OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU?
(rote, 28 January 2017 17:46)
Well, say whatever you want dear - you don't have to satisfy me about anything lol I just pointed out that you should be ashamed for your comment on 26 January 2017 20:00 where you forgot the sacrifices of your 38 family members who bravely fought the Axis countries during WW2!
(icj1, 29 January 2017 00:48)
Do you understand that I know about WW2 100 times more than you do because I feel it on my skin?
(rote, 29 January 2017 15:59)
Of course you do, I never questioned that you are a brilliant historian. But next time don't forget that Russia, too, fought the Axis countries during WW2!
1/ Do you agree that the two Yugoslavian armies composed mostly of the Serbs fought the fascists 4 times longer than the US&Co did?
2/ Do you agree that before May 1944 on the battlefield the USSR had no ally other than the two Serbian armies?
3/ Do you agree that on the Balkans there was only one people who made WW2 it national war and a personal vendetta war?
4/ Do you agree that even if the 20 000 figure was correct even in this case the Shqiptars made 3-4% of the partizan movement on the Balkans while Serbs made at least 80% ?
5/ Do you understand that I know about WW2 100 times more than you do because I feel it on my skin?
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2
(rote, 26 January 2017 20:00)
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2", thus omitting the fact that your relatives fought, as well!
(icj1, 28 January 2017 01:51)
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU?
(rote, 28 January 2017 17:46)
Well, say whatever you want dear - you don't have to satisfy me about anything lol I just pointed out that you should be ashamed for your comment on 26 January 2017 20:00 where you forgot the sacrifices of your 38 family members who bravely fought the Axis countries during WW2!
icj1 : Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2"
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU? AND BY THE WAY ALSO ON THIS PAGE I'VE PLACED THE FOLLOWING :
"... Balkans where Serbs were the backbone of the resistance movement. And am aware that they cooperated with the Shqiptar partizans. In fact I do believe that things uniting you are bigger than those dividing you with the Serbs.
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
I COULD SAY THAT SHQIPTAR PARTISANS MADE 3-4% OF THE TWO SERBIAN ARMIES ... BUT I DIDN'T ... I THINK I WAS POSITIVE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE ANOTHER BARK OF HATRED. DON'T YOU FIND IT ?
As far Serbs: -in 7th century we have settled KosMet
(RighteousBilly, 27 January 2017 13:02)
Great and before then it was Romans that had settled KosMet and so on... so not sure what your point is! I hope you are aware that time did not start in the 7th century :)
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2
(rote, 26 January 2017 20:00)
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2", thus omitting the fact that your relatives fought, as well!
In an Afghan anecdote (hekayat) a Camel was told that his neck was not straight (uh ta wail che ghara di kaga da) and he responded the with WHICH PART OF ME IS STRAIGHT (wa de wail che kum dzai mi sam dyi) ? It means that there's no sence to criticize part of something if the whole thing is wrong. It's about your comment full of bs statements and declarations. Be it so and we shall see which of was wrong.
My dear rote if you are not an expert on Balkan then you shouldn't talk, or better educate yourself. Russia have intention to help the wrong side again, the right side will wait its turn.... Is what happened in these centuries and it will happened again. No we won't give nothing. Those are not Serbian lands never were. I have the facts and you have not, you can't even convince neither yourself. Those churches were and still are in middle of Albanian villages, and Albanians protect them all even after convert in Muslims. So is to see for who were built! And no, forget it, Rama will negociate a sh..t we don't negociate our lands, a lot of Albanians in 500 years gived their life for it! So forget it! The Albanian people say NO! You have to kill us all, or we will have our turn soon or latter. Albania gov.had not learned yet that we never must live in peace, but she is arming herself now. To late! Hoxha know that this will happened but unfortunately he is dead, but another one will take its place. Serbia have no shame or respect the only language she understand is the language of fear, so is better to be armed to teath. Is not to late! 🖕🖕
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts so I already knew the news. In one of our families father and 4 his sons were killed in this war ... So when I wrote it I meant the region of the Balkans where Serbs were the backbone of the resistance movement. And am aware that they cooperated with the Shqiptar partizans. In fact I do believe that things uniting you are bigger than those dividing you with the Serbs.
Well I am not an expert in the Balkan wars but I know that de facto Albania did not exist at the time yet. So word STOLE is not good here. Besides only KIM is discussed here and no lands of Albania are questioned. Kosovo is the Holy Land of the Serbs and the Russians - axioma. So when you behave as THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL you go under the risk that the other side will accept your rules. See how fast the things are changed lately while Pristina behaves like 5 -7 years ago. Kosovo may be occupied in one day if Donbass army is involved. It will be a proxy war where Russia will not be involved directly. Maybe a couple of brigades from northern Caucasus to save the Muslims. If you remember peace came to Crimea when a Chechen batalion was deployed and the Tatars understood that jokes were over. So I think that Shqiptars should be not simply flexible but VERY FLEXIBLE. Otherwise you will have to face the Serbs and the Russians and nobody will come to help you. Even KFOR will abandon the region. Every next government in Belgrade will be more nationalistic so don't waste your time to reach a compromise. Maybe Moscow already told Belgrade to raise the stakes. The US will need several years to reload their guns and Russia may use the moment. Trust me I wouldn't like us to fight the Whites. Rama should seek peace in Belgrade to save the situation. Lands must be divided taking in account the regugees in Serbia and the whole town of Mitrovtsa plus our churches and monasteries.
"trong” enough now to be fear. But, wait … wait and see in the future....
Why do Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro will fear us, we are not threatening them, we are not even strong enough - In psychology is called: The fear of “ The thief”!
Why we don't fear none of our neighbors?
Serbia all the time is in fear! Serbia is a nation who stole from Albanians – Kosovo in 1913-14, from Hungarians – Vojvodina 1918, and Bosnians with the help of Russia.
But please you are free to show to us , when and where Albanians stole something from Serbia? Facts rote, facts … NONEEEEE…NONEEEE..
Here you have what Serbia stole, and what she did with your help!
[link]
Here the facts that why those territories never were Serbian. Russia create the mess in Balkan and still is. so we all have to thank Russia for this.
[link](1915)"
Joni, we were never afraid of you, it was and is vice versa.
As far Serbs:
-in 7th century we have settled KosMet and Drim valley(modern N. Albania) by byzantine sources (you were mentioned for the first time in 11th century by the same sources);
-At the end of 17th century migration of Serbs and Albanian occupation of KosMet, central Serbia and even Bulgaria
-1912 liberation of KosMet (Bulgarians and Serbs send back Albanian occupants
Vojvodina was settled in 17th century by the same Serbs (you dont know that Slavs had lived in Panonian basin before arrival of Hungarians)
@ rote
There is a main reason why all our neighbors fear Albania and Albanians! Serbia in particular – with the obsession of Greater Albania – or Natural Albania, I will say. Well, we are even ‘strong” enough now to be fear. But, wait … wait and see in the future....
Why do Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro will fear us, we are not threatening them, we are not even strong enough - In psychology is called: The fear of “ The thief”!
Why we don't fear none of our neighbors?
Serbia all the time is in fear! Serbia is a nation who stole from Albanians – Kosovo in 1913-14, from Hungarians – Vojvodina 1918, and Bosnians with the help of Russia.
But please you are free to show to us , when and where Albanians stole something from Serbia? Facts rote, facts … NONEEEEE…NONEEEE..
Here you have what Serbia stole, and what she did with your help!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Conference_of_1912%E2%80%9313
Here the facts that why those territories never were Serbian. Russia create the mess in Balkan and still is. so we all have to thank Russia for this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1915)
Well, Serbia is the only country in the Balkans arguing over something with most of its neighbours since 2000... Are you saying that it is the fault of the Albanians for Serbia destabilizing the Balkans?
(icj1, 26 January 2017 15:43)
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2 and that's why it was avenged at the first opportunity. Serbia is the only country that was robbed so you will live on this powder barrel until we come to take back our lands. thats why VENDETTA is the Serbian and Russian for REMEMBER.
Except it's Albanians who rush off to join ISIS and destabilize the Balkans since 2000.
(Navi, 26 January 2017 00:28)
Well, Serbia is the only country in the Balkans arguing over something with most of its neighbours since 2000... Are you saying that it is the fault of the Albanians for Serbia destabilizing the Balkans?
Albanians in the southern Serbia are armed to the teeth (guess by who) everybody knows this, the dirtiest business happens there. The thing is, they dont want peace, they like living in that chaos, thats their way of life.
They have the greatest community rights guaranteed by the Serbian constitution, yet they choose to be a tool of USA.
Hey Ratko: I didn't say they are Islamist you made it up. I tell you right now who they are UCK is and was Army who fought your Terrorist Serbian Army when they came to Kosovo and killed women and children Year 98/99. AKSH is Army to protect All Albanians Lands they go when every they need it. And FSK is Kosovens Best Army you like it or not hopefully you understand now.
serbs in the northern Kosova are armed to the teeth (guess by who) everybody knows this, the dirtiest business happens there. The thing is, they dont want peace, they like living in that chaos, thats their way of life.
They have the greatest community rights guaranteed by the Kosova constitution, yet they choose to be a tool of Belgrade.
"Instead of calls for war from Serbia, I'm calling the Kosovo Serbs to peace and dialogue. Instead of ethnic and territorial partition I call on them to join NATO and the EU," Thaci told Deutsche Welle.
-- He means well, even if he has no idea what he's talking about and is speaking on behalf of a people who want nothing to do with him or his government.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE SHQIPTARS WILL REPEAT SHEKER SHEKER RUSSIAN STANCE OVER KOSOVO EVENTS DOESN'T CHANGE AN INCH. ALL STEPS WERE REGISTERED AND REPEATED AS THEY ONCE HAPPENED. MOREOVER I CAN SEE THAT THE RUSSIAN ATTITUDE IS MUCH TOUGHER THAN THE SERBIAN ONE. WHAT I CAN HERE IN RUSSIA IS SAME AS SESELJ IS SAYING IN SERBIA.
Bivši britanski vojnik UÇK-a poručio Kosovarima: Spremite oružje...!
http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/kosovo/74269/bivsi-britanski-vojnik-uck-a-porucio-kosovarima-spremite-oruzje
Can't we see we are just pawns for the west. All Balkan people are. They care nothing for us. Thaci speaks of people having self determination but yet why can't North Kosovo being self determine, why can't Bosnian Serbs. It is simple. The west needs an insurance policy just in case they need war in the Balkans. That is the ONLY reason they wont partion along ethnic lines because it would bring permanent peace and they cannot have that. They need minorities in Majority areas to flick the switch so easily just in case they need war, and we are so stupid that we allow them. Time for Balkans to unite in trade and peace. Time for us to expel the West and Russia too for that matter. We can solve this ourselves. Peacefully...
Serbs are tough wen the fight women and children , Old people and handcuff teenagers . We the (kos-alb) want weapons to...
(Ilyrian, 25 January 2017 16:32)
No, that's what Albanians do. For God's sake you people are so unoriginal you even steal other people's stereotypes they use for you.
Its not a secret anymore, the Russians have sold, and donated arms to Serbia to protect it self and will use them in the up coming months to regain Kosovo, no more support from the USA, Serbia's land was stolen and they will take it back forcefully as they should, the Albanian leadership in Kosovo needs to realize their days are numbered.
Thaci and his paramilitary were the only ones who decided to move armed formations in a ethnically homogenous manner. The communications, movement and logistical command during this event have provided invaluable intelligence for subsequent tactical exercises.
Serbian government played same type of game with Croatia now with Kosovo but serbs know very well what happened in Croatia they got wiped out by Croatians army and Croatian people if Serbs continue doing this they may have same faith in Kosovo. We have 3 groups waiting to go to Mitrovica UCK,AKSH, and FSK
Well Thaci, get off your AZZ and find a way of arming the Albanian inhabited part of southern Serbia Preshevo, bujonavac, Medveja!!!
Also, in the process don't forget the majority Albanians of western Macedonia as the day will come when they will need to defend themselves as well!!!
(Peter the Rocky Mountains, 25 January 2017 14:09)
You tried both of those in 2001. In Presevo, you got your asses kicked by a joint NATO-VS counter-terrorism strike. In Macedonia the Europe intervened to shut that Greater Albania sh!t down and got you to sign the Ohrid Agreement.
Try to keep up with events in the region you think you're a part of, ok? You're sounding more and more clueless with every rant and rave you belch out around here.
PS - Stick to just "Rocky". "Peter the Rocky" and "Peter the Rocky Mountains" simply demonstrates your inability to know English even though you've been living in the US for most of your life, Mr. Cimaj.
Well Thaci, get off your AZZ and find a way of arming the Albanian inhabited part of southern Serbia Preshevo, bujonavac, Medveja!!!
Also, in the process don't forget the majority Albanians of western Macedonia as the day will come when they will need to defend themselves as well!!!
Well Thaci, get off your AZZ and find a way of arming the Albanian inhabited part of southern Serbia Preshevo, bujonavac, Medveja!!!
Also, in the process don't forget the majority Albanians of western Macedonia as the day will come when they will need to defend themselves as well!!!
(Peter the Rocky Mountains, 25 January 2017 14:09)
You tried both of those in 2001. In Presevo, you got your asses kicked by a joint NATO-VS counter-terrorism strike. In Macedonia the Europe intervened to shut that Greater Albania sh!t down and got you to sign the Ohrid Agreement.
Try to keep up with events in the region you think you're a part of, ok? You're sounding more and more clueless with every rant and rave you belch out around here.
PS - Stick to just "Rocky". "Peter the Rocky" and "Peter the Rocky Mountains" simply demonstrates your inability to know English even though you've been living in the US for most of your life, Mr. Cimaj.
Well Thaci, get off your AZZ and find a way of arming the Albanian inhabited part of southern Serbia Preshevo, bujonavac, Medveja!!!
Also, in the process don't forget the majority Albanians of western Macedonia as the day will come when they will need to defend themselves as well!!!
Serbian government played same type of game with Croatia now with Kosovo but serbs know very well what happened in Croatia they got wiped out by Croatians army and Croatian people if Serbs continue doing this they may have same faith in Kosovo. We have 3 groups waiting to go to Mitrovica UCK,AKSH, and FSK
Thaci and his paramilitary were the only ones who decided to move armed formations in a ethnically homogenous manner. The communications, movement and logistical command during this event have provided invaluable intelligence for subsequent tactical exercises.
serbs in the northern Kosova are armed to the teeth (guess by who) everybody knows this, the dirtiest business happens there. The thing is, they dont want peace, they like living in that chaos, thats their way of life.
They have the greatest community rights guaranteed by the Kosova constitution, yet they choose to be a tool of Belgrade.
Serbs are tough wen the fight women and children , Old people and handcuff teenagers . We the (kos-alb) want weapons to...
(Ilyrian, 25 January 2017 16:32)
No, that's what Albanians do. For God's sake you people are so unoriginal you even steal other people's stereotypes they use for you.
Its not a secret anymore, the Russians have sold, and donated arms to Serbia to protect it self and will use them in the up coming months to regain Kosovo, no more support from the USA, Serbia's land was stolen and they will take it back forcefully as they should, the Albanian leadership in Kosovo needs to realize their days are numbered.
Can't we see we are just pawns for the west. All Balkan people are. They care nothing for us. Thaci speaks of people having self determination but yet why can't North Kosovo being self determine, why can't Bosnian Serbs. It is simple. The west needs an insurance policy just in case they need war in the Balkans. That is the ONLY reason they wont partion along ethnic lines because it would bring permanent peace and they cannot have that. They need minorities in Majority areas to flick the switch so easily just in case they need war, and we are so stupid that we allow them. Time for Balkans to unite in trade and peace. Time for us to expel the West and Russia too for that matter. We can solve this ourselves. Peacefully...
Bivši britanski vojnik UÇK-a poručio Kosovarima: Spremite oružje...!
http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/kosovo/74269/bivsi-britanski-vojnik-uck-a-porucio-kosovarima-spremite-oruzje
"Instead of calls for war from Serbia, I'm calling the Kosovo Serbs to peace and dialogue. Instead of ethnic and territorial partition I call on them to join NATO and the EU," Thaci told Deutsche Welle.
-- He means well, even if he has no idea what he's talking about and is speaking on behalf of a people who want nothing to do with him or his government.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE SHQIPTARS WILL REPEAT SHEKER SHEKER RUSSIAN STANCE OVER KOSOVO EVENTS DOESN'T CHANGE AN INCH. ALL STEPS WERE REGISTERED AND REPEATED AS THEY ONCE HAPPENED. MOREOVER I CAN SEE THAT THE RUSSIAN ATTITUDE IS MUCH TOUGHER THAN THE SERBIAN ONE. WHAT I CAN HERE IN RUSSIA IS SAME AS SESELJ IS SAYING IN SERBIA.
Hey Ratko: I didn't say they are Islamist you made it up. I tell you right now who they are UCK is and was Army who fought your Terrorist Serbian Army when they came to Kosovo and killed women and children Year 98/99. AKSH is Army to protect All Albanians Lands they go when every they need it. And FSK is Kosovens Best Army you like it or not hopefully you understand now.
Except it's Albanians who rush off to join ISIS and destabilize the Balkans since 2000.
(Navi, 26 January 2017 00:28)
Well, Serbia is the only country in the Balkans arguing over something with most of its neighbours since 2000... Are you saying that it is the fault of the Albanians for Serbia destabilizing the Balkans?
My dear rote if you are not an expert on Balkan then you shouldn't talk, or better educate yourself. Russia have intention to help the wrong side again, the right side will wait its turn.... Is what happened in these centuries and it will happened again. No we won't give nothing. Those are not Serbian lands never were. I have the facts and you have not, you can't even convince neither yourself. Those churches were and still are in middle of Albanian villages, and Albanians protect them all even after convert in Muslims. So is to see for who were built! And no, forget it, Rama will negociate a sh..t we don't negociate our lands, a lot of Albanians in 500 years gived their life for it! So forget it! The Albanian people say NO! You have to kill us all, or we will have our turn soon or latter. Albania gov.had not learned yet that we never must live in peace, but she is arming herself now. To late! Hoxha know that this will happened but unfortunately he is dead, but another one will take its place. Serbia have no shame or respect the only language she understand is the language of fear, so is better to be armed to teath. Is not to late! 🖕🖕
Albanians in the southern Serbia are armed to the teeth (guess by who) everybody knows this, the dirtiest business happens there. The thing is, they dont want peace, they like living in that chaos, thats their way of life.
They have the greatest community rights guaranteed by the Serbian constitution, yet they choose to be a tool of USA.
Well I am not an expert in the Balkan wars but I know that de facto Albania did not exist at the time yet. So word STOLE is not good here. Besides only KIM is discussed here and no lands of Albania are questioned. Kosovo is the Holy Land of the Serbs and the Russians - axioma. So when you behave as THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL you go under the risk that the other side will accept your rules. See how fast the things are changed lately while Pristina behaves like 5 -7 years ago. Kosovo may be occupied in one day if Donbass army is involved. It will be a proxy war where Russia will not be involved directly. Maybe a couple of brigades from northern Caucasus to save the Muslims. If you remember peace came to Crimea when a Chechen batalion was deployed and the Tatars understood that jokes were over. So I think that Shqiptars should be not simply flexible but VERY FLEXIBLE. Otherwise you will have to face the Serbs and the Russians and nobody will come to help you. Even KFOR will abandon the region. Every next government in Belgrade will be more nationalistic so don't waste your time to reach a compromise. Maybe Moscow already told Belgrade to raise the stakes. The US will need several years to reload their guns and Russia may use the moment. Trust me I wouldn't like us to fight the Whites. Rama should seek peace in Belgrade to save the situation. Lands must be divided taking in account the regugees in Serbia and the whole town of Mitrovtsa plus our churches and monasteries.
Well, Serbia is the only country in the Balkans arguing over something with most of its neighbours since 2000... Are you saying that it is the fault of the Albanians for Serbia destabilizing the Balkans?
(icj1, 26 January 2017 15:43)
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2 and that's why it was avenged at the first opportunity. Serbia is the only country that was robbed so you will live on this powder barrel until we come to take back our lands. thats why VENDETTA is the Serbian and Russian for REMEMBER.
@ rote
There is a main reason why all our neighbors fear Albania and Albanians! Serbia in particular – with the obsession of Greater Albania – or Natural Albania, I will say. Well, we are even ‘strong” enough now to be fear. But, wait … wait and see in the future....
Why do Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro will fear us, we are not threatening them, we are not even strong enough - In psychology is called: The fear of “ The thief”!
Why we don't fear none of our neighbors?
Serbia all the time is in fear! Serbia is a nation who stole from Albanians – Kosovo in 1913-14, from Hungarians – Vojvodina 1918, and Bosnians with the help of Russia.
But please you are free to show to us , when and where Albanians stole something from Serbia? Facts rote, facts … NONEEEEE…NONEEEE..
Here you have what Serbia stole, and what she did with your help!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Conference_of_1912%E2%80%9313
Here the facts that why those territories never were Serbian. Russia create the mess in Balkan and still is. so we all have to thank Russia for this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1915)
icj1 : Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2"
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU? AND BY THE WAY ALSO ON THIS PAGE I'VE PLACED THE FOLLOWING :
"... Balkans where Serbs were the backbone of the resistance movement. And am aware that they cooperated with the Shqiptar partizans. In fact I do believe that things uniting you are bigger than those dividing you with the Serbs.
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
I COULD SAY THAT SHQIPTAR PARTISANS MADE 3-4% OF THE TWO SERBIAN ARMIES ... BUT I DIDN'T ... I THINK I WAS POSITIVE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE ANOTHER BARK OF HATRED. DON'T YOU FIND IT ?
1/ Do you agree that the two Yugoslavian armies composed mostly of the Serbs fought the fascists 4 times longer than the US&Co did?
2/ Do you agree that before May 1944 on the battlefield the USSR had no ally other than the two Serbian armies?
3/ Do you agree that on the Balkans there was only one people who made WW2 it national war and a personal vendetta war?
4/ Do you agree that even if the 20 000 figure was correct even in this case the Shqiptars made 3-4% of the partizan movement on the Balkans while Serbs made at least 80% ?
5/ Do you understand that I know about WW2 100 times more than you do because I feel it on my skin?
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts so I already knew the news. In one of our families father and 4 his sons were killed in this war ... So when I wrote it I meant the region of the Balkans where Serbs were the backbone of the resistance movement. And am aware that they cooperated with the Shqiptar partizans. In fact I do believe that things uniting you are bigger than those dividing you with the Serbs.
In an Afghan anecdote (hekayat) a Camel was told that his neck was not straight (uh ta wail che ghara di kaga da) and he responded the with WHICH PART OF ME IS STRAIGHT (wa de wail che kum dzai mi sam dyi) ? It means that there's no sence to criticize part of something if the whole thing is wrong. It's about your comment full of bs statements and declarations. Be it so and we shall see which of was wrong.
As far Serbs: -in 7th century we have settled KosMet
(RighteousBilly, 27 January 2017 13:02)
Great and before then it was Romans that had settled KosMet and so on... so not sure what your point is! I hope you are aware that time did not start in the 7th century :)
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2
(rote, 26 January 2017 20:00)
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2", thus omitting the fact that your relatives fought, as well!
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2
(rote, 26 January 2017 20:00)
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2", thus omitting the fact that your relatives fought, as well!
(icj1, 28 January 2017 01:51)
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU?
(rote, 28 January 2017 17:46)
Well, say whatever you want dear - you don't have to satisfy me about anything lol I just pointed out that you should be ashamed for your comment on 26 January 2017 20:00 where you forgot the sacrifices of your 38 family members who bravely fought the Axis countries during WW2!
"trong” enough now to be fear. But, wait … wait and see in the future....
Why do Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro will fear us, we are not threatening them, we are not even strong enough - In psychology is called: The fear of “ The thief”!
Why we don't fear none of our neighbors?
Serbia all the time is in fear! Serbia is a nation who stole from Albanians – Kosovo in 1913-14, from Hungarians – Vojvodina 1918, and Bosnians with the help of Russia.
But please you are free to show to us , when and where Albanians stole something from Serbia? Facts rote, facts … NONEEEEE…NONEEEE..
Here you have what Serbia stole, and what she did with your help!
[link]
Here the facts that why those territories never were Serbian. Russia create the mess in Balkan and still is. so we all have to thank Russia for this.
[link](1915)"
Joni, we were never afraid of you, it was and is vice versa.
As far Serbs:
-in 7th century we have settled KosMet and Drim valley(modern N. Albania) by byzantine sources (you were mentioned for the first time in 11th century by the same sources);
-At the end of 17th century migration of Serbs and Albanian occupation of KosMet, central Serbia and even Bulgaria
-1912 liberation of KosMet (Bulgarians and Serbs send back Albanian occupants
Vojvodina was settled in 17th century by the same Serbs (you dont know that Slavs had lived in Panonian basin before arrival of Hungarians)
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU?
(rote, 28 January 2017 17:46)
Well, say whatever you want dear - you don't have to satisfy me about anything lol I just pointed out that you should be ashamed for your comment on 26 January 2017 20:00 where you forgot the sacrifices of your 38 family members who bravely fought the Axis countries during WW2!
(icj1, 29 January 2017 00:48)
Do you understand that I know about WW2 100 times more than you do because I feel it on my skin?
(rote, 29 January 2017 15:59)
Of course you do, I never questioned that you are a brilliant historian. But next time don't forget that Russia, too, fought the Axis countries during WW2!
Serbian government played same type of game with Croatia now with Kosovo but serbs know very well what happened in Croatia they got wiped out by Croatians army and Croatian people if Serbs continue doing this they may have same faith in Kosovo. We have 3 groups waiting to go to Mitrovica UCK,AKSH, and FSK
Well Thaci, get off your AZZ and find a way of arming the Albanian inhabited part of southern Serbia Preshevo, bujonavac, Medveja!!!
Also, in the process don't forget the majority Albanians of western Macedonia as the day will come when they will need to defend themselves as well!!!
Thaci and his paramilitary were the only ones who decided to move armed formations in a ethnically homogenous manner. The communications, movement and logistical command during this event have provided invaluable intelligence for subsequent tactical exercises.
Serbs are tough wen the fight women and children , Old people and handcuff teenagers . We the (kos-alb) want weapons to...
(Ilyrian, 25 January 2017 16:32)
No, that's what Albanians do. For God's sake you people are so unoriginal you even steal other people's stereotypes they use for you.
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES THE SHQIPTARS WILL REPEAT SHEKER SHEKER RUSSIAN STANCE OVER KOSOVO EVENTS DOESN'T CHANGE AN INCH. ALL STEPS WERE REGISTERED AND REPEATED AS THEY ONCE HAPPENED. MOREOVER I CAN SEE THAT THE RUSSIAN ATTITUDE IS MUCH TOUGHER THAN THE SERBIAN ONE. WHAT I CAN HERE IN RUSSIA IS SAME AS SESELJ IS SAYING IN SERBIA.
serbs in the northern Kosova are armed to the teeth (guess by who) everybody knows this, the dirtiest business happens there. The thing is, they dont want peace, they like living in that chaos, thats their way of life.
They have the greatest community rights guaranteed by the Kosova constitution, yet they choose to be a tool of Belgrade.
Well Thaci, get off your AZZ and find a way of arming the Albanian inhabited part of southern Serbia Preshevo, bujonavac, Medveja!!!
Also, in the process don't forget the majority Albanians of western Macedonia as the day will come when they will need to defend themselves as well!!!
(Peter the Rocky Mountains, 25 January 2017 14:09)
You tried both of those in 2001. In Presevo, you got your asses kicked by a joint NATO-VS counter-terrorism strike. In Macedonia the Europe intervened to shut that Greater Albania sh!t down and got you to sign the Ohrid Agreement.
Try to keep up with events in the region you think you're a part of, ok? You're sounding more and more clueless with every rant and rave you belch out around here.
PS - Stick to just "Rocky". "Peter the Rocky" and "Peter the Rocky Mountains" simply demonstrates your inability to know English even though you've been living in the US for most of your life, Mr. Cimaj.
Its not a secret anymore, the Russians have sold, and donated arms to Serbia to protect it self and will use them in the up coming months to regain Kosovo, no more support from the USA, Serbia's land was stolen and they will take it back forcefully as they should, the Albanian leadership in Kosovo needs to realize their days are numbered.
"Instead of calls for war from Serbia, I'm calling the Kosovo Serbs to peace and dialogue. Instead of ethnic and territorial partition I call on them to join NATO and the EU," Thaci told Deutsche Welle.
-- He means well, even if he has no idea what he's talking about and is speaking on behalf of a people who want nothing to do with him or his government.
Hey Ratko: I didn't say they are Islamist you made it up. I tell you right now who they are UCK is and was Army who fought your Terrorist Serbian Army when they came to Kosovo and killed women and children Year 98/99. AKSH is Army to protect All Albanians Lands they go when every they need it. And FSK is Kosovens Best Army you like it or not hopefully you understand now.
Well, Serbia is the only country in the Balkans arguing over something with most of its neighbours since 2000... Are you saying that it is the fault of the Albanians for Serbia destabilizing the Balkans?
(icj1, 26 January 2017 15:43)
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2 and that's why it was avenged at the first opportunity. Serbia is the only country that was robbed so you will live on this powder barrel until we come to take back our lands. thats why VENDETTA is the Serbian and Russian for REMEMBER.
"trong” enough now to be fear. But, wait … wait and see in the future....
Why do Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro will fear us, we are not threatening them, we are not even strong enough - In psychology is called: The fear of “ The thief”!
Why we don't fear none of our neighbors?
Serbia all the time is in fear! Serbia is a nation who stole from Albanians – Kosovo in 1913-14, from Hungarians – Vojvodina 1918, and Bosnians with the help of Russia.
But please you are free to show to us , when and where Albanians stole something from Serbia? Facts rote, facts … NONEEEEE…NONEEEE..
Here you have what Serbia stole, and what she did with your help!
[link]
Here the facts that why those territories never were Serbian. Russia create the mess in Balkan and still is. so we all have to thank Russia for this.
[link](1915)"
Joni, we were never afraid of you, it was and is vice versa.
As far Serbs:
-in 7th century we have settled KosMet and Drim valley(modern N. Albania) by byzantine sources (you were mentioned for the first time in 11th century by the same sources);
-At the end of 17th century migration of Serbs and Albanian occupation of KosMet, central Serbia and even Bulgaria
-1912 liberation of KosMet (Bulgarians and Serbs send back Albanian occupants
Vojvodina was settled in 17th century by the same Serbs (you dont know that Slavs had lived in Panonian basin before arrival of Hungarians)
Albanians in the southern Serbia are armed to the teeth (guess by who) everybody knows this, the dirtiest business happens there. The thing is, they dont want peace, they like living in that chaos, thats their way of life.
They have the greatest community rights guaranteed by the Serbian constitution, yet they choose to be a tool of USA.
Can't we see we are just pawns for the west. All Balkan people are. They care nothing for us. Thaci speaks of people having self determination but yet why can't North Kosovo being self determine, why can't Bosnian Serbs. It is simple. The west needs an insurance policy just in case they need war in the Balkans. That is the ONLY reason they wont partion along ethnic lines because it would bring permanent peace and they cannot have that. They need minorities in Majority areas to flick the switch so easily just in case they need war, and we are so stupid that we allow them. Time for Balkans to unite in trade and peace. Time for us to expel the West and Russia too for that matter. We can solve this ourselves. Peacefully...
Bivši britanski vojnik UÇK-a poručio Kosovarima: Spremite oružje...!
http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/kosovo/74269/bivsi-britanski-vojnik-uck-a-porucio-kosovarima-spremite-oruzje
Except it's Albanians who rush off to join ISIS and destabilize the Balkans since 2000.
(Navi, 26 January 2017 00:28)
Well, Serbia is the only country in the Balkans arguing over something with most of its neighbours since 2000... Are you saying that it is the fault of the Albanians for Serbia destabilizing the Balkans?
Well I am not an expert in the Balkan wars but I know that de facto Albania did not exist at the time yet. So word STOLE is not good here. Besides only KIM is discussed here and no lands of Albania are questioned. Kosovo is the Holy Land of the Serbs and the Russians - axioma. So when you behave as THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL you go under the risk that the other side will accept your rules. See how fast the things are changed lately while Pristina behaves like 5 -7 years ago. Kosovo may be occupied in one day if Donbass army is involved. It will be a proxy war where Russia will not be involved directly. Maybe a couple of brigades from northern Caucasus to save the Muslims. If you remember peace came to Crimea when a Chechen batalion was deployed and the Tatars understood that jokes were over. So I think that Shqiptars should be not simply flexible but VERY FLEXIBLE. Otherwise you will have to face the Serbs and the Russians and nobody will come to help you. Even KFOR will abandon the region. Every next government in Belgrade will be more nationalistic so don't waste your time to reach a compromise. Maybe Moscow already told Belgrade to raise the stakes. The US will need several years to reload their guns and Russia may use the moment. Trust me I wouldn't like us to fight the Whites. Rama should seek peace in Belgrade to save the situation. Lands must be divided taking in account the regugees in Serbia and the whole town of Mitrovtsa plus our churches and monasteries.
My dear rote if you are not an expert on Balkan then you shouldn't talk, or better educate yourself. Russia have intention to help the wrong side again, the right side will wait its turn.... Is what happened in these centuries and it will happened again. No we won't give nothing. Those are not Serbian lands never were. I have the facts and you have not, you can't even convince neither yourself. Those churches were and still are in middle of Albanian villages, and Albanians protect them all even after convert in Muslims. So is to see for who were built! And no, forget it, Rama will negociate a sh..t we don't negociate our lands, a lot of Albanians in 500 years gived their life for it! So forget it! The Albanian people say NO! You have to kill us all, or we will have our turn soon or latter. Albania gov.had not learned yet that we never must live in peace, but she is arming herself now. To late! Hoxha know that this will happened but unfortunately he is dead, but another one will take its place. Serbia have no shame or respect the only language she understand is the language of fear, so is better to be armed to teath. Is not to late! 🖕🖕
In an Afghan anecdote (hekayat) a Camel was told that his neck was not straight (uh ta wail che ghara di kaga da) and he responded the with WHICH PART OF ME IS STRAIGHT (wa de wail che kum dzai mi sam dyi) ? It means that there's no sence to criticize part of something if the whole thing is wrong. It's about your comment full of bs statements and declarations. Be it so and we shall see which of was wrong.
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts so I already knew the news. In one of our families father and 4 his sons were killed in this war ... So when I wrote it I meant the region of the Balkans where Serbs were the backbone of the resistance movement. And am aware that they cooperated with the Shqiptar partizans. In fact I do believe that things uniting you are bigger than those dividing you with the Serbs.
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2
(rote, 26 January 2017 20:00)
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2", thus omitting the fact that your relatives fought, as well!
@ rote
There is a main reason why all our neighbors fear Albania and Albanians! Serbia in particular – with the obsession of Greater Albania – or Natural Albania, I will say. Well, we are even ‘strong” enough now to be fear. But, wait … wait and see in the future....
Why do Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro will fear us, we are not threatening them, we are not even strong enough - In psychology is called: The fear of “ The thief”!
Why we don't fear none of our neighbors?
Serbia all the time is in fear! Serbia is a nation who stole from Albanians – Kosovo in 1913-14, from Hungarians – Vojvodina 1918, and Bosnians with the help of Russia.
But please you are free to show to us , when and where Albanians stole something from Serbia? Facts rote, facts … NONEEEEE…NONEEEE..
Here you have what Serbia stole, and what she did with your help!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Conference_of_1912%E2%80%9313
Here the facts that why those territories never were Serbian. Russia create the mess in Balkan and still is. so we all have to thank Russia for this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1915)
As far Serbs: -in 7th century we have settled KosMet
(RighteousBilly, 27 January 2017 13:02)
Great and before then it was Romans that had settled KosMet and so on... so not sure what your point is! I hope you are aware that time did not start in the 7th century :)
icj1 : Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2"
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU? AND BY THE WAY ALSO ON THIS PAGE I'VE PLACED THE FOLLOWING :
"... Balkans where Serbs were the backbone of the resistance movement. And am aware that they cooperated with the Shqiptar partizans. In fact I do believe that things uniting you are bigger than those dividing you with the Serbs.
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
I COULD SAY THAT SHQIPTAR PARTISANS MADE 3-4% OF THE TWO SERBIAN ARMIES ... BUT I DIDN'T ... I THINK I WAS POSITIVE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE ANOTHER BARK OF HATRED. DON'T YOU FIND IT ?
Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2
(rote, 26 January 2017 20:00)
You forgot Russia, mate lol Russia also fought the Axis countries during WW2...
(icj1, 27 January 2017 01:23)
38 members of my family including my Grandpa have not returned from the fronts
(rote, 27 January 2017 18:14)
Exactly, so shame on you for writing that "Serbia is the only state which fought EU aka Axis countries during WW2", thus omitting the fact that your relatives fought, as well!
(icj1, 28 January 2017 01:51)
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU?
(rote, 28 January 2017 17:46)
Well, say whatever you want dear - you don't have to satisfy me about anything lol I just pointed out that you should be ashamed for your comment on 26 January 2017 20:00 where you forgot the sacrifices of your 38 family members who bravely fought the Axis countries during WW2!
1/ Do you agree that the two Yugoslavian armies composed mostly of the Serbs fought the fascists 4 times longer than the US&Co did?
2/ Do you agree that before May 1944 on the battlefield the USSR had no ally other than the two Serbian armies?
3/ Do you agree that on the Balkans there was only one people who made WW2 it national war and a personal vendetta war?
4/ Do you agree that even if the 20 000 figure was correct even in this case the Shqiptars made 3-4% of the partizan movement on the Balkans while Serbs made at least 80% ?
5/ Do you understand that I know about WW2 100 times more than you do because I feel it on my skin?
OK WHAY IF I SAY THAT SERBS AND MONTENEGRINS MADE 80% OF THE PARTIZANS ON THE BALKANS? WILL IT SATISFY YOU?
(rote, 28 January 2017 17:46)
Well, say whatever you want dear - you don't have to satisfy me about anything lol I just pointed out that you should be ashamed for your comment on 26 January 2017 20:00 where you forgot the sacrifices of your 38 family members who bravely fought the Axis countries during WW2!
(icj1, 29 January 2017 00:48)
Do you understand that I know about WW2 100 times more than you do because I feel it on my skin?
(rote, 29 January 2017 15:59)
Of course you do, I never questioned that you are a brilliant historian. But next time don't forget that Russia, too, fought the Axis countries during WW2!
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