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Monday, 27.11.2017.

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Pristina has "at least 7 or 8 bogus recognitions" - Dacic

Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic says the list of countries that have recognized Kosovo contains "at least seven or eight made up recognitions."

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icj1

pre 6 godina

Dacic is doing AWESOME. THAT is EXACTLY why he is being paid...
(Watcher, 27 November 2017 16:11)

According to Ivica, he is paid to make a certain "Pacolli" angry. Not sure how that helps the poor Serbia's taxpayers who pay Ivica's salary... but, hey, if you're happy wasting Serbia's taxpayer money, I'm happy that you are happy :)

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

9 dislikes already? 9 smart albanians and serbs were waiting for me to reply to my colleague and friend from Serbia? People you're really sick and you really have nothing better to do in your lives besides spying if Sken makes a little harmless anti-imperialist fart online!! Happy Independence Day Azir and don't forget tironc expression: Love Albania as much as Albanians love America! Duajeni Shqiperine sic duan shqiptaret Ameriken! Amin!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

At the beginning you live in your parents house, waiting for them to depart from this world :) if not, you find a job for your wife and take a loan in bank for a small apartment. @ Worry its simple, we had socialist system that provided job and housing for free to everybody. No good we wanted capitalism and this is capitalism. Get used to it. Now you can find everything you want in the free market, the only thing you'll never find is another mother and another father who are the only ones who will always love our ungrateful asses and make you live with them without paying a cent. Wise words words of gold spoken from crazy Sken!

Ivana

pre 6 godina

Kosovo is much poorer and has even bigger problems than Serbia, so maybe they should give us example and start solving real problems an give up on their independence.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lol, 27 November 2017 16:42)

If its old equipment why are you so worried? The US F18 design goes back to 1978 so its not the age but the electronics inside the craft mate.

But on the issue of NATO, Serbia never plans to deal with NATO because we will leave that to the Russians who at present strength can walk over NATO in less than 48 hours in the Baltics and about a week to disable the rest.

We need the aircraft to deal with Albanians, Croats and Bosniaks.

If living standards are getting worse in Serbia then I’d hate to live in Kosova or Croatia because no one has even opened a can of soda there let alone any industry. Yesterday, at the Budapest conference, hosted by China, Serbia got the lion’s share of proposed Chinese investment while Croatia has to negotiate its meagre offerings. You should have watched last night’s HRTV Dnevnik to see their disappointment.

Bob

pre 6 godina

Oh no again this stupid fat boy speaking what a idiot. Stop wasting millions of dollars against Kosovo independence because your startegy aginst Kosova independence is not working so take those millions of dollars fiit your own poor Serbian people.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ azir, I mean victory 99- Lol, you’re a pretty stupid guy! I mean, stupid!! Not just dumb, but really really stupid!
I don’t think you even know what you write.. I’m pretty sure majority of Albanians disagree with your stupid writing!
You write like you have control over your destiny!
You will do as your masters tell you, nothing more, nothing less! If Washington tells you to bend over for BG, you will bend over and you will like it, got it? Your future lies in the outcome of wheeling and dealing between Washington and Moscow ... it will be what they determine for both BG and your do-called “Kosova”....and it doesn’t look favorable for YOU!
You should take the advantage to talk direct with BG and come up with SOMETHING... idiot!

Worry about Serbia

pre 6 godina

@ Worry about Serbia I also wanted to work in a physics research institute in albania but they pay miserable salaries. 300 or 400 for an engineer is not bad if you don't have a rent for the house to pay.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 27 November 2017 20:11)

So you want us to live in parents house you crazy,

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Watcher

There will be no agreement with belgrad. You are gypsies and we rather watch you perish in a nuclear firestorm than shaking your Aids infested hands about worthless "agreements". We dont like you or have anything to do with you. There will be nothing. We rule our own country as it fits us and we dont take orders from subhuman trash(serbs) to tell us what to do. Get that through your skull. You cant make us to sign any "agreements" at all.You are in no position to tell us what to do. Thats the reality you still have not accepted. You are a thing of the past and will remain such as well in the future

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Worry about Serbia I also wanted to work in a physics research institute in albania but they pay miserable salaries. 300 or 400 for an engineer is not bad if you don't have a rent for the house to pay. Its all proportionate to the cost of living. In Germany or Austria of course you would earn more but Europe now doesn't offer a better living standard. I write this because I've seen hundreds of engineers and economists who earned their degrees in European countries but couldnt find a job or life was too expensive and are moving back to Albania. Also consider that many of the new investments are long term ones which means it would take at least 5-7 years to see if they have any positive effect on the economy or not. What we need instead are strong unions and professional organizations that really fight for higher wages. Everybody in the region is shrinking. No more Tito and Hoxha to give medals to heroine mothers of 4-5 children. Modern women can barely give birth to a child, maximum maximum 2, they care about their body and who can really blame them?

sarma

pre 6 godina

Dacic at first you guys have to fix this: Serbia records lowest birth rate in last 100 years. Only 64,734 babies were born in Serbia in 2016. There are plenty of ways to fix that literally overnight.

Worry about Serbia

pre 6 godina

In 2017, Serbia has 7.05 million inhabitants in the statistical office, and in reality about 6.9 million inhabitants.

Every year, because of a negative natural increase, we remain without 40,000 people and another 10,000 are net-moving - a modest estimate. That's a total of 50,000 a year.
What will it say that Serbia will lose 1.5 million inhabitants in 30 years and will have:
6.9 - 1.5 = 5.4 million inhabitants if not less.
Thank the politicians and your indifference to their plundering!

I dont get it Serbia is awesome if you live in Germany or Austrlia and come over summer and everything is cheap but not for those living here and not part of some Political gang.

An investment that everyone talks are good but they pay shit wages this is why they come here, to pay 300 to 400 for an engineer. I am a Researcher in Novi Sad for Schnider and its sad what they pay, a coworker in Hungary makes 3X more welcome to Europes low wage central.

If I move to France or Germany my life will improve so easy to be natinalist when living abroad.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

lol, one day saying Suriname revoking recognition doesn't matter, next day having an orgasm with Magadascar "supposed" recognition:)
What's the difference??? Nobody will invest in you until BG has a deal with you!! You've tried EVERYTHING to strongarm BG to "recognize", nothing works! You STILL don't get it?? You are destined to remain stagnant, no future for your young, no opportunities until BG LEGALLY can't push back...and that can ONLY come with an "agreement" with BEOGRAD, not WASHINGTON, LONDON, MOSCOW, ANKARA, ETC....only BEOGRAD!! What part of this do you not understand?? The "international" voices "fighting" on your behalf are just that..noise! Trust me, they are looking for a way to save face and cover up their "oops" and as soon as BG gives them an opening, they're going for it...Trust me, they won't even sk you! Don't believe me?...ask the Kurds! or Palastinians! or Iraqis! or (fill in the blank)......Smell the coffee!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ what a joke - Exactly, what a joke of a comment! Dacic is doing AWESOME. THAT is EXACTLY why he is being paid...to defend the integrity of SERBIA!
And I think that you're just plain wrong, We are not worried about Kosovo like you think, it's YOU guys that are frantic...not knowing what else to do so you attack the growing economy of Serbia and then attack Dacic for doing what every proud experienced politician should do...protect his own country. Your concern should be what are YOUR politicians doing to protect YOUR interests, not what Dacic is doing for HIS country!! I think you guys are going in circles....my humble opinion;)

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Let’s assume that Dacic is right and 8 recognitions are bogus.
But what about the other 107?

Madagascar recognition is real not fake and you can verify it very easily.

Anyway as long as USA doesn’t revoke her recognition I feel very comfortable about the independence of Kosovo.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 6 godina

Surely all those recognitions would have cleared the path for investment????? Where is the US?
(sj, 27 November 2017 11:07) # Comment link

Good question. This country completely rebuilt itself after Serbia burned it to the ground. You should visit any large metro and you can see for yourself. The Kosovan economy has been growing at a rapid pace and it's charging full steam ahead.


Sincerely,

sj

pre 6 godina

(Victory1999, 27 November 2017 12:31

I don’t live in Serbia because I was not born there. I only mention investment because that is how a country manages to lift its economy and living standards. I know its hard for you to understand since most of you people only deal with goats and donkeys.

I hope it continues to, as you say, suck because Kosova is not going anywhere while Serbia is moving ahead LOL.

I hate to disappoint you but the king of welfare are your fellow Muslims, but let me tell you in the 31 years of working in the finance industry throughout Asia and earlier in my career Europe for a short time, I have come across all kinds of people. I have met many Serbs in that industry. The first time I ever met an Albanian was in 2015 when I went to Kosovo.

From pleading to threats to name calling it must really hurt what Serbia is doing to your lot LOL. Enjoy it.

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

1. Dacic are you comparing Serbia to China?
Also, there is a big difference between Kosovo and Taiwan. Taiwan considered it's self as the rightful Chinese gov and it was recognized as China, after 1979 you could not recognize two chinas and Taiwan never declared independence. Its like Kosovo was the rightful ruler of Serbia.

There was a document released by Madagascar just do a search Dacic google it!

from nov 23 2016:

[https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=11&dd=23&nav_id=99769]

Look the truth is this is distraction, after all, Surinam and Madagascar what does it have to do with Serbia or Kosovo how much do they have a relationship, but these clowns from both sides have to distract somehow.

But Dacic wants to see how he can stay in power for 10more years with bullshit, if it makes him happy ok good for him.

All this now is about North what will happen and how much self-rule those 40K Serbs will get, its not Taiwan or two Germanys as this is not issue between same people!

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

One thing that defiantly not a bogus and is crystal clear to everyone, is the fact that Serbia hasn't had any type of authority over "TROK" in almost 20 years!
That is indisputable!!!

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Sj

Why are you not living in serbia if all those "investments"( only thing you can brag about since your nation sucks in everything else) are "helping" "improving" your rathole?

That rights. That western welfare is something servs enjoy to live off since they cant do anything else. And bragging about investments is something african countries do, not european countries. But since serbia is the bottom of the barrel in everything, offcourse investments is the only thing they can mention despite servs are still leaving their country to move to the west and live off welfare like the parasites they are.....

sj

pre 6 godina

You have to change. Kosovo is indipendent. Accept it. And let's work together and solve our real problems,for a better life for your people.. And not the imaginary ones (kosovo) which ones dacic is using to hide his corruption
(What a joke, 27 November 2017 10:34)

No, its not going to happen. Kosovo stays where it is – stagnant and not moving anywhere.

Your problem is that Serbia is attracting big time investment while your Albanians have to leave Kosovo. This is not Yugoslavia and Serbs don’t give a fig any more about problems that your Albanians are having.

Surely all those recognitions would have cleared the path for investment????? Where is the US?

lawyer

pre 6 godina

"In order to do this, the other side should accept to talk. And Pristina thinks that there is nothing to talk about and that, as they say, independence is irreversible. It turned out that this is not true. Taiwan was at one time recognized by more than 80 countries, and now that number is very small," Dacic said.

It is sad to see the Serbian MFA comparing small Serbia to huge China. Taiwan lost the recognitions because China launched its One-China Policy and conditioned diplomatic relations with the de-recognition of Taiwan. There could not be two countries representing the Chinese people in the UN. This is totally different from the Serbia-Kosovo problem and this should be acknowledged. Stop lying to your own people with such stupidities, please. This is really sad.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Yes,yes keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better you fat pig. You will never see Kosovo back again since it was never yours to begin with and you can forget about anything else. Twenty years have passed and you still have zero control,zero authority,zero power and zero influence over Kosovo and its citizens. You are beyond pathetic. Admit that serbs are the biggest losers in world history and a failure of a race. Failed in everything and yet they think they are the center of the universe. HA!

What a joke

pre 6 godina

What a clown.. Serbia please open your eyes. You have alot of real problems . Serbia is poor ,discrimination and attacks against minorities, especially Roma, threats against media freedom, an inefficient judicial system, and long periods of pretrial detention as key human rights issues facing the country. Etc
Do you give him a salary to solve your real problems. Or to travel all the day long , to steal money . And to talk all the time about kosovo ,while serbs have no jobs , and alot of problems..
Look, france and germany work together and are developed. They are not stupid like Dacic. With the Dacic mentality you know very well that there will be no EU. Europe can lie you all your lifetime by opening chapters (Turkey opened 20 chapters ) . You have to change. Kosovo is indipendent. Accept it. And let's work together and solve our real problems,for a better life for your people.. And not the imaginary ones (kosovo) which ones dacic is using to hide his corruption

Windmill

pre 6 godina

The note from Madagascar is written, certified, and can be easily found and read online, making their recognition is 100% legit. Your problem is that you are trying hopelessly in a quixotic quest to undermine the legitimacy of an independence that is recognized by the makers of this world order. Neither you, as the representative of a minuscule and laughable diplomacy, nor your bigger but still inferior allies, can undermine the recognition legitimacy that naturally comes from top world powers. The only people naive enough to fall for your delusions are toothless voters in remote Serbian counties where reality has stopped being current many decades ago. Which shows the level of desperation that you must be in to cater to those type of voters. What is it, can't win the next election without relying on deeply uneducated masses? Madagascar is only one of many more recognitions that are coming in soon. And your voters will blame you for this boomerang, just like they blamed Jeremic when the ICJ told him how things are.

What a joke

pre 6 godina

What a clown.. Serbia please open your eyes. You have alot of real problems . Serbia is poor ,discrimination and attacks against minorities, especially Roma, threats against media freedom, an inefficient judicial system, and long periods of pretrial detention as key human rights issues facing the country. Etc
Do you give him a salary to solve your real problems. Or to travel all the day long , to steal money . And to talk all the time about kosovo ,while serbs have no jobs , and alot of problems..
Look, france and germany work together and are developed. They are not stupid like Dacic. With the Dacic mentality you know very well that there will be no EU. Europe can lie you all your lifetime by opening chapters (Turkey opened 20 chapters ) . You have to change. Kosovo is indipendent. Accept it. And let's work together and solve our real problems,for a better life for your people.. And not the imaginary ones (kosovo) which ones dacic is using to hide his corruption

Windmill

pre 6 godina

The note from Madagascar is written, certified, and can be easily found and read online, making their recognition is 100% legit. Your problem is that you are trying hopelessly in a quixotic quest to undermine the legitimacy of an independence that is recognized by the makers of this world order. Neither you, as the representative of a minuscule and laughable diplomacy, nor your bigger but still inferior allies, can undermine the recognition legitimacy that naturally comes from top world powers. The only people naive enough to fall for your delusions are toothless voters in remote Serbian counties where reality has stopped being current many decades ago. Which shows the level of desperation that you must be in to cater to those type of voters. What is it, can't win the next election without relying on deeply uneducated masses? Madagascar is only one of many more recognitions that are coming in soon. And your voters will blame you for this boomerang, just like they blamed Jeremic when the ICJ told him how things are.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Sj

Why are you not living in serbia if all those "investments"( only thing you can brag about since your nation sucks in everything else) are "helping" "improving" your rathole?

That rights. That western welfare is something servs enjoy to live off since they cant do anything else. And bragging about investments is something african countries do, not european countries. But since serbia is the bottom of the barrel in everything, offcourse investments is the only thing they can mention despite servs are still leaving their country to move to the west and live off welfare like the parasites they are.....

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Yes,yes keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better you fat pig. You will never see Kosovo back again since it was never yours to begin with and you can forget about anything else. Twenty years have passed and you still have zero control,zero authority,zero power and zero influence over Kosovo and its citizens. You are beyond pathetic. Admit that serbs are the biggest losers in world history and a failure of a race. Failed in everything and yet they think they are the center of the universe. HA!

sj

pre 6 godina

(Victory1999, 27 November 2017 12:31

I don’t live in Serbia because I was not born there. I only mention investment because that is how a country manages to lift its economy and living standards. I know its hard for you to understand since most of you people only deal with goats and donkeys.

I hope it continues to, as you say, suck because Kosova is not going anywhere while Serbia is moving ahead LOL.

I hate to disappoint you but the king of welfare are your fellow Muslims, but let me tell you in the 31 years of working in the finance industry throughout Asia and earlier in my career Europe for a short time, I have come across all kinds of people. I have met many Serbs in that industry. The first time I ever met an Albanian was in 2015 when I went to Kosovo.

From pleading to threats to name calling it must really hurt what Serbia is doing to your lot LOL. Enjoy it.

sj

pre 6 godina

You have to change. Kosovo is indipendent. Accept it. And let's work together and solve our real problems,for a better life for your people.. And not the imaginary ones (kosovo) which ones dacic is using to hide his corruption
(What a joke, 27 November 2017 10:34)

No, its not going to happen. Kosovo stays where it is – stagnant and not moving anywhere.

Your problem is that Serbia is attracting big time investment while your Albanians have to leave Kosovo. This is not Yugoslavia and Serbs don’t give a fig any more about problems that your Albanians are having.

Surely all those recognitions would have cleared the path for investment????? Where is the US?

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Let’s assume that Dacic is right and 8 recognitions are bogus.
But what about the other 107?

Madagascar recognition is real not fake and you can verify it very easily.

Anyway as long as USA doesn’t revoke her recognition I feel very comfortable about the independence of Kosovo.

lawyer

pre 6 godina

"In order to do this, the other side should accept to talk. And Pristina thinks that there is nothing to talk about and that, as they say, independence is irreversible. It turned out that this is not true. Taiwan was at one time recognized by more than 80 countries, and now that number is very small," Dacic said.

It is sad to see the Serbian MFA comparing small Serbia to huge China. Taiwan lost the recognitions because China launched its One-China Policy and conditioned diplomatic relations with the de-recognition of Taiwan. There could not be two countries representing the Chinese people in the UN. This is totally different from the Serbia-Kosovo problem and this should be acknowledged. Stop lying to your own people with such stupidities, please. This is really sad.

Worry about Serbia

pre 6 godina

In 2017, Serbia has 7.05 million inhabitants in the statistical office, and in reality about 6.9 million inhabitants.

Every year, because of a negative natural increase, we remain without 40,000 people and another 10,000 are net-moving - a modest estimate. That's a total of 50,000 a year.
What will it say that Serbia will lose 1.5 million inhabitants in 30 years and will have:
6.9 - 1.5 = 5.4 million inhabitants if not less.
Thank the politicians and your indifference to their plundering!

I dont get it Serbia is awesome if you live in Germany or Austrlia and come over summer and everything is cheap but not for those living here and not part of some Political gang.

An investment that everyone talks are good but they pay shit wages this is why they come here, to pay 300 to 400 for an engineer. I am a Researcher in Novi Sad for Schnider and its sad what they pay, a coworker in Hungary makes 3X more welcome to Europes low wage central.

If I move to France or Germany my life will improve so easy to be natinalist when living abroad.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Watcher

There will be no agreement with belgrad. You are gypsies and we rather watch you perish in a nuclear firestorm than shaking your Aids infested hands about worthless "agreements". We dont like you or have anything to do with you. There will be nothing. We rule our own country as it fits us and we dont take orders from subhuman trash(serbs) to tell us what to do. Get that through your skull. You cant make us to sign any "agreements" at all.You are in no position to tell us what to do. Thats the reality you still have not accepted. You are a thing of the past and will remain such as well in the future

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

One thing that defiantly not a bogus and is crystal clear to everyone, is the fact that Serbia hasn't had any type of authority over "TROK" in almost 20 years!
That is indisputable!!!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

lol, one day saying Suriname revoking recognition doesn't matter, next day having an orgasm with Magadascar "supposed" recognition:)
What's the difference??? Nobody will invest in you until BG has a deal with you!! You've tried EVERYTHING to strongarm BG to "recognize", nothing works! You STILL don't get it?? You are destined to remain stagnant, no future for your young, no opportunities until BG LEGALLY can't push back...and that can ONLY come with an "agreement" with BEOGRAD, not WASHINGTON, LONDON, MOSCOW, ANKARA, ETC....only BEOGRAD!! What part of this do you not understand?? The "international" voices "fighting" on your behalf are just that..noise! Trust me, they are looking for a way to save face and cover up their "oops" and as soon as BG gives them an opening, they're going for it...Trust me, they won't even sk you! Don't believe me?...ask the Kurds! or Palastinians! or Iraqis! or (fill in the blank)......Smell the coffee!

L*O*G*I*C

pre 6 godina

Surely all those recognitions would have cleared the path for investment????? Where is the US?
(sj, 27 November 2017 11:07) # Comment link

Good question. This country completely rebuilt itself after Serbia burned it to the ground. You should visit any large metro and you can see for yourself. The Kosovan economy has been growing at a rapid pace and it's charging full steam ahead.


Sincerely,

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Worry about Serbia I also wanted to work in a physics research institute in albania but they pay miserable salaries. 300 or 400 for an engineer is not bad if you don't have a rent for the house to pay. Its all proportionate to the cost of living. In Germany or Austria of course you would earn more but Europe now doesn't offer a better living standard. I write this because I've seen hundreds of engineers and economists who earned their degrees in European countries but couldnt find a job or life was too expensive and are moving back to Albania. Also consider that many of the new investments are long term ones which means it would take at least 5-7 years to see if they have any positive effect on the economy or not. What we need instead are strong unions and professional organizations that really fight for higher wages. Everybody in the region is shrinking. No more Tito and Hoxha to give medals to heroine mothers of 4-5 children. Modern women can barely give birth to a child, maximum maximum 2, they care about their body and who can really blame them?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ what a joke - Exactly, what a joke of a comment! Dacic is doing AWESOME. THAT is EXACTLY why he is being paid...to defend the integrity of SERBIA!
And I think that you're just plain wrong, We are not worried about Kosovo like you think, it's YOU guys that are frantic...not knowing what else to do so you attack the growing economy of Serbia and then attack Dacic for doing what every proud experienced politician should do...protect his own country. Your concern should be what are YOUR politicians doing to protect YOUR interests, not what Dacic is doing for HIS country!! I think you guys are going in circles....my humble opinion;)

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

1. Dacic are you comparing Serbia to China?
Also, there is a big difference between Kosovo and Taiwan. Taiwan considered it's self as the rightful Chinese gov and it was recognized as China, after 1979 you could not recognize two chinas and Taiwan never declared independence. Its like Kosovo was the rightful ruler of Serbia.

There was a document released by Madagascar just do a search Dacic google it!

from nov 23 2016:

[https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=11&dd=23&nav_id=99769]

Look the truth is this is distraction, after all, Surinam and Madagascar what does it have to do with Serbia or Kosovo how much do they have a relationship, but these clowns from both sides have to distract somehow.

But Dacic wants to see how he can stay in power for 10more years with bullshit, if it makes him happy ok good for him.

All this now is about North what will happen and how much self-rule those 40K Serbs will get, its not Taiwan or two Germanys as this is not issue between same people!

sarma

pre 6 godina

Dacic at first you guys have to fix this: Serbia records lowest birth rate in last 100 years. Only 64,734 babies were born in Serbia in 2016. There are plenty of ways to fix that literally overnight.

Ivana

pre 6 godina

Kosovo is much poorer and has even bigger problems than Serbia, so maybe they should give us example and start solving real problems an give up on their independence.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ azir, I mean victory 99- Lol, you’re a pretty stupid guy! I mean, stupid!! Not just dumb, but really really stupid!
I don’t think you even know what you write.. I’m pretty sure majority of Albanians disagree with your stupid writing!
You write like you have control over your destiny!
You will do as your masters tell you, nothing more, nothing less! If Washington tells you to bend over for BG, you will bend over and you will like it, got it? Your future lies in the outcome of wheeling and dealing between Washington and Moscow ... it will be what they determine for both BG and your do-called “Kosova”....and it doesn’t look favorable for YOU!
You should take the advantage to talk direct with BG and come up with SOMETHING... idiot!

Bob

pre 6 godina

Oh no again this stupid fat boy speaking what a idiot. Stop wasting millions of dollars against Kosovo independence because your startegy aginst Kosova independence is not working so take those millions of dollars fiit your own poor Serbian people.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lol, 27 November 2017 16:42)

If its old equipment why are you so worried? The US F18 design goes back to 1978 so its not the age but the electronics inside the craft mate.

But on the issue of NATO, Serbia never plans to deal with NATO because we will leave that to the Russians who at present strength can walk over NATO in less than 48 hours in the Baltics and about a week to disable the rest.

We need the aircraft to deal with Albanians, Croats and Bosniaks.

If living standards are getting worse in Serbia then I’d hate to live in Kosova or Croatia because no one has even opened a can of soda there let alone any industry. Yesterday, at the Budapest conference, hosted by China, Serbia got the lion’s share of proposed Chinese investment while Croatia has to negotiate its meagre offerings. You should have watched last night’s HRTV Dnevnik to see their disappointment.

icj1

pre 6 godina

Dacic is doing AWESOME. THAT is EXACTLY why he is being paid...
(Watcher, 27 November 2017 16:11)

According to Ivica, he is paid to make a certain "Pacolli" angry. Not sure how that helps the poor Serbia's taxpayers who pay Ivica's salary... but, hey, if you're happy wasting Serbia's taxpayer money, I'm happy that you are happy :)

Worry about Serbia

pre 6 godina

@ Worry about Serbia I also wanted to work in a physics research institute in albania but they pay miserable salaries. 300 or 400 for an engineer is not bad if you don't have a rent for the house to pay.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 27 November 2017 20:11)

So you want us to live in parents house you crazy,

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

At the beginning you live in your parents house, waiting for them to depart from this world :) if not, you find a job for your wife and take a loan in bank for a small apartment. @ Worry its simple, we had socialist system that provided job and housing for free to everybody. No good we wanted capitalism and this is capitalism. Get used to it. Now you can find everything you want in the free market, the only thing you'll never find is another mother and another father who are the only ones who will always love our ungrateful asses and make you live with them without paying a cent. Wise words words of gold spoken from crazy Sken!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

9 dislikes already? 9 smart albanians and serbs were waiting for me to reply to my colleague and friend from Serbia? People you're really sick and you really have nothing better to do in your lives besides spying if Sken makes a little harmless anti-imperialist fart online!! Happy Independence Day Azir and don't forget tironc expression: Love Albania as much as Albanians love America! Duajeni Shqiperine sic duan shqiptaret Ameriken! Amin!

sj

pre 6 godina

(Victory1999, 27 November 2017 12:31

I don’t live in Serbia because I was not born there. I only mention investment because that is how a country manages to lift its economy and living standards. I know its hard for you to understand since most of you people only deal with goats and donkeys.

I hope it continues to, as you say, suck because Kosova is not going anywhere while Serbia is moving ahead LOL.

I hate to disappoint you but the king of welfare are your fellow Muslims, but let me tell you in the 31 years of working in the finance industry throughout Asia and earlier in my career Europe for a short time, I have come across all kinds of people. I have met many Serbs in that industry. The first time I ever met an Albanian was in 2015 when I went to Kosovo.

From pleading to threats to name calling it must really hurt what Serbia is doing to your lot LOL. Enjoy it.

What a joke

pre 6 godina

What a clown.. Serbia please open your eyes. You have alot of real problems . Serbia is poor ,discrimination and attacks against minorities, especially Roma, threats against media freedom, an inefficient judicial system, and long periods of pretrial detention as key human rights issues facing the country. Etc
Do you give him a salary to solve your real problems. Or to travel all the day long , to steal money . And to talk all the time about kosovo ,while serbs have no jobs , and alot of problems..
Look, france and germany work together and are developed. They are not stupid like Dacic. With the Dacic mentality you know very well that there will be no EU. Europe can lie you all your lifetime by opening chapters (Turkey opened 20 chapters ) . You have to change. Kosovo is indipendent. Accept it. And let's work together and solve our real problems,for a better life for your people.. And not the imaginary ones (kosovo) which ones dacic is using to hide his corruption

sj

pre 6 godina

You have to change. Kosovo is indipendent. Accept it. And let's work together and solve our real problems,for a better life for your people.. And not the imaginary ones (kosovo) which ones dacic is using to hide his corruption
(What a joke, 27 November 2017 10:34)

No, its not going to happen. Kosovo stays where it is – stagnant and not moving anywhere.

Your problem is that Serbia is attracting big time investment while your Albanians have to leave Kosovo. This is not Yugoslavia and Serbs don’t give a fig any more about problems that your Albanians are having.

Surely all those recognitions would have cleared the path for investment????? Where is the US?

lawyer

pre 6 godina

"In order to do this, the other side should accept to talk. And Pristina thinks that there is nothing to talk about and that, as they say, independence is irreversible. It turned out that this is not true. Taiwan was at one time recognized by more than 80 countries, and now that number is very small," Dacic said.

It is sad to see the Serbian MFA comparing small Serbia to huge China. Taiwan lost the recognitions because China launched its One-China Policy and conditioned diplomatic relations with the de-recognition of Taiwan. There could not be two countries representing the Chinese people in the UN. This is totally different from the Serbia-Kosovo problem and this should be acknowledged. Stop lying to your own people with such stupidities, please. This is really sad.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Yes,yes keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better you fat pig. You will never see Kosovo back again since it was never yours to begin with and you can forget about anything else. Twenty years have passed and you still have zero control,zero authority,zero power and zero influence over Kosovo and its citizens. You are beyond pathetic. Admit that serbs are the biggest losers in world history and a failure of a race. Failed in everything and yet they think they are the center of the universe. HA!

Windmill

pre 6 godina

The note from Madagascar is written, certified, and can be easily found and read online, making their recognition is 100% legit. Your problem is that you are trying hopelessly in a quixotic quest to undermine the legitimacy of an independence that is recognized by the makers of this world order. Neither you, as the representative of a minuscule and laughable diplomacy, nor your bigger but still inferior allies, can undermine the recognition legitimacy that naturally comes from top world powers. The only people naive enough to fall for your delusions are toothless voters in remote Serbian counties where reality has stopped being current many decades ago. Which shows the level of desperation that you must be in to cater to those type of voters. What is it, can't win the next election without relying on deeply uneducated masses? Madagascar is only one of many more recognitions that are coming in soon. And your voters will blame you for this boomerang, just like they blamed Jeremic when the ICJ told him how things are.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Lol, 27 November 2017 16:42)

If its old equipment why are you so worried? The US F18 design goes back to 1978 so its not the age but the electronics inside the craft mate.

But on the issue of NATO, Serbia never plans to deal with NATO because we will leave that to the Russians who at present strength can walk over NATO in less than 48 hours in the Baltics and about a week to disable the rest.

We need the aircraft to deal with Albanians, Croats and Bosniaks.

If living standards are getting worse in Serbia then I’d hate to live in Kosova or Croatia because no one has even opened a can of soda there let alone any industry. Yesterday, at the Budapest conference, hosted by China, Serbia got the lion’s share of proposed Chinese investment while Croatia has to negotiate its meagre offerings. You should have watched last night’s HRTV Dnevnik to see their disappointment.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Sj

Why are you not living in serbia if all those "investments"( only thing you can brag about since your nation sucks in everything else) are "helping" "improving" your rathole?

That rights. That western welfare is something servs enjoy to live off since they cant do anything else. And bragging about investments is something african countries do, not european countries. But since serbia is the bottom of the barrel in everything, offcourse investments is the only thing they can mention despite servs are still leaving their country to move to the west and live off welfare like the parasites they are.....

Watcher

pre 6 godina

lol, one day saying Suriname revoking recognition doesn't matter, next day having an orgasm with Magadascar "supposed" recognition:)
What's the difference??? Nobody will invest in you until BG has a deal with you!! You've tried EVERYTHING to strongarm BG to "recognize", nothing works! You STILL don't get it?? You are destined to remain stagnant, no future for your young, no opportunities until BG LEGALLY can't push back...and that can ONLY come with an "agreement" with BEOGRAD, not WASHINGTON, LONDON, MOSCOW, ANKARA, ETC....only BEOGRAD!! What part of this do you not understand?? The "international" voices "fighting" on your behalf are just that..noise! Trust me, they are looking for a way to save face and cover up their "oops" and as soon as BG gives them an opening, they're going for it...Trust me, they won't even sk you! Don't believe me?...ask the Kurds! or Palastinians! or Iraqis! or (fill in the blank)......Smell the coffee!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

@ Worry about Serbia I also wanted to work in a physics research institute in albania but they pay miserable salaries. 300 or 400 for an engineer is not bad if you don't have a rent for the house to pay. Its all proportionate to the cost of living. In Germany or Austria of course you would earn more but Europe now doesn't offer a better living standard. I write this because I've seen hundreds of engineers and economists who earned their degrees in European countries but couldnt find a job or life was too expensive and are moving back to Albania. Also consider that many of the new investments are long term ones which means it would take at least 5-7 years to see if they have any positive effect on the economy or not. What we need instead are strong unions and professional organizations that really fight for higher wages. Everybody in the region is shrinking. No more Tito and Hoxha to give medals to heroine mothers of 4-5 children. Modern women can barely give birth to a child, maximum maximum 2, they care about their body and who can really blame them?

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ what a joke - Exactly, what a joke of a comment! Dacic is doing AWESOME. THAT is EXACTLY why he is being paid...to defend the integrity of SERBIA!
And I think that you're just plain wrong, We are not worried about Kosovo like you think, it's YOU guys that are frantic...not knowing what else to do so you attack the growing economy of Serbia and then attack Dacic for doing what every proud experienced politician should do...protect his own country. Your concern should be what are YOUR politicians doing to protect YOUR interests, not what Dacic is doing for HIS country!! I think you guys are going in circles....my humble opinion;)

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

One thing that defiantly not a bogus and is crystal clear to everyone, is the fact that Serbia hasn't had any type of authority over "TROK" in almost 20 years!
That is indisputable!!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

At the beginning you live in your parents house, waiting for them to depart from this world :) if not, you find a job for your wife and take a loan in bank for a small apartment. @ Worry its simple, we had socialist system that provided job and housing for free to everybody. No good we wanted capitalism and this is capitalism. Get used to it. Now you can find everything you want in the free market, the only thing you'll never find is another mother and another father who are the only ones who will always love our ungrateful asses and make you live with them without paying a cent. Wise words words of gold spoken from crazy Sken!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 6 godina

Let’s assume that Dacic is right and 8 recognitions are bogus.
But what about the other 107?

Madagascar recognition is real not fake and you can verify it very easily.

Anyway as long as USA doesn’t revoke her recognition I feel very comfortable about the independence of Kosovo.

Worry about Serbia

pre 6 godina

In 2017, Serbia has 7.05 million inhabitants in the statistical office, and in reality about 6.9 million inhabitants.

Every year, because of a negative natural increase, we remain without 40,000 people and another 10,000 are net-moving - a modest estimate. That's a total of 50,000 a year.
What will it say that Serbia will lose 1.5 million inhabitants in 30 years and will have:
6.9 - 1.5 = 5.4 million inhabitants if not less.
Thank the politicians and your indifference to their plundering!

I dont get it Serbia is awesome if you live in Germany or Austrlia and come over summer and everything is cheap but not for those living here and not part of some Political gang.

An investment that everyone talks are good but they pay shit wages this is why they come here, to pay 300 to 400 for an engineer. I am a Researcher in Novi Sad for Schnider and its sad what they pay, a coworker in Hungary makes 3X more welcome to Europes low wage central.

If I move to France or Germany my life will improve so easy to be natinalist when living abroad.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Watcher

There will be no agreement with belgrad. You are gypsies and we rather watch you perish in a nuclear firestorm than shaking your Aids infested hands about worthless "agreements". We dont like you or have anything to do with you. There will be nothing. We rule our own country as it fits us and we dont take orders from subhuman trash(serbs) to tell us what to do. Get that through your skull. You cant make us to sign any "agreements" at all.You are in no position to tell us what to do. Thats the reality you still have not accepted. You are a thing of the past and will remain such as well in the future

Ivana

pre 6 godina

Kosovo is much poorer and has even bigger problems than Serbia, so maybe they should give us example and start solving real problems an give up on their independence.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 6 godina

Surely all those recognitions would have cleared the path for investment????? Where is the US?
(sj, 27 November 2017 11:07) # Comment link

Good question. This country completely rebuilt itself after Serbia burned it to the ground. You should visit any large metro and you can see for yourself. The Kosovan economy has been growing at a rapid pace and it's charging full steam ahead.


Sincerely,

Alo Alo

pre 6 godina

1. Dacic are you comparing Serbia to China?
Also, there is a big difference between Kosovo and Taiwan. Taiwan considered it's self as the rightful Chinese gov and it was recognized as China, after 1979 you could not recognize two chinas and Taiwan never declared independence. Its like Kosovo was the rightful ruler of Serbia.

There was a document released by Madagascar just do a search Dacic google it!

from nov 23 2016:

[https://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=11&dd=23&nav_id=99769]

Look the truth is this is distraction, after all, Surinam and Madagascar what does it have to do with Serbia or Kosovo how much do they have a relationship, but these clowns from both sides have to distract somehow.

But Dacic wants to see how he can stay in power for 10more years with bullshit, if it makes him happy ok good for him.

All this now is about North what will happen and how much self-rule those 40K Serbs will get, its not Taiwan or two Germanys as this is not issue between same people!

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ azir, I mean victory 99- Lol, you’re a pretty stupid guy! I mean, stupid!! Not just dumb, but really really stupid!
I don’t think you even know what you write.. I’m pretty sure majority of Albanians disagree with your stupid writing!
You write like you have control over your destiny!
You will do as your masters tell you, nothing more, nothing less! If Washington tells you to bend over for BG, you will bend over and you will like it, got it? Your future lies in the outcome of wheeling and dealing between Washington and Moscow ... it will be what they determine for both BG and your do-called “Kosova”....and it doesn’t look favorable for YOU!
You should take the advantage to talk direct with BG and come up with SOMETHING... idiot!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

9 dislikes already? 9 smart albanians and serbs were waiting for me to reply to my colleague and friend from Serbia? People you're really sick and you really have nothing better to do in your lives besides spying if Sken makes a little harmless anti-imperialist fart online!! Happy Independence Day Azir and don't forget tironc expression: Love Albania as much as Albanians love America! Duajeni Shqiperine sic duan shqiptaret Ameriken! Amin!

Bob

pre 6 godina

Oh no again this stupid fat boy speaking what a idiot. Stop wasting millions of dollars against Kosovo independence because your startegy aginst Kosova independence is not working so take those millions of dollars fiit your own poor Serbian people.

sarma

pre 6 godina

Dacic at first you guys have to fix this: Serbia records lowest birth rate in last 100 years. Only 64,734 babies were born in Serbia in 2016. There are plenty of ways to fix that literally overnight.

Worry about Serbia

pre 6 godina

@ Worry about Serbia I also wanted to work in a physics research institute in albania but they pay miserable salaries. 300 or 400 for an engineer is not bad if you don't have a rent for the house to pay.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 27 November 2017 20:11)

So you want us to live in parents house you crazy,

icj1

pre 6 godina

Dacic is doing AWESOME. THAT is EXACTLY why he is being paid...
(Watcher, 27 November 2017 16:11)

According to Ivica, he is paid to make a certain "Pacolli" angry. Not sure how that helps the poor Serbia's taxpayers who pay Ivica's salary... but, hey, if you're happy wasting Serbia's taxpayer money, I'm happy that you are happy :)