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Thursday, 09.02.2017.

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"Is Ivica Dacic now in Macedonia - or in FYROM?"

"Did Ivica 'we're fools for recognizing you' Dacic arrive in Macedonia, or in FYROM?," asked Macedonia's Meta agency, as quoted by Beta on Thursday.

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michael danias

pre 7 godina

Gruevskis has spend too much time on his antiquization program creating a false history via his Las Vegas style 2014 program. By creating the myth which has permeated all levels of Slavic Macedonia's uneducated society he has alienated the Albanians. Let us not forget that Albanians are indigenous to this territory and as such have the right to determine their identity and language. They either change their name and destroy their cheap Italian reproduction statues and become an inclusive society or the country will disintegrate. Had Gruevski not forged along with brainwashing of his population and his cultural theft, Slavic Macedonia would have been a productive member of Europe. The Albanians are on standby. 2001 was merely a warning. The USA has proven loyalty to the Albanians in Kosovo. They would not hesitate to fund an offensive against Slavic Macedonia in the name of selling arms. Gruevski through rejection desperately gravitates towards Russia.They need to change their name. They need to remove all reference to antiquity.They need to make friends with their neighbors. Politicians like Ljubo Georgievski and Zoran Zaev, although extremely different to each other, offer hope. The Slavic population must swallow their pride and listen to the world. Irredentist and antiquization platforms need to be eradicated.They either work with their minority groups or the territory will be partitioned via a nasty civil war.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

Stavre, can you have a DNA test please. I'll give you my house if you don't come up Slavic.
Also advise what language you spoke before Bulgarian. Can you read and write it. Is it similar to the Greek that the ancient Macedonians spoke? Is it indo European? Did your grandmother speak it to your family donkey? Can I buy a book that teaches me Macedonian language. Can I buy vulgar replicas of your Italian made statues in Skopje . Can I go on an Ancient Macedonian goat ride in Bitola?

stavre

pre 7 godina

@Michael Danias -- If you think I'm uncomfortable acknowledging that my forefathers spoke Bulgarian and went to Bulgarian churches, you're wrong. I'm proud of my history and that I don't need to reach back 2,000+ years to prove some kind of connection to Macedonia, like you/Greece does. Nothing changes the fact that my predecessors identified as Macedonians and with Macedonia -- that's called 'nationalism', because we have a history that is linked to, but separate from, Bulgaria proper.

What you should ask yourself is not what language Alexander the Great spoke, but why VMRO was founded in Solun (present-day Thessaloniki), and not in Sofia or Skopje. You should also ask yourself why almost every single major northern Greek town -- Kilkis, Serres, Edessa, Kastoria, Drama -- was given to Bulgaria in 1878 (Treaty of San Stefano), and why they were given to Greece only after the 'western powers' realized they didn't want Russia controlling the Aegean. This didn't happen in 300 BC -- it happened fairly recently, which is what should make you uncomfortable, not me.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

Out of curiosity stavre can you define what your original language, religion and alphabet were before the Serbs distorted them. Were you pagan? Was your alphabet Greek? Was your language Doric Greek. Please explain for I don't understand

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

he quicker they give the Albanians what they want with their official language demands the better off this so called country will be. The social democrats should form a coalition with the Albanian parties and rid them of the irredentist and corrupt VMRO-DPMNE party. Name change should be demanded by the EU and Slavic culture should be promoted again. “We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Great and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD).” Kiro Gligorov – the first president elect of Fyrom

Hank

pre 7 godina

Fyrom are Bulgarians and they speak Bulgarian. Ancient Macedonians are Greeks speaking Greek and always have claimed to be Greeks. Serbia and the rest of the world has to do the right thing by calling them FYROM only!

andrew

pre 7 godina

Real cousins in Bulgaria.

Stavre

This is not news,it's common knowledge.If one is to believe the Bulgarian Focus News as many as 200k of your compatriots have discovered their Bulgarian ancestry and rewarded with a passport-including ministers and other polititians.Serbs don't need you to tell them to stick with the Greeks.We know our brothers and they always stick by us.

Stavre

pre 7 godina

"Macedonia" is name that existed long before "Servia" was ever uttered by a human being. As for being 'push overs' -- I agree 100% that we have been, as a nation, push overs for too long, including when we allowed Serbia to rename our homeland 'Southern Serbia' and 'Vardarska Banovina', and later to bastardize our alphabet, language and faith.

Macedonia doesn't need friends like that, and it has its own problems to take care of, so Serbia should continue to look to Greece and Greece only for an ally in the Balkans. Maybe Macedonians are finally waking up... Hopefully they start looking east toward their 'real' cousins in Bulgaria.

Vuk

pre 7 godina

@Stavre
What are Slavs of FYROM like? Weak, pushovers, no pride and do what others tell them. At least Serbs are capable people and have an authentic history.

andrew

pre 7 godina

Stavre

So is Serbia.Since the eu uses the name fyrom we should revert to this name and lets see how you're going to feel about it.

Stavre

pre 7 godina

Serbs have to be the funniest, most illogical, spiteful people in the world... YOU / YOUR POLITICIANS lost Kosovo, so why the hell are you angry at Macedonia?! Get your act together, regain Kosovo and it's guaranteed that Macedonia will recognize that new reality at the relevant time... if not, then Macedonia is entitled to do as the rest of Europe has done, and recognize the reality that Serbia has lost Kosovo -- a reality for which Serbia has only itself to blame!

Smart Serb

pre 7 godina

FYROMacedonians will have to recognize the fact that 50% of their population is Albanian cockroaches which one day will breakaway leaving FYROM the size of Liechtenstein. Hahaha

andrew

pre 7 godina

Dacic should grow a pair and tell those backstabing fyromians that Serbia should annul its previous recognition and use the UN description FYROM.

andrew

pre 7 godina

Dacic should grow a pair and tell those backstabing fyromians that Serbia should annul its previous recognition and use the UN description FYROM.

Hank

pre 7 godina

Fyrom are Bulgarians and they speak Bulgarian. Ancient Macedonians are Greeks speaking Greek and always have claimed to be Greeks. Serbia and the rest of the world has to do the right thing by calling them FYROM only!

Smart Serb

pre 7 godina

FYROMacedonians will have to recognize the fact that 50% of their population is Albanian cockroaches which one day will breakaway leaving FYROM the size of Liechtenstein. Hahaha

Stavre

pre 7 godina

Serbs have to be the funniest, most illogical, spiteful people in the world... YOU / YOUR POLITICIANS lost Kosovo, so why the hell are you angry at Macedonia?! Get your act together, regain Kosovo and it's guaranteed that Macedonia will recognize that new reality at the relevant time... if not, then Macedonia is entitled to do as the rest of Europe has done, and recognize the reality that Serbia has lost Kosovo -- a reality for which Serbia has only itself to blame!

Stavre

pre 7 godina

"Macedonia" is name that existed long before "Servia" was ever uttered by a human being. As for being 'push overs' -- I agree 100% that we have been, as a nation, push overs for too long, including when we allowed Serbia to rename our homeland 'Southern Serbia' and 'Vardarska Banovina', and later to bastardize our alphabet, language and faith.

Macedonia doesn't need friends like that, and it has its own problems to take care of, so Serbia should continue to look to Greece and Greece only for an ally in the Balkans. Maybe Macedonians are finally waking up... Hopefully they start looking east toward their 'real' cousins in Bulgaria.

andrew

pre 7 godina

Real cousins in Bulgaria.

Stavre

This is not news,it's common knowledge.If one is to believe the Bulgarian Focus News as many as 200k of your compatriots have discovered their Bulgarian ancestry and rewarded with a passport-including ministers and other polititians.Serbs don't need you to tell them to stick with the Greeks.We know our brothers and they always stick by us.

andrew

pre 7 godina

Stavre

So is Serbia.Since the eu uses the name fyrom we should revert to this name and lets see how you're going to feel about it.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

he quicker they give the Albanians what they want with their official language demands the better off this so called country will be. The social democrats should form a coalition with the Albanian parties and rid them of the irredentist and corrupt VMRO-DPMNE party. Name change should be demanded by the EU and Slavic culture should be promoted again. “We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Great and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD).” Kiro Gligorov – the first president elect of Fyrom

Vuk

pre 7 godina

@Stavre
What are Slavs of FYROM like? Weak, pushovers, no pride and do what others tell them. At least Serbs are capable people and have an authentic history.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

Out of curiosity stavre can you define what your original language, religion and alphabet were before the Serbs distorted them. Were you pagan? Was your alphabet Greek? Was your language Doric Greek. Please explain for I don't understand

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

Stavre, can you have a DNA test please. I'll give you my house if you don't come up Slavic.
Also advise what language you spoke before Bulgarian. Can you read and write it. Is it similar to the Greek that the ancient Macedonians spoke? Is it indo European? Did your grandmother speak it to your family donkey? Can I buy a book that teaches me Macedonian language. Can I buy vulgar replicas of your Italian made statues in Skopje . Can I go on an Ancient Macedonian goat ride in Bitola?

stavre

pre 7 godina

@Michael Danias -- If you think I'm uncomfortable acknowledging that my forefathers spoke Bulgarian and went to Bulgarian churches, you're wrong. I'm proud of my history and that I don't need to reach back 2,000+ years to prove some kind of connection to Macedonia, like you/Greece does. Nothing changes the fact that my predecessors identified as Macedonians and with Macedonia -- that's called 'nationalism', because we have a history that is linked to, but separate from, Bulgaria proper.

What you should ask yourself is not what language Alexander the Great spoke, but why VMRO was founded in Solun (present-day Thessaloniki), and not in Sofia or Skopje. You should also ask yourself why almost every single major northern Greek town -- Kilkis, Serres, Edessa, Kastoria, Drama -- was given to Bulgaria in 1878 (Treaty of San Stefano), and why they were given to Greece only after the 'western powers' realized they didn't want Russia controlling the Aegean. This didn't happen in 300 BC -- it happened fairly recently, which is what should make you uncomfortable, not me.

michael danias

pre 7 godina

Gruevskis has spend too much time on his antiquization program creating a false history via his Las Vegas style 2014 program. By creating the myth which has permeated all levels of Slavic Macedonia's uneducated society he has alienated the Albanians. Let us not forget that Albanians are indigenous to this territory and as such have the right to determine their identity and language. They either change their name and destroy their cheap Italian reproduction statues and become an inclusive society or the country will disintegrate. Had Gruevski not forged along with brainwashing of his population and his cultural theft, Slavic Macedonia would have been a productive member of Europe. The Albanians are on standby. 2001 was merely a warning. The USA has proven loyalty to the Albanians in Kosovo. They would not hesitate to fund an offensive against Slavic Macedonia in the name of selling arms. Gruevski through rejection desperately gravitates towards Russia.They need to change their name. They need to remove all reference to antiquity.They need to make friends with their neighbors. Politicians like Ljubo Georgievski and Zoran Zaev, although extremely different to each other, offer hope. The Slavic population must swallow their pride and listen to the world. Irredentist and antiquization platforms need to be eradicated.They either work with their minority groups or the territory will be partitioned via a nasty civil war.

andrew

pre 7 godina

Dacic should grow a pair and tell those backstabing fyromians that Serbia should annul its previous recognition and use the UN description FYROM.

Stavre

pre 7 godina

Serbs have to be the funniest, most illogical, spiteful people in the world... YOU / YOUR POLITICIANS lost Kosovo, so why the hell are you angry at Macedonia?! Get your act together, regain Kosovo and it's guaranteed that Macedonia will recognize that new reality at the relevant time... if not, then Macedonia is entitled to do as the rest of Europe has done, and recognize the reality that Serbia has lost Kosovo -- a reality for which Serbia has only itself to blame!

Stavre

pre 7 godina

"Macedonia" is name that existed long before "Servia" was ever uttered by a human being. As for being 'push overs' -- I agree 100% that we have been, as a nation, push overs for too long, including when we allowed Serbia to rename our homeland 'Southern Serbia' and 'Vardarska Banovina', and later to bastardize our alphabet, language and faith.

Macedonia doesn't need friends like that, and it has its own problems to take care of, so Serbia should continue to look to Greece and Greece only for an ally in the Balkans. Maybe Macedonians are finally waking up... Hopefully they start looking east toward their 'real' cousins in Bulgaria.

Smart Serb

pre 7 godina

FYROMacedonians will have to recognize the fact that 50% of their population is Albanian cockroaches which one day will breakaway leaving FYROM the size of Liechtenstein. Hahaha

Vuk

pre 7 godina

@Stavre
What are Slavs of FYROM like? Weak, pushovers, no pride and do what others tell them. At least Serbs are capable people and have an authentic history.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

he quicker they give the Albanians what they want with their official language demands the better off this so called country will be. The social democrats should form a coalition with the Albanian parties and rid them of the irredentist and corrupt VMRO-DPMNE party. Name change should be demanded by the EU and Slavic culture should be promoted again. “We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Great and his Macedonia. The ancient Macedonians no longer exist, they had disappeared from history long time ago. Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (AD).” Kiro Gligorov – the first president elect of Fyrom

stavre

pre 7 godina

@Michael Danias -- If you think I'm uncomfortable acknowledging that my forefathers spoke Bulgarian and went to Bulgarian churches, you're wrong. I'm proud of my history and that I don't need to reach back 2,000+ years to prove some kind of connection to Macedonia, like you/Greece does. Nothing changes the fact that my predecessors identified as Macedonians and with Macedonia -- that's called 'nationalism', because we have a history that is linked to, but separate from, Bulgaria proper.

What you should ask yourself is not what language Alexander the Great spoke, but why VMRO was founded in Solun (present-day Thessaloniki), and not in Sofia or Skopje. You should also ask yourself why almost every single major northern Greek town -- Kilkis, Serres, Edessa, Kastoria, Drama -- was given to Bulgaria in 1878 (Treaty of San Stefano), and why they were given to Greece only after the 'western powers' realized they didn't want Russia controlling the Aegean. This didn't happen in 300 BC -- it happened fairly recently, which is what should make you uncomfortable, not me.

andrew

pre 7 godina

Real cousins in Bulgaria.

Stavre

This is not news,it's common knowledge.If one is to believe the Bulgarian Focus News as many as 200k of your compatriots have discovered their Bulgarian ancestry and rewarded with a passport-including ministers and other polititians.Serbs don't need you to tell them to stick with the Greeks.We know our brothers and they always stick by us.

Hank

pre 7 godina

Fyrom are Bulgarians and they speak Bulgarian. Ancient Macedonians are Greeks speaking Greek and always have claimed to be Greeks. Serbia and the rest of the world has to do the right thing by calling them FYROM only!

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

Out of curiosity stavre can you define what your original language, religion and alphabet were before the Serbs distorted them. Were you pagan? Was your alphabet Greek? Was your language Doric Greek. Please explain for I don't understand

andrew

pre 7 godina

Stavre

So is Serbia.Since the eu uses the name fyrom we should revert to this name and lets see how you're going to feel about it.

Michael danias

pre 7 godina

Stavre, can you have a DNA test please. I'll give you my house if you don't come up Slavic.
Also advise what language you spoke before Bulgarian. Can you read and write it. Is it similar to the Greek that the ancient Macedonians spoke? Is it indo European? Did your grandmother speak it to your family donkey? Can I buy a book that teaches me Macedonian language. Can I buy vulgar replicas of your Italian made statues in Skopje . Can I go on an Ancient Macedonian goat ride in Bitola?

michael danias

pre 7 godina

Gruevskis has spend too much time on his antiquization program creating a false history via his Las Vegas style 2014 program. By creating the myth which has permeated all levels of Slavic Macedonia's uneducated society he has alienated the Albanians. Let us not forget that Albanians are indigenous to this territory and as such have the right to determine their identity and language. They either change their name and destroy their cheap Italian reproduction statues and become an inclusive society or the country will disintegrate. Had Gruevski not forged along with brainwashing of his population and his cultural theft, Slavic Macedonia would have been a productive member of Europe. The Albanians are on standby. 2001 was merely a warning. The USA has proven loyalty to the Albanians in Kosovo. They would not hesitate to fund an offensive against Slavic Macedonia in the name of selling arms. Gruevski through rejection desperately gravitates towards Russia.They need to change their name. They need to remove all reference to antiquity.They need to make friends with their neighbors. Politicians like Ljubo Georgievski and Zoran Zaev, although extremely different to each other, offer hope. The Slavic population must swallow their pride and listen to the world. Irredentist and antiquization platforms need to be eradicated.They either work with their minority groups or the territory will be partitioned via a nasty civil war.