Serbia delivers non-paper to EU regarding "Greater Albania"

I read all theses comments and see that not one of these Albanians have a clue what is going on. Serbia is not afraid. Its all about diplomatic positioning. Its a game.

On the issue of how Greek and Serbs treated Albanians like dogs for 100 years. When you grovel on all fours and growl your then treated like a dog, but when you stand up on two legs and behave in a civilized manner then you will be treated as an human being. After a collective 7 months travelling in Europe in 2015 and 2016 I can truly say that no one likes Albanians. Even the Brits dont like them since all they see is Albanian criminals filling their prisons..

Albania is the cesspool of Europe.

A strong and united Albania with membership in the EU and NATO....Serbia fears the most!

Slav exploitation of indigenous natural resources as in TREPCA Mines is a thing of the past...

Serbs need must learn to earn a living but not at our expense!

The natives Rights are being realized and slav days of institutionalized discrimination are no more.

Unitity is feared by the bully Serb and rightly so.

When we are united and appropriately armed Slavs can't continue with wanton violence and crimes against us.....

We will reclaim our historic ancestral homelands to where it may lead us.

Nish is ours and so is ....
Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Hungarian-Vojvodina and Bosnian-Sanxhjak is next for un-occupation and Liberation...

Bulgarian areas are next...

Serbia will shrink until it is no more....

Only then the greatest threat to peace and stability will be eliminated!
(Azir, 5 May 2017 11:32) # Comment link

Why stop there Azir ,
Take Greater Albania all the way to Tokyo , Stockholm and Sydney .
Hitler too had that dream Azir.
Albanians aren't German's 😀))

Strange that I only hear about Greater Albania plans only in Serbian news and from Serbian politicians. I follow Albanian politics closely and not once is this even a topic of discussion. Use the internet Serbs. No excuse to be fooled by thugs.

Quite a few Albanian commentards prefer putting all their energy in to flaming, trolling, insulting and lying on B92 than going up against their own corrupt leaders and officials because they know they are untouchable and the consequences of standing up to them would be fatal. So much for european values. They can't even make things better with what they already have. Greater Albania will only be more of the same. Just like the Borg.

when Albanians wants to be equal with others in Balkan than Serbians Greeks and others consider this as threat for their interests!
100 years Albanians considered by Serbs and Greeks as dogs!
100 years ago Albanians in this territory which we call now Macedonia they were majority now they hardly can reach 30 or 35 %. What happened with Albanians in Macedonia during last 100 years?
I pray God that Politic which made Albanians street dogs for 100 years will never come to the power again!

Fake news and moderated comments if this is the Slavic Standard* we could all use a little democracy right now.

God Bless America, God Bless a Free World.

Don't you think Serbia is wasting to much energy with Kosovo. Or is wasting to much energy using Kosovo to lie its own people on trying to cover the real Serbia problems :

There was limited progress in human rights protection in Serbia in 2016. War crimes prosecutions are slow and lack political support. The Roma minority continue to face attacks and harassment. The situation for journalists remains precarious, including attacks, threats, and lawsuits for reporting on sensitive issues.Serbia struggled in the face of increasing numbers of migrants and asylum seekers, with poor reception conditions, police abuse, and an inadequate asylum system.
Journalists operated in a hostile environment that included attacks, threats, and lawsuits for reporting ..this is Serbia's report for 2016..
Please media stop your propaganda. It is for serbia's best.. there are real problems in serbia. The people are poor. Stop the kosovo bullshit. Kosovo is indipendent like montenegro and the other ex yugoslavia countries

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/d/a/Europe-and-Eurasia

Why is Serbia and Bosnia at the top of this list and Kosovo virtually at the bottom. Also pull up Kosovo and see funding from USA is virtually zero in 2017. I believe in theory USA believes the best form of stability has to be Serbia so they fund them OR they believe Serbia will be the most volatile so fund them to keep them under control. One way or another nothing will happen in this region unless USA says so. Time we all acknowledge that. Kosovo is American and forever will be. The rest is a show piece of democracy. My only wish was a united Balkans, but a region where nationalism is a currency. They will keep putting us against each other like chess pieces. My grandmother and her neighbour of 71 f@#king years. A Serb and a Albanian loved each other like sisters, never let anyone tell them they couldnt be friends, but nowadays we are left with nothing but a Symbol. Hate is now taught. Same DNA gene pool code would be Serbs and Albanians but none of that means nothing. Now we pit a black eagle against a white eagle and wait for our American masters to decide when our next war is. Unemployment high all over the place, corrupt leaders on both sides yet everyone is so proud. The Americans laugh at both of us behind closed doors. The biggest fear from the West was unity in the Balkans. Why do you think they constantly want to destabilize, but we have given them their wish due to our ignorance...

Quite a few Albanian commentards prefer putting all their energy in to flaming, trolling, insulting and lying on B92 than going up against their own corrupt leaders and officials because they know they are untouchable and the consequences of standing up to them would be fatal. So much for european values. They can't even make things better with what they already have. Greater Albania will only be more of the same. Just like the Borg.
(PickHard, 5 May 2017 12:57) #

I recommend you buy a mirror.

I CONFESS!

I confess Albanians are conspiring to living in peace ,prosperity and harmony.

I admit Albanians also want unity not because we want to make Greater Albania since Albania is already a Great country...

We confess to wanting Democracy....
Freedom from Occupation...
Freedom from corruption....

Normal life means non-Slav dominated ,institutionalized discriminated or manipulated....

Fairness,equality and opportunity is not to much to ask for in " Macedonia"?

We inevitably will all be united in NATO and the EU as A Natural Albania 🇦🇱 🇺🇸🇽🇰🇪🇺❤
Because anything else would be artificial...

Hahahahah what is it serbs?
You are getting afraid?

Did serb ministers reported to eu ambassadors the threat with the train, or the threat that nikolici will go to war with his 2 sons?6

A strong and united Albania with membership in the EU and NATO....Serbia fears the most!

Slav exploitation of indigenous natural resources as in TREPCA Mines is a thing of the past...

Serbs need must learn to earn a living but not at our expense!

The natives Rights are being realized and slav days of institutionalized discrimination are no more.

Unitity is feared by the bully Serb and rightly so.

When we are united and appropriately armed Slavs can't continue with wanton violence and crimes against us.....

We will reclaim our historic ancestral homelands to where it may lead us.

Nish is ours and so is ....
Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Hungarian-Vojvodina and Bosnian-Sanxhjak is next for un-occupation and Liberation...

Bulgarian areas are next...

Serbia will shrink until it is no more....

Only then the greatest threat to peace and stability will be eliminated!

To all Albanians.,. Your vision of "freedom" and "democracy" is horrific and pathetic...Just look at Kosovo...The most intolerant and the poorest region in Europe that is ruled by thugs and narco dealers...For all non Albanians in Kosovo,life is more than miserable...God please save us of Albanian "democracy"...

We Serbs are simply doing our due diligence. When things hit the fan, we will have regional cooperation. You Albanians are not a majority in the Balkans. It will not end well for you, especially if you believe what the U.S. tells you. Remember, nobody gives a crap about the Balkans. All of those around us are using us as pawns.

I think this mark the END of the peacful Albanians and serb relations. This is an hostile act done by the serbian governments. We will see a lot of troubles in the future.

Bad move from the serb side. I guess you are asking for trouble and eventually you'll get that.

The Serbian obsession with Albanians is a little creepy.

Again is that her natural hair colour? I don't know what it is with Serbian women, I'm not sure they quite understand what growing old gracefully means.

Strange that I only hear about Greater Albania plans only in Serbian news and from Serbian politicians.
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Because even albanian politicians aren't stupid enough to call it Greater Albania. They prefer 'Natural Albania' or the 'Tirana Platform' (it's a PR sleight of hand) - or DIDN'T the leaders of regional parties all troop off to Triana and have a nice dinner with Edi Rama and forge a common political outlook? Just swapping family stories was it, making pizzas or FAKE NEWS!? Pull da udder one.

NO, because Afghanistan is a poor backward country of the world. If Afghanistan were larger, than the problems in the world would be larger. Same as Albania, by trying to make a country with problems bigger, essentially your making the problem bigger, not smaller and contained...
Secondly.
A greater Albania is a mistake, in fact, a smaller Albania is what is need for regional stability, and scientific progress.
(Nikola Novakovic, 6 May 2017 01:13)

And this is exactly the reason why Vojvodina will leave Serbia and Serbia will be only Beograd and surroundings. No one wants a genocidal backward nation to get bigger. While you are waiting for albania to get smaller we already can see serbia vanishing to nothing. We might get smaller, who knows but by that time, serbia will already be gone. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

Albanians are shaking in their boots. Has anyone ever told you Serbs no one likes you, I mean atleast with us Albanians we know it and could not care less. We understand our role and play it well you still think Serbia is the late great Yugoslavia and not some backwards insignificant Balkan nation. Greater Albania doesn't exist because Albanians are spread out all over the Balkans and we have assimilated in to our surrogate countries with no problem, only when you took Kosovos autonomy did Albanians rebel. Imagine if Milosevic hadn't been a hard nut racist and left the Albanians alone, Kosovo would still be yours right now. However thank god he was and Albanians gained their freedom from the clutches of racist Serbs. Peace and love though, on a side note don't let your corrupt politicians distract you from the real issues at home with a made up non existent Albanian threat.

Darko we Albanians and the International Community support realistic and open minded Serbs that acknowledge reality and that Kosova that was illegally occupied and used and abused by Serbs can NEVER RETURN TO THAT ABUSE!

Darko thank you for supporting our freedom and independence.

If only Serbs had more honest and honorable people in power instead of Milosevic's students of occupation.

I have hope Serbia will come to their assumed senses before they shrink so much that they no longer exist.....

Legally, serbian officials have no base to complain about the topic they have pointed to EU ambassadors. From my experience, EU will never take seriously such hysteria stressed by serbians without any based ground for what they are claiming. This is like barking in without any threat.

"To the the arguments of Joksimovic and Djuric about the aggressive behavior of Albanians and the need for greater involvement of Brussels, EU diplomats responded by saying that all sides should work to calm the situation, while the aim was peace and stability in the region."

That's like the EU diplomats politely telling to Jadranka and Marko that they had no idea what Jadranka and Marko were talking about and that they should chill down lol

A greater Albania would pose to many problems for the region and world.
Firstly, could anyone imagine making a greater Afghanistan. NO, because Afghanistan is a poor backward country of the world. If Afghanistan were larger, than the problems in the world would be larger. Same as Albania, by trying to make a country with problems bigger, essentially your making the problem bigger, not smaller and contained...
Secondly, A greater Albania would allow for Islamist influences as many Muslim Albanians seek to establish sharia law throughout Albainian controlled areas. This Islamic influence in a greater Albania could possibly pose a serious threat to the safety of EU citizens, especially as tensions in the Middle East continue to rise...
A greater Albania is a mistake, in fact, a smaller Albania is what is need for regional stability, and scientific progress.

I have hope Serbia will come to their assumed senses before they shrink so much that they no longer exist.....
(Azir, 5 May 2017 11:40)

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Dude, it's not Serbia that is denying the residents of KiM visa-free access to the EU. Please focus on your senses before casting stones.

I CONFESS!

I confess Albanians are conspiring to living in peace ,prosperity and harmony.

I admit Albanians also want unity not because we want to make Greater Albania since Albania is already a Great country...

We confess to wanting Democracy....
Freedom from Occupation...
Freedom from corruption....

Normal life means non-Slav dominated ,institutionalized discriminated or manipulated....

Fairness,equality and opportunity is not to much to ask for in " Macedonia"?

We inevitably will all be united in NATO and the EU as A Natural Albania 🇦🇱 🇺🇸🇽🇰🇪🇺❤
Because anything else would be artificial...
(Azir, 5 May 2017 23:26)


Azir,
Well said. Bravo vella.

Albanians aren't Serbias problem. Poverty, corruption, high youth unemployment, organised crime, rigged voting systems, low fertility rates, low economic development and so on. Those are the real issues that your politicians refuse to tackle, but would rather focus on the Serbian bogeyman Albania.

Yugoslavian_Loyal : Kosovo is American and forever will be.

DON'T PANIC RUSSIA WILL HELP YOU. WE ALREADY CONTROL THE MEDITERRANIEN AIR AND SEA. EVERYBODY TALKS ONLY OF THE S-300 AND S-400 BUT THEY FORGET OF THE BASTION SYSTEMS DEPLOYED IN HMEIMIM AND TAURUS. TONIGHT WE WILL FORBID ANY FLIGHTS IN THE SYRIAN AIR FOE THE US COALITION OF 62 STATES. SO RUSSIA IS MUCH CLOSER THAN YOU THINK. SEE YOU !


from Albania : I guess you are asking for trouble and eventually you'll get that.

THIS TIME YOU WILL FACE MORE OF THE RUSSIANS THAN OF THE SERBS.

Pyrrhic 1999 : You are getting afraid?

WE HAVE NO SUCH WORDS IN OUR VOCABULARY.

There is no "greater Albania", there is only albania and her NATO run colony of Kosovo, which is occupied at the moment. However I don't see the big deal of a Kosovo army, another war in the Balkans would benefit both Macedonia and Serbia because if hostilities did break out, you would see the Albanian populations from Macedonia and Kosovo flee to western Europe. They love that welfare and as war refugees they would be welcomed into the EU with open arms. It's only a matter of time..

Here's another thing that Albanians aren't responsible for

Despite Pressure, Kosovo Hesitates to Set Border Vote
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/kosovo-under-international-pressure-on-demarcation-agreement-05-04-2017

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No EU visa liberalization without a ratified border agreement, but greater albania supporters don't recognize currente borders. What does this mean? It's all Sri Lanka's fault!

Azir it starts with a shift of listening to the other side and understanding only then you will get we are all one and together all of us
and more importantly than anything you see with open eyes you are not discriminated but you expectations and not getting them makes you feel you are
then the narrative is built around that

Macedonians first have genuine fear of Albanian succession
accountability and reasonability it is now time
nobody likes seeing a victim mentality that makes you the hostage

Niko,
You missed the most obvious example:

The West has 35 years that's throwing money to Greece. Now that they are cutting it short and demanding change it is the politicians that are reacting, not the people. The people who were starving are still not seeing the money.

No Albanian in Macedonia is advocating any notion of Greater Albania, all this talk of Greater Albainia is coming from Kosovo (and there diaspora, who left due to political & economic mismanagement of Kosovo, yet feel a need to troll Serbian websites in a vain attempt to feel relevant).
Lets look at the numbers:
GDP of Albania (2016) was (US)$3,945.2
GDP of Kosovo (2016) was (US)$3,552.4
GDP of Macedonia (2016) was (US)$4,852.7
Source: Worldbank.org (http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD)
So why would Albanians in Macedonia (who make nearly 40% more then there fellow kinsmen in Kosovo) want to separate from Macedonia and then join a poorer country and be financially worst off?
Also look at the population trends, Albainia in 1990 was 3.5M, in 2016 they are only 2.8M (a 20% drop) so even Albanians in Albania, don’t want to live in Albania, so how would a (so called) Greater Albania benefit the Albanians in Macedonia?

Guys... I think we need to be a bit realistic here... Yes, Kosovo is more than 90% ethnically Albanian, however it is the historic land of Serbia and the reason there aren't many Serbs left is because the Albanians kicked them out during the Kosovo war... Also, in order for Kosovo to gain UN membership, it's membership must be accepted by ALL 5 UN leadeing countries which are the USA, UK, France, Russia, and China so it will never be a fully independent country because both Russia and China have said they will refuse to accept Kosovo to join the UN... The only hope Kosovo has is if that law is changed and replaced with a law that says if the majority of the 5 UN leading states (which is at least 3, and in that case they are good because they have the USA, UK and France) accept its membership, then it can be in the UN...

rote, 5 May 2017 18:52)

Nobody scared of you, i mean NOBODY.
You've been tested plenty of times , and you did NOTHING. Common hot air, time date anything?
All you do is talk, I guess an empty can makes more noise than the full one

@Yugoslav_Loyal,
You are completely wrong on the assertion of you logic sir, if you think that throwing money to be misused by politicians is the solution to the problem. In fact history can teach that the more the governments are pressed to cleanse themselves.
Example are post war Germany , France, England and Italy and the Marshall plan. Germany got the least amount of money from the plan, yet they were the first to rebuild and prosper.
Another example was of Spain in the 1500-1600 where they were flooded with gold and silver from the Americas, yet all of it ended up in Great Britain and Netherlands.
Bosnian politicians are the only one who benefit from all these "free" money and they have no incentives of changing the status quo. Why Dodik or Izetbegovic would care to change? They still get paid!
The West has 25 years that's throwing money to Albania. Now that they are cutting it short and demanding change it is the politicians that are reacting, not the people. The people who were starving are still not seeing the money.

Quite a few Albanian commentards prefer putting all their energy in to flaming, trolling, insulting and lying on B92 than going up against their own corrupt leaders and officials because they know they are untouchable and the consequences of standing up to them would be fatal. So much for european values. They can't even make things better with what they already have. Greater Albania will only be more of the same. Just like the Borg.
(PickHard, 5 May 2017 12:57)

False assumptions, false pretenses.
Get a life.

Respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty of internationally recognised states? Bad news for Dodik then.

And this is exactly the reason why Vojvodina will leave Serbia and Serbia will be only Beograd and surroundings. No one wants a genocidal backward nation to get bigger. While you are waiting for albania to get smaller we already can see serbia vanishing to nothing. We might get smaller, who knows but by that time, serbia will already be gone. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.
(Gjon Marku, 6 May 2017 18:30)

Considering that Serbs comprise about 85% of Vojvodina, when are they going to depart Serbia again? or perhaps like Nis, Novi Sad is also Albanian?
You play too much with doodle.

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!

"From Albania" is a UDB troll. Not Albanian, doesn't keep to Albanian themes, doesn't even "stir s*** up" like a Shqipëtar.

The Serbian obsession with Albanians is a little creepy.
(Comment, 6 May 2017 16:30)
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Our obsession with you? Really?
It's the other way around. You Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
Do you see us doing the same? No. Why not? Because we couldn't care less about you or what you think. That's how insignificant you are to us.

(The Economist, 7 May 2017 14:21)

You make a very good point.
This is not a question of a greater Albania for Albanians but it’s a matter for the US which wishes to stir up trouble so they can then try and move in western alliance monitors or even peacekeepers to ensure that Macedonia democratically joins NATO and does not stray from the right path according to Washington.
Last time the Langley clods tried that was in 2015 when they sent in that group from Kosovo which ended in a police shootout.

This is not a question of a greater Albania for Albanians but it’s a matter for the US which wishes to stir up trouble so they can then try and move in western alliance monitors or even peacekeepers to ensure that Macedonia democratically joins NATO
(sj, 8 May 2017 11:20)

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, what you wrote is total nonsense. That's because, always according to the CE of B92 forums sj, a country needs financing in order to join NATO. But, according to the CE of B92 forums sj again, the US has collapsed and run out of cash, so the US can't provide that financing!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Again is that her natural hair colour? I don't know what it is with Serbian women, I'm not sure they quite understand what growing old gracefully means.
(Fake blond, 5 May 2017 14:28)

Sexist pig.

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)
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You don't even know where you are, do you?

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, what you wrote is total nonsense. That's because, always according to the CE of B92 forums sj, a country needs financing in order to join NATO. But, according to the CE of B92 forums sj again, the US has collapsed and run out of cash, so the US can't provide that financing!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:53)

Only when using an Albanian abicus do the finances of the US shine. I’m still waiting of the Albanian text book on raising and harvesting money trees LOL.
You desperately need to improve your lines, they really are tired, repetitive and ludicrous. But I did not take into account that you might be mentally challenged and that’s all you can say, so keep on CE, sj…….LOL.

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)

Try B92 for starters. You really are not very bright; are you? Asking such a ridiculous question.

I like the way guric it's to him behind her like a butler , waiting for his turn to talk 🤣

I think this mark the END of the peacful Albanians and serb relations. This is an hostile act done by the serbian governments. We will see a lot of troubles in the future.

Bad move from the serb side. I guess you are asking for trouble and eventually you'll get that.
(from Albania, 5 May 2017 14:06)
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So throwing stones at Serbs who arrive by bus to visit their churches is peaceful? Destroying our churches and monasteries and cemeteries is peaceful? Intimidating anyone who wants to return to Kosovo Peaceful?
Since when did you show us any peace? If you consider all this peaceful what is your version of hostile then?
Oh yes, we saw that. Harvesting our organs falls into that category.
You've never shown us any peace but will use anything to justify your hostility towards us.

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)

You don't even know where you are, do you?
(Peggy, 9 May 2017 03:40)

I'm on an English news site which is not owned by you...

How about you? Do you even know where you are? lol

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)

Try B92 for starters
(sj, 9 May 2017 09:20)

B92 is a company, not a site... But since the CE of B92 forums sj does not have time to deal with this stuff, I'm more than happy to assist. There are a couple of sites that start with B92... a Serbian one www.b92.net/info and an English one www.b92.net/eng Perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj can tell our dear friend Peggy which of the two she must be referring to :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

B92 is a company, not a site... But since the CE of B92 forums sj does not have time to deal with this stuff, I'm more than happy to assist. There are a couple of sites that start with B92... a Serbian one [link] and an English one [link] Perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj can tell our dear friend Peggy which of the two she must be referring to :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 9 May 2017 14:26)
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What an idiotic statemen LOL. Psst both the English and Serbian sites belong to B92. You know they are all owned and maintained by the company called B92.
Yep, after posting such a ridiculous comment there is no doubt at all that you will win the dumb dumb award of 2017.

PS Your Albanians also post on the Serbian version.

Economist…

Just adding some more facts…
Albania had in 1990 $218 gdp, Serbia $2196 and Macedonia $1171
In 2017 Albania $3945 while Serbia is at $5237 and Macedonia $4568

So my question to you as “Economist” you are why NOT?

I can agree about the comment on her hair and aging. She is very light but bleaching her hair and her makeup is very unsuitable and makes her look much older than she is. She can color her hair but without bleach and make it look more natural if she has to cover her gray. She should stop using that horrible lip-liner that makes her look like a clown instead of a woman. Doesn't she have a fashion consultant? Sorry Jadranka, but someone must tell you the truth and I am Serbian, I don't want you to start looking like those ugly Albanian women...

A strong and united Albania with membership in the EU and NATO....Serbia fears the most!

Slav exploitation of indigenous natural resources as in TREPCA Mines is a thing of the past...

Serbs need must learn to earn a living but not at our expense!

The natives Rights are being realized and slav days of institutionalized discrimination are no more.

Unitity is feared by the bully Serb and rightly so.

When we are united and appropriately armed Slavs can't continue with wanton violence and crimes against us.....

We will reclaim our historic ancestral homelands to where it may lead us.

Nish is ours and so is ....
Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Hungarian-Vojvodina and Bosnian-Sanxhjak is next for un-occupation and Liberation...

Bulgarian areas are next...

Serbia will shrink until it is no more....

Only then the greatest threat to peace and stability will be eliminated!

Darko we Albanians and the International Community support realistic and open minded Serbs that acknowledge reality and that Kosova that was illegally occupied and used and abused by Serbs can NEVER RETURN TO THAT ABUSE!

Darko thank you for supporting our freedom and independence.

If only Serbs had more honest and honorable people in power instead of Milosevic's students of occupation.

I have hope Serbia will come to their assumed senses before they shrink so much that they no longer exist.....

I think this mark the END of the peacful Albanians and serb relations. This is an hostile act done by the serbian governments. We will see a lot of troubles in the future.

Bad move from the serb side. I guess you are asking for trouble and eventually you'll get that.

Hahahahah what is it serbs?
You are getting afraid?

A strong and united Albania with membership in the EU and NATO....Serbia fears the most!

Slav exploitation of indigenous natural resources as in TREPCA Mines is a thing of the past...

Serbs need must learn to earn a living but not at our expense!

The natives Rights are being realized and slav days of institutionalized discrimination are no more.

Unitity is feared by the bully Serb and rightly so.

When we are united and appropriately armed Slavs can't continue with wanton violence and crimes against us.....

We will reclaim our historic ancestral homelands to where it may lead us.

Nish is ours and so is ....
Presheva,Medvedja and Bujanoc.

Hungarian-Vojvodina and Bosnian-Sanxhjak is next for un-occupation and Liberation...

Bulgarian areas are next...

Serbia will shrink until it is no more....

Only then the greatest threat to peace and stability will be eliminated!
(Azir, 5 May 2017 11:32) # Comment link

Why stop there Azir ,
Take Greater Albania all the way to Tokyo , Stockholm and Sydney .
Hitler too had that dream Azir.
Albanians aren't German's 😀))

when Albanians wants to be equal with others in Balkan than Serbians Greeks and others consider this as threat for their interests!
100 years Albanians considered by Serbs and Greeks as dogs!
100 years ago Albanians in this territory which we call now Macedonia they were majority now they hardly can reach 30 or 35 %. What happened with Albanians in Macedonia during last 100 years?
I pray God that Politic which made Albanians street dogs for 100 years will never come to the power again!

Don't you think Serbia is wasting to much energy with Kosovo. Or is wasting to much energy using Kosovo to lie its own people on trying to cover the real Serbia problems :

There was limited progress in human rights protection in Serbia in 2016. War crimes prosecutions are slow and lack political support. The Roma minority continue to face attacks and harassment. The situation for journalists remains precarious, including attacks, threats, and lawsuits for reporting on sensitive issues.Serbia struggled in the face of increasing numbers of migrants and asylum seekers, with poor reception conditions, police abuse, and an inadequate asylum system.
Journalists operated in a hostile environment that included attacks, threats, and lawsuits for reporting ..this is Serbia's report for 2016..
Please media stop your propaganda. It is for serbia's best.. there are real problems in serbia. The people are poor. Stop the kosovo bullshit. Kosovo is indipendent like montenegro and the other ex yugoslavia countries

Strange that I only hear about Greater Albania plans only in Serbian news and from Serbian politicians. I follow Albanian politics closely and not once is this even a topic of discussion. Use the internet Serbs. No excuse to be fooled by thugs.

Legally, serbian officials have no base to complain about the topic they have pointed to EU ambassadors. From my experience, EU will never take seriously such hysteria stressed by serbians without any based ground for what they are claiming. This is like barking in without any threat.

Strange that I only hear about Greater Albania plans only in Serbian news and from Serbian politicians.
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Because even albanian politicians aren't stupid enough to call it Greater Albania. They prefer 'Natural Albania' or the 'Tirana Platform' (it's a PR sleight of hand) - or DIDN'T the leaders of regional parties all troop off to Triana and have a nice dinner with Edi Rama and forge a common political outlook? Just swapping family stories was it, making pizzas or FAKE NEWS!? Pull da udder one.

I CONFESS!

I confess Albanians are conspiring to living in peace ,prosperity and harmony.

I admit Albanians also want unity not because we want to make Greater Albania since Albania is already a Great country...

We confess to wanting Democracy....
Freedom from Occupation...
Freedom from corruption....

Normal life means non-Slav dominated ,institutionalized discriminated or manipulated....

Fairness,equality and opportunity is not to much to ask for in " Macedonia"?

We inevitably will all be united in NATO and the EU as A Natural Albania 🇦🇱 🇺🇸🇽🇰🇪🇺❤
Because anything else would be artificial...

Did serb ministers reported to eu ambassadors the threat with the train, or the threat that nikolici will go to war with his 2 sons?6

Yugoslavian_Loyal : Kosovo is American and forever will be.

DON'T PANIC RUSSIA WILL HELP YOU. WE ALREADY CONTROL THE MEDITERRANIEN AIR AND SEA. EVERYBODY TALKS ONLY OF THE S-300 AND S-400 BUT THEY FORGET OF THE BASTION SYSTEMS DEPLOYED IN HMEIMIM AND TAURUS. TONIGHT WE WILL FORBID ANY FLIGHTS IN THE SYRIAN AIR FOE THE US COALITION OF 62 STATES. SO RUSSIA IS MUCH CLOSER THAN YOU THINK. SEE YOU !


from Albania : I guess you are asking for trouble and eventually you'll get that.

THIS TIME YOU WILL FACE MORE OF THE RUSSIANS THAN OF THE SERBS.

Pyrrhic 1999 : You are getting afraid?

WE HAVE NO SUCH WORDS IN OUR VOCABULARY.

Albanians are shaking in their boots. Has anyone ever told you Serbs no one likes you, I mean atleast with us Albanians we know it and could not care less. We understand our role and play it well you still think Serbia is the late great Yugoslavia and not some backwards insignificant Balkan nation. Greater Albania doesn't exist because Albanians are spread out all over the Balkans and we have assimilated in to our surrogate countries with no problem, only when you took Kosovos autonomy did Albanians rebel. Imagine if Milosevic hadn't been a hard nut racist and left the Albanians alone, Kosovo would still be yours right now. However thank god he was and Albanians gained their freedom from the clutches of racist Serbs. Peace and love though, on a side note don't let your corrupt politicians distract you from the real issues at home with a made up non existent Albanian threat.

Albania is the cesspool of Europe.

I read all theses comments and see that not one of these Albanians have a clue what is going on. Serbia is not afraid. Its all about diplomatic positioning. Its a game.

On the issue of how Greek and Serbs treated Albanians like dogs for 100 years. When you grovel on all fours and growl your then treated like a dog, but when you stand up on two legs and behave in a civilized manner then you will be treated as an human being. After a collective 7 months travelling in Europe in 2015 and 2016 I can truly say that no one likes Albanians. Even the Brits dont like them since all they see is Albanian criminals filling their prisons..

Again is that her natural hair colour? I don't know what it is with Serbian women, I'm not sure they quite understand what growing old gracefully means.

The Serbian obsession with Albanians is a little creepy.

Quite a few Albanian commentards prefer putting all their energy in to flaming, trolling, insulting and lying on B92 than going up against their own corrupt leaders and officials because they know they are untouchable and the consequences of standing up to them would be fatal. So much for european values. They can't even make things better with what they already have. Greater Albania will only be more of the same. Just like the Borg.

http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/d/a/Europe-and-Eurasia

Why is Serbia and Bosnia at the top of this list and Kosovo virtually at the bottom. Also pull up Kosovo and see funding from USA is virtually zero in 2017. I believe in theory USA believes the best form of stability has to be Serbia so they fund them OR they believe Serbia will be the most volatile so fund them to keep them under control. One way or another nothing will happen in this region unless USA says so. Time we all acknowledge that. Kosovo is American and forever will be. The rest is a show piece of democracy. My only wish was a united Balkans, but a region where nationalism is a currency. They will keep putting us against each other like chess pieces. My grandmother and her neighbour of 71 f@#king years. A Serb and a Albanian loved each other like sisters, never let anyone tell them they couldnt be friends, but nowadays we are left with nothing but a Symbol. Hate is now taught. Same DNA gene pool code would be Serbs and Albanians but none of that means nothing. Now we pit a black eagle against a white eagle and wait for our American masters to decide when our next war is. Unemployment high all over the place, corrupt leaders on both sides yet everyone is so proud. The Americans laugh at both of us behind closed doors. The biggest fear from the West was unity in the Balkans. Why do you think they constantly want to destabilize, but we have given them their wish due to our ignorance...

We Serbs are simply doing our due diligence. When things hit the fan, we will have regional cooperation. You Albanians are not a majority in the Balkans. It will not end well for you, especially if you believe what the U.S. tells you. Remember, nobody gives a crap about the Balkans. All of those around us are using us as pawns.

NO, because Afghanistan is a poor backward country of the world. If Afghanistan were larger, than the problems in the world would be larger. Same as Albania, by trying to make a country with problems bigger, essentially your making the problem bigger, not smaller and contained...
Secondly.
A greater Albania is a mistake, in fact, a smaller Albania is what is need for regional stability, and scientific progress.
(Nikola Novakovic, 6 May 2017 01:13)

And this is exactly the reason why Vojvodina will leave Serbia and Serbia will be only Beograd and surroundings. No one wants a genocidal backward nation to get bigger. While you are waiting for albania to get smaller we already can see serbia vanishing to nothing. We might get smaller, who knows but by that time, serbia will already be gone. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

"To the the arguments of Joksimovic and Djuric about the aggressive behavior of Albanians and the need for greater involvement of Brussels, EU diplomats responded by saying that all sides should work to calm the situation, while the aim was peace and stability in the region."

That's like the EU diplomats politely telling to Jadranka and Marko that they had no idea what Jadranka and Marko were talking about and that they should chill down lol

Fake news and moderated comments if this is the Slavic Standard* we could all use a little democracy right now.

God Bless America, God Bless a Free World.

To all Albanians.,. Your vision of "freedom" and "democracy" is horrific and pathetic...Just look at Kosovo...The most intolerant and the poorest region in Europe that is ruled by thugs and narco dealers...For all non Albanians in Kosovo,life is more than miserable...God please save us of Albanian "democracy"...

There is no "greater Albania", there is only albania and her NATO run colony of Kosovo, which is occupied at the moment. However I don't see the big deal of a Kosovo army, another war in the Balkans would benefit both Macedonia and Serbia because if hostilities did break out, you would see the Albanian populations from Macedonia and Kosovo flee to western Europe. They love that welfare and as war refugees they would be welcomed into the EU with open arms. It's only a matter of time..

A greater Albania would pose to many problems for the region and world.
Firstly, could anyone imagine making a greater Afghanistan. NO, because Afghanistan is a poor backward country of the world. If Afghanistan were larger, than the problems in the world would be larger. Same as Albania, by trying to make a country with problems bigger, essentially your making the problem bigger, not smaller and contained...
Secondly, A greater Albania would allow for Islamist influences as many Muslim Albanians seek to establish sharia law throughout Albainian controlled areas. This Islamic influence in a greater Albania could possibly pose a serious threat to the safety of EU citizens, especially as tensions in the Middle East continue to rise...
A greater Albania is a mistake, in fact, a smaller Albania is what is need for regional stability, and scientific progress.

Quite a few Albanian commentards prefer putting all their energy in to flaming, trolling, insulting and lying on B92 than going up against their own corrupt leaders and officials because they know they are untouchable and the consequences of standing up to them would be fatal. So much for european values. They can't even make things better with what they already have. Greater Albania will only be more of the same. Just like the Borg.
(PickHard, 5 May 2017 12:57)

False assumptions, false pretenses.
Get a life.

Here's another thing that Albanians aren't responsible for

Despite Pressure, Kosovo Hesitates to Set Border Vote
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/kosovo-under-international-pressure-on-demarcation-agreement-05-04-2017

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No EU visa liberalization without a ratified border agreement, but greater albania supporters don't recognize currente borders. What does this mean? It's all Sri Lanka's fault!

I CONFESS!

I confess Albanians are conspiring to living in peace ,prosperity and harmony.

I admit Albanians also want unity not because we want to make Greater Albania since Albania is already a Great country...

We confess to wanting Democracy....
Freedom from Occupation...
Freedom from corruption....

Normal life means non-Slav dominated ,institutionalized discriminated or manipulated....

Fairness,equality and opportunity is not to much to ask for in " Macedonia"?

We inevitably will all be united in NATO and the EU as A Natural Albania 🇦🇱 🇺🇸🇽🇰🇪🇺❤
Because anything else would be artificial...
(Azir, 5 May 2017 23:26)


Azir,
Well said. Bravo vella.

Quite a few Albanian commentards prefer putting all their energy in to flaming, trolling, insulting and lying on B92 than going up against their own corrupt leaders and officials because they know they are untouchable and the consequences of standing up to them would be fatal. So much for european values. They can't even make things better with what they already have. Greater Albania will only be more of the same. Just like the Borg.
(PickHard, 5 May 2017 12:57) #

I recommend you buy a mirror.

I think this mark the END of the peacful Albanians and serb relations. This is an hostile act done by the serbian governments. We will see a lot of troubles in the future.

Bad move from the serb side. I guess you are asking for trouble and eventually you'll get that.
(from Albania, 5 May 2017 14:06)
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So throwing stones at Serbs who arrive by bus to visit their churches is peaceful? Destroying our churches and monasteries and cemeteries is peaceful? Intimidating anyone who wants to return to Kosovo Peaceful?
Since when did you show us any peace? If you consider all this peaceful what is your version of hostile then?
Oh yes, we saw that. Harvesting our organs falls into that category.
You've never shown us any peace but will use anything to justify your hostility towards us.

rote, 5 May 2017 18:52)

Nobody scared of you, i mean NOBODY.
You've been tested plenty of times , and you did NOTHING. Common hot air, time date anything?
All you do is talk, I guess an empty can makes more noise than the full one

I have hope Serbia will come to their assumed senses before they shrink so much that they no longer exist.....
(Azir, 5 May 2017 11:40)

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Dude, it's not Serbia that is denying the residents of KiM visa-free access to the EU. Please focus on your senses before casting stones.

Niko,
You missed the most obvious example:

The West has 35 years that's throwing money to Greece. Now that they are cutting it short and demanding change it is the politicians that are reacting, not the people. The people who were starving are still not seeing the money.

The Serbian obsession with Albanians is a little creepy.
(Comment, 6 May 2017 16:30)
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Our obsession with you? Really?
It's the other way around. You Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
Do you see us doing the same? No. Why not? Because we couldn't care less about you or what you think. That's how insignificant you are to us.

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)
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You don't even know where you are, do you?

Albanians aren't Serbias problem. Poverty, corruption, high youth unemployment, organised crime, rigged voting systems, low fertility rates, low economic development and so on. Those are the real issues that your politicians refuse to tackle, but would rather focus on the Serbian bogeyman Albania.

And this is exactly the reason why Vojvodina will leave Serbia and Serbia will be only Beograd and surroundings. No one wants a genocidal backward nation to get bigger. While you are waiting for albania to get smaller we already can see serbia vanishing to nothing. We might get smaller, who knows but by that time, serbia will already be gone. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.
(Gjon Marku, 6 May 2017 18:30)

Considering that Serbs comprise about 85% of Vojvodina, when are they going to depart Serbia again? or perhaps like Nis, Novi Sad is also Albanian?
You play too much with doodle.

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, what you wrote is total nonsense. That's because, always according to the CE of B92 forums sj, a country needs financing in order to join NATO. But, according to the CE of B92 forums sj again, the US has collapsed and run out of cash, so the US can't provide that financing!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:53)

Only when using an Albanian abicus do the finances of the US shine. I’m still waiting of the Albanian text book on raising and harvesting money trees LOL.
You desperately need to improve your lines, they really are tired, repetitive and ludicrous. But I did not take into account that you might be mentally challenged and that’s all you can say, so keep on CE, sj…….LOL.

Guys... I think we need to be a bit realistic here... Yes, Kosovo is more than 90% ethnically Albanian, however it is the historic land of Serbia and the reason there aren't many Serbs left is because the Albanians kicked them out during the Kosovo war... Also, in order for Kosovo to gain UN membership, it's membership must be accepted by ALL 5 UN leadeing countries which are the USA, UK, France, Russia, and China so it will never be a fully independent country because both Russia and China have said they will refuse to accept Kosovo to join the UN... The only hope Kosovo has is if that law is changed and replaced with a law that says if the majority of the 5 UN leading states (which is at least 3, and in that case they are good because they have the USA, UK and France) accept its membership, then it can be in the UN...

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)

Try B92 for starters. You really are not very bright; are you? Asking such a ridiculous question.

No Albanian in Macedonia is advocating any notion of Greater Albania, all this talk of Greater Albainia is coming from Kosovo (and there diaspora, who left due to political & economic mismanagement of Kosovo, yet feel a need to troll Serbian websites in a vain attempt to feel relevant).
Lets look at the numbers:
GDP of Albania (2016) was (US)$3,945.2
GDP of Kosovo (2016) was (US)$3,552.4
GDP of Macedonia (2016) was (US)$4,852.7
Source: Worldbank.org (http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD)
So why would Albanians in Macedonia (who make nearly 40% more then there fellow kinsmen in Kosovo) want to separate from Macedonia and then join a poorer country and be financially worst off?
Also look at the population trends, Albainia in 1990 was 3.5M, in 2016 they are only 2.8M (a 20% drop) so even Albanians in Albania, don’t want to live in Albania, so how would a (so called) Greater Albania benefit the Albanians in Macedonia?

(The Economist, 7 May 2017 14:21)

You make a very good point.
This is not a question of a greater Albania for Albanians but it’s a matter for the US which wishes to stir up trouble so they can then try and move in western alliance monitors or even peacekeepers to ensure that Macedonia democratically joins NATO and does not stray from the right path according to Washington.
Last time the Langley clods tried that was in 2015 when they sent in that group from Kosovo which ended in a police shootout.

Again is that her natural hair colour? I don't know what it is with Serbian women, I'm not sure they quite understand what growing old gracefully means.
(Fake blond, 5 May 2017 14:28)

Sexist pig.

This is not a question of a greater Albania for Albanians but it’s a matter for the US which wishes to stir up trouble so they can then try and move in western alliance monitors or even peacekeepers to ensure that Macedonia democratically joins NATO
(sj, 8 May 2017 11:20)

According to the CE of B92 forums sj, what you wrote is total nonsense. That's because, always according to the CE of B92 forums sj, a country needs financing in order to join NATO. But, according to the CE of B92 forums sj again, the US has collapsed and run out of cash, so the US can't provide that financing!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

@Yugoslav_Loyal,
You are completely wrong on the assertion of you logic sir, if you think that throwing money to be misused by politicians is the solution to the problem. In fact history can teach that the more the governments are pressed to cleanse themselves.
Example are post war Germany , France, England and Italy and the Marshall plan. Germany got the least amount of money from the plan, yet they were the first to rebuild and prosper.
Another example was of Spain in the 1500-1600 where they were flooded with gold and silver from the Americas, yet all of it ended up in Great Britain and Netherlands.
Bosnian politicians are the only one who benefit from all these "free" money and they have no incentives of changing the status quo. Why Dodik or Izetbegovic would care to change? They still get paid!
The West has 25 years that's throwing money to Albania. Now that they are cutting it short and demanding change it is the politicians that are reacting, not the people. The people who were starving are still not seeing the money.

"From Albania" is a UDB troll. Not Albanian, doesn't keep to Albanian themes, doesn't even "stir s*** up" like a Shqipëtar.

Economist…

Just adding some more facts…
Albania had in 1990 $218 gdp, Serbia $2196 and Macedonia $1171
In 2017 Albania $3945 while Serbia is at $5237 and Macedonia $4568

So my question to you as “Economist” you are why NOT?

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)

You don't even know where you are, do you?
(Peggy, 9 May 2017 03:40)

I'm on an English news site which is not owned by you...

How about you? Do you even know where you are? lol

Albanians are constantly trolling our sites and spewing venom at us.
(Peggy, 8 May 2017 04:58)

Which sites of yours are Albanians constantly trolling, dear?!
(icj1, 8 May 2017 15:56)

Try B92 for starters
(sj, 9 May 2017 09:20)

B92 is a company, not a site... But since the CE of B92 forums sj does not have time to deal with this stuff, I'm more than happy to assist. There are a couple of sites that start with B92... a Serbian one www.b92.net/info and an English one www.b92.net/eng Perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj can tell our dear friend Peggy which of the two she must be referring to :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Azir it starts with a shift of listening to the other side and understanding only then you will get we are all one and together all of us
and more importantly than anything you see with open eyes you are not discriminated but you expectations and not getting them makes you feel you are
then the narrative is built around that

Macedonians first have genuine fear of Albanian succession
accountability and reasonability it is now time
nobody likes seeing a victim mentality that makes you the hostage

I like the way guric it's to him behind her like a butler , waiting for his turn to talk 🤣

Respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty of internationally recognised states? Bad news for Dodik then.

I can agree about the comment on her hair and aging. She is very light but bleaching her hair and her makeup is very unsuitable and makes her look much older than she is. She can color her hair but without bleach and make it look more natural if she has to cover her gray. She should stop using that horrible lip-liner that makes her look like a clown instead of a woman. Doesn't she have a fashion consultant? Sorry Jadranka, but someone must tell you the truth and I am Serbian, I don't want you to start looking like those ugly Albanian women...

B92 is a company, not a site... But since the CE of B92 forums sj does not have time to deal with this stuff, I'm more than happy to assist. There are a couple of sites that start with B92... a Serbian one [link] and an English one [link] Perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj can tell our dear friend Peggy which of the two she must be referring to :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 9 May 2017 14:26)
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What an idiotic statemen LOL. Psst both the English and Serbian sites belong to B92. You know they are all owned and maintained by the company called B92.
Yep, after posting such a ridiculous comment there is no doubt at all that you will win the dumb dumb award of 2017.

PS Your Albanians also post on the Serbian version.