It would be humiliating to negotiate with Haradinaj - Vucic

Vucic and his portly sidekick Dacic should be reminded they do not get the chance to choose who they negotiate with on the Kosovar side. Furthermore, they also don't have the right to decide when and on which issues the Albanians bring to the table.

He doesn't want someone who would provoke Serbia .. but what about those who provoke Kosovo by sending train full of nationalists riddled with propaganda and Slavic slogans and then openly states that if any Serbs are mistreated they would invade Kosovo .. get off your high horse you bootleg Putin looking like doodlebob whenever you talk

What does he think people think of him when they talk to him? The guy who said "for every killed Serbs we'll kill 100 Muslims". Funny because talking to Thaci he had no problems.

Every day I get more convinced that the Serb society is a psychotic society. There hasn't been a day in the last 20 years where Serb politicians or Serb media hasn't mentioned Albanians. Give it a break already.

On the contrary! It would be hilarious and a pleasure to watch this war criminal be forced to negotiate away Kosovo's "sovereignty" because it's part of the EU's mandate on Kosovo normalizing relations, even though Mr. Tough Guy is campaigning against everything Kosovo is told to provide. Thaci whored himself out enough. Time for Rambo Ramush to embarrass himself in exchange for immunity from prosecution :)

And the one who committed the crime it's you mr Vucic

"We can't be the only ones who don't like something - they, too, could have some surprises there," he added.

How childish is that!!!

It is right for Serbia to arm itself and ask for Kosovo to disarm....☺

Then Šešelj should be part of the Serbian negotiation team.

That would be fun

I do not like Harajdinaj, will not vote for him or his coalition.

With that said, Vucic who are you to say who should be in Negotiation team, this is not a surprise as this person will be PM of Kosovo if his coalition wins.

If you bring PM of Serbia who ever you chose sure thing why not, make Seselj PM he is your Mentor after all - it would be fair.

Why is he making it a issue, he could say we dont chose who we negotiating with as Albanian leaders are chosen by Albanian population like we are representatives of Serbian people.

Again, I do not like Hrajdinaj, nor Thaqi but makes you look a bit out of touch, Milosevic-style as to who should rep Kosovo Albanians.

On the other hand, you met Thaqi and are you saying that Thaqi is innocent?

Easy. Draw a line - don't talk to him.

Make it clear that you do not accept any diplomatic immunity on his behalf.

If he shows up in the wrong place - arrest him.

If you don't want to hear about Albania then don't come to a Serbian site. Now that's really simple.
Why don't you give us a break and stay away from us? Maybe we are also fed up with dealing with Albanians day in day out.
I keep saying this. We don't want to hear what you have to say so we keep away from Albanian media. That's a smart thing to do.
But then, who ever said that Albanians are smart?
(Peggy, 19 May 2017 01:25)

Your obsession with Albanians is psychotic. I don't mean you, personally. I mean your society. Because of that we can't allow, that psychotic voice to be the only voice the outside world hears.

Its the Albanian population that bamboozles me... why would they agree to a person who will not take "Kosovo" anywhere??
(Watcher, 19 May 2017 02:41)

It's not clear where do you want "Kosovo" to be taken to lol

@Peggy: "If you don't want to hear about Albania then don't come to a Serbian site. Now that's really simple. "


You obviously fail to see the glaring contradiction in your own statement. Normally one wouldn't expect to read a lot of news about Albania/Albanians/Kosova in a Serbian site, just like there's is very little, to almost no news about Serbia in Albanian sites. Albanian press mostly ignores news from Serbia.

But here, in a Serbian news site each day there are about 30-40% of news articles (and a lot of them fake news to begin with) dedicated to Albanians in Alb/Kos/Macd, etc. Why is that? What is this obsession?

The reason most of the Albanian commentators come to this site is that it is in English - apparently aiming an international audience - and because of the barrage of lies, propaganda, misinformation that this site puts day in and day out about us.

You know what's really simple? Don't write trash about Albanians and Albanians won't feel compelled to come here and refute your trash. You also have the Serbian language version, where you're free to talk whatever gibberish you want to talk to each-other. But we're not logs - we're not going to stay silent at whatever slander you want to broadcast about us. Alright? Got that? Talk about yourselves, don't talk about us. If you make it your business spreading lies about us, we're going to make it our business to refute those lies, and right in your face if it needs be. It's that simple.

Get over it.

It would be humiliating to be a Serb which this piece of .... and the majority of the Slav commenters on this site clearly represent.

Are you seriously going to tell us what we can or can't do?
You don't see that you are sick ones.
If what we say bothers you so much why are you always here reading it?
Seriously why?
We are not obsessed with you. We stay away from you and your lies.
You are the ones obsessed with us because you simply cannot stay away from us. You don't see that?
You're telling me that I should stay away from this site because it shows obsession I have with you and you seriously can't see what is wrong with that.
(Peggy, 22 May 2017 04:16)

I'm not telling you how to do anything. Albanian newspapers do not have non-stop articles about Serbia. You guys never stop talking about us. That is an obsession. When you stop talking about us, we'll stop coming here. It's simple.

@ Prizreni You're a lier, who taught you to lie this way? I've begged all of you to go comment on croatian and albanian sites who are all focused on what serbs do or say. You declined because you know you'll be slaped for any word of ignorance you write. Plus you're all afraid fear is the only thing you recognize straight on the only motivation you live for. Peggy is a lady who writes the truth and truth is theres no other media as b92 constantly reporting positive things on albanians their history culture literature, albania's prime minister etc. You're here out of the misery you live in the getos and states houses of the west, you're here because you all cry about what you lost with jugoslavia's breakup.Think twice before replying mediocre lier and remember you're loosing the only real albanians who would have ever run to save you.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 20 May 2017 19:51)

Stop lying dude. Koha Ditore for example is nothing like B92. Every other article here is about Albanians. That is just psychotic. It is not normal for a whole society to be obsessed with us. No healthy society obsesses this much. Open the newspapers in Albania. At most you have an article per month about Serbia. What you see in B92 and Serb portals, is just sickness. I read more about Edi Rama here than I do in Kosova Albanian papers. I read more about Thaci and Haradinaj here than I read from Tirana papers.This is just madness.

"Think twice before replying mediocre lier and remember you're loosing the only real albanians who would have ever run to save you. "

Let me get this straight, are you supposedly that "real albanian", and the last person who'd ever save me when all hope is lost? But to save me from what?
For all the barking that you do, you can't string two coherent sentences together; I doubt you'd be able to save yourself from your t-shirt if it came to that, let alone volunteer to save anyone else.

Every day I get more convinced that the Serb society is a psychotic society. There hasn't been a day in the last 20 years where Serb politicians or Serb media hasn't mentioned Albanians. Give it a break already.
(J, 18 May 2017 21:49)
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If you don't want to hear about Albania then don't come to a Serbian site. Now that's really simple.
Why don't you give us a break and stay away from us? Maybe we are also fed up with dealing with Albanians day in day out.
I keep saying this. We don't want to hear what you have to say so we keep away from Albanian media. That's a smart thing to do.
But then, who ever said that Albanians are smart?

@ Prizreni You're a lier, who taught you to lie this way? I've begged all of you to go comment on croatian and albanian sites who are all focused on what serbs do or say. You declined because you know you'll be slaped for any word of ignorance you write. Plus you're all afraid fear is the only thing you recognize straight on the only motivation you live for. Peggy is a lady who writes the truth and truth is theres no other media as b92 constantly reporting positive things on albanians their history culture literature, albania's prime minister etc. You're here out of the misery you live in the getos and states houses of the west, you're here because you all cry about what you lost with jugoslavia's breakup.Think twice before replying mediocre lier and remember you're loosing the only real albanians who would have ever run to save you.

@jdakova- it's not Vucic who surprises me, he can do whatever he wants. Its the Albanian population that bamboozles me... why would they agree to a person who will not take "Kosovo" anywhere?? But now I understand, my Albanian co workers explained... there's nothing the people can do! "Kosovo is run by criminals who will not hesitate to kill if you open your mouth! My Albs friends are heartbroken with the people Kosovo" is putting forward! They also have a few choice words for Alb and Srb nationalist on this site... go to hell!!!i agree!

@icj1 - lol, how about just "Forward", sweetie...for starters;) There are young, smart, educated & logical Albanians out there, they just can't get to where they can make a difference because slimeballs like Thaci, Limaj, harindaj,etc continue to run their mafia with force and crime! No one can blame the "citizens", they know what happens when you "vote" differently...it's no different than any other Balkan country, including Srbija! However, in the more developed Balkan countries, the politicians know that they MUST give crumbs back to the people otherwise the pitchforks await. In "Kosovo", the citizens can't do s**t so we all just spin our wheels with this Dialoge;)We all, as Balkan people, know that's how things work, no matter who you are!

Wrong again genius, obviously I was not referring to myself but to those who know how to put together in two coherent sentences comments like "you're a blatant liar" and "Peggy is a real lady". Me? Why would I? Im not even albanian remember? Seriously what the hell do I share with those strange beings who have the guts to raise a statue to a pedophile like Bill Klinton? Why the f* Im even considering answering to a blatant liar?

Your obsession with Albanians is psychotic. I don't mean you, personally. I mean your society. Because of that we can't allow, that psychotic voice to be the only voice the outside world hears.
(J, 19 May 2017 15:15)
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Are you seriously going to tell us what we can or can't do?
You don't see that you are sick ones.
If what we say bothers you so much why are you always here reading it?
Seriously why?
We are not obsessed with you. We stay away from you and your lies.
You are the ones obsessed with us because you simply cannot stay away from us. You don't see that?
You're telling me that I should stay away from this site because it shows obsession I have with you and you seriously can't see what is wrong with that.

Your obsession with Albanians is psychotic. I don't mean you, personally. I mean your society. Because of that we can't allow, that psychotic voice to be the only voice the outside world hears.
(J, 19 May 2017 15:15)
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Are you seriously going to tell us what we can or can't do?
You don't see that you are sick ones.
If what we say bothers you so much why are you always here reading it?
Seriously why?
We are not obsessed with you. We stay away from you and your lies.
You are the ones obsessed with us because you simply cannot stay away from us. You don't see that?
You're telling me that I should stay away from this site because it shows obsession I have with you and you seriously can't see what is wrong with that.

When you are in that moment reading from the king of liars, which suffer from the double or triple personality, blaming someone else for a liar.
Why I'm not surprised?

"Me? Why would I? Im not even albanian remember? Seriously what the hell do I share with those strange beings who have the guts to raise a statue to a pedophile like Bill Klinton? Why the f* Im even considering answering to a blatant liar?"


Yeah, I have no idea either why you've f* decided to respond to me, and even less of an idea what the hell it is that you are trying to say. What is your point? Seriously.

Oh, now you're volunteering someone else, some mysterious "real albanians" (and you're not even Albanian - the irony!), to come to our rescue from some unspecified and even more mysterious threat. You know what? Tell your imaginary friends to stay in bed, no one needs their help. We're just fine.

You're calling me a liar, yet you use as a moniker the name of our national hero with an Albanian spelling, and not being an Albanian yourself you clearly are deceiving. Sorry, but you just proved that you're a liar yourself.

I like Skenderbeu whats wrong with being a french and calling myself Skenderbeu? You're probably not aware of the fact that in France we adore Skenderbeu because he fought and died for our christian values. Skenderbeu is not a commercial brand he belongs to mankind so why not? If you call yourself Napolon Bonaparti you think french would complain? I dont think so.

Ok, fine, be Skenderbeu then. But what's up with all the hate? What could Albanians possibly have done to the French to draw your ire?

I like Skenderbeu whats wrong with being a french and calling myself Skenderbeu? You're probably not aware of the fact that in France we adore Skenderbeu because he fought and died for our christian values. Skenderbeu is not a commercial brand he belongs to mankind so why not? If you call yourself Napolon Bonaparti you think french would complain? I dont think so.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 22 May 2017 19:45)


Napolon Bonaparti was also Albanian.

I see, so you're trying to silence us by being annoying.
How's that working for you?
(Peggy, 23 May 2017 04:24)

You're the one bothered by our presence here. If there's anyone trying to silence anybody else that's you. You want every other article to be about Albanians yet you don't want any Albanians here. That's just bizarre to say the least; but quite symptomatic of the Serb condition.

I'm not telling you how to do anything. Albanian newspapers do not have non-stop articles about Serbia. You guys never stop talking about us. That is an obsession. When you stop talking about us, we'll stop coming here. It's simple.
(J, 22 May 2017 13:10)
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I see, so you're trying to silence us by being annoying.
How's that working for you?

"We can't be the only ones who don't like something - they, too, could have some surprises there," he added.

How childish is that!!!

And the one who committed the crime it's you mr Vucic

On the contrary! It would be hilarious and a pleasure to watch this war criminal be forced to negotiate away Kosovo's "sovereignty" because it's part of the EU's mandate on Kosovo normalizing relations, even though Mr. Tough Guy is campaigning against everything Kosovo is told to provide. Thaci whored himself out enough. Time for Rambo Ramush to embarrass himself in exchange for immunity from prosecution :)

Vucic and his portly sidekick Dacic should be reminded they do not get the chance to choose who they negotiate with on the Kosovar side. Furthermore, they also don't have the right to decide when and on which issues the Albanians bring to the table.

Easy. Draw a line - don't talk to him.

Make it clear that you do not accept any diplomatic immunity on his behalf.

If he shows up in the wrong place - arrest him.

Every day I get more convinced that the Serb society is a psychotic society. There hasn't been a day in the last 20 years where Serb politicians or Serb media hasn't mentioned Albanians. Give it a break already.

He doesn't want someone who would provoke Serbia .. but what about those who provoke Kosovo by sending train full of nationalists riddled with propaganda and Slavic slogans and then openly states that if any Serbs are mistreated they would invade Kosovo .. get off your high horse you bootleg Putin looking like doodlebob whenever you talk

I do not like Harajdinaj, will not vote for him or his coalition.

With that said, Vucic who are you to say who should be in Negotiation team, this is not a surprise as this person will be PM of Kosovo if his coalition wins.

If you bring PM of Serbia who ever you chose sure thing why not, make Seselj PM he is your Mentor after all - it would be fair.

Why is he making it a issue, he could say we dont chose who we negotiating with as Albanian leaders are chosen by Albanian population like we are representatives of Serbian people.

Again, I do not like Hrajdinaj, nor Thaqi but makes you look a bit out of touch, Milosevic-style as to who should rep Kosovo Albanians.

On the other hand, you met Thaqi and are you saying that Thaqi is innocent?

What does he think people think of him when they talk to him? The guy who said "for every killed Serbs we'll kill 100 Muslims". Funny because talking to Thaci he had no problems.

Every day I get more convinced that the Serb society is a psychotic society. There hasn't been a day in the last 20 years where Serb politicians or Serb media hasn't mentioned Albanians. Give it a break already.
(J, 18 May 2017 21:49)
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If you don't want to hear about Albania then don't come to a Serbian site. Now that's really simple.
Why don't you give us a break and stay away from us? Maybe we are also fed up with dealing with Albanians day in day out.
I keep saying this. We don't want to hear what you have to say so we keep away from Albanian media. That's a smart thing to do.
But then, who ever said that Albanians are smart?

It is right for Serbia to arm itself and ask for Kosovo to disarm....☺

Then Šešelj should be part of the Serbian negotiation team.

That would be fun

@jdakova- it's not Vucic who surprises me, he can do whatever he wants. Its the Albanian population that bamboozles me... why would they agree to a person who will not take "Kosovo" anywhere?? But now I understand, my Albanian co workers explained... there's nothing the people can do! "Kosovo is run by criminals who will not hesitate to kill if you open your mouth! My Albs friends are heartbroken with the people Kosovo" is putting forward! They also have a few choice words for Alb and Srb nationalist on this site... go to hell!!!i agree!

@ Prizreni You're a lier, who taught you to lie this way? I've begged all of you to go comment on croatian and albanian sites who are all focused on what serbs do or say. You declined because you know you'll be slaped for any word of ignorance you write. Plus you're all afraid fear is the only thing you recognize straight on the only motivation you live for. Peggy is a lady who writes the truth and truth is theres no other media as b92 constantly reporting positive things on albanians their history culture literature, albania's prime minister etc. You're here out of the misery you live in the getos and states houses of the west, you're here because you all cry about what you lost with jugoslavia's breakup.Think twice before replying mediocre lier and remember you're loosing the only real albanians who would have ever run to save you.

Your obsession with Albanians is psychotic. I don't mean you, personally. I mean your society. Because of that we can't allow, that psychotic voice to be the only voice the outside world hears.
(J, 19 May 2017 15:15)
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Are you seriously going to tell us what we can or can't do?
You don't see that you are sick ones.
If what we say bothers you so much why are you always here reading it?
Seriously why?
We are not obsessed with you. We stay away from you and your lies.
You are the ones obsessed with us because you simply cannot stay away from us. You don't see that?
You're telling me that I should stay away from this site because it shows obsession I have with you and you seriously can't see what is wrong with that.

Your obsession with Albanians is psychotic. I don't mean you, personally. I mean your society. Because of that we can't allow, that psychotic voice to be the only voice the outside world hears.
(J, 19 May 2017 15:15)
===========
Are you seriously going to tell us what we can or can't do?
You don't see that you are sick ones.
If what we say bothers you so much why are you always here reading it?
Seriously why?
We are not obsessed with you. We stay away from you and your lies.
You are the ones obsessed with us because you simply cannot stay away from us. You don't see that?
You're telling me that I should stay away from this site because it shows obsession I have with you and you seriously can't see what is wrong with that.

Get over it.

Its the Albanian population that bamboozles me... why would they agree to a person who will not take "Kosovo" anywhere??
(Watcher, 19 May 2017 02:41)

It's not clear where do you want "Kosovo" to be taken to lol

@Peggy: "If you don't want to hear about Albania then don't come to a Serbian site. Now that's really simple. "


You obviously fail to see the glaring contradiction in your own statement. Normally one wouldn't expect to read a lot of news about Albania/Albanians/Kosova in a Serbian site, just like there's is very little, to almost no news about Serbia in Albanian sites. Albanian press mostly ignores news from Serbia.

But here, in a Serbian news site each day there are about 30-40% of news articles (and a lot of them fake news to begin with) dedicated to Albanians in Alb/Kos/Macd, etc. Why is that? What is this obsession?

The reason most of the Albanian commentators come to this site is that it is in English - apparently aiming an international audience - and because of the barrage of lies, propaganda, misinformation that this site puts day in and day out about us.

You know what's really simple? Don't write trash about Albanians and Albanians won't feel compelled to come here and refute your trash. You also have the Serbian language version, where you're free to talk whatever gibberish you want to talk to each-other. But we're not logs - we're not going to stay silent at whatever slander you want to broadcast about us. Alright? Got that? Talk about yourselves, don't talk about us. If you make it your business spreading lies about us, we're going to make it our business to refute those lies, and right in your face if it needs be. It's that simple.

It would be humiliating to be a Serb which this piece of .... and the majority of the Slav commenters on this site clearly represent.

@icj1 - lol, how about just "Forward", sweetie...for starters;) There are young, smart, educated & logical Albanians out there, they just can't get to where they can make a difference because slimeballs like Thaci, Limaj, harindaj,etc continue to run their mafia with force and crime! No one can blame the "citizens", they know what happens when you "vote" differently...it's no different than any other Balkan country, including Srbija! However, in the more developed Balkan countries, the politicians know that they MUST give crumbs back to the people otherwise the pitchforks await. In "Kosovo", the citizens can't do s**t so we all just spin our wheels with this Dialoge;)We all, as Balkan people, know that's how things work, no matter who you are!

Are you seriously going to tell us what we can or can't do?
You don't see that you are sick ones.
If what we say bothers you so much why are you always here reading it?
Seriously why?
We are not obsessed with you. We stay away from you and your lies.
You are the ones obsessed with us because you simply cannot stay away from us. You don't see that?
You're telling me that I should stay away from this site because it shows obsession I have with you and you seriously can't see what is wrong with that.
(Peggy, 22 May 2017 04:16)

I'm not telling you how to do anything. Albanian newspapers do not have non-stop articles about Serbia. You guys never stop talking about us. That is an obsession. When you stop talking about us, we'll stop coming here. It's simple.

If you don't want to hear about Albania then don't come to a Serbian site. Now that's really simple.
Why don't you give us a break and stay away from us? Maybe we are also fed up with dealing with Albanians day in day out.
I keep saying this. We don't want to hear what you have to say so we keep away from Albanian media. That's a smart thing to do.
But then, who ever said that Albanians are smart?
(Peggy, 19 May 2017 01:25)

Your obsession with Albanians is psychotic. I don't mean you, personally. I mean your society. Because of that we can't allow, that psychotic voice to be the only voice the outside world hears.

Wrong again genius, obviously I was not referring to myself but to those who know how to put together in two coherent sentences comments like "you're a blatant liar" and "Peggy is a real lady". Me? Why would I? Im not even albanian remember? Seriously what the hell do I share with those strange beings who have the guts to raise a statue to a pedophile like Bill Klinton? Why the f* Im even considering answering to a blatant liar?

I like Skenderbeu whats wrong with being a french and calling myself Skenderbeu? You're probably not aware of the fact that in France we adore Skenderbeu because he fought and died for our christian values. Skenderbeu is not a commercial brand he belongs to mankind so why not? If you call yourself Napolon Bonaparti you think french would complain? I dont think so.

I'm not telling you how to do anything. Albanian newspapers do not have non-stop articles about Serbia. You guys never stop talking about us. That is an obsession. When you stop talking about us, we'll stop coming here. It's simple.
(J, 22 May 2017 13:10)
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I see, so you're trying to silence us by being annoying.
How's that working for you?

@ Prizreni You're a lier, who taught you to lie this way? I've begged all of you to go comment on croatian and albanian sites who are all focused on what serbs do or say. You declined because you know you'll be slaped for any word of ignorance you write. Plus you're all afraid fear is the only thing you recognize straight on the only motivation you live for. Peggy is a lady who writes the truth and truth is theres no other media as b92 constantly reporting positive things on albanians their history culture literature, albania's prime minister etc. You're here out of the misery you live in the getos and states houses of the west, you're here because you all cry about what you lost with jugoslavia's breakup.Think twice before replying mediocre lier and remember you're loosing the only real albanians who would have ever run to save you.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 20 May 2017 19:51)

Stop lying dude. Koha Ditore for example is nothing like B92. Every other article here is about Albanians. That is just psychotic. It is not normal for a whole society to be obsessed with us. No healthy society obsesses this much. Open the newspapers in Albania. At most you have an article per month about Serbia. What you see in B92 and Serb portals, is just sickness. I read more about Edi Rama here than I do in Kosova Albanian papers. I read more about Thaci and Haradinaj here than I read from Tirana papers.This is just madness.

When you are in that moment reading from the king of liars, which suffer from the double or triple personality, blaming someone else for a liar.
Why I'm not surprised?

"Me? Why would I? Im not even albanian remember? Seriously what the hell do I share with those strange beings who have the guts to raise a statue to a pedophile like Bill Klinton? Why the f* Im even considering answering to a blatant liar?"


Yeah, I have no idea either why you've f* decided to respond to me, and even less of an idea what the hell it is that you are trying to say. What is your point? Seriously.

Oh, now you're volunteering someone else, some mysterious "real albanians" (and you're not even Albanian - the irony!), to come to our rescue from some unspecified and even more mysterious threat. You know what? Tell your imaginary friends to stay in bed, no one needs their help. We're just fine.

You're calling me a liar, yet you use as a moniker the name of our national hero with an Albanian spelling, and not being an Albanian yourself you clearly are deceiving. Sorry, but you just proved that you're a liar yourself.

"Think twice before replying mediocre lier and remember you're loosing the only real albanians who would have ever run to save you. "

Let me get this straight, are you supposedly that "real albanian", and the last person who'd ever save me when all hope is lost? But to save me from what?
For all the barking that you do, you can't string two coherent sentences together; I doubt you'd be able to save yourself from your t-shirt if it came to that, let alone volunteer to save anyone else.

Ok, fine, be Skenderbeu then. But what's up with all the hate? What could Albanians possibly have done to the French to draw your ire?

I like Skenderbeu whats wrong with being a french and calling myself Skenderbeu? You're probably not aware of the fact that in France we adore Skenderbeu because he fought and died for our christian values. Skenderbeu is not a commercial brand he belongs to mankind so why not? If you call yourself Napolon Bonaparti you think french would complain? I dont think so.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 22 May 2017 19:45)


Napolon Bonaparti was also Albanian.

I see, so you're trying to silence us by being annoying.
How's that working for you?
(Peggy, 23 May 2017 04:24)

You're the one bothered by our presence here. If there's anyone trying to silence anybody else that's you. You want every other article to be about Albanians yet you don't want any Albanians here. That's just bizarre to say the least; but quite symptomatic of the Serb condition.