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Russia "depends on Serbia as its key launching ground"

Russia will continue to try to influence the events in the Balkans, where Serbia is its most important link that serves as a launching ground.

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aaa

pre 6 godina

The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.
(Michael Thomas, 11 September 2017 19:35)

I agree, tell that to the Serbs who claim Ivo Andric is a Serb, amongst countless other examples in the greater Balkans region

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Joni

AT LEAST HALF OF THE SHQIPTAR NAMES THAT I EVER SAW HAD SLAVIC ROOTES AND IT'S QUITE NATURAL AS YOU APPEARED ON THE BALKANS IN 14-15 CENTURY AS PART OF THE GREAT SLAVIC HORDE AND YOU LIVED AMONG US FOR 500-600 YEARS. PLEASE CHOOSE EITHER WE TALK ABOUT SKENDERBEU OR ABOUT THE SHQIPTARS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. I DON'D KNOW FOR SURE BUT I HAVE ENOUGH INFO TO SUPPOSE THAT SKENDERBEU, ALEXANDER THE GREAT, MEHMET II AND TAMERLANE WERE THE SAME MAN WHO DIED IN SAMARKAND IN 1481. AND HE DERIVED FROM URAL (YAIK) COSSACKS. TO BE EXACT HE WAS FROM CHELJABINSK REGION AND THAT'S WHY THE SULTANS CALLED THEMSELVES CHELEBI AND LATER THEIR SHASHZADE BOYS ALSO WERE GIVEN THE TITLE. IF YOU COMPARE THE LANDS CONTROLLED BY ALEXANDER, TIMUR AND MEHMET II YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ARE THE SAME LANDS OFTEN CALLED MOGOLISTAN. BE SURE THE SHQIPTARS WERE INSIDE THIS MEDIAEVAL ARMY. G2A, J1 AND J2 HAPPLOGROUPS ORIGINATE FROM NORTH CAUCASUS WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS JOINED OUR HORDES. FROM THIS POINT YOU HAVE SOME MORAL RIGHT TO CALL YOURSELF ALBANIANS I.E. WHITES. IN FACT NOT EVEN ALL SLAVS COULD SAY SO. ONLY THOSE FROM NORTH-WEST RUS, POLAND, PRUSSIA, NORTHERN GERMANY, GALICIA IN UKRAINE ECT. NOW IF YOU WANT TO BE DISSAPOINTED OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT SKENDERBEU'S LIFE STORY.

Joni

pre 6 godina

OK Google now i see why Skenderbeu,s parents and all 9 children had Slavic names. Iskander Bek himself was famous in Rus including Moscow and Siberia. We can talk about it.
(Rote, 12 September 2017 10:32)

Which is the definition of Slavic names? Gjergj or George. And what do you know about Albanian names? Some names are same in all the Europe and Balkan - Mara, Maria, Jelena, Angelina.. But could you find an Serbian, Russian, Bulgarian with name Stanisa, Reposh, Vlajka, ("Kostandin'- from Kostandinopoja)- more likely look like Hungarian more than Slavic.
Skanderbeg son was named Gjon - look it Slavic to you?
Stefan (Nemanja) is not Slavic name for exmp. is a Greek one for those who don't know.
And Nemanja is not a Serb according to you? Yes it may be he has a Greek name.
Try to see the Serbian who married Albanians there are even non "Slavic" names among them. So what?

Questioner

pre 6 godina

"He is able to do this only because Europe allows him to do it, and he will do it as long as he can... Because that's a way to benefit when you play between big countries and opposed blocs. And in the given circumstances he is doing it relatively well," said the British analyst.

Wasn't that exactly the method that made YU relatively wealthy during the times of cold war, sitting on two chairs playing cards with both sides and taking the benefits?

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Criticize me friends criticize me, I know that the Party criticizes me for my own good! This used to be the introduction of the autocritic of the poor communists who were about to be executed by the Party and Enver properly. Last chance to have at least your wife and children life saved when you were sure to be killed soon. These words became iconic and I still say them to my wife when she complains about me..

macaroon

pre 6 godina

EU Dude

you forget "SEEMS". The stuff gluing together two parts of a FAKE NARRATIVE. The whole thing's like one giant toxic Oreo.

Popnbgd

pre 6 godina

It is insulting for human intelligence....This laughable story about "Russia's aggression "...The one and only aggressor and bully in recent history is NATO...Don't underestimate people's intelligence...

Rote

pre 6 godina

Icj

OK Google now i see why Skenderbeu,s parents and all 9 children had Slavic names. Iskander Bek himself was famous in Rus including Moscow and Siberia. We can talk about it.

Joni

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church. The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.
(Michael Thomas, 11 September 2017 19:35)

Maybe Tesla was a Croat or a Serb i don't know - he spoke Serbo - Craoatian!
But George Kastrioti spoke Gheg Albanian and his father was Albanian.
Maybe his mother was Serbian or Bulgarian from the present day Fyrom, but how many Serbian noble man had Albanian blood on their vein?
Don;t be jealous, because all you have all mass murders and traitors not heroes!
You still pray to Saint Angelina of Serbia! And remember ORTHODOX RELIGION is not a Serbian property!
George was faithful to his own people not to the religion! He was raised as a Catholic, was a Muslim and died as an Orthodox!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Angelina_of_Serbia

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church.
(Michael Thomas)

TERMINOLOGY AND CHRONOLOGY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF WHAT WE CALL HISTORY. ALBANIANS WERE WESTERN RUS AND THEY RULED THE WORLD IN THE MIDDLE AGES AS ROMANS, MONGOLS, RUS, OTTOMANS, CHINESE, INDIANS ECT. THERE WAS NO WORLD EMPIRE IN THE PAST OTHER THAN THE SLAVIC ALBANIAN ROME INCLUDING SERBS. HEADED BY THE RJURICOVICI DYNASTY THEY TOOK ROOTES ALSO FROM THE BYZANTINE CAPTURED IN 1204 AND IN 1453. SHQIPTARS WERE PART OF THE ALBANIANS I THINK. OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE ON THE BALKANS. SO THEY TOOK SOME PARTS OF THE HORDIAN HISTORY TO EXPOSE IT AS THEIR OWN. OTHER NEIGHBORS DO THE SAME. RUTHENIA IS THE LATIN FOR RUS AND RASKA IS THE SERBIAN FOR SMALL RUS - JUST LIKE MALOROSSIA (UKRAINE).

ACCORDING TO ANATOLY FOMENKO SKANDERBEG AKA TAMERLANE AKA MEHMET II AKA ALEXANDER FILIPPOVIC WERE ONE MAN AND HE WAS AN URAL COSSACK AMIR = ATAMAN. SKENDERBEU IS A COMPOSITION OF 2 (OUT OF 9 KNOWN NAMES) OF TAMERLANE AVAILABLE IN THE RUSSIAN WIKIPEDIA. FOR 28 YEARS HE RULED NOT ONLY THE AUTONOMUS OTTOMANS BUT THE WHOLE EMPIRE. IN 1481 HE DIED IN SAMARKAND AND IVAN III GROZNY (YAVUZ) RETURNED THE CAPITOL TO ROSTOV - VELIKI NOVGOROD. HE WAS A RUS SAINT AS MOHAMMED AND ALL THE CHURCHES HERE PRAYED FOR HIM.

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/05.html
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/index.html

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Why are you using this name ? Obviously you are a serb, so why are you using this name ? Or better who's your daddy ?
(Who, 11 September 2017 17:47)

I TOO BELIEVE THAT SKANDERBEU SOUNDS RATHER SLAVIC BUT THIS MAN IS USING IT FOR YEARS NOW AND IT ISN'T INSULTING US. BESIDES HE IS A SHQIPTAR WITH NO RADICALIST COMMENTS. I CALL HIM FRIEND.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Serbs are forgetting this, though.

Demostat: Srbiji je srce na Istoku, a džep na Zapadu http://www.blic.rs/vesti/politika/demostat-srbiji-je-srce-na-istoku-a-dzep-na-zapadu/vfsesgp

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

He also "pointed out that Russian President Vladimir Putin and people around him... want to see Europe divided, countries at odds among themselves and divided internally, each individually" - and also "encourage groups who want to break up the EU or simply generate divisions and neutralize Europe."

What a bunch of sh*t comming out of your mouth Galeotti !!!

So what about the USA and England did to Jugoslavija during the 1990's under the command of Hitler ? When the Roman Catholic Empire murders Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity than that is all OK, right ? So much bull shit comming from the USA and Hitler !!!

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Let my daddy in peace in Allah's arms Who..if you have no fantasy and call yourself "who" its not Sken's dad's fault. Daddy of course had two big balls. You can still notice how big they still are by simply turning your face to the sky... Sken's tata's balls!!

Ian

pre 6 godina

Another moron crying wolf. He has zero to back up anything he is saying. He is simply making a narrative to give merrit to aggression against russia. Russia is using their influence around its borders and in areas where they are invited, like serbia or even syria. In syria russia is still the only military that was actually invited to help. There is big time desire dor close serbian, russian relations in serbia, as long as your not talking to some disillusioned snowflake in belgrade.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Wooo! Galeotti! He's such a dear! Your go to guy for kosher sounding 'security reports' made to measure. Need some russophobic bs rustled up sharpish served up with a patina of quasi respectability that you won't get from a media outlet? Call Galeotti. He's the cheap option. Much easier than actually spending real money, but then that would be admitting that the 'Russian threat' is a myth cooked up in the West's figurative crack labs. When everything at home goes to hell, rule no.1, blame someone else. It's a classic. It worked a treat just before World War One. Oh wait a moment...

Michael Thomas

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church. The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

PS, I encourage you to actually download and read the report if you can bear it. Take note of his extensive use of qualifiers such as maybe, potentially, could be' etc. and his use of unnamed anonymous official sources.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

This mafiozo italiano Galoto should explain to the Council of Europe why Italy shut up her mouth when they wanted to prosecute Erdogan's son and Erdo replied with these words: you'd better focus on defying a criminal organization like italian mafia after decades that you've failed to do so.." While I have one question for this Galoto guy: Serbia has today the highest employment rate in the region and increased exports in former Ussr republics and Russia proper. Why do you think that they should shoot on their farmers and young people just because you want to stun the world with this very "deep" analysis of russia's misdoings? Putin wants to divide Europe, says this mafiozo. And tell us when in its history Europe has ever been united on foreign policy? What are your atlantic values about when you argue with each other any day for just a handfull of poor immigrants from middle east? You dont have basic principles of humanity Mr. Galoto! At least America and Canada always accept immigrants from our countries. Italiani sono buoni per manxhare makaroni!! This from an old film of communist era!

Who

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu 1444, 11 September 2017 17:05)

Why are you using this name ? Obviously you are a serb, so why are you using this name ?
Or better who's your daddy ?

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Galeotti, who recently produced a report for the European Council on Foreign Relations entitled, "Controlling Chaos: How Russia Manages its Political War in Europe," went on to say that Russia has no single strategy for the Balkans - but will have one "by the end of the year." He is convinced that Russia will continue to try to influence the events in Montenegro, "but using more subtle methods" - and that it will continue to pressure Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia, and, Serbia.

SUCH BASTARDS ARE ON THE HORSE IN EU NOW ...
RUSSUA HAVE ENOUGH TOOLS AND FRIENDS TO REACH IT GOALS
OUR MAIN INTEREST IS TO HAVE NO WARS ON THIS NICE PLANET

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Galeotti, who recently produced a report for the European Council on Foreign Relations entitled, "Controlling Chaos: How Russia Manages its Political War in Europe," went on to say that Russia has no single strategy for the Balkans - but will have one "by the end of the year." He is convinced that Russia will continue to try to influence the events in Montenegro, "but using more subtle methods" - and that it will continue to pressure Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia, and, Serbia.

SUCH BASTARDS ARE ON THE HORSE IN EU NOW ...
RUSSUA HAVE ENOUGH TOOLS AND FRIENDS TO REACH IT GOALS
OUR MAIN INTEREST IS TO HAVE NO WARS ON THIS NICE PLANET

Michael Thomas

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church. The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.

Ian

pre 6 godina

Another moron crying wolf. He has zero to back up anything he is saying. He is simply making a narrative to give merrit to aggression against russia. Russia is using their influence around its borders and in areas where they are invited, like serbia or even syria. In syria russia is still the only military that was actually invited to help. There is big time desire dor close serbian, russian relations in serbia, as long as your not talking to some disillusioned snowflake in belgrade.

Popnbgd

pre 6 godina

It is insulting for human intelligence....This laughable story about "Russia's aggression "...The one and only aggressor and bully in recent history is NATO...Don't underestimate people's intelligence...

Joni

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church. The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.
(Michael Thomas, 11 September 2017 19:35)

Maybe Tesla was a Croat or a Serb i don't know - he spoke Serbo - Craoatian!
But George Kastrioti spoke Gheg Albanian and his father was Albanian.
Maybe his mother was Serbian or Bulgarian from the present day Fyrom, but how many Serbian noble man had Albanian blood on their vein?
Don;t be jealous, because all you have all mass murders and traitors not heroes!
You still pray to Saint Angelina of Serbia! And remember ORTHODOX RELIGION is not a Serbian property!
George was faithful to his own people not to the religion! He was raised as a Catholic, was a Muslim and died as an Orthodox!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Angelina_of_Serbia

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

This mafiozo italiano Galoto should explain to the Council of Europe why Italy shut up her mouth when they wanted to prosecute Erdogan's son and Erdo replied with these words: you'd better focus on defying a criminal organization like italian mafia after decades that you've failed to do so.." While I have one question for this Galoto guy: Serbia has today the highest employment rate in the region and increased exports in former Ussr republics and Russia proper. Why do you think that they should shoot on their farmers and young people just because you want to stun the world with this very "deep" analysis of russia's misdoings? Putin wants to divide Europe, says this mafiozo. And tell us when in its history Europe has ever been united on foreign policy? What are your atlantic values about when you argue with each other any day for just a handfull of poor immigrants from middle east? You dont have basic principles of humanity Mr. Galoto! At least America and Canada always accept immigrants from our countries. Italiani sono buoni per manxhare makaroni!! This from an old film of communist era!

Who

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu 1444, 11 September 2017 17:05)

Why are you using this name ? Obviously you are a serb, so why are you using this name ?
Or better who's your daddy ?

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Wooo! Galeotti! He's such a dear! Your go to guy for kosher sounding 'security reports' made to measure. Need some russophobic bs rustled up sharpish served up with a patina of quasi respectability that you won't get from a media outlet? Call Galeotti. He's the cheap option. Much easier than actually spending real money, but then that would be admitting that the 'Russian threat' is a myth cooked up in the West's figurative crack labs. When everything at home goes to hell, rule no.1, blame someone else. It's a classic. It worked a treat just before World War One. Oh wait a moment...

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

PS, I encourage you to actually download and read the report if you can bear it. Take note of his extensive use of qualifiers such as maybe, potentially, could be' etc. and his use of unnamed anonymous official sources.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

He also "pointed out that Russian President Vladimir Putin and people around him... want to see Europe divided, countries at odds among themselves and divided internally, each individually" - and also "encourage groups who want to break up the EU or simply generate divisions and neutralize Europe."

What a bunch of sh*t comming out of your mouth Galeotti !!!

So what about the USA and England did to Jugoslavija during the 1990's under the command of Hitler ? When the Roman Catholic Empire murders Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity than that is all OK, right ? So much bull shit comming from the USA and Hitler !!!

Rote

pre 6 godina

Icj

OK Google now i see why Skenderbeu,s parents and all 9 children had Slavic names. Iskander Bek himself was famous in Rus including Moscow and Siberia. We can talk about it.

Joni

pre 6 godina

OK Google now i see why Skenderbeu,s parents and all 9 children had Slavic names. Iskander Bek himself was famous in Rus including Moscow and Siberia. We can talk about it.
(Rote, 12 September 2017 10:32)

Which is the definition of Slavic names? Gjergj or George. And what do you know about Albanian names? Some names are same in all the Europe and Balkan - Mara, Maria, Jelena, Angelina.. But could you find an Serbian, Russian, Bulgarian with name Stanisa, Reposh, Vlajka, ("Kostandin'- from Kostandinopoja)- more likely look like Hungarian more than Slavic.
Skanderbeg son was named Gjon - look it Slavic to you?
Stefan (Nemanja) is not Slavic name for exmp. is a Greek one for those who don't know.
And Nemanja is not a Serb according to you? Yes it may be he has a Greek name.
Try to see the Serbian who married Albanians there are even non "Slavic" names among them. So what?

Avni

pre 6 godina

Serbs are forgetting this, though.

Demostat: Srbiji je srce na Istoku, a džep na Zapadu http://www.blic.rs/vesti/politika/demostat-srbiji-je-srce-na-istoku-a-dzep-na-zapadu/vfsesgp

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Why are you using this name ? Obviously you are a serb, so why are you using this name ? Or better who's your daddy ?
(Who, 11 September 2017 17:47)

I TOO BELIEVE THAT SKANDERBEU SOUNDS RATHER SLAVIC BUT THIS MAN IS USING IT FOR YEARS NOW AND IT ISN'T INSULTING US. BESIDES HE IS A SHQIPTAR WITH NO RADICALIST COMMENTS. I CALL HIM FRIEND.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Criticize me friends criticize me, I know that the Party criticizes me for my own good! This used to be the introduction of the autocritic of the poor communists who were about to be executed by the Party and Enver properly. Last chance to have at least your wife and children life saved when you were sure to be killed soon. These words became iconic and I still say them to my wife when she complains about me..

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Let my daddy in peace in Allah's arms Who..if you have no fantasy and call yourself "who" its not Sken's dad's fault. Daddy of course had two big balls. You can still notice how big they still are by simply turning your face to the sky... Sken's tata's balls!!

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church.
(Michael Thomas)

TERMINOLOGY AND CHRONOLOGY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF WHAT WE CALL HISTORY. ALBANIANS WERE WESTERN RUS AND THEY RULED THE WORLD IN THE MIDDLE AGES AS ROMANS, MONGOLS, RUS, OTTOMANS, CHINESE, INDIANS ECT. THERE WAS NO WORLD EMPIRE IN THE PAST OTHER THAN THE SLAVIC ALBANIAN ROME INCLUDING SERBS. HEADED BY THE RJURICOVICI DYNASTY THEY TOOK ROOTES ALSO FROM THE BYZANTINE CAPTURED IN 1204 AND IN 1453. SHQIPTARS WERE PART OF THE ALBANIANS I THINK. OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE ON THE BALKANS. SO THEY TOOK SOME PARTS OF THE HORDIAN HISTORY TO EXPOSE IT AS THEIR OWN. OTHER NEIGHBORS DO THE SAME. RUTHENIA IS THE LATIN FOR RUS AND RASKA IS THE SERBIAN FOR SMALL RUS - JUST LIKE MALOROSSIA (UKRAINE).

ACCORDING TO ANATOLY FOMENKO SKANDERBEG AKA TAMERLANE AKA MEHMET II AKA ALEXANDER FILIPPOVIC WERE ONE MAN AND HE WAS AN URAL COSSACK AMIR = ATAMAN. SKENDERBEU IS A COMPOSITION OF 2 (OUT OF 9 KNOWN NAMES) OF TAMERLANE AVAILABLE IN THE RUSSIAN WIKIPEDIA. FOR 28 YEARS HE RULED NOT ONLY THE AUTONOMUS OTTOMANS BUT THE WHOLE EMPIRE. IN 1481 HE DIED IN SAMARKAND AND IVAN III GROZNY (YAVUZ) RETURNED THE CAPITOL TO ROSTOV - VELIKI NOVGOROD. HE WAS A RUS SAINT AS MOHAMMED AND ALL THE CHURCHES HERE PRAYED FOR HIM.

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/05.html
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/index.html

Questioner

pre 6 godina

"He is able to do this only because Europe allows him to do it, and he will do it as long as he can... Because that's a way to benefit when you play between big countries and opposed blocs. And in the given circumstances he is doing it relatively well," said the British analyst.

Wasn't that exactly the method that made YU relatively wealthy during the times of cold war, sitting on two chairs playing cards with both sides and taking the benefits?

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Joni

AT LEAST HALF OF THE SHQIPTAR NAMES THAT I EVER SAW HAD SLAVIC ROOTES AND IT'S QUITE NATURAL AS YOU APPEARED ON THE BALKANS IN 14-15 CENTURY AS PART OF THE GREAT SLAVIC HORDE AND YOU LIVED AMONG US FOR 500-600 YEARS. PLEASE CHOOSE EITHER WE TALK ABOUT SKENDERBEU OR ABOUT THE SHQIPTARS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. I DON'D KNOW FOR SURE BUT I HAVE ENOUGH INFO TO SUPPOSE THAT SKENDERBEU, ALEXANDER THE GREAT, MEHMET II AND TAMERLANE WERE THE SAME MAN WHO DIED IN SAMARKAND IN 1481. AND HE DERIVED FROM URAL (YAIK) COSSACKS. TO BE EXACT HE WAS FROM CHELJABINSK REGION AND THAT'S WHY THE SULTANS CALLED THEMSELVES CHELEBI AND LATER THEIR SHASHZADE BOYS ALSO WERE GIVEN THE TITLE. IF YOU COMPARE THE LANDS CONTROLLED BY ALEXANDER, TIMUR AND MEHMET II YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ARE THE SAME LANDS OFTEN CALLED MOGOLISTAN. BE SURE THE SHQIPTARS WERE INSIDE THIS MEDIAEVAL ARMY. G2A, J1 AND J2 HAPPLOGROUPS ORIGINATE FROM NORTH CAUCASUS WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS JOINED OUR HORDES. FROM THIS POINT YOU HAVE SOME MORAL RIGHT TO CALL YOURSELF ALBANIANS I.E. WHITES. IN FACT NOT EVEN ALL SLAVS COULD SAY SO. ONLY THOSE FROM NORTH-WEST RUS, POLAND, PRUSSIA, NORTHERN GERMANY, GALICIA IN UKRAINE ECT. NOW IF YOU WANT TO BE DISSAPOINTED OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT SKENDERBEU'S LIFE STORY.

macaroon

pre 6 godina

EU Dude

you forget "SEEMS". The stuff gluing together two parts of a FAKE NARRATIVE. The whole thing's like one giant toxic Oreo.

aaa

pre 6 godina

The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.
(Michael Thomas, 11 September 2017 19:35)

I agree, tell that to the Serbs who claim Ivo Andric is a Serb, amongst countless other examples in the greater Balkans region

Michael Thomas

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church. The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Let my daddy in peace in Allah's arms Who..if you have no fantasy and call yourself "who" its not Sken's dad's fault. Daddy of course had two big balls. You can still notice how big they still are by simply turning your face to the sky... Sken's tata's balls!!

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Galeotti, who recently produced a report for the European Council on Foreign Relations entitled, "Controlling Chaos: How Russia Manages its Political War in Europe," went on to say that Russia has no single strategy for the Balkans - but will have one "by the end of the year." He is convinced that Russia will continue to try to influence the events in Montenegro, "but using more subtle methods" - and that it will continue to pressure Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia, and, Serbia.

SUCH BASTARDS ARE ON THE HORSE IN EU NOW ...
RUSSUA HAVE ENOUGH TOOLS AND FRIENDS TO REACH IT GOALS
OUR MAIN INTEREST IS TO HAVE NO WARS ON THIS NICE PLANET

Who

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeu 1444, 11 September 2017 17:05)

Why are you using this name ? Obviously you are a serb, so why are you using this name ?
Or better who's your daddy ?

Joni

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church. The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.
(Michael Thomas, 11 September 2017 19:35)

Maybe Tesla was a Croat or a Serb i don't know - he spoke Serbo - Craoatian!
But George Kastrioti spoke Gheg Albanian and his father was Albanian.
Maybe his mother was Serbian or Bulgarian from the present day Fyrom, but how many Serbian noble man had Albanian blood on their vein?
Don;t be jealous, because all you have all mass murders and traitors not heroes!
You still pray to Saint Angelina of Serbia! And remember ORTHODOX RELIGION is not a Serbian property!
George was faithful to his own people not to the religion! He was raised as a Catholic, was a Muslim and died as an Orthodox!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Angelina_of_Serbia

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Why are you using this name ? Obviously you are a serb, so why are you using this name ? Or better who's your daddy ?
(Who, 11 September 2017 17:47)

I TOO BELIEVE THAT SKANDERBEU SOUNDS RATHER SLAVIC BUT THIS MAN IS USING IT FOR YEARS NOW AND IT ISN'T INSULTING US. BESIDES HE IS A SHQIPTAR WITH NO RADICALIST COMMENTS. I CALL HIM FRIEND.

Rote

pre 6 godina

Icj

OK Google now i see why Skenderbeu,s parents and all 9 children had Slavic names. Iskander Bek himself was famous in Rus including Moscow and Siberia. We can talk about it.

Popnbgd

pre 6 godina

It is insulting for human intelligence....This laughable story about "Russia's aggression "...The one and only aggressor and bully in recent history is NATO...Don't underestimate people's intelligence...

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

This mafiozo italiano Galoto should explain to the Council of Europe why Italy shut up her mouth when they wanted to prosecute Erdogan's son and Erdo replied with these words: you'd better focus on defying a criminal organization like italian mafia after decades that you've failed to do so.." While I have one question for this Galoto guy: Serbia has today the highest employment rate in the region and increased exports in former Ussr republics and Russia proper. Why do you think that they should shoot on their farmers and young people just because you want to stun the world with this very "deep" analysis of russia's misdoings? Putin wants to divide Europe, says this mafiozo. And tell us when in its history Europe has ever been united on foreign policy? What are your atlantic values about when you argue with each other any day for just a handfull of poor immigrants from middle east? You dont have basic principles of humanity Mr. Galoto! At least America and Canada always accept immigrants from our countries. Italiani sono buoni per manxhare makaroni!! This from an old film of communist era!

Ian

pre 6 godina

Another moron crying wolf. He has zero to back up anything he is saying. He is simply making a narrative to give merrit to aggression against russia. Russia is using their influence around its borders and in areas where they are invited, like serbia or even syria. In syria russia is still the only military that was actually invited to help. There is big time desire dor close serbian, russian relations in serbia, as long as your not talking to some disillusioned snowflake in belgrade.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 6 godina

He also "pointed out that Russian President Vladimir Putin and people around him... want to see Europe divided, countries at odds among themselves and divided internally, each individually" - and also "encourage groups who want to break up the EU or simply generate divisions and neutralize Europe."

What a bunch of sh*t comming out of your mouth Galeotti !!!

So what about the USA and England did to Jugoslavija during the 1990's under the command of Hitler ? When the Roman Catholic Empire murders Slavic Eastern Orthodox Christianity than that is all OK, right ? So much bull shit comming from the USA and Hitler !!!

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Skenderbeg was Serbian. He spoke and wrote in Serbian and was a faithful servant to the Serbian Orthodox Church.
(Michael Thomas)

TERMINOLOGY AND CHRONOLOGY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF WHAT WE CALL HISTORY. ALBANIANS WERE WESTERN RUS AND THEY RULED THE WORLD IN THE MIDDLE AGES AS ROMANS, MONGOLS, RUS, OTTOMANS, CHINESE, INDIANS ECT. THERE WAS NO WORLD EMPIRE IN THE PAST OTHER THAN THE SLAVIC ALBANIAN ROME INCLUDING SERBS. HEADED BY THE RJURICOVICI DYNASTY THEY TOOK ROOTES ALSO FROM THE BYZANTINE CAPTURED IN 1204 AND IN 1453. SHQIPTARS WERE PART OF THE ALBANIANS I THINK. OTHERWISE THEY WOULDN'T SURVIVE ON THE BALKANS. SO THEY TOOK SOME PARTS OF THE HORDIAN HISTORY TO EXPOSE IT AS THEIR OWN. OTHER NEIGHBORS DO THE SAME. RUTHENIA IS THE LATIN FOR RUS AND RASKA IS THE SERBIAN FOR SMALL RUS - JUST LIKE MALOROSSIA (UKRAINE).

ACCORDING TO ANATOLY FOMENKO SKANDERBEG AKA TAMERLANE AKA MEHMET II AKA ALEXANDER FILIPPOVIC WERE ONE MAN AND HE WAS AN URAL COSSACK AMIR = ATAMAN. SKENDERBEU IS A COMPOSITION OF 2 (OUT OF 9 KNOWN NAMES) OF TAMERLANE AVAILABLE IN THE RUSSIAN WIKIPEDIA. FOR 28 YEARS HE RULED NOT ONLY THE AUTONOMUS OTTOMANS BUT THE WHOLE EMPIRE. IN 1481 HE DIED IN SAMARKAND AND IVAN III GROZNY (YAVUZ) RETURNED THE CAPITOL TO ROSTOV - VELIKI NOVGOROD. HE WAS A RUS SAINT AS MOHAMMED AND ALL THE CHURCHES HERE PRAYED FOR HIM.

http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/05.html
http://chronologia.org/en/how_it_was/index.html

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

Wooo! Galeotti! He's such a dear! Your go to guy for kosher sounding 'security reports' made to measure. Need some russophobic bs rustled up sharpish served up with a patina of quasi respectability that you won't get from a media outlet? Call Galeotti. He's the cheap option. Much easier than actually spending real money, but then that would be admitting that the 'Russian threat' is a myth cooked up in the West's figurative crack labs. When everything at home goes to hell, rule no.1, blame someone else. It's a classic. It worked a treat just before World War One. Oh wait a moment...

rote kapelle

pre 6 godina

Joni

AT LEAST HALF OF THE SHQIPTAR NAMES THAT I EVER SAW HAD SLAVIC ROOTES AND IT'S QUITE NATURAL AS YOU APPEARED ON THE BALKANS IN 14-15 CENTURY AS PART OF THE GREAT SLAVIC HORDE AND YOU LIVED AMONG US FOR 500-600 YEARS. PLEASE CHOOSE EITHER WE TALK ABOUT SKENDERBEU OR ABOUT THE SHQIPTARS. BECAUSE THOSE ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. I DON'D KNOW FOR SURE BUT I HAVE ENOUGH INFO TO SUPPOSE THAT SKENDERBEU, ALEXANDER THE GREAT, MEHMET II AND TAMERLANE WERE THE SAME MAN WHO DIED IN SAMARKAND IN 1481. AND HE DERIVED FROM URAL (YAIK) COSSACKS. TO BE EXACT HE WAS FROM CHELJABINSK REGION AND THAT'S WHY THE SULTANS CALLED THEMSELVES CHELEBI AND LATER THEIR SHASHZADE BOYS ALSO WERE GIVEN THE TITLE. IF YOU COMPARE THE LANDS CONTROLLED BY ALEXANDER, TIMUR AND MEHMET II YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE ARE THE SAME LANDS OFTEN CALLED MOGOLISTAN. BE SURE THE SHQIPTARS WERE INSIDE THIS MEDIAEVAL ARMY. G2A, J1 AND J2 HAPPLOGROUPS ORIGINATE FROM NORTH CAUCASUS WHERE YOUR ANCESTORS JOINED OUR HORDES. FROM THIS POINT YOU HAVE SOME MORAL RIGHT TO CALL YOURSELF ALBANIANS I.E. WHITES. IN FACT NOT EVEN ALL SLAVS COULD SAY SO. ONLY THOSE FROM NORTH-WEST RUS, POLAND, PRUSSIA, NORTHERN GERMANY, GALICIA IN UKRAINE ECT. NOW IF YOU WANT TO BE DISSAPOINTED OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT SKENDERBEU'S LIFE STORY.

Avni

pre 6 godina

Serbs are forgetting this, though.

Demostat: Srbiji je srce na Istoku, a džep na Zapadu http://www.blic.rs/vesti/politika/demostat-srbiji-je-srce-na-istoku-a-dzep-na-zapadu/vfsesgp

Joni

pre 6 godina

OK Google now i see why Skenderbeu,s parents and all 9 children had Slavic names. Iskander Bek himself was famous in Rus including Moscow and Siberia. We can talk about it.
(Rote, 12 September 2017 10:32)

Which is the definition of Slavic names? Gjergj or George. And what do you know about Albanian names? Some names are same in all the Europe and Balkan - Mara, Maria, Jelena, Angelina.. But could you find an Serbian, Russian, Bulgarian with name Stanisa, Reposh, Vlajka, ("Kostandin'- from Kostandinopoja)- more likely look like Hungarian more than Slavic.
Skanderbeg son was named Gjon - look it Slavic to you?
Stefan (Nemanja) is not Slavic name for exmp. is a Greek one for those who don't know.
And Nemanja is not a Serb according to you? Yes it may be he has a Greek name.
Try to see the Serbian who married Albanians there are even non "Slavic" names among them. So what?

EU Dude

pre 6 godina

PS, I encourage you to actually download and read the report if you can bear it. Take note of his extensive use of qualifiers such as maybe, potentially, could be' etc. and his use of unnamed anonymous official sources.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 6 godina

Criticize me friends criticize me, I know that the Party criticizes me for my own good! This used to be the introduction of the autocritic of the poor communists who were about to be executed by the Party and Enver properly. Last chance to have at least your wife and children life saved when you were sure to be killed soon. These words became iconic and I still say them to my wife when she complains about me..

macaroon

pre 6 godina

EU Dude

you forget "SEEMS". The stuff gluing together two parts of a FAKE NARRATIVE. The whole thing's like one giant toxic Oreo.

Questioner

pre 6 godina

"He is able to do this only because Europe allows him to do it, and he will do it as long as he can... Because that's a way to benefit when you play between big countries and opposed blocs. And in the given circumstances he is doing it relatively well," said the British analyst.

Wasn't that exactly the method that made YU relatively wealthy during the times of cold war, sitting on two chairs playing cards with both sides and taking the benefits?

aaa

pre 6 godina

The simple fact that modern day Albanians claim him as one of their own just because he lived on the territory of modern day Albania makes as much sense as the Croats who claim Nikola Tesla as a Croat. It makes no sense.
(Michael Thomas, 11 September 2017 19:35)

I agree, tell that to the Serbs who claim Ivo Andric is a Serb, amongst countless other examples in the greater Balkans region