French court handling Haradinaj case has "more questions"

send this dog back to Serbia, so he pays for his horrific crimes against Serbs and Albanians alike. this is not causing instability, this dog needs a cage.

Poor France... Trying to find a legal loophole so as not to extradite the suspect without appearing to condone or aid terrorism. If this man was a Serb facing trial for war crimes, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago. Disgusting French hypocrites.

O my, O my, we Serb's need to cross all of our " T's " and dot all of our " i's " don't we ???

French are working overtime to help criminals! No wonder that France is falling apart.

From icj: "Sorry mate, but the Court is asking whether the acts that Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed were defined as crimes by Serbia's criminal code."

I'm quite sure the killing of civilians and the beheading of a baby are crimes according to Serbia's criminal code just as they are in most civilized societies. Funny icj didn't make one peep about Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes! Thus demonstrating his/her hatred toward Serbs with no real concern for justice! Your hypocrisy is astounding!

Of course, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago if there were sufficient evidence to support the extradition. So where is the hypocrisy?!
(icj1, 11 March 2017 04:13)

To icj1,
Tell that to šešelj and his 12 years in jail ,and then found NOT GUILTY.
The Serbian Nelson Mandela . Even before his trial there was no evidence for his fake crimes. During his trial ,no witness where killed,let alone 6 for your hero.
How biased are you ? ,Have a look at yourself ))

(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:24)

I'd say njegos and nejegos would have to declare you an idiot after posting such a dumb response LOL. Talk about knit picking at its best. You need to change your style as it’s getting a tad old and tiring. You’re not good at this at all mate.
For the record Seselj was not found guilty by the Hague Tribunal on an charges be they war crimes or any other charges.

Serbia is wasting everyone's money and time especially in Haradinaj's case. It really aiming to provoke instabiliry, having Kosovo without an army, abusing Inerpol position regarding arrest of Kosovo polititians and ultemately partition of Kosovo.

This is a joke. He'll be released very soon and nobody will know until they see him in Kosovo. The Hague declared him innocent, unlike some Serbs who Serbian government doesn't even want to extradite to the Hague. Now do the math.

Balkan war criminals make a comeback in Serbia...http://www.worldbulletin.net/balkans/185325/balkan-war-criminals-make-a-comeback-in-serbia

French are working overtime to help criminals!
(MikeD, 10 March 2017 21:39)

No dear, the French are working to help the rule of law. I understand that might be an alien concept in Serbia, but not in France.

For example, "One of the questions concerns the date when Article 142, paragraph 1 was added to the Criminal Code of Serbia, which provides for the punishment of war crimes against civilians. Another question is whether the provisions of this Article were valid between June 12 and 20, 1999, when the offenses that Haradinaj is suspected of were committed."

That is a very valid and relevant question. If the acts Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed during the period 12-20 June 1999 were not defined as crimes by Serbia's Criminal Code during that time, then Haradinaj did not commit a crime and Serbia's extradition request is invalid (regardless of whether Haradinaj committed those acts or not).

icj - Please list the terrible crimes that Seselj was convicted of. I've asked you this previously and you continue to dodge the question. What's wrong icj, cat got your tongue?

This seems to be a pattern. I ask you questions and you run away. That speaks volumes about you.

From the Serb-hater icj: "It's certainly not outlandish for somebody to believe that the killing of civilians was not a crime in Serbia in 1999, given that members of the Serbian armed forces targeted and killed civilians with impunity in 1999 in Serbia."

Then I guess you are also of the opinion that it's not outlandish that the killing of Serbian civilians was not a crime in Croatia in 1995 as close to three thousand Serbs were killed in the newly established independent Croatia during Operation Storm and to date no one has been convicted of any crimes although Serb women, children and the elderly were butchered. Right icj? Or don't crimes against Serbs count in you book? You are a racist coward!!!

HAHAHA! The issue here icj is your feeble attempt to portray Serbs in a negative light every chance you get. You obfuscate, deflect and mislead. You've cut and pasted other's words to change the meaning of posts. You are a deceitful small person. And when when you are challenged on your positions, you fold and run away. You harp about justice, but never criticize the Hague for stealing 12 years of Seselj's life. And for what, 'contempt'? You've tried unsuccessfully in the past to equate Serb wrongdoing with the Croatian Ustasha crimes during WWII. You claimed that Zagreb wasn't bombed by the Nazis because it wasn't the capital of Yugoslavia! Remember that one icj? I'm still LMAO at that one!

You are a Croatian apologist and revisionist of the highest order. And I'll ask again one of the many, many questions that I've asked of you in the past that you've failed to answer in icj cowardly fashion, how many of your relatives were Ustasha during WWII? Surely you're proud of that dark period of your ancestry.

Trying to find a legal loophole so as not to extradite the suspect without appearing to condone or aid terrorism.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 10 March 2017 14:29)

Sorry mate, but the Court is asking whether the acts that Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed were defined as crimes by Serbia's criminal code. So what loophole are you talking about?! That's the basics of criminal justice. It's like the police arresting you for committing an act that is not a crime. Would you be happy with that?!
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If this man was a Serb facing trial for war crimes, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago. Disgusting French hypocrites.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 10 March 2017 14:29)

Of course, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago if there were sufficient evidence to support the extradition. So where is the hypocrisy?!

Icj1-
Go back to the kitchen woman where you belong and stay away from the politics

"Contempt" That's what Seselj was convcited of?? HAHAHA! You portrayed him as a war criminal, a monster, an evil human being! And after 12 years your beloved Hague could only nail him on 'contempt' charges? Too funny, icj. So you must now admit that Seselj IS NOT A WAR CRIMINAL, right? Come on type the words for all of us icj. Can you overcome your hatred of Serbs to admit that Seselj is NOT A WAR CRIMINAL? Come on icj, it'll be good for your soul. You know what they say, the truth will set you free...even a Serb-hater like you. LOL!!

the Court is asking whether the acts that Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed were defined as crimes by Serbia's criminal code.
(icj1, 11 March 2017 04:13)

I'm quite sure the killing of civilians and the beheading of a baby are crimes according to Serbia's criminal code just as they are in most civilized societies.
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

You or anybody being "sure" what the criminal code says, is not enough for a judge in any civilized society. If you want to convince the judge, you have to actually read the criminal code and quote it to the judge. Your gut feeling what the criminal code says is not good enough.

In addition, the Court is asking if those acts WERE defined as a crime in Serbia's criminal code in 1999, not now. So your writing that they ARE a crime, is a useless one for the Haradinaj's extradition case.

It's certainly not outlandish for somebody to believe that the killing of civilians was not a crime in Serbia in 1999, given that members of the Serbian armed forces targeted and killed civilians with impunity in 1999 in Serbia. So, it's perfectly legitimate for the French court to want to verify what Serbia's criminal code defined as crimes in 1999.

Someone here thnks killing children, civilians and unarmed persons during war time is not a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions. Can you guess who he is???

You portrayed him as a war criminal, a monster, an evil human being!
(njegos, 14 March 2017 18:55)

I can only find a certain "njegos" here writing about somebody being "a war criminal, a monster, an evil human being" so I guess by "you", you mean "njegos".
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So you must now admit that Seselj IS NOT A WAR CRIMINAL, right?
(njegos, 14 March 2017 18:55)

Let us know what's the answer once you clarify that with said "njegos". Nobody, other that this certain "njegos", wrote anything on this page about a certain Seselj being or not being a war criminal.

Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes!
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

A certain "njegos" wrote earlier http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=100654#k477322 that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES", but now you're saying that Seselj was only "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes". So whom of the "njegos" should we believe?!

Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes!
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

A certain "njegos" wrote earlier http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=100654#k477322 that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES", but now you're saying that Seselj was only "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes". So whom of the "njegos" should we believe?!
(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:24)

This seems to be a pattern. I ask you questions and you run away. That speaks volumes about you.
(njegos, 13 March 2017 14:59)

Well, I'm not sure who you are. There appear to be several njegos here writing different things, so I'm not sure whose questions are still outstanding lol

Can you confirm who of the different njegos you are and what are your questions?

For the record Seselj was not found guilty by the Hague Tribunal on an charges be they war crimes or any other charges.
(sj, 13 March 2017 10:08)

Oh, that's great. So, I assume that the CE of B92 forums sj has ordered the Hague Tribunal to reverse the following judgements where Seselj was found guilty and convicted to a total of 4,75 years imprisonment:

19 May 2010 - 15 months imprisonment http://www.icty.org/x/cases/contempt_seselj/acjug/en/100519_ajudg.pdf

28 Nov 2012 - 18 months imprisonment http://www.icty.org/x/cases/contempt_seselj2/acjug/en/121128_judgement.pdf

30 May 2013 - 2 years imprisonment http://www.icty.org/x/cases/contempt_seselj3/acjug/en/130530_judgement.pdf

If the Hague Tribunal refuses to follow the orders of the CE of B92 forums sj and reverse the above convictions, the UN Security Council must immediately act to punish the Hague Tribunal's judges for their refusal to obey the orders of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

From icj: " I'm not sure whose questions are still outstanding"

Keep running away icj. When one can't defend one's position, one runs away. You are a racist coward! It's been great exposing you as the fraud that you are! It's getting easier with each of your indefensible posts. LOL!

It's certainly not outlandish for somebody to believe that the killing of civilians was not a crime in Serbia in 1999, given that members of the Serbian armed forces targeted and killed civilians with impunity in 1999 in Serbia.
(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:10)

Then I guess you are also of the opinion that it's not outlandish that the killing of Serbian civilians was not a crime in Croatia in 1995 as close to three thousand Serbs were killed
(njegos, 13 March 2017 15:08)

Of course, I'd be of that opinion if the facts that you allege are proven beyond reasonable doubt like it was proven beyond reasonable doubt by the UN that some of the leaders of the VJ or MUP committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in Kosovo in 1999.
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Or don't crimes against Serbs count in you book? You are a racist coward!!!
(njegos, 13 March 2017 15:08)

Of course the crimes against Serbs count in my book, like the crimes against any person, regardless of ethnicity - I've already said that before. Just because you are a racist and hate Serbs, it does not mean that everybody is a racist and hates Serbs like you do.

Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes!
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

A certain "njegos" wrote earlier [link] that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES", but now you're saying that Seselj was only "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes". So whom of the "njegos" should we believe?!
(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:24)

This seems to be a pattern. I ask you questions and you run away. That speaks volumes about you.
(njegos, 13 March 2017 14:59)

Well, I'm not sure who you are. There appear to be several njegos here writing different things, so I'm not sure whose questions are still outstanding lol

Can you confirm who of the different njegos you are and what are your questions?
(icj1, 14 March 2017 15:46)

When one can't defend one's position, one runs away
(njegos, 14 March 2017 16:12)

Exactly, that explains why this certain njegos run away from his/her original writing that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES" to the new writing that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes" only.

Serbia is wasting everyone's money and time especially in Haradinaj's case. It really aiming to provoke instabiliry, having Kosovo without an army, abusing Inerpol position regarding arrest of Kosovo polititians and ultemately partition of Kosovo.

This is a joke. He'll be released very soon and nobody will know until they see him in Kosovo. The Hague declared him innocent, unlike some Serbs who Serbian government doesn't even want to extradite to the Hague. Now do the math.

Balkan war criminals make a comeback in Serbia...http://www.worldbulletin.net/balkans/185325/balkan-war-criminals-make-a-comeback-in-serbia

Trying to find a legal loophole so as not to extradite the suspect without appearing to condone or aid terrorism.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 10 March 2017 14:29)

Sorry mate, but the Court is asking whether the acts that Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed were defined as crimes by Serbia's criminal code. So what loophole are you talking about?! That's the basics of criminal justice. It's like the police arresting you for committing an act that is not a crime. Would you be happy with that?!
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If this man was a Serb facing trial for war crimes, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago. Disgusting French hypocrites.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin), 10 March 2017 14:29)

Of course, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago if there were sufficient evidence to support the extradition. So where is the hypocrisy?!

French are working overtime to help criminals!
(MikeD, 10 March 2017 21:39)

No dear, the French are working to help the rule of law. I understand that might be an alien concept in Serbia, but not in France.

For example, "One of the questions concerns the date when Article 142, paragraph 1 was added to the Criminal Code of Serbia, which provides for the punishment of war crimes against civilians. Another question is whether the provisions of this Article were valid between June 12 and 20, 1999, when the offenses that Haradinaj is suspected of were committed."

That is a very valid and relevant question. If the acts Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed during the period 12-20 June 1999 were not defined as crimes by Serbia's Criminal Code during that time, then Haradinaj did not commit a crime and Serbia's extradition request is invalid (regardless of whether Haradinaj committed those acts or not).

Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes!
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

A certain "njegos" wrote earlier http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=100654#k477322 that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES", but now you're saying that Seselj was only "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes". So whom of the "njegos" should we believe?!

send this dog back to Serbia, so he pays for his horrific crimes against Serbs and Albanians alike. this is not causing instability, this dog needs a cage.

the Court is asking whether the acts that Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed were defined as crimes by Serbia's criminal code.
(icj1, 11 March 2017 04:13)

I'm quite sure the killing of civilians and the beheading of a baby are crimes according to Serbia's criminal code just as they are in most civilized societies.
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

You or anybody being "sure" what the criminal code says, is not enough for a judge in any civilized society. If you want to convince the judge, you have to actually read the criminal code and quote it to the judge. Your gut feeling what the criminal code says is not good enough.

In addition, the Court is asking if those acts WERE defined as a crime in Serbia's criminal code in 1999, not now. So your writing that they ARE a crime, is a useless one for the Haradinaj's extradition case.

It's certainly not outlandish for somebody to believe that the killing of civilians was not a crime in Serbia in 1999, given that members of the Serbian armed forces targeted and killed civilians with impunity in 1999 in Serbia. So, it's perfectly legitimate for the French court to want to verify what Serbia's criminal code defined as crimes in 1999.

Poor France... Trying to find a legal loophole so as not to extradite the suspect without appearing to condone or aid terrorism. If this man was a Serb facing trial for war crimes, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago. Disgusting French hypocrites.

French are working overtime to help criminals! No wonder that France is falling apart.

O my, O my, we Serb's need to cross all of our " T's " and dot all of our " i's " don't we ???

Of course, the court would have had him extradited weeks ago if there were sufficient evidence to support the extradition. So where is the hypocrisy?!
(icj1, 11 March 2017 04:13)

To icj1,
Tell that to šešelj and his 12 years in jail ,and then found NOT GUILTY.
The Serbian Nelson Mandela . Even before his trial there was no evidence for his fake crimes. During his trial ,no witness where killed,let alone 6 for your hero.
How biased are you ? ,Have a look at yourself ))

icj - Please list the terrible crimes that Seselj was convicted of. I've asked you this previously and you continue to dodge the question. What's wrong icj, cat got your tongue?

This seems to be a pattern. I ask you questions and you run away. That speaks volumes about you.

From the Serb-hater icj: "It's certainly not outlandish for somebody to believe that the killing of civilians was not a crime in Serbia in 1999, given that members of the Serbian armed forces targeted and killed civilians with impunity in 1999 in Serbia."

Then I guess you are also of the opinion that it's not outlandish that the killing of Serbian civilians was not a crime in Croatia in 1995 as close to three thousand Serbs were killed in the newly established independent Croatia during Operation Storm and to date no one has been convicted of any crimes although Serb women, children and the elderly were butchered. Right icj? Or don't crimes against Serbs count in you book? You are a racist coward!!!

Icj1-
Go back to the kitchen woman where you belong and stay away from the politics

For the record Seselj was not found guilty by the Hague Tribunal on an charges be they war crimes or any other charges.
(sj, 13 March 2017 10:08)

Oh, that's great. So, I assume that the CE of B92 forums sj has ordered the Hague Tribunal to reverse the following judgements where Seselj was found guilty and convicted to a total of 4,75 years imprisonment:

19 May 2010 - 15 months imprisonment http://www.icty.org/x/cases/contempt_seselj/acjug/en/100519_ajudg.pdf

28 Nov 2012 - 18 months imprisonment http://www.icty.org/x/cases/contempt_seselj2/acjug/en/121128_judgement.pdf

30 May 2013 - 2 years imprisonment http://www.icty.org/x/cases/contempt_seselj3/acjug/en/130530_judgement.pdf

If the Hague Tribunal refuses to follow the orders of the CE of B92 forums sj and reverse the above convictions, the UN Security Council must immediately act to punish the Hague Tribunal's judges for their refusal to obey the orders of the CE of B92 forums sj.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

It's certainly not outlandish for somebody to believe that the killing of civilians was not a crime in Serbia in 1999, given that members of the Serbian armed forces targeted and killed civilians with impunity in 1999 in Serbia.
(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:10)

Then I guess you are also of the opinion that it's not outlandish that the killing of Serbian civilians was not a crime in Croatia in 1995 as close to three thousand Serbs were killed
(njegos, 13 March 2017 15:08)

Of course, I'd be of that opinion if the facts that you allege are proven beyond reasonable doubt like it was proven beyond reasonable doubt by the UN that some of the leaders of the VJ or MUP committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in Kosovo in 1999.
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Or don't crimes against Serbs count in you book? You are a racist coward!!!
(njegos, 13 March 2017 15:08)

Of course the crimes against Serbs count in my book, like the crimes against any person, regardless of ethnicity - I've already said that before. Just because you are a racist and hate Serbs, it does not mean that everybody is a racist and hates Serbs like you do.

"Contempt" That's what Seselj was convcited of?? HAHAHA! You portrayed him as a war criminal, a monster, an evil human being! And after 12 years your beloved Hague could only nail him on 'contempt' charges? Too funny, icj. So you must now admit that Seselj IS NOT A WAR CRIMINAL, right? Come on type the words for all of us icj. Can you overcome your hatred of Serbs to admit that Seselj is NOT A WAR CRIMINAL? Come on icj, it'll be good for your soul. You know what they say, the truth will set you free...even a Serb-hater like you. LOL!!

You portrayed him as a war criminal, a monster, an evil human being!
(njegos, 14 March 2017 18:55)

I can only find a certain "njegos" here writing about somebody being "a war criminal, a monster, an evil human being" so I guess by "you", you mean "njegos".
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So you must now admit that Seselj IS NOT A WAR CRIMINAL, right?
(njegos, 14 March 2017 18:55)

Let us know what's the answer once you clarify that with said "njegos". Nobody, other that this certain "njegos", wrote anything on this page about a certain Seselj being or not being a war criminal.

HAHAHA! The issue here icj is your feeble attempt to portray Serbs in a negative light every chance you get. You obfuscate, deflect and mislead. You've cut and pasted other's words to change the meaning of posts. You are a deceitful small person. And when when you are challenged on your positions, you fold and run away. You harp about justice, but never criticize the Hague for stealing 12 years of Seselj's life. And for what, 'contempt'? You've tried unsuccessfully in the past to equate Serb wrongdoing with the Croatian Ustasha crimes during WWII. You claimed that Zagreb wasn't bombed by the Nazis because it wasn't the capital of Yugoslavia! Remember that one icj? I'm still LMAO at that one!

You are a Croatian apologist and revisionist of the highest order. And I'll ask again one of the many, many questions that I've asked of you in the past that you've failed to answer in icj cowardly fashion, how many of your relatives were Ustasha during WWII? Surely you're proud of that dark period of your ancestry.

From icj: "Sorry mate, but the Court is asking whether the acts that Serbia alleges Haradinaj committed were defined as crimes by Serbia's criminal code."

I'm quite sure the killing of civilians and the beheading of a baby are crimes according to Serbia's criminal code just as they are in most civilized societies. Funny icj didn't make one peep about Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes! Thus demonstrating his/her hatred toward Serbs with no real concern for justice! Your hypocrisy is astounding!

From icj: " I'm not sure whose questions are still outstanding"

Keep running away icj. When one can't defend one's position, one runs away. You are a racist coward! It's been great exposing you as the fraud that you are! It's getting easier with each of your indefensible posts. LOL!

Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes!
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

A certain "njegos" wrote earlier [link] that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES", but now you're saying that Seselj was only "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes". So whom of the "njegos" should we believe?!
(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:24)

This seems to be a pattern. I ask you questions and you run away. That speaks volumes about you.
(njegos, 13 March 2017 14:59)

Well, I'm not sure who you are. There appear to be several njegos here writing different things, so I'm not sure whose questions are still outstanding lol

Can you confirm who of the different njegos you are and what are your questions?
(icj1, 14 March 2017 15:46)

When one can't defend one's position, one runs away
(njegos, 14 March 2017 16:12)

Exactly, that explains why this certain njegos run away from his/her original writing that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES" to the new writing that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes" only.

(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:24)

I'd say njegos and nejegos would have to declare you an idiot after posting such a dumb response LOL. Talk about knit picking at its best. You need to change your style as it’s getting a tad old and tiring. You’re not good at this at all mate.
For the record Seselj was not found guilty by the Hague Tribunal on an charges be they war crimes or any other charges.

Seselj being held for 12 years only to be found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes!
(njegos, 11 March 2017 15:43)

A certain "njegos" wrote earlier http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=100654#k477322 that Seselj was "found NOT GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES", but now you're saying that Seselj was only "found NOT GUILTY on all charges of war crimes". So whom of the "njegos" should we believe?!
(icj1, 12 March 2017 16:24)

This seems to be a pattern. I ask you questions and you run away. That speaks volumes about you.
(njegos, 13 March 2017 14:59)

Well, I'm not sure who you are. There appear to be several njegos here writing different things, so I'm not sure whose questions are still outstanding lol

Can you confirm who of the different njegos you are and what are your questions?

Someone here thnks killing children, civilians and unarmed persons during war time is not a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions. Can you guess who he is???