Sam
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Nikola
what about good wishes to everyone everyday not just Serbs
and you dont need Religion to make the point either
Friday, 05.01.2018.
10:34
Serbian Orthodox Church Patriarch Irinej on Thursday issued his message ahead of January 7, when Christmas in celebrated in Serbia.
Izvor: B92
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Nikola
what about good wishes to everyone everyday not just Serbs
and you dont need Religion to make the point either
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SRETNA SLAVA svima ko slave danas!!!
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Next thing you know, ChiTown will be missing a kidney, being sold to rich isreali's...You cannot be trusted.
(Watcher, 8 January 2018 22:12
Watcher, I'm not worried about my kidney, I'm more worried about the organ that hangs between my legs - I think Azir could use this, more for himself, instead of a silly kidney....
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(www, 9 January 2018 11:49)
Milutin Milankovic, Nikola Tesla and Mihajlo Pupin were exceptional figures in history – giants standing on shoulders of humanity. I can name dozens of engineers of Serbian decent that have worked on projects like car, satellite, aircraft and rocket design. Three who worked in the Jet Propulsion Lab in California. A Serb was in charge of the school of Engineering at MIT for 30 years.
It was Victory1999, who said “What have serbs contributed as a diaspora now these days? Nothing. You never hear about any so called "successful serbs" since that is complete oxymoron. “
So if you hide behind racism I suggest you have a nice talk to your fellow Albanian. Victory 1999. Plus, Albanians predominantly work in low paid jobs in the EU. That’s not racism its called fact.
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Sj
Then you have not heard of Wilson Kokalari i suppose? He was an Albanian who migrated to the United states during 1940s from Gjirokastra and later on he became a Nasa engineer who was involved in the Apollo 11 program that hepled to put the first man on the moon in 1969(together with other scientists and engineers). He was on of many Nasa engineers.
Albanians are individuals like every one else and not all of us work with "low paid jobs". That is just racism and ignorance. Not a good trait to have
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@sj, I am only reinforcing what your patriarch Irinej is saying. His mentality is the same as those Muslims you talk about apparently :).
(Reader, 8 January 2018 20:09)
There is a huge difference between your Muslims and what Irinej is saying. Irinej is only talking about one place that belongs to Serbia and that’s Kosovo. He does not lay claim to Italy, Greece or Turkey or any other part of the world. Irinej does not go around trying to convert the world to Serbian Orthodoxy by force.
As I said there is a huge difference between Irinej and the message your Muslims want to deliver.
I thought Nikolle asked the question. So you must be Nikolle.
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(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 14:48)
Well if you have never heard of them I cant help you with your ignorance? Try also googling Milutin Milankovic who was a scientist rated by NASA to be one of 15 greatest minds in history involving earth science. Milankovic was a mathematician who developed a theory on earth climatics pre WW2 and it took until the 1960s to realize what he said was right only after computational calculations were advanced enough to show he was right.
I was born in Australia; my mother is Australian, and my children were born here so why would I move to Serbia? Yes, Serbia is poor but its industrialising again and it will not be poor for long. But the more important question since you were not born in the country you currently live in, why don’t you move back to Kosvoa?
I know that there are many people of different ethnic backgrounds in successful jobs. The last European person I worked with was Polish. However, my first encounter with an Albanian was in Kosovo in 2015.
The only Albanian in a higher educated job I know of in Australia is a university lecturer and there are just over 10,000 Albanians living here.
My little friend time is something Albanians do not have on their side.
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Lol, “Kosovo is Serb Jerusalem”. Serbs have become pathetic and desperate. Kosovo was Illyrian territory, Greko-Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, a small period of Serbian and Bulgarian rule and then Ottoman territory for 500 years. After that it was gifted to Serbia by the great powers after the Balkan wars. Serbian claims over Kosovo are based on some pathetic Serbian attempt to fight the Ottomans which ended with them having their asses kicked and their women subjugated to sexual slavery, while their young boys were made slave soldiers until they were replaced by their Albanian and Bosniak counterparts. You see the land was never yours since you’ve only been in the region for a little over a thousand years, and to compare it to Jerusalem is insulting as the natives are both the majority in Kosovo and Israel. Serbs are more like the Palestinian leeches who want everything around them yet no sane person would recognise their claim.
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Provide your full name and we can make a deal.
(Azir, 8 January 2018 17:58)
@ azire budalo - there are no deals with you! You are a known idiot with IQ as low as my shoelace.
Next thing you know, ChiTown will be missing a kidney, being sold to rich isreali's...You cannot be trusted.
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reader
Your answer shows lack of basic education,you fail to see the necessity and privilege of having a small family and instead you're dumb enough to insinuate what the prophet said"Allah wants more children to be born".Also Muslims want to produce more children to prove their manliness.I would go as far as to clam that all Muslims are brainwashed and have a hidden agenda.Thats to turn the whole world Islamic by increasing the Muslim population and converting non-muslims to Muslims.
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Do you mean like Albanians do and then taking their kids to the German borders or Calais in France and abandon them for somebody else to pick the tub.More than 2ooo Albanian children were abandoned in UK alone.
(andrew, 6 January 2018 15:13)
That is sad if it is true. I don't mean it like that andrew. I mean it like Irinej means it. Make kids, so Irinej's flock does not dwindle further. You too andrew, go back to Serbia and start making kids :). Like Sasa from Jagodina, who at least, is consistent, and who I applaud. Stop wasting time here on B92, and go make kids :). After making them, don't abandon them like "those nasty Albanians" you talk about but give them to Irinej to care about their spiritual righteousness :).
@sj, I am only reinforcing what your patriarch Irinej is saying. His mentality is the same as those Muslims you talk about apparently :).
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Chi town the Budalo:
Why do you fear the TRUTH so much?
You know serbs are dieing out!
Getting rehabilitated is never too late.
Provide your full name and we can make a deal.
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And you have still zero control over Kosovo. Despite that twenty years have passed. Zero control,zero authority,zero influence. Nothing. As impotent as serbian men are. A dying nation with no future and a diaspora that enjoys living off western welfare despite they hate the west. That is truly sad....
(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 12:05)
@ vicki - why is this truly sad? The way you write, you cannot wait for the Srb nation & people to be wiped off the face of this earth! Why so sad, then? Are you being hypocritical?
I understand Srbija cannot ever be the way "thriving" kosova is...with it's ever growing economy and such, but maybe one day, even Srbija can be 'Europes youngest democracy", no? LOL, LOL
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Chi town why keep mentioning my name?
Azire - I keep mentioning it so you leave this forum, and I'll continue to do it until you do. Oh, and all your other aliases as well. Sretna Nova Godina buddy.... Stop being a Budala and I'll stop mentioning you, deal???
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Sj
Never heard of them, and so has not anyone else. You know why? Because they are all beyond irrelevant. Why do you live in Australia? Why dont you all move back to serbia if serbia so rich and well developed?
And there are many ethnicities that have successful jobs elsewhere including Albanians. What makes you special? You are not. Not even close. And there are many Albanians that have successful careers and high paid jobs not mention higher education in diaspora as well. Funny how you try to paint it black and white, while in reality its the opposite. You are not superior in anything i am afraid. Time will come when your delusions will shatter and you will not like how reality actually looks like
(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 14:48)
@ Vicki budalo - lol, YOU challenged sj to who's who in Srb history. You got your panties in a bunch and all butthurt when he TOLD you OUR history with successful Srbs around the world.
That was too funny!
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Sj
Never heard of them, and so has not anyone else. You know why? Because they are all beyond irrelevant. Why do you live in Australia? Why dont you all move back to serbia if serbia so rich and well developed?
And there are many ethnicities that have successful jobs elsewhere including Albanians. What makes you special? You are not. Not even close. And there are many Albanians that have successful careers and high paid jobs not mention higher education in diaspora as well. Funny how you try to paint it black and white, while in reality its the opposite. You are not superior in anything i am afraid. Time will come when your delusions will shatter and you will not like how reality actually looks like
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Victory1999, 8 January 2018 12:05)
You want to know about successful Serbs, just google and there are plenty starting with Mihajlo Pupin, Karl Malden etc. I was born and live in Australia and there are directors, lawyers, bankers, journalists, academics, TV personalities, high ranking military personnel who are Serbs. The director of the emergency department of a major hospital in Sydney who is a Serb.
I have worked in the finance industry for over 30 years in Australia and South-East Asia and have come across Serbs who are now on boards of directors and GMs throughout the world, but I have never come across an Albanian until I went to Kosovo.
As I said despite having 10 to 12 children in Yugoslavia what have Albanians achieved? Nothing except working in low paid jobs. Its quality you need not quantity.
We just leave Kosovo as is and you will all die out. Over half a million have left and more and more leave every day.
Serbs don't live off welfare but your fellow Muslims do.
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sj
"low paid jobs"
More serbian propaganda as usual. How pathetic can you get. Your country is poor and incompetent and so are your kind. What have serbs contributed as a diaspora now these days? Nothing. You never hear about any so called "successful serbs" since that is complete oxymoron.
And you have still zero control over Kosovo. Despite that twenty years have passed. Zero control,zero authority,zero influence. Nothing. As impotent as serbian men are. A dying nation with no future and a diaspora that enjoys living off western welfare despite they hate the west. That is truly sad....
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She is not albanian, she is a gypsy from Albania. Nice Propaganda, though. Btw Kosovo is Albanian. Always has been always will be. Its albanian territory,albanian property, and albanian land. You kind belong in the siberian lowlands.
Get out from OUR Kosovo. Albanians will always fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them.
(Victory1999, 7 January 2018 18:55)
You have lost over 500,000 from Kosovo and give ti a couple of more years there will be none and the best part is Serbia will not have to life a finger LOL.
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Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
(Reader, 5 January 2018 21:26)
Well both secular and religious laws make it illegal to marry more than one woman. Since I am already married any further marriage would be classified as bigamy, unless you are a Muslim.
The issue of increasing the population is actually very easy to address and that requires the right government policy which I understand is being worked on now.
There is this mentality amongst Muslims that believe if you have enough children they will somehow rule the world. In the past, Albanians in Yugoslavia had 10 or 12 children and what are they ruling today? Only low paid jobs throughout Europe and US.
The secret to ruling is quality not quantity. You can switch off quantity like you turn off water at a tap by reducing food supply. Numbers disappear so does the problem.
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sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 12:44)
All Irenej is saying is what Jerusalem is to Jews, Kosovo is to Serbs. All religious leaders use the same style of language referencing God and gifts from God so if you read the text of the Pope’s messages you will see the speech couched in same terminology.
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What great news on Christmas Day, they arrested one of the organ traffickers after a 10 year man hunt. He worked from the clinic in Kosovo and came from Israel. Hopefully the trial will shed light on the rest of the organ trafficking Albanians who turned our holy sacred place into a ghetto of drugs and human organ trafficking.
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This has all the attributes of a "Call for a Holy War", well here we go again, its always a serb thing.
As for some of the comments down, folks (serbs) you are trying to build a strong identity where I believe since 1830's, your experiment is failing slowly but surely. History of the serbs??? O better saying a history of a free herd of ottoman remains.
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This guy is so stupid Kosova is Serbia. Kosova is gone 20 Years ago you can say all you want Kosovo is Serbia. But reality Kosova will never ever be pat of Serbia again ever. You serbs keep making your self happy and telling lies to other Serbs all you want.
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Trizio
She is not albanian, she is a gypsy from Albania. Nice Propaganda, though. Btw Kosovo is Albanian. Always has been always will be. Its albanian territory,albanian property, and albanian land. You kind belong in the siberian lowlands.
Get out from OUR Kosovo. Albanians will always fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them.
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Hristos se Rodi !!!
Today Serbian Ancient Holy Land Kosovo occupied by Islamic terrorist who are supported, funded and armed by the USA, England and Germany ! Our Serbian ancestors many centuries ago founded and established the Eastern Orthodox Christian faith upon the Balkans within the Sacred Heart of Srpsko Veliko Sveto Kosovo and paid dearly with their sweat, blood and tears many times over and over ! Hilly Billy Clinton, Tony Blair and Hitler hold no title to Ancient Serbian territories and properties, no one has the right to steal and take away Serbian lands and give away to bandits, Kosovo was and will always remain within the deepest depth within our humble and pure Serbian hearts ! The measure of strength or power, mortal man proposes but in the end Divine God disposes ! Today when we celebrate Divine God we must remember and never forget our Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters who are currently suffering in their ancient home lands of Sveto Kosovo and Srpska Krajina under the occupation of evil, wicked and sadistic Islamic terrorist and Nazi Ustase ! Land and Liberty, Love your Mother Earth Serbian people, Better we die with dignity and grace standing then perish like slaves on our knees. Bolje Grob Nego Rob !!!
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“Moesia Serb “ you’re drinking again!
Slav Serbs originated outside the Balkans.
Although you continue to occupy Bulgarian 🇧🇬 land your roots are elsewhere.
Your own historians might be able to educate you.
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therefore Serbs aren't Slavs. Moesia Superior changed name into Serbia after gained independence from Bulgaria which changed name from Moesia Inferior into Bulgaria. When Serbs existed under its name the word Slavs didn't exist. During the Moesia(Mysia) existence Albania was in the Northeast Asia.
(Moesian Serb, 7 January 2018 11:40)
WHY NOT TAKE A DAY OUT AND STOP THIS BS?
THIS ONE DAY - PLEASE !
IN RETURN I'LL EDUCATE YOU A BIT.
PS
MENTIONED IN QURAN
*** MOHAMMAD RASUL-UL-ULLAH 4 TIMES
*** ISA THE PROPHET 27 TIMES
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Azir, Ancient Serbs or The Moesi was a tribe which inhabited present day Northern Bulgaria and Serbia, which inhabited Moesia (Mysia) therefore Serbs aren't Slavs. Moesia Superior changed name into Serbia after gained independence from Bulgaria which changed name from Moesia Inferior into Bulgaria. When Serbs existed under its name the word Slavs didn't exist. During the Moesia(Mysia) existence Albania was in the Northeast Asia.
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Albo trolls, probably out desecrating some graveyards today and shooting some innocent people because of the guns being fired for the badnjak. Today in the blic paper was an article on a woman from Albania who married a Serb and celebrates Christmas Eve and Christmas in peace. Why can’t you be like her and recognize the birthplace of Serbian orthodoxy instead of trying to steal it to traffic heroin?
Merry Christmas all... except the trolls (aka the evil the Bible mentions)
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Irinej I searched the bible nowhere dose it say Kosovo is the holy land or Jerusalem. Then again you feed Serbs wicked delusions. That Serbs are heavenly people but sadly earthly no good. People like you lead people directly to hell. They will see you in hell Irinej and all lies will end. Reality will take over for all eternity. Mat 23:15
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Priests, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
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"members of true European civilization".
The hypocrisy of this man knows no limits.
Theologically according to Orthodox Church European Civilisation is heretic, since Catholic and Protestant Church are considered heretics.
Historically Orthodox Churches hated European Civilisation members. The very name Eastern Orthodox Church is to distinguish it from the Europeans. They iven invented an alphabet only to distance themselves from Europeans. During Ottoman Empire invasion Orthodox Churches were most of the time obedient servants to the Sultan. Even today Orthodox Churches have better relationship with Muslims than they have with Catholics, nevermind the Protestants.
And someone reminds this "Holy" hypocrite that it was the members of true European Civilisation that bombed the fascist regime of Milosevic when he was committing a genocide and an ethical cleansing in "Holy Jerusalem" Kosovo.
Maybe he should apologise to Kosovo for what Serbia did to Kosovo people before claiming the membership in the "true European Civilisation".
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Be a real man!
(Azir, 6 January 2018 19:44
It's Rehan buddy. Look up the meaning....
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Chi town why keep mentioning my name?
Don’t you notice I am ignoring stupidity?
You make no sense .
Please don’t be a coward and use your real name.I guarantee your safety...
You would have absolutely nothing to worry about.....
Be a real man!
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That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17
Hey Azir, I love that a girl has to stick up for you!!! Pretty typical for Albo men I guess. Not only can ice pop out 12 kids, but she can stick up for her man as well.
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That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
Here's me being icj!!! "I know you are, but what am I". Her best comments are restating your post in question form - way to think for yourself ice, and Azir...
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If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
defending the likes of Azir (an individual who glorifies what happened at the Jasenovac death camp) tells us all we need to know
(njegos, 6 January 2018 16:20)
I did you write anything about any "Azir", dear. That is just a dream that you experienced during the night and now you are confusing it with reality!
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And BTW, how would icj1 know anything about Azir's ancestors?
(njegos, 6 January 2018 16:20)
Same way that our dear friend ChiTown knows lol
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If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
ChiTown was responding to Azir the Coward above and icj1 the Serb-Hater came to Azir's defense. icj1 has distinguished herself as a deceitful lying and fraudulent individual countless times on this forum, but defending the likes of Azir (an individual who glorifies what happened at the Jasenovac death camp) tells us all we need to know about Serb-Hating icj1. You know what they say, you are the company you keep. icj1 and Azir, two peas in a pod.
And BTW, how would icj1 know anything about Azir's ancestors? Maybe the Serb-Hater can answer that question for us, but I doubt it. Cowards like her run away.
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start making kids.
reader
Do you mean like Albanians do and then taking their kids to the German borders or Calais in France and abandon them for somebody else to pick the tub.More than 2ooo Albanian children were abandoned in UK alone.
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If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
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but since you've "read" the Bible, what does it say about Stealing? Like Land that belongs to others? and culture, does it say anything about stealing others culture?
(Watcher, 5 January 2018 16:08)
Why are you so concerned about that, dear? Have you stolen the land and/or culture (whatever that means) that belongs to others and you are afraid now that God will punish you? lol
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There goes the magician and the idiots that believe in magic.
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he warned that "neither our country, nor beautified cities and villages, nor the economic growth to which we so aspire, nor all the goods of this world, will be worth anything if as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
(Reader, 5 January 2018 21:26)
Thank you Reader , I did that and am enjoying living in Serbia 😀
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Kosovo je serbias Auschwitz
Serbia has no Jerusalem
Serbia has no holy at all
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he warned that "neither our country, nor beautified cities and villages, nor the economic growth to which we so aspire, nor all the goods of this world, will be worth anything if as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
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Christ is Born. Glorify Him!
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What proof do you have Albanians (Shqiptares) came from Turkey?
Education might help....
(Azir, 5 January 2018 17:32)
Azir, I explained this to you already! If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back. I'd be your Kum if you want to convert back, just don't think your ready yet - you have too much hate for the world, not very Christian.
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This Serbian mullah has become like the boy who cried wolf one too many times. As a matter of fact Albanians are like Jews and Serbs like Palestinians (livada pripada onome čije ovce na njoj pasu).
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Azir we are still YAWNING !!!!!!!
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Serbia continues to be the greatest threat to peace and stability in Europe if not the world 🌍!
(Azir, 5 January 2018 16:41)
Azir, my furry little friend... There is NO country in Europe that is threatened by Serbia, nor has Serbia threatened anyone; however, and this is a big one, the countries that fear us are the countries that have done harm to our Nation and our people. So, quit trying to include Europe in your tantrum for pseudo support, they aren't listening anymore. Look what's going on around you little buddy!!! And see, this is me being serious, and I even responded to you without making a goat reference!!
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Watcher/Warren Budalo :
What “culture” was “ stolen” from serbs!?
Culture of Genocide?
Culture of War Crimes?
Culture of Crimes against Humanity?
I think 🤔 you have played with yourself a bit too much.
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@ joni
Here goes joni again writing fake comments every single day on b92. Every day serbs this serbs that serbs are bad telling serbs what to do how to eat where to sleep bla bla bla bla bla
For your information serbs are indigenous to these lands. albanians on the other hand are not and originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).
(Ratko, 5 January 2018 16:34)
Uaaahahaaa! Ratkovic but where arrive your craziness?
Everybody know that Serbs aren't INDIGENUS in Balkan.
But you that know everything about all - what do you know about yourself?
Indigenous Serbs hahahaaa!!!
Albanians are indigenous in Balkan Ratko, Serbs are not.
How much you can lie yourself?
Remember Kosovo is to Serbia what Jerusalem is to Palestine - The invaders can claim what they wan't but in the history always will remain THE INVADERS who came from somewhere.
I told you! This man is worst than ISSIS, he can't hide for long behind Orthodoxism.
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LOL! It's seems Albos get stirred up quite easily but look, it's quite simple for you guys. Just go to the United Nations and ask who holds the title to KiM and you'll get your answer. There is no seat there called "Kosova"*** ;-)
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Irinej claims that Kosovo was given to Serbs as an eternal pledge. But I have not found a canonical text to support such a pledge.
Irinej talks about "true European civilization" but Jesus almost completely ignored the powerful Roman Empire throughout his ministry. In one of few statements about leaders/civilization, he instructed the Pharisees to "tell that fox [Herod], Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected." (Luke 13:32)
Rather than telling his disciples to live up to the standards of any society, Jesus taught his disciples to follow the Lord with their entire heart, soul, and mind; and to love their neighbor as themselves (Matt 22:37-29). It is not possible to serve two masters (Matthew 6:24).
Irinej mingles church and civilization in a way that has no precedent in canonical scripture, and certainly not the example of the life of Christ. When I read Irinej and the Bible, I find them to be incompatible narratives.
The problem isn't that Irinej believes in God and the Bible and miracles. The real problem is that he mixes the Word of God with all kinds of other concepts that Christ rejected and yet claims to be a teacher of Christianity and a leader of God's people.
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Just because Slavs invaded Kosova doesn’t make the invaders indigenous !
Slavs are foreigners to Albanians HOMELANDS.
(Azir, 5 January 2018 16:49)
WE HAVE SEIZED THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT'S WHY THEY CALL YOU SLAVIC "ALBANIA" AND SO IS BRITISH "ALBION" AND AMERICAN "ALBANY", ELBA, LABA, ALBA, BALTI, BALI, ABELI ECT. ALL THOSE WORDS MEAN BELI, BALI = WHITE. IT WAS THE COLOR OF THE GREAT ROMAN-MOGOL-TARTAR HORDE WITH CAPITOL FIRST IN VELIKI NOVGOROD AND THEN IN THE OSMAN EMPIRE (BOGDAD OR TSARGRAD). LOOK HOW MANY SLAVIC AND CAUCASIAN HAPPLOGROUPS YOU HAVE IN YOUR DNA. BALCANS WERE OUR PROVINCE FOR CENTURIES AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS CALLED SO (BALI CANS) - SAME AS BALCANS ON CAUCASUS. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE BELGRADE AS THE CITY OF THE WHITES, TIRANA (TOR HANA), TIRASPOL (TORAS POLE), BELEN ECT.
STOP GOING MAD AND ACCEPT THE REALITY !
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Ignorant Ratko Mladic:
What proof do you have Albanians (Shqiptares) came from Turkey?
Education might help....
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Going to be a lot of wicked and evil comments for this article, that is all I expect from you low life cowardly Serb haters out there, keep opening your filthy mouths with contempt of Divine God, the wrath of Hell will soon be upon you all !!!
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@Watcher
Don't change tact, the Patriarch is a supposed Christian, so where in the Bible is Kosovo mentioned? Nowhere. As frr stealing, the bible says don't, funnily enough slavery is OK but that's for another thread; however, God obviously must think Albanians did not steal Kosovo as we're now out of the heavenly state. If it disagreed, it would have done something about it, instead, it allowed NATO to bomb the heavenly rabble
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Mr.Jerkovic/Watcher:
Ayatollah Irinej is no GOD.
More like EVIL🧛♂🇷🇸
The Pope was going to visit Irinej to conduct an official EXORCISM to try and remove this cursed evil but success was not assured!
Serbia continues to be the greatest threat to peace and stability in Europe if not the world 🌍!
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Dear ignorant Slavs:
Just because I might marry into Royalty does not make my ancestors 👑 royal...
Just because Slavs invaded Kosova doesn’t make the invaders indigenous !
Slavs are foreigners to Albanians HOMELANDS.
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sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 12:44)
@ nikolle - hmmm, not sure what you mean by "mixed", but since you've "read" the Bible, what does it say about Stealing? Like Land that belongs to others? and culture, does it say anything about stealing others culture? Enlighten us!
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@ joni
Here goes joni again writing fake comments every single day on b92. Every day serbs this serbs that serbs are bad telling serbs what to do how to eat where to sleep bla bla bla bla bla
For your information serbs are indigenous to these lands. albanians on the other hand are not and originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).
pre 6 godina
To Azir the Joke,
Slavs invaded the Balkans, yes, but they didn't replace the locals, fool.
We Serbs have lived on the Balkans since we were known as Triballi
pre 6 godina
Mr Irinej!
Kosovo is to Serbia what Jerusalem is to Palestinians - both are invaders of these lands.
All what Serbia has in Kosovo is what Palestinians have in Jerusalem - same old Churches in Kosovo and same old Mosques in Israel.
Israelits and Albanians are AUTCHOTONUS in their own lands.
Ask to find your roots to find which is your holly land.
Somebody can not came in the land of other people, steal it and then claim it as it holly land, destroy everything and then claim it as its own.
I bet this man don't work for God and as such God will give to you the gift you deserve. This is a monster who will die without respect.
pre 6 godina
"Kosovo is Serb Jerusalem"
Sure, like Vatican is the Jerusalem of more than one billion Catholics worldwide.
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"as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Perhaps Miroslav can get a wife (if he can find one) and start contributing to the births rather than just whining about it!
pre 6 godina
No land is Holy.
The concept is stupid.
Like everything about religion, this is part of the inventions of man in the times of ignorance.
What amazes me is that people still believe in this kind of rubbish.
pre 6 godina
As his Government voted against Israel and US, supporting the position that Jerusalem is not Israel's capital, these comparations are then to be interpreted from Palestinian position? As in "what is Jerusalem to Palestine etc." this is "Kosovo to Serbia" bla bla. They have quite stable anti-israel and pro-palestinian position in international politics, one could say traditional.
pre 6 godina
If the US is moving their Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, maybe the Russians should move their Serbian embassy to Kosovo...
pre 6 godina
Heaven has a Real Estate 🏡 Department!
Who knew?!?!?!
Well..... then ...God gave me this, and this, and this bla bla bla etc......
Yeah right!
pre 6 godina
Slav (Ukrainians-Russians) serbs invaded the Balkans and our indigenous home 🏠 lands in the 6/7 Century...
How does this fact make Kosova property of serbs?!?!?
Because you converted non Serb structures into “ churches “?
What about the Humans inhabitants in Kosova prior to Slav invasion????
You can’t say you landed on a Moon 🌙 and there was no living souls there!
Serbs true Home is not in the BALKANS
pre 6 godina
sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
pre 6 godina
God gave land to serbs ?
In Siberia probably....
Did the Serbs get that document from the almighty notarized ?
Or was the real estate 🏡 transaction handle by heavenly brokers?
Who is God’s Resl Estate Attorney that handles this?
pre 6 godina
To all my Serbian Brothers and Sisters---Hristos Se Rodi! Kosovo je Serbija! Uvek Ce Biti. Nema mesta za drugi.
pre 6 godina
",...given to us by God as an eternal pledge." God deals in real estate? Wow, talk about efficiency! A universe to run and still enough time to devote to the heavenly people, though I do get that the concept of time doesn't really exist for the almighty
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 11:49)
Another Albo not too bright. The Jews also believe in the concept of the Almighty giving land to their chosen people, but that does not include Albos LOL.
pre 6 godina
If any of the big messiahs or prophets were around today, they would be ridiculed and quite possibly detained under mental health regulations. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's any more valid.
Thousands of religions have existed in the history of mankind, most of which have died out, as will these. Even now there are multiple ones claiming to be the one true faith and believers mostly take the majority faith of the geographic area they are born into.
The trouble is that these organisations have acquired huge wealth and get their claws into children from birth.
pre 6 godina
",...given to us by God as an eternal pledge." God deals in real estate? Wow, talk about efficiency! A universe to run and still enough time to devote to the heavenly people, though I do get that the concept of time doesn't really exist for the almighty
pre 6 godina
To all my Serbian Brothers and Sisters---Hristos Se Rodi! Kosovo je Serbija! Uvek Ce Biti. Nema mesta za drugi.
pre 6 godina
God gave land to serbs ?
In Siberia probably....
Did the Serbs get that document from the almighty notarized ?
Or was the real estate 🏡 transaction handle by heavenly brokers?
Who is God’s Resl Estate Attorney that handles this?
pre 6 godina
@ joni
Here goes joni again writing fake comments every single day on b92. Every day serbs this serbs that serbs are bad telling serbs what to do how to eat where to sleep bla bla bla bla bla
For your information serbs are indigenous to these lands. albanians on the other hand are not and originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).
pre 6 godina
LOL! It's seems Albos get stirred up quite easily but look, it's quite simple for you guys. Just go to the United Nations and ask who holds the title to KiM and you'll get your answer. There is no seat there called "Kosova"*** ;-)
pre 6 godina
",...given to us by God as an eternal pledge." God deals in real estate? Wow, talk about efficiency! A universe to run and still enough time to devote to the heavenly people, though I do get that the concept of time doesn't really exist for the almighty
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 11:49)
Another Albo not too bright. The Jews also believe in the concept of the Almighty giving land to their chosen people, but that does not include Albos LOL.
pre 6 godina
sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
pre 6 godina
Going to be a lot of wicked and evil comments for this article, that is all I expect from you low life cowardly Serb haters out there, keep opening your filthy mouths with contempt of Divine God, the wrath of Hell will soon be upon you all !!!
pre 6 godina
Christ is Born. Glorify Him!
pre 6 godina
Slav (Ukrainians-Russians) serbs invaded the Balkans and our indigenous home 🏠 lands in the 6/7 Century...
How does this fact make Kosova property of serbs?!?!?
Because you converted non Serb structures into “ churches “?
What about the Humans inhabitants in Kosova prior to Slav invasion????
You can’t say you landed on a Moon 🌙 and there was no living souls there!
Serbs true Home is not in the BALKANS
pre 6 godina
Dear ignorant Slavs:
Just because I might marry into Royalty does not make my ancestors 👑 royal...
Just because Slavs invaded Kosova doesn’t make the invaders indigenous !
Slavs are foreigners to Albanians HOMELANDS.
pre 6 godina
What proof do you have Albanians (Shqiptares) came from Turkey?
Education might help....
(Azir, 5 January 2018 17:32)
Azir, I explained this to you already! If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back. I'd be your Kum if you want to convert back, just don't think your ready yet - you have too much hate for the world, not very Christian.
pre 6 godina
",...given to us by God as an eternal pledge." God deals in real estate? Wow, talk about efficiency! A universe to run and still enough time to devote to the heavenly people, though I do get that the concept of time doesn't really exist for the almighty
pre 6 godina
No land is Holy.
The concept is stupid.
Like everything about religion, this is part of the inventions of man in the times of ignorance.
What amazes me is that people still believe in this kind of rubbish.
pre 6 godina
To Azir the Joke,
Slavs invaded the Balkans, yes, but they didn't replace the locals, fool.
We Serbs have lived on the Balkans since we were known as Triballi
pre 6 godina
Heaven has a Real Estate 🏡 Department!
Who knew?!?!?!
Well..... then ...God gave me this, and this, and this bla bla bla etc......
Yeah right!
pre 6 godina
If the US is moving their Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, maybe the Russians should move their Serbian embassy to Kosovo...
pre 6 godina
Serbia continues to be the greatest threat to peace and stability in Europe if not the world 🌍!
(Azir, 5 January 2018 16:41)
Azir, my furry little friend... There is NO country in Europe that is threatened by Serbia, nor has Serbia threatened anyone; however, and this is a big one, the countries that fear us are the countries that have done harm to our Nation and our people. So, quit trying to include Europe in your tantrum for pseudo support, they aren't listening anymore. Look what's going on around you little buddy!!! And see, this is me being serious, and I even responded to you without making a goat reference!!
pre 6 godina
This guy is so stupid Kosova is Serbia. Kosova is gone 20 Years ago you can say all you want Kosovo is Serbia. But reality Kosova will never ever be pat of Serbia again ever. You serbs keep making your self happy and telling lies to other Serbs all you want.
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Mr.Jerkovic/Watcher:
Ayatollah Irinej is no GOD.
More like EVIL🧛♂🇷🇸
The Pope was going to visit Irinej to conduct an official EXORCISM to try and remove this cursed evil but success was not assured!
Serbia continues to be the greatest threat to peace and stability in Europe if not the world 🌍!
pre 6 godina
Ignorant Ratko Mladic:
What proof do you have Albanians (Shqiptares) came from Turkey?
Education might help....
pre 6 godina
Kosovo je serbias Auschwitz
Serbia has no Jerusalem
Serbia has no holy at all
pre 6 godina
Mr Irinej!
Kosovo is to Serbia what Jerusalem is to Palestinians - both are invaders of these lands.
All what Serbia has in Kosovo is what Palestinians have in Jerusalem - same old Churches in Kosovo and same old Mosques in Israel.
Israelits and Albanians are AUTCHOTONUS in their own lands.
Ask to find your roots to find which is your holly land.
Somebody can not came in the land of other people, steal it and then claim it as it holly land, destroy everything and then claim it as its own.
I bet this man don't work for God and as such God will give to you the gift you deserve. This is a monster who will die without respect.
pre 6 godina
sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 12:44)
@ nikolle - hmmm, not sure what you mean by "mixed", but since you've "read" the Bible, what does it say about Stealing? Like Land that belongs to others? and culture, does it say anything about stealing others culture? Enlighten us!
pre 6 godina
This Serbian mullah has become like the boy who cried wolf one too many times. As a matter of fact Albanians are like Jews and Serbs like Palestinians (livada pripada onome čije ovce na njoj pasu).
pre 6 godina
start making kids.
reader
Do you mean like Albanians do and then taking their kids to the German borders or Calais in France and abandon them for somebody else to pick the tub.More than 2ooo Albanian children were abandoned in UK alone.
pre 6 godina
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17
Hey Azir, I love that a girl has to stick up for you!!! Pretty typical for Albo men I guess. Not only can ice pop out 12 kids, but she can stick up for her man as well.
pre 6 godina
Irinej I searched the bible nowhere dose it say Kosovo is the holy land or Jerusalem. Then again you feed Serbs wicked delusions. That Serbs are heavenly people but sadly earthly no good. People like you lead people directly to hell. They will see you in hell Irinej and all lies will end. Reality will take over for all eternity. Mat 23:15
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Priests, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
pre 6 godina
If any of the big messiahs or prophets were around today, they would be ridiculed and quite possibly detained under mental health regulations. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's any more valid.
Thousands of religions have existed in the history of mankind, most of which have died out, as will these. Even now there are multiple ones claiming to be the one true faith and believers mostly take the majority faith of the geographic area they are born into.
The trouble is that these organisations have acquired huge wealth and get their claws into children from birth.
pre 6 godina
Trizio
She is not albanian, she is a gypsy from Albania. Nice Propaganda, though. Btw Kosovo is Albanian. Always has been always will be. Its albanian territory,albanian property, and albanian land. You kind belong in the siberian lowlands.
Get out from OUR Kosovo. Albanians will always fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them.
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@Watcher
Don't change tact, the Patriarch is a supposed Christian, so where in the Bible is Kosovo mentioned? Nowhere. As frr stealing, the bible says don't, funnily enough slavery is OK but that's for another thread; however, God obviously must think Albanians did not steal Kosovo as we're now out of the heavenly state. If it disagreed, it would have done something about it, instead, it allowed NATO to bomb the heavenly rabble
pre 6 godina
If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
ChiTown was responding to Azir the Coward above and icj1 the Serb-Hater came to Azir's defense. icj1 has distinguished herself as a deceitful lying and fraudulent individual countless times on this forum, but defending the likes of Azir (an individual who glorifies what happened at the Jasenovac death camp) tells us all we need to know about Serb-Hating icj1. You know what they say, you are the company you keep. icj1 and Azir, two peas in a pod.
And BTW, how would icj1 know anything about Azir's ancestors? Maybe the Serb-Hater can answer that question for us, but I doubt it. Cowards like her run away.
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That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
Here's me being icj!!! "I know you are, but what am I". Her best comments are restating your post in question form - way to think for yourself ice, and Azir...
pre 6 godina
"Kosovo is Serb Jerusalem"
Sure, like Vatican is the Jerusalem of more than one billion Catholics worldwide.
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"as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Perhaps Miroslav can get a wife (if he can find one) and start contributing to the births rather than just whining about it!
pre 6 godina
@ joni
Here goes joni again writing fake comments every single day on b92. Every day serbs this serbs that serbs are bad telling serbs what to do how to eat where to sleep bla bla bla bla bla
For your information serbs are indigenous to these lands. albanians on the other hand are not and originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).
(Ratko, 5 January 2018 16:34)
Uaaahahaaa! Ratkovic but where arrive your craziness?
Everybody know that Serbs aren't INDIGENUS in Balkan.
But you that know everything about all - what do you know about yourself?
Indigenous Serbs hahahaaa!!!
Albanians are indigenous in Balkan Ratko, Serbs are not.
How much you can lie yourself?
Remember Kosovo is to Serbia what Jerusalem is to Palestine - The invaders can claim what they wan't but in the history always will remain THE INVADERS who came from somewhere.
I told you! This man is worst than ISSIS, he can't hide for long behind Orthodoxism.
pre 6 godina
Azir we are still YAWNING !!!!!!!
pre 6 godina
he warned that "neither our country, nor beautified cities and villages, nor the economic growth to which we so aspire, nor all the goods of this world, will be worth anything if as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
(Reader, 5 January 2018 21:26)
Thank you Reader , I did that and am enjoying living in Serbia 😀
pre 6 godina
She is not albanian, she is a gypsy from Albania. Nice Propaganda, though. Btw Kosovo is Albanian. Always has been always will be. Its albanian territory,albanian property, and albanian land. You kind belong in the siberian lowlands.
Get out from OUR Kosovo. Albanians will always fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them.
(Victory1999, 7 January 2018 18:55)
You have lost over 500,000 from Kosovo and give ti a couple of more years there will be none and the best part is Serbia will not have to life a finger LOL.
pre 6 godina
Just because Slavs invaded Kosova doesn’t make the invaders indigenous !
Slavs are foreigners to Albanians HOMELANDS.
(Azir, 5 January 2018 16:49)
WE HAVE SEIZED THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT'S WHY THEY CALL YOU SLAVIC "ALBANIA" AND SO IS BRITISH "ALBION" AND AMERICAN "ALBANY", ELBA, LABA, ALBA, BALTI, BALI, ABELI ECT. ALL THOSE WORDS MEAN BELI, BALI = WHITE. IT WAS THE COLOR OF THE GREAT ROMAN-MOGOL-TARTAR HORDE WITH CAPITOL FIRST IN VELIKI NOVGOROD AND THEN IN THE OSMAN EMPIRE (BOGDAD OR TSARGRAD). LOOK HOW MANY SLAVIC AND CAUCASIAN HAPPLOGROUPS YOU HAVE IN YOUR DNA. BALCANS WERE OUR PROVINCE FOR CENTURIES AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS CALLED SO (BALI CANS) - SAME AS BALCANS ON CAUCASUS. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE BELGRADE AS THE CITY OF THE WHITES, TIRANA (TOR HANA), TIRASPOL (TORAS POLE), BELEN ECT.
STOP GOING MAD AND ACCEPT THE REALITY !
pre 6 godina
Watcher/Warren Budalo :
What “culture” was “ stolen” from serbs!?
Culture of Genocide?
Culture of War Crimes?
Culture of Crimes against Humanity?
I think 🤔 you have played with yourself a bit too much.
pre 6 godina
he warned that "neither our country, nor beautified cities and villages, nor the economic growth to which we so aspire, nor all the goods of this world, will be worth anything if as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
pre 6 godina
This has all the attributes of a "Call for a Holy War", well here we go again, its always a serb thing.
As for some of the comments down, folks (serbs) you are trying to build a strong identity where I believe since 1830's, your experiment is failing slowly but surely. History of the serbs??? O better saying a history of a free herd of ottoman remains.
pre 6 godina
sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 12:44)
All Irenej is saying is what Jerusalem is to Jews, Kosovo is to Serbs. All religious leaders use the same style of language referencing God and gifts from God so if you read the text of the Pope’s messages you will see the speech couched in same terminology.
pre 6 godina
sj
"low paid jobs"
More serbian propaganda as usual. How pathetic can you get. Your country is poor and incompetent and so are your kind. What have serbs contributed as a diaspora now these days? Nothing. You never hear about any so called "successful serbs" since that is complete oxymoron.
And you have still zero control over Kosovo. Despite that twenty years have passed. Zero control,zero authority,zero influence. Nothing. As impotent as serbian men are. A dying nation with no future and a diaspora that enjoys living off western welfare despite they hate the west. That is truly sad....
pre 6 godina
Irinej claims that Kosovo was given to Serbs as an eternal pledge. But I have not found a canonical text to support such a pledge.
Irinej talks about "true European civilization" but Jesus almost completely ignored the powerful Roman Empire throughout his ministry. In one of few statements about leaders/civilization, he instructed the Pharisees to "tell that fox [Herod], Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected." (Luke 13:32)
Rather than telling his disciples to live up to the standards of any society, Jesus taught his disciples to follow the Lord with their entire heart, soul, and mind; and to love their neighbor as themselves (Matt 22:37-29). It is not possible to serve two masters (Matthew 6:24).
Irinej mingles church and civilization in a way that has no precedent in canonical scripture, and certainly not the example of the life of Christ. When I read Irinej and the Bible, I find them to be incompatible narratives.
The problem isn't that Irinej believes in God and the Bible and miracles. The real problem is that he mixes the Word of God with all kinds of other concepts that Christ rejected and yet claims to be a teacher of Christianity and a leader of God's people.
pre 6 godina
Albo trolls, probably out desecrating some graveyards today and shooting some innocent people because of the guns being fired for the badnjak. Today in the blic paper was an article on a woman from Albania who married a Serb and celebrates Christmas Eve and Christmas in peace. Why can’t you be like her and recognize the birthplace of Serbian orthodoxy instead of trying to steal it to traffic heroin?
Merry Christmas all... except the trolls (aka the evil the Bible mentions)
pre 6 godina
“Moesia Serb “ you’re drinking again!
Slav Serbs originated outside the Balkans.
Although you continue to occupy Bulgarian 🇧🇬 land your roots are elsewhere.
Your own historians might be able to educate you.
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Hristos se Rodi !!!
Today Serbian Ancient Holy Land Kosovo occupied by Islamic terrorist who are supported, funded and armed by the USA, England and Germany ! Our Serbian ancestors many centuries ago founded and established the Eastern Orthodox Christian faith upon the Balkans within the Sacred Heart of Srpsko Veliko Sveto Kosovo and paid dearly with their sweat, blood and tears many times over and over ! Hilly Billy Clinton, Tony Blair and Hitler hold no title to Ancient Serbian territories and properties, no one has the right to steal and take away Serbian lands and give away to bandits, Kosovo was and will always remain within the deepest depth within our humble and pure Serbian hearts ! The measure of strength or power, mortal man proposes but in the end Divine God disposes ! Today when we celebrate Divine God we must remember and never forget our Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters who are currently suffering in their ancient home lands of Sveto Kosovo and Srpska Krajina under the occupation of evil, wicked and sadistic Islamic terrorist and Nazi Ustase ! Land and Liberty, Love your Mother Earth Serbian people, Better we die with dignity and grace standing then perish like slaves on our knees. Bolje Grob Nego Rob !!!
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Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
(Reader, 5 January 2018 21:26)
Well both secular and religious laws make it illegal to marry more than one woman. Since I am already married any further marriage would be classified as bigamy, unless you are a Muslim.
The issue of increasing the population is actually very easy to address and that requires the right government policy which I understand is being worked on now.
There is this mentality amongst Muslims that believe if you have enough children they will somehow rule the world. In the past, Albanians in Yugoslavia had 10 or 12 children and what are they ruling today? Only low paid jobs throughout Europe and US.
The secret to ruling is quality not quantity. You can switch off quantity like you turn off water at a tap by reducing food supply. Numbers disappear so does the problem.
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Victory1999, 8 January 2018 12:05)
You want to know about successful Serbs, just google and there are plenty starting with Mihajlo Pupin, Karl Malden etc. I was born and live in Australia and there are directors, lawyers, bankers, journalists, academics, TV personalities, high ranking military personnel who are Serbs. The director of the emergency department of a major hospital in Sydney who is a Serb.
I have worked in the finance industry for over 30 years in Australia and South-East Asia and have come across Serbs who are now on boards of directors and GMs throughout the world, but I have never come across an Albanian until I went to Kosovo.
As I said despite having 10 to 12 children in Yugoslavia what have Albanians achieved? Nothing except working in low paid jobs. Its quality you need not quantity.
We just leave Kosovo as is and you will all die out. Over half a million have left and more and more leave every day.
Serbs don't live off welfare but your fellow Muslims do.
pre 6 godina
There goes the magician and the idiots that believe in magic.
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but since you've "read" the Bible, what does it say about Stealing? Like Land that belongs to others? and culture, does it say anything about stealing others culture?
(Watcher, 5 January 2018 16:08)
Why are you so concerned about that, dear? Have you stolen the land and/or culture (whatever that means) that belongs to others and you are afraid now that God will punish you? lol
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If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
defending the likes of Azir (an individual who glorifies what happened at the Jasenovac death camp) tells us all we need to know
(njegos, 6 January 2018 16:20)
I did you write anything about any "Azir", dear. That is just a dream that you experienced during the night and now you are confusing it with reality!
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And BTW, how would icj1 know anything about Azir's ancestors?
(njegos, 6 January 2018 16:20)
Same way that our dear friend ChiTown knows lol
pre 6 godina
Chi town why keep mentioning my name?
Don’t you notice I am ignoring stupidity?
You make no sense .
Please don’t be a coward and use your real name.I guarantee your safety...
You would have absolutely nothing to worry about.....
Be a real man!
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"members of true European civilization".
The hypocrisy of this man knows no limits.
Theologically according to Orthodox Church European Civilisation is heretic, since Catholic and Protestant Church are considered heretics.
Historically Orthodox Churches hated European Civilisation members. The very name Eastern Orthodox Church is to distinguish it from the Europeans. They iven invented an alphabet only to distance themselves from Europeans. During Ottoman Empire invasion Orthodox Churches were most of the time obedient servants to the Sultan. Even today Orthodox Churches have better relationship with Muslims than they have with Catholics, nevermind the Protestants.
And someone reminds this "Holy" hypocrite that it was the members of true European Civilisation that bombed the fascist regime of Milosevic when he was committing a genocide and an ethical cleansing in "Holy Jerusalem" Kosovo.
Maybe he should apologise to Kosovo for what Serbia did to Kosovo people before claiming the membership in the "true European Civilisation".
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Sj
Never heard of them, and so has not anyone else. You know why? Because they are all beyond irrelevant. Why do you live in Australia? Why dont you all move back to serbia if serbia so rich and well developed?
And there are many ethnicities that have successful jobs elsewhere including Albanians. What makes you special? You are not. Not even close. And there are many Albanians that have successful careers and high paid jobs not mention higher education in diaspora as well. Funny how you try to paint it black and white, while in reality its the opposite. You are not superior in anything i am afraid. Time will come when your delusions will shatter and you will not like how reality actually looks like
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Chi town why keep mentioning my name?
Azire - I keep mentioning it so you leave this forum, and I'll continue to do it until you do. Oh, and all your other aliases as well. Sretna Nova Godina buddy.... Stop being a Budala and I'll stop mentioning you, deal???
pre 6 godina
reader
Your answer shows lack of basic education,you fail to see the necessity and privilege of having a small family and instead you're dumb enough to insinuate what the prophet said"Allah wants more children to be born".Also Muslims want to produce more children to prove their manliness.I would go as far as to clam that all Muslims are brainwashed and have a hidden agenda.Thats to turn the whole world Islamic by increasing the Muslim population and converting non-muslims to Muslims.
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Provide your full name and we can make a deal.
(Azir, 8 January 2018 17:58)
@ azire budalo - there are no deals with you! You are a known idiot with IQ as low as my shoelace.
Next thing you know, ChiTown will be missing a kidney, being sold to rich isreali's...You cannot be trusted.
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Next thing you know, ChiTown will be missing a kidney, being sold to rich isreali's...You cannot be trusted.
(Watcher, 8 January 2018 22:12
Watcher, I'm not worried about my kidney, I'm more worried about the organ that hangs between my legs - I think Azir could use this, more for himself, instead of a silly kidney....
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As his Government voted against Israel and US, supporting the position that Jerusalem is not Israel's capital, these comparations are then to be interpreted from Palestinian position? As in "what is Jerusalem to Palestine etc." this is "Kosovo to Serbia" bla bla. They have quite stable anti-israel and pro-palestinian position in international politics, one could say traditional.
pre 6 godina
If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
pre 6 godina
Be a real man!
(Azir, 6 January 2018 19:44
It's Rehan buddy. Look up the meaning....
pre 6 godina
Azir, Ancient Serbs or The Moesi was a tribe which inhabited present day Northern Bulgaria and Serbia, which inhabited Moesia (Mysia) therefore Serbs aren't Slavs. Moesia Superior changed name into Serbia after gained independence from Bulgaria which changed name from Moesia Inferior into Bulgaria. When Serbs existed under its name the word Slavs didn't exist. During the Moesia(Mysia) existence Albania was in the Northeast Asia.
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And you have still zero control over Kosovo. Despite that twenty years have passed. Zero control,zero authority,zero influence. Nothing. As impotent as serbian men are. A dying nation with no future and a diaspora that enjoys living off western welfare despite they hate the west. That is truly sad....
(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 12:05)
@ vicki - why is this truly sad? The way you write, you cannot wait for the Srb nation & people to be wiped off the face of this earth! Why so sad, then? Are you being hypocritical?
I understand Srbija cannot ever be the way "thriving" kosova is...with it's ever growing economy and such, but maybe one day, even Srbija can be 'Europes youngest democracy", no? LOL, LOL
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Sj
Never heard of them, and so has not anyone else. You know why? Because they are all beyond irrelevant. Why do you live in Australia? Why dont you all move back to serbia if serbia so rich and well developed?
And there are many ethnicities that have successful jobs elsewhere including Albanians. What makes you special? You are not. Not even close. And there are many Albanians that have successful careers and high paid jobs not mention higher education in diaspora as well. Funny how you try to paint it black and white, while in reality its the opposite. You are not superior in anything i am afraid. Time will come when your delusions will shatter and you will not like how reality actually looks like
(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 14:48)
@ Vicki budalo - lol, YOU challenged sj to who's who in Srb history. You got your panties in a bunch and all butthurt when he TOLD you OUR history with successful Srbs around the world.
That was too funny!
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(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 14:48)
Well if you have never heard of them I cant help you with your ignorance? Try also googling Milutin Milankovic who was a scientist rated by NASA to be one of 15 greatest minds in history involving earth science. Milankovic was a mathematician who developed a theory on earth climatics pre WW2 and it took until the 1960s to realize what he said was right only after computational calculations were advanced enough to show he was right.
I was born in Australia; my mother is Australian, and my children were born here so why would I move to Serbia? Yes, Serbia is poor but its industrialising again and it will not be poor for long. But the more important question since you were not born in the country you currently live in, why don’t you move back to Kosvoa?
I know that there are many people of different ethnic backgrounds in successful jobs. The last European person I worked with was Polish. However, my first encounter with an Albanian was in Kosovo in 2015.
The only Albanian in a higher educated job I know of in Australia is a university lecturer and there are just over 10,000 Albanians living here.
My little friend time is something Albanians do not have on their side.
pre 6 godina
SRETNA SLAVA svima ko slave danas!!!
pre 6 godina
What great news on Christmas Day, they arrested one of the organ traffickers after a 10 year man hunt. He worked from the clinic in Kosovo and came from Israel. Hopefully the trial will shed light on the rest of the organ trafficking Albanians who turned our holy sacred place into a ghetto of drugs and human organ trafficking.
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(www, 9 January 2018 11:49)
Milutin Milankovic, Nikola Tesla and Mihajlo Pupin were exceptional figures in history – giants standing on shoulders of humanity. I can name dozens of engineers of Serbian decent that have worked on projects like car, satellite, aircraft and rocket design. Three who worked in the Jet Propulsion Lab in California. A Serb was in charge of the school of Engineering at MIT for 30 years.
It was Victory1999, who said “What have serbs contributed as a diaspora now these days? Nothing. You never hear about any so called "successful serbs" since that is complete oxymoron. “
So if you hide behind racism I suggest you have a nice talk to your fellow Albanian. Victory 1999. Plus, Albanians predominantly work in low paid jobs in the EU. That’s not racism its called fact.
pre 6 godina
Chi town the Budalo:
Why do you fear the TRUTH so much?
You know serbs are dieing out!
Getting rehabilitated is never too late.
Provide your full name and we can make a deal.
pre 6 godina
Do you mean like Albanians do and then taking their kids to the German borders or Calais in France and abandon them for somebody else to pick the tub.More than 2ooo Albanian children were abandoned in UK alone.
(andrew, 6 January 2018 15:13)
That is sad if it is true. I don't mean it like that andrew. I mean it like Irinej means it. Make kids, so Irinej's flock does not dwindle further. You too andrew, go back to Serbia and start making kids :). Like Sasa from Jagodina, who at least, is consistent, and who I applaud. Stop wasting time here on B92, and go make kids :). After making them, don't abandon them like "those nasty Albanians" you talk about but give them to Irinej to care about their spiritual righteousness :).
@sj, I am only reinforcing what your patriarch Irinej is saying. His mentality is the same as those Muslims you talk about apparently :).
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Lol, “Kosovo is Serb Jerusalem”. Serbs have become pathetic and desperate. Kosovo was Illyrian territory, Greko-Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, a small period of Serbian and Bulgarian rule and then Ottoman territory for 500 years. After that it was gifted to Serbia by the great powers after the Balkan wars. Serbian claims over Kosovo are based on some pathetic Serbian attempt to fight the Ottomans which ended with them having their asses kicked and their women subjugated to sexual slavery, while their young boys were made slave soldiers until they were replaced by their Albanian and Bosniak counterparts. You see the land was never yours since you’ve only been in the region for a little over a thousand years, and to compare it to Jerusalem is insulting as the natives are both the majority in Kosovo and Israel. Serbs are more like the Palestinian leeches who want everything around them yet no sane person would recognise their claim.
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@sj, I am only reinforcing what your patriarch Irinej is saying. His mentality is the same as those Muslims you talk about apparently :).
(Reader, 8 January 2018 20:09)
There is a huge difference between your Muslims and what Irinej is saying. Irinej is only talking about one place that belongs to Serbia and that’s Kosovo. He does not lay claim to Italy, Greece or Turkey or any other part of the world. Irinej does not go around trying to convert the world to Serbian Orthodoxy by force.
As I said there is a huge difference between Irinej and the message your Muslims want to deliver.
I thought Nikolle asked the question. So you must be Nikolle.
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therefore Serbs aren't Slavs. Moesia Superior changed name into Serbia after gained independence from Bulgaria which changed name from Moesia Inferior into Bulgaria. When Serbs existed under its name the word Slavs didn't exist. During the Moesia(Mysia) existence Albania was in the Northeast Asia.
(Moesian Serb, 7 January 2018 11:40)
WHY NOT TAKE A DAY OUT AND STOP THIS BS?
THIS ONE DAY - PLEASE !
IN RETURN I'LL EDUCATE YOU A BIT.
PS
MENTIONED IN QURAN
*** MOHAMMAD RASUL-UL-ULLAH 4 TIMES
*** ISA THE PROPHET 27 TIMES
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Sj
Then you have not heard of Wilson Kokalari i suppose? He was an Albanian who migrated to the United states during 1940s from Gjirokastra and later on he became a Nasa engineer who was involved in the Apollo 11 program that hepled to put the first man on the moon in 1969(together with other scientists and engineers). He was on of many Nasa engineers.
Albanians are individuals like every one else and not all of us work with "low paid jobs". That is just racism and ignorance. Not a good trait to have
pre 6 godina
Nikola
what about good wishes to everyone everyday not just Serbs
and you dont need Religion to make the point either
pre 6 godina
Kosovo je serbias Auschwitz
Serbia has no Jerusalem
Serbia has no holy at all
pre 6 godina
Mr.Jerkovic/Watcher:
Ayatollah Irinej is no GOD.
More like EVIL🧛♂🇷🇸
The Pope was going to visit Irinej to conduct an official EXORCISM to try and remove this cursed evil but success was not assured!
Serbia continues to be the greatest threat to peace and stability in Europe if not the world 🌍!
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Dear ignorant Slavs:
Just because I might marry into Royalty does not make my ancestors 👑 royal...
Just because Slavs invaded Kosova doesn’t make the invaders indigenous !
Slavs are foreigners to Albanians HOMELANDS.
pre 6 godina
God gave land to serbs ?
In Siberia probably....
Did the Serbs get that document from the almighty notarized ?
Or was the real estate 🏡 transaction handle by heavenly brokers?
Who is God’s Resl Estate Attorney that handles this?
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Slav (Ukrainians-Russians) serbs invaded the Balkans and our indigenous home 🏠 lands in the 6/7 Century...
How does this fact make Kosova property of serbs?!?!?
Because you converted non Serb structures into “ churches “?
What about the Humans inhabitants in Kosova prior to Slav invasion????
You can’t say you landed on a Moon 🌙 and there was no living souls there!
Serbs true Home is not in the BALKANS
pre 6 godina
sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
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@Watcher
Don't change tact, the Patriarch is a supposed Christian, so where in the Bible is Kosovo mentioned? Nowhere. As frr stealing, the bible says don't, funnily enough slavery is OK but that's for another thread; however, God obviously must think Albanians did not steal Kosovo as we're now out of the heavenly state. If it disagreed, it would have done something about it, instead, it allowed NATO to bomb the heavenly rabble
pre 6 godina
",...given to us by God as an eternal pledge." God deals in real estate? Wow, talk about efficiency! A universe to run and still enough time to devote to the heavenly people, though I do get that the concept of time doesn't really exist for the almighty
pre 6 godina
Heaven has a Real Estate 🏡 Department!
Who knew?!?!?!
Well..... then ...God gave me this, and this, and this bla bla bla etc......
Yeah right!
pre 6 godina
Mr Irinej!
Kosovo is to Serbia what Jerusalem is to Palestinians - both are invaders of these lands.
All what Serbia has in Kosovo is what Palestinians have in Jerusalem - same old Churches in Kosovo and same old Mosques in Israel.
Israelits and Albanians are AUTCHOTONUS in their own lands.
Ask to find your roots to find which is your holly land.
Somebody can not came in the land of other people, steal it and then claim it as it holly land, destroy everything and then claim it as its own.
I bet this man don't work for God and as such God will give to you the gift you deserve. This is a monster who will die without respect.
pre 6 godina
To Azir the Joke,
Slavs invaded the Balkans, yes, but they didn't replace the locals, fool.
We Serbs have lived on the Balkans since we were known as Triballi
pre 6 godina
Serbia continues to be the greatest threat to peace and stability in Europe if not the world 🌍!
(Azir, 5 January 2018 16:41)
Azir, my furry little friend... There is NO country in Europe that is threatened by Serbia, nor has Serbia threatened anyone; however, and this is a big one, the countries that fear us are the countries that have done harm to our Nation and our people. So, quit trying to include Europe in your tantrum for pseudo support, they aren't listening anymore. Look what's going on around you little buddy!!! And see, this is me being serious, and I even responded to you without making a goat reference!!
pre 6 godina
Going to be a lot of wicked and evil comments for this article, that is all I expect from you low life cowardly Serb haters out there, keep opening your filthy mouths with contempt of Divine God, the wrath of Hell will soon be upon you all !!!
pre 6 godina
"Kosovo is Serb Jerusalem"
Sure, like Vatican is the Jerusalem of more than one billion Catholics worldwide.
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"as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Perhaps Miroslav can get a wife (if he can find one) and start contributing to the births rather than just whining about it!
pre 6 godina
No land is Holy.
The concept is stupid.
Like everything about religion, this is part of the inventions of man in the times of ignorance.
What amazes me is that people still believe in this kind of rubbish.
pre 6 godina
This guy is so stupid Kosova is Serbia. Kosova is gone 20 Years ago you can say all you want Kosovo is Serbia. But reality Kosova will never ever be pat of Serbia again ever. You serbs keep making your self happy and telling lies to other Serbs all you want.
pre 6 godina
To all my Serbian Brothers and Sisters---Hristos Se Rodi! Kosovo je Serbija! Uvek Ce Biti. Nema mesta za drugi.
pre 6 godina
Ignorant Ratko Mladic:
What proof do you have Albanians (Shqiptares) came from Turkey?
Education might help....
pre 6 godina
What proof do you have Albanians (Shqiptares) came from Turkey?
Education might help....
(Azir, 5 January 2018 17:32)
Azir, I explained this to you already! If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back. I'd be your Kum if you want to convert back, just don't think your ready yet - you have too much hate for the world, not very Christian.
pre 6 godina
This has all the attributes of a "Call for a Holy War", well here we go again, its always a serb thing.
As for some of the comments down, folks (serbs) you are trying to build a strong identity where I believe since 1830's, your experiment is failing slowly but surely. History of the serbs??? O better saying a history of a free herd of ottoman remains.
pre 6 godina
If any of the big messiahs or prophets were around today, they would be ridiculed and quite possibly detained under mental health regulations. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's any more valid.
Thousands of religions have existed in the history of mankind, most of which have died out, as will these. Even now there are multiple ones claiming to be the one true faith and believers mostly take the majority faith of the geographic area they are born into.
The trouble is that these organisations have acquired huge wealth and get their claws into children from birth.
pre 6 godina
",...given to us by God as an eternal pledge." God deals in real estate? Wow, talk about efficiency! A universe to run and still enough time to devote to the heavenly people, though I do get that the concept of time doesn't really exist for the almighty
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 11:49)
Another Albo not too bright. The Jews also believe in the concept of the Almighty giving land to their chosen people, but that does not include Albos LOL.
pre 6 godina
Watcher/Warren Budalo :
What “culture” was “ stolen” from serbs!?
Culture of Genocide?
Culture of War Crimes?
Culture of Crimes against Humanity?
I think 🤔 you have played with yourself a bit too much.
pre 6 godina
he warned that "neither our country, nor beautified cities and villages, nor the economic growth to which we so aspire, nor all the goods of this world, will be worth anything if as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
pre 6 godina
If the US is moving their Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, maybe the Russians should move their Serbian embassy to Kosovo...
pre 6 godina
sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 12:44)
@ nikolle - hmmm, not sure what you mean by "mixed", but since you've "read" the Bible, what does it say about Stealing? Like Land that belongs to others? and culture, does it say anything about stealing others culture? Enlighten us!
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@ joni
Here goes joni again writing fake comments every single day on b92. Every day serbs this serbs that serbs are bad telling serbs what to do how to eat where to sleep bla bla bla bla bla
For your information serbs are indigenous to these lands. albanians on the other hand are not and originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).
(Ratko, 5 January 2018 16:34)
Uaaahahaaa! Ratkovic but where arrive your craziness?
Everybody know that Serbs aren't INDIGENUS in Balkan.
But you that know everything about all - what do you know about yourself?
Indigenous Serbs hahahaaa!!!
Albanians are indigenous in Balkan Ratko, Serbs are not.
How much you can lie yourself?
Remember Kosovo is to Serbia what Jerusalem is to Palestine - The invaders can claim what they wan't but in the history always will remain THE INVADERS who came from somewhere.
I told you! This man is worst than ISSIS, he can't hide for long behind Orthodoxism.
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Just because Slavs invaded Kosova doesn’t make the invaders indigenous !
Slavs are foreigners to Albanians HOMELANDS.
(Azir, 5 January 2018 16:49)
WE HAVE SEIZED THE WHOLE WORLD AND THAT'S WHY THEY CALL YOU SLAVIC "ALBANIA" AND SO IS BRITISH "ALBION" AND AMERICAN "ALBANY", ELBA, LABA, ALBA, BALTI, BALI, ABELI ECT. ALL THOSE WORDS MEAN BELI, BALI = WHITE. IT WAS THE COLOR OF THE GREAT ROMAN-MOGOL-TARTAR HORDE WITH CAPITOL FIRST IN VELIKI NOVGOROD AND THEN IN THE OSMAN EMPIRE (BOGDAD OR TSARGRAD). LOOK HOW MANY SLAVIC AND CAUCASIAN HAPPLOGROUPS YOU HAVE IN YOUR DNA. BALCANS WERE OUR PROVINCE FOR CENTURIES AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS CALLED SO (BALI CANS) - SAME AS BALCANS ON CAUCASUS. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE BELGRADE AS THE CITY OF THE WHITES, TIRANA (TOR HANA), TIRASPOL (TORAS POLE), BELEN ECT.
STOP GOING MAD AND ACCEPT THE REALITY !
pre 6 godina
Azir we are still YAWNING !!!!!!!
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but since you've "read" the Bible, what does it say about Stealing? Like Land that belongs to others? and culture, does it say anything about stealing others culture?
(Watcher, 5 January 2018 16:08)
Why are you so concerned about that, dear? Have you stolen the land and/or culture (whatever that means) that belongs to others and you are afraid now that God will punish you? lol
pre 6 godina
Chi town why keep mentioning my name?
Don’t you notice I am ignoring stupidity?
You make no sense .
Please don’t be a coward and use your real name.I guarantee your safety...
You would have absolutely nothing to worry about.....
Be a real man!
pre 6 godina
Albo trolls, probably out desecrating some graveyards today and shooting some innocent people because of the guns being fired for the badnjak. Today in the blic paper was an article on a woman from Albania who married a Serb and celebrates Christmas Eve and Christmas in peace. Why can’t you be like her and recognize the birthplace of Serbian orthodoxy instead of trying to steal it to traffic heroin?
Merry Christmas all... except the trolls (aka the evil the Bible mentions)
pre 6 godina
Azir, Ancient Serbs or The Moesi was a tribe which inhabited present day Northern Bulgaria and Serbia, which inhabited Moesia (Mysia) therefore Serbs aren't Slavs. Moesia Superior changed name into Serbia after gained independence from Bulgaria which changed name from Moesia Inferior into Bulgaria. When Serbs existed under its name the word Slavs didn't exist. During the Moesia(Mysia) existence Albania was in the Northeast Asia.
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Hristos se Rodi !!!
Today Serbian Ancient Holy Land Kosovo occupied by Islamic terrorist who are supported, funded and armed by the USA, England and Germany ! Our Serbian ancestors many centuries ago founded and established the Eastern Orthodox Christian faith upon the Balkans within the Sacred Heart of Srpsko Veliko Sveto Kosovo and paid dearly with their sweat, blood and tears many times over and over ! Hilly Billy Clinton, Tony Blair and Hitler hold no title to Ancient Serbian territories and properties, no one has the right to steal and take away Serbian lands and give away to bandits, Kosovo was and will always remain within the deepest depth within our humble and pure Serbian hearts ! The measure of strength or power, mortal man proposes but in the end Divine God disposes ! Today when we celebrate Divine God we must remember and never forget our Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters who are currently suffering in their ancient home lands of Sveto Kosovo and Srpska Krajina under the occupation of evil, wicked and sadistic Islamic terrorist and Nazi Ustase ! Land and Liberty, Love your Mother Earth Serbian people, Better we die with dignity and grace standing then perish like slaves on our knees. Bolje Grob Nego Rob !!!
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Trizio
She is not albanian, she is a gypsy from Albania. Nice Propaganda, though. Btw Kosovo is Albanian. Always has been always will be. Its albanian territory,albanian property, and albanian land. You kind belong in the siberian lowlands.
Get out from OUR Kosovo. Albanians will always fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them.
pre 6 godina
This Serbian mullah has become like the boy who cried wolf one too many times. As a matter of fact Albanians are like Jews and Serbs like Palestinians (livada pripada onome čije ovce na njoj pasu).
pre 6 godina
If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
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“Moesia Serb “ you’re drinking again!
Slav Serbs originated outside the Balkans.
Although you continue to occupy Bulgarian 🇧🇬 land your roots are elsewhere.
Your own historians might be able to educate you.
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@ joni
Here goes joni again writing fake comments every single day on b92. Every day serbs this serbs that serbs are bad telling serbs what to do how to eat where to sleep bla bla bla bla bla
For your information serbs are indigenous to these lands. albanians on the other hand are not and originate from mountains around black sea (most likely present day turkey).
pre 6 godina
There goes the magician and the idiots that believe in magic.
pre 6 godina
If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
defending the likes of Azir (an individual who glorifies what happened at the Jasenovac death camp) tells us all we need to know
(njegos, 6 January 2018 16:20)
I did you write anything about any "Azir", dear. That is just a dream that you experienced during the night and now you are confusing it with reality!
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And BTW, how would icj1 know anything about Azir's ancestors?
(njegos, 6 January 2018 16:20)
Same way that our dear friend ChiTown knows lol
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That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17
Hey Azir, I love that a girl has to stick up for you!!! Pretty typical for Albo men I guess. Not only can ice pop out 12 kids, but she can stick up for her man as well.
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Irinej I searched the bible nowhere dose it say Kosovo is the holy land or Jerusalem. Then again you feed Serbs wicked delusions. That Serbs are heavenly people but sadly earthly no good. People like you lead people directly to hell. They will see you in hell Irinej and all lies will end. Reality will take over for all eternity. Mat 23:15
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Priests, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
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LOL! It's seems Albos get stirred up quite easily but look, it's quite simple for you guys. Just go to the United Nations and ask who holds the title to KiM and you'll get your answer. There is no seat there called "Kosova"*** ;-)
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That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
Here's me being icj!!! "I know you are, but what am I". Her best comments are restating your post in question form - way to think for yourself ice, and Azir...
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As his Government voted against Israel and US, supporting the position that Jerusalem is not Israel's capital, these comparations are then to be interpreted from Palestinian position? As in "what is Jerusalem to Palestine etc." this is "Kosovo to Serbia" bla bla. They have quite stable anti-israel and pro-palestinian position in international politics, one could say traditional.
pre 6 godina
he warned that "neither our country, nor beautified cities and villages, nor the economic growth to which we so aspire, nor all the goods of this world, will be worth anything if as a people we are gradually, but surely, disappearing, that is, if we have more deaths than births."
Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
(Reader, 5 January 2018 21:26)
Thank you Reader , I did that and am enjoying living in Serbia 😀
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If I told you once, I've told you a thousand times, at one time you were Serbian Orthodox. Your ancestors were to weak to fight for their beliefs, so they converted to Islam under the sword of the Ottomans, and you never turned back.
(ChiTown, 5 January 2018 20:10)
That's because those ancestors did not have any beliefs about being a "Serbian Orthodox", so it did not make any sense for them to fight for something they did not believe in.
(icj1, 6 January 2018 03:17)
ChiTown was responding to Azir the Coward above and icj1 the Serb-Hater came to Azir's defense. icj1 has distinguished herself as a deceitful lying and fraudulent individual countless times on this forum, but defending the likes of Azir (an individual who glorifies what happened at the Jasenovac death camp) tells us all we need to know about Serb-Hating icj1. You know what they say, you are the company you keep. icj1 and Azir, two peas in a pod.
And BTW, how would icj1 know anything about Azir's ancestors? Maybe the Serb-Hater can answer that question for us, but I doubt it. Cowards like her run away.
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Be a real man!
(Azir, 6 January 2018 19:44
It's Rehan buddy. Look up the meaning....
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"members of true European civilization".
The hypocrisy of this man knows no limits.
Theologically according to Orthodox Church European Civilisation is heretic, since Catholic and Protestant Church are considered heretics.
Historically Orthodox Churches hated European Civilisation members. The very name Eastern Orthodox Church is to distinguish it from the Europeans. They iven invented an alphabet only to distance themselves from Europeans. During Ottoman Empire invasion Orthodox Churches were most of the time obedient servants to the Sultan. Even today Orthodox Churches have better relationship with Muslims than they have with Catholics, nevermind the Protestants.
And someone reminds this "Holy" hypocrite that it was the members of true European Civilisation that bombed the fascist regime of Milosevic when he was committing a genocide and an ethical cleansing in "Holy Jerusalem" Kosovo.
Maybe he should apologise to Kosovo for what Serbia did to Kosovo people before claiming the membership in the "true European Civilisation".
pre 6 godina
Chi town the Budalo:
Why do you fear the TRUTH so much?
You know serbs are dieing out!
Getting rehabilitated is never too late.
Provide your full name and we can make a deal.
pre 6 godina
therefore Serbs aren't Slavs. Moesia Superior changed name into Serbia after gained independence from Bulgaria which changed name from Moesia Inferior into Bulgaria. When Serbs existed under its name the word Slavs didn't exist. During the Moesia(Mysia) existence Albania was in the Northeast Asia.
(Moesian Serb, 7 January 2018 11:40)
WHY NOT TAKE A DAY OUT AND STOP THIS BS?
THIS ONE DAY - PLEASE !
IN RETURN I'LL EDUCATE YOU A BIT.
PS
MENTIONED IN QURAN
*** MOHAMMAD RASUL-UL-ULLAH 4 TIMES
*** ISA THE PROPHET 27 TIMES
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Zoran, Dragoljub, sj, and others, stop wasting time on B92, go back to Serbia, marry a nice Serbian girl, and start making kids.
This is a very real problem for Serbia. Hopefully, the god to which Irinej prays will help you with making kids.
(Reader, 5 January 2018 21:26)
Well both secular and religious laws make it illegal to marry more than one woman. Since I am already married any further marriage would be classified as bigamy, unless you are a Muslim.
The issue of increasing the population is actually very easy to address and that requires the right government policy which I understand is being worked on now.
There is this mentality amongst Muslims that believe if you have enough children they will somehow rule the world. In the past, Albanians in Yugoslavia had 10 or 12 children and what are they ruling today? Only low paid jobs throughout Europe and US.
The secret to ruling is quality not quantity. You can switch off quantity like you turn off water at a tap by reducing food supply. Numbers disappear so does the problem.
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sj
"low paid jobs"
More serbian propaganda as usual. How pathetic can you get. Your country is poor and incompetent and so are your kind. What have serbs contributed as a diaspora now these days? Nothing. You never hear about any so called "successful serbs" since that is complete oxymoron.
And you have still zero control over Kosovo. Despite that twenty years have passed. Zero control,zero authority,zero influence. Nothing. As impotent as serbian men are. A dying nation with no future and a diaspora that enjoys living off western welfare despite they hate the west. That is truly sad....
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Victory1999, 8 January 2018 12:05)
You want to know about successful Serbs, just google and there are plenty starting with Mihajlo Pupin, Karl Malden etc. I was born and live in Australia and there are directors, lawyers, bankers, journalists, academics, TV personalities, high ranking military personnel who are Serbs. The director of the emergency department of a major hospital in Sydney who is a Serb.
I have worked in the finance industry for over 30 years in Australia and South-East Asia and have come across Serbs who are now on boards of directors and GMs throughout the world, but I have never come across an Albanian until I went to Kosovo.
As I said despite having 10 to 12 children in Yugoslavia what have Albanians achieved? Nothing except working in low paid jobs. Its quality you need not quantity.
We just leave Kosovo as is and you will all die out. Over half a million have left and more and more leave every day.
Serbs don't live off welfare but your fellow Muslims do.
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Irinej claims that Kosovo was given to Serbs as an eternal pledge. But I have not found a canonical text to support such a pledge.
Irinej talks about "true European civilization" but Jesus almost completely ignored the powerful Roman Empire throughout his ministry. In one of few statements about leaders/civilization, he instructed the Pharisees to "tell that fox [Herod], Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected." (Luke 13:32)
Rather than telling his disciples to live up to the standards of any society, Jesus taught his disciples to follow the Lord with their entire heart, soul, and mind; and to love their neighbor as themselves (Matt 22:37-29). It is not possible to serve two masters (Matthew 6:24).
Irinej mingles church and civilization in a way that has no precedent in canonical scripture, and certainly not the example of the life of Christ. When I read Irinej and the Bible, I find them to be incompatible narratives.
The problem isn't that Irinej believes in God and the Bible and miracles. The real problem is that he mixes the Word of God with all kinds of other concepts that Christ rejected and yet claims to be a teacher of Christianity and a leader of God's people.
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Christ is Born. Glorify Him!
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start making kids.
reader
Do you mean like Albanians do and then taking their kids to the German borders or Calais in France and abandon them for somebody else to pick the tub.More than 2ooo Albanian children were abandoned in UK alone.
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sj...this guy is a Christian right? Well, I've read the bible, nowhere is Kosovo mentioned there, so the Patriarch has his sources mixed.
(Nikolle, 5 January 2018 12:44)
All Irenej is saying is what Jerusalem is to Jews, Kosovo is to Serbs. All religious leaders use the same style of language referencing God and gifts from God so if you read the text of the Pope’s messages you will see the speech couched in same terminology.
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She is not albanian, she is a gypsy from Albania. Nice Propaganda, though. Btw Kosovo is Albanian. Always has been always will be. Its albanian territory,albanian property, and albanian land. You kind belong in the siberian lowlands.
Get out from OUR Kosovo. Albanians will always fight for what is theirs and what belongs to them.
(Victory1999, 7 January 2018 18:55)
You have lost over 500,000 from Kosovo and give ti a couple of more years there will be none and the best part is Serbia will not have to life a finger LOL.
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Never heard of them, and so has not anyone else. You know why? Because they are all beyond irrelevant. Why do you live in Australia? Why dont you all move back to serbia if serbia so rich and well developed?
And there are many ethnicities that have successful jobs elsewhere including Albanians. What makes you special? You are not. Not even close. And there are many Albanians that have successful careers and high paid jobs not mention higher education in diaspora as well. Funny how you try to paint it black and white, while in reality its the opposite. You are not superior in anything i am afraid. Time will come when your delusions will shatter and you will not like how reality actually looks like
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Never heard of them, and so has not anyone else. You know why? Because they are all beyond irrelevant. Why do you live in Australia? Why dont you all move back to serbia if serbia so rich and well developed?
And there are many ethnicities that have successful jobs elsewhere including Albanians. What makes you special? You are not. Not even close. And there are many Albanians that have successful careers and high paid jobs not mention higher education in diaspora as well. Funny how you try to paint it black and white, while in reality its the opposite. You are not superior in anything i am afraid. Time will come when your delusions will shatter and you will not like how reality actually looks like
(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 14:48)
@ Vicki budalo - lol, YOU challenged sj to who's who in Srb history. You got your panties in a bunch and all butthurt when he TOLD you OUR history with successful Srbs around the world.
That was too funny!
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Chi town why keep mentioning my name?
Azire - I keep mentioning it so you leave this forum, and I'll continue to do it until you do. Oh, and all your other aliases as well. Sretna Nova Godina buddy.... Stop being a Budala and I'll stop mentioning you, deal???
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And you have still zero control over Kosovo. Despite that twenty years have passed. Zero control,zero authority,zero influence. Nothing. As impotent as serbian men are. A dying nation with no future and a diaspora that enjoys living off western welfare despite they hate the west. That is truly sad....
(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 12:05)
@ vicki - why is this truly sad? The way you write, you cannot wait for the Srb nation & people to be wiped off the face of this earth! Why so sad, then? Are you being hypocritical?
I understand Srbija cannot ever be the way "thriving" kosova is...with it's ever growing economy and such, but maybe one day, even Srbija can be 'Europes youngest democracy", no? LOL, LOL
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Do you mean like Albanians do and then taking their kids to the German borders or Calais in France and abandon them for somebody else to pick the tub.More than 2ooo Albanian children were abandoned in UK alone.
(andrew, 6 January 2018 15:13)
That is sad if it is true. I don't mean it like that andrew. I mean it like Irinej means it. Make kids, so Irinej's flock does not dwindle further. You too andrew, go back to Serbia and start making kids :). Like Sasa from Jagodina, who at least, is consistent, and who I applaud. Stop wasting time here on B92, and go make kids :). After making them, don't abandon them like "those nasty Albanians" you talk about but give them to Irinej to care about their spiritual righteousness :).
@sj, I am only reinforcing what your patriarch Irinej is saying. His mentality is the same as those Muslims you talk about apparently :).
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Provide your full name and we can make a deal.
(Azir, 8 January 2018 17:58)
@ azire budalo - there are no deals with you! You are a known idiot with IQ as low as my shoelace.
Next thing you know, ChiTown will be missing a kidney, being sold to rich isreali's...You cannot be trusted.
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(Victory1999, 8 January 2018 14:48)
Well if you have never heard of them I cant help you with your ignorance? Try also googling Milutin Milankovic who was a scientist rated by NASA to be one of 15 greatest minds in history involving earth science. Milankovic was a mathematician who developed a theory on earth climatics pre WW2 and it took until the 1960s to realize what he said was right only after computational calculations were advanced enough to show he was right.
I was born in Australia; my mother is Australian, and my children were born here so why would I move to Serbia? Yes, Serbia is poor but its industrialising again and it will not be poor for long. But the more important question since you were not born in the country you currently live in, why don’t you move back to Kosvoa?
I know that there are many people of different ethnic backgrounds in successful jobs. The last European person I worked with was Polish. However, my first encounter with an Albanian was in Kosovo in 2015.
The only Albanian in a higher educated job I know of in Australia is a university lecturer and there are just over 10,000 Albanians living here.
My little friend time is something Albanians do not have on their side.
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Sj
Then you have not heard of Wilson Kokalari i suppose? He was an Albanian who migrated to the United states during 1940s from Gjirokastra and later on he became a Nasa engineer who was involved in the Apollo 11 program that hepled to put the first man on the moon in 1969(together with other scientists and engineers). He was on of many Nasa engineers.
Albanians are individuals like every one else and not all of us work with "low paid jobs". That is just racism and ignorance. Not a good trait to have
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@sj, I am only reinforcing what your patriarch Irinej is saying. His mentality is the same as those Muslims you talk about apparently :).
(Reader, 8 January 2018 20:09)
There is a huge difference between your Muslims and what Irinej is saying. Irinej is only talking about one place that belongs to Serbia and that’s Kosovo. He does not lay claim to Italy, Greece or Turkey or any other part of the world. Irinej does not go around trying to convert the world to Serbian Orthodoxy by force.
As I said there is a huge difference between Irinej and the message your Muslims want to deliver.
I thought Nikolle asked the question. So you must be Nikolle.
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What great news on Christmas Day, they arrested one of the organ traffickers after a 10 year man hunt. He worked from the clinic in Kosovo and came from Israel. Hopefully the trial will shed light on the rest of the organ trafficking Albanians who turned our holy sacred place into a ghetto of drugs and human organ trafficking.
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reader
Your answer shows lack of basic education,you fail to see the necessity and privilege of having a small family and instead you're dumb enough to insinuate what the prophet said"Allah wants more children to be born".Also Muslims want to produce more children to prove their manliness.I would go as far as to clam that all Muslims are brainwashed and have a hidden agenda.Thats to turn the whole world Islamic by increasing the Muslim population and converting non-muslims to Muslims.
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Lol, “Kosovo is Serb Jerusalem”. Serbs have become pathetic and desperate. Kosovo was Illyrian territory, Greko-Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, a small period of Serbian and Bulgarian rule and then Ottoman territory for 500 years. After that it was gifted to Serbia by the great powers after the Balkan wars. Serbian claims over Kosovo are based on some pathetic Serbian attempt to fight the Ottomans which ended with them having their asses kicked and their women subjugated to sexual slavery, while their young boys were made slave soldiers until they were replaced by their Albanian and Bosniak counterparts. You see the land was never yours since you’ve only been in the region for a little over a thousand years, and to compare it to Jerusalem is insulting as the natives are both the majority in Kosovo and Israel. Serbs are more like the Palestinian leeches who want everything around them yet no sane person would recognise their claim.
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(www, 9 January 2018 11:49)
Milutin Milankovic, Nikola Tesla and Mihajlo Pupin were exceptional figures in history – giants standing on shoulders of humanity. I can name dozens of engineers of Serbian decent that have worked on projects like car, satellite, aircraft and rocket design. Three who worked in the Jet Propulsion Lab in California. A Serb was in charge of the school of Engineering at MIT for 30 years.
It was Victory1999, who said “What have serbs contributed as a diaspora now these days? Nothing. You never hear about any so called "successful serbs" since that is complete oxymoron. “
So if you hide behind racism I suggest you have a nice talk to your fellow Albanian. Victory 1999. Plus, Albanians predominantly work in low paid jobs in the EU. That’s not racism its called fact.
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Next thing you know, ChiTown will be missing a kidney, being sold to rich isreali's...You cannot be trusted.
(Watcher, 8 January 2018 22:12
Watcher, I'm not worried about my kidney, I'm more worried about the organ that hangs between my legs - I think Azir could use this, more for himself, instead of a silly kidney....
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SRETNA SLAVA svima ko slave danas!!!
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Nikola
what about good wishes to everyone everyday not just Serbs
and you dont need Religion to make the point either
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