the negotiating is for..if you want war, then I'm sure KFOR / NATO will oblige you...you will do what THEY tell you to do, not Serbia...have you even been reading the news lately?
likely not far off in your assessment. the writing has been on the wall where canada is concerned for a number of decades now.
and just think, canada is america's number 1 trading partner, best socio-economic friend, their cultures are closer than any other two neighboring cultures, and america has not one hesitation to tear apart its best friend. i wonder what all the other, so-called friends, momentary allies, and politically convenient acquaintances will think might happen to them when america wants, or no longer cares.
It looks like EU in fighting could delay Serbia even if it meets all the requirements. It looks like maybe just Montenegro in 2025.
(Mark.W, 1 February 2018 22:32)
@ markie - sure, that’s what it looks like, 😂 win-win for BG!
take canada and quebec for example. canada says its an internal issue (hmm, i do believe jugoslavia said the same thing), where as quebec will argue that there is a freedom of choice precident. the world will make their decisions as to what they think, and canada or quebec be damned when the world decides to (a) recognize quebec's declarations, or (b) recognizes canada's territorial integrity.
(iron knee, 1 February 2018 22:30)
——
In approximately 30 years, when the US starts running out of domestic oil and the dry western US states starve for water, the disintegration of Canada will be completed. By this time, the US will have increased their covert support of the diverse separatists that include the strong right in Alberta, leftist francophones in Quebec, and Inuit in the north. The plans for Canada’s material wealth have already been written.
Kosovo independent is equivalent with Transylvania independent if very unfair what happened
Serbia should been accepted in Eu as a compensation for war demages and Eu to pay money to Serbia
An interesting thing is that they accepted the big Romania in Eu they would payed to Serbia less money than to Romania because look at map how small is Serbia
I think Eu fear of Serbia to not develop because Serbia already have a good highways infrastructure and is a luxury where is located Serbia on the map
For example here in Romania we say if you live in Timisoara that you are very luck because you can travel fast in many countries
MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH SPAIN OR SERBIA BUT WITH KOSOVA THAT DON'T WANT TO UNITE WITH ALBANIA, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. LETS HAVE REFERENDUM OPEN THE BORDERS AND LIKE GERMANY UNITE. THIS WILL END THE CONVERSETION . BUT KOSOVA POLITICIANS WANT TO BE IN POWER AND KEEP ALBANIANS DIVIDED. WE CAN DO IT VERY EASY JUST GO FOR REFERENDUM AND UNITE .BETTER STRONGER 5.5 MILLION ALBANIANS IN NATO AND IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO BAD.THEY DID'T LIKE KOSOVA INDIPENDENT NOW THEY GOING TO GET UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA.
Before you see the day when The Republic Of Kosova becomes a region of tyrannical Serbia, you should probably first help Serbia acquire a Hiroshima type
A-bomb? Because that is what it is going to take to see your delusional dream becoming reality!!!
There’s another option Kosovo becomes a region of Albania and joins with no problem. Serbia isn’t the only option no matter what b92 and its dear leader Vucic proclaims. The final option is Albanians don’t join the EU at all and create a partnership like that of Switzerland and Norway. Little Serbian trolls don’t realise that the EU may veto Kosovo’s membership but they can’t force them to join Serbia as they don’t want a full blown war in the middle of Europe. Kosovo is over 90% Albanian and they despise you and everything you stand for, they will never join Serbia again. You should stop worrying about Kosovo and start worrying about your shrinking population.
In Kosovo there is no rush. In serbia instead they seemed to be all so nervous and want to strike a deal as soon as possible with Kosovo, because they know that without a deal they cannot join the EU. hahah Kosovo EU integration process is somehow behind serbia or probably totally blocked. So Kosovo has no interest on making a deal with Serbia. Why should they? To help Serbia join the EU and to see themselves been further blocked by serbia this time through the EU? Nah.. they are not that stupid.
As for us Albanians from Albania that don't want our brothers in Kosovo like some serbs here say.. you have no clue at all dear neigbors. Stop pretending that you know our feelings because you don't. All the Albanians in Albania have always seen the Albaians living outside our border as part of our country and NATION. We would take Kosovo with us if we could at any moment , at any cost. Don't foul yourself.
As for Spain, well what can we say , thank you Spain for discovering AMERICA. We don't need you help anymore, you have done enough for us. I personally love Spain and all here in Albania love Spain. Beautiful country and very good people especially the catalans of Barcelona. The most polite and decente people i have ever met. Adio muchachos. See you in Spain this summer. hahah ;)
Chitown, it's like someone would ask you:
'how about I marry your daughter, rape and miss treat her every day until she decides to divorce me, and then we gather my friends and her friends and ask them vote if she should come back.
Deal?'
@ from Albania - HELLOOOO... Albanians from Albania DON'T WANT YOU!! They think you're Gypsy's...EVERY Albanian I work with thinks s**t of you albs in "kosova"...why can't you comprehend that! There is no "pretending"...what gain do I have of "pretending"... "troublemakers" is the word they used..
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 20:49) #
HAHA I'm from Albania.. This is unbelievabl... lol What kind of an albanian would talk bad to a serb for their brothers in Kosova? Stop trolling .. you are riduculuos. go play with you daddy kiddo. The "diversion" game you are playing is too big for you.
I think you're interpreting things to fit your narrative.
take canada and quebec for example. canada says its an internal issue (hmm, i do believe jugoslavia said the same thing), where as quebec will argue that there is a freedom of choice precident. the world will make their decisions as to what they think, and canada or quebec be damned when the world decides to (a) recognize quebec's declarations, or (b) recognizes canada's territorial integrity.
thats it. thats all it is.
its up to everyone else (as canada has shown, by not allowing other countries to same graciousness it is demanding (it is an internal issue)), not canada or quebec.
regarding spain and serbia's positions. spain has made the stance that it wished to uphold territorial integrity. it is thus up to serbia to decide where that territory lies, what its willing to do. if serbia accepts kosovo outside of its borders, spain has said it will respect serbia's decision (it is an internal matter to them, as is the catalan issue).
so not sure where the bullet to the foot is coming from.
(iron knee, 2 February 2018 17:08)
(Victory1812, 2 February 2018 11:02)
The US has a more pressing issue to deal with than what will happen in 30 years’ time. If it gets any further out of control, there may not be a US to talk about.
The US has a debt to GDP ratio of 420%. Government debt is $24 trillion plus, which includes Federal, state and local government. It equates to 128% of GDP with the balanced being household and corporate debt.
Its unfunded liabilities range anywhere from $100 trillion to $250 trillion depending the criteria used. It has a $19 trillion economy, but US Treasury has created (printed) $12 trillion to stimulate a stagnant economy, which has miserably failed, and the money is still on the books. This is a bloated economy. Every penny must be accounted for and every penny must be repaid. The US government is paying a huge amount of interest on this debt and they are still borrowing more.
After the 2008 GFC, the US citizens were first using savings to maintain a certain level of living standard and when savings were depleted debt was next. Today most Americans have no savings. About 75% of fulltime workers live from pay-day to pay-day.
If you take comfort from Trump causing the stock market to rise, don’t since its already overpriced and sooner or later there must be a correction. On the front that wages have risen in the US, they haven’t at all since it has been over 30 years since the US worker has had a proper wage rise.
#Stan
doesn't matter what Spain say remember they are over 20 other member of EU who clearly say without clearfying the border there is no EU for Serbia so suck it up
@Chitown:
'raping children' is what you wrote, not me. That makes you the sick one.
But I'm glad that my 'deal' sounded idiotic to you. I agree, as it is as idiotic as your 'deal' where you suggest that Kosovo - where Serbia murdered thousands of children and elderly, burned whole villages, systematically raped thousands of women, expelled more than one million people, for which Serbia is world famous - would agree to have some failed and/or dictator states decide whether or not Kosovo should have divorced from the genocidal terror sponsored by the Serbian state. And that _after_ it got its independence recognized by the absolute majority of the democratic world.
War? What war? There will be no war...at least not with Serbia! BG made that clear...
(Watcher..)
Well Watcher, tell that to your leaders. They seem to love get their hands on 'Kosovo burden' so much that they'd go to war for it. Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.
Here, from your beloved religious leader:
Oh the foolishness of Spain's foreign policies, tying themselves up with Serbia's situation, limiting their options, making the talk about "precedents" self-fulfilling. It comes off as weakness. Look at Canada and Quebec. They said "there are no precedents", no matter what happens in Kosovo, Quebec is an internal matter for Canada. Closed the door to any talk about precedents. Closed the door to any influences from Kosovo's situation into the Quebec situation. Spain's foreign policy instead *willingly* associates Kosovo with its internal issues. Just mind-boggling obtuseness.
If Kosovo can only join as a region of Serbia, how will Serbia join? With or without Kosovo? When Serbia's time to join comes, will Spain say: you cannot join without Kosovo as a region? Or will Spain say: OK join the EU without Kosovo. If it is the latter, what sense does it make? Spain might be indirectly blocking Serbia's accession too, by being "bigger Serbs than Serbs' as Ari Gold says. This Spanish position might come and bite Serbia back.
What does Spain have to hide by blocking Kosovo
or gain?
(Sam, 2 February 2018 03:41)
===…==
Maybe they just don't like you.
(Peggy, 5 February 2018 02:23)
What that doesnt make sense Peggy sue?
anyway...
you dont get it do you?
Spain isnt interested in Kosovo or Serbia
it about its own regions
after Spain gets some assurances
and the EU family is back talking
it will be businesses as usual
Spain, You will never see that day where
The Republic Of Kosova revokes its own Declaration of Independence and becomes a occupied region under Serbia, the hundred year resistance should have been your guide and insight on the subject!!!
I think the EU will soon censor and penalize Spain for this out of line statement, maybe economically?
2 million Albanians that have inhabited this area for millennia, acknowledged by Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Croatia, Slovenia?
But not by a tyrannical Serbia, Hmmmm?
Don't know what your up to Spain but what ever it is it is undemocratic and very dangerous!!!
As far as Kosovo being given to Serbia, I hate to tell you that Albanians never had it to start off with. Anything Albanians did was to work for the Turks and somehow you have stretched it to owning Kosovo. As I have said before to claim something you need proof and there is not even a toothpick found in that region that says it Albanian. You guys claim your Ilyrians but no evidence to substantiate such a claim, not even a cave painting.
(sj, 1 February 2018 12:56)
SJ, u little internet warrior troll!
We have the best evidence a nation can have!
The fact that we have resided and continue to reside on over 97% of this land mass!!!
If it were Serbian then were are the Serb multitudes at numbnuts? Did they love their cradle that they all just packed up all their belongings and left? Leaving their sacred ancestral lands in the hands of a minority? Leaving their civilizations cradle in the hands of some weak minority Albanian nobodys?
Spain can't hide its own problem, trying to block Kosovo.
We all know the history of Catalonia.
And we all know that she don't give a f... about Serbia but about Catalonia.
I wounder could Spain 'enslave' forever Catalans?
And trying to block others don't resolve their problem.
All the countries that don't recognize Kosovo have a problem ' to hide' on their own countries.
S*** happens. Do you think that the west loves Albanians? They do'nt give a rat's arse and that's why Kosovo is stagnant. Their biggest problem is to accept they have made a huge mistake and are now stuck with feeding and clothing that cess pool called Kosova.
(sj, 1 February 2018 11:27)
No! The West don't 'love' Albanians for sure, because if they will, would never given Kosovo to Serbia in WWI.
THAT WAS THEIR MISTAKE SJ!
And they finally face just what they did.
Kosovo as much as Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Basques are 'mistakes" that EU did at the expenses on same nations and she had to face them.
Spain more than any other country has problems with Basques and Catalans....
Spain soon or latter will 'face' Catalans and even Basques and all we know that.
@ from Albania - HELLOOOO... Albanians from Albania DON'T WANT YOU!! They think you're Gypsy's...EVERY Albanian I work with thinks s**t of you albs in "kosova"...why can't you comprehend that! There is no "pretending"...what gain do I have of "pretending"... "troublemakers" is the word they used..
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 20:49) #
HAHA I'm from Albania.. This is unbelievabl... lol What kind of an albanian would talk bad to a serb for their brothers in Kosova? Stop trolling .. you are riduculuos. go play with you daddy kiddo. The "diversion" game you are playing is too big for you.
MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH SPAIN OR SERBIA BUT WITH KOSOVA THAT DON'T WANT TO UNITE WITH ALBANIA, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. LETS HAVE REFERENDUM OPEN THE BORDERS AND LIKE GERMANY UNITE. THIS WILL END THE CONVERSETION . BUT KOSOVA POLITICIANS WANT TO BE IN POWER AND KEEP ALBANIANS DIVIDED. WE CAN DO IT VERY EASY JUST GO FOR REFERENDUM AND UNITE .BETTER STRONGER 5.5 MILLION ALBANIANS IN NATO AND IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO BAD.THEY DID'T LIKE KOSOVA INDIPENDENT NOW THEY GOING TO GET UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA.
Before you see the day when The Republic Of Kosova becomes a region of tyrannical Serbia, you should probably first help Serbia acquire a Hiroshima type
A-bomb? Because that is what it is going to take to see your delusional dream becoming reality!!!
There’s another option Kosovo becomes a region of Albania and joins with no problem. Serbia isn’t the only option no matter what b92 and its dear leader Vucic proclaims. The final option is Albanians don’t join the EU at all and create a partnership like that of Switzerland and Norway. Little Serbian trolls don’t realise that the EU may veto Kosovo’s membership but they can’t force them to join Serbia as they don’t want a full blown war in the middle of Europe. Kosovo is over 90% Albanian and they despise you and everything you stand for, they will never join Serbia again. You should stop worrying about Kosovo and start worrying about your shrinking population.
In Kosovo there is no rush. In serbia instead they seemed to be all so nervous and want to strike a deal as soon as possible with Kosovo, because they know that without a deal they cannot join the EU. hahah Kosovo EU integration process is somehow behind serbia or probably totally blocked. So Kosovo has no interest on making a deal with Serbia. Why should they? To help Serbia join the EU and to see themselves been further blocked by serbia this time through the EU? Nah.. they are not that stupid.
As for us Albanians from Albania that don't want our brothers in Kosovo like some serbs here say.. you have no clue at all dear neigbors. Stop pretending that you know our feelings because you don't. All the Albanians in Albania have always seen the Albaians living outside our border as part of our country and NATION. We would take Kosovo with us if we could at any moment , at any cost. Don't foul yourself.
As for Spain, well what can we say , thank you Spain for discovering AMERICA. We don't need you help anymore, you have done enough for us. I personally love Spain and all here in Albania love Spain. Beautiful country and very good people especially the catalans of Barcelona. The most polite and decente people i have ever met. Adio muchachos. See you in Spain this summer. hahah ;)
#Stan
doesn't matter what Spain say remember they are over 20 other member of EU who clearly say without clearfying the border there is no EU for Serbia so suck it up
All the countries that don't recognize Kosovo have a problem ' to hide' on their own countries.
(Joni, 1 February 2018 10:54)
S*** happens. Do you think that the west loves Albanians? They do'nt give a rat's arse and that's why Kosovo is stagnant. Their biggest problem is to accept they have made a huge mistake and are now stuck with feeding and clothing that cess pool called Kosova.
Chitown, it's like someone would ask you:
'how about I marry your daughter, rape and miss treat her every day until she decides to divorce me, and then we gather my friends and her friends and ask them vote if she should come back.
Deal?'
Oh the foolishness of Spain's foreign policies, tying themselves up with Serbia's situation, limiting their options, making the talk about "precedents" self-fulfilling. It comes off as weakness. Look at Canada and Quebec. They said "there are no precedents", no matter what happens in Kosovo, Quebec is an internal matter for Canada. Closed the door to any talk about precedents. Closed the door to any influences from Kosovo's situation into the Quebec situation. Spain's foreign policy instead *willingly* associates Kosovo with its internal issues. Just mind-boggling obtuseness.
If Kosovo can only join as a region of Serbia, how will Serbia join? With or without Kosovo? When Serbia's time to join comes, will Spain say: you cannot join without Kosovo as a region? Or will Spain say: OK join the EU without Kosovo. If it is the latter, what sense does it make? Spain might be indirectly blocking Serbia's accession too, by being "bigger Serbs than Serbs' as Ari Gold says. This Spanish position might come and bite Serbia back.
Kosovo independent is equivalent with Transylvania independent if very unfair what happened
Serbia should been accepted in Eu as a compensation for war demages and Eu to pay money to Serbia
An interesting thing is that they accepted the big Romania in Eu they would payed to Serbia less money than to Romania because look at map how small is Serbia
I think Eu fear of Serbia to not develop because Serbia already have a good highways infrastructure and is a luxury where is located Serbia on the map
For example here in Romania we say if you live in Timisoara that you are very luck because you can travel fast in many countries
Spain, You will never see that day where
The Republic Of Kosova revokes its own Declaration of Independence and becomes a occupied region under Serbia, the hundred year resistance should have been your guide and insight on the subject!!!
============================
You guys should really pick a reason and stick with it.
You've been saying for years now how it's all because of Milosevic and his genocidal ways and now you're saying you've been plotting this for 100 years. Milosevic must be a vampire because there is no other way he was around that long.
27 other EU states says Legal binding document with Kosovo to be signed before Serbia is considered to join EU? (Which means recognition) 1. state says Serbia only with Kosovo as its region can join the EU? I think the EU should make up their mind. Britain done a good thing. NO EU. I think this will be the best choice.
Kosovo as much as Catalonia, Scotland, Ireland, Basques are 'mistakes" that EU did at the expenses on same nations and she had to face them.
Spain more than any other country has problems with Basques and Catalans....
Spain soon or latter will 'face' Catalans and even Basques and all we know that.
(Joni, 1 February 2018 11:53)
No Spain will not have to deal with any of it since the EU now recognizes that Catalonia or basques would only be a terrible financial burden on EU funds like Kosovo.
As far as Kosovo being given to Serbia, I hate to tell you that Albanians never had it to start off with. Anything Albanians did was to work for the Turks and somehow you have stretched it to owning Kosovo. As I have said before to claim something you need proof and there is not even a toothpick found in that region that says it Albanian. You guys claim your Ilyrians but no evidence to substantiate such a claim, not even a cave painting.
@Chitown:
'raping children' is what you wrote, not me. That makes you the sick one.
But I'm glad that my 'deal' sounded idiotic to you. I agree, as it is as idiotic as your 'deal' where you suggest that Kosovo - where Serbia murdered thousands of children and elderly, burned whole villages, systematically raped thousands of women, expelled more than one million people, for which Serbia is world famous - would agree to have some failed and/or dictator states decide whether or not Kosovo should have divorced from the genocidal terror sponsored by the Serbian state. And that _after_ it got its independence recognized by the absolute majority of the democratic world.
MY PROBLEM IS NOT WITH SPAIN OR SERBIA BUT WITH KOSOVA THAT DON'T WANT TO UNITE WITH ALBANIA, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE WILL FALL. LETS HAVE REFERENDUM OPEN THE BORDERS AND LIKE GERMANY UNITE. THIS WILL END THE CONVERSETION . BUT KOSOVA POLITICIANS WANT TO BE IN POWER AND KEEP ALBANIANS DIVIDED. WE CAN DO IT VERY EASY JUST GO FOR REFERENDUM AND UNITE .BETTER STRONGER 5.5 MILLION ALBANIANS IN NATO AND IF SOMEBODY DON'T LIKE TO BAD.THEY DID'T LIKE KOSOVA INDIPENDENT NOW THEY GOING TO GET UNITED STATES OF ALBANIA.
(ari, 1 February 2018 13:31)
@ ari - one problem, silly...Albanians in Albania want NOTHING to do with you!
Why would they want that burden in their house?
Albania proper has aspirations for EU too, ya know...
I knew this in November from a big meeting in Brussels.
I didn’t now that it was official.
Anyway, I have tried to explain and explain and explain here on B92 to the Albanians that the Kosovo saga as an own state is more than over.
I don’t care anymore about to try to counter with any answers because it’s like hitting the head against a wall.
Seven more EU countries are either hesitating or have said no as well for your information.
Stay on track Serbia, you get more and more support every month, especially after the Specialist Chamber fuzz.
Stay tuned for more information when I have time.
Again, foreign governments proving they are bigger Serbs than the gov't in Belgrade. Spain is taking a hard line, while Vucic talks about "compromise", which because he is being so vague, can be understood as capitulation. That must never be allowed!
Spain is a major European power. Along with the other EU nations who refuse to recognise the illegal Albanian usurpation of Kosovo-Metohija, she represents an immovable barrier to 'Kosovan' legitimacy on the international stage. No amount of bribery or bullying by the US/UK/Berlin axis will change that fact. Ever. And the situation in Catalonia has only served to harden attitudes in Madrid. The quicker the Albanian mafia in Pristina and Tirana realise the only way forward is meaningful negotiations with Belgrade the better. The alternative is a diplomatic stand off that will last forever. And in the meantime Albanian administered 'Kosova' rots.
Listen terrorists. No eu without a deal. No one wants to live with these criminals anyway. Everyone hates you except Elliot Engel. Go and cry to him
Suck it up and behave like a human for a change.
And here comes the chorus of Albanian denialism saying none of this will happen because Spain is one country out of 27. Obviously they forgot so was the Netherlands which held up Serbia's EU hopes for years until all wanted war criminals were caught. Then there's tiny little Greece who holds up Macedonia's hopes for the EU and NATO.
But somehow Albanians get a pass, right? Nope! And no amount of shouting, posturing, or screaming in caps will change that.
Game Over guys. Unrecognized statelets don't get in :)
War? What war? There will be no war...at least not with Serbia! BG made that clear...
(Watcher..)
Well Watcher, tell that to your leaders. They seem to love get their hands on 'Kosovo burden' so much that they'd go to war for it. Don't take my word for it, look for yourself.
Here, from your beloved religious leader:
I think think the only way to make a dent on the issue of KiM is to have the EU and UN have a secret ballot - but, supervised by representatives from all the countries to ensure a fair vote. This way, no country has to fear retribution from the US/UK/West and they can vote their true opinion without being bullied. This would have to happen without warning and would need to be voted on immediately to work - this way you don't give the West a chance to influence the vote and further their agenda. What say yee my Albo compatriots? Deal?!?!
As for us Albanians from Albania that don't want our brothers in Kosovo like some serbs here say.. you have no clue at all dear neigbors. Stop pretending that you know our feelings because you don't. All the Albanians in Albania have always seen the Albaians living outside our border as part of our country and NATION. We would take Kosovo with us if we could at any moment , at any cost. Don't foul yourself.
As for Spain, well what can we say , thank you Spain for discovering AMERICA. We don't need you help anymore, you have done enough for us. I personally love Spain and all here in Albania love Spain. Beautiful country and very good people especially the catalans of Barcelona. The most polite and decente people i have ever met. Adio muchachos. See you in Spain this summer. hahah ;)
(from Albania, 1 February 2018 17:05)
@ from Albania - HELLOOOO... Albanians from Albania DON'T WANT YOU!! They think you're Gypsy's...EVERY Albanian I work with thinks s**t of you albs in "kosova"...why can't you comprehend that! There is no "pretending"...what gain do I have of "pretending"... "troublemakers" is the word they used..
Chitown, it's like someone would ask you:
'how about I marry your daughter, rape and miss treat her every day until she decides to divorce me, and then we gather my friends and her friends and ask them vote if she should come back.
Deal?'
(Me an myself, 1 February 2018 18:05)
Did you come up with this idiotic response on your own, or did Azir coach you? How do you get from "let's have a secret vote" to "raping children" is beyond my comprehension; however, looking at who posted the remark, I can see that Albanians can't get the thought of raping children out of there system. I'll just assume you're one of the regular Albo trolls on here that's afraid of getting lambasted for their stupidity, so you decided to take on another alias, AGAIN...
It looks like EU in fighting could delay Serbia even if it meets all the requirements. It looks like maybe just Montenegro in 2025.
(Mark.W, 1 February 2018 22:32)
@ markie - sure, that’s what it looks like, 😂 win-win for BG!
take canada and quebec for example. canada says its an internal issue (hmm, i do believe jugoslavia said the same thing), where as quebec will argue that there is a freedom of choice precident. the world will make their decisions as to what they think, and canada or quebec be damned when the world decides to (a) recognize quebec's declarations, or (b) recognizes canada's territorial integrity.
(iron knee, 1 February 2018 22:30)
——
In approximately 30 years, when the US starts running out of domestic oil and the dry western US states starve for water, the disintegration of Canada will be completed. By this time, the US will have increased their covert support of the diverse separatists that include the strong right in Alberta, leftist francophones in Quebec, and Inuit in the north. The plans for Canada’s material wealth have already been written.
likely not far off in your assessment. the writing has been on the wall where canada is concerned for a number of decades now.
and just think, canada is america's number 1 trading partner, best socio-economic friend, their cultures are closer than any other two neighboring cultures, and america has not one hesitation to tear apart its best friend. i wonder what all the other, so-called friends, momentary allies, and politically convenient acquaintances will think might happen to them when america wants, or no longer cares.
@watcher:
So Albania doesn't want "Kosovo burden" and somehow Serbia is willing to go to war for the same "burden".
The idiocy.
(1+1=2, 1 February 2018 16:49)
@ 1+1=2 - War? What war? There will be no war...at least not with Serbia! BG made that clear...that is what the negotiating is for..if you want war, then I'm sure KFOR / NATO will oblige you...you will do what THEY tell you to do, not Serbia...have you even been reading the news lately?
Spain is a true friend of Serbia and many more will soon jump on the band wagon. However, the EU will not even exist in 2025, So lets not waist energy with them. Build economic partnerships with countries throughout the world. Forming a PAN ORTHODOX BALKAN CONFEDERATION is the way to go.
What does Spain have to hide by blocking Kosovo
or gain?
(Sam, 2 February 2018 03:41)
===…==
Maybe they just don't like you.
(Peggy, 5 February 2018 02:23)
What that doesnt make sense Peggy sue?
anyway...
you dont get it do you?
Spain isnt interested in Kosovo or Serbia
it about its own regions
after Spain gets some assurances
and the EU family is back talking
it will be businesses as usual
Your a great ally España!!!!!
As for our Serbian Province Kosovo* you are a complete embarrassment to Europe.
Stick with Belgrade and you just might move on up and go places.
Lol. Hahaha.
they don’t want a full blown war
(Kosovo is gone......, 1 February 2018 16:18)
——
You fail to comprehend the strategy of the US/NATO military industrial complex. It’s not whether war will be started in the Balkans, but more realistically the question for the US politburo is “When?”.
(iron knee, 2 February 2018 17:08)
(Victory1812, 2 February 2018 11:02)
The US has a more pressing issue to deal with than what will happen in 30 years’ time. If it gets any further out of control, there may not be a US to talk about.
The US has a debt to GDP ratio of 420%. Government debt is $24 trillion plus, which includes Federal, state and local government. It equates to 128% of GDP with the balanced being household and corporate debt.
Its unfunded liabilities range anywhere from $100 trillion to $250 trillion depending the criteria used. It has a $19 trillion economy, but US Treasury has created (printed) $12 trillion to stimulate a stagnant economy, which has miserably failed, and the money is still on the books. This is a bloated economy. Every penny must be accounted for and every penny must be repaid. The US government is paying a huge amount of interest on this debt and they are still borrowing more.
After the 2008 GFC, the US citizens were first using savings to maintain a certain level of living standard and when savings were depleted debt was next. Today most Americans have no savings. About 75% of fulltime workers live from pay-day to pay-day.
If you take comfort from Trump causing the stock market to rise, don’t since its already overpriced and sooner or later there must be a correction. On the front that wages have risen in the US, they haven’t at all since it has been over 30 years since the US worker has had a proper wage rise.
I think you're interpreting things to fit your narrative.
take canada and quebec for example. canada says its an internal issue (hmm, i do believe jugoslavia said the same thing), where as quebec will argue that there is a freedom of choice precident. the world will make their decisions as to what they think, and canada or quebec be damned when the world decides to (a) recognize quebec's declarations, or (b) recognizes canada's territorial integrity.
thats it. thats all it is.
its up to everyone else (as canada has shown, by not allowing other countries to same graciousness it is demanding (it is an internal issue)), not canada or quebec.
regarding spain and serbia's positions. spain has made the stance that it wished to uphold territorial integrity. it is thus up to serbia to decide where that territory lies, what its willing to do. if serbia accepts kosovo outside of its borders, spain has said it will respect serbia's decision (it is an internal matter to them, as is the catalan issue).
so not sure where the bullet to the foot is coming from.
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