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Monday, 07.08.2017.

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SPO leader wants Serbia to recognize "Kosovo reality"

The leader of the Serbian Renewal Movement (SPO), Vuk Draskovic, believes that Serbia should "accept and recognize the Kosovo reality."

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Free

pre 6 godina

(sj, 9 August 2017 10:56) # Comment link

First you bring an article to back your claims, then you call it a stupid article and then you say the article you brought is lying. lol

Too much rakia? Or it`s all natural serbian intelligence?

sj

pre 6 godina

(0+sj=0,0, 9 August 2017 09:57)

1.9 million registered voters is pure fantasy mate and that is why I said the article was badly written. Kosovo has on its books a population of 1.9 million. You cannot have 100% of your population voting since there are children and others not capable of voting, but hey you are Albanians so perhaps everyone can vote.



Australia has a population of 24 million and it has 15.8 million registered voters. Get the difference?

Where do you live?

sj^2 = 0

pre 6 godina

I admit that article is poorly written. It should have stated that “of the 1.9 million that live in Kosovo 500,000 live abroad, and nearly half of the 1.9 million is registered to vote and that includes people living abroad”.
...
As I said its worth while visiting to see the empty villages. I certainly was in Kosovo in 2015 and it surprised me.
(sj, 9 August 2017 09:27)

Yes, that's what the article should say in order to match your fantasies, but it is not the way things work.

First you provide a link that totally contradicts what you claim, and next you tell us you were in Kosovo in 2015 and saw empty villages and concluded that the 900K must live in Kosovo. Hehe.. Eeee lele majko, the stupidity!

sj

pre 6 godina

(1+sj=0, 8 August 2017 18:52)

Its like talking to a chimp. I know what I attached and yes it talks about a population of 1.9 million of which half million live abroad. The register voter part should be just about 950,000 which includes the people that live abroad and those that live in Kosovo, that is unless babies and school children can vote.

That means for the first time an attempt has been made to talk about “Kosovo’s real population levels”.

In fact the numbers are much higher since in the first 2 months of the great exodus 200,000 Albanians left Kosovo. Even today they are leaving in large numbers so I’ll stick to my figure of just a little over 900,000.

This type of language “Hehe.. Stupid bre” only proves that you are knuckle dragger whose intellectual prowess can fit on the head of a pin. Time for another bong LOl.

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

You really dont know when to stop digging holes for your self do you? So your whole 900K is based on you were in Kosovo in 2015?

sj

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 18:04)



I admit that article is poorly written. It should have stated that “of the 1.9 million that live in Kosovo 500,000 live abroad, and nearly half of the 1.9 million is registered to vote and that includes people living abroad”.

Kosovo has a population of 1.9 million pre-great exodus and today they are leaving regularly so unless your popping out 10 babies per year generally populations decline. As I said its worth while visiting to see the empty villages. I certainly was in Kosovo in 2015 and it surprised me.

0+sj=0,0

pre 6 godina

@sj
Here is what the link you attached says:

"About 1.9 million Kosovars, of which nearly half a million live abroad, are registered to vote in the third election since the country declared independence in 2008."

Now, if you have basic understanding of the English language you should realize that there are 1,9 million registered _voters_. Not citizens, but registered voters. Of which half million live abroad. So your conclusion that nr citizens is smaller than the voters can only be explained by the fact that you:
1. Are ignorant
2. Are lying (to yourself)
3. Do not understand English
3. 1, 2 and 3

Because what you say is simply not physically possible.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 18:04)

Yes and Kosovo also has 30% unemployment too. Much like US unemployment figure of 4.7% which even Trump laughs at. I attached the article because its the closest thing to some truth on stats especially the so called growth.

If you think that Kosovo has 1.4 million then keep on deluding yourself because until I posted this article you would have argued that its 1.9 million. I suggest that you buy a ticket and visit Kosovo.

If Pristina keeps such good data then how many of your Albos suffer from cancers due to depleted uranium? Does not exist because they don't keep any records.

No word on the growth part though LOL.

Putinlover

pre 6 godina

I dont blame serbians or albanians I blame the Ottomans for giving the power and lands to serbia to control way back and you can thank the brankovic clan for that

FFS!

pre 6 godina

Appendix B, Rambouillet Agreement. Read it moron. It demand to freedom of movement of NATO forced throughout Yugoslavia. NATO wanted war and it chose war, like Slovenia, like Croatia and like Bosnia. Fuck the minorities with Deutschland Uber Alles blessing and the other closeted nazi states.

1+sj=0

pre 6 godina

@sj
The article talks about 1,9 million registered voters you stupid, of which half million live abroad.
So if there are 1,4 registered voters inside Kosovo what do you think the nr of citizens is?
Hehe.. Stupid bre!

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.

sj

pre 6 godina

(sj, 8 August 2017 14:03)

[link]

lol
(Free, 8 August 2017 14:28)

These are all part of anti terrorist drills and Serbia has held these outside with NATO and this has never been a secret. In fact it has had many more military exercises with Russian forces in Russia and Serbia, so what’s your point?

sj

pre 6 godina

Do you honestly believe this? Have read any census figures to have come up with such a stupid figure?
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 16:11)

The census figure state that its 1.9 million and it also counts people that do not live there but are “registered to vote, but reality its just over 900,000. This article talks about it.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/kosovo-election-voting-parliamentary-poll-170611043819657.html

Kosovo's growth for 2017 will reach 4% as well, but that is only due to remittances by family members back to Kosovo see that part under economy in focus in the same attachment.

sj

pre 6 godina

You already lost Kosovo, get ready to loose some more in the future
(Victory1999, 8 August 2017 15:52)

If Kosovo is lost then why are you on this site???? You spend more time trying to convince yourself than us LOL.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

The reality is, Kosovo is Serbia and if the people in Kosovo cannot prove they are Serbian citizens, then they should all be expelled to their country of origin... this is what America does with many Latinos and that is what Serbia should do with foreigners in Kosovo....
(Nikola Novakovic, 8 August 2017 03:38)


The reality is Serbia has neither the means or the balls to do what you are suggesting.

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

".... there were 1.9 million Albos in Kosovo, but today its just over 900,000"

Do you honestly believe this? Have read any census figures to have come up with such a stupid figure?

Kent Prince

pre 6 godina

What drugs is this Vuk Draskovic on?

They will not stop until the entire eastern europe is inhabited with their ilk.

The right for self determination also allow them to claim independance anywhere in the world, even in China.

He even misunderstands the Un ruling on the matter. The UN ruled that they have a right to claim independance based on the right to self determination. The UN did not say Kosovo is independent nor did they say Kosovo can be independent.
If this was true then Kosovo would be a member of the UN9DVM4

Jovan

pre 6 godina

A western whore is singing western tunes...

But after all, there is nothing that can't be solved with modern electronics and a little bit of napalm.

When the time is right, our dear albanian guests will be sent home.

sj

pre 6 godina

@sj....yeah good luck with that
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 15:10)

Use your Pristina university qualifications to work this one out. In 1999 there were 1.9 million Albos in Kosovo, but today its just over 900,000 and that includes other ethnic groups LOL.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Jovan

When the time is right there will be no more serbia left. Nato will crush your gypsy country in seconds and shower you with missles and robots like the last time. We will take Presheva and southern serbia will fall to albanian hands in a couple of decades. KFOR can destroy your gypsy army alone and Uck will come in take over the rest. You already lost Kosovo, get ready to loose some more in the future

sj

pre 6 godina

(Golden Eagle, 8 August 2017 14:52)

When all his started there were 1.9 million living in Kosovo today its just over 900,000. Give it a short time there will be no Albos in Kosovo. There are very few Albos in southern Serbia and note that industry is not going anywhere near where Albos live LOL.

Ps B92 well done on your moderator’s vigilance in regard offensive words like gypsy and vermin.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Free, 8 August 2017 11:37)


I don’t give a figs what you want or wish for. Its going to be as the Serbs say and nothing else. We don’t care what you want, it’s what suits us. Kosovo is ours and so is half of Bosnia and there are parts of Croatia that have to be returned, so who cares about a normal life in Bosnia or Kosovo.

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

sj

Kosovo is not yours you gypsy. No one cares what serbs have to say. They are all powerless and impotent and cant do anything but watch. We will erase everything serbian in Kovoso and replace it with albanian. The serbian vermin in northen Kosovo will be kicked out and Presheva will join Kosovo as albanian territory. If Kosovo is "yours" why do you have zero control over it and why does it recongnized by more than half of the world as an independent state? We will make sure that you will loose southern serbia as well in the future. Then there will be no serbia anymore :)

Free

pre 6 godina

Back in 1989 Serbs had the chance to settle everything peacefully with Croats, Bosnians, Albanians under very privileged terms but they chose WAR. And now they`ve lost FOUR wars you say "even the others should accept the reality".

You complain about "foreign interference". YOUR wars caused it. And call for "solution without foreign interlocutors". After ethnic cleansing you started in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo you want all them to forget everything and trust you just like nothing happened?

You live in the dreamworld.

Serbia trying to impede Bosnia and Kosovo having a normal life in every possible way (not necessary recognizing Kosovo) is more than enough to prove that you HAVEN`T change a bit.

Sreten

pre 6 godina

Sounds really great!
We should have Draskovic for a president!
And every other entity or a state in the Balkan should have one.
For example, Croatia could have had one in 1995, or Bosnia should have Draskovic today. So they recognize there is RS and that majority of the people don't want to live in Bosnia! Reality, in other words. And Kosovo should have Draskoviqi....and recognize reality that in northern Kosovo people don't want to have anything to do with Kosovo...and Draskovic would, as president of Serbia, no doubt, recognize that Presevo Valley is also reality...
I have no problem with that.
But, all I see that he is advocating that WE should recognize some reality, while OTHERS should not, just as his Western sponsors do....
Now, that is BS!!!!!

Free

pre 6 godina

Serbian politician always talk about "accepting the reality"and they always love long gone deals.

It is the same pattern that keeps repeating: They were offered a deal, they refused the deal calling it "unacceptable" and talking the same BS about "Serbian history, pride, ancestors, cradle, Jerusalem, 1389, never ever ever" and when the others move on and things change they dig in the past and bring in long dead deals and call it "reality".

They did this with Rambouillet, NATO, UNMIK, EULEX, Ahtisaari Plan, Brussels Agreement (even when they signed NOT to obstruct Kosovo membership into International Organization they still call for not allowing Kosovo into International Organization).

Now they want Rambouillet, UNMIK, EULEX, Ahtisaari Agreement and have partnership agreements with NATO. And when Brussels Agreement will die, they will still be calling for "reality" and Brussels Agreement.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

I wonder if George Soros is still giving him money or he is on drugs. Either way, he is a "TRAITOR". First Vuk Brankovic now this "PAMETNJAKOVIC". He deserves to be tried for treason.

Nikola Novakovic

pre 6 godina

The reality of Kosovo is: there is many Albanian refugees living illegally in Kosovo, they have come across the border from Albania into Yugoslavia during Titos rule, and many more after his rule...
The reality is, Kosovo is Serbia and if the people in Kosovo cannot prove they are Serbian citizens, then they should all be expelled to their country of origin... this is what America does with many Latinos and that is what Serbia should do with foreigners in Kosovo....

Guest

pre 6 godina

The Albanians had agreed to all those terms long ago, now they will refuse everything and as they grow in large numbers in the Balkans and in their diaspora they'll make sure to repay those that were so cruel to them ten fold. Everyone could have parted ways in a peaceful manner with everyone getting what they want, however the Serbs were arrogant in their stance towards Kosovo a country that has less Serbs residing in it than every other of the former Yugoslavia. The way things are going the Albanians have mostly given up on EU membership and are looking to reunify their lands back once again. They have historically been loved by both Rome and The Ottomans for their brutality and savagery, They will be loved by the Americans too who will use them to rid the region of Russian and Turkish influence. Have fun dealing with the most tribal savages in Europe, once they are given free reign by their American masters. I blame the Serbian politicians, who used Kosovo as a bargaining chip to gain the votes and investments of Nationalist and anti Albanians in the region. We need to keep them away from us not intergrate them in to our countries, for they are the same people who abandoned Christianity and embraced Islam just so they can carry weapons on their person.

White Eagle Willy from South Philly

pre 6 godina

Kosovo was never serbian and will never be serbian either. Move back to siberia if you hate the west. There will be no "friendship" either. We will get rid of everything serbian in Kosovo. Enjoy
(Golden Eagle, 7 August 2017 19:04)

You keep messing with them Serbs and before you know it, you'll be laying white gold eggs, while your black eagle partners be laying zebra colored eggs.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Republic of kosova is 95% Albanian and has been albanian majority in a long time. When serboslavs occupied Kosova in 1912 it was 75% Albanian. We have a long history in Kosova. We have many traditions, culture, clothing, food, dances, songs, art, poetry, litterature, and architecture in Kosova. Many famous albanian clans have lived here and so did there ancestors as well. This is our home. Always have and always will be. We are not going anywere. And we shall fight for what belongs to us. This is our home. Like it or not

Brian.

pre 6 godina

There must be a referendum if you want Kosovo removed from the constitution or a referendum on a new constitution without Kosovo. This must go to referendum.

Mr. Ubiparip

pre 6 godina

Unfortunately Kosovars (Kosovo Albanians) will not accept any proposals coming from Serbia. They will do only what Americans tell them. Right now it not good time to keep resolving Kosovo issue since Americans are not interested in that. EU won't accept Serbia nor Kosovo in their Union never so there is no incentive to start any talks. Frozen conflicts are the norm of today without new Yalta to resolve all together. Kosovo, BiH, Moldova, Ukraine, Nagorho Karabah, etc... Americans, Germans, UK, France and Russians have to decide it all on our behalf since we together are useless. All the best.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Golden Eagle - my, my...that's not very "Europe's youngest democracy" attitude you have there..tsk, tsk! You almost sound like you want to do what you accuse Mladic of doing in Srebrenica...come on, now...I thought you wanted to follow in "American value" freedom...but here you're talking like a Hitler...silly boy.

Serbian-Canadian

pre 6 godina

WE THE SERBIAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!!! EVER. DON'T SELL OUT OUR TERRITORY TO FOREIGNERS YOU IDIOTS!!!If we truly lost Kosovo why do they beg us everyday to accept that? HUH!? TELL ME WHY YOU TRAITORS!!!

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

Kosovo was never serbian and will never be serbian either. Move back to siberia if you hate the west. There will be no "friendship" either. We will get rid of everything serbian in Kosovo. Enjoy

L*O*G*I*C

pre 6 godina

I remember vividly Serbian commentators here saying that plan was dead.
They were right but the Constitution was borne out of the Ahtisaari plan.

You may as well propose to accept the Constitution and move on.


Sincerely,

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

Sorry Vuk, that was 2007 and Serbia outright rejected that plan, those terms are forever gone!!!

Now, Serbia must accept the terms laid down by the Republic Of Kosova!

Radical-Serbia should have ceased the moment back in 2007!

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

I wonder if George Soros is still giving him money or he is on drugs. Either way, he is a "TRAITOR". First Vuk Brankovic now this "PAMETNJAKOVIC". He deserves to be tried for treason.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

Sorry Vuk, that was 2007 and Serbia outright rejected that plan, those terms are forever gone!!!

Now, Serbia must accept the terms laid down by the Republic Of Kosova!

Radical-Serbia should have ceased the moment back in 2007!

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

Kosovo was never serbian and will never be serbian either. Move back to siberia if you hate the west. There will be no "friendship" either. We will get rid of everything serbian in Kosovo. Enjoy

Serbian-Canadian

pre 6 godina

WE THE SERBIAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!!! EVER. DON'T SELL OUT OUR TERRITORY TO FOREIGNERS YOU IDIOTS!!!If we truly lost Kosovo why do they beg us everyday to accept that? HUH!? TELL ME WHY YOU TRAITORS!!!

L*O*G*I*C

pre 6 godina

I remember vividly Serbian commentators here saying that plan was dead.
They were right but the Constitution was borne out of the Ahtisaari plan.

You may as well propose to accept the Constitution and move on.


Sincerely,

Nikola Novakovic

pre 6 godina

The reality of Kosovo is: there is many Albanian refugees living illegally in Kosovo, they have come across the border from Albania into Yugoslavia during Titos rule, and many more after his rule...
The reality is, Kosovo is Serbia and if the people in Kosovo cannot prove they are Serbian citizens, then they should all be expelled to their country of origin... this is what America does with many Latinos and that is what Serbia should do with foreigners in Kosovo....

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Republic of kosova is 95% Albanian and has been albanian majority in a long time. When serboslavs occupied Kosova in 1912 it was 75% Albanian. We have a long history in Kosova. We have many traditions, culture, clothing, food, dances, songs, art, poetry, litterature, and architecture in Kosova. Many famous albanian clans have lived here and so did there ancestors as well. This is our home. Always have and always will be. We are not going anywere. And we shall fight for what belongs to us. This is our home. Like it or not

Sreten

pre 6 godina

Sounds really great!
We should have Draskovic for a president!
And every other entity or a state in the Balkan should have one.
For example, Croatia could have had one in 1995, or Bosnia should have Draskovic today. So they recognize there is RS and that majority of the people don't want to live in Bosnia! Reality, in other words. And Kosovo should have Draskoviqi....and recognize reality that in northern Kosovo people don't want to have anything to do with Kosovo...and Draskovic would, as president of Serbia, no doubt, recognize that Presevo Valley is also reality...
I have no problem with that.
But, all I see that he is advocating that WE should recognize some reality, while OTHERS should not, just as his Western sponsors do....
Now, that is BS!!!!!

sj

pre 6 godina

You already lost Kosovo, get ready to loose some more in the future
(Victory1999, 8 August 2017 15:52)

If Kosovo is lost then why are you on this site???? You spend more time trying to convince yourself than us LOL.

White Eagle Willy from South Philly

pre 6 godina

Kosovo was never serbian and will never be serbian either. Move back to siberia if you hate the west. There will be no "friendship" either. We will get rid of everything serbian in Kosovo. Enjoy
(Golden Eagle, 7 August 2017 19:04)

You keep messing with them Serbs and before you know it, you'll be laying white gold eggs, while your black eagle partners be laying zebra colored eggs.

Jovan

pre 6 godina

A western whore is singing western tunes...

But after all, there is nothing that can't be solved with modern electronics and a little bit of napalm.

When the time is right, our dear albanian guests will be sent home.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Golden Eagle, 8 August 2017 14:52)

When all his started there were 1.9 million living in Kosovo today its just over 900,000. Give it a short time there will be no Albos in Kosovo. There are very few Albos in southern Serbia and note that industry is not going anywhere near where Albos live LOL.

Ps B92 well done on your moderator’s vigilance in regard offensive words like gypsy and vermin.

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

The reality is, Kosovo is Serbia and if the people in Kosovo cannot prove they are Serbian citizens, then they should all be expelled to their country of origin... this is what America does with many Latinos and that is what Serbia should do with foreigners in Kosovo....
(Nikola Novakovic, 8 August 2017 03:38)


The reality is Serbia has neither the means or the balls to do what you are suggesting.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Golden Eagle - my, my...that's not very "Europe's youngest democracy" attitude you have there..tsk, tsk! You almost sound like you want to do what you accuse Mladic of doing in Srebrenica...come on, now...I thought you wanted to follow in "American value" freedom...but here you're talking like a Hitler...silly boy.

Free

pre 6 godina

Back in 1989 Serbs had the chance to settle everything peacefully with Croats, Bosnians, Albanians under very privileged terms but they chose WAR. And now they`ve lost FOUR wars you say "even the others should accept the reality".

You complain about "foreign interference". YOUR wars caused it. And call for "solution without foreign interlocutors". After ethnic cleansing you started in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo you want all them to forget everything and trust you just like nothing happened?

You live in the dreamworld.

Serbia trying to impede Bosnia and Kosovo having a normal life in every possible way (not necessary recognizing Kosovo) is more than enough to prove that you HAVEN`T change a bit.

Kent Prince

pre 6 godina

What drugs is this Vuk Draskovic on?

They will not stop until the entire eastern europe is inhabited with their ilk.

The right for self determination also allow them to claim independance anywhere in the world, even in China.

He even misunderstands the Un ruling on the matter. The UN ruled that they have a right to claim independance based on the right to self determination. The UN did not say Kosovo is independent nor did they say Kosovo can be independent.
If this was true then Kosovo would be a member of the UN9DVM4

sj

pre 6 godina

(Free, 8 August 2017 11:37)


I don’t give a figs what you want or wish for. Its going to be as the Serbs say and nothing else. We don’t care what you want, it’s what suits us. Kosovo is ours and so is half of Bosnia and there are parts of Croatia that have to be returned, so who cares about a normal life in Bosnia or Kosovo.

sj

pre 6 godina

@sj....yeah good luck with that
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 15:10)

Use your Pristina university qualifications to work this one out. In 1999 there were 1.9 million Albos in Kosovo, but today its just over 900,000 and that includes other ethnic groups LOL.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Jovan

When the time is right there will be no more serbia left. Nato will crush your gypsy country in seconds and shower you with missles and robots like the last time. We will take Presheva and southern serbia will fall to albanian hands in a couple of decades. KFOR can destroy your gypsy army alone and Uck will come in take over the rest. You already lost Kosovo, get ready to loose some more in the future

Mr. Ubiparip

pre 6 godina

Unfortunately Kosovars (Kosovo Albanians) will not accept any proposals coming from Serbia. They will do only what Americans tell them. Right now it not good time to keep resolving Kosovo issue since Americans are not interested in that. EU won't accept Serbia nor Kosovo in their Union never so there is no incentive to start any talks. Frozen conflicts are the norm of today without new Yalta to resolve all together. Kosovo, BiH, Moldova, Ukraine, Nagorho Karabah, etc... Americans, Germans, UK, France and Russians have to decide it all on our behalf since we together are useless. All the best.

sj

pre 6 godina

Do you honestly believe this? Have read any census figures to have come up with such a stupid figure?
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 16:11)

The census figure state that its 1.9 million and it also counts people that do not live there but are “registered to vote, but reality its just over 900,000. This article talks about it.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/kosovo-election-voting-parliamentary-poll-170611043819657.html

Kosovo's growth for 2017 will reach 4% as well, but that is only due to remittances by family members back to Kosovo see that part under economy in focus in the same attachment.

Brian.

pre 6 godina

There must be a referendum if you want Kosovo removed from the constitution or a referendum on a new constitution without Kosovo. This must go to referendum.

Guest

pre 6 godina

The Albanians had agreed to all those terms long ago, now they will refuse everything and as they grow in large numbers in the Balkans and in their diaspora they'll make sure to repay those that were so cruel to them ten fold. Everyone could have parted ways in a peaceful manner with everyone getting what they want, however the Serbs were arrogant in their stance towards Kosovo a country that has less Serbs residing in it than every other of the former Yugoslavia. The way things are going the Albanians have mostly given up on EU membership and are looking to reunify their lands back once again. They have historically been loved by both Rome and The Ottomans for their brutality and savagery, They will be loved by the Americans too who will use them to rid the region of Russian and Turkish influence. Have fun dealing with the most tribal savages in Europe, once they are given free reign by their American masters. I blame the Serbian politicians, who used Kosovo as a bargaining chip to gain the votes and investments of Nationalist and anti Albanians in the region. We need to keep them away from us not intergrate them in to our countries, for they are the same people who abandoned Christianity and embraced Islam just so they can carry weapons on their person.

Free

pre 6 godina

Serbian politician always talk about "accepting the reality"and they always love long gone deals.

It is the same pattern that keeps repeating: They were offered a deal, they refused the deal calling it "unacceptable" and talking the same BS about "Serbian history, pride, ancestors, cradle, Jerusalem, 1389, never ever ever" and when the others move on and things change they dig in the past and bring in long dead deals and call it "reality".

They did this with Rambouillet, NATO, UNMIK, EULEX, Ahtisaari Plan, Brussels Agreement (even when they signed NOT to obstruct Kosovo membership into International Organization they still call for not allowing Kosovo into International Organization).

Now they want Rambouillet, UNMIK, EULEX, Ahtisaari Agreement and have partnership agreements with NATO. And when Brussels Agreement will die, they will still be calling for "reality" and Brussels Agreement.

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

sj

Kosovo is not yours you gypsy. No one cares what serbs have to say. They are all powerless and impotent and cant do anything but watch. We will erase everything serbian in Kovoso and replace it with albanian. The serbian vermin in northen Kosovo will be kicked out and Presheva will join Kosovo as albanian territory. If Kosovo is "yours" why do you have zero control over it and why does it recongnized by more than half of the world as an independent state? We will make sure that you will loose southern serbia as well in the future. Then there will be no serbia anymore :)

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

You really dont know when to stop digging holes for your self do you? So your whole 900K is based on you were in Kosovo in 2015?

sj^2 = 0

pre 6 godina

I admit that article is poorly written. It should have stated that “of the 1.9 million that live in Kosovo 500,000 live abroad, and nearly half of the 1.9 million is registered to vote and that includes people living abroad”.
...
As I said its worth while visiting to see the empty villages. I certainly was in Kosovo in 2015 and it surprised me.
(sj, 9 August 2017 09:27)

Yes, that's what the article should say in order to match your fantasies, but it is not the way things work.

First you provide a link that totally contradicts what you claim, and next you tell us you were in Kosovo in 2015 and saw empty villages and concluded that the 900K must live in Kosovo. Hehe.. Eeee lele majko, the stupidity!

sj

pre 6 godina

(sj, 8 August 2017 14:03)

[link]

lol
(Free, 8 August 2017 14:28)

These are all part of anti terrorist drills and Serbia has held these outside with NATO and this has never been a secret. In fact it has had many more military exercises with Russian forces in Russia and Serbia, so what’s your point?

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.

Free

pre 6 godina

(sj, 9 August 2017 10:56) # Comment link

First you bring an article to back your claims, then you call it a stupid article and then you say the article you brought is lying. lol

Too much rakia? Or it`s all natural serbian intelligence?

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

".... there were 1.9 million Albos in Kosovo, but today its just over 900,000"

Do you honestly believe this? Have read any census figures to have come up with such a stupid figure?

1+sj=0

pre 6 godina

@sj
The article talks about 1,9 million registered voters you stupid, of which half million live abroad.
So if there are 1,4 registered voters inside Kosovo what do you think the nr of citizens is?
Hehe.. Stupid bre!

0+sj=0,0

pre 6 godina

@sj
Here is what the link you attached says:

"About 1.9 million Kosovars, of which nearly half a million live abroad, are registered to vote in the third election since the country declared independence in 2008."

Now, if you have basic understanding of the English language you should realize that there are 1,9 million registered _voters_. Not citizens, but registered voters. Of which half million live abroad. So your conclusion that nr citizens is smaller than the voters can only be explained by the fact that you:
1. Are ignorant
2. Are lying (to yourself)
3. Do not understand English
3. 1, 2 and 3

Because what you say is simply not physically possible.

Putinlover

pre 6 godina

I dont blame serbians or albanians I blame the Ottomans for giving the power and lands to serbia to control way back and you can thank the brankovic clan for that

sj

pre 6 godina

(1+sj=0, 8 August 2017 18:52)

Its like talking to a chimp. I know what I attached and yes it talks about a population of 1.9 million of which half million live abroad. The register voter part should be just about 950,000 which includes the people that live abroad and those that live in Kosovo, that is unless babies and school children can vote.

That means for the first time an attempt has been made to talk about “Kosovo’s real population levels”.

In fact the numbers are much higher since in the first 2 months of the great exodus 200,000 Albanians left Kosovo. Even today they are leaving in large numbers so I’ll stick to my figure of just a little over 900,000.

This type of language “Hehe.. Stupid bre” only proves that you are knuckle dragger whose intellectual prowess can fit on the head of a pin. Time for another bong LOl.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 18:04)



I admit that article is poorly written. It should have stated that “of the 1.9 million that live in Kosovo 500,000 live abroad, and nearly half of the 1.9 million is registered to vote and that includes people living abroad”.

Kosovo has a population of 1.9 million pre-great exodus and today they are leaving regularly so unless your popping out 10 babies per year generally populations decline. As I said its worth while visiting to see the empty villages. I certainly was in Kosovo in 2015 and it surprised me.

sj

pre 6 godina

(0+sj=0,0, 9 August 2017 09:57)

1.9 million registered voters is pure fantasy mate and that is why I said the article was badly written. Kosovo has on its books a population of 1.9 million. You cannot have 100% of your population voting since there are children and others not capable of voting, but hey you are Albanians so perhaps everyone can vote.



Australia has a population of 24 million and it has 15.8 million registered voters. Get the difference?

Where do you live?

FFS!

pre 6 godina

Appendix B, Rambouillet Agreement. Read it moron. It demand to freedom of movement of NATO forced throughout Yugoslavia. NATO wanted war and it chose war, like Slovenia, like Croatia and like Bosnia. Fuck the minorities with Deutschland Uber Alles blessing and the other closeted nazi states.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 18:04)

Yes and Kosovo also has 30% unemployment too. Much like US unemployment figure of 4.7% which even Trump laughs at. I attached the article because its the closest thing to some truth on stats especially the so called growth.

If you think that Kosovo has 1.4 million then keep on deluding yourself because until I posted this article you would have argued that its 1.9 million. I suggest that you buy a ticket and visit Kosovo.

If Pristina keeps such good data then how many of your Albos suffer from cancers due to depleted uranium? Does not exist because they don't keep any records.

No word on the growth part though LOL.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

Sorry Vuk, that was 2007 and Serbia outright rejected that plan, those terms are forever gone!!!

Now, Serbia must accept the terms laid down by the Republic Of Kosova!

Radical-Serbia should have ceased the moment back in 2007!

Serbian-Canadian

pre 6 godina

WE THE SERBIAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER SURRENDER!!! EVER. DON'T SELL OUT OUR TERRITORY TO FOREIGNERS YOU IDIOTS!!!If we truly lost Kosovo why do they beg us everyday to accept that? HUH!? TELL ME WHY YOU TRAITORS!!!

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

Kosovo was never serbian and will never be serbian either. Move back to siberia if you hate the west. There will be no "friendship" either. We will get rid of everything serbian in Kosovo. Enjoy

Nikola Novakovic

pre 6 godina

The reality of Kosovo is: there is many Albanian refugees living illegally in Kosovo, they have come across the border from Albania into Yugoslavia during Titos rule, and many more after his rule...
The reality is, Kosovo is Serbia and if the people in Kosovo cannot prove they are Serbian citizens, then they should all be expelled to their country of origin... this is what America does with many Latinos and that is what Serbia should do with foreigners in Kosovo....

Free

pre 6 godina

Back in 1989 Serbs had the chance to settle everything peacefully with Croats, Bosnians, Albanians under very privileged terms but they chose WAR. And now they`ve lost FOUR wars you say "even the others should accept the reality".

You complain about "foreign interference". YOUR wars caused it. And call for "solution without foreign interlocutors". After ethnic cleansing you started in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo you want all them to forget everything and trust you just like nothing happened?

You live in the dreamworld.

Serbia trying to impede Bosnia and Kosovo having a normal life in every possible way (not necessary recognizing Kosovo) is more than enough to prove that you HAVEN`T change a bit.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 6 godina

I wonder if George Soros is still giving him money or he is on drugs. Either way, he is a "TRAITOR". First Vuk Brankovic now this "PAMETNJAKOVIC". He deserves to be tried for treason.

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Republic of kosova is 95% Albanian and has been albanian majority in a long time. When serboslavs occupied Kosova in 1912 it was 75% Albanian. We have a long history in Kosova. We have many traditions, culture, clothing, food, dances, songs, art, poetry, litterature, and architecture in Kosova. Many famous albanian clans have lived here and so did there ancestors as well. This is our home. Always have and always will be. We are not going anywere. And we shall fight for what belongs to us. This is our home. Like it or not

Victory1999

pre 6 godina

Jovan

When the time is right there will be no more serbia left. Nato will crush your gypsy country in seconds and shower you with missles and robots like the last time. We will take Presheva and southern serbia will fall to albanian hands in a couple of decades. KFOR can destroy your gypsy army alone and Uck will come in take over the rest. You already lost Kosovo, get ready to loose some more in the future

The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

The reality is, Kosovo is Serbia and if the people in Kosovo cannot prove they are Serbian citizens, then they should all be expelled to their country of origin... this is what America does with many Latinos and that is what Serbia should do with foreigners in Kosovo....
(Nikola Novakovic, 8 August 2017 03:38)


The reality is Serbia has neither the means or the balls to do what you are suggesting.

L*O*G*I*C

pre 6 godina

I remember vividly Serbian commentators here saying that plan was dead.
They were right but the Constitution was borne out of the Ahtisaari plan.

You may as well propose to accept the Constitution and move on.


Sincerely,

Golden Eagle

pre 6 godina

sj

Kosovo is not yours you gypsy. No one cares what serbs have to say. They are all powerless and impotent and cant do anything but watch. We will erase everything serbian in Kovoso and replace it with albanian. The serbian vermin in northen Kosovo will be kicked out and Presheva will join Kosovo as albanian territory. If Kosovo is "yours" why do you have zero control over it and why does it recongnized by more than half of the world as an independent state? We will make sure that you will loose southern serbia as well in the future. Then there will be no serbia anymore :)

White Eagle Willy from South Philly

pre 6 godina

Kosovo was never serbian and will never be serbian either. Move back to siberia if you hate the west. There will be no "friendship" either. We will get rid of everything serbian in Kosovo. Enjoy
(Golden Eagle, 7 August 2017 19:04)

You keep messing with them Serbs and before you know it, you'll be laying white gold eggs, while your black eagle partners be laying zebra colored eggs.

Guest

pre 6 godina

The Albanians had agreed to all those terms long ago, now they will refuse everything and as they grow in large numbers in the Balkans and in their diaspora they'll make sure to repay those that were so cruel to them ten fold. Everyone could have parted ways in a peaceful manner with everyone getting what they want, however the Serbs were arrogant in their stance towards Kosovo a country that has less Serbs residing in it than every other of the former Yugoslavia. The way things are going the Albanians have mostly given up on EU membership and are looking to reunify their lands back once again. They have historically been loved by both Rome and The Ottomans for their brutality and savagery, They will be loved by the Americans too who will use them to rid the region of Russian and Turkish influence. Have fun dealing with the most tribal savages in Europe, once they are given free reign by their American masters. I blame the Serbian politicians, who used Kosovo as a bargaining chip to gain the votes and investments of Nationalist and anti Albanians in the region. We need to keep them away from us not intergrate them in to our countries, for they are the same people who abandoned Christianity and embraced Islam just so they can carry weapons on their person.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Free, 8 August 2017 11:37)


I don’t give a figs what you want or wish for. Its going to be as the Serbs say and nothing else. We don’t care what you want, it’s what suits us. Kosovo is ours and so is half of Bosnia and there are parts of Croatia that have to be returned, so who cares about a normal life in Bosnia or Kosovo.

sj

pre 6 godina

(Golden Eagle, 8 August 2017 14:52)

When all his started there were 1.9 million living in Kosovo today its just over 900,000. Give it a short time there will be no Albos in Kosovo. There are very few Albos in southern Serbia and note that industry is not going anywhere near where Albos live LOL.

Ps B92 well done on your moderator’s vigilance in regard offensive words like gypsy and vermin.

Sreten

pre 6 godina

Sounds really great!
We should have Draskovic for a president!
And every other entity or a state in the Balkan should have one.
For example, Croatia could have had one in 1995, or Bosnia should have Draskovic today. So they recognize there is RS and that majority of the people don't want to live in Bosnia! Reality, in other words. And Kosovo should have Draskoviqi....and recognize reality that in northern Kosovo people don't want to have anything to do with Kosovo...and Draskovic would, as president of Serbia, no doubt, recognize that Presevo Valley is also reality...
I have no problem with that.
But, all I see that he is advocating that WE should recognize some reality, while OTHERS should not, just as his Western sponsors do....
Now, that is BS!!!!!

Jovan

pre 6 godina

A western whore is singing western tunes...

But after all, there is nothing that can't be solved with modern electronics and a little bit of napalm.

When the time is right, our dear albanian guests will be sent home.

sj

pre 6 godina

@sj....yeah good luck with that
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 15:10)

Use your Pristina university qualifications to work this one out. In 1999 there were 1.9 million Albos in Kosovo, but today its just over 900,000 and that includes other ethnic groups LOL.

Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Golden Eagle - my, my...that's not very "Europe's youngest democracy" attitude you have there..tsk, tsk! You almost sound like you want to do what you accuse Mladic of doing in Srebrenica...come on, now...I thought you wanted to follow in "American value" freedom...but here you're talking like a Hitler...silly boy.

Mr. Ubiparip

pre 6 godina

Unfortunately Kosovars (Kosovo Albanians) will not accept any proposals coming from Serbia. They will do only what Americans tell them. Right now it not good time to keep resolving Kosovo issue since Americans are not interested in that. EU won't accept Serbia nor Kosovo in their Union never so there is no incentive to start any talks. Frozen conflicts are the norm of today without new Yalta to resolve all together. Kosovo, BiH, Moldova, Ukraine, Nagorho Karabah, etc... Americans, Germans, UK, France and Russians have to decide it all on our behalf since we together are useless. All the best.

Free

pre 6 godina

Serbian politician always talk about "accepting the reality"and they always love long gone deals.

It is the same pattern that keeps repeating: They were offered a deal, they refused the deal calling it "unacceptable" and talking the same BS about "Serbian history, pride, ancestors, cradle, Jerusalem, 1389, never ever ever" and when the others move on and things change they dig in the past and bring in long dead deals and call it "reality".

They did this with Rambouillet, NATO, UNMIK, EULEX, Ahtisaari Plan, Brussels Agreement (even when they signed NOT to obstruct Kosovo membership into International Organization they still call for not allowing Kosovo into International Organization).

Now they want Rambouillet, UNMIK, EULEX, Ahtisaari Agreement and have partnership agreements with NATO. And when Brussels Agreement will die, they will still be calling for "reality" and Brussels Agreement.

Kent Prince

pre 6 godina

What drugs is this Vuk Draskovic on?

They will not stop until the entire eastern europe is inhabited with their ilk.

The right for self determination also allow them to claim independance anywhere in the world, even in China.

He even misunderstands the Un ruling on the matter. The UN ruled that they have a right to claim independance based on the right to self determination. The UN did not say Kosovo is independent nor did they say Kosovo can be independent.
If this was true then Kosovo would be a member of the UN9DVM4

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

".... there were 1.9 million Albos in Kosovo, but today its just over 900,000"

Do you honestly believe this? Have read any census figures to have come up with such a stupid figure?

sj

pre 6 godina

You already lost Kosovo, get ready to loose some more in the future
(Victory1999, 8 August 2017 15:52)

If Kosovo is lost then why are you on this site???? You spend more time trying to convince yourself than us LOL.

1+sj=0

pre 6 godina

@sj
The article talks about 1,9 million registered voters you stupid, of which half million live abroad.
So if there are 1,4 registered voters inside Kosovo what do you think the nr of citizens is?
Hehe.. Stupid bre!

sj

pre 6 godina

(sj, 8 August 2017 14:03)

[link]

lol
(Free, 8 August 2017 14:28)

These are all part of anti terrorist drills and Serbia has held these outside with NATO and this has never been a secret. In fact it has had many more military exercises with Russian forces in Russia and Serbia, so what’s your point?

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.

sj

pre 6 godina

(1+sj=0, 8 August 2017 18:52)

Its like talking to a chimp. I know what I attached and yes it talks about a population of 1.9 million of which half million live abroad. The register voter part should be just about 950,000 which includes the people that live abroad and those that live in Kosovo, that is unless babies and school children can vote.

That means for the first time an attempt has been made to talk about “Kosovo’s real population levels”.

In fact the numbers are much higher since in the first 2 months of the great exodus 200,000 Albanians left Kosovo. Even today they are leaving in large numbers so I’ll stick to my figure of just a little over 900,000.

This type of language “Hehe.. Stupid bre” only proves that you are knuckle dragger whose intellectual prowess can fit on the head of a pin. Time for another bong LOl.

Brian.

pre 6 godina

There must be a referendum if you want Kosovo removed from the constitution or a referendum on a new constitution without Kosovo. This must go to referendum.

sj

pre 6 godina

Do you honestly believe this? Have read any census figures to have come up with such a stupid figure?
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 16:11)

The census figure state that its 1.9 million and it also counts people that do not live there but are “registered to vote, but reality its just over 900,000. This article talks about it.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/kosovo-election-voting-parliamentary-poll-170611043819657.html

Kosovo's growth for 2017 will reach 4% as well, but that is only due to remittances by family members back to Kosovo see that part under economy in focus in the same attachment.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 18:04)

Yes and Kosovo also has 30% unemployment too. Much like US unemployment figure of 4.7% which even Trump laughs at. I attached the article because its the closest thing to some truth on stats especially the so called growth.

If you think that Kosovo has 1.4 million then keep on deluding yourself because until I posted this article you would have argued that its 1.9 million. I suggest that you buy a ticket and visit Kosovo.

If Pristina keeps such good data then how many of your Albos suffer from cancers due to depleted uranium? Does not exist because they don't keep any records.

No word on the growth part though LOL.

sj

pre 6 godina

sj, I refuse to believe that you lack such basic comprehension skills. that quoted figure is about voters, not population. you claimed only 900000 people reside in Kosovo, i do know you have a habit of throwing bullshit numbers about, but even for you, thats a pretty stupid estimate.
(Nikolle, 8 August 2017 18:04)



I admit that article is poorly written. It should have stated that “of the 1.9 million that live in Kosovo 500,000 live abroad, and nearly half of the 1.9 million is registered to vote and that includes people living abroad”.

Kosovo has a population of 1.9 million pre-great exodus and today they are leaving regularly so unless your popping out 10 babies per year generally populations decline. As I said its worth while visiting to see the empty villages. I certainly was in Kosovo in 2015 and it surprised me.

sj

pre 6 godina

(0+sj=0,0, 9 August 2017 09:57)

1.9 million registered voters is pure fantasy mate and that is why I said the article was badly written. Kosovo has on its books a population of 1.9 million. You cannot have 100% of your population voting since there are children and others not capable of voting, but hey you are Albanians so perhaps everyone can vote.



Australia has a population of 24 million and it has 15.8 million registered voters. Get the difference?

Where do you live?

FFS!

pre 6 godina

Appendix B, Rambouillet Agreement. Read it moron. It demand to freedom of movement of NATO forced throughout Yugoslavia. NATO wanted war and it chose war, like Slovenia, like Croatia and like Bosnia. Fuck the minorities with Deutschland Uber Alles blessing and the other closeted nazi states.

0+sj=0,0

pre 6 godina

@sj
Here is what the link you attached says:

"About 1.9 million Kosovars, of which nearly half a million live abroad, are registered to vote in the third election since the country declared independence in 2008."

Now, if you have basic understanding of the English language you should realize that there are 1,9 million registered _voters_. Not citizens, but registered voters. Of which half million live abroad. So your conclusion that nr citizens is smaller than the voters can only be explained by the fact that you:
1. Are ignorant
2. Are lying (to yourself)
3. Do not understand English
3. 1, 2 and 3

Because what you say is simply not physically possible.

Nikolle

pre 6 godina

You really dont know when to stop digging holes for your self do you? So your whole 900K is based on you were in Kosovo in 2015?

sj^2 = 0

pre 6 godina

I admit that article is poorly written. It should have stated that “of the 1.9 million that live in Kosovo 500,000 live abroad, and nearly half of the 1.9 million is registered to vote and that includes people living abroad”.
...
As I said its worth while visiting to see the empty villages. I certainly was in Kosovo in 2015 and it surprised me.
(sj, 9 August 2017 09:27)

Yes, that's what the article should say in order to match your fantasies, but it is not the way things work.

First you provide a link that totally contradicts what you claim, and next you tell us you were in Kosovo in 2015 and saw empty villages and concluded that the 900K must live in Kosovo. Hehe.. Eeee lele majko, the stupidity!

Free

pre 6 godina

(sj, 9 August 2017 10:56) # Comment link

First you bring an article to back your claims, then you call it a stupid article and then you say the article you brought is lying. lol

Too much rakia? Or it`s all natural serbian intelligence?

Putinlover

pre 6 godina

I dont blame serbians or albanians I blame the Ottomans for giving the power and lands to serbia to control way back and you can thank the brankovic clan for that