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Wednesday, 13.12.2017.

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Serbian president visiting Cuba

President Aleksandar Vucic has arrived in Havana, starting his two-day official visit to Cuba.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 05:35)

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:57)

Are you for real? Is that what you got from my post?
(Peggy, 20 December 2017 00:27)

Of course. It was you who wrote that what makes you angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do. You are an example of those people lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 04:28)

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:59)

Has Russia bought CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood?
(Peggy, 20 December 2017 00:24)

I don't know. That's a question you should ask to Russia, CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood. Let us know the answer when you get it...

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj
I have traveled much. I do not need to explain or argue with you. I already know your sentiments. Enjoy them and do not come to America. You are not needed or welcome. Join Peggy in North Korea. Have lots of fun !

Peggy

pre 6 godina

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:59)
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Has Russia bought CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood?

Peggy

pre 6 godina

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:57)
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Are you for real? Is that what you got from my post?

icj1

pre 6 godina

I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> [link]
(Zoran, 18 December 2017 11:05)

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.
(icj1, 18 December 2017 18:37)

how many people do you think a small island like that can accommodate
(ChiTown, 19 December 2017 04:07)

Certainly more than Jordan which is smaller by both population and land area than Cuba, if Cuba really offers such advanced health services.

Anyway, feel free to sort that out with Zoran. It was him/her who dreamed that Cuba "is popular for health tourism", not me.

icj1

pre 6 godina

How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 04:28)

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace

icj1

pre 6 godina

Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 05:35)

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol

sj

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 08:20)
Now you have me confused. If the US is not a true democracy, then why does your government use that word?

I understand the concept of providing a balance between less populated areas and cities since we have the same in Australia. However, how do you account having only 2 parties holding office for more than 180 years and all your presidents have to come from those parties? Its either a democracy or it’s not – one cannot be half pregnant. Italy, France are republics and they are more democratic that the US.

Having to find news from various sources means that the US is similar to dictatorships and authoritarian regimes which control information. That means you don’t have freedom. You can think what you like but as soon as you are a danger to the establishment you are in trouble. ….“most Americans find news from several sources” is exactly what occurs in China.

Most of those middle eastern refugees are not political but economic refugees – meaning they are looking for a better life - and they know which countries they want to go, and the US is not one of them.

I was in the US from August until end of October 2017. I have also spent time in China so I speak from experience.

Travel a little and you will see the difference.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj Your statement is totally false since we in the States live pretty decent life without clock in clock out job.
(We in the States, 18 December 2017 21:30)

Which part is false? Chinese owning a 1/3 of the US? Sadly, that is true.

As far as media is concerned you need to travel outside the US to see what I am talking about because that is also true.


Democracy? How can you have a “democratic system” that in the last 180 plus years has only had Democrats and Republicans in power?

US no longer world economy. Sadly, that is also true; the US was surpassed by China in September 2014.

If working for $4.50 per hour is a decent wage, then I have a different definition of the word decent than you. This is slave wages sold to people like you as the “best in the world”. Its not the best by far.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

@ Ms. Lalich Nobody is jealous of the US and what you consistently bring up here, the fact that many leave Cuba or Balkans is not an argument. It is in fact a straw man fallacy. Proves nothing and don't forget Cubans are people with a great sense of dignity. Yours faithfully, Sken.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 14 December 2017 19:42)
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Sadly, many people from Eastern Europe believe the Hollywood propaganda and shows like Friends is the reality.
Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
So many live on credit cards and are drowning in debt but will take a holiday to their old country and pretend they have it good. No wonder people from Balkans think we are rich and the west is the greatest.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 December 2017 06:05)
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Actually nobody can know how life in North Korea is because NK is so closed off.
We have the media showing us pictures of this or that and writing articles but based on what evidence?
It could be Hell on earth or it could not be. We can only go by what western media writes about it and we all know how much we can believe them.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.

icj - how many people do you think a small island like that can accommodate - especially with limited resources? You need to educate yourself - Cuba is a one of the world leaders in medical research. Simple fact is they don't have the red tape of the US FDA and lobbyists to hinder their research.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 10:40)

Can you explain to me what do you mean by freedom and democracy?
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I think it's freedom to choose your brand of shampoo.
How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
Your mind is shaped anyway they want it but you think you are the one deciding.

Some people just don't get it.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Idemo sve !
Everyone on this site...let's go to Havana and dance to great Cuban music! No Šlivovica, but plenty of rum!
Živeli !

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj...which films are you watching? And as for "middle eastern refugees", they are not necessarily welcome. In case you have not noticed they often do not arrive with good intentions, ANYWHERE! They are not missed. America is a country of immigrants. You can stay home too Darling. Not missed at all.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

George,
THANK YOU !
A little knowledge goes a long way.
And those that use slurs or personal insults show how unsophisticated they are.
Good job setting such people in a better direction!
And good job elevating this site. It needs it. But I put much blame on B92 for allowing "anonymous" commentaries. It brings out the worst, not best, in people.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj...America is a REPUBLIC, not a true "democracy". If you understood the difference it would make sense : areas less densely populated thus do not lose power to a crowded city for instance. It was and remains a brilliant plan, where states can have equal power. Regarding "mainstream" news, you are quite correct. It is ridiculously narrow. But most Americans find news from several sources. Thankfully we have the freedom to do that and use it well, with great arguments and discussions, THAT is freedom.

George

pre 6 godina

Zoran, Around 75 million international guests visited United States of America in 2014 vs around 2 million international guests visited Cuba. But yes there are and there will be always problems in every single country but unfortunately the officials won't to minimize them.

George

pre 6 godina

@ ivan, Spanish–American War resulted in a Spanish withdrawal from the island in 1898, and following three-and-a-half years of subsequent US military rule, Cuba gained formal independence in 1902. Therefore thanks to the ancestors of those what you called sh*t Cuba became an independent country. Now pay more attention on sh*t in your country at first.

icj1

pre 6 godina

I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> [link]
(Zoran, 18 December 2017 11:05)

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.

So, it looks like it's you who, as usual, needs education lol If you start using a bit of critical thinking about things that you read online, that could be a good start in your education since you grew up with propaganda :)

rote

pre 6 godina

Teodor Muzaka If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

IF YOUR GRANDMA HAD A TOOL SHE WOULD BE YOUR GRANDPA ...

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ George

...Now the question is why there aren't Americans in Cuba pretty much everywhere?...

Because the Cubans do not want sh*t in their country!!

sj

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 10:40)

Can you explain to me what do you mean by freedom and democracy?

The days of the US showing leadership is long gone. The Chinese own one third of the US. The money is no longer there; its in Asia.

Democracy? You vote for a President, but your vote does not count unless a couple of people called the electoral collage approve of it. Betty that is not democracy; they call it democracy but it’s not.

Your media is worthy of Stalinist Russia. I have never seen such an insular media – it’s worse than last time I visited the US in the late 1990s. Even the Chinese, and they are communist, have foreign news. I was in San Francisco and Mexico had an earthquake. When I contacted my family in Australia my son told me about Mexico. Nothing on your media.

The US is no longer the financial power since 2008. All you have is debt. They will not tell you that the US is no longer the No 1 world economy.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 December 2017 06:05)

Those days have long gone where migrants arrived in the US, the "land of opportunity", and make a successful life - now its only in films. Even middle eastern refugees don't want to go to the US.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lenard, 15 December 2017 21:04)

I only repeated what Zagreb announced over 4 years ago about closure of military bases over the winter period to save money.

Please leave the BS about making lots of money from tourism. If making money was that easy other more sophisticated countries would have done it long before. If Croatia was so rich LOL then why in the last few years did 250,000 leave Croatia? 50,000 young people left paradise this year alone.
The only reason Croatia has not plunged into an economic abyss is due to access to European Union Funds.

Lenny, I know Croatia was looking at buying the Grippen since your split personality, the one who has poor English skills, announced it a long time ago. But to both Lenards, lads you are grippening something too hard and blood no flow to brain and you dream of fighter aircraft Croatia cannot afford – Plenkovic has said it on your HRTV only on Thursday last week “Croatia has to look for cheaper alternatives”.

If you are waiting for US to give Croatia the F18, the only thing they will give Croatia is the eagle and nothing else. That party is long over – new US motto; you don’t pay, go away LOL.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Zoran.
You have grown up on commie lies.
(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 08:01)
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Dear Betsy, I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Cuba

Perhaps you should start visiting the not so delightful places in the US to get a better picture of your own country and see how people are thrown out of hospitals for not having insurance.

George

pre 6 godina

Betsy, Zoran, out of more than 323 million people in United States of America around 146000 people visited Cuba annually. Simply for the huge majority there are better things to do. Anyway there are Cubans pretty much everywhere in United States of America. Now the question is why there arn't Americans in Cuba pretty much everywhere?

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Last time I checked boats with Cuban people were sailing toward Miami.
Let me know when the boats will sail in opposite direction and I will believe you about the “paradise “ of Cuba.

The only reason you support Cuba is that Cuba is Russian colony and Cuba being Russian stooges don’t recognize Kosovo.

If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Last time I checked boats with Cuban people were sailing toward Miami.
Let me know when the boats will sail in opposite direction and I will believe you about the “paradise “ of Cuba.

The only reason you support Cuba is that Cuba is Russian colony and Cuba being Russian stooges don’t recognize Kosovo.

If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...

rote

pre 6 godina

In 15-17 centuries there were several competing hordes in the region - the Mamelukes, Great Mogols of Iran and the Ottomans. All 3 were ruled by the Slavs but in 1517 near Aleppo (Haleb = Gleb) the mamelukes were defeated and became part of the Ottomans. The Mogols went eastward and resisted for another century but were defeated too. So the Ottomans spread to Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Africa and both America. In Quran it is said that Mohammad was city of knowledge while Ali was the doors to the city. But nobody explained the difference ... And the only explanation about Imam Hossain is not enough for the long lasting confrontation. Also it is strange that after centuries of slavery the Arabs still fear the Iranians but not the Turks. They have good memories about everything that was connected with the empire where they had no rights before 19 centuury ...

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Rote Youu're right, guess these shias and sunnis division is the corresponding division within Islam and I guess its only for control of territory that both sections fight. Somebody wanted to divide so to rule and the saudits and their british masters have their own dirty hands on this. I would solve the whole mess they did with my grandmother's wise words when she saw the first arabs with long beards in our mosque. None of you should ever enter anymore here, she told us. This is not our mosque anymore, but God is Great and he will judge us based on our actions not our words. Old women are so wise!!

rote

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu



CAREFUL IN THE GYM!

AS FOR THE NAMES I SEEK FOR DIFFERENCE IN SHIA AND SUNNI NAMES.
IT CAN BE SEEN IN IRAN, IRAQ, SYRIA AND IN THE REST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD.
LOOKS LIKE THE DIVISION HAPPENED OVER THE TERRITORIES BUT NOT OVER ISLAM.
SAME AS BETWEEN THE CATHOLIS AND THE ORTHODOX ...

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Your words sound like medicine to me my Balkan Brother Drago. God gives God takes away but may God always protect your pure heart and your strong arms. Amin.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Jose Marti was no friend of communism. He looked toward America for leadership on freedom and democracy. Best you do so too Vučić. The commie days are over !

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Zoran.
You have grown up on commie lies. First, Cuban-Americans stripped of everything by the dictator-fascist Castro regime pushed for sanctions on Cuba. Second, no person from the USA would dare risk their health or life in Cuba. There is no freedom there and like all commie regimes, opponents are tortured or go to prison. PLEASE live there. Get back to us.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

To my Balkan Brother Skenderbeu 1444

To live a life with out any scars is a life not lived to the fullest ! Stari Musliman you an old Balkan warrior but this world a new era upon us all ! U Stambolu na Bosforu, may the Sevdalinke brighten your life as they for sure have opened my mind as well as my heart !!!

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Yes Lenny we recall you boasting about the Grippen but Croatia no buy and now its F16, but you have to earn more money.
(sj, 15 December 2017 12:05) sj we took yore advice. Closed the bases over the winters dismissed the troops. With all those tourist every year from Sweden and Israel they left lot's of money. Now we are in the money. I thought the Ru-sky's refurbished the old 6 MiG's for three hundred million. Now Serbia is also working on them indefinitely like I said they make great museum pieces.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Drago Take a look at this https://www.telesurtv.net/opinion/Las-elites-no-tienen-pudor-20170513-0037.html I always read their english edition. Maybe b92 can have future collaboration with them? Maybe, so many money needed for important campaigns and other good things.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Kapella I'm afraid I'll have plenty of time to read on my own imja v korane as well as those of my neighbors since I made a very bad fall on my back a few days ago while practicing my martial arts. This stari musliman had huge pain but Im like the american imperialists who, as Hoxha used to say, even if left with just one tooth, are always able to bite you!!

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY SAY NEVER CARED FOR GAMES THEY PLAY NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY DO NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW...AND I KNOW!! SO CLOSE NO MATTER HOW FAR COULDNT BE MUCH MORE FROM THE HEART...[link]
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 December 2017 13:33)

think about smth positive

http://www.astromeridian.ru/imya/
http://www.sawab.org/tituly-iisusa-v-korane/
http://назвать-мальчика.рф/musulmanskie-imena.htm

Sarma

pre 6 godina

Blue Angel, that's extremely bad idea. That idea will be good with countries which population count is at most six times lesser than population count in Serbia only.

sarma

pre 6 godina

President Aleksandar Vucic should know that Cuba exist thanks to the US recognition and separation from Spain which is similar to Kosovo problem. Ah those double standards by Vucic.

Dragoljub Djurkovic@att.net

pre 6 godina

Guarda tu lengua del mal y tus labios de habiar engano ! Aparte del mal y haz el bien ! Busca la paz y siguela ! Los ojos de Dios estan sobre los justos y atentos sus oidos al ciamor de eiios ! La ira de Dios contra los que hacen mal !!!

P.S. Next time any Serbian Civil or Military leader visit's Latin America please consider me to be the official translator !!!

Zoran

pre 6 godina

I have been there too.
(Betsy Lalich, 14 December 2017 05:57)
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Dear Betsy, it's strange how visiting Cuba is illegal for Americans but so many do visit, especially for medical reasons. So much for your freedom when your country restricts your movement. Cuba would be in a much healthier state if it wasn't for fifty+ years of sanctions but they held out and seemingly value their freedom more than being a US bootlicker. We Serbs can relate to that, we also suffered under sanctions but our freedom is worth it.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY SAY NEVER CARED FOR GAMES THEY PLAY NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY DO NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW...AND I KNOW!! SO CLOSE NO MATTER HOW FAR COULDNT BE MUCH MORE FROM THE HEART...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Betsy,

From your initial comment, "island prison" to "being jealous", to "being caged in".... What's four f***ing point? Stick to the subject or f***off!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Lalich Always resorting to straw men and ad personam, always failing to address the strongest argument..If my arguments dont fit your Bay of Pig-ish world vision, then you start complaining with the page's admins because you're signing and undersigning with your real name the nonsense you constantly utter on this comment section and I acknowledge it takes a good portion of courage to sign some of your asinine statements. Still you fail to address the strongest arguments offered by the counterpart and then I start thinking there's nothing redeemable about you despite all my efforts. And then I feel bad for being so mean to a great serbian woman...Yours faithfully my beautiful Betsy, Hasta la Vista Baby as our croat friend Lenard once said! Make me feel like a real Balkans' man my beautiful Serbiana, answer to me with with these words, the words that changed the lives of millions HASTA.LA VICTORIA.SIEMPRE. ps. every man has a sweet trap to fall into, and you're my trap Betsy. I would love to be like you I just cant as I've seen too much.

sj

pre 6 godina

Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either [link] Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.
(Lenard, 14 December 2017 19:19)

Yes Lenny we recall you boasting about the Grippen but Croatia no buy and now its F16, but you have to earn more money. Plenkovic said today that they have no money and will have to buy very cheap aircraft. I know you can send your old MiGS to Ukraine to be fixed - Ukrainians do the work very cheap.

But sadly for you thewy are still no match for the refurbished Migs is about to put into service. Psst F16 is 40 years old.

sj

pre 6 godina

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .
(Albanian American, 14 December 2017 13:17)

Who gives a toss if Croatia, Albos, Bosniaks or Macedonians do not forget, but the US has already forgotten LOL. They don't give a crap about anyone of those people. If you think they care about Albos then see if they have removed the depleted uranium in Kosova.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sken,
Visit the Cuban island of oppression and get back to us. Bypass the government controlled tourist areas. You are another Soviet indoctrinated fool. Like a captured animal in a cage, you enjoy the comfort of "home".

icj1

pre 6 godina

True, their standard of living is below many countries, but it is still the best in comparison to other Caribbean and some African countries.
(ivan, 14 December 2017 20:26)

What's your point? That Cuba should be proud for being better than some African country like Somalia?!

The weird part is that some people like you praise with words the Cuban paradise, but when it comes to actions (i.e. if they emigrate) their opinion suddenly changes lol

Blue Angel

pre 6 godina

Serbia Should Arm the Cubans with modern weapons and open Visa Free entry with Cuba. Technical and medical co-operation would be a good thing as well. Trade at all Levels would boost Serbian and Cuban GDP.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Ivan Poor pea-sized brain Sken is always right, and you are right also! My relatives who live in America say that americans go to Cuba in order to find a decent dentist, very good health system! Of course it is a country in transition, but only an idiot doesnt understand that communism saved Cuba and other latinamerivan countries from centuries long colonial rule. Communists are real progressive forces and Castro has its place secured among the greatest statesmen of post WW2.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Any comments Lenard ???
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia. Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either [link] Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.
(Lenard, 14 December 2017 19:19)

@ lenardo - why is Croatia buying weapons and airplanes? Aren't you part of NATO and the "World's mightiest Force" will come to your rescue? Shouldn't you be spending your money on making your citizens life better? Just pay the protection fee of "your sovereignty " and live your life...LOL! Your Croatia exists by name only! Leave Srbija alone as we continue to entertain investors and arm ourselves for the defense of our borders! Now get back in the NATO kitchen and get those dishes cleaned...how do you expect Germany, France, Italy to eat??

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ Skenderbeu

You are so right! Cuba's medical and education systems rank along side any western country and then some. The second biggest medical school is in Havana, and students from worldwide study there. In many natural disasters Castro always sends his medical doctors and nurses. True, their standard of living is below many countries, but it is still the best in comparison to other Caribbean and some African countries. However, their education, medicine, and many other social benefits are free. At the very least, Cuba is a paradise country with beautiful people as opposed to the American terrorists who cause havoc around the globe and blame others for it.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Ms. Lalich Nobody is jealous of the US and what you consistently bring up here, the fact that many leave Cuba or Balkans is not an argument. It is in fact a straw man fallacy. Proves nothing and don't forget Cubans are people with a great sense of dignity. Yours faithfully, Sken.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

I don't know but balkans' diaspora are really some of the world's less informed people. Compare Cuba's prompt response to a recent devastating hurricane to what happened in Texas and Puerto Rico. Hundreds of doctors sent from Cuba to Caribbean islands, the world was stunned from Cuba: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/irma-hurrican-cuba-doctors-carribbean-islands-sends-hundreds-castro-a7938171.html Cuba has an amazing healthcare system. Now compare this to the paper towels orange Trump threw to puertoricans who I guess are still without energy www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/10/03/donald-trump-puerto-rico-supplies-von.cnn/video/playlists/trumps-response-to-puerto-rico-crisis/

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Any comments Lenard ???
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia. Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either https://www.total-croatia-news.com/politics/23493-swedish-gripen-and-israeli-f-16-top-candidates-for-new-fighter-aircraft Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 13 December 2017 20:03)

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .
(Albanian American, 14 December 2017 13:17)

@alb amerikan - And what? You think Srb's are gonna forget?
Unfortunately for you, the short memorys of the world are true, as it seems they all are visiting BG to invest!

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Gorbachev made a cardinal sin when he relinquished Europe and abandoned Cuba. He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to. And don't forget that Cuba supports Serbia in every aspect.
(ivan, 13 December 2017 16:47)

You must be filling cube cigars with something else before smoking!!!

Cuba is a prison why as people can not leave, it would be ok if they could not go to USA but they can not leave anyplace. When you visit there they all know of the outside world and would love to leave but can not.

As for Russian base LMAO, by the way they are in UN how is it work out for Cuba people?

icj1

pre 6 godina

He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to.
(ivan, 13 December 2017 16:47)

You are confusing US with Russia, dear! It was Russia that signed an agreement to guarantee Ukraine's territorial integrity and then proceeded to dismember Ukraine...

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ Betsy,

......"You are jealous of America..." Why should I be??!!! Your name Lalich and your comments imply that you might be Serbian, and if so, what has the US done to your country? The Cubans can leave when they want to, it's that the receiving country will not allow them to enter, much like other countries, there are conditions. I have a relative in Serbia who cannot come to Canada not even for a visit because she has no ties to Serbia and might not return. Therefore, according to your ignorant logic Serbia is also a prison. F***off!!!

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 13 December 2017 20:03)

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Ivan,
I have been there too. It is indeed a prison. But having lived in one you don't know the difference ! You are jealous of America. No one is jumping into the ocean from America to reach Havana! Get real !

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

Vucic don't forget to pick up some old decrepit Cuban MiG 29's of course it will cost you. So Serbia can have a big collection for the museum and defend Serbia dual purpose aircraft. Tourist will flock to Serbia [link] to have a good laugh.
(Lenard,

To Lenard
At lest Serbia has fighter planes and are not depending on pigeons to drop bombs on Enemy like your Croat's are doing .Your Croat planes are still getting repaired in Ukranian garage 😀))
Even Cuban planes are better for defending its borders , then your Croatian pigeons )))
Any comments Lenard ???

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Vucic don't forget to pick up some old decrepit Cuban MiG 29's of course it will cost you. So Serbia can have a big collection for the museum and defend Serbia dual purpose aircraft. Tourist will flock to Serbia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo to have a good laugh.

Who

pre 6 godina

@ivan
Russia will soon be setting up their bases just like before

What happened before, didn’t work out? Lol
What makes you think will work now, because you said so? Or are you sure russia can afford to put another base there?

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Who

No, the Russians will not set up bases in Cuba because I said so, rather, they said so. Read the following link. If you notice, Putin and Castro appear to be in love. https://panampost.com/elena-toledo/2017/11/13/reactivation-russian-military-bases-cuba/

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Betsey Lalich:

Don't undermine Cuba, they are not an "island prison." They do not want American garbage in their country and do not want to become a colony. I have been there many times, and yes, life is tough there but at least they have their "freedom from the Americans." Russia will soon be setting up their bases just like before and things will work out for all concerned. Gorbachev made a cardinal sin when he relinquished Europe and abandoned Cuba. He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to. And don't forget that Cuba supports Serbia in every aspect.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Mr. Vučić, after you get a fine cigar and pay your respects, please do give them a talk on democracy and freedom. Cuba is still an "island prison".

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Mr. Vučić, after you get a fine cigar and pay your respects, please do give them a talk on democracy and freedom. Cuba is still an "island prison".

Who

pre 6 godina

@ivan
Russia will soon be setting up their bases just like before

What happened before, didn’t work out? Lol
What makes you think will work now, because you said so? Or are you sure russia can afford to put another base there?

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Vucic don't forget to pick up some old decrepit Cuban MiG 29's of course it will cost you. So Serbia can have a big collection for the museum and defend Serbia dual purpose aircraft. Tourist will flock to Serbia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo to have a good laugh.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Betsey Lalich:

Don't undermine Cuba, they are not an "island prison." They do not want American garbage in their country and do not want to become a colony. I have been there many times, and yes, life is tough there but at least they have their "freedom from the Americans." Russia will soon be setting up their bases just like before and things will work out for all concerned. Gorbachev made a cardinal sin when he relinquished Europe and abandoned Cuba. He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to. And don't forget that Cuba supports Serbia in every aspect.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

Vucic don't forget to pick up some old decrepit Cuban MiG 29's of course it will cost you. So Serbia can have a big collection for the museum and defend Serbia dual purpose aircraft. Tourist will flock to Serbia [link] to have a good laugh.
(Lenard,

To Lenard
At lest Serbia has fighter planes and are not depending on pigeons to drop bombs on Enemy like your Croat's are doing .Your Croat planes are still getting repaired in Ukranian garage 😀))
Even Cuban planes are better for defending its borders , then your Croatian pigeons )))
Any comments Lenard ???

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Ivan,
I have been there too. It is indeed a prison. But having lived in one you don't know the difference ! You are jealous of America. No one is jumping into the ocean from America to reach Havana! Get real !

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 13 December 2017 20:03)

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Any comments Lenard ???
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia. Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either https://www.total-croatia-news.com/politics/23493-swedish-gripen-and-israeli-f-16-top-candidates-for-new-fighter-aircraft Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Gorbachev made a cardinal sin when he relinquished Europe and abandoned Cuba. He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to. And don't forget that Cuba supports Serbia in every aspect.
(ivan, 13 December 2017 16:47)

You must be filling cube cigars with something else before smoking!!!

Cuba is a prison why as people can not leave, it would be ok if they could not go to USA but they can not leave anyplace. When you visit there they all know of the outside world and would love to leave but can not.

As for Russian base LMAO, by the way they are in UN how is it work out for Cuba people?

icj1

pre 6 godina

He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to.
(ivan, 13 December 2017 16:47)

You are confusing US with Russia, dear! It was Russia that signed an agreement to guarantee Ukraine's territorial integrity and then proceeded to dismember Ukraine...

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Any comments Lenard ???
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia. Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either [link] Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.
(Lenard, 14 December 2017 19:19)

@ lenardo - why is Croatia buying weapons and airplanes? Aren't you part of NATO and the "World's mightiest Force" will come to your rescue? Shouldn't you be spending your money on making your citizens life better? Just pay the protection fee of "your sovereignty " and live your life...LOL! Your Croatia exists by name only! Leave Srbija alone as we continue to entertain investors and arm ourselves for the defense of our borders! Now get back in the NATO kitchen and get those dishes cleaned...how do you expect Germany, France, Italy to eat??

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sken,
Visit the Cuban island of oppression and get back to us. Bypass the government controlled tourist areas. You are another Soviet indoctrinated fool. Like a captured animal in a cage, you enjoy the comfort of "home".

Blue Angel

pre 6 godina

Serbia Should Arm the Cubans with modern weapons and open Visa Free entry with Cuba. Technical and medical co-operation would be a good thing as well. Trade at all Levels would boost Serbian and Cuban GDP.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

I have been there too.
(Betsy Lalich, 14 December 2017 05:57)
--
Dear Betsy, it's strange how visiting Cuba is illegal for Americans but so many do visit, especially for medical reasons. So much for your freedom when your country restricts your movement. Cuba would be in a much healthier state if it wasn't for fifty+ years of sanctions but they held out and seemingly value their freedom more than being a US bootlicker. We Serbs can relate to that, we also suffered under sanctions but our freedom is worth it.

sj

pre 6 godina

Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either [link] Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.
(Lenard, 14 December 2017 19:19)

Yes Lenny we recall you boasting about the Grippen but Croatia no buy and now its F16, but you have to earn more money. Plenkovic said today that they have no money and will have to buy very cheap aircraft. I know you can send your old MiGS to Ukraine to be fixed - Ukrainians do the work very cheap.

But sadly for you thewy are still no match for the refurbished Migs is about to put into service. Psst F16 is 40 years old.

icj1

pre 6 godina

True, their standard of living is below many countries, but it is still the best in comparison to other Caribbean and some African countries.
(ivan, 14 December 2017 20:26)

What's your point? That Cuba should be proud for being better than some African country like Somalia?!

The weird part is that some people like you praise with words the Cuban paradise, but when it comes to actions (i.e. if they emigrate) their opinion suddenly changes lol

sj

pre 6 godina

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .
(Albanian American, 14 December 2017 13:17)

Who gives a toss if Croatia, Albos, Bosniaks or Macedonians do not forget, but the US has already forgotten LOL. They don't give a crap about anyone of those people. If you think they care about Albos then see if they have removed the depleted uranium in Kosova.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Zoran.
You have grown up on commie lies. First, Cuban-Americans stripped of everything by the dictator-fascist Castro regime pushed for sanctions on Cuba. Second, no person from the USA would dare risk their health or life in Cuba. There is no freedom there and like all commie regimes, opponents are tortured or go to prison. PLEASE live there. Get back to us.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ Betsy,

......"You are jealous of America..." Why should I be??!!! Your name Lalich and your comments imply that you might be Serbian, and if so, what has the US done to your country? The Cubans can leave when they want to, it's that the receiving country will not allow them to enter, much like other countries, there are conditions. I have a relative in Serbia who cannot come to Canada not even for a visit because she has no ties to Serbia and might not return. Therefore, according to your ignorant logic Serbia is also a prison. F***off!!!

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ Skenderbeu

You are so right! Cuba's medical and education systems rank along side any western country and then some. The second biggest medical school is in Havana, and students from worldwide study there. In many natural disasters Castro always sends his medical doctors and nurses. True, their standard of living is below many countries, but it is still the best in comparison to other Caribbean and some African countries. However, their education, medicine, and many other social benefits are free. At the very least, Cuba is a paradise country with beautiful people as opposed to the American terrorists who cause havoc around the globe and blame others for it.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Ivan Poor pea-sized brain Sken is always right, and you are right also! My relatives who live in America say that americans go to Cuba in order to find a decent dentist, very good health system! Of course it is a country in transition, but only an idiot doesnt understand that communism saved Cuba and other latinamerivan countries from centuries long colonial rule. Communists are real progressive forces and Castro has its place secured among the greatest statesmen of post WW2.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Lalich Always resorting to straw men and ad personam, always failing to address the strongest argument..If my arguments dont fit your Bay of Pig-ish world vision, then you start complaining with the page's admins because you're signing and undersigning with your real name the nonsense you constantly utter on this comment section and I acknowledge it takes a good portion of courage to sign some of your asinine statements. Still you fail to address the strongest arguments offered by the counterpart and then I start thinking there's nothing redeemable about you despite all my efforts. And then I feel bad for being so mean to a great serbian woman...Yours faithfully my beautiful Betsy, Hasta la Vista Baby as our croat friend Lenard once said! Make me feel like a real Balkans' man my beautiful Serbiana, answer to me with with these words, the words that changed the lives of millions HASTA.LA VICTORIA.SIEMPRE. ps. every man has a sweet trap to fall into, and you're my trap Betsy. I would love to be like you I just cant as I've seen too much.

sarma

pre 6 godina

President Aleksandar Vucic should know that Cuba exist thanks to the US recognition and separation from Spain which is similar to Kosovo problem. Ah those double standards by Vucic.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Yes Lenny we recall you boasting about the Grippen but Croatia no buy and now its F16, but you have to earn more money.
(sj, 15 December 2017 12:05) sj we took yore advice. Closed the bases over the winters dismissed the troops. With all those tourist every year from Sweden and Israel they left lot's of money. Now we are in the money. I thought the Ru-sky's refurbished the old 6 MiG's for three hundred million. Now Serbia is also working on them indefinitely like I said they make great museum pieces.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lenard, 15 December 2017 21:04)

I only repeated what Zagreb announced over 4 years ago about closure of military bases over the winter period to save money.

Please leave the BS about making lots of money from tourism. If making money was that easy other more sophisticated countries would have done it long before. If Croatia was so rich LOL then why in the last few years did 250,000 leave Croatia? 50,000 young people left paradise this year alone.
The only reason Croatia has not plunged into an economic abyss is due to access to European Union Funds.

Lenny, I know Croatia was looking at buying the Grippen since your split personality, the one who has poor English skills, announced it a long time ago. But to both Lenards, lads you are grippening something too hard and blood no flow to brain and you dream of fighter aircraft Croatia cannot afford – Plenkovic has said it on your HRTV only on Thursday last week “Croatia has to look for cheaper alternatives”.

If you are waiting for US to give Croatia the F18, the only thing they will give Croatia is the eagle and nothing else. That party is long over – new US motto; you don’t pay, go away LOL.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Who

No, the Russians will not set up bases in Cuba because I said so, rather, they said so. Read the following link. If you notice, Putin and Castro appear to be in love. https://panampost.com/elena-toledo/2017/11/13/reactivation-russian-military-bases-cuba/

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

I don't know but balkans' diaspora are really some of the world's less informed people. Compare Cuba's prompt response to a recent devastating hurricane to what happened in Texas and Puerto Rico. Hundreds of doctors sent from Cuba to Caribbean islands, the world was stunned from Cuba: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/irma-hurrican-cuba-doctors-carribbean-islands-sends-hundreds-castro-a7938171.html Cuba has an amazing healthcare system. Now compare this to the paper towels orange Trump threw to puertoricans who I guess are still without energy www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/10/03/donald-trump-puerto-rico-supplies-von.cnn/video/playlists/trumps-response-to-puerto-rico-crisis/

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY SAY NEVER CARED FOR GAMES THEY PLAY NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY DO NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW...AND I KNOW!! SO CLOSE NO MATTER HOW FAR COULDNT BE MUCH MORE FROM THE HEART...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Jose Marti was no friend of communism. He looked toward America for leadership on freedom and democracy. Best you do so too Vučić. The commie days are over !

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Last time I checked boats with Cuban people were sailing toward Miami.
Let me know when the boats will sail in opposite direction and I will believe you about the “paradise “ of Cuba.

The only reason you support Cuba is that Cuba is Russian colony and Cuba being Russian stooges don’t recognize Kosovo.

If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...

sj

pre 6 godina

(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 December 2017 06:05)

Those days have long gone where migrants arrived in the US, the "land of opportunity", and make a successful life - now its only in films. Even middle eastern refugees don't want to go to the US.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 13 December 2017 20:03)

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .
(Albanian American, 14 December 2017 13:17)

@alb amerikan - And what? You think Srb's are gonna forget?
Unfortunately for you, the short memorys of the world are true, as it seems they all are visiting BG to invest!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Ms. Lalich Nobody is jealous of the US and what you consistently bring up here, the fact that many leave Cuba or Balkans is not an argument. It is in fact a straw man fallacy. Proves nothing and don't forget Cubans are people with a great sense of dignity. Yours faithfully, Sken.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Betsy,

From your initial comment, "island prison" to "being jealous", to "being caged in".... What's four f***ing point? Stick to the subject or f***off!!

Dragoljub Djurkovic@att.net

pre 6 godina

Guarda tu lengua del mal y tus labios de habiar engano ! Aparte del mal y haz el bien ! Busca la paz y siguela ! Los ojos de Dios estan sobre los justos y atentos sus oidos al ciamor de eiios ! La ira de Dios contra los que hacen mal !!!

P.S. Next time any Serbian Civil or Military leader visit's Latin America please consider me to be the official translator !!!

Sarma

pre 6 godina

Blue Angel, that's extremely bad idea. That idea will be good with countries which population count is at most six times lesser than population count in Serbia only.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Kapella I'm afraid I'll have plenty of time to read on my own imja v korane as well as those of my neighbors since I made a very bad fall on my back a few days ago while practicing my martial arts. This stari musliman had huge pain but Im like the american imperialists who, as Hoxha used to say, even if left with just one tooth, are always able to bite you!!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

To my Balkan Brother Skenderbeu 1444

To live a life with out any scars is a life not lived to the fullest ! Stari Musliman you an old Balkan warrior but this world a new era upon us all ! U Stambolu na Bosforu, may the Sevdalinke brighten your life as they for sure have opened my mind as well as my heart !!!

rote

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu



CAREFUL IN THE GYM!

AS FOR THE NAMES I SEEK FOR DIFFERENCE IN SHIA AND SUNNI NAMES.
IT CAN BE SEEN IN IRAN, IRAQ, SYRIA AND IN THE REST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD.
LOOKS LIKE THE DIVISION HAPPENED OVER THE TERRITORIES BUT NOT OVER ISLAM.
SAME AS BETWEEN THE CATHOLIS AND THE ORTHODOX ...

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Last time I checked boats with Cuban people were sailing toward Miami.
Let me know when the boats will sail in opposite direction and I will believe you about the “paradise “ of Cuba.

The only reason you support Cuba is that Cuba is Russian colony and Cuba being Russian stooges don’t recognize Kosovo.

If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...

George

pre 6 godina

Betsy, Zoran, out of more than 323 million people in United States of America around 146000 people visited Cuba annually. Simply for the huge majority there are better things to do. Anyway there are Cubans pretty much everywhere in United States of America. Now the question is why there arn't Americans in Cuba pretty much everywhere?

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Zoran.
You have grown up on commie lies.
(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 08:01)
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Dear Betsy, I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Cuba

Perhaps you should start visiting the not so delightful places in the US to get a better picture of your own country and see how people are thrown out of hospitals for not having insurance.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 10:40)

Can you explain to me what do you mean by freedom and democracy?

The days of the US showing leadership is long gone. The Chinese own one third of the US. The money is no longer there; its in Asia.

Democracy? You vote for a President, but your vote does not count unless a couple of people called the electoral collage approve of it. Betty that is not democracy; they call it democracy but it’s not.

Your media is worthy of Stalinist Russia. I have never seen such an insular media – it’s worse than last time I visited the US in the late 1990s. Even the Chinese, and they are communist, have foreign news. I was in San Francisco and Mexico had an earthquake. When I contacted my family in Australia my son told me about Mexico. Nothing on your media.

The US is no longer the financial power since 2008. All you have is debt. They will not tell you that the US is no longer the No 1 world economy.

icj1

pre 6 godina

I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> [link]
(Zoran, 18 December 2017 11:05)

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.

So, it looks like it's you who, as usual, needs education lol If you start using a bit of critical thinking about things that you read online, that could be a good start in your education since you grew up with propaganda :)

Peggy

pre 6 godina

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:59)
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Has Russia bought CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood?

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Your words sound like medicine to me my Balkan Brother Drago. God gives God takes away but may God always protect your pure heart and your strong arms. Amin.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Rote Youu're right, guess these shias and sunnis division is the corresponding division within Islam and I guess its only for control of territory that both sections fight. Somebody wanted to divide so to rule and the saudits and their british masters have their own dirty hands on this. I would solve the whole mess they did with my grandmother's wise words when she saw the first arabs with long beards in our mosque. None of you should ever enter anymore here, she told us. This is not our mosque anymore, but God is Great and he will judge us based on our actions not our words. Old women are so wise!!

rote

pre 6 godina

In 15-17 centuries there were several competing hordes in the region - the Mamelukes, Great Mogols of Iran and the Ottomans. All 3 were ruled by the Slavs but in 1517 near Aleppo (Haleb = Gleb) the mamelukes were defeated and became part of the Ottomans. The Mogols went eastward and resisted for another century but were defeated too. So the Ottomans spread to Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Africa and both America. In Quran it is said that Mohammad was city of knowledge while Ali was the doors to the city. But nobody explained the difference ... And the only explanation about Imam Hossain is not enough for the long lasting confrontation. Also it is strange that after centuries of slavery the Arabs still fear the Iranians but not the Turks. They have good memories about everything that was connected with the empire where they had no rights before 19 centuury ...

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ George

...Now the question is why there aren't Americans in Cuba pretty much everywhere?...

Because the Cubans do not want sh*t in their country!!

rote

pre 6 godina

Teodor Muzaka If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

IF YOUR GRANDMA HAD A TOOL SHE WOULD BE YOUR GRANDPA ...

George

pre 6 godina

@ ivan, Spanish–American War resulted in a Spanish withdrawal from the island in 1898, and following three-and-a-half years of subsequent US military rule, Cuba gained formal independence in 1902. Therefore thanks to the ancestors of those what you called sh*t Cuba became an independent country. Now pay more attention on sh*t in your country at first.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj...which films are you watching? And as for "middle eastern refugees", they are not necessarily welcome. In case you have not noticed they often do not arrive with good intentions, ANYWHERE! They are not missed. America is a country of immigrants. You can stay home too Darling. Not missed at all.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj...America is a REPUBLIC, not a true "democracy". If you understood the difference it would make sense : areas less densely populated thus do not lose power to a crowded city for instance. It was and remains a brilliant plan, where states can have equal power. Regarding "mainstream" news, you are quite correct. It is ridiculously narrow. But most Americans find news from several sources. Thankfully we have the freedom to do that and use it well, with great arguments and discussions, THAT is freedom.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

George,
THANK YOU !
A little knowledge goes a long way.
And those that use slurs or personal insults show how unsophisticated they are.
Good job setting such people in a better direction!
And good job elevating this site. It needs it. But I put much blame on B92 for allowing "anonymous" commentaries. It brings out the worst, not best, in people.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Idemo sve !
Everyone on this site...let's go to Havana and dance to great Cuban music! No Šlivovica, but plenty of rum!
Živeli !

sj

pre 6 godina

sj Your statement is totally false since we in the States live pretty decent life without clock in clock out job.
(We in the States, 18 December 2017 21:30)

Which part is false? Chinese owning a 1/3 of the US? Sadly, that is true.

As far as media is concerned you need to travel outside the US to see what I am talking about because that is also true.


Democracy? How can you have a “democratic system” that in the last 180 plus years has only had Democrats and Republicans in power?

US no longer world economy. Sadly, that is also true; the US was surpassed by China in September 2014.

If working for $4.50 per hour is a decent wage, then I have a different definition of the word decent than you. This is slave wages sold to people like you as the “best in the world”. Its not the best by far.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:57)
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Are you for real? Is that what you got from my post?

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY SAY NEVER CARED FOR GAMES THEY PLAY NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY DO NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW...AND I KNOW!! SO CLOSE NO MATTER HOW FAR COULDNT BE MUCH MORE FROM THE HEART...[link]
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 December 2017 13:33)

think about smth positive

http://www.astromeridian.ru/imya/
http://www.sawab.org/tituly-iisusa-v-korane/
http://назвать-мальчика.рф/musulmanskie-imena.htm

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Drago Take a look at this https://www.telesurtv.net/opinion/Las-elites-no-tienen-pudor-20170513-0037.html I always read their english edition. Maybe b92 can have future collaboration with them? Maybe, so many money needed for important campaigns and other good things.

George

pre 6 godina

Zoran, Around 75 million international guests visited United States of America in 2014 vs around 2 million international guests visited Cuba. But yes there are and there will be always problems in every single country but unfortunately the officials won't to minimize them.

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.

icj - how many people do you think a small island like that can accommodate - especially with limited resources? You need to educate yourself - Cuba is a one of the world leaders in medical research. Simple fact is they don't have the red tape of the US FDA and lobbyists to hinder their research.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 10:40)

Can you explain to me what do you mean by freedom and democracy?
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I think it's freedom to choose your brand of shampoo.
How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
Your mind is shaped anyway they want it but you think you are the one deciding.

Some people just don't get it.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 December 2017 06:05)
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Actually nobody can know how life in North Korea is because NK is so closed off.
We have the media showing us pictures of this or that and writing articles but based on what evidence?
It could be Hell on earth or it could not be. We can only go by what western media writes about it and we all know how much we can believe them.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

@ Ms. Lalich Nobody is jealous of the US and what you consistently bring up here, the fact that many leave Cuba or Balkans is not an argument. It is in fact a straw man fallacy. Proves nothing and don't forget Cubans are people with a great sense of dignity. Yours faithfully, Sken.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 14 December 2017 19:42)
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Sadly, many people from Eastern Europe believe the Hollywood propaganda and shows like Friends is the reality.
Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
So many live on credit cards and are drowning in debt but will take a holiday to their old country and pretend they have it good. No wonder people from Balkans think we are rich and the west is the greatest.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 08:20)
Now you have me confused. If the US is not a true democracy, then why does your government use that word?

I understand the concept of providing a balance between less populated areas and cities since we have the same in Australia. However, how do you account having only 2 parties holding office for more than 180 years and all your presidents have to come from those parties? Its either a democracy or it’s not – one cannot be half pregnant. Italy, France are republics and they are more democratic that the US.

Having to find news from various sources means that the US is similar to dictatorships and authoritarian regimes which control information. That means you don’t have freedom. You can think what you like but as soon as you are a danger to the establishment you are in trouble. ….“most Americans find news from several sources” is exactly what occurs in China.

Most of those middle eastern refugees are not political but economic refugees – meaning they are looking for a better life - and they know which countries they want to go, and the US is not one of them.

I was in the US from August until end of October 2017. I have also spent time in China so I speak from experience.

Travel a little and you will see the difference.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 05:35)

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 04:28)

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace

icj1

pre 6 godina

I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> [link]
(Zoran, 18 December 2017 11:05)

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.
(icj1, 18 December 2017 18:37)

how many people do you think a small island like that can accommodate
(ChiTown, 19 December 2017 04:07)

Certainly more than Jordan which is smaller by both population and land area than Cuba, if Cuba really offers such advanced health services.

Anyway, feel free to sort that out with Zoran. It was him/her who dreamed that Cuba "is popular for health tourism", not me.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj
I have traveled much. I do not need to explain or argue with you. I already know your sentiments. Enjoy them and do not come to America. You are not needed or welcome. Join Peggy in North Korea. Have lots of fun !

icj1

pre 6 godina

Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 05:35)

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:57)

Are you for real? Is that what you got from my post?
(Peggy, 20 December 2017 00:27)

Of course. It was you who wrote that what makes you angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do. You are an example of those people lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 04:28)

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:59)

Has Russia bought CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood?
(Peggy, 20 December 2017 00:24)

I don't know. That's a question you should ask to Russia, CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood. Let us know the answer when you get it...

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Betsey Lalich:

Don't undermine Cuba, they are not an "island prison." They do not want American garbage in their country and do not want to become a colony. I have been there many times, and yes, life is tough there but at least they have their "freedom from the Americans." Russia will soon be setting up their bases just like before and things will work out for all concerned. Gorbachev made a cardinal sin when he relinquished Europe and abandoned Cuba. He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to. And don't forget that Cuba supports Serbia in every aspect.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 6 godina

Vucic don't forget to pick up some old decrepit Cuban MiG 29's of course it will cost you. So Serbia can have a big collection for the museum and defend Serbia dual purpose aircraft. Tourist will flock to Serbia [link] to have a good laugh.
(Lenard,

To Lenard
At lest Serbia has fighter planes and are not depending on pigeons to drop bombs on Enemy like your Croat's are doing .Your Croat planes are still getting repaired in Ukranian garage 😀))
Even Cuban planes are better for defending its borders , then your Croatian pigeons )))
Any comments Lenard ???

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Vucic don't forget to pick up some old decrepit Cuban MiG 29's of course it will cost you. So Serbia can have a big collection for the museum and defend Serbia dual purpose aircraft. Tourist will flock to Serbia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo to have a good laugh.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Who

No, the Russians will not set up bases in Cuba because I said so, rather, they said so. Read the following link. If you notice, Putin and Castro appear to be in love. https://panampost.com/elena-toledo/2017/11/13/reactivation-russian-military-bases-cuba/

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Any comments Lenard ???
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia. Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either [link] Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.
(Lenard, 14 December 2017 19:19)

@ lenardo - why is Croatia buying weapons and airplanes? Aren't you part of NATO and the "World's mightiest Force" will come to your rescue? Shouldn't you be spending your money on making your citizens life better? Just pay the protection fee of "your sovereignty " and live your life...LOL! Your Croatia exists by name only! Leave Srbija alone as we continue to entertain investors and arm ourselves for the defense of our borders! Now get back in the NATO kitchen and get those dishes cleaned...how do you expect Germany, France, Italy to eat??

Watcher

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 13 December 2017 20:03)

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .
(Albanian American, 14 December 2017 13:17)

@alb amerikan - And what? You think Srb's are gonna forget?
Unfortunately for you, the short memorys of the world are true, as it seems they all are visiting BG to invest!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Ivan Poor pea-sized brain Sken is always right, and you are right also! My relatives who live in America say that americans go to Cuba in order to find a decent dentist, very good health system! Of course it is a country in transition, but only an idiot doesnt understand that communism saved Cuba and other latinamerivan countries from centuries long colonial rule. Communists are real progressive forces and Castro has its place secured among the greatest statesmen of post WW2.

icj1

pre 6 godina

He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to.
(ivan, 13 December 2017 16:47)

You are confusing US with Russia, dear! It was Russia that signed an agreement to guarantee Ukraine's territorial integrity and then proceeded to dismember Ukraine...

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ Betsy,

......"You are jealous of America..." Why should I be??!!! Your name Lalich and your comments imply that you might be Serbian, and if so, what has the US done to your country? The Cubans can leave when they want to, it's that the receiving country will not allow them to enter, much like other countries, there are conditions. I have a relative in Serbia who cannot come to Canada not even for a visit because she has no ties to Serbia and might not return. Therefore, according to your ignorant logic Serbia is also a prison. F***off!!!

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Any comments Lenard ???
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia. Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either https://www.total-croatia-news.com/politics/23493-swedish-gripen-and-israeli-f-16-top-candidates-for-new-fighter-aircraft Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

I don't know but balkans' diaspora are really some of the world's less informed people. Compare Cuba's prompt response to a recent devastating hurricane to what happened in Texas and Puerto Rico. Hundreds of doctors sent from Cuba to Caribbean islands, the world was stunned from Cuba: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/irma-hurrican-cuba-doctors-carribbean-islands-sends-hundreds-castro-a7938171.html Cuba has an amazing healthcare system. Now compare this to the paper towels orange Trump threw to puertoricans who I guess are still without energy www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/10/03/donald-trump-puerto-rico-supplies-von.cnn/video/playlists/trumps-response-to-puerto-rico-crisis/

sj

pre 6 godina

Haven't you heard strawberry patch sasa. Croatia is buying either [link] Swedish Gripens or Israeli technologically advanced F-16 that destroyed Russian obsolete armaments. Either aircraft will blow the old MiG 29's and missile batteries that Serbia is so fond of acquiring.
(Lenard, 14 December 2017 19:19)

Yes Lenny we recall you boasting about the Grippen but Croatia no buy and now its F16, but you have to earn more money. Plenkovic said today that they have no money and will have to buy very cheap aircraft. I know you can send your old MiGS to Ukraine to be fixed - Ukrainians do the work very cheap.

But sadly for you thewy are still no match for the refurbished Migs is about to put into service. Psst F16 is 40 years old.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@Betsy,

From your initial comment, "island prison" to "being jealous", to "being caged in".... What's four f***ing point? Stick to the subject or f***off!!

Albanian American

pre 6 godina

Watcher, 13 December 2017 20:03)

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ Skenderbeu

You are so right! Cuba's medical and education systems rank along side any western country and then some. The second biggest medical school is in Havana, and students from worldwide study there. In many natural disasters Castro always sends his medical doctors and nurses. True, their standard of living is below many countries, but it is still the best in comparison to other Caribbean and some African countries. However, their education, medicine, and many other social benefits are free. At the very least, Cuba is a paradise country with beautiful people as opposed to the American terrorists who cause havoc around the globe and blame others for it.

sj

pre 6 godina

Serbia enemies NONE ? You are confusing B92 website with Santa’s address . You think everybody has the same memory problem as you. Croatia won’t forget, Bosnia won’t forget, Albanians won’t forget, Macedonia didn’t forget, USA won’t forget etc, etc .
(Albanian American, 14 December 2017 13:17)

Who gives a toss if Croatia, Albos, Bosniaks or Macedonians do not forget, but the US has already forgotten LOL. They don't give a crap about anyone of those people. If you think they care about Albos then see if they have removed the depleted uranium in Kosova.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Mr. Vučić, after you get a fine cigar and pay your respects, please do give them a talk on democracy and freedom. Cuba is still an "island prison".

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Ms. Lalich Nobody is jealous of the US and what you consistently bring up here, the fact that many leave Cuba or Balkans is not an argument. It is in fact a straw man fallacy. Proves nothing and don't forget Cubans are people with a great sense of dignity. Yours faithfully, Sken.

Lenard

pre 6 godina

Yes Lenny we recall you boasting about the Grippen but Croatia no buy and now its F16, but you have to earn more money.
(sj, 15 December 2017 12:05) sj we took yore advice. Closed the bases over the winters dismissed the troops. With all those tourist every year from Sweden and Israel they left lot's of money. Now we are in the money. I thought the Ru-sky's refurbished the old 6 MiG's for three hundred million. Now Serbia is also working on them indefinitely like I said they make great museum pieces.

Blue Angel

pre 6 godina

Serbia Should Arm the Cubans with modern weapons and open Visa Free entry with Cuba. Technical and medical co-operation would be a good thing as well. Trade at all Levels would boost Serbian and Cuban GDP.

icj1

pre 6 godina

True, their standard of living is below many countries, but it is still the best in comparison to other Caribbean and some African countries.
(ivan, 14 December 2017 20:26)

What's your point? That Cuba should be proud for being better than some African country like Somalia?!

The weird part is that some people like you praise with words the Cuban paradise, but when it comes to actions (i.e. if they emigrate) their opinion suddenly changes lol

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Lalich Always resorting to straw men and ad personam, always failing to address the strongest argument..If my arguments dont fit your Bay of Pig-ish world vision, then you start complaining with the page's admins because you're signing and undersigning with your real name the nonsense you constantly utter on this comment section and I acknowledge it takes a good portion of courage to sign some of your asinine statements. Still you fail to address the strongest arguments offered by the counterpart and then I start thinking there's nothing redeemable about you despite all my efforts. And then I feel bad for being so mean to a great serbian woman...Yours faithfully my beautiful Betsy, Hasta la Vista Baby as our croat friend Lenard once said! Make me feel like a real Balkans' man my beautiful Serbiana, answer to me with with these words, the words that changed the lives of millions HASTA.LA VICTORIA.SIEMPRE. ps. every man has a sweet trap to fall into, and you're my trap Betsy. I would love to be like you I just cant as I've seen too much.

Zoran

pre 6 godina

I have been there too.
(Betsy Lalich, 14 December 2017 05:57)
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Dear Betsy, it's strange how visiting Cuba is illegal for Americans but so many do visit, especially for medical reasons. So much for your freedom when your country restricts your movement. Cuba would be in a much healthier state if it wasn't for fifty+ years of sanctions but they held out and seemingly value their freedom more than being a US bootlicker. We Serbs can relate to that, we also suffered under sanctions but our freedom is worth it.

Who

pre 6 godina

@ivan
Russia will soon be setting up their bases just like before

What happened before, didn’t work out? Lol
What makes you think will work now, because you said so? Or are you sure russia can afford to put another base there?

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

Gorbachev made a cardinal sin when he relinquished Europe and abandoned Cuba. He trusted the US, a country that does not honor anything they sign to. And don't forget that Cuba supports Serbia in every aspect.
(ivan, 13 December 2017 16:47)

You must be filling cube cigars with something else before smoking!!!

Cuba is a prison why as people can not leave, it would be ok if they could not go to USA but they can not leave anyplace. When you visit there they all know of the outside world and would love to leave but can not.

As for Russian base LMAO, by the way they are in UN how is it work out for Cuba people?

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Ivan,
I have been there too. It is indeed a prison. But having lived in one you don't know the difference ! You are jealous of America. No one is jumping into the ocean from America to reach Havana! Get real !

Zoran

pre 6 godina

Zoran.
You have grown up on commie lies.
(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 08:01)
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Dear Betsy, I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Cuba

Perhaps you should start visiting the not so delightful places in the US to get a better picture of your own country and see how people are thrown out of hospitals for not having insurance.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 December 2017 06:05)

Those days have long gone where migrants arrived in the US, the "land of opportunity", and make a successful life - now its only in films. Even middle eastern refugees don't want to go to the US.

ivan

pre 6 godina

@ George

...Now the question is why there aren't Americans in Cuba pretty much everywhere?...

Because the Cubans do not want sh*t in their country!!

rote

pre 6 godina

Teodor Muzaka If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

IF YOUR GRANDMA HAD A TOOL SHE WOULD BE YOUR GRANDPA ...

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sken,
Visit the Cuban island of oppression and get back to us. Bypass the government controlled tourist areas. You are another Soviet indoctrinated fool. Like a captured animal in a cage, you enjoy the comfort of "home".

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY SAY NEVER CARED FOR GAMES THEY PLAY NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY DO NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW...AND I KNOW!! SO CLOSE NO MATTER HOW FAR COULDNT BE MUCH MORE FROM THE HEART...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGnKpE4NCI

Dragoljub Djurkovic@att.net

pre 6 godina

Guarda tu lengua del mal y tus labios de habiar engano ! Aparte del mal y haz el bien ! Busca la paz y siguela ! Los ojos de Dios estan sobre los justos y atentos sus oidos al ciamor de eiios ! La ira de Dios contra los que hacen mal !!!

P.S. Next time any Serbian Civil or Military leader visit's Latin America please consider me to be the official translator !!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Kapella I'm afraid I'll have plenty of time to read on my own imja v korane as well as those of my neighbors since I made a very bad fall on my back a few days ago while practicing my martial arts. This stari musliman had huge pain but Im like the american imperialists who, as Hoxha used to say, even if left with just one tooth, are always able to bite you!!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

To my Balkan Brother Skenderbeu 1444

To live a life with out any scars is a life not lived to the fullest ! Stari Musliman you an old Balkan warrior but this world a new era upon us all ! U Stambolu na Bosforu, may the Sevdalinke brighten your life as they for sure have opened my mind as well as my heart !!!

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Jose Marti was no friend of communism. He looked toward America for leadership on freedom and democracy. Best you do so too Vučić. The commie days are over !

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Last time I checked boats with Cuban people were sailing toward Miami.
Let me know when the boats will sail in opposite direction and I will believe you about the “paradise “ of Cuba.

The only reason you support Cuba is that Cuba is Russian colony and Cuba being Russian stooges don’t recognize Kosovo.

If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lenard, 15 December 2017 21:04)

I only repeated what Zagreb announced over 4 years ago about closure of military bases over the winter period to save money.

Please leave the BS about making lots of money from tourism. If making money was that easy other more sophisticated countries would have done it long before. If Croatia was so rich LOL then why in the last few years did 250,000 leave Croatia? 50,000 young people left paradise this year alone.
The only reason Croatia has not plunged into an economic abyss is due to access to European Union Funds.

Lenny, I know Croatia was looking at buying the Grippen since your split personality, the one who has poor English skills, announced it a long time ago. But to both Lenards, lads you are grippening something too hard and blood no flow to brain and you dream of fighter aircraft Croatia cannot afford – Plenkovic has said it on your HRTV only on Thursday last week “Croatia has to look for cheaper alternatives”.

If you are waiting for US to give Croatia the F18, the only thing they will give Croatia is the eagle and nothing else. That party is long over – new US motto; you don’t pay, go away LOL.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 10:40)

Can you explain to me what do you mean by freedom and democracy?

The days of the US showing leadership is long gone. The Chinese own one third of the US. The money is no longer there; its in Asia.

Democracy? You vote for a President, but your vote does not count unless a couple of people called the electoral collage approve of it. Betty that is not democracy; they call it democracy but it’s not.

Your media is worthy of Stalinist Russia. I have never seen such an insular media – it’s worse than last time I visited the US in the late 1990s. Even the Chinese, and they are communist, have foreign news. I was in San Francisco and Mexico had an earthquake. When I contacted my family in Australia my son told me about Mexico. Nothing on your media.

The US is no longer the financial power since 2008. All you have is debt. They will not tell you that the US is no longer the No 1 world economy.

sarma

pre 6 godina

President Aleksandar Vucic should know that Cuba exist thanks to the US recognition and separation from Spain which is similar to Kosovo problem. Ah those double standards by Vucic.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Zoran.
You have grown up on commie lies. First, Cuban-Americans stripped of everything by the dictator-fascist Castro regime pushed for sanctions on Cuba. Second, no person from the USA would dare risk their health or life in Cuba. There is no freedom there and like all commie regimes, opponents are tortured or go to prison. PLEASE live there. Get back to us.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Your words sound like medicine to me my Balkan Brother Drago. God gives God takes away but may God always protect your pure heart and your strong arms. Amin.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Rote Youu're right, guess these shias and sunnis division is the corresponding division within Islam and I guess its only for control of territory that both sections fight. Somebody wanted to divide so to rule and the saudits and their british masters have their own dirty hands on this. I would solve the whole mess they did with my grandmother's wise words when she saw the first arabs with long beards in our mosque. None of you should ever enter anymore here, she told us. This is not our mosque anymore, but God is Great and he will judge us based on our actions not our words. Old women are so wise!!

icj1

pre 6 godina

How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 04:28)

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace

icj1

pre 6 godina

I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> [link]
(Zoran, 18 December 2017 11:05)

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.
(icj1, 18 December 2017 18:37)

how many people do you think a small island like that can accommodate
(ChiTown, 19 December 2017 04:07)

Certainly more than Jordan which is smaller by both population and land area than Cuba, if Cuba really offers such advanced health services.

Anyway, feel free to sort that out with Zoran. It was him/her who dreamed that Cuba "is popular for health tourism", not me.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Drago Take a look at this https://www.telesurtv.net/opinion/Las-elites-no-tienen-pudor-20170513-0037.html I always read their english edition. Maybe b92 can have future collaboration with them? Maybe, so many money needed for important campaigns and other good things.

rote

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu



CAREFUL IN THE GYM!

AS FOR THE NAMES I SEEK FOR DIFFERENCE IN SHIA AND SUNNI NAMES.
IT CAN BE SEEN IN IRAN, IRAQ, SYRIA AND IN THE REST OF THE MUSLIM WORLD.
LOOKS LIKE THE DIVISION HAPPENED OVER THE TERRITORIES BUT NOT OVER ISLAM.
SAME AS BETWEEN THE CATHOLIS AND THE ORTHODOX ...

icj1

pre 6 godina

I grew up on western propaganda and have since seen the light. You should probably educate yourself about Cuba. It attracts over two million tourists with most coming from Canada and is popular for health tourism. Check -> [link]
(Zoran, 18 December 2017 11:05)

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.

So, it looks like it's you who, as usual, needs education lol If you start using a bit of critical thinking about things that you read online, that could be a good start in your education since you grew up with propaganda :)

Peggy

pre 6 godina

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 December 2017 06:05)
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Actually nobody can know how life in North Korea is because NK is so closed off.
We have the media showing us pictures of this or that and writing articles but based on what evidence?
It could be Hell on earth or it could not be. We can only go by what western media writes about it and we all know how much we can believe them.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 05:35)

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj
I have traveled much. I do not need to explain or argue with you. I already know your sentiments. Enjoy them and do not come to America. You are not needed or welcome. Join Peggy in North Korea. Have lots of fun !

Sarma

pre 6 godina

Blue Angel, that's extremely bad idea. That idea will be good with countries which population count is at most six times lesser than population count in Serbia only.

rote

pre 6 godina

In 15-17 centuries there were several competing hordes in the region - the Mamelukes, Great Mogols of Iran and the Ottomans. All 3 were ruled by the Slavs but in 1517 near Aleppo (Haleb = Gleb) the mamelukes were defeated and became part of the Ottomans. The Mogols went eastward and resisted for another century but were defeated too. So the Ottomans spread to Asia, Indonesia, Japan, Africa and both America. In Quran it is said that Mohammad was city of knowledge while Ali was the doors to the city. But nobody explained the difference ... And the only explanation about Imam Hossain is not enough for the long lasting confrontation. Also it is strange that after centuries of slavery the Arabs still fear the Iranians but not the Turks. They have good memories about everything that was connected with the empire where they had no rights before 19 centuury ...

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Last time I checked boats with Cuban people were sailing toward Miami.
Let me know when the boats will sail in opposite direction and I will believe you about the “paradise “ of Cuba.

The only reason you support Cuba is that Cuba is Russian colony and Cuba being Russian stooges don’t recognize Kosovo.

If Cuba would have recognized Kosovo all you serbs would have said Cuba is hell on Earth.

I am sure you serbs think North Korea is paradise on Earth too...

ChiTown

pre 6 godina

Well, the link you provided says that about 20 thousand people went to Cuba for health tourism in a year. That's about 0,1% of the health tourists worldwide in a year; 0,1% is hardly "popular". Just one example as a comparison - Jordan was a destination for a quarter million health tourists in a year making Cuba just a rounding error.

icj - how many people do you think a small island like that can accommodate - especially with limited resources? You need to educate yourself - Cuba is a one of the world leaders in medical research. Simple fact is they don't have the red tape of the US FDA and lobbyists to hinder their research.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 10:40)

Can you explain to me what do you mean by freedom and democracy?
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I think it's freedom to choose your brand of shampoo.
How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
Your mind is shaped anyway they want it but you think you are the one deciding.

Some people just don't get it.

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY SAY NEVER CARED FOR GAMES THEY PLAY NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY DO NEVER CARED FOR WHAT THEY KNOW...AND I KNOW!! SO CLOSE NO MATTER HOW FAR COULDNT BE MUCH MORE FROM THE HEART...[link]
(Skenderbeu 1444, 15 December 2017 13:33)

think about smth positive

http://www.astromeridian.ru/imya/
http://www.sawab.org/tituly-iisusa-v-korane/
http://назвать-мальчика.рф/musulmanskie-imena.htm

George

pre 6 godina

Betsy, Zoran, out of more than 323 million people in United States of America around 146000 people visited Cuba annually. Simply for the huge majority there are better things to do. Anyway there are Cubans pretty much everywhere in United States of America. Now the question is why there arn't Americans in Cuba pretty much everywhere?

George

pre 6 godina

@ ivan, Spanish–American War resulted in a Spanish withdrawal from the island in 1898, and following three-and-a-half years of subsequent US military rule, Cuba gained formal independence in 1902. Therefore thanks to the ancestors of those what you called sh*t Cuba became an independent country. Now pay more attention on sh*t in your country at first.

George

pre 6 godina

Zoran, Around 75 million international guests visited United States of America in 2014 vs around 2 million international guests visited Cuba. But yes there are and there will be always problems in every single country but unfortunately the officials won't to minimize them.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj...which films are you watching? And as for "middle eastern refugees", they are not necessarily welcome. In case you have not noticed they often do not arrive with good intentions, ANYWHERE! They are not missed. America is a country of immigrants. You can stay home too Darling. Not missed at all.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Sj...America is a REPUBLIC, not a true "democracy". If you understood the difference it would make sense : areas less densely populated thus do not lose power to a crowded city for instance. It was and remains a brilliant plan, where states can have equal power. Regarding "mainstream" news, you are quite correct. It is ridiculously narrow. But most Americans find news from several sources. Thankfully we have the freedom to do that and use it well, with great arguments and discussions, THAT is freedom.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

George,
THANK YOU !
A little knowledge goes a long way.
And those that use slurs or personal insults show how unsophisticated they are.
Good job setting such people in a better direction!
And good job elevating this site. It needs it. But I put much blame on B92 for allowing "anonymous" commentaries. It brings out the worst, not best, in people.

Betsy Lalich

pre 6 godina

Idemo sve !
Everyone on this site...let's go to Havana and dance to great Cuban music! No Šlivovica, but plenty of rum!
Živeli !

Peggy

pre 6 godina

@ Ms. Lalich Nobody is jealous of the US and what you consistently bring up here, the fact that many leave Cuba or Balkans is not an argument. It is in fact a straw man fallacy. Proves nothing and don't forget Cubans are people with a great sense of dignity. Yours faithfully, Sken.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 14 December 2017 19:42)
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Sadly, many people from Eastern Europe believe the Hollywood propaganda and shows like Friends is the reality.
Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
So many live on credit cards and are drowning in debt but will take a holiday to their old country and pretend they have it good. No wonder people from Balkans think we are rich and the west is the greatest.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj Your statement is totally false since we in the States live pretty decent life without clock in clock out job.
(We in the States, 18 December 2017 21:30)

Which part is false? Chinese owning a 1/3 of the US? Sadly, that is true.

As far as media is concerned you need to travel outside the US to see what I am talking about because that is also true.


Democracy? How can you have a “democratic system” that in the last 180 plus years has only had Democrats and Republicans in power?

US no longer world economy. Sadly, that is also true; the US was surpassed by China in September 2014.

If working for $4.50 per hour is a decent wage, then I have a different definition of the word decent than you. This is slave wages sold to people like you as the “best in the world”. Its not the best by far.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Betsy Lalich, 16 December 2017 08:20)
Now you have me confused. If the US is not a true democracy, then why does your government use that word?

I understand the concept of providing a balance between less populated areas and cities since we have the same in Australia. However, how do you account having only 2 parties holding office for more than 180 years and all your presidents have to come from those parties? Its either a democracy or it’s not – one cannot be half pregnant. Italy, France are republics and they are more democratic that the US.

Having to find news from various sources means that the US is similar to dictatorships and authoritarian regimes which control information. That means you don’t have freedom. You can think what you like but as soon as you are a danger to the establishment you are in trouble. ….“most Americans find news from several sources” is exactly what occurs in China.

Most of those middle eastern refugees are not political but economic refugees – meaning they are looking for a better life - and they know which countries they want to go, and the US is not one of them.

I was in the US from August until end of October 2017. I have also spent time in China so I speak from experience.

Travel a little and you will see the difference.

Peggy

pre 6 godina

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:59)
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Has Russia bought CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood?

Peggy

pre 6 godina

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:57)
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Are you for real? Is that what you got from my post?

icj1

pre 6 godina

Yes, it is reality for some but for a huge number it isn't and they only find that out once they move to the US or Australia.
Many leave their homeland only to work from morning till night and are too tired to have a life.
Many have to take jobs which are below their education or experience. It's not all puppies and rainbows.
What makes me angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 05:35)

So, that means you are angry with yourself! lol
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:57)

Are you for real? Is that what you got from my post?
(Peggy, 20 December 2017 00:27)

Of course. It was you who wrote that what makes you angry is that people who live in the west and don't have a good life keep pretending that they do. You are an example of those people lol

icj1

pre 6 godina

How can you have freedom of choice when all your information is what they want you to know? Unless you are fully informed you really don't have any freedom or democracy.
(Peggy, 19 December 2017 04:28)

You provided the perfect description of Russia's populace
(icj1, 19 December 2017 21:59)

Has Russia bought CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood?
(Peggy, 20 December 2017 00:24)

I don't know. That's a question you should ask to Russia, CNN, BBC, NBC, ABC, New York Times, The Washington Post and Hollywood. Let us know the answer when you get it...