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US attack on Syria compared to attacks "on Yugoslavia, Iraq"

Russian Senator Oleg Morozov has compared the US attack in Syria to the bombing of Yugoslavia and the intervention in Iraq.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started.
(icj1, 12 April 2017 03:57)

I suggest you read a real book, not comic books. A few hours before the attack!!!
(Jugoslavija, 13 April 2017 18:28)

Yup, Stalin issuing the order to put the Soviet armed forces on alert a few hrs before the attack was almost comical since it's likely that that order did not even manage to reach the units at the front lines before the attack actually started. No wonder the Germans caught the Soviet armed forces by total surprise and millions of Soviet soldiers were captured or killed because of Stalin's paranoia and incompetence.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started.
(icj1, 12 April 2017 03:57)

I suggest you read a real book, not comic books. A few hours before the attack!!! Stalin was not as stupid as you.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
(Dwight, 8 April 2017 15:50)

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started. His paranoia convinced him that all rumors about the German imminent attack were staged by the British in order to get the Soviet Union into war with Germany. Millions of soviet soldiers died because of Stalin's incompetence and paranoia who brought the Soviet Union to the brink of collapse both economically and militarily, only to be saved by the American industrial might.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Russia provided materials that Germany needed to support its war.
(Dwight, 11 April 2017 11:09)

The US also provided more materials to the Nazi's than the Russians did. What is the main reason the Nazi's attacked Russia? Its the oil fields in Azerbaijan as the Ploesti fields in Romania were not enough to supply the panzer divisions. Russia was prepared and ready to completely blow up the oil and gas facilities but the Nazi's were stopped in Leningrad.

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sj

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?

President Trump just ordered a few dozen "clunky old" Tomahawk missiles to be lobbed into Syrian airspace and "state-of-the-art" air defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

That means if the Russians could not stop those missiles then we can expect the US to take over Syria in the next couple of days then LOL.

So they spent about $69 million and the only thing they targeted was on one side of the airfield which had no infrastructure apart from some old aircraft bunkers, which were not even destroyed, while the two main runways plus buildings on the other side of the field and still in use remained untouched.

Does this possibly tell you something? Maybe and just maybe the idea was not to destroy anything but mainly for domestic consumption. By the way the Russians were told well beforehand that this was happening.

Its bozos like you that believe everything TV tell you. Ask CNN or Fox when the US intends to take over Syria. This week or next? If you were living in the Artic they could sell you a refrigerator.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(Jugoslavija, 10 April 2017 18:22)
Hitler always had an idea to attack Russia, but any attempt explain Stalin's pact with Hitler and the subsequent invasion of neighboring countries as a ruse to get time is a joke.

Stalin did not remain neutral and it was an alliance .
If he wanted to stall for time he would have stayed out of Poland allowing them to fight Germany. The invasion of Poland was a joint operation with co-ordination between the 2 attacking countries
Russia provided materials that Germany needed to support its war.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

see how Europeans painted Rus Khans/Cams/Chammes in Siberia, China, Asia and America - you don't need to understand Russian to find that something is wrong in our history especially when it comes to Gengis Khan ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOdNvsN4zs

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

The link you gave about Arta directly points at Octavianus Augustus whom the Rjurikovici considered their ancestor. The always mentioned only this name as the start of their dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebOVJAqDL6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQaaeLvaOGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrXrarhUn0

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu - 4

He called it Stan Bulgar because the hordes came from Volga (Belga, Bulgar) River. Now they became neighbors to the Mamelukes who controlled Iraq, Syria, Palestine and Africa (Afri Can). Mamelukes collected taxes and guarded the saint places. Yet conflicts happened like the Battle of Angora (Han Gora) that is capitol of Turkey now. It happened not in 1402 like we are told but in late 15 century while Tamerlane was one of the names of Mehmet II. Mamelukes were strong enough to defeat the Osmans (Rosmans) 2-3 times. So Selim I launched a war in 1516 defeating the Mamelukes on the Dabiq Field near Aleppo. He had an advantage of 50 copper cannons while the Mamelukes relied on their best heavy cavalry. Sultan Cansava (Can Sava) was killed and his nephew Tumen Bey failed to collect new horde. What happened next was surprising. Selim I (Father of Suleiman) called himself Calif i.e. head of the military, civil and church powers worldwide. Just like once Bati Khan (Vatican) had done ! Half of the Mamelukes refused to obey him and returned to north Caucasus in early 1517. Those were Kabarda (Kaaba Orda) Adigs and the Ossetians. Cherkassy Princes take roots from Astrakhan but their initial roots were in Ukraine. They were dissolved fast among their people and left no trace after 18 century. But Kabarda people lead their chronolgy since Inal Svetly ___ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Inal while I found 3 Ossetian Mameluke Amirs only.

see part 5

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 5

Initially the Mamelukes were of Slavic and North Caucasian origyn. But after 1517 when Mist Sultanate was submitted to the Ottomans (Atamans) things Balkan peoples including the non-Slavic were involved to rule the vast African (Afri Can) Asian lands. Be careful when it comes to word Albanian because the Mamelukes and the Ottomans were both Albanians aka Beli aka Ak aka Whites. Libya, Lebanon, Baalbek and many other words pointed at it. Even the sea near Lybia was marked on maps as White Sea. So was Morocco (More Aka) = Sea of the White and many other toponymals on the shore and deep inside the continent. Tunisia = Tanais = Tan Asia = Dona Asia. Sudan is composed of two words (Su and Dan) meaning the same (River, Water) in Turkic and Rus languages. 80% of the MAIN toponymals in Africa still have Slavic or Turkic/Tatar roots. Those are the main rivers, mountains, places and Arda-Orda-Arta is one of such markers. So it's not strange that you have them like male and female names. If you take name Anna and enter Wikipedia you will soon find it Hanna oryginal and so are the famous Canaans no matter how they explain it. Balkan peoples was one for centuries and that's why they had no conflicts before 19 century. So I get upset when we talk about some Croats Kings, Albanian leagues, Serbian Zhupans and other imagionary ghosts. The truth is written in our genomes, maps and other places. But we avoid to see it not to look traitors in our current conflicts.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

part 3

As I wrote it above in 1380 the Great Khan Dmirty I Donskoy moved to Tsargrad and called it Constantinpole (Con Stan Tin Pole) where Tin could mean Tanais now Azov city. Central district was called Halk-i Don = People of Don (River). Another date to remember is 1382 when Dmitry sent his Mamelukes to Misr. It's very important to keep them in mind because in 15 century relations between the descendants of Prince Dmitry and his son Vasily I (Bayased I) and the Khans who stayed in mainland Rus began to worsen. In 1445 Greek Patriarch abandoned Veliki Novgorod for Tsargrad. Formal direct descendant of Dmitry I ect was young Constantine IX in Tsargrad but de facto the empire was ruled from Veliki Novgorod by other Rjurikovici who believed that their relatives in Tsargrad had lost their Hordian spirit and traditions. It could not last long as it threatened the whole Empire so preparation for the war was started. Meanwhile the Mamelukes were the main land force of the Rjurikovici in Tsargrad but they were too far from the potential battlefield and of course they could not withstand the Great Horde. Then in 1453 the Great Horde led by Mehmet II concentrated in Macedonia. They brought fleet but the Golden Horn was closed with a big chain so the ships were moved (volokom) through the surphase. It was a traditional Rus way to move ships between rivers. Constantine IX died in the battle and Mehmet II (Michail Tverskoy) seized the city.

see part 4

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
(Dwight, 8 April 2017 15:50) # Comment link

That't not true, Stalin signed the agreement to buy time, they were never a"allies" a falsehood taught by some historians. If you really want to educated yourself, read the rise and fall of the Third Reich by William Shafer who was in the Nazi government and the book is based on factual documents comprised of diaries diaries of German Generals , Stalin , Molotov, Galeazzo Ciano and others. Hitler in Mein Kemp specifically talks about Lebensraum and to eliminate the lower class Slavs and break Russia.
https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-History/dp/1451651686

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu
part 2

Kniaz Dmitry launched a big invasion to Misr in 1382 and I can explain why coz after the Golden Horde was destroyed it followers still sticked to the old pagan version of Christianity while Dmitry/ Constantine advertised the Apostolic one. So he had to do something about it to cement the Empire. ME was a vital region so the first hordes were sent there. Those were heavy cavalry troops that no one could resist. Even after 200 years the Mameluke cavalry remained the best. But since 1250 other Rus Hordes were already deployed in the region. They are called Kurds (K-orda) now.

It was then that the Kaaba stone was delivered to Mecca and other saint things were transported to that far away province. Pyramides were built under the survey of the Mamelukes to keep the gold of the Empire. But in 16 century it was transported to Tobolsk, Siberia.

Very important mission of the Mamelukes was to guard the Imperial Cemetery in Geeze (Kazak) Valley where all the ancestors of the Rus Khans and the Byzantine Emperors were burried as Pharaohs. It was a Rus word written as ПХРН (ПОХОРОН) + NAME. The last Pharaoh was burried 7 years before Napoleon digged him out. Dead bodies were brought here from all over the world and the Mamelukes were put here to guard them.

Copt people were sent here from Astrakhan Region to take care and pray for the dead Khans. They had no language problems with the Mamelukes who refused to speak Arabiab for centuries.

see part 3

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2017 11:51)

Wow you are so smart, omg you are genius, you are the smartest . Look at your name , something that doesn't exist. O M G

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu : during communist era they replaced Misir with Janina, Ioannina.

They changed words all the time before, during and after the communists and it happened all over the earth. Each king or president had his own resons to improve the past. That's why we fell into idiotism discussin what was first egg or chicken, who settled here or there first ect. They change only one letter and it changes the whole idea. Replace a letter in Ken Turky chicken (turkey) and you receive Kentukky Chicken or California instead of Calif Orda, Canada instead of Can Arda or America instead of Amer-i Can ect.ect. And it happens all over the earth be it Okeania (Ak-e Hania) , Confucius ( Con Fuji) in China or Fuji Hama in Japan. Out of 5 Portlands (P--Orta Land) in America 2 has no acces to any water ect. ect. It's all the same in Latin America, New Zeeland ect. In one case they write Awkland in the other it's Oakland and nobody sees that in both cases we deal with Ak Land = land of the Whites/Beli/Ak/Albabians ... So your communists were innocent childs changing a couple words only. They had no intention to change the whole history and they besides didn't spoil the song.

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The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Some of the comments below once again make their own stereotypes.
(LOL, 7 April 2017 15:28)


LOL,
As do your comments. Conspiracy theories live and die on b92.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu : @ Rote Which ethnicity do you think Mamelukes belonged to? We have Arta as a name for women and Artan for men.

It's a good question. According to Fomenko the main force of the Mamelukes was composed of the Great Princes Cherkasskie from Donbass region. Next came the Adiga and Ossetians from northern Caucasusus. By mistake the Caucasians are called Cherkess now but none of the several Adiga peoples nor the Ossetians nor the Chechens nor any other Caucasians agrees to be Cherkess. Each of them has a name of their own. So after the Goden Horde was destroyed in 1380 the Great khan/kniaz Dmitry I Donskoy moved his religious capitol back to Jerusalem. He took there his Greek Patriarch and since then ruled the empire from Tsargrad. In Turkish chronicles he entered as Murat I while in European ones he is Constantine I. It sounds strange only untill you begin to correlate the dates. Then everything becomes plain ald logical. In 1389 Khan Dmity aka Murat was killed on Kosovo field while Constantine lived much earlier as we are told. The truth is that there's a shift of the dates in European history equal to 1152 years and in Greek history about 1800 years and in Byzantine about 330 years. Now if you add 1152 years to the official date of death of Cinstantine I (337) you'll find yourself on the same Kosovo field of 1389. To say nothing that Constantine sounds very much of a Con Stan = Han's Place and Constantinopole = Con Stan Pole.

see part-2

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sj

pre 7 godina

This chemical attack is a tad too convenient for me so it was the rebels, who are losing on all fronts, thought they would get a full scale response from the US and provide some relief and turn the tide for them.
Or even the US could have organised this so they could justify any actions and improve Trump's standings. I cant for the life of me see what gain Assad would get in dropping these chemical weapons since he is wining on all fronts.

The US response was weird to say the least. They unleashed $69 million worth of Cruise Missiles and they only hit old and empty bunkers on one side of the airfield but the two main runways and buildings still in use were not touched. And it now has come out that Moscow was advised of US intentions well in advance. Very strange.

This is one of the better articles covering this story http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/04/donald-trumps-symbolic-strike-syria-170407122029617.html

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

You must be an Albanian pizza flipper then since your comment above perfectly fits the way you described them lol
(icj1, 8 April 2017 16:12)

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PS CB = Chief Bigot

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

Rote 2 Speaking of Misir I was searching for an old folk song "Mora rrugen per Misir" (I headed to Misir) and I found out that during communist era they replaced Misir with Janina, Ioannina. Here is the song though performed by legendary clarinet maestro Laver Bariu. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyk76k_laver-bariu-mora-rrugen-per-janine_music. If you like folk music here is a famous albanian song performed in a scene from Gjeneral Gramofoni film released in 1978. A group of albanians playing folk music during the fascist occupation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm-wCT4nboA It is such a beautiful tosk song "Te rrapi ne Mashkullore" but Im not good at translating folklor songs. I asked my daughter who speaks american english better that Maxine Waters but she said you must be a tosk to understand this song and I am a geg! If Victory 99 helps me I will be very grateful.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Rote Which ethnicity do you think Mamelukes belonged to? We have Arta as a name for women and Artan for men. Also I found these on the despotate of Arta and the Gulf of Arta. Why do you think that nobody wants to know more on the things you write on? Maybe balkans people are just striving to survive as always and these trips into the past that you offer to the publuc are just a luxury many cant afford. Many of us strive to have an almost normal life, many dont have one, others never had one, others are loose fighters of dead empires.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despotate_of_Arta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambracian_Gulf

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rote

pre 7 godina

The Brits appointed the Saudittes to rule the region and it was the first time that local tribes got an access to Mecca! Mamelukes took a very active part in wars against the Protestants in Europe. It lasted for decades in late 16 and in 17 centuries when they helped the Catholic Church and the House of Medici and and Gerzog Alba and Phillip II of Spain. Even in 19 century they still spoke Russian and Tatar languages. They called themselves PEOPLE while Arabs were like beasts for them. And even in central Turkey where they settled after 1811 local peoples accepted them like Gods. You know that Kabarda and Ossetian Mamelukes went to the ME as Orthodox and returned as Othodox Cristians but in late 19 century after 101 years of wars against Russia greater part of the Kabarda people had to run to Turkey where 5 millions of them live now against 500 000 in Russia. But after 1826 the Ottomans became absolute Muslims so they put a condition that they could accept the refugees only as Muslims. Kabarda peoples are called Cherkess in Turkey but it's a mistake. Their ethnonim is Adiga while Cherkess were pure Russians. Word Cabardes can also be found on map of France ...

We know too little about our past otherwise there would be not so much confrontation I think. Shqiptare footprints may be found even in the Far East on Aleut Islands bcause the hordes were sent to all parts of the empire. Very ofthen they stayed there forever ...

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 2

Because both were submitted to it. But part of the Mamelukes returned home in early 1517. Those were Great Kbiazes Cherkasskie (Voisko Donskoe), Kabarda and Ossetian people of Caucasus. They arrived like Tsars but not like refugees. They had high and swift horses that nobody had ever seen on the Caucasus and they drove them like no one coud. Their dress and arms changed too since they abandoned Caucasus in 1382. More than that they came here with thousands of their slaves and it became a big problem of Russia when slavery was abolished here in 1861. In Kabarda it took about 20-30 years because slavery became their national tradition and their women did not know how to do many things. By the way Kabarda means Kaaba Orda because they guarded Kaaba and Medina (Медынь) since 1382 till 1516 never letting Arabs inside. It was Burdji Dynasty called after the castle in Misr (Cairo). After Selim I destroyed the Mamelukes he appointed them to rule the same lands that included half Africa + Hijjaz + Syria + Iraq + what is called Palestine now. It looks strange from current viewing of the history as Selim became Calif of all the Muslims while the Mamelukes remained Orthodox Christians. So Hidjaz with Mecca and Medina was ruled by the Christians till 1811 when the Brits invited 800 most powerful Mamelukes to Cairo and massacred them. Other Mamelukes had to abandon Misr for Anatolia.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 1

Balkans weren't a colony of the Ottomans but their metropoly. So after the Dabiq Battle of 1516 when Misr was destroyed many people from the peninsula were sent to Africa and other former Misr provinces. If you could see the map under the same angle as I do you would find lots of interesting things that never occured to you. Main toponimals there are still of Rus/Slavic or Tatar/Turkic orygin.

I remember that I've promiced you ORDA/ ARTA/ URDU/ ORDO/ RADA/ RAT words. But it's so annoying to filter them out. Besides I begin to think that maybe the unfiltered mix of mine would show a better pictire all over the world. Say the Nile River that you have mentioned is reflected in the names of all Europeans but who could have an access to the region except the Great Horde? And so is the Serbian word Nilski Kon (Nile Horse) for Hypopotam. How could they know about it unless they saw it by themselves?

Same with the river itself. There were two Niles the Blue and the White one. Half of the river was named White Nile after the White Horde (the main) and the other was Blue Nile after the Blue Horde in Ukraine. When the Golden Horde was destroyed in 1380 the Blue Horde submitted to the White and the empire was consolidated again. Ottoman Padishahs called Sultans later were a branch of the Rjurikovici but the Blue Horde belonged to them. So after Misr was defeated in 1516 the Great Horde remained indifferent.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Please tell me if you know that the equipment for Sarine and Iprite production was made in Albania and delivered via Turkey to Syria ? I just want to know how well western media is feeding you. If you knew about it please give me your "like" - just this one time !
(rote, 7 April 2017 19:54) # Comment link
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So most of you heard nothing about the Albanian equipment producing chemical arms in Syria. It's a 2 year old story. Albanian made equipment was found of very low quality but the jihadis have no better supplier so they use it all over Syria and Iraq. Many times the shells and mines were shown over the TV. But the last show of the White Helmets was fake as everything they do. In Idlib they shooted a film where Sarine is handled even without gloves and respirators. If it were for real all would be as good as deads. Last night Al Jazeera showed mines with Sarine found in Mosul. The jihadis used them a couple of days ago but nobody sent there the Tomahawks. Because their problem is Assad but not Al Qaeda. All that chemical weapons is made on Albanian machines of the Saudi chemical components. Russian reporters showed the mines and shells many times during our Aleppo operation. All international organizations were informed but they stay silent ... Everything is also available in U-Tube. The equipment was delivered via Turkey and deployed in Idlib province controlled by the Turks.

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АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

B 92 why rote it's allowed to use "stupid" on his comments, and every time i try it's filtered
(Albanian American, 8 April 2017 01:10)

American Albanian sounds as ridiculous as Hebrew SS. Most natural word to accompany Albanian is word Rus, not even Russian. Illyrians were a Slavic tribe so ask yourself ancesrors other than ours. Why don't you like my version of the Shqiptare who came together in early 19 century? In a way I don't mind you call yourself Albanians and use our coat of arms, Skenderbeu legends, The Albanian League ect.

Shqiptars could be in our American hordes but they could only be submitted to the Slavs. It was a caste society where the Rjuricovici and their branches ruled only. Such as Nemanici, Medici, Izjaslavic Turovskie, Monomahici, Svjatoslavici ect. Even Tamerlanane could not head a horde because only his wife was a Rjurikovici ... So he remained an Amir only. But the Ottoman Padishahs (Sultans) were all Rjuricovici, unlike the Prussian Romanovs (aka Sobakini-Jurjevi) ...

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Politically why would he launch a chemical attack
(Petar, 7 April 2017 22:53)

You provided the answer to that questions.... "Russia is on his side and days earlier Trump revealed he doesn't mind Assad staying in power" (Petar, 7 April 2017 22:53)

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

People use your brain. Where are Iraq's weapons of mass destruction? Where were them? In the bathrooms alla turka of Sadam? This nation of psycopaths just needs a justification for their dirty wars. 1 million lives in Iraq, Iraq, Lybia and Syria completely destroyed. People, civilians are dying like sheep in Yemen and Iraq and trump cries over little babies in Syria? What about millions of little babies you will never see in the news and died you mediocre actor? And you are so worried about Syria that you go playing golf after being so touched from the little babies death? I think they did it, their proxies in Syria or either payed a traitor from Asad's solders to do it. And then bombed Syrians to cover the evidence. Why didnt they wait for an international investigation? And most importantly who are you to decide who deserves to be bombed and who doesnt? Who the hell are you a nation of arrogants and illiterate people who don't even know where Syria and Korea are?

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Rote Maybe you're also playing golf this weekend but I'm still thinking about the sultanate of Misir! So strange that Egypt and Cairo have always been known as Misir in the Balkans, we always referred to Misir. What a surprise has been for me to discover that Misir is not a wonderland somewhere near Nil but it is what Egypt is called today from his own people. Also you're right on the turkic language being a relatively new language and the same turkic nation.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

That's what the English site is for, so semi-literate Albanian pizza flippers can use their internet powered by tractors and generators to send off barely comprehensible text written in English as mangled and jarbled as their dental records. The Serbian site's comment section is light years ahead of what gets filtered through here.
(LOL, 7 April 2017 20:20)

You must be an Albanian pizza flipper then since your comment above perfectly fits the way you described them lol

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

Molotov signed the agreement with Ribbintrop Nazi's to be neutral.
(Jugoslavija, 7 April 2017 17:21)
You should do stand up in a comedy club.
The agreement was not signed to delay any inevitable war. It was a specific agreement that Russia would not defend enemies of Germany including Yugoslavia.
It divided eastern European countries among the two powers allowing Germany to attack eastern Europe and the Balkans, and allowing Stalin to attack Eastern Europe and Asia.

Stalin invaded Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Poland to be neutral?
When UK declared war on Germany for attacking Poland, Stalin attacked Poland!
Hitler no longer had to worry about protecting the Eastern Front and he could then wage war freely knowing Russia would not defend Yugoslavia or anywhere else.
The agreement was not signed to delay an inevitable war. Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
I can only think that your biased revisionism is based on your man-love for Putin or NATO 1999 because it has no basis in facts.

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Free

pre 7 godina

In ex-Yugoslavia the case was clear: a psycopath using army for genocide and ethnic cleansing. NATO bombed only military and strategic targets. There were casualities, both Serbian and Albanian but they were in small numbers, and those bombings saved million of lives.

In Iraq it was a psycopath who bombed the whole country to the ground to remove another psycopath from power and as a result millions of lives were/are ruined.

In Syria are a bunch of psycopaths, Syrian, Russian, American, Turkish etc who are really massacrating the whole Syria.

God forbid you become Trump`s enemy, Putin`s friend and Erdogan`s neighbour.

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ, 7 April 2017 19:45)

Every time USA humiliates you russian bs history professor, you change the subject .
You are full of crap, nothing you say it's true, not even the serbs in this site don't believe what you say , NOTHING... We not rus you dummy , Illyrians have nothing with rus you're moron , everything you say is wrong ,

B 92 why rote it's allowed to use "stupid" on his comments, and every time i try it's filtered

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Navi

pre 7 godina

The airfield that was bombed by US forces yesterday was used by Syrian jets to launch attacks against insurgents just now. So much for American involvement saving the day.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/warplanes-from-syrian-base-hit-by-us-just-carried-out-airstrikes-in-homs/

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Petar

pre 7 godina

This is all a distraction. Does anyone seriously believe Trump all of a sudden cares about "beautiful babies" in Syria? I have doubts that this chemical attack was done by the Assad regime to begin with. Politically why would he launch a chemical attack when Russia is on his side and days earlier Trump revealed he doesn't mind Assad staying in power? This is simply the easiest way for Trump to flex his baby hands and take the attention off of his chaotic administration. His failures with his travel ban and Obamacare repeal and replace are now on the back burner and we can all say "Wow look at President Trump stand up to this dictator. He's such a great leader!" Do not take the bait.

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rote

pre 7 godina

@rote Russia said that it was planes because they have been filmed by witnesses and tracked by NATO. It cannot be denied, any other explanation would make Russia a bigger laughing stock than they already are. Show me this evidence, if it is as fake as the MH17 "evidence", the UN probably put it in the latrines for staff to wipe their asses. It will take time for all facts to be discovered but you wouldn't know what a "documented fact" was even if it slapped you in the head.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 17:44)

The stick in your ass prevents you from thinking. Please pull it out next time you enrich b92 forum with your comments. Russia does not defend all territory of Syria. Our missiles defend the zone around our two bases there. But I think that after the US provocation Putin will respond soon. Maybe not in Syria ... As for MH-17 it was brought down together by Ukraine and Hollande and the USA. From the first minutes it was found our people in Donbass said that some of the bodies were old deads and no blood was coming out of them ...

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rote

pre 7 godina

There is a good possibility that that the gas was stored by someone in a warehouse that was bombed by Syrian pilots and subsequently released into the air causing the horrific fate of the people in the area.
(Sam D, 7 April 2017 19:39)

Warships Ross and Porta moved from Gibraltar and Spain towards the Creete Island 1 and 2 days earlier than the gas appeared. It means a coordination of An-Nusra and the USA as it had always happened in the past. Another sample is a sumultanious missile strike and the land attack of Al Qaeda here. To say nothing that altogether it diverts attention frome barbaric bombardments of Mosul where humanitarian catastrophe is 10 times wordse that the one in Aleppo when Russia released the city. America is a bastard state ruled by a dozen of banking houses who hate the mankind.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

I have one question for the dhiaspora members both serbs and albanians who dedicated poems to trump when this piece of sh*t colour orange won: is it true that this psychopath with the charm of drunken elephant said in an interview that his wife that stupid escort from slovenia doesn't make farts at all? Now what else can be said? Very low level but it,looks like he represents the average american unfortunately.

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LOL

pre 7 godina

This forum is for communicating in English. There is also a Serbian version , You need to find the one for gibberish mumbo jumbo.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 15:27)

That's what the English site is for, so semi-literate Albanian pizza flippers can use their internet powered by tractors and generators to send off barely comprehensible text written in English as mangled and jarbled as their dental records. The Serbian site's comment section is light years ahead of what gets filtered through here.

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Avni

pre 7 godina

Good job USA. To me it's was funny when Russians talk about the international law. Where was international law whey they invaded Georgia and Ukraine? Where war international law when the bombed hospitals and schools in Syria? We live in 2017, and 100 years ago poison gas was used during the WW1. Now Russia supports a dictator who in 2017 gasses own people. What else can one say?

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rote

pre 7 godina

intersting is that Pentagon (5-th Han) attacked Syria (Sur = Rus) from war ships Ross (Fort Ross) and Porta (P-Orta) where all words have Russian roots ...

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

Albanian American: Let me guess. This is got to be rote right?

Let me guess you are the stupidest of the Shqiptars here right ? Who else would write in Russian here when even the Serbian alphabet has no letters Ц, Щ, Й ? b92 does not let me words like idiot, bastard, mulle c*nt's son so I'll simply say that I am the main Albanian here and my ancestors gave name to all the Albanias worldwide, including state Albany, USA.

Be ready to hear that you had no name before 19 century as you were part of 3 different Ottoman nations (milliets) and maybe you were differed with words like Ghegi, Toski, Arnauti and Arbereshi. When Greeks and Serbs started to split away you faced the problem of self identification. Because you belonged to milliet- Muslim, milliet-i Rum (Orthodox) and milliet-i Katolik at the time. The only thing that united you was close dialects. You spoke rather clear for one another and that's why you called yourself Plain Speaking = Shqiptare.

Thus the region inhabited by you was called Shqipperia and it a well documented fact. But the masters of Europe needed to hide the truth about the famous Albanians so they called this small tribe that had never enjoyed it own statehood as Albania. But a mouse can't play a role of the elephant so other fairy tales about Illyrians who were Slavs and Arber (Arder!) were used too but the problem is still hanging in the air so you stick to the Rus fame and glory - the White Horde.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Please tell me if you know that the equipment for Sarine and Iprite production was made in Albania and delivered via Turkey to Syria ? I just want to know how well western media is feeding you. If you knew about it please give me your "like" - just this one time !

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Sam D

pre 7 godina

It is inconceivable that the Russians would allow Assad to commit this act. They had nothing to gain by the saran gas attack. There is a good possibility that that the gas was stored by someone in a warehouse that was bombed by Syrian pilots and subsequently released into the air causing the horrific fate of the people in the area. The question is who stored the gas in view of the fact that all chemical weapons were removed previously
At any rate the USA is being suckered into another war by manufactured atrocities. Do you remember Racak, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Libya etc
Let's not jump to conclusions yet.

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Prishtina(County of Gollak

pre 7 godina

Americans will never allow anybody to take over ,they are and will be the power of the world forever ,they are only woried about 20000 white syrians ,thats all they are interested in that part of the world ,thats the answer.....

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

Bob and Dwight,


shhhhhhhhhhhhhh - facts only.

Just use your brain - you have it, just use it for facts and not for hate. I don't ask much - and logic can be handy too.

Sorry for spelling errors but you got a point - brain and logic vs. hate and bs - and the winner is???

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

@rote
Russia said that it was planes because they have been filmed by witnesses and tracked by NATO.
It cannot be denied, any other explanation would make Russia a bigger laughing stock than they already are.

Show me this evidence, if it is as fake as the MH17 "evidence", the UN probably put it in the latrines for staff to wipe their asses.

It will take time for all facts to be discovered but you wouldn't know what a "documented fact" was even if it slapped you in the head.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 11:50)

Get yourself educated before posting garbage on here. If you think that Russia and Germany was "allied" over the invasion of Poland, think again. Molotov signed the agreement with Ribbintrop Nazi's to be neutral and delay the inevitable invasion of Russia or operation Barbarossa. England, France et al betrayed Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Greece and the rest of Europe as Nazi Germany rolled across Europe. Nazi Germany was aided by Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Italy, Spain and fascist elements in Ukraine, Croatia, Slovakia, and other European countries eventually declaring war on the US.

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ, 7 April 2017 16:07)

Let me guess . This is got to be rote right? Every time you embarrassed or disappointed you change your name . You are calling me a sucker ha, I'll call you a " excuse machine" full of bs... The empty can makes more noise than the full one. Lol this will have consequences on US ? Hahaha. What you going to do sanctions ? The biggest suckers in the Balkans are the Serbs for listening and believing on you

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rote

pre 7 godina

Even Russia said that it was Syrian planes.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 16:32)

That's true but Russia also said

1/ Syrian planes has bombed the biggest chemical warehouse and plant in Idlib and bombed it several times before they succeded yesterday to destroy the plant.

2/ The full complect of the equipment for producing Sarine and Iprite was bought in Albania and it's well documented fact. It was delivered via Turkey for the Saudi money.

3/ Chemical components were always delivered from Saudistan and it's documented by the Russians too. All evidence was sent to the UN several times ...

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

Albanian Barkman : russia was tested before, 1999 serbia, turkey with the plane and the ambassador , the NATO surrounding your country, now with Syria, etc, etc, so barking all is left for you to do

This last strike will have sequences for the West and for Trump personally. It already has because their myth of the US Army was discredited again - this time online. 23 out of 59 tomahawks costed USD 90 Mln destroyed 6 of the 40-years old Mig-21 that cost less than USD 1 Mln total ! It's a pity that none of the Trump's family members has been killed together with the Syrian civillians. Each time an American President has problems inside America he launches a war to divert attention. So was in Tonkin incident in Viet Nam, twice in Iraq, so was in Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, in Korea, Beirut, Somalia, Panama ect.

Serbs are the only proud people in the region. All others are professional suckers. Your father sucked, you suck and your children will suck too. Because it the only job that they saw in their pagan lives. I guess permanent sucking has already brought you irreversable changes on the genetic level. We will definitely return our Kosovo so you suck in vain. But because you always need someone to suck ask Serbs to let you do your job. Some of them may agree. Then you will tell us the difference between the Serbs and the Yankees. Which of them is sweeter. Good suck!

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(factsonly, 7 April 2017 15:49)

Go post on stormfront, you'll get the help you need there. It's not just your English or your spelling, you can't even find the Caps Lock key but you think that you can tell that the chemical attack was a false flag.
Even Russia said that it was Syrian planes.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

Fake Dwight - PLEASE FACTS ONLY:

What a bamboo jumbo gibberish is this below - maybe not bad English but 100% false:

"I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children."

Russia allied with Nazis - did you know who defeated Nazi Germany.

Maybe your perfect English will say NDH - Croatia and Albania, Bulgaria Italy etc. - Dwight please read more - use your brain to get right information.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

Russia allied with Nazis - did you know who defeated Nazi Germany.
(factsonly, 7 April 2017 16:06)

Yes I know who defeated Nazi Germany and I also know who was allied with who and when.
I realise that your history book may not have any section on 23.08.1939 to 22.06.1941, especially if you live in Russia, so here is a 90 second introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-l9AE0hH8

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

dWIGHT : Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.

In WW2 Russia let like you to be born.
It was a mistake, a very expensive mistake.


Marku, Nothing can stop US or Nato when they decide to move.

Do you think that you are an absolute idiot or is there a hope to pump you out? What idiots will launch a war against Russia switching their final countdown ? NATO is a commercial organization designed to blackmail and beg money ... They can fight only aganst Granada because they loose all other wars you know.


Demi : US is the world leader and thats hope they intervene in Syria to save the innocent civilians there.

No intervention my friend !
Because Putin has forbidden it this morning.
But the tense will increase.
As the old allies are together again.
Those are Al-Qaeda, USA, an-Nusra, EU, Turkey, Israel, Qatar ...


Vojvodina : Hopefully Syrians will be smart enough to never allow that to happen.

Mudak ! How much is your own IQ ? Guess you know what I mean ...


FeZ : To hell with Putin, Asad and others alike!

Hope these two gentlemen will let you pass there first.


Rolandi : Serbs and Russians are no thing more then puppets

of whom ?


david campbell

f-kk you too !


Bob

I am not a specialist in parrots so kindly tell me where are from?
You know I had a green Central Asian parrot like you and he could only sa ГОША ХОРОШИЙ, ХОРОШИЙ ГОША just like you PUTIN IS BAD, BAD IS PUTIN ...

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

Calm down as Putin has introduced a no fly zone for all NATO and US coalition members. Planes may begin to fall today. Be quiet Russia will respond the way that no one expects. Only 1 out of 3 rusty Tomahawks reached the base. What a gift to Rosoboronexport ! It will encourage Russia who has brillintly killed 45 000 terrorists last 18 months. We killed them with pleasure using our old Soviet SU-24 mostly. What if we implement SU-34, SU-35, T-50, MIG-35 ect ? S-300 and S400 Triumph are already activated. So the Americans, Turkas, Jews and other bitches are out of the game. Guess Shoigu is in his office tonight and so is our Head Commander. We urgently need another military base in the Mediterranien. Be it Montenegro, Cyprus, Greece or at least in Croatia that has a too long beach for such a small and bitchy people.

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LOL

pre 7 godina

Good analogy. Yugoslavia and Iraq were also done by the US more for show than results. Both places ended up worse than they did before. Missiles launched achieved little tactical use. Statements made in retaliation against something in the country were for internal consumption only. The presidents involved needed a nice distraction away from scandalous news, and only the dumbest and least intelligent honestly believed true and actual justice was being done. Some of the comments below once again make their own stereotypes.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(factsonly, 7 April 2017 14:25)

This forum is for communicating in English. There is also a Serbian version , You need to find the one for gibberish mumbo jumbo.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

"Perfect" Dwight,

Sorry for grammar - or errors in my English post.

BUT IF I SPEAK WITH ACCENT AND WRITE WITH ERROS,

MY BRAIN WORKS ERROR FREE AND WITHOUT ACCENT.

You can go to the other language and grammar specific sites and feed your English supremacy problems.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

O My God - already seen set-up and screenplay. Like bombing the market in Sarajevo, Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Now bombing and gassing children in Syria.

EVERYBODY - JUST USE YOUR BRAIN AND LOGIC.

"What on the Earth can be the purpose of ASAD DOING THAT at this time. To achieve nothing and provoke US strike." SO CLEARTHROUGH -
THEY NEED SOMETHING AND MADE IT HAPPEN. THEY STARTED IT 6 YEARS BEFORE(NOT ASSAD) AND IT'S TIME TO FINISH IT - TILL THE LAST BUILDING STANDS.


USE JUST BRAIN AND LOGIC - BEFORE BE BIASED AND SENTIMENTAL.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

The CE of B92 forums sj is going to release his/her conclusions of what really happened soon. Since it's the reality that needs to conform to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj and not the other way around, everybody must wait for the explanation of this event by the CE of B92 forums sj. I'm sure his/her explanation would be brilliant, as always :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

(rote, 7 April 2017 11:00)

We will let you do the barking, that's what you always do anyway. russia was tested before, 1999 serbia, turkey with the plane and the ambassador , the NATO surrounding your country, now with Syria, etc, etc, so barking all is left for you to do

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JS

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?

President Trump just ordered a few dozen "clunky old" Tomahawk missiles to be lobbed into Syrian airspace and "state-of-the-art" air defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...

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Demi

pre 7 godina

Bevare of Uncle Sam little Russia. You can bark outside the fence just like Serbia is doing about Kosova. Nobody will ever listen to you! You know why? Because you are on the wrong side when you justifie Milosevic and Assad.

US is the world leader and thats hope they intervene in Syria to save the innocent civilians there.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

It is certainly similar to 1999 in that Russia looked the other way when its ally wanted support. If rumors are true, Russia was notified to remove its citizens from the area and they never told Assad

I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.

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Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Russia doing what they do best. Nothing. So much for deploying S-300.

This war should have been ended years ago and we only got to this point because of the hesitation from the US and Nato. Whoever thought that Russia "the Bear" was flexing muscles forgot that the US and Nato are a natural power.

Nothing can stop US or Nato when they decide to move.

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PEN

pre 7 godina

@Joni:

Probably the best comments I've yet heard on B92. They're all the same. It's the innocent ones who pay the price. All the so-called 'Great Powers' are doing is testing their new weapons systems on flesh and blood. Awful.

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Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

Both interventions were necessary to overthrow an aggressive and violent dictator.

The one against Milosevic had great results, but unfortunately, due to lack of lustration, the same people are now back in power.

Hopefully Syrians will be smart enough to never allow that to happen.

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rote

pre 7 godina

I said it several times here that the development in Syria is very bad. Bastard forces has almost consolidated and began to act as one. Those are the Saudittes, Al Qaeda, USA, Djabhat an-Nusra, Israel, Britain, Free Syrian Army, Turkey, Jordan , EU ect. We may see the Caribean scenario soon when the world will be put on the edge of the catastrophy. Russia has already closed the Syrian air for all non-Russian and non-Syrian planes and missiles. It means that the US coalition's planes killing hundreads in Mosul will be brought down. But Trump is entrapped and his actions are canalized by the globalists. Rothschields can't help him much in America. So he is dangerous for all even for his the Balkan suckers. Unfortunately Russia has only 24 war planes and 12 striking helicopters in Syria now so we'll need a few days to increase our force. Hope Iran will offer us the Hamadan base to increase our striking capacity. Anyways it was a slap at Russia and we have no illusions about the respond to be made. The Tomahawks are digged out and though half of them proved to be rusty the world has changed for worse yesterday. Worse for everybody including Joni and anyone who will bark next.

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david campbell

pre 7 godina

putin and peskov flapping their gums, they are the worst murderers and invaders in the world, and so much for their high-tech rubbish missile defence system, mr trump bomb russia next, make it a car park,

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FeZ

pre 7 godina

Finally!
God bless America and the free world. Hope one day syrian children will grow up in peace!

To hell with Putin, Asad and others alike!

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Rolandi

pre 7 godina

God bless America for standing up to dictators like
Miloseviq and assad and many more to
Come some
Of
You Serbs did celebrate win of USA president and yes he still support
Kosovos independence Serbs and Russians are no thing more then puppets

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Bob

pre 7 godina

Russia lies. It is a known policy. Russia has been over using it and looks pathetic.

Russia has had a chance to put things right is Syria and has failed.

To date Putin looked powerful in Syria, but today he has had to stand aside.

Assad is a dictator who has failed to look after his own people but has instead followed the family tradition of killing to keep power.

It is time for Putin to consider international cooperation and stop his stupid expansionist games.

Yes this is like Yugoslavia and Iraq, it is for the same reason - brutes who need to be stomped on.

Assad has had his time. Putin should stomp on him - and would win respect if he did.

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Joni

pre 7 godina

Russian Senator Oleg Morozov - And what about Russian bombardment in Afghanistan, Ukraina, Chechnya, Ossetia and even in Syria?

Russia failed - US failed - both are sh...t , siting there and seeing those poor children dying like cockroaches. but, go f... yourselves, you and all these m..fckers. The humanity is dead!

You are not credible anymore, none of you!

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FeZ

pre 7 godina

Finally!
God bless America and the free world. Hope one day syrian children will grow up in peace!

To hell with Putin, Asad and others alike!

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Bob

pre 7 godina

Russia lies. It is a known policy. Russia has been over using it and looks pathetic.

Russia has had a chance to put things right is Syria and has failed.

To date Putin looked powerful in Syria, but today he has had to stand aside.

Assad is a dictator who has failed to look after his own people but has instead followed the family tradition of killing to keep power.

It is time for Putin to consider international cooperation and stop his stupid expansionist games.

Yes this is like Yugoslavia and Iraq, it is for the same reason - brutes who need to be stomped on.

Assad has had his time. Putin should stomp on him - and would win respect if he did.

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Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Russia doing what they do best. Nothing. So much for deploying S-300.

This war should have been ended years ago and we only got to this point because of the hesitation from the US and Nato. Whoever thought that Russia "the Bear" was flexing muscles forgot that the US and Nato are a natural power.

Nothing can stop US or Nato when they decide to move.

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Rolandi

pre 7 godina

God bless America for standing up to dictators like
Miloseviq and assad and many more to
Come some
Of
You Serbs did celebrate win of USA president and yes he still support
Kosovos independence Serbs and Russians are no thing more then puppets

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Demi

pre 7 godina

Bevare of Uncle Sam little Russia. You can bark outside the fence just like Serbia is doing about Kosova. Nobody will ever listen to you! You know why? Because you are on the wrong side when you justifie Milosevic and Assad.

US is the world leader and thats hope they intervene in Syria to save the innocent civilians there.

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Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

Both interventions were necessary to overthrow an aggressive and violent dictator.

The one against Milosevic had great results, but unfortunately, due to lack of lustration, the same people are now back in power.

Hopefully Syrians will be smart enough to never allow that to happen.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

It is certainly similar to 1999 in that Russia looked the other way when its ally wanted support. If rumors are true, Russia was notified to remove its citizens from the area and they never told Assad

I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.

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Avni

pre 7 godina

Good job USA. To me it's was funny when Russians talk about the international law. Where was international law whey they invaded Georgia and Ukraine? Where war international law when the bombed hospitals and schools in Syria? We live in 2017, and 100 years ago poison gas was used during the WW1. Now Russia supports a dictator who in 2017 gasses own people. What else can one say?

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JS

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?

President Trump just ordered a few dozen "clunky old" Tomahawk missiles to be lobbed into Syrian airspace and "state-of-the-art" air defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

(rote, 7 April 2017 11:00)

We will let you do the barking, that's what you always do anyway. russia was tested before, 1999 serbia, turkey with the plane and the ambassador , the NATO surrounding your country, now with Syria, etc, etc, so barking all is left for you to do

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Joni

pre 7 godina

Russian Senator Oleg Morozov - And what about Russian bombardment in Afghanistan, Ukraina, Chechnya, Ossetia and even in Syria?

Russia failed - US failed - both are sh...t , siting there and seeing those poor children dying like cockroaches. but, go f... yourselves, you and all these m..fckers. The humanity is dead!

You are not credible anymore, none of you!

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 11:50)

Get yourself educated before posting garbage on here. If you think that Russia and Germany was "allied" over the invasion of Poland, think again. Molotov signed the agreement with Ribbintrop Nazi's to be neutral and delay the inevitable invasion of Russia or operation Barbarossa. England, France et al betrayed Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Greece and the rest of Europe as Nazi Germany rolled across Europe. Nazi Germany was aided by Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Italy, Spain and fascist elements in Ukraine, Croatia, Slovakia, and other European countries eventually declaring war on the US.

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ, 7 April 2017 16:07)

Let me guess . This is got to be rote right? Every time you embarrassed or disappointed you change your name . You are calling me a sucker ha, I'll call you a " excuse machine" full of bs... The empty can makes more noise than the full one. Lol this will have consequences on US ? Hahaha. What you going to do sanctions ? The biggest suckers in the Balkans are the Serbs for listening and believing on you

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david campbell

pre 7 godina

putin and peskov flapping their gums, they are the worst murderers and invaders in the world, and so much for their high-tech rubbish missile defence system, mr trump bomb russia next, make it a car park,

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

O My God - already seen set-up and screenplay. Like bombing the market in Sarajevo, Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Now bombing and gassing children in Syria.

EVERYBODY - JUST USE YOUR BRAIN AND LOGIC.

"What on the Earth can be the purpose of ASAD DOING THAT at this time. To achieve nothing and provoke US strike." SO CLEARTHROUGH -
THEY NEED SOMETHING AND MADE IT HAPPEN. THEY STARTED IT 6 YEARS BEFORE(NOT ASSAD) AND IT'S TIME TO FINISH IT - TILL THE LAST BUILDING STANDS.


USE JUST BRAIN AND LOGIC - BEFORE BE BIASED AND SENTIMENTAL.

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rote

pre 7 godina

I said it several times here that the development in Syria is very bad. Bastard forces has almost consolidated and began to act as one. Those are the Saudittes, Al Qaeda, USA, Djabhat an-Nusra, Israel, Britain, Free Syrian Army, Turkey, Jordan , EU ect. We may see the Caribean scenario soon when the world will be put on the edge of the catastrophy. Russia has already closed the Syrian air for all non-Russian and non-Syrian planes and missiles. It means that the US coalition's planes killing hundreads in Mosul will be brought down. But Trump is entrapped and his actions are canalized by the globalists. Rothschields can't help him much in America. So he is dangerous for all even for his the Balkan suckers. Unfortunately Russia has only 24 war planes and 12 striking helicopters in Syria now so we'll need a few days to increase our force. Hope Iran will offer us the Hamadan base to increase our striking capacity. Anyways it was a slap at Russia and we have no illusions about the respond to be made. The Tomahawks are digged out and though half of them proved to be rusty the world has changed for worse yesterday. Worse for everybody including Joni and anyone who will bark next.

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

Albanian Barkman : russia was tested before, 1999 serbia, turkey with the plane and the ambassador , the NATO surrounding your country, now with Syria, etc, etc, so barking all is left for you to do

This last strike will have sequences for the West and for Trump personally. It already has because their myth of the US Army was discredited again - this time online. 23 out of 59 tomahawks costed USD 90 Mln destroyed 6 of the 40-years old Mig-21 that cost less than USD 1 Mln total ! It's a pity that none of the Trump's family members has been killed together with the Syrian civillians. Each time an American President has problems inside America he launches a war to divert attention. So was in Tonkin incident in Viet Nam, twice in Iraq, so was in Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, in Korea, Beirut, Somalia, Panama ect.

Serbs are the only proud people in the region. All others are professional suckers. Your father sucked, you suck and your children will suck too. Because it the only job that they saw in their pagan lives. I guess permanent sucking has already brought you irreversable changes on the genetic level. We will definitely return our Kosovo so you suck in vain. But because you always need someone to suck ask Serbs to let you do your job. Some of them may agree. Then you will tell us the difference between the Serbs and the Yankees. Which of them is sweeter. Good suck!

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LOL

pre 7 godina

This forum is for communicating in English. There is also a Serbian version , You need to find the one for gibberish mumbo jumbo.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 15:27)

That's what the English site is for, so semi-literate Albanian pizza flippers can use their internet powered by tractors and generators to send off barely comprehensible text written in English as mangled and jarbled as their dental records. The Serbian site's comment section is light years ahead of what gets filtered through here.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(factsonly, 7 April 2017 14:25)

This forum is for communicating in English. There is also a Serbian version , You need to find the one for gibberish mumbo jumbo.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

"Perfect" Dwight,

Sorry for grammar - or errors in my English post.

BUT IF I SPEAK WITH ACCENT AND WRITE WITH ERROS,

MY BRAIN WORKS ERROR FREE AND WITHOUT ACCENT.

You can go to the other language and grammar specific sites and feed your English supremacy problems.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

Fake Dwight - PLEASE FACTS ONLY:

What a bamboo jumbo gibberish is this below - maybe not bad English but 100% false:

"I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children."

Russia allied with Nazis - did you know who defeated Nazi Germany.

Maybe your perfect English will say NDH - Croatia and Albania, Bulgaria Italy etc. - Dwight please read more - use your brain to get right information.

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

Calm down as Putin has introduced a no fly zone for all NATO and US coalition members. Planes may begin to fall today. Be quiet Russia will respond the way that no one expects. Only 1 out of 3 rusty Tomahawks reached the base. What a gift to Rosoboronexport ! It will encourage Russia who has brillintly killed 45 000 terrorists last 18 months. We killed them with pleasure using our old Soviet SU-24 mostly. What if we implement SU-34, SU-35, T-50, MIG-35 ect ? S-300 and S400 Triumph are already activated. So the Americans, Turkas, Jews and other bitches are out of the game. Guess Shoigu is in his office tonight and so is our Head Commander. We urgently need another military base in the Mediterranien. Be it Montenegro, Cyprus, Greece or at least in Croatia that has a too long beach for such a small and bitchy people.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(factsonly, 7 April 2017 15:49)

Go post on stormfront, you'll get the help you need there. It's not just your English or your spelling, you can't even find the Caps Lock key but you think that you can tell that the chemical attack was a false flag.
Even Russia said that it was Syrian planes.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

@rote
Russia said that it was planes because they have been filmed by witnesses and tracked by NATO.
It cannot be denied, any other explanation would make Russia a bigger laughing stock than they already are.

Show me this evidence, if it is as fake as the MH17 "evidence", the UN probably put it in the latrines for staff to wipe their asses.

It will take time for all facts to be discovered but you wouldn't know what a "documented fact" was even if it slapped you in the head.

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Petar

pre 7 godina

This is all a distraction. Does anyone seriously believe Trump all of a sudden cares about "beautiful babies" in Syria? I have doubts that this chemical attack was done by the Assad regime to begin with. Politically why would he launch a chemical attack when Russia is on his side and days earlier Trump revealed he doesn't mind Assad staying in power? This is simply the easiest way for Trump to flex his baby hands and take the attention off of his chaotic administration. His failures with his travel ban and Obamacare repeal and replace are now on the back burner and we can all say "Wow look at President Trump stand up to this dictator. He's such a great leader!" Do not take the bait.

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ, 7 April 2017 19:45)

Every time USA humiliates you russian bs history professor, you change the subject .
You are full of crap, nothing you say it's true, not even the serbs in this site don't believe what you say , NOTHING... We not rus you dummy , Illyrians have nothing with rus you're moron , everything you say is wrong ,

B 92 why rote it's allowed to use "stupid" on his comments, and every time i try it's filtered

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

People use your brain. Where are Iraq's weapons of mass destruction? Where were them? In the bathrooms alla turka of Sadam? This nation of psycopaths just needs a justification for their dirty wars. 1 million lives in Iraq, Iraq, Lybia and Syria completely destroyed. People, civilians are dying like sheep in Yemen and Iraq and trump cries over little babies in Syria? What about millions of little babies you will never see in the news and died you mediocre actor? And you are so worried about Syria that you go playing golf after being so touched from the little babies death? I think they did it, their proxies in Syria or either payed a traitor from Asad's solders to do it. And then bombed Syrians to cover the evidence. Why didnt they wait for an international investigation? And most importantly who are you to decide who deserves to be bombed and who doesnt? Who the hell are you a nation of arrogants and illiterate people who don't even know where Syria and Korea are?

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

Russia allied with Nazis - did you know who defeated Nazi Germany.
(factsonly, 7 April 2017 16:06)

Yes I know who defeated Nazi Germany and I also know who was allied with who and when.
I realise that your history book may not have any section on 23.08.1939 to 22.06.1941, especially if you live in Russia, so here is a 90 second introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-l9AE0hH8

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

The CE of B92 forums sj is going to release his/her conclusions of what really happened soon. Since it's the reality that needs to conform to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj and not the other way around, everybody must wait for the explanation of this event by the CE of B92 forums sj. I'm sure his/her explanation would be brilliant, as always :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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LOL

pre 7 godina

Good analogy. Yugoslavia and Iraq were also done by the US more for show than results. Both places ended up worse than they did before. Missiles launched achieved little tactical use. Statements made in retaliation against something in the country were for internal consumption only. The presidents involved needed a nice distraction away from scandalous news, and only the dumbest and least intelligent honestly believed true and actual justice was being done. Some of the comments below once again make their own stereotypes.

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Sam D

pre 7 godina

It is inconceivable that the Russians would allow Assad to commit this act. They had nothing to gain by the saran gas attack. There is a good possibility that that the gas was stored by someone in a warehouse that was bombed by Syrian pilots and subsequently released into the air causing the horrific fate of the people in the area. The question is who stored the gas in view of the fact that all chemical weapons were removed previously
At any rate the USA is being suckered into another war by manufactured atrocities. Do you remember Racak, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Libya etc
Let's not jump to conclusions yet.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

I have one question for the dhiaspora members both serbs and albanians who dedicated poems to trump when this piece of sh*t colour orange won: is it true that this psychopath with the charm of drunken elephant said in an interview that his wife that stupid escort from slovenia doesn't make farts at all? Now what else can be said? Very low level but it,looks like he represents the average american unfortunately.

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Navi

pre 7 godina

The airfield that was bombed by US forces yesterday was used by Syrian jets to launch attacks against insurgents just now. So much for American involvement saving the day.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/warplanes-from-syrian-base-hit-by-us-just-carried-out-airstrikes-in-homs/

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PEN

pre 7 godina

@Joni:

Probably the best comments I've yet heard on B92. They're all the same. It's the innocent ones who pay the price. All the so-called 'Great Powers' are doing is testing their new weapons systems on flesh and blood. Awful.

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Prishtina(County of Gollak

pre 7 godina

Americans will never allow anybody to take over ,they are and will be the power of the world forever ,they are only woried about 20000 white syrians ,thats all they are interested in that part of the world ,thats the answer.....

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

Albanian American: Let me guess. This is got to be rote right?

Let me guess you are the stupidest of the Shqiptars here right ? Who else would write in Russian here when even the Serbian alphabet has no letters Ц, Щ, Й ? b92 does not let me words like idiot, bastard, mulle c*nt's son so I'll simply say that I am the main Albanian here and my ancestors gave name to all the Albanias worldwide, including state Albany, USA.

Be ready to hear that you had no name before 19 century as you were part of 3 different Ottoman nations (milliets) and maybe you were differed with words like Ghegi, Toski, Arnauti and Arbereshi. When Greeks and Serbs started to split away you faced the problem of self identification. Because you belonged to milliet- Muslim, milliet-i Rum (Orthodox) and milliet-i Katolik at the time. The only thing that united you was close dialects. You spoke rather clear for one another and that's why you called yourself Plain Speaking = Shqiptare.

Thus the region inhabited by you was called Shqipperia and it a well documented fact. But the masters of Europe needed to hide the truth about the famous Albanians so they called this small tribe that had never enjoyed it own statehood as Albania. But a mouse can't play a role of the elephant so other fairy tales about Illyrians who were Slavs and Arber (Arder!) were used too but the problem is still hanging in the air so you stick to the Rus fame and glory - the White Horde.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

Molotov signed the agreement with Ribbintrop Nazi's to be neutral.
(Jugoslavija, 7 April 2017 17:21)
You should do stand up in a comedy club.
The agreement was not signed to delay any inevitable war. It was a specific agreement that Russia would not defend enemies of Germany including Yugoslavia.
It divided eastern European countries among the two powers allowing Germany to attack eastern Europe and the Balkans, and allowing Stalin to attack Eastern Europe and Asia.

Stalin invaded Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Poland to be neutral?
When UK declared war on Germany for attacking Poland, Stalin attacked Poland!
Hitler no longer had to worry about protecting the Eastern Front and he could then wage war freely knowing Russia would not defend Yugoslavia or anywhere else.
The agreement was not signed to delay an inevitable war. Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
I can only think that your biased revisionism is based on your man-love for Putin or NATO 1999 because it has no basis in facts.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Rote Maybe you're also playing golf this weekend but I'm still thinking about the sultanate of Misir! So strange that Egypt and Cairo have always been known as Misir in the Balkans, we always referred to Misir. What a surprise has been for me to discover that Misir is not a wonderland somewhere near Nil but it is what Egypt is called today from his own people. Also you're right on the turkic language being a relatively new language and the same turkic nation.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

Rote 2 Speaking of Misir I was searching for an old folk song "Mora rrugen per Misir" (I headed to Misir) and I found out that during communist era they replaced Misir with Janina, Ioannina. Here is the song though performed by legendary clarinet maestro Laver Bariu. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyk76k_laver-bariu-mora-rrugen-per-janine_music. If you like folk music here is a famous albanian song performed in a scene from Gjeneral Gramofoni film released in 1978. A group of albanians playing folk music during the fascist occupation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm-wCT4nboA It is such a beautiful tosk song "Te rrapi ne Mashkullore" but Im not good at translating folklor songs. I asked my daughter who speaks american english better that Maxine Waters but she said you must be a tosk to understand this song and I am a geg! If Victory 99 helps me I will be very grateful.

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

dWIGHT : Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.

In WW2 Russia let like you to be born.
It was a mistake, a very expensive mistake.


Marku, Nothing can stop US or Nato when they decide to move.

Do you think that you are an absolute idiot or is there a hope to pump you out? What idiots will launch a war against Russia switching their final countdown ? NATO is a commercial organization designed to blackmail and beg money ... They can fight only aganst Granada because they loose all other wars you know.


Demi : US is the world leader and thats hope they intervene in Syria to save the innocent civilians there.

No intervention my friend !
Because Putin has forbidden it this morning.
But the tense will increase.
As the old allies are together again.
Those are Al-Qaeda, USA, an-Nusra, EU, Turkey, Israel, Qatar ...


Vojvodina : Hopefully Syrians will be smart enough to never allow that to happen.

Mudak ! How much is your own IQ ? Guess you know what I mean ...


FeZ : To hell with Putin, Asad and others alike!

Hope these two gentlemen will let you pass there first.


Rolandi : Serbs and Russians are no thing more then puppets

of whom ?


david campbell

f-kk you too !


Bob

I am not a specialist in parrots so kindly tell me where are from?
You know I had a green Central Asian parrot like you and he could only sa ГОША ХОРОШИЙ, ХОРОШИЙ ГОША just like you PUTIN IS BAD, BAD IS PUTIN ...

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rote

pre 7 godina

Even Russia said that it was Syrian planes.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 16:32)

That's true but Russia also said

1/ Syrian planes has bombed the biggest chemical warehouse and plant in Idlib and bombed it several times before they succeded yesterday to destroy the plant.

2/ The full complect of the equipment for producing Sarine and Iprite was bought in Albania and it's well documented fact. It was delivered via Turkey for the Saudi money.

3/ Chemical components were always delivered from Saudistan and it's documented by the Russians too. All evidence was sent to the UN several times ...

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

Bob and Dwight,


shhhhhhhhhhhhhh - facts only.

Just use your brain - you have it, just use it for facts and not for hate. I don't ask much - and logic can be handy too.

Sorry for spelling errors but you got a point - brain and logic vs. hate and bs - and the winner is???

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Free

pre 7 godina

In ex-Yugoslavia the case was clear: a psycopath using army for genocide and ethnic cleansing. NATO bombed only military and strategic targets. There were casualities, both Serbian and Albanian but they were in small numbers, and those bombings saved million of lives.

In Iraq it was a psycopath who bombed the whole country to the ground to remove another psycopath from power and as a result millions of lives were/are ruined.

In Syria are a bunch of psycopaths, Syrian, Russian, American, Turkish etc who are really massacrating the whole Syria.

God forbid you become Trump`s enemy, Putin`s friend and Erdogan`s neighbour.

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rote

pre 7 godina

The Brits appointed the Saudittes to rule the region and it was the first time that local tribes got an access to Mecca! Mamelukes took a very active part in wars against the Protestants in Europe. It lasted for decades in late 16 and in 17 centuries when they helped the Catholic Church and the House of Medici and and Gerzog Alba and Phillip II of Spain. Even in 19 century they still spoke Russian and Tatar languages. They called themselves PEOPLE while Arabs were like beasts for them. And even in central Turkey where they settled after 1811 local peoples accepted them like Gods. You know that Kabarda and Ossetian Mamelukes went to the ME as Orthodox and returned as Othodox Cristians but in late 19 century after 101 years of wars against Russia greater part of the Kabarda people had to run to Turkey where 5 millions of them live now against 500 000 in Russia. But after 1826 the Ottomans became absolute Muslims so they put a condition that they could accept the refugees only as Muslims. Kabarda peoples are called Cherkess in Turkey but it's a mistake. Their ethnonim is Adiga while Cherkess were pure Russians. Word Cabardes can also be found on map of France ...

We know too little about our past otherwise there would be not so much confrontation I think. Shqiptare footprints may be found even in the Far East on Aleut Islands bcause the hordes were sent to all parts of the empire. Very ofthen they stayed there forever ...

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Rote Which ethnicity do you think Mamelukes belonged to? We have Arta as a name for women and Artan for men. Also I found these on the despotate of Arta and the Gulf of Arta. Why do you think that nobody wants to know more on the things you write on? Maybe balkans people are just striving to survive as always and these trips into the past that you offer to the publuc are just a luxury many cant afford. Many of us strive to have an almost normal life, many dont have one, others never had one, others are loose fighters of dead empires.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despotate_of_Arta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambracian_Gulf

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

You must be an Albanian pizza flipper then since your comment above perfectly fits the way you described them lol
(icj1, 8 April 2017 16:12)

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icj1, the CB of B92, has the boys from Python rolling with laughter. Our resident bigot, icj1, failed basic English grammar. Recently, icj1 went to extraordinary effort to prove (s)he doesn't know the rules governing the use of lower case or upper case letters. With each daily post, the CB of B92, continues to prove that idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

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rote

pre 7 godina

Please tell me if you know that the equipment for Sarine and Iprite production was made in Albania and delivered via Turkey to Syria ? I just want to know how well western media is feeding you. If you knew about it please give me your "like" - just this one time !
(rote, 7 April 2017 19:54) # Comment link
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So most of you heard nothing about the Albanian equipment producing chemical arms in Syria. It's a 2 year old story. Albanian made equipment was found of very low quality but the jihadis have no better supplier so they use it all over Syria and Iraq. Many times the shells and mines were shown over the TV. But the last show of the White Helmets was fake as everything they do. In Idlib they shooted a film where Sarine is handled even without gloves and respirators. If it were for real all would be as good as deads. Last night Al Jazeera showed mines with Sarine found in Mosul. The jihadis used them a couple of days ago but nobody sent there the Tomahawks. Because their problem is Assad but not Al Qaeda. All that chemical weapons is made on Albanian machines of the Saudi chemical components. Russian reporters showed the mines and shells many times during our Aleppo operation. All international organizations were informed but they stay silent ... Everything is also available in U-Tube. The equipment was delivered via Turkey and deployed in Idlib province controlled by the Turks.

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sj

pre 7 godina

This chemical attack is a tad too convenient for me so it was the rebels, who are losing on all fronts, thought they would get a full scale response from the US and provide some relief and turn the tide for them.
Or even the US could have organised this so they could justify any actions and improve Trump's standings. I cant for the life of me see what gain Assad would get in dropping these chemical weapons since he is wining on all fronts.

The US response was weird to say the least. They unleashed $69 million worth of Cruise Missiles and they only hit old and empty bunkers on one side of the airfield but the two main runways and buildings still in use were not touched. And it now has come out that Moscow was advised of US intentions well in advance. Very strange.

This is one of the better articles covering this story http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/04/donald-trumps-symbolic-strike-syria-170407122029617.html

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu : @ Rote Which ethnicity do you think Mamelukes belonged to? We have Arta as a name for women and Artan for men.

It's a good question. According to Fomenko the main force of the Mamelukes was composed of the Great Princes Cherkasskie from Donbass region. Next came the Adiga and Ossetians from northern Caucasusus. By mistake the Caucasians are called Cherkess now but none of the several Adiga peoples nor the Ossetians nor the Chechens nor any other Caucasians agrees to be Cherkess. Each of them has a name of their own. So after the Goden Horde was destroyed in 1380 the Great khan/kniaz Dmitry I Donskoy moved his religious capitol back to Jerusalem. He took there his Greek Patriarch and since then ruled the empire from Tsargrad. In Turkish chronicles he entered as Murat I while in European ones he is Constantine I. It sounds strange only untill you begin to correlate the dates. Then everything becomes plain ald logical. In 1389 Khan Dmity aka Murat was killed on Kosovo field while Constantine lived much earlier as we are told. The truth is that there's a shift of the dates in European history equal to 1152 years and in Greek history about 1800 years and in Byzantine about 330 years. Now if you add 1152 years to the official date of death of Cinstantine I (337) you'll find yourself on the same Kosovo field of 1389. To say nothing that Constantine sounds very much of a Con Stan = Han's Place and Constantinopole = Con Stan Pole.

see part-2

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
(Dwight, 8 April 2017 15:50) # Comment link

That't not true, Stalin signed the agreement to buy time, they were never a"allies" a falsehood taught by some historians. If you really want to educated yourself, read the rise and fall of the Third Reich by William Shafer who was in the Nazi government and the book is based on factual documents comprised of diaries diaries of German Generals , Stalin , Molotov, Galeazzo Ciano and others. Hitler in Mein Kemp specifically talks about Lebensraum and to eliminate the lower class Slavs and break Russia.
https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-History/dp/1451651686

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 5

Initially the Mamelukes were of Slavic and North Caucasian origyn. But after 1517 when Mist Sultanate was submitted to the Ottomans (Atamans) things Balkan peoples including the non-Slavic were involved to rule the vast African (Afri Can) Asian lands. Be careful when it comes to word Albanian because the Mamelukes and the Ottomans were both Albanians aka Beli aka Ak aka Whites. Libya, Lebanon, Baalbek and many other words pointed at it. Even the sea near Lybia was marked on maps as White Sea. So was Morocco (More Aka) = Sea of the White and many other toponymals on the shore and deep inside the continent. Tunisia = Tanais = Tan Asia = Dona Asia. Sudan is composed of two words (Su and Dan) meaning the same (River, Water) in Turkic and Rus languages. 80% of the MAIN toponymals in Africa still have Slavic or Turkic/Tatar roots. Those are the main rivers, mountains, places and Arda-Orda-Arta is one of such markers. So it's not strange that you have them like male and female names. If you take name Anna and enter Wikipedia you will soon find it Hanna oryginal and so are the famous Canaans no matter how they explain it. Balkan peoples was one for centuries and that's why they had no conflicts before 19 century. So I get upset when we talk about some Croats Kings, Albanian leagues, Serbian Zhupans and other imagionary ghosts. The truth is written in our genomes, maps and other places. But we avoid to see it not to look traitors in our current conflicts.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

The link you gave about Arta directly points at Octavianus Augustus whom the Rjurikovici considered their ancestor. The always mentioned only this name as the start of their dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebOVJAqDL6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQaaeLvaOGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrXrarhUn0

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

see how Europeans painted Rus Khans/Cams/Chammes in Siberia, China, Asia and America - you don't need to understand Russian to find that something is wrong in our history especially when it comes to Gengis Khan ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOdNvsN4zs

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rote

pre 7 godina

Please tell me if you know that the equipment for Sarine and Iprite production was made in Albania and delivered via Turkey to Syria ? I just want to know how well western media is feeding you. If you knew about it please give me your "like" - just this one time !

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rote

pre 7 godina

intersting is that Pentagon (5-th Han) attacked Syria (Sur = Rus) from war ships Ross (Fort Ross) and Porta (P-Orta) where all words have Russian roots ...

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rote

pre 7 godina

@rote Russia said that it was planes because they have been filmed by witnesses and tracked by NATO. It cannot be denied, any other explanation would make Russia a bigger laughing stock than they already are. Show me this evidence, if it is as fake as the MH17 "evidence", the UN probably put it in the latrines for staff to wipe their asses. It will take time for all facts to be discovered but you wouldn't know what a "documented fact" was even if it slapped you in the head.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 17:44)

The stick in your ass prevents you from thinking. Please pull it out next time you enrich b92 forum with your comments. Russia does not defend all territory of Syria. Our missiles defend the zone around our two bases there. But I think that after the US provocation Putin will respond soon. Maybe not in Syria ... As for MH-17 it was brought down together by Ukraine and Hollande and the USA. From the first minutes it was found our people in Donbass said that some of the bodies were old deads and no blood was coming out of them ...

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icj1

pre 7 godina

That's what the English site is for, so semi-literate Albanian pizza flippers can use their internet powered by tractors and generators to send off barely comprehensible text written in English as mangled and jarbled as their dental records. The Serbian site's comment section is light years ahead of what gets filtered through here.
(LOL, 7 April 2017 20:20)

You must be an Albanian pizza flipper then since your comment above perfectly fits the way you described them lol

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 2

Because both were submitted to it. But part of the Mamelukes returned home in early 1517. Those were Great Kbiazes Cherkasskie (Voisko Donskoe), Kabarda and Ossetian people of Caucasus. They arrived like Tsars but not like refugees. They had high and swift horses that nobody had ever seen on the Caucasus and they drove them like no one coud. Their dress and arms changed too since they abandoned Caucasus in 1382. More than that they came here with thousands of their slaves and it became a big problem of Russia when slavery was abolished here in 1861. In Kabarda it took about 20-30 years because slavery became their national tradition and their women did not know how to do many things. By the way Kabarda means Kaaba Orda because they guarded Kaaba and Medina (Медынь) since 1382 till 1516 never letting Arabs inside. It was Burdji Dynasty called after the castle in Misr (Cairo). After Selim I destroyed the Mamelukes he appointed them to rule the same lands that included half Africa + Hijjaz + Syria + Iraq + what is called Palestine now. It looks strange from current viewing of the history as Selim became Calif of all the Muslims while the Mamelukes remained Orthodox Christians. So Hidjaz with Mecca and Medina was ruled by the Christians till 1811 when the Brits invited 800 most powerful Mamelukes to Cairo and massacred them. Other Mamelukes had to abandon Misr for Anatolia.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu : during communist era they replaced Misir with Janina, Ioannina.

They changed words all the time before, during and after the communists and it happened all over the earth. Each king or president had his own resons to improve the past. That's why we fell into idiotism discussin what was first egg or chicken, who settled here or there first ect. They change only one letter and it changes the whole idea. Replace a letter in Ken Turky chicken (turkey) and you receive Kentukky Chicken or California instead of Calif Orda, Canada instead of Can Arda or America instead of Amer-i Can ect.ect. And it happens all over the earth be it Okeania (Ak-e Hania) , Confucius ( Con Fuji) in China or Fuji Hama in Japan. Out of 5 Portlands (P--Orta Land) in America 2 has no acces to any water ect. ect. It's all the same in Latin America, New Zeeland ect. In one case they write Awkland in the other it's Oakland and nobody sees that in both cases we deal with Ak Land = land of the Whites/Beli/Ak/Albabians ... So your communists were innocent childs changing a couple words only. They had no intention to change the whole history and they besides didn't spoil the song.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu
part 2

Kniaz Dmitry launched a big invasion to Misr in 1382 and I can explain why coz after the Golden Horde was destroyed it followers still sticked to the old pagan version of Christianity while Dmitry/ Constantine advertised the Apostolic one. So he had to do something about it to cement the Empire. ME was a vital region so the first hordes were sent there. Those were heavy cavalry troops that no one could resist. Even after 200 years the Mameluke cavalry remained the best. But since 1250 other Rus Hordes were already deployed in the region. They are called Kurds (K-orda) now.

It was then that the Kaaba stone was delivered to Mecca and other saint things were transported to that far away province. Pyramides were built under the survey of the Mamelukes to keep the gold of the Empire. But in 16 century it was transported to Tobolsk, Siberia.

Very important mission of the Mamelukes was to guard the Imperial Cemetery in Geeze (Kazak) Valley where all the ancestors of the Rus Khans and the Byzantine Emperors were burried as Pharaohs. It was a Rus word written as ПХРН (ПОХОРОН) + NAME. The last Pharaoh was burried 7 years before Napoleon digged him out. Dead bodies were brought here from all over the world and the Mamelukes were put here to guard them.

Copt people were sent here from Astrakhan Region to take care and pray for the dead Khans. They had no language problems with the Mamelukes who refused to speak Arabiab for centuries.

see part 3

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

part 3

As I wrote it above in 1380 the Great Khan Dmirty I Donskoy moved to Tsargrad and called it Constantinpole (Con Stan Tin Pole) where Tin could mean Tanais now Azov city. Central district was called Halk-i Don = People of Don (River). Another date to remember is 1382 when Dmitry sent his Mamelukes to Misr. It's very important to keep them in mind because in 15 century relations between the descendants of Prince Dmitry and his son Vasily I (Bayased I) and the Khans who stayed in mainland Rus began to worsen. In 1445 Greek Patriarch abandoned Veliki Novgorod for Tsargrad. Formal direct descendant of Dmitry I ect was young Constantine IX in Tsargrad but de facto the empire was ruled from Veliki Novgorod by other Rjurikovici who believed that their relatives in Tsargrad had lost their Hordian spirit and traditions. It could not last long as it threatened the whole Empire so preparation for the war was started. Meanwhile the Mamelukes were the main land force of the Rjurikovici in Tsargrad but they were too far from the potential battlefield and of course they could not withstand the Great Horde. Then in 1453 the Great Horde led by Mehmet II concentrated in Macedonia. They brought fleet but the Golden Horn was closed with a big chain so the ships were moved (volokom) through the surphase. It was a traditional Rus way to move ships between rivers. Constantine IX died in the battle and Mehmet II (Michail Tverskoy) seized the city.

see part 4

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu - 4

He called it Stan Bulgar because the hordes came from Volga (Belga, Bulgar) River. Now they became neighbors to the Mamelukes who controlled Iraq, Syria, Palestine and Africa (Afri Can). Mamelukes collected taxes and guarded the saint places. Yet conflicts happened like the Battle of Angora (Han Gora) that is capitol of Turkey now. It happened not in 1402 like we are told but in late 15 century while Tamerlane was one of the names of Mehmet II. Mamelukes were strong enough to defeat the Osmans (Rosmans) 2-3 times. So Selim I launched a war in 1516 defeating the Mamelukes on the Dabiq Field near Aleppo. He had an advantage of 50 copper cannons while the Mamelukes relied on their best heavy cavalry. Sultan Cansava (Can Sava) was killed and his nephew Tumen Bey failed to collect new horde. What happened next was surprising. Selim I (Father of Suleiman) called himself Calif i.e. head of the military, civil and church powers worldwide. Just like once Bati Khan (Vatican) had done ! Half of the Mamelukes refused to obey him and returned to north Caucasus in early 1517. Those were Kabarda (Kaaba Orda) Adigs and the Ossetians. Cherkassy Princes take roots from Astrakhan but their initial roots were in Ukraine. They were dissolved fast among their people and left no trace after 18 century. But Kabarda people lead their chronolgy since Inal Svetly ___ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Inal while I found 3 Ossetian Mameluke Amirs only.

see part 5

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rote

pre 7 godina

There is a good possibility that that the gas was stored by someone in a warehouse that was bombed by Syrian pilots and subsequently released into the air causing the horrific fate of the people in the area.
(Sam D, 7 April 2017 19:39)

Warships Ross and Porta moved from Gibraltar and Spain towards the Creete Island 1 and 2 days earlier than the gas appeared. It means a coordination of An-Nusra and the USA as it had always happened in the past. Another sample is a sumultanious missile strike and the land attack of Al Qaeda here. To say nothing that altogether it diverts attention frome barbaric bombardments of Mosul where humanitarian catastrophe is 10 times wordse that the one in Aleppo when Russia released the city. America is a bastard state ruled by a dozen of banking houses who hate the mankind.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Politically why would he launch a chemical attack
(Petar, 7 April 2017 22:53)

You provided the answer to that questions.... "Russia is on his side and days earlier Trump revealed he doesn't mind Assad staying in power" (Petar, 7 April 2017 22:53)

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АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

B 92 why rote it's allowed to use "stupid" on his comments, and every time i try it's filtered
(Albanian American, 8 April 2017 01:10)

American Albanian sounds as ridiculous as Hebrew SS. Most natural word to accompany Albanian is word Rus, not even Russian. Illyrians were a Slavic tribe so ask yourself ancesrors other than ours. Why don't you like my version of the Shqiptare who came together in early 19 century? In a way I don't mind you call yourself Albanians and use our coat of arms, Skenderbeu legends, The Albanian League ect.

Shqiptars could be in our American hordes but they could only be submitted to the Slavs. It was a caste society where the Rjuricovici and their branches ruled only. Such as Nemanici, Medici, Izjaslavic Turovskie, Monomahici, Svjatoslavici ect. Even Tamerlanane could not head a horde because only his wife was a Rjurikovici ... So he remained an Amir only. But the Ottoman Padishahs (Sultans) were all Rjuricovici, unlike the Prussian Romanovs (aka Sobakini-Jurjevi) ...

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 1

Balkans weren't a colony of the Ottomans but their metropoly. So after the Dabiq Battle of 1516 when Misr was destroyed many people from the peninsula were sent to Africa and other former Misr provinces. If you could see the map under the same angle as I do you would find lots of interesting things that never occured to you. Main toponimals there are still of Rus/Slavic or Tatar/Turkic orygin.

I remember that I've promiced you ORDA/ ARTA/ URDU/ ORDO/ RADA/ RAT words. But it's so annoying to filter them out. Besides I begin to think that maybe the unfiltered mix of mine would show a better pictire all over the world. Say the Nile River that you have mentioned is reflected in the names of all Europeans but who could have an access to the region except the Great Horde? And so is the Serbian word Nilski Kon (Nile Horse) for Hypopotam. How could they know about it unless they saw it by themselves?

Same with the river itself. There were two Niles the Blue and the White one. Half of the river was named White Nile after the White Horde (the main) and the other was Blue Nile after the Blue Horde in Ukraine. When the Golden Horde was destroyed in 1380 the Blue Horde submitted to the White and the empire was consolidated again. Ottoman Padishahs called Sultans later were a branch of the Rjurikovici but the Blue Horde belonged to them. So after Misr was defeated in 1516 the Great Horde remained indifferent.

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The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Some of the comments below once again make their own stereotypes.
(LOL, 7 April 2017 15:28)


LOL,
As do your comments. Conspiracy theories live and die on b92.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(Jugoslavija, 10 April 2017 18:22)
Hitler always had an idea to attack Russia, but any attempt explain Stalin's pact with Hitler and the subsequent invasion of neighboring countries as a ruse to get time is a joke.

Stalin did not remain neutral and it was an alliance .
If he wanted to stall for time he would have stayed out of Poland allowing them to fight Germany. The invasion of Poland was a joint operation with co-ordination between the 2 attacking countries
Russia provided materials that Germany needed to support its war.

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sj

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?

President Trump just ordered a few dozen "clunky old" Tomahawk missiles to be lobbed into Syrian airspace and "state-of-the-art" air defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

That means if the Russians could not stop those missiles then we can expect the US to take over Syria in the next couple of days then LOL.

So they spent about $69 million and the only thing they targeted was on one side of the airfield which had no infrastructure apart from some old aircraft bunkers, which were not even destroyed, while the two main runways plus buildings on the other side of the field and still in use remained untouched.

Does this possibly tell you something? Maybe and just maybe the idea was not to destroy anything but mainly for domestic consumption. By the way the Russians were told well beforehand that this was happening.

Its bozos like you that believe everything TV tell you. Ask CNN or Fox when the US intends to take over Syria. This week or next? If you were living in the Artic they could sell you a refrigerator.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Russia provided materials that Germany needed to support its war.
(Dwight, 11 April 2017 11:09)

The US also provided more materials to the Nazi's than the Russians did. What is the main reason the Nazi's attacked Russia? Its the oil fields in Azerbaijan as the Ploesti fields in Romania were not enough to supply the panzer divisions. Russia was prepared and ready to completely blow up the oil and gas facilities but the Nazi's were stopped in Leningrad.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
(Dwight, 8 April 2017 15:50)

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started. His paranoia convinced him that all rumors about the German imminent attack were staged by the British in order to get the Soviet Union into war with Germany. Millions of soviet soldiers died because of Stalin's incompetence and paranoia who brought the Soviet Union to the brink of collapse both economically and militarily, only to be saved by the American industrial might.

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2017 11:51)

Wow you are so smart, omg you are genius, you are the smartest . Look at your name , something that doesn't exist. O M G

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started.
(icj1, 12 April 2017 03:57)

I suggest you read a real book, not comic books. A few hours before the attack!!! Stalin was not as stupid as you.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started.
(icj1, 12 April 2017 03:57)

I suggest you read a real book, not comic books. A few hours before the attack!!!
(Jugoslavija, 13 April 2017 18:28)

Yup, Stalin issuing the order to put the Soviet armed forces on alert a few hrs before the attack was almost comical since it's likely that that order did not even manage to reach the units at the front lines before the attack actually started. No wonder the Germans caught the Soviet armed forces by total surprise and millions of Soviet soldiers were captured or killed because of Stalin's paranoia and incompetence.

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FeZ

pre 7 godina

Finally!
God bless America and the free world. Hope one day syrian children will grow up in peace!

To hell with Putin, Asad and others alike!

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Vojvodina

pre 7 godina

Both interventions were necessary to overthrow an aggressive and violent dictator.

The one against Milosevic had great results, but unfortunately, due to lack of lustration, the same people are now back in power.

Hopefully Syrians will be smart enough to never allow that to happen.

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Rolandi

pre 7 godina

God bless America for standing up to dictators like
Miloseviq and assad and many more to
Come some
Of
You Serbs did celebrate win of USA president and yes he still support
Kosovos independence Serbs and Russians are no thing more then puppets

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rote

pre 7 godina

Please tell me if you know that the equipment for Sarine and Iprite production was made in Albania and delivered via Turkey to Syria ? I just want to know how well western media is feeding you. If you knew about it please give me your "like" - just this one time !

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Bob

pre 7 godina

Russia lies. It is a known policy. Russia has been over using it and looks pathetic.

Russia has had a chance to put things right is Syria and has failed.

To date Putin looked powerful in Syria, but today he has had to stand aside.

Assad is a dictator who has failed to look after his own people but has instead followed the family tradition of killing to keep power.

It is time for Putin to consider international cooperation and stop his stupid expansionist games.

Yes this is like Yugoslavia and Iraq, it is for the same reason - brutes who need to be stomped on.

Assad has had his time. Putin should stomp on him - and would win respect if he did.

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david campbell

pre 7 godina

putin and peskov flapping their gums, they are the worst murderers and invaders in the world, and so much for their high-tech rubbish missile defence system, mr trump bomb russia next, make it a car park,

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rote

pre 7 godina

I said it several times here that the development in Syria is very bad. Bastard forces has almost consolidated and began to act as one. Those are the Saudittes, Al Qaeda, USA, Djabhat an-Nusra, Israel, Britain, Free Syrian Army, Turkey, Jordan , EU ect. We may see the Caribean scenario soon when the world will be put on the edge of the catastrophy. Russia has already closed the Syrian air for all non-Russian and non-Syrian planes and missiles. It means that the US coalition's planes killing hundreads in Mosul will be brought down. But Trump is entrapped and his actions are canalized by the globalists. Rothschields can't help him much in America. So he is dangerous for all even for his the Balkan suckers. Unfortunately Russia has only 24 war planes and 12 striking helicopters in Syria now so we'll need a few days to increase our force. Hope Iran will offer us the Hamadan base to increase our striking capacity. Anyways it was a slap at Russia and we have no illusions about the respond to be made. The Tomahawks are digged out and though half of them proved to be rusty the world has changed for worse yesterday. Worse for everybody including Joni and anyone who will bark next.

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Demi

pre 7 godina

Bevare of Uncle Sam little Russia. You can bark outside the fence just like Serbia is doing about Kosova. Nobody will ever listen to you! You know why? Because you are on the wrong side when you justifie Milosevic and Assad.

US is the world leader and thats hope they intervene in Syria to save the innocent civilians there.

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

Albanian Barkman : russia was tested before, 1999 serbia, turkey with the plane and the ambassador , the NATO surrounding your country, now with Syria, etc, etc, so barking all is left for you to do

This last strike will have sequences for the West and for Trump personally. It already has because their myth of the US Army was discredited again - this time online. 23 out of 59 tomahawks costed USD 90 Mln destroyed 6 of the 40-years old Mig-21 that cost less than USD 1 Mln total ! It's a pity that none of the Trump's family members has been killed together with the Syrian civillians. Each time an American President has problems inside America he launches a war to divert attention. So was in Tonkin incident in Viet Nam, twice in Iraq, so was in Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, in Korea, Beirut, Somalia, Panama ect.

Serbs are the only proud people in the region. All others are professional suckers. Your father sucked, you suck and your children will suck too. Because it the only job that they saw in their pagan lives. I guess permanent sucking has already brought you irreversable changes on the genetic level. We will definitely return our Kosovo so you suck in vain. But because you always need someone to suck ask Serbs to let you do your job. Some of them may agree. Then you will tell us the difference between the Serbs and the Yankees. Which of them is sweeter. Good suck!

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rote

pre 7 godina

intersting is that Pentagon (5-th Han) attacked Syria (Sur = Rus) from war ships Ross (Fort Ross) and Porta (P-Orta) where all words have Russian roots ...

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

Calm down as Putin has introduced a no fly zone for all NATO and US coalition members. Planes may begin to fall today. Be quiet Russia will respond the way that no one expects. Only 1 out of 3 rusty Tomahawks reached the base. What a gift to Rosoboronexport ! It will encourage Russia who has brillintly killed 45 000 terrorists last 18 months. We killed them with pleasure using our old Soviet SU-24 mostly. What if we implement SU-34, SU-35, T-50, MIG-35 ect ? S-300 and S400 Triumph are already activated. So the Americans, Turkas, Jews and other bitches are out of the game. Guess Shoigu is in his office tonight and so is our Head Commander. We urgently need another military base in the Mediterranien. Be it Montenegro, Cyprus, Greece or at least in Croatia that has a too long beach for such a small and bitchy people.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Even Russia said that it was Syrian planes.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 16:32)

That's true but Russia also said

1/ Syrian planes has bombed the biggest chemical warehouse and plant in Idlib and bombed it several times before they succeded yesterday to destroy the plant.

2/ The full complect of the equipment for producing Sarine and Iprite was bought in Albania and it's well documented fact. It was delivered via Turkey for the Saudi money.

3/ Chemical components were always delivered from Saudistan and it's documented by the Russians too. All evidence was sent to the UN several times ...

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

Albanian American: Let me guess. This is got to be rote right?

Let me guess you are the stupidest of the Shqiptars here right ? Who else would write in Russian here when even the Serbian alphabet has no letters Ц, Щ, Й ? b92 does not let me words like idiot, bastard, mulle c*nt's son so I'll simply say that I am the main Albanian here and my ancestors gave name to all the Albanias worldwide, including state Albany, USA.

Be ready to hear that you had no name before 19 century as you were part of 3 different Ottoman nations (milliets) and maybe you were differed with words like Ghegi, Toski, Arnauti and Arbereshi. When Greeks and Serbs started to split away you faced the problem of self identification. Because you belonged to milliet- Muslim, milliet-i Rum (Orthodox) and milliet-i Katolik at the time. The only thing that united you was close dialects. You spoke rather clear for one another and that's why you called yourself Plain Speaking = Shqiptare.

Thus the region inhabited by you was called Shqipperia and it a well documented fact. But the masters of Europe needed to hide the truth about the famous Albanians so they called this small tribe that had never enjoyed it own statehood as Albania. But a mouse can't play a role of the elephant so other fairy tales about Illyrians who were Slavs and Arber (Arder!) were used too but the problem is still hanging in the air so you stick to the Rus fame and glory - the White Horde.

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LOL

pre 7 godina

This forum is for communicating in English. There is also a Serbian version , You need to find the one for gibberish mumbo jumbo.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 15:27)

That's what the English site is for, so semi-literate Albanian pizza flippers can use their internet powered by tractors and generators to send off barely comprehensible text written in English as mangled and jarbled as their dental records. The Serbian site's comment section is light years ahead of what gets filtered through here.

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rote

pre 7 godina

There is a good possibility that that the gas was stored by someone in a warehouse that was bombed by Syrian pilots and subsequently released into the air causing the horrific fate of the people in the area.
(Sam D, 7 April 2017 19:39)

Warships Ross and Porta moved from Gibraltar and Spain towards the Creete Island 1 and 2 days earlier than the gas appeared. It means a coordination of An-Nusra and the USA as it had always happened in the past. Another sample is a sumultanious missile strike and the land attack of Al Qaeda here. To say nothing that altogether it diverts attention frome barbaric bombardments of Mosul where humanitarian catastrophe is 10 times wordse that the one in Aleppo when Russia released the city. America is a bastard state ruled by a dozen of banking houses who hate the mankind.

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rote

pre 7 godina

@rote Russia said that it was planes because they have been filmed by witnesses and tracked by NATO. It cannot be denied, any other explanation would make Russia a bigger laughing stock than they already are. Show me this evidence, if it is as fake as the MH17 "evidence", the UN probably put it in the latrines for staff to wipe their asses. It will take time for all facts to be discovered but you wouldn't know what a "documented fact" was even if it slapped you in the head.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 17:44)

The stick in your ass prevents you from thinking. Please pull it out next time you enrich b92 forum with your comments. Russia does not defend all territory of Syria. Our missiles defend the zone around our two bases there. But I think that after the US provocation Putin will respond soon. Maybe not in Syria ... As for MH-17 it was brought down together by Ukraine and Hollande and the USA. From the first minutes it was found our people in Donbass said that some of the bodies were old deads and no blood was coming out of them ...

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

It is certainly similar to 1999 in that Russia looked the other way when its ally wanted support. If rumors are true, Russia was notified to remove its citizens from the area and they never told Assad

I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.
(Dwight, 7 April 2017 11:50)

Get yourself educated before posting garbage on here. If you think that Russia and Germany was "allied" over the invasion of Poland, think again. Molotov signed the agreement with Ribbintrop Nazi's to be neutral and delay the inevitable invasion of Russia or operation Barbarossa. England, France et al betrayed Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Greece and the rest of Europe as Nazi Germany rolled across Europe. Nazi Germany was aided by Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Italy, Spain and fascist elements in Ukraine, Croatia, Slovakia, and other European countries eventually declaring war on the US.

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Gjon Marku

pre 7 godina

Russia doing what they do best. Nothing. So much for deploying S-300.

This war should have been ended years ago and we only got to this point because of the hesitation from the US and Nato. Whoever thought that Russia "the Bear" was flexing muscles forgot that the US and Nato are a natural power.

Nothing can stop US or Nato when they decide to move.

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

(rote, 7 April 2017 11:00)

We will let you do the barking, that's what you always do anyway. russia was tested before, 1999 serbia, turkey with the plane and the ambassador , the NATO surrounding your country, now with Syria, etc, etc, so barking all is left for you to do

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ, 7 April 2017 16:07)

Let me guess . This is got to be rote right? Every time you embarrassed or disappointed you change your name . You are calling me a sucker ha, I'll call you a " excuse machine" full of bs... The empty can makes more noise than the full one. Lol this will have consequences on US ? Hahaha. What you going to do sanctions ? The biggest suckers in the Balkans are the Serbs for listening and believing on you

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(factsonly, 7 April 2017 14:25)

This forum is for communicating in English. There is also a Serbian version , You need to find the one for gibberish mumbo jumbo.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

(factsonly, 7 April 2017 15:49)

Go post on stormfront, you'll get the help you need there. It's not just your English or your spelling, you can't even find the Caps Lock key but you think that you can tell that the chemical attack was a false flag.
Even Russia said that it was Syrian planes.

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НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

dWIGHT : Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children.

In WW2 Russia let like you to be born.
It was a mistake, a very expensive mistake.


Marku, Nothing can stop US or Nato when they decide to move.

Do you think that you are an absolute idiot or is there a hope to pump you out? What idiots will launch a war against Russia switching their final countdown ? NATO is a commercial organization designed to blackmail and beg money ... They can fight only aganst Granada because they loose all other wars you know.


Demi : US is the world leader and thats hope they intervene in Syria to save the innocent civilians there.

No intervention my friend !
Because Putin has forbidden it this morning.
But the tense will increase.
As the old allies are together again.
Those are Al-Qaeda, USA, an-Nusra, EU, Turkey, Israel, Qatar ...


Vojvodina : Hopefully Syrians will be smart enough to never allow that to happen.

Mudak ! How much is your own IQ ? Guess you know what I mean ...


FeZ : To hell with Putin, Asad and others alike!

Hope these two gentlemen will let you pass there first.


Rolandi : Serbs and Russians are no thing more then puppets

of whom ?


david campbell

f-kk you too !


Bob

I am not a specialist in parrots so kindly tell me where are from?
You know I had a green Central Asian parrot like you and he could only sa ГОША ХОРОШИЙ, ХОРОШИЙ ГОША just like you PUTIN IS BAD, BAD IS PUTIN ...

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Navi

pre 7 godina

The airfield that was bombed by US forces yesterday was used by Syrian jets to launch attacks against insurgents just now. So much for American involvement saving the day.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/warplanes-from-syrian-base-hit-by-us-just-carried-out-airstrikes-in-homs/

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

O My God - already seen set-up and screenplay. Like bombing the market in Sarajevo, Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Now bombing and gassing children in Syria.

EVERYBODY - JUST USE YOUR BRAIN AND LOGIC.

"What on the Earth can be the purpose of ASAD DOING THAT at this time. To achieve nothing and provoke US strike." SO CLEARTHROUGH -
THEY NEED SOMETHING AND MADE IT HAPPEN. THEY STARTED IT 6 YEARS BEFORE(NOT ASSAD) AND IT'S TIME TO FINISH IT - TILL THE LAST BUILDING STANDS.


USE JUST BRAIN AND LOGIC - BEFORE BE BIASED AND SENTIMENTAL.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

Russia allied with Nazis - did you know who defeated Nazi Germany.
(factsonly, 7 April 2017 16:06)

Yes I know who defeated Nazi Germany and I also know who was allied with who and when.
I realise that your history book may not have any section on 23.08.1939 to 22.06.1941, especially if you live in Russia, so here is a 90 second introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-l9AE0hH8

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Sam D

pre 7 godina

It is inconceivable that the Russians would allow Assad to commit this act. They had nothing to gain by the saran gas attack. There is a good possibility that that the gas was stored by someone in a warehouse that was bombed by Syrian pilots and subsequently released into the air causing the horrific fate of the people in the area. The question is who stored the gas in view of the fact that all chemical weapons were removed previously
At any rate the USA is being suckered into another war by manufactured atrocities. Do you remember Racak, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Libya etc
Let's not jump to conclusions yet.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

I have one question for the dhiaspora members both serbs and albanians who dedicated poems to trump when this piece of sh*t colour orange won: is it true that this psychopath with the charm of drunken elephant said in an interview that his wife that stupid escort from slovenia doesn't make farts at all? Now what else can be said? Very low level but it,looks like he represents the average american unfortunately.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

The CE of B92 forums sj is going to release his/her conclusions of what really happened soon. Since it's the reality that needs to conform to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj and not the other way around, everybody must wait for the explanation of this event by the CE of B92 forums sj. I'm sure his/her explanation would be brilliant, as always :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

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LOL

pre 7 godina

Good analogy. Yugoslavia and Iraq were also done by the US more for show than results. Both places ended up worse than they did before. Missiles launched achieved little tactical use. Statements made in retaliation against something in the country were for internal consumption only. The presidents involved needed a nice distraction away from scandalous news, and only the dumbest and least intelligent honestly believed true and actual justice was being done. Some of the comments below once again make their own stereotypes.

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Avni

pre 7 godina

Good job USA. To me it's was funny when Russians talk about the international law. Where was international law whey they invaded Georgia and Ukraine? Where war international law when the bombed hospitals and schools in Syria? We live in 2017, and 100 years ago poison gas was used during the WW1. Now Russia supports a dictator who in 2017 gasses own people. What else can one say?

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АЛБАНЕЦ

pre 7 godina

B 92 why rote it's allowed to use "stupid" on his comments, and every time i try it's filtered
(Albanian American, 8 April 2017 01:10)

American Albanian sounds as ridiculous as Hebrew SS. Most natural word to accompany Albanian is word Rus, not even Russian. Illyrians were a Slavic tribe so ask yourself ancesrors other than ours. Why don't you like my version of the Shqiptare who came together in early 19 century? In a way I don't mind you call yourself Albanians and use our coat of arms, Skenderbeu legends, The Albanian League ect.

Shqiptars could be in our American hordes but they could only be submitted to the Slavs. It was a caste society where the Rjuricovici and their branches ruled only. Such as Nemanici, Medici, Izjaslavic Turovskie, Monomahici, Svjatoslavici ect. Even Tamerlanane could not head a horde because only his wife was a Rjurikovici ... So he remained an Amir only. But the Ottoman Padishahs (Sultans) were all Rjuricovici, unlike the Prussian Romanovs (aka Sobakini-Jurjevi) ...

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rote

pre 7 godina

Please tell me if you know that the equipment for Sarine and Iprite production was made in Albania and delivered via Turkey to Syria ? I just want to know how well western media is feeding you. If you knew about it please give me your "like" - just this one time !
(rote, 7 April 2017 19:54) # Comment link
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So most of you heard nothing about the Albanian equipment producing chemical arms in Syria. It's a 2 year old story. Albanian made equipment was found of very low quality but the jihadis have no better supplier so they use it all over Syria and Iraq. Many times the shells and mines were shown over the TV. But the last show of the White Helmets was fake as everything they do. In Idlib they shooted a film where Sarine is handled even without gloves and respirators. If it were for real all would be as good as deads. Last night Al Jazeera showed mines with Sarine found in Mosul. The jihadis used them a couple of days ago but nobody sent there the Tomahawks. Because their problem is Assad but not Al Qaeda. All that chemical weapons is made on Albanian machines of the Saudi chemical components. Russian reporters showed the mines and shells many times during our Aleppo operation. All international organizations were informed but they stay silent ... Everything is also available in U-Tube. The equipment was delivered via Turkey and deployed in Idlib province controlled by the Turks.

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JS

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?

President Trump just ordered a few dozen "clunky old" Tomahawk missiles to be lobbed into Syrian airspace and "state-of-the-art" air defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 2

Because both were submitted to it. But part of the Mamelukes returned home in early 1517. Those were Great Kbiazes Cherkasskie (Voisko Donskoe), Kabarda and Ossetian people of Caucasus. They arrived like Tsars but not like refugees. They had high and swift horses that nobody had ever seen on the Caucasus and they drove them like no one coud. Their dress and arms changed too since they abandoned Caucasus in 1382. More than that they came here with thousands of their slaves and it became a big problem of Russia when slavery was abolished here in 1861. In Kabarda it took about 20-30 years because slavery became their national tradition and their women did not know how to do many things. By the way Kabarda means Kaaba Orda because they guarded Kaaba and Medina (Медынь) since 1382 till 1516 never letting Arabs inside. It was Burdji Dynasty called after the castle in Misr (Cairo). After Selim I destroyed the Mamelukes he appointed them to rule the same lands that included half Africa + Hijjaz + Syria + Iraq + what is called Palestine now. It looks strange from current viewing of the history as Selim became Calif of all the Muslims while the Mamelukes remained Orthodox Christians. So Hidjaz with Mecca and Medina was ruled by the Christians till 1811 when the Brits invited 800 most powerful Mamelukes to Cairo and massacred them. Other Mamelukes had to abandon Misr for Anatolia.

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rote

pre 7 godina

The Brits appointed the Saudittes to rule the region and it was the first time that local tribes got an access to Mecca! Mamelukes took a very active part in wars against the Protestants in Europe. It lasted for decades in late 16 and in 17 centuries when they helped the Catholic Church and the House of Medici and and Gerzog Alba and Phillip II of Spain. Even in 19 century they still spoke Russian and Tatar languages. They called themselves PEOPLE while Arabs were like beasts for them. And even in central Turkey where they settled after 1811 local peoples accepted them like Gods. You know that Kabarda and Ossetian Mamelukes went to the ME as Orthodox and returned as Othodox Cristians but in late 19 century after 101 years of wars against Russia greater part of the Kabarda people had to run to Turkey where 5 millions of them live now against 500 000 in Russia. But after 1826 the Ottomans became absolute Muslims so they put a condition that they could accept the refugees only as Muslims. Kabarda peoples are called Cherkess in Turkey but it's a mistake. Their ethnonim is Adiga while Cherkess were pure Russians. Word Cabardes can also be found on map of France ...

We know too little about our past otherwise there would be not so much confrontation I think. Shqiptare footprints may be found even in the Far East on Aleut Islands bcause the hordes were sent to all parts of the empire. Very ofthen they stayed there forever ...

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Joni

pre 7 godina

Russian Senator Oleg Morozov - And what about Russian bombardment in Afghanistan, Ukraina, Chechnya, Ossetia and even in Syria?

Russia failed - US failed - both are sh...t , siting there and seeing those poor children dying like cockroaches. but, go f... yourselves, you and all these m..fckers. The humanity is dead!

You are not credible anymore, none of you!

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

"Perfect" Dwight,

Sorry for grammar - or errors in my English post.

BUT IF I SPEAK WITH ACCENT AND WRITE WITH ERROS,

MY BRAIN WORKS ERROR FREE AND WITHOUT ACCENT.

You can go to the other language and grammar specific sites and feed your English supremacy problems.

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Prishtina(County of Gollak

pre 7 godina

Americans will never allow anybody to take over ,they are and will be the power of the world forever ,they are only woried about 20000 white syrians ,thats all they are interested in that part of the world ,thats the answer.....

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu 1

Balkans weren't a colony of the Ottomans but their metropoly. So after the Dabiq Battle of 1516 when Misr was destroyed many people from the peninsula were sent to Africa and other former Misr provinces. If you could see the map under the same angle as I do you would find lots of interesting things that never occured to you. Main toponimals there are still of Rus/Slavic or Tatar/Turkic orygin.

I remember that I've promiced you ORDA/ ARTA/ URDU/ ORDO/ RADA/ RAT words. But it's so annoying to filter them out. Besides I begin to think that maybe the unfiltered mix of mine would show a better pictire all over the world. Say the Nile River that you have mentioned is reflected in the names of all Europeans but who could have an access to the region except the Great Horde? And so is the Serbian word Nilski Kon (Nile Horse) for Hypopotam. How could they know about it unless they saw it by themselves?

Same with the river itself. There were two Niles the Blue and the White one. Half of the river was named White Nile after the White Horde (the main) and the other was Blue Nile after the Blue Horde in Ukraine. When the Golden Horde was destroyed in 1380 the Blue Horde submitted to the White and the empire was consolidated again. Ottoman Padishahs called Sultans later were a branch of the Rjurikovici but the Blue Horde belonged to them. So after Misr was defeated in 1516 the Great Horde remained indifferent.

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PEN

pre 7 godina

@Joni:

Probably the best comments I've yet heard on B92. They're all the same. It's the innocent ones who pay the price. All the so-called 'Great Powers' are doing is testing their new weapons systems on flesh and blood. Awful.

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Free

pre 7 godina

In ex-Yugoslavia the case was clear: a psycopath using army for genocide and ethnic cleansing. NATO bombed only military and strategic targets. There were casualities, both Serbian and Albanian but they were in small numbers, and those bombings saved million of lives.

In Iraq it was a psycopath who bombed the whole country to the ground to remove another psycopath from power and as a result millions of lives were/are ruined.

In Syria are a bunch of psycopaths, Syrian, Russian, American, Turkish etc who are really massacrating the whole Syria.

God forbid you become Trump`s enemy, Putin`s friend and Erdogan`s neighbour.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

Fake Dwight - PLEASE FACTS ONLY:

What a bamboo jumbo gibberish is this below - maybe not bad English but 100% false:

"I was more thinking of 1941 though, Russia allied with a monster who kills hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Russia was allied with Nazi Germany when they invaded Yugoslavia, now Russia is allied with Assad as he gasses children."

Russia allied with Nazis - did you know who defeated Nazi Germany.

Maybe your perfect English will say NDH - Croatia and Albania, Bulgaria Italy etc. - Dwight please read more - use your brain to get right information.

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factsonly

pre 7 godina

Bob and Dwight,


shhhhhhhhhhhhhh - facts only.

Just use your brain - you have it, just use it for facts and not for hate. I don't ask much - and logic can be handy too.

Sorry for spelling errors but you got a point - brain and logic vs. hate and bs - and the winner is???

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

НАСТОЯЩИЙ АЛБАНЕЦ, 7 April 2017 19:45)

Every time USA humiliates you russian bs history professor, you change the subject .
You are full of crap, nothing you say it's true, not even the serbs in this site don't believe what you say , NOTHING... We not rus you dummy , Illyrians have nothing with rus you're moron , everything you say is wrong ,

B 92 why rote it's allowed to use "stupid" on his comments, and every time i try it's filtered

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

Rote 2 Speaking of Misir I was searching for an old folk song "Mora rrugen per Misir" (I headed to Misir) and I found out that during communist era they replaced Misir with Janina, Ioannina. Here is the song though performed by legendary clarinet maestro Laver Bariu. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyk76k_laver-bariu-mora-rrugen-per-janine_music. If you like folk music here is a famous albanian song performed in a scene from Gjeneral Gramofoni film released in 1978. A group of albanians playing folk music during the fascist occupation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm-wCT4nboA It is such a beautiful tosk song "Te rrapi ne Mashkullore" but Im not good at translating folklor songs. I asked my daughter who speaks american english better that Maxine Waters but she said you must be a tosk to understand this song and I am a geg! If Victory 99 helps me I will be very grateful.

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Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

You must be an Albanian pizza flipper then since your comment above perfectly fits the way you described them lol
(icj1, 8 April 2017 16:12)

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icj1, the CB of B92, has the boys from Python rolling with laughter. Our resident bigot, icj1, failed basic English grammar. Recently, icj1 went to extraordinary effort to prove (s)he doesn't know the rules governing the use of lower case or upper case letters. With each daily post, the CB of B92, continues to prove that idiocy, intolerance and ignorance define icj1.

PS CB = Chief Bigot

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Albanian American

pre 7 godina

(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 10 April 2017 11:51)

Wow you are so smart, omg you are genius, you are the smartest . Look at your name , something that doesn't exist. O M G

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

@rote
Russia said that it was planes because they have been filmed by witnesses and tracked by NATO.
It cannot be denied, any other explanation would make Russia a bigger laughing stock than they already are.

Show me this evidence, if it is as fake as the MH17 "evidence", the UN probably put it in the latrines for staff to wipe their asses.

It will take time for all facts to be discovered but you wouldn't know what a "documented fact" was even if it slapped you in the head.

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icj1

pre 7 godina

Politically why would he launch a chemical attack
(Petar, 7 April 2017 22:53)

You provided the answer to that questions.... "Russia is on his side and days earlier Trump revealed he doesn't mind Assad staying in power" (Petar, 7 April 2017 22:53)

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icj1

pre 7 godina

That's what the English site is for, so semi-literate Albanian pizza flippers can use their internet powered by tractors and generators to send off barely comprehensible text written in English as mangled and jarbled as their dental records. The Serbian site's comment section is light years ahead of what gets filtered through here.
(LOL, 7 April 2017 20:20)

You must be an Albanian pizza flipper then since your comment above perfectly fits the way you described them lol

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu : during communist era they replaced Misir with Janina, Ioannina.

They changed words all the time before, during and after the communists and it happened all over the earth. Each king or president had his own resons to improve the past. That's why we fell into idiotism discussin what was first egg or chicken, who settled here or there first ect. They change only one letter and it changes the whole idea. Replace a letter in Ken Turky chicken (turkey) and you receive Kentukky Chicken or California instead of Calif Orda, Canada instead of Can Arda or America instead of Amer-i Can ect.ect. And it happens all over the earth be it Okeania (Ak-e Hania) , Confucius ( Con Fuji) in China or Fuji Hama in Japan. Out of 5 Portlands (P--Orta Land) in America 2 has no acces to any water ect. ect. It's all the same in Latin America, New Zeeland ect. In one case they write Awkland in the other it's Oakland and nobody sees that in both cases we deal with Ak Land = land of the Whites/Beli/Ak/Albabians ... So your communists were innocent childs changing a couple words only. They had no intention to change the whole history and they besides didn't spoil the song.

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Petar

pre 7 godina

This is all a distraction. Does anyone seriously believe Trump all of a sudden cares about "beautiful babies" in Syria? I have doubts that this chemical attack was done by the Assad regime to begin with. Politically why would he launch a chemical attack when Russia is on his side and days earlier Trump revealed he doesn't mind Assad staying in power? This is simply the easiest way for Trump to flex his baby hands and take the attention off of his chaotic administration. His failures with his travel ban and Obamacare repeal and replace are now on the back burner and we can all say "Wow look at President Trump stand up to this dictator. He's such a great leader!" Do not take the bait.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

People use your brain. Where are Iraq's weapons of mass destruction? Where were them? In the bathrooms alla turka of Sadam? This nation of psycopaths just needs a justification for their dirty wars. 1 million lives in Iraq, Iraq, Lybia and Syria completely destroyed. People, civilians are dying like sheep in Yemen and Iraq and trump cries over little babies in Syria? What about millions of little babies you will never see in the news and died you mediocre actor? And you are so worried about Syria that you go playing golf after being so touched from the little babies death? I think they did it, their proxies in Syria or either payed a traitor from Asad's solders to do it. And then bombed Syrians to cover the evidence. Why didnt they wait for an international investigation? And most importantly who are you to decide who deserves to be bombed and who doesnt? Who the hell are you a nation of arrogants and illiterate people who don't even know where Syria and Korea are?

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Rote Which ethnicity do you think Mamelukes belonged to? We have Arta as a name for women and Artan for men. Also I found these on the despotate of Arta and the Gulf of Arta. Why do you think that nobody wants to know more on the things you write on? Maybe balkans people are just striving to survive as always and these trips into the past that you offer to the publuc are just a luxury many cant afford. Many of us strive to have an almost normal life, many dont have one, others never had one, others are loose fighters of dead empires.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despotate_of_Arta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambracian_Gulf

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sj

pre 7 godina

This chemical attack is a tad too convenient for me so it was the rebels, who are losing on all fronts, thought they would get a full scale response from the US and provide some relief and turn the tide for them.
Or even the US could have organised this so they could justify any actions and improve Trump's standings. I cant for the life of me see what gain Assad would get in dropping these chemical weapons since he is wining on all fronts.

The US response was weird to say the least. They unleashed $69 million worth of Cruise Missiles and they only hit old and empty bunkers on one side of the airfield but the two main runways and buildings still in use were not touched. And it now has come out that Moscow was advised of US intentions well in advance. Very strange.

This is one of the better articles covering this story http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/04/donald-trumps-symbolic-strike-syria-170407122029617.html

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu

see how Europeans painted Rus Khans/Cams/Chammes in Siberia, China, Asia and America - you don't need to understand Russian to find that something is wrong in our history especially when it comes to Gengis Khan ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOdNvsN4zs

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sj

pre 7 godina

Hmmm...where are sj and NWO?

President Trump just ordered a few dozen "clunky old" Tomahawk missiles to be lobbed into Syrian airspace and "state-of-the-art" air defense systems provided by world-leading Russia weren't able to shoot down a single one?!? So much for your narrative of a "New World Order." Let us know when you wake up from your dream...
(JS, 7 April 2017 13:06)

That means if the Russians could not stop those missiles then we can expect the US to take over Syria in the next couple of days then LOL.

So they spent about $69 million and the only thing they targeted was on one side of the airfield which had no infrastructure apart from some old aircraft bunkers, which were not even destroyed, while the two main runways plus buildings on the other side of the field and still in use remained untouched.

Does this possibly tell you something? Maybe and just maybe the idea was not to destroy anything but mainly for domestic consumption. By the way the Russians were told well beforehand that this was happening.

Its bozos like you that believe everything TV tell you. Ask CNN or Fox when the US intends to take over Syria. This week or next? If you were living in the Artic they could sell you a refrigerator.

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Dwight

pre 7 godina

Molotov signed the agreement with Ribbintrop Nazi's to be neutral.
(Jugoslavija, 7 April 2017 17:21)
You should do stand up in a comedy club.
The agreement was not signed to delay any inevitable war. It was a specific agreement that Russia would not defend enemies of Germany including Yugoslavia.
It divided eastern European countries among the two powers allowing Germany to attack eastern Europe and the Balkans, and allowing Stalin to attack Eastern Europe and Asia.

Stalin invaded Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Poland to be neutral?
When UK declared war on Germany for attacking Poland, Stalin attacked Poland!
Hitler no longer had to worry about protecting the Eastern Front and he could then wage war freely knowing Russia would not defend Yugoslavia or anywhere else.
The agreement was not signed to delay an inevitable war. Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
I can only think that your biased revisionism is based on your man-love for Putin or NATO 1999 because it has no basis in facts.

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Skenderbeu 1444

pre 7 godina

@ Rote Maybe you're also playing golf this weekend but I'm still thinking about the sultanate of Misir! So strange that Egypt and Cairo have always been known as Misir in the Balkans, we always referred to Misir. What a surprise has been for me to discover that Misir is not a wonderland somewhere near Nil but it is what Egypt is called today from his own people. Also you're right on the turkic language being a relatively new language and the same turkic nation.

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The Count of Kosova

pre 7 godina

Some of the comments below once again make their own stereotypes.
(LOL, 7 April 2017 15:28)


LOL,
As do your comments. Conspiracy theories live and die on b92.

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rote

pre 7 godina

Skenderbeu : @ Rote Which ethnicity do you think Mamelukes belonged to? We have Arta as a name for women and Artan for men.

It's a good question. According to Fomenko the main force of the Mamelukes was composed of the Great Princes Cherkasskie from Donbass region. Next came the Adiga and Ossetians from northern Caucasusus. By mistake the Caucasians are called Cherkess now but none of the several Adiga peoples nor the Ossetians nor the Chechens nor any other Caucasians agrees to be Cherkess. Each of them has a name of their own. So after the Goden Horde was destroyed in 1380 the Great khan/kniaz Dmitry I Donskoy moved his religious capitol back to Jerusalem. He took there his Greek Patriarch and since then ruled the empire from Tsargrad. In Turkish chronicles he entered as Murat I while in European ones he is Constantine I. It sounds strange only untill you begin to correlate the dates. Then everything becomes plain ald logical. In 1389 Khan Dmity aka Murat was killed on Kosovo field while Constantine lived much earlier as we are told. The truth is that there's a shift of the dates in European history equal to 1152 years and in Greek history about 1800 years and in Byzantine about 330 years. Now if you add 1152 years to the official date of death of Cinstantine I (337) you'll find yourself on the same Kosovo field of 1389. To say nothing that Constantine sounds very much of a Con Stan = Han's Place and Constantinopole = Con Stan Pole.

see part-2

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Jugoslavija

pre 7 godina

Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
(Dwight, 8 April 2017 15:50) # Comment link

That't not true, Stalin signed the agreement to buy time, they were never a"allies" a falsehood taught by some historians. If you really want to educated yourself, read the rise and fall of the Third Reich by William Shafer who was in the Nazi government and the book is based on factual documents comprised of diaries diaries of German Generals , Stalin , Molotov, Galeazzo Ciano and others. Hitler in Mein Kemp specifically talks about Lebensraum and to eliminate the lower class Slavs and break Russia.
https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-History/dp/1451651686

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As I wrote it above in 1380 the Great Khan Dmirty I Donskoy moved to Tsargrad and called it Constantinpole (Con Stan Tin Pole) where Tin could mean Tanais now Azov city. Central district was called Halk-i Don = People of Don (River). Another date to remember is 1382 when Dmitry sent his Mamelukes to Misr. It's very important to keep them in mind because in 15 century relations between the descendants of Prince Dmitry and his son Vasily I (Bayased I) and the Khans who stayed in mainland Rus began to worsen. In 1445 Greek Patriarch abandoned Veliki Novgorod for Tsargrad. Formal direct descendant of Dmitry I ect was young Constantine IX in Tsargrad but de facto the empire was ruled from Veliki Novgorod by other Rjurikovici who believed that their relatives in Tsargrad had lost their Hordian spirit and traditions. It could not last long as it threatened the whole Empire so preparation for the war was started. Meanwhile the Mamelukes were the main land force of the Rjurikovici in Tsargrad but they were too far from the potential battlefield and of course they could not withstand the Great Horde. Then in 1453 the Great Horde led by Mehmet II concentrated in Macedonia. They brought fleet but the Golden Horn was closed with a big chain so the ships were moved (volokom) through the surphase. It was a traditional Rus way to move ships between rivers. Constantine IX died in the battle and Mehmet II (Michail Tverskoy) seized the city.

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He called it Stan Bulgar because the hordes came from Volga (Belga, Bulgar) River. Now they became neighbors to the Mamelukes who controlled Iraq, Syria, Palestine and Africa (Afri Can). Mamelukes collected taxes and guarded the saint places. Yet conflicts happened like the Battle of Angora (Han Gora) that is capitol of Turkey now. It happened not in 1402 like we are told but in late 15 century while Tamerlane was one of the names of Mehmet II. Mamelukes were strong enough to defeat the Osmans (Rosmans) 2-3 times. So Selim I launched a war in 1516 defeating the Mamelukes on the Dabiq Field near Aleppo. He had an advantage of 50 copper cannons while the Mamelukes relied on their best heavy cavalry. Sultan Cansava (Can Sava) was killed and his nephew Tumen Bey failed to collect new horde. What happened next was surprising. Selim I (Father of Suleiman) called himself Calif i.e. head of the military, civil and church powers worldwide. Just like once Bati Khan (Vatican) had done ! Half of the Mamelukes refused to obey him and returned to north Caucasus in early 1517. Those were Kabarda (Kaaba Orda) Adigs and the Ossetians. Cherkassy Princes take roots from Astrakhan but their initial roots were in Ukraine. They were dissolved fast among their people and left no trace after 18 century. But Kabarda people lead their chronolgy since Inal Svetly ___ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Inal while I found 3 Ossetian Mameluke Amirs only.

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Initially the Mamelukes were of Slavic and North Caucasian origyn. But after 1517 when Mist Sultanate was submitted to the Ottomans (Atamans) things Balkan peoples including the non-Slavic were involved to rule the vast African (Afri Can) Asian lands. Be careful when it comes to word Albanian because the Mamelukes and the Ottomans were both Albanians aka Beli aka Ak aka Whites. Libya, Lebanon, Baalbek and many other words pointed at it. Even the sea near Lybia was marked on maps as White Sea. So was Morocco (More Aka) = Sea of the White and many other toponymals on the shore and deep inside the continent. Tunisia = Tanais = Tan Asia = Dona Asia. Sudan is composed of two words (Su and Dan) meaning the same (River, Water) in Turkic and Rus languages. 80% of the MAIN toponymals in Africa still have Slavic or Turkic/Tatar roots. Those are the main rivers, mountains, places and Arda-Orda-Arta is one of such markers. So it's not strange that you have them like male and female names. If you take name Anna and enter Wikipedia you will soon find it Hanna oryginal and so are the famous Canaans no matter how they explain it. Balkan peoples was one for centuries and that's why they had no conflicts before 19 century. So I get upset when we talk about some Croats Kings, Albanian leagues, Serbian Zhupans and other imagionary ghosts. The truth is written in our genomes, maps and other places. But we avoid to see it not to look traitors in our current conflicts.

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The link you gave about Arta directly points at Octavianus Augustus whom the Rjurikovici considered their ancestor. The always mentioned only this name as the start of their dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebOVJAqDL6w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQaaeLvaOGQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GrXrarhUn0

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(Jugoslavija, 10 April 2017 18:22)
Hitler always had an idea to attack Russia, but any attempt explain Stalin's pact with Hitler and the subsequent invasion of neighboring countries as a ruse to get time is a joke.

Stalin did not remain neutral and it was an alliance .
If he wanted to stall for time he would have stayed out of Poland allowing them to fight Germany. The invasion of Poland was a joint operation with co-ordination between the 2 attacking countries
Russia provided materials that Germany needed to support its war.

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Russia provided materials that Germany needed to support its war.
(Dwight, 11 April 2017 11:09)

The US also provided more materials to the Nazi's than the Russians did. What is the main reason the Nazi's attacked Russia? Its the oil fields in Azerbaijan as the Ploesti fields in Romania were not enough to supply the panzer divisions. Russia was prepared and ready to completely blow up the oil and gas facilities but the Nazi's were stopped in Leningrad.

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Stalin did not consider that Germany would attack him until long after the agreement was signed.
(Dwight, 8 April 2017 15:50)

Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started. His paranoia convinced him that all rumors about the German imminent attack were staged by the British in order to get the Soviet Union into war with Germany. Millions of soviet soldiers died because of Stalin's incompetence and paranoia who brought the Soviet Union to the brink of collapse both economically and militarily, only to be saved by the American industrial might.

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Kniaz Dmitry launched a big invasion to Misr in 1382 and I can explain why coz after the Golden Horde was destroyed it followers still sticked to the old pagan version of Christianity while Dmitry/ Constantine advertised the Apostolic one. So he had to do something about it to cement the Empire. ME was a vital region so the first hordes were sent there. Those were heavy cavalry troops that no one could resist. Even after 200 years the Mameluke cavalry remained the best. But since 1250 other Rus Hordes were already deployed in the region. They are called Kurds (K-orda) now.

It was then that the Kaaba stone was delivered to Mecca and other saint things were transported to that far away province. Pyramides were built under the survey of the Mamelukes to keep the gold of the Empire. But in 16 century it was transported to Tobolsk, Siberia.

Very important mission of the Mamelukes was to guard the Imperial Cemetery in Geeze (Kazak) Valley where all the ancestors of the Rus Khans and the Byzantine Emperors were burried as Pharaohs. It was a Rus word written as ПХРН (ПОХОРОН) + NAME. The last Pharaoh was burried 7 years before Napoleon digged him out. Dead bodies were brought here from all over the world and the Mamelukes were put here to guard them.

Copt people were sent here from Astrakhan Region to take care and pray for the dead Khans. They had no language problems with the Mamelukes who refused to speak Arabiab for centuries.

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Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started.
(icj1, 12 April 2017 03:57)

I suggest you read a real book, not comic books. A few hours before the attack!!! Stalin was not as stupid as you.

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Stalin did not think that Germany would attack until few hours before the attack actually started.
(icj1, 12 April 2017 03:57)

I suggest you read a real book, not comic books. A few hours before the attack!!!
(Jugoslavija, 13 April 2017 18:28)

Yup, Stalin issuing the order to put the Soviet armed forces on alert a few hrs before the attack was almost comical since it's likely that that order did not even manage to reach the units at the front lines before the attack actually started. No wonder the Germans caught the Soviet armed forces by total surprise and millions of Soviet soldiers were captured or killed because of Stalin's paranoia and incompetence.

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