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Racak operation was legitimate, and flawless, commander says

Retired Interior Ministry (MUP) General Goran "Guri" Radosavljevic has told the daily Vecernje Novosti that a legitimate police operation took place in Racak.

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J

pre 6 godina

I don’t know if he was privy to anything. Someone may have mentioned something. But its much like an author of a book and someone else used the same plot but tried to disguise it by reworking it in different setting. The original author reads it and immediately recognises his or her work.
The US studies Russian tactics and if one is particularly successful they would rework it and taylor it to suit the US military. However, they are not going to get the war college lecturer/professor to announce it’s originally a Russian tacit. The senior command knows wher it originated from.
Your relatives would have attended lectures on certain tactics but they would not have been told where it originated from and even if asked the response would be “we developed it”.
That’s how they works. All militaries do the same.
(sj, 17 May 2017 10:59)

When you do too much gymnastics the truth 9 time out of 10 is simpler. The dude is lying.

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sj

pre 6 godina

Ah, OK so your BS dude is privy of all of this information but those that train at NATO aren't. Also, who said corporate or private?
(J, 17 May 2017 01:38)

I don’t know if he was privy to anything. Someone may have mentioned something. But its much like an author of a book and someone else used the same plot but tried to disguise it by reworking it in different setting. The original author reads it and immediately recognises his or her work.
The US studies Russian tactics and if one is particularly successful they would rework it and taylor it to suit the US military. However, they are not going to get the war college lecturer/professor to announce it’s originally a Russian tacit. The senior command knows wher it originated from.
Your relatives would have attended lectures on certain tactics but they would not have been told where it originated from and even if asked the response would be “we developed it”.
That’s how they works. All militaries do the same.

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J

pre 6 godina

Let me make it plain for you. Corporals and privates are never privy to much information and where tactics are concerned they are only told what to do.
Tactics are designed within war collages and successful operations are studied then altered and given a new name to suit the particular military.
The Japanese and Germans conducted some horrible human experiments and the US military scientist read those results and that is how they came to know about problems with high altitude flight. Did the US acknowledge the work done by Japan or Germany?
So unless your relatives are four star generals, you have no idea what you are talking about.
(sj, 16 May 2017 10:01)

Ah, OK so your BS dude is privy of all of this information but those that train at NATO aren't. Also, who said corporate or private?

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sj

pre 6 godina

I'll make this short. The dude is BS-ing. Again, I have relatives that have studied at NATO headquarters both as members of the US armed forces and relatives that served as members of Albanian forces at NATO headquarters. The dude is simply lying. Believe what you want.
(J, 15 May 2017 17:26)

Let me make it plain for you. Corporals and privates are never privy to much information and where tactics are concerned they are only told what to do.
Tactics are designed within war collages and successful operations are studied then altered and given a new name to suit the particular military.
The Japanese and Germans conducted some horrible human experiments and the US military scientist read those results and that is how they came to know about problems with high altitude flight. Did the US acknowledge the work done by Japan or Germany?
So unless your relatives are four star generals, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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J

pre 6 godina

All militaries study tactics from other armies and if successful adapt it to their operations. Don’t kid yourself that it does not happen. US military academies study Ratko Mladic’s tactics and see how to improve them for their purposes.
You can have an entire army of relatives studying at NATO and they would not know where those tactics come from because foot soldiers are not told, but I can tell you that the senior western officer corp know. I don’t just accept someone’s word, but I have more than enough experience to know what is BS and what is not. Radosavljevic knows what he is talking about.
The EU would have been informed of those antiterrorists operation at Racak well ahead of time. It was your Thaci and William Walker that murdered the 40 people then “discovered” they were killed by Serbs and surprise, surprise that was the trigger for bombing Serbia.
Serbs did not go into Albania and claim land there, but Albanians did that in Serbia so the penalty is a slow and agonising death by economics and poverty. Don’t come crying to me, you deserve all you get.
(sj, 15 May 2017 11:38)
I'll make this short. The dude is BS-ing. Again, I have relatives that have studied at NATO headquarters both as members of the US armed forces and relatives that served as members of Albanian forces at NATO headquarters. The dude is simply lying. Believe what you want.

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sj

pre 6 godina

So, what are you saying, you declared victory and retreated. Ha,Ha,Ha!
You gave up 15% of your land and you call that a win? Why did Serbia evacuate Kosova if you were left unscathed, as you claim? Make no sense, unless of course, you're lying. You know you are. Hee, Hee!
(The Count of Kosova, 14 May 2017 00:25)

Nothing beats the depleted uranium mate. What's even sadder is that your Kosova leadership hides this fact very closely. Its a gift from the US with love that keeps on giving every day hee, hee hee.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(J, 13 May 2017 02:06)

All militaries study tactics from other armies and if successful adapt it to their operations. Don’t kid yourself that it does not happen. US military academies study Ratko Mladic’s tactics and see how to improve them for their purposes.
You can have an entire army of relatives studying at NATO and they would not know where those tactics come from because foot soldiers are not told, but I can tell you that the senior western officer corp know. I don’t just accept someone’s word, but I have more than enough experience to know what is BS and what is not. Radosavljevic knows what he is talking about.
The EU would have been informed of those antiterrorists operation at Racak well ahead of time. It was your Thaci and William Walker that murdered the 40 people then “discovered” they were killed by Serbs and surprise, surprise that was the trigger for bombing Serbia.
Serbs did not go into Albania and claim land there, but Albanians did that in Serbia so the penalty is a slow and agonising death by economics and poverty. Don’t come crying to me, you deserve all you get.

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Free

pre 6 godina

Ok keep debating man. You seem to be proud that NATO didn`t arrest Sllobo because "was terrified by Glorious Serbian Army", but managed to have Serbs to arrest him for them and send him over to Hague.

Yep, very heroic Serbian resistance. Is this studied by NATO as a fine example of heroic resistance too?

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icj1

pre 6 godina

@count of Kosovo & free- who "won" is debatable.
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Well, Kosovo considers it a win. But you are free to debate with Serbia whether you and Serbia agree if it was a win or loss. Let us know what your conclusion is lol
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NATO begged Russia to agree to the terms that were agreed upon!
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

NATO and Russia agreed upon something and then NATO begged Russia to agree?! That sounds like total nonsense, dear!
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Milosevic put K&M into the hands of the UN!
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Milosevic was told by the UNSC to put Kosovo into the hands of the UN. Milosevic begged the UN Security Council before the vote not to approve UNSCR 1244 in its current form and considered it one of the darkest pages of UNSC's history.
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NATO relented to agreeing to terms Milosevic agreed to...
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Yes, Milosevic forced NATO to agree to the withdrawal of the Serb Army and MUP from Kosovo lol
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the question lingers...who did win?
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

As far as Kosovo is concerned, it won independence from Serbia. It's up to you to figure out what Serbia won :) Let us know when you figure it out.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

After the NATO aggression on Srbija & K&M, International observers documented what the Serbian Army was pulling out of Kosovo...
(Watcher, 13 May 2017 16:53)

Yes, that's correct. NATO achieved its goal of getting the Serbian Army pull out of Kosovo. Thanks for confirming it...

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@count of Kosovo & free- who "won" is debatable. NATO begged Russia to agree to the terms that were agreed upon! One of the main reasons Kosovo is not independent is because Milosevic put K&M into the hands of the UN!
NATO relented to agreeing to terms Milosevic agreed to...I believe 3 out of the 12 NATO demands he didn't agreed to in the end!
Yes, I would agree, Srbija got pushed back 50 yrs in the NATO aggression, however, NATO did not get what they wanted either! It was time to commit ground troops and they knew what that meant;) looking back now,with the sad situation in K&M, the question lingers...who did win?

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Geronimo

pre 6 godina

Toni have you overdosed on some of Walker's "truth serum". Take a look at your tongue you'll probably see that the tip of it has started to develop a cleft commonly called a "fork" by Native American Indians who Walker's ancestors likely threw off their land too,as he has managed to do with Serbians from Kosovo! Once this is fully formed the likely hood that anything believable comes out of your mouth is an insignificant percentile as was the case with Walker in 1999.The statue erected to him in Kosovo only remains erect through self stimulation as his real surname is Wanker!!

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Free

pre 6 godina

So now in the Serbian version of the story West lost the war in 1999?

I don`t know how things works in some parallel Universe but in the Universe i live in bombing of Serbia wasn`t about "destroying Holy Glorious Serbian Army".

The point was: Serbian Army and Serbian Police OUT of Kosovo and Sllobo OUT of power!
And in the Universe i live in that was pretty much achieved. But if this means that Holy Glorious Serbian Army won the war, then finally we had a war in which everybody won! Salut!

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The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

This operation was carried out by members of the Special Police Unit (PJP), which I commanded, police officers from Urosevac, and the Army, Radosavljevic said.

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I'll bet those Serb police officers from Urosevac no longer live there or anywhere else in Kosova, provided of course, if they are still alive. Hee, Hee!

p.s. After that lie, I doubt "Guri" will be around much longer.

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The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Serbian army showed how to DEFEND it's land against aggression! When NATO threatened to "invade", the Srbs invited them to try...Why didn't they?? Everybody knows, the Srbs would have been overwhelmed, but not at a cost the "west" was ready to pay!!
(Watcher, 13 May 2017 16:53)



Watcher,
So, what are you saying, you declared victory and retreated. Ha,Ha,Ha!
You gave up 15% of your land and you call that a win? Why did Serbia evacuate Kosova if you were left unscathed, as you claim? Make no sense, unless of course, you're lying. You know you are. Hee, Hee!

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ j, icj1, Toni - Truth? You want the truth? LOL...After the NATO aggression on Srbija & K&M, International observers documented what the Serbian Army was pulling out of Kosovo...A clean-pressed military with pretty much all it's hardware INTACT!!! And what was NATO and the "world press" telling us was happening to the Serbian army during 78 days of bombing???How many bombs fell on Serbia & Kosovo??? TEXT BOOK, baby, TEXT BOOK!!! It is well documented in the west, the Serbian army showed how to DEFEND it's land against aggression! When NATO threatened to "invade", the Srbs invited them to try...Why didn't they?? Everybody knows, the Srbs would have been overwhelmed, but not at a cost the "west" was ready to pay!!

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Toni

pre 6 godina

In Recak were killed civilians and not soldiers.

Tell the truth if you want to change the relations for better between serbians and albanians.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It's all in the Finnish report that was hidden by the EU. Parts of it leaked claiming clothes were changed and bullet holes not matching up.
Check -> [link] [link]/
"[the victims] were not civilians and that all the bodies found in Racak were in disguise and that bullet holes on clothes and bodies did not match. There was also no one who was killed at short range"
(Zoran, 12 May 2017 18:06)

None of the links that you provided is a link to any "Finnish report"!

Nice try again, but as usual you just exposed yourself as a liar. Do you even check the links before you post them?!

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J

pre 6 godina

"This is supported by the fact NATO textbooks for special operations study this Serbian police operation as an example of how to react against terrorists. ..... It was announced ahead of time to the international monitoring mission, and they watched the whole operation,"

It says a lot when even NATO studied this operation on how to deal with terrorist. That's the problem with the west. You can never trust them. They would stab you in the back if it suited their purposes at the blink of an eye.

As I said before Racak goes into the mythology book alongside with Srebrenica. William Walker and his buddy Thaci killed 40 people to blame the Serbs so that the US could use that as an excuse to bomb Serbia.
(sj, 12 May 2017 13:25) #

I have relatives who have studied in NATO headquarters for years. This crap that is running out of this dude's mouth is total BS.Obviously you are gullible enough to believe it. You buy into the narrative that others are always wrong and Serbia was never wrong; so you buy into any garbage that feeds that narrative.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@avni - You're right, the depleted uranium bombs did not find him, but they did find many Albanian & Serbian civilians! For soulless people like you however, they're just "collateral damage", a price to be paid for this prison ghetto called "Kosova"...

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Naim

pre 6 godina

Then of course you were successful. With poor civilians. Come now and see.
We know how and where to hit you hard. We know we know... and we will - don't think that's all gone, not at all. The only language Serbs understand it's a hard hit. And you got it you will have it always.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Goldeneagle - You originally said "world", not Russia. But Regardless, even though Srbs probably had high hopes Russia would intervene, we understand WHY they did not...at THAT time, it wasn't a viable option for them...understandable! 18 years later, you would be a fool to think Russia is in the same state of affairs. Think Syria, the West can't do s**t without thinking how Russia will react. Yes, Trump sent 50 or so Cruise missles that did absolutely NOTHING to Syria...and that's making sure first no Russians were in the vicinity so as not to give Putin a reason to react. Sorry Goldeneagle, if you're reverting back to 99" years, you're in for a big surprise. Also, Vucic is not looking to pull triggers, it's this masked crusader ,captain Ramush that barking war, not Vucic!

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Avni

pre 6 godina

Radosavljevic stressed that the operation on January 15, 1999 was carried out "flawlessly" - and that he received "a NATO gold medal" for it.....YEP....for 78 days NATO wanted to give that medal to him but couldn't find him.

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

It's all in the Finnish report that was hidden by the EU. Parts of it leaked claiming clothes were changed and bullet holes not matching up.

Check -> http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2008&mm=10&dd=22&nav_id=54412 https://www.rt.com/news/yugoslavia-kosovo-nato-bombing-705/

"[the victims] were not civilians and that all the bodies found in Racak were in disguise and that bullet holes on clothes and bodies did not match. There was also no one who was killed at short range"

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Free

pre 6 godina

It is always very touchy to hear/read about "West manipulating Albanians against Serbia for their own interest". Thank you for caring and for your compassion. You are so sweet. We miss you sooo muuuch. We feel like orphans since we lost Serbia`s "motherly love".

Racak wasn`t the first massacre against Albanians. There have been many massacres since First Balkan War, Second Balkan War, WWI etc when Serbia committed nassacres and genocidal politics against Albanians. All these massacres are documented and denounced by Serbian soldiers and Serbian military officers who witneessed them, by Cubrilovic "Humanitarian lectures" etc etc. And the West remaind silent and did nothing.

Then Racak happened. Guri the Humanitarian said "West did nothing when we slaughtered 8,000 Bosnians. Why should they care about tens of Albanian civilians? Carry on boys, finish the job". The rest is history.

Now we have a bunch of Sllobo humanitarians pawns like President Vucic, Minister Dacic, MP Sesejl, Guri the Hero all very worried about the peace that is "threaten" by two states who don`t even have armies.

And we have some other guys who are very worried about naive Albanians being blinded by the Western lies who don`t want us to understand that Milosevic was killing us only to protect us from Western devils and their naughty naughty lies.

How lucky we are to have neighbours like you. We don`t deserve all this blessing.

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kiko

pre 6 godina

Before you all get strung up on Racak and this being a great opportunity for Serbia's intelligence and foreign service to throw doubt on what happened 17 years ago. Let us consider some questions:

* If Serbia was so innocent, then why were there several grave sites in central Serbia?
* Why did the state hide these sites?
* Why doesn't the state reveal where the other missing personnel are?

There is a difference when a "STATE" such as Serbia commits crimes as opposed to a "terrorist group" or "freedom fighters" as the later were individuals. This is the key difference between both sides (State sponsored criminal acts vs. individual crimes). Think about that for a while.

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Goldeneagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher

I am speaking about russia. Not the west. Russia did not lift a finger for you during the bombing or the great purge in 2004. Neither did they do anything when we declared independence in 2008 either. You are a puppet to them and nothing else. The west did more to us than russia ever did to you. Only thing that is important now is peace and stability. There havn't been any war in last 18 years now. Lets keep it like this way. Unless you you want to start a third world war.............

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Goldeneagle- you are absolutely correct, as a matter of fact, the west probably cared even less for Serbs back then! They only care now because of the potential Beograd is looking toward Putin! That is EXACTLY my point... we are all cannon fodder for the west...hello??
Pristine and Beograd must negotiate an agreement between themselves that works/doesn't work and move forward! We found friendship with the west works only until they change flavors of the week! Yesterday, it was Serbs, today, its Albs, tomorrow, its....?

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Reader

pre 6 godina

Aided by guilty murderers still roaming free and short-sighted politicians, Serbian media keep lobotomizing and transfiguring Serbian psyche and memory.

For the person who wrote this article: the Racak massacre was what made NATO get involved, not what started the bombing. The failure of Serbia at Rambouillet is what started the bombing.

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Of course they had time to change the clothing, you should get familiar with the case, it's in the Milosevic transcripts. This hoax was used to trigger the bombing of Serbia. That's why the Finnish report was hidden. That's why the indictment was dropped. Too much evidence showing tampering. Not even bullet holes matched.

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Free

pre 6 godina

Racak was a "lawful" and very "human" operation and Guri the Hero brags about it. Sesejl wants Djindjic`s murderer to be pardoned.

And Albanians are organ-harvesters because someone smelled "strong medicine smell" in a mountain in Albania.

Who said Milosevic is dead?

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Nikolle

pre 6 godina

"So the terrorists were in uniform with terrorist KLA insignia but later found in civilian clothing."

so, their bodies were taken, clothes changed and then they were dumped together? The KLA had time to do all of that?

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Goldeneagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher


No one cares about serbs either. Nobody did anything when you got bombed. And all serbs in Kosovo have been expelled and will never return back either. And yet the world doesnt do anything about that! Sorry

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Now this is going to hit a few raw nerves for Albanians. The trigger that started the bombing ended up being a hoax, as we always knew.

So the terrorists were in uniform with terrorist KLA insignia but later found in civilian clothing. The Finnish wrote up a report along with Belarus and Serbia. The Finnish report ended up being hidden by the EU.

Later, the NATO court in the Hague dropped the Racak indictment. It must have been all too embarrassing for them that this incident, triggering the bombing of Serbia was exposed as a Hoax and the evidence is all there.

I'm glad the truth is coming out. How funny that NATO now have this in their textbooks on how to deal with terrorists.

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sj

pre 6 godina

"This is supported by the fact NATO textbooks for special operations study this Serbian police operation as an example of how to react against terrorists. ..... It was announced ahead of time to the international monitoring mission, and they watched the whole operation,"

It says a lot when even NATO studied this operation on how to deal with terrorist. That's the problem with the west. You can never trust them. They would stab you in the back if it suited their purposes at the blink of an eye.

As I said before Racak goes into the mythology book alongside with Srebrenica. William Walker and his buddy Thaci killed 40 people to blame the Serbs so that the US could use that as an excuse to bomb Serbia.

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adrian kola

pre 6 godina

If this isn't another example that Milosevic runs Serbia from the his grave, I don't know what else is. This terrorist, supported and sponsored by Milosevic typifies why Albanians rose against this menace and fought for their freedom! If need be, we shall do it again!

PS: Talking of 'golden Medal' from NATO. Yes I guess their success was so amazing that in the end they had to pack their bags and return to their rabbit holes in Serbia! This man is a terrorist at large and should be put in trial!!

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Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 6 godina

Many people believe that William Walker should be hung drawn and quartered.I say, why go to all that bother? This American scum bag is not worthy of even that effort.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@peter the rocky- nobody is saying atrocities did not happen, they happened on both sides, even frequently... but it's a well known fact Racak was a setup! It's understandable when you realize that world players need a "event" to do what they want to do... you didn't really think they "cared" about Albanians, did you?? Seriously...You didn't, did you? OMG..you DID!! I'm so sorry you had to find out like this....

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Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

Goes to show that war criminals still roam Serbia freely!

This rat says it was a legitimate operation? The killing of unarmed civilians is legitimate? And rachak was not the only instance, we had Serbian radical terrorists supported by the Serbian government killing unarmed civilians thru out The Republic Of Kosova, many of which were woman, elderly and even children!!!
The world was witness to serbias state sponsored programs of barbarism, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deployed against Kosovar citizens!

And by the way, this general should be tried for war crimes!!!

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Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

Goes to show that war criminals still roam Serbia freely!

This rat says it was a legitimate operation? The killing of unarmed civilians is legitimate? And rachak was not the only instance, we had Serbian radical terrorists supported by the Serbian government killing unarmed civilians thru out The Republic Of Kosova, many of which were woman, elderly and even children!!!
The world was witness to serbias state sponsored programs of barbarism, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deployed against Kosovar citizens!

And by the way, this general should be tried for war crimes!!!

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Now this is going to hit a few raw nerves for Albanians. The trigger that started the bombing ended up being a hoax, as we always knew.

So the terrorists were in uniform with terrorist KLA insignia but later found in civilian clothing. The Finnish wrote up a report along with Belarus and Serbia. The Finnish report ended up being hidden by the EU.

Later, the NATO court in the Hague dropped the Racak indictment. It must have been all too embarrassing for them that this incident, triggering the bombing of Serbia was exposed as a Hoax and the evidence is all there.

I'm glad the truth is coming out. How funny that NATO now have this in their textbooks on how to deal with terrorists.

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adrian kola

pre 6 godina

If this isn't another example that Milosevic runs Serbia from the his grave, I don't know what else is. This terrorist, supported and sponsored by Milosevic typifies why Albanians rose against this menace and fought for their freedom! If need be, we shall do it again!

PS: Talking of 'golden Medal' from NATO. Yes I guess their success was so amazing that in the end they had to pack their bags and return to their rabbit holes in Serbia! This man is a terrorist at large and should be put in trial!!

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Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 6 godina

Many people believe that William Walker should be hung drawn and quartered.I say, why go to all that bother? This American scum bag is not worthy of even that effort.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@peter the rocky- nobody is saying atrocities did not happen, they happened on both sides, even frequently... but it's a well known fact Racak was a setup! It's understandable when you realize that world players need a "event" to do what they want to do... you didn't really think they "cared" about Albanians, did you?? Seriously...You didn't, did you? OMG..you DID!! I'm so sorry you had to find out like this....

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sj

pre 6 godina

"This is supported by the fact NATO textbooks for special operations study this Serbian police operation as an example of how to react against terrorists. ..... It was announced ahead of time to the international monitoring mission, and they watched the whole operation,"

It says a lot when even NATO studied this operation on how to deal with terrorist. That's the problem with the west. You can never trust them. They would stab you in the back if it suited their purposes at the blink of an eye.

As I said before Racak goes into the mythology book alongside with Srebrenica. William Walker and his buddy Thaci killed 40 people to blame the Serbs so that the US could use that as an excuse to bomb Serbia.

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Avni

pre 6 godina

Radosavljevic stressed that the operation on January 15, 1999 was carried out "flawlessly" - and that he received "a NATO gold medal" for it.....YEP....for 78 days NATO wanted to give that medal to him but couldn't find him.

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Of course they had time to change the clothing, you should get familiar with the case, it's in the Milosevic transcripts. This hoax was used to trigger the bombing of Serbia. That's why the Finnish report was hidden. That's why the indictment was dropped. Too much evidence showing tampering. Not even bullet holes matched.

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Nikolle

pre 6 godina

"So the terrorists were in uniform with terrorist KLA insignia but later found in civilian clothing."

so, their bodies were taken, clothes changed and then they were dumped together? The KLA had time to do all of that?

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Free

pre 6 godina

Racak was a "lawful" and very "human" operation and Guri the Hero brags about it. Sesejl wants Djindjic`s murderer to be pardoned.

And Albanians are organ-harvesters because someone smelled "strong medicine smell" in a mountain in Albania.

Who said Milosevic is dead?

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Goldeneagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher


No one cares about serbs either. Nobody did anything when you got bombed. And all serbs in Kosovo have been expelled and will never return back either. And yet the world doesnt do anything about that! Sorry

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Naim

pre 6 godina

Then of course you were successful. With poor civilians. Come now and see.
We know how and where to hit you hard. We know we know... and we will - don't think that's all gone, not at all. The only language Serbs understand it's a hard hit. And you got it you will have it always.

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J

pre 6 godina

"This is supported by the fact NATO textbooks for special operations study this Serbian police operation as an example of how to react against terrorists. ..... It was announced ahead of time to the international monitoring mission, and they watched the whole operation,"

It says a lot when even NATO studied this operation on how to deal with terrorist. That's the problem with the west. You can never trust them. They would stab you in the back if it suited their purposes at the blink of an eye.

As I said before Racak goes into the mythology book alongside with Srebrenica. William Walker and his buddy Thaci killed 40 people to blame the Serbs so that the US could use that as an excuse to bomb Serbia.
(sj, 12 May 2017 13:25) #

I have relatives who have studied in NATO headquarters for years. This crap that is running out of this dude's mouth is total BS.Obviously you are gullible enough to believe it. You buy into the narrative that others are always wrong and Serbia was never wrong; so you buy into any garbage that feeds that narrative.

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Goldeneagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher

I am speaking about russia. Not the west. Russia did not lift a finger for you during the bombing or the great purge in 2004. Neither did they do anything when we declared independence in 2008 either. You are a puppet to them and nothing else. The west did more to us than russia ever did to you. Only thing that is important now is peace and stability. There havn't been any war in last 18 years now. Lets keep it like this way. Unless you you want to start a third world war.............

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Toni

pre 6 godina

In Recak were killed civilians and not soldiers.

Tell the truth if you want to change the relations for better between serbians and albanians.

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Reader

pre 6 godina

Aided by guilty murderers still roaming free and short-sighted politicians, Serbian media keep lobotomizing and transfiguring Serbian psyche and memory.

For the person who wrote this article: the Racak massacre was what made NATO get involved, not what started the bombing. The failure of Serbia at Rambouillet is what started the bombing.

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kiko

pre 6 godina

Before you all get strung up on Racak and this being a great opportunity for Serbia's intelligence and foreign service to throw doubt on what happened 17 years ago. Let us consider some questions:

* If Serbia was so innocent, then why were there several grave sites in central Serbia?
* Why did the state hide these sites?
* Why doesn't the state reveal where the other missing personnel are?

There is a difference when a "STATE" such as Serbia commits crimes as opposed to a "terrorist group" or "freedom fighters" as the later were individuals. This is the key difference between both sides (State sponsored criminal acts vs. individual crimes). Think about that for a while.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It's all in the Finnish report that was hidden by the EU. Parts of it leaked claiming clothes were changed and bullet holes not matching up.
Check -> [link] [link]/
"[the victims] were not civilians and that all the bodies found in Racak were in disguise and that bullet holes on clothes and bodies did not match. There was also no one who was killed at short range"
(Zoran, 12 May 2017 18:06)

None of the links that you provided is a link to any "Finnish report"!

Nice try again, but as usual you just exposed yourself as a liar. Do you even check the links before you post them?!

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ j, icj1, Toni - Truth? You want the truth? LOL...After the NATO aggression on Srbija & K&M, International observers documented what the Serbian Army was pulling out of Kosovo...A clean-pressed military with pretty much all it's hardware INTACT!!! And what was NATO and the "world press" telling us was happening to the Serbian army during 78 days of bombing???How many bombs fell on Serbia & Kosovo??? TEXT BOOK, baby, TEXT BOOK!!! It is well documented in the west, the Serbian army showed how to DEFEND it's land against aggression! When NATO threatened to "invade", the Srbs invited them to try...Why didn't they?? Everybody knows, the Srbs would have been overwhelmed, but not at a cost the "west" was ready to pay!!

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Free

pre 6 godina

It is always very touchy to hear/read about "West manipulating Albanians against Serbia for their own interest". Thank you for caring and for your compassion. You are so sweet. We miss you sooo muuuch. We feel like orphans since we lost Serbia`s "motherly love".

Racak wasn`t the first massacre against Albanians. There have been many massacres since First Balkan War, Second Balkan War, WWI etc when Serbia committed nassacres and genocidal politics against Albanians. All these massacres are documented and denounced by Serbian soldiers and Serbian military officers who witneessed them, by Cubrilovic "Humanitarian lectures" etc etc. And the West remaind silent and did nothing.

Then Racak happened. Guri the Humanitarian said "West did nothing when we slaughtered 8,000 Bosnians. Why should they care about tens of Albanian civilians? Carry on boys, finish the job". The rest is history.

Now we have a bunch of Sllobo humanitarians pawns like President Vucic, Minister Dacic, MP Sesejl, Guri the Hero all very worried about the peace that is "threaten" by two states who don`t even have armies.

And we have some other guys who are very worried about naive Albanians being blinded by the Western lies who don`t want us to understand that Milosevic was killing us only to protect us from Western devils and their naughty naughty lies.

How lucky we are to have neighbours like you. We don`t deserve all this blessing.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Goldeneagle - You originally said "world", not Russia. But Regardless, even though Srbs probably had high hopes Russia would intervene, we understand WHY they did not...at THAT time, it wasn't a viable option for them...understandable! 18 years later, you would be a fool to think Russia is in the same state of affairs. Think Syria, the West can't do s**t without thinking how Russia will react. Yes, Trump sent 50 or so Cruise missles that did absolutely NOTHING to Syria...and that's making sure first no Russians were in the vicinity so as not to give Putin a reason to react. Sorry Goldeneagle, if you're reverting back to 99" years, you're in for a big surprise. Also, Vucic is not looking to pull triggers, it's this masked crusader ,captain Ramush that barking war, not Vucic!

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Goldeneagle- you are absolutely correct, as a matter of fact, the west probably cared even less for Serbs back then! They only care now because of the potential Beograd is looking toward Putin! That is EXACTLY my point... we are all cannon fodder for the west...hello??
Pristine and Beograd must negotiate an agreement between themselves that works/doesn't work and move forward! We found friendship with the west works only until they change flavors of the week! Yesterday, it was Serbs, today, its Albs, tomorrow, its....?

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

It's all in the Finnish report that was hidden by the EU. Parts of it leaked claiming clothes were changed and bullet holes not matching up.

Check -> http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2008&mm=10&dd=22&nav_id=54412 https://www.rt.com/news/yugoslavia-kosovo-nato-bombing-705/

"[the victims] were not civilians and that all the bodies found in Racak were in disguise and that bullet holes on clothes and bodies did not match. There was also no one who was killed at short range"

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@avni - You're right, the depleted uranium bombs did not find him, but they did find many Albanian & Serbian civilians! For soulless people like you however, they're just "collateral damage", a price to be paid for this prison ghetto called "Kosova"...

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The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

This operation was carried out by members of the Special Police Unit (PJP), which I commanded, police officers from Urosevac, and the Army, Radosavljevic said.

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I'll bet those Serb police officers from Urosevac no longer live there or anywhere else in Kosova, provided of course, if they are still alive. Hee, Hee!

p.s. After that lie, I doubt "Guri" will be around much longer.

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Free

pre 6 godina

So now in the Serbian version of the story West lost the war in 1999?

I don`t know how things works in some parallel Universe but in the Universe i live in bombing of Serbia wasn`t about "destroying Holy Glorious Serbian Army".

The point was: Serbian Army and Serbian Police OUT of Kosovo and Sllobo OUT of power!
And in the Universe i live in that was pretty much achieved. But if this means that Holy Glorious Serbian Army won the war, then finally we had a war in which everybody won! Salut!

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Geronimo

pre 6 godina

Toni have you overdosed on some of Walker's "truth serum". Take a look at your tongue you'll probably see that the tip of it has started to develop a cleft commonly called a "fork" by Native American Indians who Walker's ancestors likely threw off their land too,as he has managed to do with Serbians from Kosovo! Once this is fully formed the likely hood that anything believable comes out of your mouth is an insignificant percentile as was the case with Walker in 1999.The statue erected to him in Kosovo only remains erect through self stimulation as his real surname is Wanker!!

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The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Serbian army showed how to DEFEND it's land against aggression! When NATO threatened to "invade", the Srbs invited them to try...Why didn't they?? Everybody knows, the Srbs would have been overwhelmed, but not at a cost the "west" was ready to pay!!
(Watcher, 13 May 2017 16:53)



Watcher,
So, what are you saying, you declared victory and retreated. Ha,Ha,Ha!
You gave up 15% of your land and you call that a win? Why did Serbia evacuate Kosova if you were left unscathed, as you claim? Make no sense, unless of course, you're lying. You know you are. Hee, Hee!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

After the NATO aggression on Srbija & K&M, International observers documented what the Serbian Army was pulling out of Kosovo...
(Watcher, 13 May 2017 16:53)

Yes, that's correct. NATO achieved its goal of getting the Serbian Army pull out of Kosovo. Thanks for confirming it...

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icj1

pre 6 godina

@count of Kosovo & free- who "won" is debatable.
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Well, Kosovo considers it a win. But you are free to debate with Serbia whether you and Serbia agree if it was a win or loss. Let us know what your conclusion is lol
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NATO begged Russia to agree to the terms that were agreed upon!
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

NATO and Russia agreed upon something and then NATO begged Russia to agree?! That sounds like total nonsense, dear!
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Milosevic put K&M into the hands of the UN!
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Milosevic was told by the UNSC to put Kosovo into the hands of the UN. Milosevic begged the UN Security Council before the vote not to approve UNSCR 1244 in its current form and considered it one of the darkest pages of UNSC's history.
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NATO relented to agreeing to terms Milosevic agreed to...
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Yes, Milosevic forced NATO to agree to the withdrawal of the Serb Army and MUP from Kosovo lol
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the question lingers...who did win?
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

As far as Kosovo is concerned, it won independence from Serbia. It's up to you to figure out what Serbia won :) Let us know when you figure it out.

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Free

pre 6 godina

Ok keep debating man. You seem to be proud that NATO didn`t arrest Sllobo because "was terrified by Glorious Serbian Army", but managed to have Serbs to arrest him for them and send him over to Hague.

Yep, very heroic Serbian resistance. Is this studied by NATO as a fine example of heroic resistance too?

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@count of Kosovo & free- who "won" is debatable. NATO begged Russia to agree to the terms that were agreed upon! One of the main reasons Kosovo is not independent is because Milosevic put K&M into the hands of the UN!
NATO relented to agreeing to terms Milosevic agreed to...I believe 3 out of the 12 NATO demands he didn't agreed to in the end!
Yes, I would agree, Srbija got pushed back 50 yrs in the NATO aggression, however, NATO did not get what they wanted either! It was time to commit ground troops and they knew what that meant;) looking back now,with the sad situation in K&M, the question lingers...who did win?

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sj

pre 6 godina

So, what are you saying, you declared victory and retreated. Ha,Ha,Ha!
You gave up 15% of your land and you call that a win? Why did Serbia evacuate Kosova if you were left unscathed, as you claim? Make no sense, unless of course, you're lying. You know you are. Hee, Hee!
(The Count of Kosova, 14 May 2017 00:25)

Nothing beats the depleted uranium mate. What's even sadder is that your Kosova leadership hides this fact very closely. Its a gift from the US with love that keeps on giving every day hee, hee hee.

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J

pre 6 godina

All militaries study tactics from other armies and if successful adapt it to their operations. Don’t kid yourself that it does not happen. US military academies study Ratko Mladic’s tactics and see how to improve them for their purposes.
You can have an entire army of relatives studying at NATO and they would not know where those tactics come from because foot soldiers are not told, but I can tell you that the senior western officer corp know. I don’t just accept someone’s word, but I have more than enough experience to know what is BS and what is not. Radosavljevic knows what he is talking about.
The EU would have been informed of those antiterrorists operation at Racak well ahead of time. It was your Thaci and William Walker that murdered the 40 people then “discovered” they were killed by Serbs and surprise, surprise that was the trigger for bombing Serbia.
Serbs did not go into Albania and claim land there, but Albanians did that in Serbia so the penalty is a slow and agonising death by economics and poverty. Don’t come crying to me, you deserve all you get.
(sj, 15 May 2017 11:38)
I'll make this short. The dude is BS-ing. Again, I have relatives that have studied at NATO headquarters both as members of the US armed forces and relatives that served as members of Albanian forces at NATO headquarters. The dude is simply lying. Believe what you want.

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sj

pre 6 godina

(J, 13 May 2017 02:06)

All militaries study tactics from other armies and if successful adapt it to their operations. Don’t kid yourself that it does not happen. US military academies study Ratko Mladic’s tactics and see how to improve them for their purposes.
You can have an entire army of relatives studying at NATO and they would not know where those tactics come from because foot soldiers are not told, but I can tell you that the senior western officer corp know. I don’t just accept someone’s word, but I have more than enough experience to know what is BS and what is not. Radosavljevic knows what he is talking about.
The EU would have been informed of those antiterrorists operation at Racak well ahead of time. It was your Thaci and William Walker that murdered the 40 people then “discovered” they were killed by Serbs and surprise, surprise that was the trigger for bombing Serbia.
Serbs did not go into Albania and claim land there, but Albanians did that in Serbia so the penalty is a slow and agonising death by economics and poverty. Don’t come crying to me, you deserve all you get.

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J

pre 6 godina

I don’t know if he was privy to anything. Someone may have mentioned something. But its much like an author of a book and someone else used the same plot but tried to disguise it by reworking it in different setting. The original author reads it and immediately recognises his or her work.
The US studies Russian tactics and if one is particularly successful they would rework it and taylor it to suit the US military. However, they are not going to get the war college lecturer/professor to announce it’s originally a Russian tacit. The senior command knows wher it originated from.
Your relatives would have attended lectures on certain tactics but they would not have been told where it originated from and even if asked the response would be “we developed it”.
That’s how they works. All militaries do the same.
(sj, 17 May 2017 10:59)

When you do too much gymnastics the truth 9 time out of 10 is simpler. The dude is lying.

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sj

pre 6 godina

I'll make this short. The dude is BS-ing. Again, I have relatives that have studied at NATO headquarters both as members of the US armed forces and relatives that served as members of Albanian forces at NATO headquarters. The dude is simply lying. Believe what you want.
(J, 15 May 2017 17:26)

Let me make it plain for you. Corporals and privates are never privy to much information and where tactics are concerned they are only told what to do.
Tactics are designed within war collages and successful operations are studied then altered and given a new name to suit the particular military.
The Japanese and Germans conducted some horrible human experiments and the US military scientist read those results and that is how they came to know about problems with high altitude flight. Did the US acknowledge the work done by Japan or Germany?
So unless your relatives are four star generals, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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J

pre 6 godina

Let me make it plain for you. Corporals and privates are never privy to much information and where tactics are concerned they are only told what to do.
Tactics are designed within war collages and successful operations are studied then altered and given a new name to suit the particular military.
The Japanese and Germans conducted some horrible human experiments and the US military scientist read those results and that is how they came to know about problems with high altitude flight. Did the US acknowledge the work done by Japan or Germany?
So unless your relatives are four star generals, you have no idea what you are talking about.
(sj, 16 May 2017 10:01)

Ah, OK so your BS dude is privy of all of this information but those that train at NATO aren't. Also, who said corporate or private?

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sj

pre 6 godina

Ah, OK so your BS dude is privy of all of this information but those that train at NATO aren't. Also, who said corporate or private?
(J, 17 May 2017 01:38)

I don’t know if he was privy to anything. Someone may have mentioned something. But its much like an author of a book and someone else used the same plot but tried to disguise it by reworking it in different setting. The original author reads it and immediately recognises his or her work.
The US studies Russian tactics and if one is particularly successful they would rework it and taylor it to suit the US military. However, they are not going to get the war college lecturer/professor to announce it’s originally a Russian tacit. The senior command knows wher it originated from.
Your relatives would have attended lectures on certain tactics but they would not have been told where it originated from and even if asked the response would be “we developed it”.
That’s how they works. All militaries do the same.

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Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 6 godina

Goes to show that war criminals still roam Serbia freely!

This rat says it was a legitimate operation? The killing of unarmed civilians is legitimate? And rachak was not the only instance, we had Serbian radical terrorists supported by the Serbian government killing unarmed civilians thru out The Republic Of Kosova, many of which were woman, elderly and even children!!!
The world was witness to serbias state sponsored programs of barbarism, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deployed against Kosovar citizens!

And by the way, this general should be tried for war crimes!!!

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adrian kola

pre 6 godina

If this isn't another example that Milosevic runs Serbia from the his grave, I don't know what else is. This terrorist, supported and sponsored by Milosevic typifies why Albanians rose against this menace and fought for their freedom! If need be, we shall do it again!

PS: Talking of 'golden Medal' from NATO. Yes I guess their success was so amazing that in the end they had to pack their bags and return to their rabbit holes in Serbia! This man is a terrorist at large and should be put in trial!!

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Goldeneagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher


No one cares about serbs either. Nobody did anything when you got bombed. And all serbs in Kosovo have been expelled and will never return back either. And yet the world doesnt do anything about that! Sorry

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sj

pre 6 godina

"This is supported by the fact NATO textbooks for special operations study this Serbian police operation as an example of how to react against terrorists. ..... It was announced ahead of time to the international monitoring mission, and they watched the whole operation,"

It says a lot when even NATO studied this operation on how to deal with terrorist. That's the problem with the west. You can never trust them. They would stab you in the back if it suited their purposes at the blink of an eye.

As I said before Racak goes into the mythology book alongside with Srebrenica. William Walker and his buddy Thaci killed 40 people to blame the Serbs so that the US could use that as an excuse to bomb Serbia.

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Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 6 godina

Many people believe that William Walker should be hung drawn and quartered.I say, why go to all that bother? This American scum bag is not worthy of even that effort.

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Now this is going to hit a few raw nerves for Albanians. The trigger that started the bombing ended up being a hoax, as we always knew.

So the terrorists were in uniform with terrorist KLA insignia but later found in civilian clothing. The Finnish wrote up a report along with Belarus and Serbia. The Finnish report ended up being hidden by the EU.

Later, the NATO court in the Hague dropped the Racak indictment. It must have been all too embarrassing for them that this incident, triggering the bombing of Serbia was exposed as a Hoax and the evidence is all there.

I'm glad the truth is coming out. How funny that NATO now have this in their textbooks on how to deal with terrorists.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@peter the rocky- nobody is saying atrocities did not happen, they happened on both sides, even frequently... but it's a well known fact Racak was a setup! It's understandable when you realize that world players need a "event" to do what they want to do... you didn't really think they "cared" about Albanians, did you?? Seriously...You didn't, did you? OMG..you DID!! I'm so sorry you had to find out like this....

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Nikolle

pre 6 godina

"So the terrorists were in uniform with terrorist KLA insignia but later found in civilian clothing."

so, their bodies were taken, clothes changed and then they were dumped together? The KLA had time to do all of that?

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Free

pre 6 godina

Racak was a "lawful" and very "human" operation and Guri the Hero brags about it. Sesejl wants Djindjic`s murderer to be pardoned.

And Albanians are organ-harvesters because someone smelled "strong medicine smell" in a mountain in Albania.

Who said Milosevic is dead?

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Reader

pre 6 godina

Aided by guilty murderers still roaming free and short-sighted politicians, Serbian media keep lobotomizing and transfiguring Serbian psyche and memory.

For the person who wrote this article: the Racak massacre was what made NATO get involved, not what started the bombing. The failure of Serbia at Rambouillet is what started the bombing.

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Naim

pre 6 godina

Then of course you were successful. With poor civilians. Come now and see.
We know how and where to hit you hard. We know we know... and we will - don't think that's all gone, not at all. The only language Serbs understand it's a hard hit. And you got it you will have it always.

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kiko

pre 6 godina

Before you all get strung up on Racak and this being a great opportunity for Serbia's intelligence and foreign service to throw doubt on what happened 17 years ago. Let us consider some questions:

* If Serbia was so innocent, then why were there several grave sites in central Serbia?
* Why did the state hide these sites?
* Why doesn't the state reveal where the other missing personnel are?

There is a difference when a "STATE" such as Serbia commits crimes as opposed to a "terrorist group" or "freedom fighters" as the later were individuals. This is the key difference between both sides (State sponsored criminal acts vs. individual crimes). Think about that for a while.

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Avni

pre 6 godina

Radosavljevic stressed that the operation on January 15, 1999 was carried out "flawlessly" - and that he received "a NATO gold medal" for it.....YEP....for 78 days NATO wanted to give that medal to him but couldn't find him.

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Goldeneagle

pre 6 godina

Watcher

I am speaking about russia. Not the west. Russia did not lift a finger for you during the bombing or the great purge in 2004. Neither did they do anything when we declared independence in 2008 either. You are a puppet to them and nothing else. The west did more to us than russia ever did to you. Only thing that is important now is peace and stability. There havn't been any war in last 18 years now. Lets keep it like this way. Unless you you want to start a third world war.............

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

It's all in the Finnish report that was hidden by the EU. Parts of it leaked claiming clothes were changed and bullet holes not matching up.

Check -> http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2008&mm=10&dd=22&nav_id=54412 https://www.rt.com/news/yugoslavia-kosovo-nato-bombing-705/

"[the victims] were not civilians and that all the bodies found in Racak were in disguise and that bullet holes on clothes and bodies did not match. There was also no one who was killed at short range"

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Free

pre 6 godina

It is always very touchy to hear/read about "West manipulating Albanians against Serbia for their own interest". Thank you for caring and for your compassion. You are so sweet. We miss you sooo muuuch. We feel like orphans since we lost Serbia`s "motherly love".

Racak wasn`t the first massacre against Albanians. There have been many massacres since First Balkan War, Second Balkan War, WWI etc when Serbia committed nassacres and genocidal politics against Albanians. All these massacres are documented and denounced by Serbian soldiers and Serbian military officers who witneessed them, by Cubrilovic "Humanitarian lectures" etc etc. And the West remaind silent and did nothing.

Then Racak happened. Guri the Humanitarian said "West did nothing when we slaughtered 8,000 Bosnians. Why should they care about tens of Albanian civilians? Carry on boys, finish the job". The rest is history.

Now we have a bunch of Sllobo humanitarians pawns like President Vucic, Minister Dacic, MP Sesejl, Guri the Hero all very worried about the peace that is "threaten" by two states who don`t even have armies.

And we have some other guys who are very worried about naive Albanians being blinded by the Western lies who don`t want us to understand that Milosevic was killing us only to protect us from Western devils and their naughty naughty lies.

How lucky we are to have neighbours like you. We don`t deserve all this blessing.

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Toni

pre 6 godina

In Recak were killed civilians and not soldiers.

Tell the truth if you want to change the relations for better between serbians and albanians.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ j, icj1, Toni - Truth? You want the truth? LOL...After the NATO aggression on Srbija & K&M, International observers documented what the Serbian Army was pulling out of Kosovo...A clean-pressed military with pretty much all it's hardware INTACT!!! And what was NATO and the "world press" telling us was happening to the Serbian army during 78 days of bombing???How many bombs fell on Serbia & Kosovo??? TEXT BOOK, baby, TEXT BOOK!!! It is well documented in the west, the Serbian army showed how to DEFEND it's land against aggression! When NATO threatened to "invade", the Srbs invited them to try...Why didn't they?? Everybody knows, the Srbs would have been overwhelmed, but not at a cost the "west" was ready to pay!!

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Zoran

pre 6 godina

Of course they had time to change the clothing, you should get familiar with the case, it's in the Milosevic transcripts. This hoax was used to trigger the bombing of Serbia. That's why the Finnish report was hidden. That's why the indictment was dropped. Too much evidence showing tampering. Not even bullet holes matched.

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@avni - You're right, the depleted uranium bombs did not find him, but they did find many Albanian & Serbian civilians! For soulless people like you however, they're just "collateral damage", a price to be paid for this prison ghetto called "Kosova"...

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@ Goldeneagle - You originally said "world", not Russia. But Regardless, even though Srbs probably had high hopes Russia would intervene, we understand WHY they did not...at THAT time, it wasn't a viable option for them...understandable! 18 years later, you would be a fool to think Russia is in the same state of affairs. Think Syria, the West can't do s**t without thinking how Russia will react. Yes, Trump sent 50 or so Cruise missles that did absolutely NOTHING to Syria...and that's making sure first no Russians were in the vicinity so as not to give Putin a reason to react. Sorry Goldeneagle, if you're reverting back to 99" years, you're in for a big surprise. Also, Vucic is not looking to pull triggers, it's this masked crusader ,captain Ramush that barking war, not Vucic!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

It's all in the Finnish report that was hidden by the EU. Parts of it leaked claiming clothes were changed and bullet holes not matching up.
Check -> [link] [link]/
"[the victims] were not civilians and that all the bodies found in Racak were in disguise and that bullet holes on clothes and bodies did not match. There was also no one who was killed at short range"
(Zoran, 12 May 2017 18:06)

None of the links that you provided is a link to any "Finnish report"!

Nice try again, but as usual you just exposed yourself as a liar. Do you even check the links before you post them?!

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@Goldeneagle- you are absolutely correct, as a matter of fact, the west probably cared even less for Serbs back then! They only care now because of the potential Beograd is looking toward Putin! That is EXACTLY my point... we are all cannon fodder for the west...hello??
Pristine and Beograd must negotiate an agreement between themselves that works/doesn't work and move forward! We found friendship with the west works only until they change flavors of the week! Yesterday, it was Serbs, today, its Albs, tomorrow, its....?

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Watcher

pre 6 godina

@count of Kosovo & free- who "won" is debatable. NATO begged Russia to agree to the terms that were agreed upon! One of the main reasons Kosovo is not independent is because Milosevic put K&M into the hands of the UN!
NATO relented to agreeing to terms Milosevic agreed to...I believe 3 out of the 12 NATO demands he didn't agreed to in the end!
Yes, I would agree, Srbija got pushed back 50 yrs in the NATO aggression, however, NATO did not get what they wanted either! It was time to commit ground troops and they knew what that meant;) looking back now,with the sad situation in K&M, the question lingers...who did win?

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J

pre 6 godina

"This is supported by the fact NATO textbooks for special operations study this Serbian police operation as an example of how to react against terrorists. ..... It was announced ahead of time to the international monitoring mission, and they watched the whole operation,"

It says a lot when even NATO studied this operation on how to deal with terrorist. That's the problem with the west. You can never trust them. They would stab you in the back if it suited their purposes at the blink of an eye.

As I said before Racak goes into the mythology book alongside with Srebrenica. William Walker and his buddy Thaci killed 40 people to blame the Serbs so that the US could use that as an excuse to bomb Serbia.
(sj, 12 May 2017 13:25) #

I have relatives who have studied in NATO headquarters for years. This crap that is running out of this dude's mouth is total BS.Obviously you are gullible enough to believe it. You buy into the narrative that others are always wrong and Serbia was never wrong; so you buy into any garbage that feeds that narrative.

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The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

Serbian army showed how to DEFEND it's land against aggression! When NATO threatened to "invade", the Srbs invited them to try...Why didn't they?? Everybody knows, the Srbs would have been overwhelmed, but not at a cost the "west" was ready to pay!!
(Watcher, 13 May 2017 16:53)



Watcher,
So, what are you saying, you declared victory and retreated. Ha,Ha,Ha!
You gave up 15% of your land and you call that a win? Why did Serbia evacuate Kosova if you were left unscathed, as you claim? Make no sense, unless of course, you're lying. You know you are. Hee, Hee!

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The Count of Kosova

pre 6 godina

This operation was carried out by members of the Special Police Unit (PJP), which I commanded, police officers from Urosevac, and the Army, Radosavljevic said.

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I'll bet those Serb police officers from Urosevac no longer live there or anywhere else in Kosova, provided of course, if they are still alive. Hee, Hee!

p.s. After that lie, I doubt "Guri" will be around much longer.

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Geronimo

pre 6 godina

Toni have you overdosed on some of Walker's "truth serum". Take a look at your tongue you'll probably see that the tip of it has started to develop a cleft commonly called a "fork" by Native American Indians who Walker's ancestors likely threw off their land too,as he has managed to do with Serbians from Kosovo! Once this is fully formed the likely hood that anything believable comes out of your mouth is an insignificant percentile as was the case with Walker in 1999.The statue erected to him in Kosovo only remains erect through self stimulation as his real surname is Wanker!!

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Free

pre 6 godina

So now in the Serbian version of the story West lost the war in 1999?

I don`t know how things works in some parallel Universe but in the Universe i live in bombing of Serbia wasn`t about "destroying Holy Glorious Serbian Army".

The point was: Serbian Army and Serbian Police OUT of Kosovo and Sllobo OUT of power!
And in the Universe i live in that was pretty much achieved. But if this means that Holy Glorious Serbian Army won the war, then finally we had a war in which everybody won! Salut!

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icj1

pre 6 godina

@count of Kosovo & free- who "won" is debatable.
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Well, Kosovo considers it a win. But you are free to debate with Serbia whether you and Serbia agree if it was a win or loss. Let us know what your conclusion is lol
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NATO begged Russia to agree to the terms that were agreed upon!
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

NATO and Russia agreed upon something and then NATO begged Russia to agree?! That sounds like total nonsense, dear!
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Milosevic put K&M into the hands of the UN!
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Milosevic was told by the UNSC to put Kosovo into the hands of the UN. Milosevic begged the UN Security Council before the vote not to approve UNSCR 1244 in its current form and considered it one of the darkest pages of UNSC's history.
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NATO relented to agreeing to terms Milosevic agreed to...
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

Yes, Milosevic forced NATO to agree to the withdrawal of the Serb Army and MUP from Kosovo lol
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the question lingers...who did win?
(Watcher, 14 May 2017 18:29)

As far as Kosovo is concerned, it won independence from Serbia. It's up to you to figure out what Serbia won :) Let us know when you figure it out.

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icj1

pre 6 godina

After the NATO aggression on Srbija & K&M, International observers documented what the Serbian Army was pulling out of Kosovo...
(Watcher, 13 May 2017 16:53)

Yes, that's correct. NATO achieved its goal of getting the Serbian Army pull out of Kosovo. Thanks for confirming it...

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Free

pre 6 godina

Ok keep debating man. You seem to be proud that NATO didn`t arrest Sllobo because "was terrified by Glorious Serbian Army", but managed to have Serbs to arrest him for them and send him over to Hague.

Yep, very heroic Serbian resistance. Is this studied by NATO as a fine example of heroic resistance too?

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sj

pre 6 godina

(J, 13 May 2017 02:06)

All militaries study tactics from other armies and if successful adapt it to their operations. Don’t kid yourself that it does not happen. US military academies study Ratko Mladic’s tactics and see how to improve them for their purposes.
You can have an entire army of relatives studying at NATO and they would not know where those tactics come from because foot soldiers are not told, but I can tell you that the senior western officer corp know. I don’t just accept someone’s word, but I have more than enough experience to know what is BS and what is not. Radosavljevic knows what he is talking about.
The EU would have been informed of those antiterrorists operation at Racak well ahead of time. It was your Thaci and William Walker that murdered the 40 people then “discovered” they were killed by Serbs and surprise, surprise that was the trigger for bombing Serbia.
Serbs did not go into Albania and claim land there, but Albanians did that in Serbia so the penalty is a slow and agonising death by economics and poverty. Don’t come crying to me, you deserve all you get.

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sj

pre 6 godina

So, what are you saying, you declared victory and retreated. Ha,Ha,Ha!
You gave up 15% of your land and you call that a win? Why did Serbia evacuate Kosova if you were left unscathed, as you claim? Make no sense, unless of course, you're lying. You know you are. Hee, Hee!
(The Count of Kosova, 14 May 2017 00:25)

Nothing beats the depleted uranium mate. What's even sadder is that your Kosova leadership hides this fact very closely. Its a gift from the US with love that keeps on giving every day hee, hee hee.

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J

pre 6 godina

All militaries study tactics from other armies and if successful adapt it to their operations. Don’t kid yourself that it does not happen. US military academies study Ratko Mladic’s tactics and see how to improve them for their purposes.
You can have an entire army of relatives studying at NATO and they would not know where those tactics come from because foot soldiers are not told, but I can tell you that the senior western officer corp know. I don’t just accept someone’s word, but I have more than enough experience to know what is BS and what is not. Radosavljevic knows what he is talking about.
The EU would have been informed of those antiterrorists operation at Racak well ahead of time. It was your Thaci and William Walker that murdered the 40 people then “discovered” they were killed by Serbs and surprise, surprise that was the trigger for bombing Serbia.
Serbs did not go into Albania and claim land there, but Albanians did that in Serbia so the penalty is a slow and agonising death by economics and poverty. Don’t come crying to me, you deserve all you get.
(sj, 15 May 2017 11:38)
I'll make this short. The dude is BS-ing. Again, I have relatives that have studied at NATO headquarters both as members of the US armed forces and relatives that served as members of Albanian forces at NATO headquarters. The dude is simply lying. Believe what you want.

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sj

pre 6 godina

I'll make this short. The dude is BS-ing. Again, I have relatives that have studied at NATO headquarters both as members of the US armed forces and relatives that served as members of Albanian forces at NATO headquarters. The dude is simply lying. Believe what you want.
(J, 15 May 2017 17:26)

Let me make it plain for you. Corporals and privates are never privy to much information and where tactics are concerned they are only told what to do.
Tactics are designed within war collages and successful operations are studied then altered and given a new name to suit the particular military.
The Japanese and Germans conducted some horrible human experiments and the US military scientist read those results and that is how they came to know about problems with high altitude flight. Did the US acknowledge the work done by Japan or Germany?
So unless your relatives are four star generals, you have no idea what you are talking about.

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J

pre 6 godina

Let me make it plain for you. Corporals and privates are never privy to much information and where tactics are concerned they are only told what to do.
Tactics are designed within war collages and successful operations are studied then altered and given a new name to suit the particular military.
The Japanese and Germans conducted some horrible human experiments and the US military scientist read those results and that is how they came to know about problems with high altitude flight. Did the US acknowledge the work done by Japan or Germany?
So unless your relatives are four star generals, you have no idea what you are talking about.
(sj, 16 May 2017 10:01)

Ah, OK so your BS dude is privy of all of this information but those that train at NATO aren't. Also, who said corporate or private?

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sj

pre 6 godina

Ah, OK so your BS dude is privy of all of this information but those that train at NATO aren't. Also, who said corporate or private?
(J, 17 May 2017 01:38)

I don’t know if he was privy to anything. Someone may have mentioned something. But its much like an author of a book and someone else used the same plot but tried to disguise it by reworking it in different setting. The original author reads it and immediately recognises his or her work.
The US studies Russian tactics and if one is particularly successful they would rework it and taylor it to suit the US military. However, they are not going to get the war college lecturer/professor to announce it’s originally a Russian tacit. The senior command knows wher it originated from.
Your relatives would have attended lectures on certain tactics but they would not have been told where it originated from and even if asked the response would be “we developed it”.
That’s how they works. All militaries do the same.

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J

pre 6 godina

I don’t know if he was privy to anything. Someone may have mentioned something. But its much like an author of a book and someone else used the same plot but tried to disguise it by reworking it in different setting. The original author reads it and immediately recognises his or her work.
The US studies Russian tactics and if one is particularly successful they would rework it and taylor it to suit the US military. However, they are not going to get the war college lecturer/professor to announce it’s originally a Russian tacit. The senior command knows wher it originated from.
Your relatives would have attended lectures on certain tactics but they would not have been told where it originated from and even if asked the response would be “we developed it”.
That’s how they works. All militaries do the same.
(sj, 17 May 2017 10:59)

When you do too much gymnastics the truth 9 time out of 10 is simpler. The dude is lying.

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