EU "will not allow us to join without solved border issues"

Why would Serbia give up Kosovo for something that is going to collapse in a few years?
If Vucic government does it then they have to be tried for treason.
Give up our holy Kosovo for a pie in the sky.

That was put together in a couple of days on toilet paper by idiots. That is how good it is you know what to do with it or maybe Serbs don't use toilet paper.
(Lenard, 23 January 2018 10:27)

Lenny I know God is with Croats and your pedophile priests. As soon as Kolinder left Bosnia, Bosniaks started kicking out more Croats LOL. Then we have Cavic begging Serbs to save them.

I know what he is saying. Clearly he is laying down the foundations of a referendum to be put to Serbs when the time comes.

It will be a question whether Serbs are willing to give away Kosovo and possibly join the EU or say bon voyage to the EU. If the EU thinks it can put pressure on Serbia then Belgrade will ask the people and you don't have to be a genius to work out which way the vote would go.

Then watch the Brussels' back-flips, somersaults and twists.

Mark w

Six countries trying to get away from serbia? Slovenia was allowed by yugoslavia to leave. You have after that muslim groups and croats being offered the moon by the west to seceed and create a coubtry of their own. You have montenegro that split with a minority vote. Your speaking with a huge lack of knowledge. Reading a book will never tell you the whole story of yugoslavia, you need to talk to people who lived it. You are making it very black and white and it is anything but that.

I find it amusing that you think Serbia so important to the EU. If it was, the EU countries would be applying to join Serbia. ( Look back to the 1990’s and you will see that there were 6 nations trying to get away from Serbia )
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 21:40)

It’s very hard to show why Serbia is important to the EU to someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

Let’s make it clear. Serbia was more than happy to rid itself of all those hangers on. But it’s funny how Slovenia is coming closer to Serbia realising that reality is a harsh mother. All Serbia wants is what is hers and nothing else. It’s more than happy to see Ustashaland go on its own and sink. In fact, its slowly disappearing where even opposition members of Croat parliament are saying in 2017, 60,000 Croats have left permanently. In last couple of years, the total is 260,000.

Let’s try and explain why Serbia is very important. Istanbul to Berlin by road via Serbia 3 days, around Serbia its 7 days. For the last 2 thousand years and earlier every army, trade caravans etc travelling east to west or in reverse have had to pass using a road near the city of Jagodina. If you still don’t understand let me know.

Azir exists only in the mind of one insipid troll Danilo Jurisich, a Serb.

He created Azir, his imaginary evil Albanian friend, to exaggerate and offend.

Make-believe Azir is not his only bogus nationalistic companion here.

This sadistic troll derives pleasure by promoting inter-ethnic hatred on B92.

Why give away your heart to join a club like EU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiQigKNrBQk

LOL! The EU is well known to cave in once the pressure is on. It allowed Croatia and Cyprus to join with unresolved borders and sure, it may be saying no more but when Russia steps in and starts bringing Serbia even closer, the EU will have second thoughts.

It's quite simple my dear Albanians, you guys want into the EU much much more than Serbs and you are maybe ten or twenty years behind so no Serbia in EU means you have absolutely no chance.

Why would Serbia give up Kosovo for something that is going to collapse in a few years?
If Vucic government does it then they have to be tried for treason.
(Peggy, 23 January 2018 12:48)

Don't worry, dear, that won't happen because Vucic government can't give away something that is not in its possession.

Just curious about the EU hypocrisy here. The unresolved border issues did not seem to be a problem when Croatia was allowed to join the EU, but now it will apply these rules for Serbia. Maybe this should hold true for Spain, since they now have a border issue with Catalonia. Serbia deserves entry into the EU.

The important thing here is finally a mention of a referendum. It is something that should of came way back when the previous regime talked of "EU has no alternative".

For me, the answer is obvious. I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU because simply put, you cease to exist as a country if you support the unilateral independence of a part of your own territory.

Try to build bridges to the Albanian majority in Kosovo-Metohija always, but no country will ever see any peace, prosperity or happiness by allowing itself to be dismembered. Only more conflict, poverty and misery.

"We have a difficult problem of nobody wanting to take anything onto themselves. Toma (Tomislav) Nikolic and myself, and even (Vojislav) Seselj were not against it, we supported the passing of the Constitution in 2006, although we (the Serb Radicals) were the opposition, but we had a state-making approach. These (opposition parties) today will not discuss the Constitution or any serious topic, because they don't know what to say," he said, and added that "it goes something like this": It goes like this the three stooges mentioned and a constitution. That was put together in a couple of days on toilet paper by idiots. That is how good it is you know what to do with it or maybe Serbs don't use toilet paper.

There is no border issue according to UNSCR1244 and EU countries such as Spain and Greece among others.

Simply put Serbia need to make a deal with Albanians recognize Kosova make peace with Albanians and join EU and prosper,or fight for something that is lost forever and stay behind.Serbia has better industries then Albanians if they make deal they will dominate Kosova economicaly. They don't need to have it occupied with their army but with their products they can they are doing it now. Serbia sells 400 million Euros yearly to Kosova plus more in Albania. Serbs have to make decision war or peace.

So much for Serb’s frozen conflict theory....

Ignorant Slav serbs must defrost and attempt to utilize brain by reconciliation with recognizing the reality of Kosova’s Independence.

EU doesn’t want serb BS on its doorstep and neither does anyone else...

The sooner serbs wake up the better for them and all the neighbors will be.

Neither will be Kosovo then. 5 EU countries have not recognized Kosovo.
The same btw. applies to Ukraine and Georgia. They also have border disputes. Funny that Croatia and Slovenia were allowed to join then because they still have a ongoing border dispute. And simmering below the surface, they are other countries in Europe as well with border disputes.

Serbia must recognise Kosovo,....it’s a must ,...do yo understand.
Reason why to day north of Mitrovica have tansion with Kosovo Government and have become heaven for Serbian Criminals,...becouse Serbia refuses to recognise Kosovo.
Europe doesn’t want a country who there aim it’s war.

Peggy the hypocrite:

What happened to your heart when you abandoned your paradise Serbia for Australia??

And don’t blame us since you are a heartless woman....

@ChiTown

Serbia’s main export partners are Italy, Germany, BiH, Romania and then Russia with 5%.
The Chinese don’t buy from Serbia they just sell their products there and take the money back home.
Russia is the only country from your list that supports Serbia for strategic reason the others are economic self interest, nothing else.

You say that it is leverage, are your willing to risk the next generations economic future on it?
Then again living in Chicago you will be financially OK but you are willing to sentence those who stayed behind in Serbia to poverty and an uncertain future.

Lets face it countries don’t join the EU because they love their rules and regulations but, for access to its market. (Or pay like Norway and Switzerland )
Do you honestly believe that Serbian products can complete on the world stage on price and quality and bring prosperity to its people without being in a trading block like the EU?
That is what you will be turning your back on.

I find it amusing that you think Serbia so important to the EU. If it was, the EU countries would be applying to join Serbia. ( Look back to the 1990’s and you will see that there were 6 nations trying to get away from Serbia )

Serbia deserves entry into the EU.
(Alan Schackman, 23 January 2018 20:18)
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No it doesn't. No country deserves to belong to a club which is a dictatorship. You see, when you have people who are not elected and can't be removed from their posts you have a dictatorship which EU is.
It's time for EU to disappear and let European countries have their own ELECTED governments.

About Albanians it must be disputed if we are Thraco-Illyrian but never that we are REFUGIES like you are.
(Joni, 23 January 2018 16:30)

What a load of BS. There is no archaeological evidence to support your claim whatsoever. There is not even a fossilized toothpick or cave painting to point to Albanians. Try using some other more reputable sources of information not Wikipedia since that is most crap and not even a first grader would use it for any projects.

NO E.U. vucic we are serbians we don't fit in the E.U. stay nutral don't give up Kosovo

Serbia must recognise Kosovo,....it’s a must ,...do yo understand.

(Djelli.Art, 23 January 2018 13:05)


NO WE DON'T ... PLEASE EXPLAIN US WHY !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztY91dJjZPI

Peggy, 23 January 2018 12:48)

It’s not yours to begin with .
It’s about setting your self free or staying stuck with the same bs back and forth. Kosova it’s independent!!!

The time of sitting on 2 chairs has come to an end.

It is now up to Vucic to to either use all of his political capital and power to sign the border deal with Kosovo or put it to a national referendum?

Vucic being the wimp will surely put it to a referendum which will fail and isolate Serbia for years to come. The Serb nationalists, clergy and Russian trolls will claim victory then live in poverty and corruption for another generation.

The EU will then give Serbia a taste of the consequences of their vote like the British are getting from Brexit with trade negotiations. At the same time the EU will shower Montenegro with investments and try to boost their economy to show the Serbs what could have been. Macedonia and Albania will then be put in line for EU aid and development.

Lets watch and see how my analysis play out. I bet I am pretty close.

"They are not stronger than us, nor are some others”
It’s not like Albanians are fighting against Serbia’s development – Serbs are themselves doing that. Maybe he should have said “they are not smarter the us” …... but maybe they are ….

EU - THANK YOU!
Finally is time to tell to Serbs the truth.
Serbs you are not EUROPEANS!
We let you in - and we did wrong.

NOW GET OF OF EUROPE - YOU ARE REFUGIES.
Sign a petition to get these INVADERS OUT of Balkan.

God know who kicked you out - but now i understand why they kicked you out in VI century..
You are a disturbing nation.
In every century just troubles. Is something wrong in your DNA - your have disturbing genes.

@ joni

For the 10th time serbs are indigenous to these lands, albanians are not! Serbs did not arrive from some other place like albanians. Albanians come from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).

So stop writing lies every day, stop the trolling give it up man go get a real job go clean public toilets.

forgot to mention .... joni is sister to azir and their tata is danilo jurisich.

@ joni

For the 10th time serbs are indigenous to these lands, albanians are not! Serbs did not arrive from some other place like albanians. Albanians come from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).

So stop writing lies every day, stop the trolling give it up man go get a real job go clean public toilets.
(Ratko, 23 January 2018 16:02)

Hahahahahaaaaaaa! Ask a Greek, or Hungarian...or elese what he learn at school about Serbs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_hypotheses_of_the_Serbs

About Albanians it must be disputed if we are Thraco-Illyrian but never that we are REFUGIES like you are.

@ joni

joni wikipedia is fake information just like you. Everyday you write genocidal rants against serbia and anything serbian, disinformation, lies and so on. You are a really sick internet troll.

joni you are fake news

Serbs are indigenous to these lands, albanians are not end of story. Albanians originate from mountains around black sea.

Is better now ‘dear”moderator?
@sj
Besides The Phoenicians/ Greeks/ Romans/ Egyptians/ Maya… There are not known other ancient civilization. That doesn’t mean that there didn’t live other people right?
In these empires were different people and different languages.
If you will learn something about ancient civilisation you will see that there were not states but ‘ city – states’, and they identify theirselves by the name of the city.
You are asking to me a cave painting ?
I ask to you a single cave painting… I mean haw many million of Slavic people exist in Europe and still were not able to have a single ‘point’ on ancient history?
Where are SLAVIC traces on ancient history sj? I’m not asking Serbian one but all of Slavs. SOOOOOOOOO ???
What you gived to ancient history sj? Are you proud of you language ? Of your alphabet ? You copied it – you didn’t made it by yourselves, it is not Serbian made – so what you have to be proud of…
It is a Greeco / Bulgarian alphabet (sorry if i’m wrong ), as i know Cyrill was Greek, right ? So what elese could you show to me sj ?
We lived for centuries with Greeks and Italians but we have our language/ our Alphabet so we have to be proud of – is authenthic and unique.
Roman created a big empire – but could you tell to me their nationality ?
They were Italians/ Spanish, or else…. ?? Could you ?

You are free to show to me an ancient evidence of Slavs - how many millions are you in total sj, and 0 ancient evidences?

Basically he’s saying a whole bunch of nothing lol

Peggy the hypocrite: What happened to your heart when you abandoned your paradise Serbia for Australia?? And don’t blame us since you are a heartless woman..(Azir, 23. januar 2018 13:16) -----------other people have caught on to you danilo jurisich.lol!!!!a canadian serb no one liked when you lived here.pretending to be albanian and then you call peggy a hypocrite.good on peggy for always making you mad.dobar dan danilo jurisich/azir/avni/mildred green on and on.

Slav Serb Vucic publicly declared his home sick for Ukraine 🇺🇦 mountain caves.

Serbs please go home 🏠.

You don’t belong on indigenous lands of indigenous Albanians .

What did you think? Serbs are funny sometimes, they believe their own lies. If EU allowed anybody to join its ranks then it wouldn't exist until now. They made a big mistake by allowing Cyprus (half of it).

I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

That option is not on the table, dear.
(icj1, 24 January 2018 01:28)

Of course not. The UN and UNSCR 1244 reaffirm KiM as an integral part of Serbian territory.

So we'll never join AND our demographics will become 25% North African. Good stuff!

@joni,
you bring up hungarians to discuss indiegonousness of groups in balkans?
thats pretty impressively rich, even for your illogical standards.

the hungarians, or huns as their ancestors were known as, were also known to have migrated to that region from mongolia.
how many times have you run into an atilla that wasn't hungarian or mogolian?
but consider the greeks, lets do. ask them what they have to say about albanians?
afterall, it is the greeks which are the indigenous peoples of the balkans.

the kingdom of albania had to invent a king. odd how that came to be for a peoples that have supposedly been there since (forever) the days the earth was cooling and dinos roamed freely.

Just did a word search for "recogni-" in the comments and no surprise it came from the usual dense Albo dingdongs who still think that reaching an agreement with a breakaway entity founded by separatists about to be indicted for war crimes means "recognition".

NOTHING implies recognition any of these statements. It never did and it never will :)

Lets watch and see how my analysis play out. I bet I am pretty close.
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 18:14)

Little Marky Mark! You obviously haven't been following things too closely. Serbia is looking to the East - China,Japan, Russia, Turkey, etc,,, Why do you think this is? Hmmm, maybe because he's creating a little leverage for himself when it comes to dealing with the EU. He needs to hold his ground and the EU and West will give in because they're trying to keep this influence out of the Balkans. Let's see whose scenario plays out here. I'll check back in a few month.

Serbia is in a race, a race to the bottom with Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Bosnia. Forget the EU and join Russia.

he just let the cat out of the bag, about time wasn't it ?

I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

That option is not on the table, dear. Serbia's options are:

A. Join the EU without Kosovo
B. Remain outside the EU without Kosovo

Amn. Yugo,
If you read UNSCR 1244 you will find stated the Albanians of Kosovo will, after three years, get to choose sovereignty if they so decide. Somehow, I think you've read 1244 completely yet conveniently decided to delete it from your memory.
(Mildred Green, 24 January 2018 15:02)

@ Mildew green - maybe, but with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija, especially not after Srbs have been ethnically cleansed for KiM.
Take a hike, sweetie...that's a non-starter

"And do you know all the things we gained and the time and peace bought with the Brussels agreement," he said.

No. We actually don't. We know that Albanians got a phone code for Kosovo, for example. What did Serbs get? Autonomy in the North?

We bought peace by signing?
Were they going to bomb us again if we don't sign?
If so, say it openly, so that people know who we are dealing with.

The Serbs have one of the worst Leaders in Modern Times.. Tell the EU no then No deal go the other way.. Man the world is laughing at Serbia over the current Leadership. A modern day Sissy what more can I say. Serbia was there longer then the EU it survived. It can without the EU as well. Also it wont let a nation join with border issues. Ok so Bosnia cannot join Croatia should not be a part of it because it has issues with Serbian Krajina it should be a province or state within Croatia. Oh yes Slovenia and Croatia have border issues.. why are they the EU? Kosovo is not a nation per the UN so it cannot join and Macedonia is as fake as it gets.Come on Vucic be a MAN stop lieing to your people to your blood.

EU double standards making up decisions as they go. Serbia is on the correct path leaning more towards its real friends China & Russia. At least they respect and Serbia's territoral integrity. The EU is a sinking ship and will most certainly break apart within the next few years.

The time of sitting on 2 chairs has come to an end.

It is now up to Vucic to to either use all of his political capital and power to sign the border deal with Kosovo or put it to a national referendum?

Vucic being the wimp will surely put it to a referendum which will fail and isolate Serbia for years to come. The Serb nationalists, clergy and Russian trolls will claim victory then live in poverty and corruption for another generation.

The EU will then give Serbia a taste of the consequences of their vote like the British are getting from Brexit with trade negotiations. At the same time the EU will shower Montenegro with investments and try to boost their economy to show the Serbs what could have been. Macedonia and Albania will then be put in line for EU aid and development.

Lets watch and see how my analysis play out. I bet I am pretty close.
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 18:14)

@ marki w - LOL, that's too funny, dude! In your wet dream, this is how it plays out...Don't get all butthurt because Srbija's in the drivers seat!
Montenegro? They're half Russian!...why would they do something stupid like that?

A referendum is a good idea. It makes it easier for Vucic to conserve his political capital, no matter how it goes. It will also make it clear where the population of Serbia stands in this issue. The question is how will the referendum question be phrased. Will it be some nonsense along what Vuk "over my dead body" Jeremic came up with for the ICJ? Or will it be something grounded in reality?

Considering the Kostunica-written constitution in Serbia, the Constitutional court of Serbia should also give its judgment about the referendum question before it is held. Hopefully Vucic will have thought of that.

Another question is the time in which the referendum will be held. How far along the EU path will Serbia be at the time?

Mark.W, 23 January 2018 21:40

Sorry to busy your bubble, but I'm not from Serbia. Without this said, Serbia has to create a some sort of leverage and/or competitive atmosphere to overcome the onslaught of pre-requisites to join the EU - but, only Serbia's feet a held to the fire while allowing others to join with border disputes and other issues. At this time, I agree that Serbia might not be an ideal global trading partner, but i think your missing the point. The countries I mentioned are looking at direct investment, not necessarily just trade. If you understand the benefits of direct foreign investment, you'll better comprehend the idea that going East doesn't hurt, but helps Serbia. I don't believe I need to get into details for relatively simple economics, so you and icj can google "benefits of foreign investment" and figure it out on your own.

Try to build bridges to the Albanian majority in Kosovo-Metohija always, but no country will ever see any peace, prosperity or happiness by allowing itself to be dismembered. Only more conflict, poverty and misery.
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

Maybe Serbia should has never declared independence from Ottoman Empire.

Anyway Czech Republic, Slovenia, Montenegro and US are doing fine.

The world got fed up wity your Criminality. Remember 78 beautiful days and nights of NATO aerial gift đŸ’ đŸŽ deposits raining ☔ down on you ha ha.(Azir, 24. januar 2018 02:36) --------------canadian serb danilo jurisic pretending to be azir the albanian.the little trool lives on b92 to spread hate.

I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

That option is not on the table, dear.
(icj1, 24 January 2018 01:28)

Of course not. The UN and UNSCR 1244 reaffirm KiM as an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2018 13:46)


Amn. Yugo,
If you read UNSCR 1244 you will find stated the Albanians of Kosovo will, after three years, get to choose sovereignty if they so decide. Somehow, I think you've read 1244 completely yet conveniently decided to delete it from your memory.

The world got fed up wity your Criminality. Remember 78 beautiful days and nights of NATO aerial gift đź’ť đźŽ(randomfun, 24. januar 2018 14:04) wonder who is copying my name name to spread hate on b92.hehehehheh!!!!

Serbia deserves entry into the EU.
(Alan Schackman, 23 January 2018 20:18)



Alan,
Not before Serbia recognizes the Republic of Kosova, followed by a Truth and Reconciliation commission much like what South Africa and the Nazis had to undergo after WWII. Only then can we consider any possibility of allowing Serbia in the EU.

Montenegro? They're half Russian!...why would they do something stupid like that?
(Watcher, 23 January 2018 20:09)


Watcher aka sj,
Precisely because they are half Russian!

Another question is the time in which the referendum will be held. How far along the EU path will Serbia be at the time?
(Reader, 23 January 2018 20:14)

A better question where is Referendum being held?

Will Kosovo citizens be voting in this referendum, well I know they wont as they Albanins there feel independent but I would say they should add their vote automatic to Yes vote.

Serbia wants to force people to live there is not going to happen, vs in Kosovo Serbs are living and only north with 38K citizens are some trouble.

Serbia will never ever want Kosovo back, they want Kosovo empty north with Albanians period. You can not keep Albanins obressed like in 1990s and be part of EU.

If you like to see what Serbs think read b92 serbski ( if you dont speak Serbian hit translate)

https://telegrafi.com/dalin-pergjimet-e-politikaneve-serbe-pas-vrasjes-se-ivanoviqit-ata-permendin-emra-video/

Listen this video

I find it amusing that you think Serbia so important to the EU. If it was, the EU countries would be applying to join Serbia. ( Look back to the 1990’s and you will see that there were 6 nations trying to get away from Serbia )
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 21:40)

Mark, I just saw an article here on B92 regarding Japan's visit to Serbia. Take a look at it, might shed some light on what I mentioned earlier.

Ari Gold:

Greater Serbia 🇷🇸 Campaign of Terror allowed itself to be disqualified from Yugoslavia Federation membership...

Serbia attacked four former members-
Slovenia 🇸🇮
Croatia 🇭🇷
Bosnia 🇧🇦 and
Kosova 🇽🇰

NATO bombed some sense into your thick skulls.

Please explain to us how all that serb aggression benefited you other than looting , theft of pensions, bank deposits,currency devaluation,etc....

Serbia started and lost many wars ..

Losers don’t make the rules.

Kosova you occupied and because of your
Genocide
Crimes against Humanity and
War Crimes

The International Community decides your can’t control or continue your policy of aggression,violence on civilians and total death and destruction .

The world got fed up with your Criminality.

Remember 78 beautiful days and nights of NATO aerial gift 💝 🎁 deposits raining ☔ down on you ha ha.

@Ian


I am aware of what happened there.

I was first sent there in 1991 after the barricades went up and was a witness to the first wave of expulsions supported by the JNA. I did talk to the average people on both sides of the conflict. I had many a cup of coffee and breathed in lots of second hand smoke while I listened and observed what was going on.
I watched how the Serbs first expelled the Croatians then how they expelled the Bosnian muslims then I watch karma take place and the Serbs face the same fate they gave the Croatians and Bosnians during Oluja.
I do admit I was not there when the Kosovo conflict started but I did follow it.

(Joni, 24 January 2018 12:53)

Let us not digress from the topic you raised with your nonsensical ramblings. I have never made any claims about Serbs being indigenous to the region, but I have read ad nauseum claims by Albos that their ancestors have been in that region for thousands of years.

Migration does not happen overnight, and every expert will tell you it occurs over a couple of hundreds of years and the same has happened with the Serbs, but the largest migration of Serbs into the Balkans took place between the 5 and 6 centuries. Evidence? Go to any university in Europe/US and it’s there. They have hundreds of books about early Europe.

Yes, Cyrillic is based on Greek, but the Greeks also took on certain aspects of Egyptian culture then they in turn gave many things to the Romans and today our justice system is based on Roman laws etc. So, what is your point?

“About Albanians it must be disputed if we are Thraco-Illyrian but never that we are REFUGIES like you are. “

As I read it you claim that the only mystery is whether Albos descended from Thracians or Illyrians or both. Now show me the evidence to support that claim.

with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija
(Watcher, 24 January 2018 17:42)

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...

No biggie since States aren't in EU n never been better. With good organization Serbia as well doesn't need to be in EU especially since history is best teacher. Throughout the history Serbia was damaged more than enough in Turkey federation, Austria-Hungarian federation, German federation and Yugoslavian federation. Moesia doesn't exist anymore just because was part of the Roman empire federation.

your serbian politicians know very well whats going on on this world.
albanians are protected by US Jews who control the United States of America and all media!
they know whery well what will happen to serbia if they want some conflict.
you donot belive my? search some videos on youtube about jewish senators and members of congress.only type albania jews on youtube and you will understand what i mean this has something to do with world war 2 and albania.all serbs and albanians think usa bombed you in 1999 NO NO jews bombed you.

For me, the answer is obvious. I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU because simply put, you cease to exist as a country if you support the unilateral independence of a part of your own territory.

(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

I am not sure it is Obvious to you that you do not control Kosovo and there is nothing to chose as the game here is North (half a city and 2 villages).

Today there is a goal to push for some solution where these 120-150K Serbs have full rights and decide on their day to day without some Veto as RS has above the changes to the constitution which is already in it. Serbs rights are so brought in Kosovo constitution that Serbia would never give Albanians same rights to stay in Serbia.

If let's say North goes to Serbia those places will empty in weeks as moment they stop free money from Serbia to Serbs they will move to Beograd.

Vucic is a Nationalist wrapt in progressive suit he would love to get Kosovo back but knows the reality, we can stay here all day talking we do this and you do that and Russia and USA... reality is Serbia either will get the north and move on or something as part of ZSO.

Every year people born in Kosovo do not get it what Serbia is talking as they are born and raise in another country.

The EU accession process changes per applicant. When I did research on Serbia's accessing process, I mostly found that Kosovo recognition was not to be a factor in the decision to proceed forward with the accessing process. It's hard to determine exactly what the final word will be since it tends to change. One thing to note is that each EU member has veto power. Bilateral issues between Serbia and Croatia tend to be more of an issue for Serbian accession such as certain rights and representation for Croats in Serbia. A colleague of mine also focused on the EU accession process for Turkey. in her research she found that Serbia was the closest current candidate to becoming the next EU member where turkey was the least even though its been in the accessing process for more time then any other country. Amoung the populace from major EU states, there's a larger support base for Serbian accession than other current applicants, even though more people would rather not have Serbia in the EU than would like to see in (yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/turkey-less-popular-choice-join-eu-even-russia/). Serbia still has some improvements to make in order to become a full member. At this point, many wonder if the sacrifice and wait is worth the membership.

Try using some other more reputable sources of information not Wikipedia since that is most crap and not even a first grader would use it for any projects.
(sj, 24 January 2018 09:02)


Sj,
Yet you have used Wikipedia to back up some of your more outrageous claims.

Good,(What happened to the Gallant Vitez Serbs) You don't need to be in bed with Islamic Republic of EU. Wake-Up, follow in the path of your own just heritage of what real Serbia was, not the Serbia of liberal demented followers. Review your historical past, answers you seek are written and you shall see that the EU is not the way to go. EU is dead.

@Ian


No need to read a book. I am aware of what happened there.

I was first sent there in 1991 after the barricades went up and was a witness to the first wave of expulsions supported by the JNA. I did talk to the average people on both sides of the conflict. I had many a cup of coffee and breathed in lots of second hand smoke while I listened and observed what was going on.
I watched how the Serbs first expelled the Croatians then how they expelled the Bosnian muslims then I watch karma take place and the Serbs face the same fate they gave the Croatians and Bosnians during Oluja.
I do admit I was not there when the Kosovo conflict started but I did follow it.

My comments come from first hand knowledge as well as research.

Sj,
Yet you have used Wikipedia to back up some of your more outrageous claims.
(Mildred Green, 24 January 2018 14:48)

Wrong as usual. Perhaps I should re name you Wrong Way Milly. I don’t use Wikipedia simply because its inaccurate and some information are downright lies. It’s your Albos that use it to prove your Illyrian/Thracian heritage LOL.

Unless literacy is an issue with you perhaps you should read UNSCR 1244 a little more closely about that referendum and who can carry it out. Last time I looked it wasn’t just the Albos alone but all of Serbia, which includes Kosovo.

But I am interested to know which outrageous claims have I made?

JONI Besides The Phoenicians/ Greeks/ Romans/ Egyptians/ Maya… There are not known other ancient civilization. That doesn’t mean that there didn’t live other people right? In these empires were different people and different languages.

I CAN TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT OTHER CIVILIZATIONS BUT THEY EXISTED IN OTHER TIMES AND PLACES. ALSO SAME PEOPLES HAD OTHER NAMES IN OTHER PLACES. LIKE ALANS ALSO KNOWN AS SCYTHIANS, SCOTTISH, MAMELUKES, BASCONS, CATHALANS, ALBANIANS, BALKANS ECT.

My comments come from first hand knowledge as well as research.
(Mark.W, 24 January 2018 22:45)
===========================
You were everywhere except Kosovo.
In what capacity? Which areas specifically were you in?

If you read UNSCR 1244 you will find stated the Albanians of Kosovo will, after three years, get to choose sovereignty if they so decide.
(Mildred Green, 24 January 2018 15:02)
----

Performed a text search of UNSCR1244.
Results:
1. No where does the resolution refer to "Albanians of Kosovo".
As a matter of fact, the word "Albanian" only appeared in this statement:
"Kosovo Albanian groups end all offensive action and comply with requirements for demilitarization".

2. The word sovereignty appeared in this statement: "Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia."

Thank you Milly for asking about these terms in UNSCR 1244.
Do you have the need for other any other words to be accurately verified?

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...
(icj1, 25 January 2018 15:29)

——

Of course. Russia as a member state of the UN and a permanent member of the UNSC upholds UNSCR1244 and has reaffirmed that KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed :)
(icj1, 28 January 2018 14:25)
——

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
We are more appreciative of the UN and UNSC “deeds” that have been documented in resolutions and that have Russia and the UN Member States reaffirm KiM as an integral part of Serbian territory.

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed
(icj1, 28 January 2018 14:25)

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 29 January 2018 10:06)

I don't have any “deed” on B92, dear, so I agree that I, and most likely everybody else, don't care about a “deed” that does not exist. You might want to join everybody else, too lol
(icj1, 29 January 2018 18:35)
——

Yes, we long ago all agreed that deeds such as icj1’s writings, replies, and commentaries on B92 are unimportant, irrelevant and nonsensical drivel. We do, however, enjoy exposing icj1’s self-incriminating nonsense.

Dear enemies of the EU,
if you want to pay your debts in Renminbi or Rubel - go ahead!
And have a nice summer break on the beautiful coasts of Crimea.
But your heart belongs to Kosovo...

mister vucic will do the right thing and recognise kosovo fully this year. he is speaking the truth and the reality on the ground. kosovo is lost people. with kosovo we have a good trade and exchange. lets not be stupid

Mark w
And yet you manage to have a fairy tale recollection. The reason the jna ever went to croatia was because krajina was being cleansed of serbs by croats. In bosnia muslim militants were attacking the serb villages in a land grab, jna was summoned. Both croats and muslims were encouraged heavily by the west to nake a land grab and they were promised recognition of these new borders by the west. This is actually in now declassified documents. How you managed to be there and see something completely different is mind blowing. Maybe you worked for cnn?

Russia as a member state of the UN and a permanent member of the UNSC upholds UNSCR1244 and has reaffirmed that KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2018 12:34)

Great that we are in agreement on this one :)
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:38)

—-

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.

Yes, we long ago all agreed that deeds such as icj1’s writings, replies, and commentaries on B92 are unimportant, irrelevant and nonsensical drivel. We do, however, enjoy exposing icj1’s self-incriminating nonsense.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 30 January 2018 01:50)

Great... Congratulations for finally joining everybody else! :)
(icj1, 31 January 2018 14:04)

—-

Along with everyone else, we do in deed, share great pleasure in continually exposing icj1’s self-incriminating nonsense.

"A better question where is Referendum being held?
Will Kosovo citizens be voting in this referendum"

Well Alo Alo, we all know the answer to that question. No, the Albanian citizens of Kosovo will not be voting in that referendum because it does not concern them :). Vucic will also not offer to the Albanian citizens of Kosovo to vote because he knows the vote does not concern them. It is an internal question for Serbia proper. It would be absurd to ask Albanians what Serbia should do. It would be like, say, getting the Bulgarians living in Bulgaria to vote in a referendum about France's issues, say, hijabs in public places in France.

with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija
(Watcher, 24 January 2018 17:42)

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...
(icj1, 25 January 2018 15:29)

Of course.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2018 12:34)

Great that we are in agreement on this one :)

with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija
(Watcher, 24 January 2018 17:42)

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...
(icj1, 25 January 2018 15:29)

Of course.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2018 12:34)

Great that we are in agreement on this one :)
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:38)

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed :)

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 29 January 2018 10:06)

I don't have any “deed” on B92, dear, so I agree that I, and most likely everybody else, don't care about a “deed” that does not exist. You might want to join everybody else, too lol

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed
(icj1, 28 January 2018 14:25)

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 29 January 2018 10:06)

I don't have any “deed” on B92, dear, so I agree that I, and most likely everybody else, don't care about a “deed” that does not exist. You might want to join everybody else, too lol
(icj1, 29 January 2018 18:35)

Yes
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 30 January 2018 01:50)

Great... Congratulations for finally joining everybody else! :)

So much for Serb’s frozen conflict theory....

Ignorant Slav serbs must defrost and attempt to utilize brain by reconciliation with recognizing the reality of Kosova’s Independence.

EU doesn’t want serb BS on its doorstep and neither does anyone else...

The sooner serbs wake up the better for them and all the neighbors will be.

Peggy the hypocrite:

What happened to your heart when you abandoned your paradise Serbia for Australia??

And don’t blame us since you are a heartless woman....

Peggy, 23 January 2018 12:48)

It’s not yours to begin with .
It’s about setting your self free or staying stuck with the same bs back and forth. Kosova it’s independent!!!

EU - THANK YOU!
Finally is time to tell to Serbs the truth.
Serbs you are not EUROPEANS!
We let you in - and we did wrong.

NOW GET OF OF EUROPE - YOU ARE REFUGIES.
Sign a petition to get these INVADERS OUT of Balkan.

God know who kicked you out - but now i understand why they kicked you out in VI century..
You are a disturbing nation.
In every century just troubles. Is something wrong in your DNA - your have disturbing genes.

Slav Serb Vucic publicly declared his home sick for Ukraine 🇺🇦 mountain caves.

Serbs please go home 🏠.

You don’t belong on indigenous lands of indigenous Albanians .

Why would Serbia give up Kosovo for something that is going to collapse in a few years?
If Vucic government does it then they have to be tried for treason.
Give up our holy Kosovo for a pie in the sky.

@ joni

For the 10th time serbs are indigenous to these lands, albanians are not! Serbs did not arrive from some other place like albanians. Albanians come from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).

So stop writing lies every day, stop the trolling give it up man go get a real job go clean public toilets.

Serbia must recognise Kosovo,....it’s a must ,...do yo understand.
Reason why to day north of Mitrovica have tansion with Kosovo Government and have become heaven for Serbian Criminals,...becouse Serbia refuses to recognise Kosovo.
Europe doesn’t want a country who there aim it’s war.

Why would Serbia give up Kosovo for something that is going to collapse in a few years?
If Vucic government does it then they have to be tried for treason.
(Peggy, 23 January 2018 12:48)

Don't worry, dear, that won't happen because Vucic government can't give away something that is not in its possession.

I know what he is saying. Clearly he is laying down the foundations of a referendum to be put to Serbs when the time comes.

It will be a question whether Serbs are willing to give away Kosovo and possibly join the EU or say bon voyage to the EU. If the EU thinks it can put pressure on Serbia then Belgrade will ask the people and you don't have to be a genius to work out which way the vote would go.

Then watch the Brussels' back-flips, somersaults and twists.

Simply put Serbia need to make a deal with Albanians recognize Kosova make peace with Albanians and join EU and prosper,or fight for something that is lost forever and stay behind.Serbia has better industries then Albanians if they make deal they will dominate Kosova economicaly. They don't need to have it occupied with their army but with their products they can they are doing it now. Serbia sells 400 million Euros yearly to Kosova plus more in Albania. Serbs have to make decision war or peace.

Why give away your heart to join a club like EU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiQigKNrBQk

LOL! The EU is well known to cave in once the pressure is on. It allowed Croatia and Cyprus to join with unresolved borders and sure, it may be saying no more but when Russia steps in and starts bringing Serbia even closer, the EU will have second thoughts.

It's quite simple my dear Albanians, you guys want into the EU much much more than Serbs and you are maybe ten or twenty years behind so no Serbia in EU means you have absolutely no chance.

@ joni

joni wikipedia is fake information just like you. Everyday you write genocidal rants against serbia and anything serbian, disinformation, lies and so on. You are a really sick internet troll.

joni you are fake news

Serbs are indigenous to these lands, albanians are not end of story. Albanians originate from mountains around black sea.

The time of sitting on 2 chairs has come to an end.

It is now up to Vucic to to either use all of his political capital and power to sign the border deal with Kosovo or put it to a national referendum?

Vucic being the wimp will surely put it to a referendum which will fail and isolate Serbia for years to come. The Serb nationalists, clergy and Russian trolls will claim victory then live in poverty and corruption for another generation.

The EU will then give Serbia a taste of the consequences of their vote like the British are getting from Brexit with trade negotiations. At the same time the EU will shower Montenegro with investments and try to boost their economy to show the Serbs what could have been. Macedonia and Albania will then be put in line for EU aid and development.

Lets watch and see how my analysis play out. I bet I am pretty close.
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 18:14)

@ marki w - LOL, that's too funny, dude! In your wet dream, this is how it plays out...Don't get all butthurt because Srbija's in the drivers seat!
Montenegro? They're half Russian!...why would they do something stupid like that?

Ari Gold:

Greater Serbia 🇷🇸 Campaign of Terror allowed itself to be disqualified from Yugoslavia Federation membership...

Serbia attacked four former members-
Slovenia 🇸🇮
Croatia 🇭🇷
Bosnia 🇧🇦 and
Kosova 🇽🇰

NATO bombed some sense into your thick skulls.

Please explain to us how all that serb aggression benefited you other than looting , theft of pensions, bank deposits,currency devaluation,etc....

Serbia started and lost many wars ..

Losers don’t make the rules.

Kosova you occupied and because of your
Genocide
Crimes against Humanity and
War Crimes

The International Community decides your can’t control or continue your policy of aggression,violence on civilians and total death and destruction .

The world got fed up with your Criminality.

Remember 78 beautiful days and nights of NATO aerial gift 💝 🎁 deposits raining ☔ down on you ha ha.

"We have a difficult problem of nobody wanting to take anything onto themselves. Toma (Tomislav) Nikolic and myself, and even (Vojislav) Seselj were not against it, we supported the passing of the Constitution in 2006, although we (the Serb Radicals) were the opposition, but we had a state-making approach. These (opposition parties) today will not discuss the Constitution or any serious topic, because they don't know what to say," he said, and added that "it goes something like this": It goes like this the three stooges mentioned and a constitution. That was put together in a couple of days on toilet paper by idiots. That is how good it is you know what to do with it or maybe Serbs don't use toilet paper.

There is no border issue according to UNSCR1244 and EU countries such as Spain and Greece among others.

Peggy the hypocrite: What happened to your heart when you abandoned your paradise Serbia for Australia?? And don’t blame us since you are a heartless woman..(Azir, 23. januar 2018 13:16) -----------other people have caught on to you danilo jurisich.lol!!!!a canadian serb no one liked when you lived here.pretending to be albanian and then you call peggy a hypocrite.good on peggy for always making you mad.dobar dan danilo jurisich/azir/avni/mildred green on and on.

Just did a word search for "recogni-" in the comments and no surprise it came from the usual dense Albo dingdongs who still think that reaching an agreement with a breakaway entity founded by separatists about to be indicted for war crimes means "recognition".

NOTHING implies recognition any of these statements. It never did and it never will :)

The important thing here is finally a mention of a referendum. It is something that should of came way back when the previous regime talked of "EU has no alternative".

For me, the answer is obvious. I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU because simply put, you cease to exist as a country if you support the unilateral independence of a part of your own territory.

Try to build bridges to the Albanian majority in Kosovo-Metohija always, but no country will ever see any peace, prosperity or happiness by allowing itself to be dismembered. Only more conflict, poverty and misery.

"They are not stronger than us, nor are some others”
It’s not like Albanians are fighting against Serbia’s development – Serbs are themselves doing that. Maybe he should have said “they are not smarter the us” …... but maybe they are ….

That was put together in a couple of days on toilet paper by idiots. That is how good it is you know what to do with it or maybe Serbs don't use toilet paper.
(Lenard, 23 January 2018 10:27)

Lenny I know God is with Croats and your pedophile priests. As soon as Kolinder left Bosnia, Bosniaks started kicking out more Croats LOL. Then we have Cavic begging Serbs to save them.

Lets watch and see how my analysis play out. I bet I am pretty close.
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 18:14)

Little Marky Mark! You obviously haven't been following things too closely. Serbia is looking to the East - China,Japan, Russia, Turkey, etc,,, Why do you think this is? Hmmm, maybe because he's creating a little leverage for himself when it comes to dealing with the EU. He needs to hold his ground and the EU and West will give in because they're trying to keep this influence out of the Balkans. Let's see whose scenario plays out here. I'll check back in a few month.

Just curious about the EU hypocrisy here. The unresolved border issues did not seem to be a problem when Croatia was allowed to join the EU, but now it will apply these rules for Serbia. Maybe this should hold true for Spain, since they now have a border issue with Catalonia. Serbia deserves entry into the EU.

Neither will be Kosovo then. 5 EU countries have not recognized Kosovo.
The same btw. applies to Ukraine and Georgia. They also have border disputes. Funny that Croatia and Slovenia were allowed to join then because they still have a ongoing border dispute. And simmering below the surface, they are other countries in Europe as well with border disputes.

Azir exists only in the mind of one insipid troll Danilo Jurisich, a Serb.

He created Azir, his imaginary evil Albanian friend, to exaggerate and offend.

Make-believe Azir is not his only bogus nationalistic companion here.

This sadistic troll derives pleasure by promoting inter-ethnic hatred on B92.

forgot to mention .... joni is sister to azir and their tata is danilo jurisich.

@ joni

For the 10th time serbs are indigenous to these lands, albanians are not! Serbs did not arrive from some other place like albanians. Albanians come from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).

So stop writing lies every day, stop the trolling give it up man go get a real job go clean public toilets.
(Ratko, 23 January 2018 16:02)

Hahahahahaaaaaaa! Ask a Greek, or Hungarian...or elese what he learn at school about Serbs?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_hypotheses_of_the_Serbs

About Albanians it must be disputed if we are Thraco-Illyrian but never that we are REFUGIES like you are.

@joni,
you bring up hungarians to discuss indiegonousness of groups in balkans?
thats pretty impressively rich, even for your illogical standards.

the hungarians, or huns as their ancestors were known as, were also known to have migrated to that region from mongolia.
how many times have you run into an atilla that wasn't hungarian or mogolian?
but consider the greeks, lets do. ask them what they have to say about albanians?
afterall, it is the greeks which are the indigenous peoples of the balkans.

the kingdom of albania had to invent a king. odd how that came to be for a peoples that have supposedly been there since (forever) the days the earth was cooling and dinos roamed freely.

The time of sitting on 2 chairs has come to an end.

It is now up to Vucic to to either use all of his political capital and power to sign the border deal with Kosovo or put it to a national referendum?

Vucic being the wimp will surely put it to a referendum which will fail and isolate Serbia for years to come. The Serb nationalists, clergy and Russian trolls will claim victory then live in poverty and corruption for another generation.

The EU will then give Serbia a taste of the consequences of their vote like the British are getting from Brexit with trade negotiations. At the same time the EU will shower Montenegro with investments and try to boost their economy to show the Serbs what could have been. Macedonia and Albania will then be put in line for EU aid and development.

Lets watch and see how my analysis play out. I bet I am pretty close.

I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

That option is not on the table, dear. Serbia's options are:

A. Join the EU without Kosovo
B. Remain outside the EU without Kosovo

I find it amusing that you think Serbia so important to the EU. If it was, the EU countries would be applying to join Serbia. ( Look back to the 1990’s and you will see that there were 6 nations trying to get away from Serbia )
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 21:40)

It’s very hard to show why Serbia is important to the EU to someone who has no idea what they are talking about.

Let’s make it clear. Serbia was more than happy to rid itself of all those hangers on. But it’s funny how Slovenia is coming closer to Serbia realising that reality is a harsh mother. All Serbia wants is what is hers and nothing else. It’s more than happy to see Ustashaland go on its own and sink. In fact, its slowly disappearing where even opposition members of Croat parliament are saying in 2017, 60,000 Croats have left permanently. In last couple of years, the total is 260,000.

Let’s try and explain why Serbia is very important. Istanbul to Berlin by road via Serbia 3 days, around Serbia its 7 days. For the last 2 thousand years and earlier every army, trade caravans etc travelling east to west or in reverse have had to pass using a road near the city of Jagodina. If you still don’t understand let me know.

Is better now ‘dear”moderator?
@sj
Besides The Phoenicians/ Greeks/ Romans/ Egyptians/ Maya… There are not known other ancient civilization. That doesn’t mean that there didn’t live other people right?
In these empires were different people and different languages.
If you will learn something about ancient civilisation you will see that there were not states but ‘ city – states’, and they identify theirselves by the name of the city.
You are asking to me a cave painting ?
I ask to you a single cave painting… I mean haw many million of Slavic people exist in Europe and still were not able to have a single ‘point’ on ancient history?
Where are SLAVIC traces on ancient history sj? I’m not asking Serbian one but all of Slavs. SOOOOOOOOO ???
What you gived to ancient history sj? Are you proud of you language ? Of your alphabet ? You copied it – you didn’t made it by yourselves, it is not Serbian made – so what you have to be proud of…
It is a Greeco / Bulgarian alphabet (sorry if i’m wrong ), as i know Cyrill was Greek, right ? So what elese could you show to me sj ?
We lived for centuries with Greeks and Italians but we have our language/ our Alphabet so we have to be proud of – is authenthic and unique.
Roman created a big empire – but could you tell to me their nationality ?
They were Italians/ Spanish, or else…. ?? Could you ?

You are free to show to me an ancient evidence of Slavs - how many millions are you in total sj, and 0 ancient evidences?

The world got fed up wity your Criminality. Remember 78 beautiful days and nights of NATO aerial gift đŸ’ đŸŽ deposits raining ☔ down on you ha ha.(Azir, 24. januar 2018 02:36) --------------canadian serb danilo jurisic pretending to be azir the albanian.the little trool lives on b92 to spread hate.

Try using some other more reputable sources of information not Wikipedia since that is most crap and not even a first grader would use it for any projects.
(sj, 24 January 2018 09:02)


Sj,
Yet you have used Wikipedia to back up some of your more outrageous claims.

NO E.U. vucic we are serbians we don't fit in the E.U. stay nutral don't give up Kosovo

Serbia must recognise Kosovo,....it’s a must ,...do yo understand.

(Djelli.Art, 23 January 2018 13:05)


NO WE DON'T ... PLEASE EXPLAIN US WHY !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztY91dJjZPI

What did you think? Serbs are funny sometimes, they believe their own lies. If EU allowed anybody to join its ranks then it wouldn't exist until now. They made a big mistake by allowing Cyprus (half of it).

Try to build bridges to the Albanian majority in Kosovo-Metohija always, but no country will ever see any peace, prosperity or happiness by allowing itself to be dismembered. Only more conflict, poverty and misery.
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

Maybe Serbia should has never declared independence from Ottoman Empire.

Anyway Czech Republic, Slovenia, Montenegro and US are doing fine.

I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

That option is not on the table, dear.
(icj1, 24 January 2018 01:28)

Of course not. The UN and UNSCR 1244 reaffirm KiM as an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 January 2018 13:46)


Amn. Yugo,
If you read UNSCR 1244 you will find stated the Albanians of Kosovo will, after three years, get to choose sovereignty if they so decide. Somehow, I think you've read 1244 completely yet conveniently decided to delete it from your memory.

Basically he’s saying a whole bunch of nothing lol

No biggie since States aren't in EU n never been better. With good organization Serbia as well doesn't need to be in EU especially since history is best teacher. Throughout the history Serbia was damaged more than enough in Turkey federation, Austria-Hungarian federation, German federation and Yugoslavian federation. Moesia doesn't exist anymore just because was part of the Roman empire federation.

@ChiTown

Serbia’s main export partners are Italy, Germany, BiH, Romania and then Russia with 5%.
The Chinese don’t buy from Serbia they just sell their products there and take the money back home.
Russia is the only country from your list that supports Serbia for strategic reason the others are economic self interest, nothing else.

You say that it is leverage, are your willing to risk the next generations economic future on it?
Then again living in Chicago you will be financially OK but you are willing to sentence those who stayed behind in Serbia to poverty and an uncertain future.

Lets face it countries don’t join the EU because they love their rules and regulations but, for access to its market. (Or pay like Norway and Switzerland )
Do you honestly believe that Serbian products can complete on the world stage on price and quality and bring prosperity to its people without being in a trading block like the EU?
That is what you will be turning your back on.

I find it amusing that you think Serbia so important to the EU. If it was, the EU countries would be applying to join Serbia. ( Look back to the 1990’s and you will see that there were 6 nations trying to get away from Serbia )

Mark w

Six countries trying to get away from serbia? Slovenia was allowed by yugoslavia to leave. You have after that muslim groups and croats being offered the moon by the west to seceed and create a coubtry of their own. You have montenegro that split with a minority vote. Your speaking with a huge lack of knowledge. Reading a book will never tell you the whole story of yugoslavia, you need to talk to people who lived it. You are making it very black and white and it is anything but that.

About Albanians it must be disputed if we are Thraco-Illyrian but never that we are REFUGIES like you are.
(Joni, 23 January 2018 16:30)

What a load of BS. There is no archaeological evidence to support your claim whatsoever. There is not even a fossilized toothpick or cave painting to point to Albanians. Try using some other more reputable sources of information not Wikipedia since that is most crap and not even a first grader would use it for any projects.

The world got fed up wity your Criminality. Remember 78 beautiful days and nights of NATO aerial gift đź’ť đźŽ(randomfun, 24. januar 2018 14:04) wonder who is copying my name name to spread hate on b92.hehehehheh!!!!

"A better question where is Referendum being held?
Will Kosovo citizens be voting in this referendum"

Well Alo Alo, we all know the answer to that question. No, the Albanian citizens of Kosovo will not be voting in that referendum because it does not concern them :). Vucic will also not offer to the Albanian citizens of Kosovo to vote because he knows the vote does not concern them. It is an internal question for Serbia proper. It would be absurd to ask Albanians what Serbia should do. It would be like, say, getting the Bulgarians living in Bulgaria to vote in a referendum about France's issues, say, hijabs in public places in France.

"And do you know all the things we gained and the time and peace bought with the Brussels agreement," he said.

No. We actually don't. We know that Albanians got a phone code for Kosovo, for example. What did Serbs get? Autonomy in the North?

We bought peace by signing?
Were they going to bomb us again if we don't sign?
If so, say it openly, so that people know who we are dealing with.

A referendum is a good idea. It makes it easier for Vucic to conserve his political capital, no matter how it goes. It will also make it clear where the population of Serbia stands in this issue. The question is how will the referendum question be phrased. Will it be some nonsense along what Vuk "over my dead body" Jeremic came up with for the ICJ? Or will it be something grounded in reality?

Considering the Kostunica-written constitution in Serbia, the Constitutional court of Serbia should also give its judgment about the referendum question before it is held. Hopefully Vucic will have thought of that.

Another question is the time in which the referendum will be held. How far along the EU path will Serbia be at the time?

Serbia is in a race, a race to the bottom with Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Bosnia. Forget the EU and join Russia.

Serbia deserves entry into the EU.
(Alan Schackman, 23 January 2018 20:18)
--------------------
No it doesn't. No country deserves to belong to a club which is a dictatorship. You see, when you have people who are not elected and can't be removed from their posts you have a dictatorship which EU is.
It's time for EU to disappear and let European countries have their own ELECTED governments.

Mark.W, 23 January 2018 21:40

Sorry to busy your bubble, but I'm not from Serbia. Without this said, Serbia has to create a some sort of leverage and/or competitive atmosphere to overcome the onslaught of pre-requisites to join the EU - but, only Serbia's feet a held to the fire while allowing others to join with border disputes and other issues. At this time, I agree that Serbia might not be an ideal global trading partner, but i think your missing the point. The countries I mentioned are looking at direct investment, not necessarily just trade. If you understand the benefits of direct foreign investment, you'll better comprehend the idea that going East doesn't hurt, but helps Serbia. I don't believe I need to get into details for relatively simple economics, so you and icj can google "benefits of foreign investment" and figure it out on your own.

JONI Besides The Phoenicians/ Greeks/ Romans/ Egyptians/ Maya… There are not known other ancient civilization. That doesn’t mean that there didn’t live other people right? In these empires were different people and different languages.

I CAN TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT OTHER CIVILIZATIONS BUT THEY EXISTED IN OTHER TIMES AND PLACES. ALSO SAME PEOPLES HAD OTHER NAMES IN OTHER PLACES. LIKE ALANS ALSO KNOWN AS SCYTHIANS, SCOTTISH, MAMELUKES, BASCONS, CATHALANS, ALBANIANS, BALKANS ECT.

Amn. Yugo,
If you read UNSCR 1244 you will find stated the Albanians of Kosovo will, after three years, get to choose sovereignty if they so decide. Somehow, I think you've read 1244 completely yet conveniently decided to delete it from your memory.
(Mildred Green, 24 January 2018 15:02)

@ Mildew green - maybe, but with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija, especially not after Srbs have been ethnically cleansed for KiM.
Take a hike, sweetie...that's a non-starter

Dear enemies of the EU,
if you want to pay your debts in Renminbi or Rubel - go ahead!
And have a nice summer break on the beautiful coasts of Crimea.
But your heart belongs to Kosovo...

If you read UNSCR 1244 you will find stated the Albanians of Kosovo will, after three years, get to choose sovereignty if they so decide.
(Mildred Green, 24 January 2018 15:02)
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Performed a text search of UNSCR1244.
Results:
1. No where does the resolution refer to "Albanians of Kosovo".
As a matter of fact, the word "Albanian" only appeared in this statement:
"Kosovo Albanian groups end all offensive action and comply with requirements for demilitarization".

2. The word sovereignty appeared in this statement: "Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia."

Thank you Milly for asking about these terms in UNSCR 1244.
Do you have the need for other any other words to be accurately verified?

he just let the cat out of the bag, about time wasn't it ?

Serbia deserves entry into the EU.
(Alan Schackman, 23 January 2018 20:18)



Alan,
Not before Serbia recognizes the Republic of Kosova, followed by a Truth and Reconciliation commission much like what South Africa and the Nazis had to undergo after WWII. Only then can we consider any possibility of allowing Serbia in the EU.

Montenegro? They're half Russian!...why would they do something stupid like that?
(Watcher, 23 January 2018 20:09)


Watcher aka sj,
Precisely because they are half Russian!

your serbian politicians know very well whats going on on this world.
albanians are protected by US Jews who control the United States of America and all media!
they know whery well what will happen to serbia if they want some conflict.
you donot belive my? search some videos on youtube about jewish senators and members of congress.only type albania jews on youtube and you will understand what i mean this has something to do with world war 2 and albania.all serbs and albanians think usa bombed you in 1999 NO NO jews bombed you.

I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU
(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

That option is not on the table, dear.
(icj1, 24 January 2018 01:28)

Of course not. The UN and UNSCR 1244 reaffirm KiM as an integral part of Serbian territory.

My comments come from first hand knowledge as well as research.
(Mark.W, 24 January 2018 22:45)
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You were everywhere except Kosovo.
In what capacity? Which areas specifically were you in?

(Joni, 24 January 2018 12:53)

Let us not digress from the topic you raised with your nonsensical ramblings. I have never made any claims about Serbs being indigenous to the region, but I have read ad nauseum claims by Albos that their ancestors have been in that region for thousands of years.

Migration does not happen overnight, and every expert will tell you it occurs over a couple of hundreds of years and the same has happened with the Serbs, but the largest migration of Serbs into the Balkans took place between the 5 and 6 centuries. Evidence? Go to any university in Europe/US and it’s there. They have hundreds of books about early Europe.

Yes, Cyrillic is based on Greek, but the Greeks also took on certain aspects of Egyptian culture then they in turn gave many things to the Romans and today our justice system is based on Roman laws etc. So, what is your point?

“About Albanians it must be disputed if we are Thraco-Illyrian but never that we are REFUGIES like you are. “

As I read it you claim that the only mystery is whether Albos descended from Thracians or Illyrians or both. Now show me the evidence to support that claim.

The Serbs have one of the worst Leaders in Modern Times.. Tell the EU no then No deal go the other way.. Man the world is laughing at Serbia over the current Leadership. A modern day Sissy what more can I say. Serbia was there longer then the EU it survived. It can without the EU as well. Also it wont let a nation join with border issues. Ok so Bosnia cannot join Croatia should not be a part of it because it has issues with Serbian Krajina it should be a province or state within Croatia. Oh yes Slovenia and Croatia have border issues.. why are they the EU? Kosovo is not a nation per the UN so it cannot join and Macedonia is as fake as it gets.Come on Vucic be a MAN stop lieing to your people to your blood.

Another question is the time in which the referendum will be held. How far along the EU path will Serbia be at the time?
(Reader, 23 January 2018 20:14)

A better question where is Referendum being held?

Will Kosovo citizens be voting in this referendum, well I know they wont as they Albanins there feel independent but I would say they should add their vote automatic to Yes vote.

Serbia wants to force people to live there is not going to happen, vs in Kosovo Serbs are living and only north with 38K citizens are some trouble.

Serbia will never ever want Kosovo back, they want Kosovo empty north with Albanians period. You can not keep Albanins obressed like in 1990s and be part of EU.

If you like to see what Serbs think read b92 serbski ( if you dont speak Serbian hit translate)

The EU accession process changes per applicant. When I did research on Serbia's accessing process, I mostly found that Kosovo recognition was not to be a factor in the decision to proceed forward with the accessing process. It's hard to determine exactly what the final word will be since it tends to change. One thing to note is that each EU member has veto power. Bilateral issues between Serbia and Croatia tend to be more of an issue for Serbian accession such as certain rights and representation for Croats in Serbia. A colleague of mine also focused on the EU accession process for Turkey. in her research she found that Serbia was the closest current candidate to becoming the next EU member where turkey was the least even though its been in the accessing process for more time then any other country. Amoung the populace from major EU states, there's a larger support base for Serbian accession than other current applicants, even though more people would rather not have Serbia in the EU than would like to see in (yougov.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/turkey-less-popular-choice-join-eu-even-russia/). Serbia still has some improvements to make in order to become a full member. At this point, many wonder if the sacrifice and wait is worth the membership.

I find it amusing that you think Serbia so important to the EU. If it was, the EU countries would be applying to join Serbia. ( Look back to the 1990’s and you will see that there were 6 nations trying to get away from Serbia )
(Mark.W, 23 January 2018 21:40)

Mark, I just saw an article here on B92 regarding Japan's visit to Serbia. Take a look at it, might shed some light on what I mentioned earlier.

EU double standards making up decisions as they go. Serbia is on the correct path leaning more towards its real friends China & Russia. At least they respect and Serbia's territoral integrity. The EU is a sinking ship and will most certainly break apart within the next few years.

Sj,
Yet you have used Wikipedia to back up some of your more outrageous claims.
(Mildred Green, 24 January 2018 14:48)

Wrong as usual. Perhaps I should re name you Wrong Way Milly. I don’t use Wikipedia simply because its inaccurate and some information are downright lies. It’s your Albos that use it to prove your Illyrian/Thracian heritage LOL.

Unless literacy is an issue with you perhaps you should read UNSCR 1244 a little more closely about that referendum and who can carry it out. Last time I looked it wasn’t just the Albos alone but all of Serbia, which includes Kosovo.

But I am interested to know which outrageous claims have I made?

https://telegrafi.com/dalin-pergjimet-e-politikaneve-serbe-pas-vrasjes-se-ivanoviqit-ata-permendin-emra-video/

Listen this video

with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija
(Watcher, 24 January 2018 17:42)

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...
(icj1, 25 January 2018 15:29)

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Of course. Russia as a member state of the UN and a permanent member of the UNSC upholds UNSCR1244 and has reaffirmed that KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.

So we'll never join AND our demographics will become 25% North African. Good stuff!

For me, the answer is obvious. I will always pick Kosovo-Metohija over the EU because simply put, you cease to exist as a country if you support the unilateral independence of a part of your own territory.

(Ari Gold, 23 January 2018 21:59)

I am not sure it is Obvious to you that you do not control Kosovo and there is nothing to chose as the game here is North (half a city and 2 villages).

Today there is a goal to push for some solution where these 120-150K Serbs have full rights and decide on their day to day without some Veto as RS has above the changes to the constitution which is already in it. Serbs rights are so brought in Kosovo constitution that Serbia would never give Albanians same rights to stay in Serbia.

If let's say North goes to Serbia those places will empty in weeks as moment they stop free money from Serbia to Serbs they will move to Beograd.

Vucic is a Nationalist wrapt in progressive suit he would love to get Kosovo back but knows the reality, we can stay here all day talking we do this and you do that and Russia and USA... reality is Serbia either will get the north and move on or something as part of ZSO.

Every year people born in Kosovo do not get it what Serbia is talking as they are born and raise in another country.

Good,(What happened to the Gallant Vitez Serbs) You don't need to be in bed with Islamic Republic of EU. Wake-Up, follow in the path of your own just heritage of what real Serbia was, not the Serbia of liberal demented followers. Review your historical past, answers you seek are written and you shall see that the EU is not the way to go. EU is dead.

@Ian


No need to read a book. I am aware of what happened there.

I was first sent there in 1991 after the barricades went up and was a witness to the first wave of expulsions supported by the JNA. I did talk to the average people on both sides of the conflict. I had many a cup of coffee and breathed in lots of second hand smoke while I listened and observed what was going on.
I watched how the Serbs first expelled the Croatians then how they expelled the Bosnian muslims then I watch karma take place and the Serbs face the same fate they gave the Croatians and Bosnians during Oluja.
I do admit I was not there when the Kosovo conflict started but I did follow it.

My comments come from first hand knowledge as well as research.

@Ian


I am aware of what happened there.

I was first sent there in 1991 after the barricades went up and was a witness to the first wave of expulsions supported by the JNA. I did talk to the average people on both sides of the conflict. I had many a cup of coffee and breathed in lots of second hand smoke while I listened and observed what was going on.
I watched how the Serbs first expelled the Croatians then how they expelled the Bosnian muslims then I watch karma take place and the Serbs face the same fate they gave the Croatians and Bosnians during Oluja.
I do admit I was not there when the Kosovo conflict started but I did follow it.

mister vucic will do the right thing and recognise kosovo fully this year. he is speaking the truth and the reality on the ground. kosovo is lost people. with kosovo we have a good trade and exchange. lets not be stupid

with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija
(Watcher, 24 January 2018 17:42)

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...
(icj1, 25 January 2018 15:29)

Of course.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2018 12:34)

Great that we are in agreement on this one :)

Mark w
And yet you manage to have a fairy tale recollection. The reason the jna ever went to croatia was because krajina was being cleansed of serbs by croats. In bosnia muslim militants were attacking the serb villages in a land grab, jna was summoned. Both croats and muslims were encouraged heavily by the west to nake a land grab and they were promised recognition of these new borders by the west. This is actually in now declassified documents. How you managed to be there and see something completely different is mind blowing. Maybe you worked for cnn?

Russia as a member state of the UN and a permanent member of the UNSC upholds UNSCR1244 and has reaffirmed that KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2018 12:34)

Great that we are in agreement on this one :)
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:38)

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Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.

with an referendum that asks ALL Srbija whether to allow Kosovo I Metohija independence, not just citizens of Kosovo I Metohija
(Watcher, 24 January 2018 17:42)

Maybe, but unfortunately Russia disagrees with your logic...
(icj1, 25 January 2018 15:29)

Of course.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 January 2018 12:34)

Great that we are in agreement on this one :)
(icj1, 27 January 2018 03:38)

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed :)

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed :)
(icj1, 28 January 2018 14:25)
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icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
We are more appreciative of the UN and UNSC “deeds” that have been documented in resolutions and that have Russia and the UN Member States reaffirm KiM as an integral part of Serbian territory.

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 29 January 2018 10:06)

I don't have any “deed” on B92, dear, so I agree that I, and most likely everybody else, don't care about a “deed” that does not exist. You might want to join everybody else, too lol

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed
(icj1, 28 January 2018 14:25)

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 29 January 2018 10:06)

I don't have any “deed” on B92, dear, so I agree that I, and most likely everybody else, don't care about a “deed” that does not exist. You might want to join everybody else, too lol
(icj1, 29 January 2018 18:35)
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Yes, we long ago all agreed that deeds such as icj1’s writings, replies, and commentaries on B92 are unimportant, irrelevant and nonsensical drivel. We do, however, enjoy exposing icj1’s self-incriminating nonsense.

Yes it is great that you, Russia and the Member States of the UN agree KiM is an integral part of Serbian territory.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 January 2018 13:00)

Yes, indeed
(icj1, 28 January 2018 14:25)

icj1’s “deed” on B92 may be important to icj1, but most likely no one else.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 29 January 2018 10:06)

I don't have any “deed” on B92, dear, so I agree that I, and most likely everybody else, don't care about a “deed” that does not exist. You might want to join everybody else, too lol
(icj1, 29 January 2018 18:35)

Yes
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 30 January 2018 01:50)

Great... Congratulations for finally joining everybody else! :)

Yes, we long ago all agreed that deeds such as icj1’s writings, replies, and commentaries on B92 are unimportant, irrelevant and nonsensical drivel. We do, however, enjoy exposing icj1’s self-incriminating nonsense.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 30 January 2018 01:50)

Great... Congratulations for finally joining everybody else! :)
(icj1, 31 January 2018 14:04)

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Along with everyone else, we do in deed, share great pleasure in continually exposing icj1’s self-incriminating nonsense.