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Thursday, 05.01.2017.

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Haradinaj to be kept in custody until extradition request

Ramush Haradinaj will remain in custody "until Serbia makes a formal extradition request," a French appeal court has decided.

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SuverenaAnonimka

pre 7 godina

SERBIA IS SUPPORTED BY RUSSIA NOW and can ask justice for the first time after the criminal NATO aggression and its sovereignty destruction in 1999!

Even a 14 days old Serbian baby was a victim of Albanian Muslim separatist Haridinaj in 1998 - it was BEFORE USA BOMBED SERBIA and supported Islamic Albanian Muslims in Kosovo : http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Hronika/626584/Stravicna-prica-o-Haradinajevim-zlocinima-Ubili-su-bebu-od-14-dana ( for translation use https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr&tab=TT )

Here are the results of USA /Vatican criminal support to Albanian mafia:
-European drug market is almost entirely in Albanian mafia hands that deals Afghnaistan's heroin
-World's Human Organ trafficking is in Albanian hands too
-almost all Orthodox churches in Kosovo are destroyed : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0I5cxkHT_8&t=6s
-chief drug/organ dealer is the very PM of "self-proclaimed" Kosovo, Mister Thaci
-the "Frankenstein State Kosovo" lives from pure crime
-Serbian lands/resources were stolen and given to USA colonialists as gifts for successful destroying of Serbia
-criminals are protected in Kosovo and Serbs must leave own homes, lands, wealth...
... there is no security, justice, peace.. in Kosoov any more !

rote

pre 7 godina

according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.
(icj1, 8 January 2017 01:40)

It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!

(sasa.p from near Jagodina)

Untill you stick to the current version of the Serbian history you'll be receiving such silly accusations. To quit with it you need to ask yoursef simple questions. Was Balkans metropolis or colony of the Ottomans? How could people like Pasha Sokologlu rule the empire if they were slaves? Why did the sides abandon Kosovo after the bitka? And how come that the virtual Serbian aristocracy has stopped to exist in 1389? Why did the Serbs save the empire in 1402 when it stopped to exist? How came that during the Napoleon wars Russian troops and the Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgarians spoke the same language? Why were the first sultans born and burries in Adrianopole (Erdine)? Why did Belgrade receive this name if it wasn't made of white stones? What does BAL CAN mean? How come that in mediaeval Tibet there were so many Serbian toponymals? How come the the first time Russia is mentioned in the Turkish history is the fall of the 16 century only? ect. ect.

Joni

pre 7 godina

No ,it didn't exist as a country in 1999 ,only as a state. It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 8 January 2017 22:49)

Well, you don’t know your own history to. When was created the Serbian state and did it included KOSOVO in?
The answers is Serbian state was created in ….., and NO – Kosovo was not part of SERBIAN state.
So, if we go back in history we learn that KOSOVO was not part of Serbian state. Serbia invade Kosovo on WWI, and made a lot of massacres on Albanian population.
All the Europeans who learn that, are all ignorant, just Serbs are smarter, even though you have lowest IQ than Albanians.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 January 2017 20:35)

That's a good point. So, according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.
(icj1, 8 January 2017 01:40)

No ,it didn't exist as a country in 1999 ,only as a state. It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!

icj1

pre 7 godina

Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 January 2017 20:35)

That's a good point. So, according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbian President - war criminal
Serbian Prime Minister - war criminal
Serbian Foreign Minister - war criminal

In addition, all three of them were part of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milosevic, that both committed genocide in Bosnia and attempted ethnic cleansing in Kosova. Wash your mouths before you speak of Haradinaj, you dirty Slobos.
(Tell it as it is, 6 January 2017 17:58) # C

Tell it as it is ,
Yeh ,first their was no.Serbia 1999 ,and no Serbian President ,Prime minister or foreign minister.
Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha

rote

pre 7 godina

Does he come from Kurdistan?

(shkipkurd, 7 January 2017 03:14)


Word KURD has two components and none of them is ethnical. K-URD = K-URDU = K-ORDA = K-HORDE. It was the way the Horde's troops were marked in the ME. Kurdians (Hordians) were colonial armies of the White Horde. That's why they live apart from one another in several countries and that's why their language differs so much as well as their happlogroups. Just because the hordes were formed in different parts of the empire. And they married local women who also were different in Iran or Syria or A-Natol. Letter "K" is most often met in marking the hordes. It could mean either Cossack or Kniaz. Thus K-URD was either Kniaz Horde or Cossack Horde.

Second big classification were P-ORDA = P-ORTA. They controlled south of Europe, Africa and America plus all the ports. So word PASSPORT meant PASS P-ORTA i.e. a document that one legally passed the P-Horde. Either he has paid the tax or he was free from paying taxes. Most likely P-Orta meant Osmanian part of the Great Horde. Anyways KURDS never payed any taxes as they belonged to the caste of warriors.

PS A very strange Kurd you are ...

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

LOL: I suppose one argument from Kosovan Albanians might be that two of the three people you mentioned are not in jail so why should their person be. Mladic would have done well not to go on live TV being broadcast across the world and tip everyone off about what he and his men were about to do, perhaps then he would be free as well.

On a different matter, Happy Christmas to all those celebrating today.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Because he had his day in court at Hague and was found NOT GUILTY.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 6 January 2017 22:23)

I should have prefaced "without witnesses dying, disappearing, or suddenly changing their story". I figured that was self evident, but I forgot I'm trying to get an answer from Albanian trolls who glorify war criminals as heroes because they believe "not guilty" means he really didn't do anything, and not because the case was thrown out due to sudden lack of witnesses. My mistake.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Can any Albanian here logically argue why this man should NOT be in jail?...
(LOL, 6 January 2017 20:12)

Because he had his day in court at Hague and was found NOT GUILTY.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Albanians rushing to defend their "Mladic", their "Oric" and their "Gotovina". They claim to be victims and then defend their own war criminals, drug traffickers, and warlords.

Can any Albanian here logically argue why this man should NOT be in jail? Can anyone here actually argue why Kosovo would NOT be better off with scum like these removed from the public?

J

pre 7 godina

Funny how "freedom fighter" in Albanian translates into "war criminal" in every other dictionary. Equally funny how Albanians who claim to be peace loving threaten all sorts of things when they don't get their way. Spoiled uneducated children, I say.
(Navi, 6 January 2017 17:04)

Funny how war criminal translates to Serb government official in every other dictionary.

Like spoiled kids the Serb are throwing a tantrum because international courts have found Haradinaj innocent twice. He didn't hide in military baracks either. You reap what you sow. A list of 59 arrest warrants for war crimes committed by Serbs just became public in Kosova. You keep pulling stupid stunts like this and keep making your list larger and pretty soon every Serb in Kosova will have a warrant against them.

Now go lock your house before the war criminal you're hiding is found by the Hague.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Ramush is a hero! Why is a criminal? Because he did not stay sit to see when the criminal state of Serbia send its army to kill the inoncent Albanian people? For that? He faught whith solders not whith women and children like Serbs did in Albanian villages. How many Serbian criminals are under Serbian protection after what they did? How many of them are guilty of crimes made on inoncent people in Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo,so send them in these countries!

Tell it as it is

pre 7 godina

Serbian President - war criminal
Serbian Prime Minister - war criminal
Serbian Foreign Minister - war criminal

In addition, all three of them were part of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milosevic, that both committed genocide in Bosnia and attempted ethnic cleansing in Kosova. Wash your mouths before you speak of Haradinaj, you dirty Slobos.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Funny how "freedom fighter" in Albanian translates into "war criminal" in every other dictionary. Equally funny how Albanians who claim to be peace loving threaten all sorts of things when they don't get their way. Spoiled uneducated children, I say.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

William UK: If you believe that these decisions are political as opposed to evidence based, it is highly unlikely that France will be the first to 'break cover'. They have a very close relationship with Kosovo. One of the problems that I encountered throughout my time in Bosnia was the concept of evidence, in contrast to rumour, innuendo or hearsay. For many in the Balkans it is enough for them to believe something if a person in authority from a faction/national background they support says it is so. They do not seek corroboration and in fact contribute to the authentication of the rumour by passing it along as established truth. At this time of year our football columns in the UK are full of transfer rumours, very few of which come to pass. The same is true of much that appears in the press in BiH, it is there to please those who read the paper rather than to inform them.

Jovan

pre 7 godina

Only in a fake jmmitation of a "state", such a reckless criminal is given diplomatic documents...

My dear k-albanian friends, don't you see what is wrong with you?

Do you really not see?

I think there's a lot disappointment ahead for the Albanians in the future...

And Mr. Touchy's helpless attempts to lick the russian boot are speaking for themselves...

icj1

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them?
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

I wrote nowhere that "K&M Srbs" should be stopped from having a referendum to leave "Kosovo"...
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Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

I'm not sure who these "everyone" were because out of the 8 entities (6 republics and 2 autonomous provinces) which made up Yugoslavia, 6 did not feel "safer" in a "larger crowd" and decided to leave, as decided in popular referendums in each of those 6 entities.

William UK

pre 7 godina

Seems like everyone is missing the point here. The question here is whether Haradinaj will be extradited. The actual verdicts are known in advance. Hague = not guilty and Serbia = guilty regardless of the evidence. These are political decisions.

So if he is extradited then it signals a change in western policy, which wouldn't surprise me.

rote

pre 7 godina

In 2016 there were radical changes on the world stage. They give the peoples of the peninsula to rule out of the trap of the 90s. From this point any raising the stakes I find counterproductive. After all Ramush is just another bandit who no longer enjoys support of most of the Whites. Together with the provocative statements of Dacic and the attempt of Nokolic to visit KIM it looks like a coordinated step to start bargaining before the inauguration. God knows how wise it is but I would behave more cautious if I were to deside. Of course the reconciliation process is to be a package deal but raising so many issues at the time may bring the region to another deadlock I think. Besides all current elites depend on the west where many still prefer disintegrited Balkans rather than prospering. We need to start thinking in a new way but to do that we must stop thinking the way we did. Unfortunately most of us are programmed to confrontation and this inertion forse is very strong ...

J

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them? When Srbs in Croatia voted not to be part of Croatia, why the war?
In my opinion, people did not want to live in a "new" country that was run by people that saw as enemies! Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd, but when it was broken up, everyone scrambled and jockied
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

The Serbs can have a referendum to leave. We Albanians don't stop them, won't stop them. We won't help them cause they didn't help and are not helping us but we don't stop them. However you do have the wrong address. Those who are stopping them reside in Belgrade. If K. Serbs go, then they no longer can make any arguments about the rest of Kosova's population. As a matter of fact, check B92's news from 3-4 years ago. Serbia stopped such attempts as the idea has been floating around for a while.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"It's easy. That was kangaroo court not a real court. There are plenty evidence for his war crimes."

Did the persecutors in the Hague see that evidence?

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"Totally indifferent to Haradinaj, they can send him to Serbia for all I care. I do have a query though, considering that lawyers in the Hague could not find sufficient evidence to send him to jail, how will Serbia prove his guilt?
(Nikolle"

It's easy. That was kangaroo court not a real court. There are plenty evidence for his war crimes.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them? When Srbs in Croatia voted not to be part of Croatia, why the war?
In my opinion, people did not want to live in a "new" country that was run by people that saw as enemies! Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd, but when it was broken up, everyone scrambled and jockied

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Totally indifferent to Haradinaj, they can send him to Serbia for all I care. I do have a query though, considering that lawyers in the Hague could not find sufficient evidence to send him to jail, how will Serbia prove his guilt?

Italian Serbophile

pre 7 godina

It's funny how shiptars consider this pig a hero. Well, many in Third World consider Al-Baghdadi a hero...

Extradiction and the day after Serbia should restore death penalty and partial justice will have been made. Later it will be the turn of the Snake and other albanian coward fellows.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"It is all about Haradinaj invitation to Trump presidential ceremony.
srps got no invitation and are using any ugly trick to cloud his invitation. Srps will be always the same , dirty, unprincipled,unshamed,unhuman...
(delon"

He will answer for his crimes on Serbs, that scumbag. There is a nice, warm jail cell for him to the rest of his evil life. He will be able to learn to read and write (as you should, too) and to respect superior people than his own people.

justhetruth

pre 7 godina

and where Balkan country's want to go? in EU? oh no f..k no way not yet no we want to work for 300 eu and support or corrupted brotherhood who "cares" if other don't have to eat. this is the way how cookie crumbles down there...seems like never will be a peace over there but e easy bite for others how they can make fool of yourselves yes and im saying for all the balkan nation a small match and boom a big fire ready to go is that a SAD story for all of you?

Captain Kosova

pre 7 godina

Serbia is just salty that 3/4ths of their leadership in government and from the military are rotting away in Hague prisons for crimes against humanity. They try to save face and feel better about themselves by putting out arrest warrants that nobody will ever execute and extradite the person back to Serbia.

Serbias National Anthem:
I can't get no satisfaction, I can't get no satisfaction
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no......

LOL! You guys will get a big fat "trrt"

Azir

pre 7 godina

Dear ignorant Serbs:

Albania and others allies can't submit requests for thousands of Serbian War Criminals Wanted by Kosova's Department of Justice charging them with Genocide,War Crimes ,Crimes against Humanity,mass rapes,looting,arsons etc..to Interpole and bring these fugitives from justice in...

Albanians United will make your life just as uncomfortable....

ivan

pre 7 godina

If Serbia extradites this freedom fighter who is considered nothing short of a hero by a majority in the Republic of Kosova, a balkan tsunami will be unleashed upon Serbia with severe consequences! Tread carefully radical-Serbia, your putting your hands in ashes that still have red hot ambers lingering within!

Serbia is shaking in its boots! We're terrified of a potential attack by Albanians. Don't worry, we'll respond symmetrically. We're calling up our elders(women of 75 years and up)and a few high school kids. Bring it on Bro!!!!!!!

novi sad

pre 7 godina

Good to see another criminal will get what is coming to him. With over approx 75% of Milosevic's regime having already been convicted and tried by the Kangaroo courts it would be nice to see these Albo scum along with Croats and Bosnians get their just rewards.

icj1

pre 7 godina

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly
(factman, 5 January 2017 16:37)

Exactly, and the taking apart of Yugoslavia by its constitutive units is an example of that. Each of the units that made up the federation (except for Serbia and Vojvodina) had a referendum and decided to leave Yugoslavia in a responsible way, without using force against any of the other units.

icj1

pre 7 godina

a "fair trial" in Serbia is dependent on which jurisdiction tries him.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 January 2017 17:21)

Why? How many jurisdictions are there in Serbia? Isn't Serbia a single country?!

LOL

pre 7 godina

Look at all the Albanians and the one token Croat defending one of Kosovo's biggest thug, murderer, terrorist, and all around scum. The best thing for everyone concerned would be for Haradinaj to meet an unfortunate "accident" in his cell and the world can be rid of his miserable existence. Maybe a knife to the back which can then be called a suicide, or however it is inconvenient Albanian criminals wind up dead.

delon

pre 7 godina

It is all about Haradinaj invitation to Trump presidential ceremony.
srps got no invitation and are using any ugly trick to cloud his invitation. Srps will be always the same , dirty, unprincipled,unshamed,unhuman...

ida

pre 7 godina

Most of his victims were fellow ALBANIANS, I believe. But he and his people had at least 19 Albanian witnesses or their family members killed before his trail over crimes of moderate, non-KLA Albanians.

The non-violent, peaceful Albanians were terrorized by the KLA and this radicalized or made silent those ones.

z

pre 7 godina

How serious would a reasonable person take a German Nazi " charging" European JEW for Genocide?????

And was ever happened in Kosova stays in Kosova ( Courts).
(Azir, 5 January 2017 18:25)

Engrish please.

eric

pre 7 godina

looks like interpol need to update their data, this guy was arrested before in slovenia for the same thing. Serbs on the other hands have criminals and terrorists in their government and street. Let alone the mass human caves lingering all over belgrade. Serbia=the cradle of human killings.

Avni

pre 7 godina

"Haradinaj će biti pušten kao što su i Tači, Agim Čeku..."
Azem Vlasi, advokat i savetnik kosovskog predsednika Hašima Tačija, uveren je da će Ramuš Haradinaj biti pušten na slobodu. Kako navodi, hapšenje Haradinaja je provokacija Srbije.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Come on Serbia this is your Second chance , first Slovenia and now France . You can have him if you want him , France is offering him to you . Let's see what you can do about it,and please don't disappoint me

Peter the Rocky Mountains

pre 7 godina

If Serbia extradites this freedom fighter who is considered nothing short of a hero by a majority in the Republic of Kosova, a balkan tsunami will be unleashed upon Serbia with severe consequences! Tread carefully radical-Serbia, your putting your hands in ashes that still have red hot ambers lingering within!

Albanian Orthodox

pre 7 godina

Someone is playing this poor guy.
He was drinking beer and watchin Albanian Football Team in June last year in the middle of France and no one bothered to stop him :)
Looks like all parts Serbia, Kosova (I doubt Thaci likes him much) and France f8cked him up this time because we all know how fair his fate will
go if he gets in Belgrade ;p

J

pre 7 godina

Serbia wants to remind the world that a diplomat's pen is also a weapon of war. And that the wars of the 90's began with the stroke of a diplomat's pen. And that during that time political considerations and lust for larger economic markets and political spheres of influence took on greater importance than maintaining established order -- or in the orderly breakup of a country.

Serbia will not stop reminding these actors of their complicity in the wars of the 90's. Which is really not very different than their complicity in the Mid-east wars we now see.

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly, and not the way they did in the 90's. To blame Serbia for their far greater crime is bullsh*t.

Leadership means that you need to lead (not hide behind straw men).

Of these actors Berlin and London are the most complicit.
(factman, 5 January 2017 16:37)

Serbia wants to destabilize Kosova and possibly the region. The calculation is that with that, they may either take all of it back or at least something back. The problem is that when you plant the seeds of war, you never know for sure what you end up harvesting. They could get what they want but they could end up in a far worse position. We'll see how this provocation plays out. Serbia is playing with fire and possibly with the lives of its children. You may be back here 10 years from now and write the very same post; complaining.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Serbia's Infamous Department of Injustice has tried over 100 times to charge our Freedom Fighter with bogus allegations and yet he's accquited everytime.

Insanity is chronic charging which Serbs expecting to get favorable results.

Interpol and The International Community must never take Serb allegations seriously....

How serious would a reasonable person take a German Nazi " charging" European JEW for Genocide?????

And was ever happened in Kosova stays in Kosova ( Courts).

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

...I agree that he has a better chance with an impartial judiciary in Belgrade ... (Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 January 2017 17:21)...

I advice you to quit whatever your are smoking.
Drugs are bad for your body and your state of mind.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

The second is whether Haradinaj will receive a fair trial in Serbia...I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

(ned taylor, 5 January 2017 15:19)

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Well Mr. Taylor, your suspicions and prejudices may be correct and a "fair trial" in Serbia is dependent on which jurisdiction tries him. I agree that he has a better chance with an impartial judiciary in Belgrade versus the corrupt EULEX judicial farce currently in place in Serbia's southern province. Thank you for reminding us about the high levels of foreign judicial corruption, not only in parts of Serbia, but also currently contaminating Constitutional Courts of other Yugoslav republics.

factman

pre 7 godina

Does Serbia genuinely believe that extradition will take place or do they just want to periodically remind the world that they were victims too?

##

Serbia wants to remind the world that a diplomat's pen is also a weapon of war. And that the wars of the 90's began with the stroke of a diplomat's pen. And that during that time political considerations and lust for larger economic markets and political spheres of influence took on greater importance than maintaining established order -- or in the orderly breakup of a country.

Serbia will not stop reminding these actors of their complicity in the wars of the 90's. Which is really not very different than their complicity in the Mid-east wars we now see.

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly, and not the way they did in the 90's. To blame Serbia for their far greater crime is bullsh*t.

Leadership means that you need to lead (not hide behind straw men).

Of these actors Berlin and London are the most complicit.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Police officer Thaci was arrested in serbia last year , kept for a little while and he was let go . Why ??? Idk, now they're asking for this guy Haredinaj, they wish they never get him so they can look good " disappointed ". Slovenia arrest the same guy (haredinaj) last year I believe , how come Serbia did not get it then ?
(Tony Pocesta, 5 January 2017 14:44) # Com

To Tony the Shqip,
I think you will find that if haredinaj is sent to Belgrade ,then it is Thaci and Pristine ,that have sold him out .
Don't forget it is in Thaci interested for him to be lockup .

Bahri

pre 7 godina

When I hear Serbs and Serbian Government call other countries people Criminals make me Laugh. Only Criminals are Serbs. We all remember Bosnja, Kosovo, Croatia. Massacres. Serbs always try to play victims and real victims Serbs try to make them Criminals.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Tony says that "all such criminals should be prosecuted" and it's hard to disagree. My question is, how many times should they be prosecuted? The bottom line is that Serbia is frustrated that they are, rightly or wrongly, considered to be the major guilty party of the Balkan conflicts and therefore cannot accept not guilty verdicts in the Hague against non-Serbs or the failure to issue an indictment after investigation of alleged offences. To try to change international perceptions they then attempt to (re-)try these people in Serbia and issue warrants accordingly. Several Bosnians have been arrested and released and the person in question in this case has been arrested in Slovenia and released. Does Serbia genuinely believe that extradition will take place or do they just want to periodically remind the world that they were victims too?

There are two key issues at stake here for the French. The first is whether there is sufficient evidence (as opposed to rumour and suspicion) that offences not previously considered by the Hague were committed. The second is whether Haradinaj will receive a fair trial in Serbia. I have no idea about the first of these not being party to any of the key information. As to the second, I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Police officer Thaci was arrested in serbia last year , kept for a little while and he was let go . Why ??? Idk, now they're asking for this guy Haredinaj, they wish they never get him so they can look good " disappointed ". Slovenia arrest the same guy (haredinaj) last year I believe , how come Serbia did not get it then ?

twindales

pre 7 godina

What about the killings carried out on behalf of the Fascist State of Croatia set up during WW2? No one in the Western Balkans can look the other way. Killings on all sides were carried out so please don't just mention one ethnic group as the culprits.

rote

pre 7 godina

a question for Rote

From what come the name Rossi

i would like detailed answer

Thank You Russian friend
(adi_bucharest, 5 January 2017 10:15)


1/ Then let us talk as two Russians should talk because in all Russian chronicles Romanians/Wallah/Moldovans are mentioned as Rus/Slavic people.

2/ In the Ottoman empire all Orthodox peoples ( Rus, Shqiptars, Greeks, Moldovans, Serbs ect.) were in one of the 4 official milliets (nations) and it was called Milliet-i Rum = People of Rome. It was headed by the Greek Patriarchs and was absolutely autonomus. As you know none of the Slavs or the Shqiptars have ever been part of the fake Rome on the Appenines. Because it existed only on paper and the Ottomans knew it very well where the real Rome was. It was on the Balkans (Romey, Tsar Grad, Troy, Jerusalem ect.) on Bosphorus and then in 15 century it moved to Veliki Novgorod. Balkans were the Metropolis of the Byzantine and later of the Ottomans.

3/ Russia is a German word for the Rus (Русь) and it appeared in the 18th century only. During the Mongol Tatar Roman empire Rus people called their state ALL RUS = ВСЯ РУСЬ.

4/ Turkish Sultans were pure Rus and spoke old Rus language and SLOVENSKI as the literate language of the empire. In Russia this language was known as Serbian Church Language. This language dominated in Topkapi residence of the Sultans and the High Court of Constantinople. Some of the Sultans never abandoned Rus.

to be continued

rote

pre 7 godina

i would like detailed answer

Thank You Russian friend

(adi_bucharest, 5 January 2017 10:15)

5/ There are two different words that sound similar. One is RUS and the other is ROS. RUS (РУСЫЙ) means BLOND or WHITE while ROS is a short form of ROSSEIANE (РОССЕЯНЕ) i.e. the DISSIPATED/ DISPERSED because greater part of the Rus people forever stayed in their colonies in Europe, America, Africa, Asia ect.

6/ Word "Rossi" is just a reflection of the former empire. There are plenty of such toponimals and ethnonimals all over the world. Many Rus people added them to their names and many non Rus also used them to increase their status. So we have plenty of Rus, Ros, Ross, Rossius, Roussos, Rusev, Rosso, Rossini, Prussia, Borussia, Brussels, Roussillon ect.

7/ There are a lot of other words aiming at the Rus roots of places and people but we do not notice them ... Bazel, Honduras, Hamburg, Johanesburg, Habsburg, Milan, Torino, Paris, Valencia, Cambridge, Walles, Bologna, Paris, Belgium, Nevada, Ontario, Kentucy, California, Istanbul, Bejing, Coney Island, Auckland ect. ect.

rote

pre 7 godina

All such criminals should be prosecuted.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

what about the Brits who killed more than Hitler did?

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 7 godina

To Izcojx: I do not have to remind you that murder, killings, terrorism and genocide were carried out by criminal elements of all ethnic groups of the Western Balkans, with the exception of Slovenians. All such criminals should be prosecuted.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Ramush is a hero! Why is a criminal? Because he did not stay sit to see when the criminal state of Serbia send its army to kill the inoncent Albanian people? For that? He faught whith solders not whith women and children like Serbs did in Albanian villages. How many Serbian criminals are under Serbian protection after what they did? How many of them are guilty of crimes made on inoncent people in Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo,so send them in these countries!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Can any Albanian here logically argue why this man should NOT be in jail?...
(LOL, 6 January 2017 20:12)

Because he had his day in court at Hague and was found NOT GUILTY.

Tell it as it is

pre 7 godina

Serbian President - war criminal
Serbian Prime Minister - war criminal
Serbian Foreign Minister - war criminal

In addition, all three of them were part of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milosevic, that both committed genocide in Bosnia and attempted ethnic cleansing in Kosova. Wash your mouths before you speak of Haradinaj, you dirty Slobos.

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 7 godina

To Izcojx: I do not have to remind you that murder, killings, terrorism and genocide were carried out by criminal elements of all ethnic groups of the Western Balkans, with the exception of Slovenians. All such criminals should be prosecuted.

Peter the Rocky Mountains

pre 7 godina

If Serbia extradites this freedom fighter who is considered nothing short of a hero by a majority in the Republic of Kosova, a balkan tsunami will be unleashed upon Serbia with severe consequences! Tread carefully radical-Serbia, your putting your hands in ashes that still have red hot ambers lingering within!

LOL

pre 7 godina

Look at all the Albanians and the one token Croat defending one of Kosovo's biggest thug, murderer, terrorist, and all around scum. The best thing for everyone concerned would be for Haradinaj to meet an unfortunate "accident" in his cell and the world can be rid of his miserable existence. Maybe a knife to the back which can then be called a suicide, or however it is inconvenient Albanian criminals wind up dead.

Bahri

pre 7 godina

When I hear Serbs and Serbian Government call other countries people Criminals make me Laugh. Only Criminals are Serbs. We all remember Bosnja, Kosovo, Croatia. Massacres. Serbs always try to play victims and real victims Serbs try to make them Criminals.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Come on Serbia this is your Second chance , first Slovenia and now France . You can have him if you want him , France is offering him to you . Let's see what you can do about it,and please don't disappoint me

Captain Kosova

pre 7 godina

Serbia is just salty that 3/4ths of their leadership in government and from the military are rotting away in Hague prisons for crimes against humanity. They try to save face and feel better about themselves by putting out arrest warrants that nobody will ever execute and extradite the person back to Serbia.

Serbias National Anthem:
I can't get no satisfaction, I can't get no satisfaction
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no......

LOL! You guys will get a big fat "trrt"

eric

pre 7 godina

looks like interpol need to update their data, this guy was arrested before in slovenia for the same thing. Serbs on the other hands have criminals and terrorists in their government and street. Let alone the mass human caves lingering all over belgrade. Serbia=the cradle of human killings.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

...I agree that he has a better chance with an impartial judiciary in Belgrade ... (Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 January 2017 17:21)...

I advice you to quit whatever your are smoking.
Drugs are bad for your body and your state of mind.

delon

pre 7 godina

It is all about Haradinaj invitation to Trump presidential ceremony.
srps got no invitation and are using any ugly trick to cloud his invitation. Srps will be always the same , dirty, unprincipled,unshamed,unhuman...

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

The second is whether Haradinaj will receive a fair trial in Serbia...I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

(ned taylor, 5 January 2017 15:19)

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Well Mr. Taylor, your suspicions and prejudices may be correct and a "fair trial" in Serbia is dependent on which jurisdiction tries him. I agree that he has a better chance with an impartial judiciary in Belgrade versus the corrupt EULEX judicial farce currently in place in Serbia's southern province. Thank you for reminding us about the high levels of foreign judicial corruption, not only in parts of Serbia, but also currently contaminating Constitutional Courts of other Yugoslav republics.

J

pre 7 godina

Serbia wants to remind the world that a diplomat's pen is also a weapon of war. And that the wars of the 90's began with the stroke of a diplomat's pen. And that during that time political considerations and lust for larger economic markets and political spheres of influence took on greater importance than maintaining established order -- or in the orderly breakup of a country.

Serbia will not stop reminding these actors of their complicity in the wars of the 90's. Which is really not very different than their complicity in the Mid-east wars we now see.

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly, and not the way they did in the 90's. To blame Serbia for their far greater crime is bullsh*t.

Leadership means that you need to lead (not hide behind straw men).

Of these actors Berlin and London are the most complicit.
(factman, 5 January 2017 16:37)

Serbia wants to destabilize Kosova and possibly the region. The calculation is that with that, they may either take all of it back or at least something back. The problem is that when you plant the seeds of war, you never know for sure what you end up harvesting. They could get what they want but they could end up in a far worse position. We'll see how this provocation plays out. Serbia is playing with fire and possibly with the lives of its children. You may be back here 10 years from now and write the very same post; complaining.

J

pre 7 godina

Funny how "freedom fighter" in Albanian translates into "war criminal" in every other dictionary. Equally funny how Albanians who claim to be peace loving threaten all sorts of things when they don't get their way. Spoiled uneducated children, I say.
(Navi, 6 January 2017 17:04)

Funny how war criminal translates to Serb government official in every other dictionary.

Like spoiled kids the Serb are throwing a tantrum because international courts have found Haradinaj innocent twice. He didn't hide in military baracks either. You reap what you sow. A list of 59 arrest warrants for war crimes committed by Serbs just became public in Kosova. You keep pulling stupid stunts like this and keep making your list larger and pretty soon every Serb in Kosova will have a warrant against them.

Now go lock your house before the war criminal you're hiding is found by the Hague.

ida

pre 7 godina

Most of his victims were fellow ALBANIANS, I believe. But he and his people had at least 19 Albanian witnesses or their family members killed before his trail over crimes of moderate, non-KLA Albanians.

The non-violent, peaceful Albanians were terrorized by the KLA and this radicalized or made silent those ones.

twindales

pre 7 godina

What about the killings carried out on behalf of the Fascist State of Croatia set up during WW2? No one in the Western Balkans can look the other way. Killings on all sides were carried out so please don't just mention one ethnic group as the culprits.

factman

pre 7 godina

Does Serbia genuinely believe that extradition will take place or do they just want to periodically remind the world that they were victims too?

##

Serbia wants to remind the world that a diplomat's pen is also a weapon of war. And that the wars of the 90's began with the stroke of a diplomat's pen. And that during that time political considerations and lust for larger economic markets and political spheres of influence took on greater importance than maintaining established order -- or in the orderly breakup of a country.

Serbia will not stop reminding these actors of their complicity in the wars of the 90's. Which is really not very different than their complicity in the Mid-east wars we now see.

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly, and not the way they did in the 90's. To blame Serbia for their far greater crime is bullsh*t.

Leadership means that you need to lead (not hide behind straw men).

Of these actors Berlin and London are the most complicit.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Serbia's Infamous Department of Injustice has tried over 100 times to charge our Freedom Fighter with bogus allegations and yet he's accquited everytime.

Insanity is chronic charging which Serbs expecting to get favorable results.

Interpol and The International Community must never take Serb allegations seriously....

How serious would a reasonable person take a German Nazi " charging" European JEW for Genocide?????

And was ever happened in Kosova stays in Kosova ( Courts).

Avni

pre 7 godina

"Haradinaj će biti pušten kao što su i Tači, Agim Čeku..."
Azem Vlasi, advokat i savetnik kosovskog predsednika Hašima Tačija, uveren je da će Ramuš Haradinaj biti pušten na slobodu. Kako navodi, hapšenje Haradinaja je provokacija Srbije.

z

pre 7 godina

How serious would a reasonable person take a German Nazi " charging" European JEW for Genocide?????

And was ever happened in Kosova stays in Kosova ( Courts).
(Azir, 5 January 2017 18:25)

Engrish please.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Police officer Thaci was arrested in serbia last year , kept for a little while and he was let go . Why ??? Idk, now they're asking for this guy Haredinaj, they wish they never get him so they can look good " disappointed ". Slovenia arrest the same guy (haredinaj) last year I believe , how come Serbia did not get it then ?
(Tony Pocesta, 5 January 2017 14:44) # Com

To Tony the Shqip,
I think you will find that if haredinaj is sent to Belgrade ,then it is Thaci and Pristine ,that have sold him out .
Don't forget it is in Thaci interested for him to be lockup .

Albanian Orthodox

pre 7 godina

Someone is playing this poor guy.
He was drinking beer and watchin Albanian Football Team in June last year in the middle of France and no one bothered to stop him :)
Looks like all parts Serbia, Kosova (I doubt Thaci likes him much) and France f8cked him up this time because we all know how fair his fate will
go if he gets in Belgrade ;p

Italian Serbophile

pre 7 godina

It's funny how shiptars consider this pig a hero. Well, many in Third World consider Al-Baghdadi a hero...

Extradiction and the day after Serbia should restore death penalty and partial justice will have been made. Later it will be the turn of the Snake and other albanian coward fellows.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Police officer Thaci was arrested in serbia last year , kept for a little while and he was let go . Why ??? Idk, now they're asking for this guy Haredinaj, they wish they never get him so they can look good " disappointed ". Slovenia arrest the same guy (haredinaj) last year I believe , how come Serbia did not get it then ?

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Tony says that "all such criminals should be prosecuted" and it's hard to disagree. My question is, how many times should they be prosecuted? The bottom line is that Serbia is frustrated that they are, rightly or wrongly, considered to be the major guilty party of the Balkan conflicts and therefore cannot accept not guilty verdicts in the Hague against non-Serbs or the failure to issue an indictment after investigation of alleged offences. To try to change international perceptions they then attempt to (re-)try these people in Serbia and issue warrants accordingly. Several Bosnians have been arrested and released and the person in question in this case has been arrested in Slovenia and released. Does Serbia genuinely believe that extradition will take place or do they just want to periodically remind the world that they were victims too?

There are two key issues at stake here for the French. The first is whether there is sufficient evidence (as opposed to rumour and suspicion) that offences not previously considered by the Hague were committed. The second is whether Haradinaj will receive a fair trial in Serbia. I have no idea about the first of these not being party to any of the key information. As to the second, I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Dear ignorant Serbs:

Albania and others allies can't submit requests for thousands of Serbian War Criminals Wanted by Kosova's Department of Justice charging them with Genocide,War Crimes ,Crimes against Humanity,mass rapes,looting,arsons etc..to Interpole and bring these fugitives from justice in...

Albanians United will make your life just as uncomfortable....

William UK

pre 7 godina

Seems like everyone is missing the point here. The question here is whether Haradinaj will be extradited. The actual verdicts are known in advance. Hague = not guilty and Serbia = guilty regardless of the evidence. These are political decisions.

So if he is extradited then it signals a change in western policy, which wouldn't surprise me.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Albanians rushing to defend their "Mladic", their "Oric" and their "Gotovina". They claim to be victims and then defend their own war criminals, drug traffickers, and warlords.

Can any Albanian here logically argue why this man should NOT be in jail? Can anyone here actually argue why Kosovo would NOT be better off with scum like these removed from the public?

icj1

pre 7 godina

Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 January 2017 20:35)

That's a good point. So, according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.

icj1

pre 7 godina

a "fair trial" in Serbia is dependent on which jurisdiction tries him.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 January 2017 17:21)

Why? How many jurisdictions are there in Serbia? Isn't Serbia a single country?!

novi sad

pre 7 godina

Good to see another criminal will get what is coming to him. With over approx 75% of Milosevic's regime having already been convicted and tried by the Kangaroo courts it would be nice to see these Albo scum along with Croats and Bosnians get their just rewards.

ivan

pre 7 godina

If Serbia extradites this freedom fighter who is considered nothing short of a hero by a majority in the Republic of Kosova, a balkan tsunami will be unleashed upon Serbia with severe consequences! Tread carefully radical-Serbia, your putting your hands in ashes that still have red hot ambers lingering within!

Serbia is shaking in its boots! We're terrified of a potential attack by Albanians. Don't worry, we'll respond symmetrically. We're calling up our elders(women of 75 years and up)and a few high school kids. Bring it on Bro!!!!!!!

icj1

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them?
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

I wrote nowhere that "K&M Srbs" should be stopped from having a referendum to leave "Kosovo"...
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Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

I'm not sure who these "everyone" were because out of the 8 entities (6 republics and 2 autonomous provinces) which made up Yugoslavia, 6 did not feel "safer" in a "larger crowd" and decided to leave, as decided in popular referendums in each of those 6 entities.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Funny how "freedom fighter" in Albanian translates into "war criminal" in every other dictionary. Equally funny how Albanians who claim to be peace loving threaten all sorts of things when they don't get their way. Spoiled uneducated children, I say.

rote

pre 7 godina

All such criminals should be prosecuted.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

what about the Brits who killed more than Hitler did?

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"It is all about Haradinaj invitation to Trump presidential ceremony.
srps got no invitation and are using any ugly trick to cloud his invitation. Srps will be always the same , dirty, unprincipled,unshamed,unhuman...
(delon"

He will answer for his crimes on Serbs, that scumbag. There is a nice, warm jail cell for him to the rest of his evil life. He will be able to learn to read and write (as you should, too) and to respect superior people than his own people.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Totally indifferent to Haradinaj, they can send him to Serbia for all I care. I do have a query though, considering that lawyers in the Hague could not find sufficient evidence to send him to jail, how will Serbia prove his guilt?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbian President - war criminal
Serbian Prime Minister - war criminal
Serbian Foreign Minister - war criminal

In addition, all three of them were part of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milosevic, that both committed genocide in Bosnia and attempted ethnic cleansing in Kosova. Wash your mouths before you speak of Haradinaj, you dirty Slobos.
(Tell it as it is, 6 January 2017 17:58) # C

Tell it as it is ,
Yeh ,first their was no.Serbia 1999 ,and no Serbian President ,Prime minister or foreign minister.
Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha

icj1

pre 7 godina

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly
(factman, 5 January 2017 16:37)

Exactly, and the taking apart of Yugoslavia by its constitutive units is an example of that. Each of the units that made up the federation (except for Serbia and Vojvodina) had a referendum and decided to leave Yugoslavia in a responsible way, without using force against any of the other units.

J

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them? When Srbs in Croatia voted not to be part of Croatia, why the war?
In my opinion, people did not want to live in a "new" country that was run by people that saw as enemies! Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd, but when it was broken up, everyone scrambled and jockied
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

The Serbs can have a referendum to leave. We Albanians don't stop them, won't stop them. We won't help them cause they didn't help and are not helping us but we don't stop them. However you do have the wrong address. Those who are stopping them reside in Belgrade. If K. Serbs go, then they no longer can make any arguments about the rest of Kosova's population. As a matter of fact, check B92's news from 3-4 years ago. Serbia stopped such attempts as the idea has been floating around for a while.

Joni

pre 7 godina

No ,it didn't exist as a country in 1999 ,only as a state. It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 8 January 2017 22:49)

Well, you don’t know your own history to. When was created the Serbian state and did it included KOSOVO in?
The answers is Serbian state was created in ….., and NO – Kosovo was not part of SERBIAN state.
So, if we go back in history we learn that KOSOVO was not part of Serbian state. Serbia invade Kosovo on WWI, and made a lot of massacres on Albanian population.
All the Europeans who learn that, are all ignorant, just Serbs are smarter, even though you have lowest IQ than Albanians.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Because he had his day in court at Hague and was found NOT GUILTY.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 6 January 2017 22:23)

I should have prefaced "without witnesses dying, disappearing, or suddenly changing their story". I figured that was self evident, but I forgot I'm trying to get an answer from Albanian trolls who glorify war criminals as heroes because they believe "not guilty" means he really didn't do anything, and not because the case was thrown out due to sudden lack of witnesses. My mistake.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"Totally indifferent to Haradinaj, they can send him to Serbia for all I care. I do have a query though, considering that lawyers in the Hague could not find sufficient evidence to send him to jail, how will Serbia prove his guilt?
(Nikolle"

It's easy. That was kangaroo court not a real court. There are plenty evidence for his war crimes.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"It's easy. That was kangaroo court not a real court. There are plenty evidence for his war crimes."

Did the persecutors in the Hague see that evidence?

Jovan

pre 7 godina

Only in a fake jmmitation of a "state", such a reckless criminal is given diplomatic documents...

My dear k-albanian friends, don't you see what is wrong with you?

Do you really not see?

I think there's a lot disappointment ahead for the Albanians in the future...

And Mr. Touchy's helpless attempts to lick the russian boot are speaking for themselves...

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

William UK: If you believe that these decisions are political as opposed to evidence based, it is highly unlikely that France will be the first to 'break cover'. They have a very close relationship with Kosovo. One of the problems that I encountered throughout my time in Bosnia was the concept of evidence, in contrast to rumour, innuendo or hearsay. For many in the Balkans it is enough for them to believe something if a person in authority from a faction/national background they support says it is so. They do not seek corroboration and in fact contribute to the authentication of the rumour by passing it along as established truth. At this time of year our football columns in the UK are full of transfer rumours, very few of which come to pass. The same is true of much that appears in the press in BiH, it is there to please those who read the paper rather than to inform them.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

LOL: I suppose one argument from Kosovan Albanians might be that two of the three people you mentioned are not in jail so why should their person be. Mladic would have done well not to go on live TV being broadcast across the world and tip everyone off about what he and his men were about to do, perhaps then he would be free as well.

On a different matter, Happy Christmas to all those celebrating today.

rote

pre 7 godina

Does he come from Kurdistan?

(shkipkurd, 7 January 2017 03:14)


Word KURD has two components and none of them is ethnical. K-URD = K-URDU = K-ORDA = K-HORDE. It was the way the Horde's troops were marked in the ME. Kurdians (Hordians) were colonial armies of the White Horde. That's why they live apart from one another in several countries and that's why their language differs so much as well as their happlogroups. Just because the hordes were formed in different parts of the empire. And they married local women who also were different in Iran or Syria or A-Natol. Letter "K" is most often met in marking the hordes. It could mean either Cossack or Kniaz. Thus K-URD was either Kniaz Horde or Cossack Horde.

Second big classification were P-ORDA = P-ORTA. They controlled south of Europe, Africa and America plus all the ports. So word PASSPORT meant PASS P-ORTA i.e. a document that one legally passed the P-Horde. Either he has paid the tax or he was free from paying taxes. Most likely P-Orta meant Osmanian part of the Great Horde. Anyways KURDS never payed any taxes as they belonged to the caste of warriors.

PS A very strange Kurd you are ...

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 January 2017 20:35)

That's a good point. So, according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.
(icj1, 8 January 2017 01:40)

No ,it didn't exist as a country in 1999 ,only as a state. It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!

rote

pre 7 godina

a question for Rote

From what come the name Rossi

i would like detailed answer

Thank You Russian friend
(adi_bucharest, 5 January 2017 10:15)


1/ Then let us talk as two Russians should talk because in all Russian chronicles Romanians/Wallah/Moldovans are mentioned as Rus/Slavic people.

2/ In the Ottoman empire all Orthodox peoples ( Rus, Shqiptars, Greeks, Moldovans, Serbs ect.) were in one of the 4 official milliets (nations) and it was called Milliet-i Rum = People of Rome. It was headed by the Greek Patriarchs and was absolutely autonomus. As you know none of the Slavs or the Shqiptars have ever been part of the fake Rome on the Appenines. Because it existed only on paper and the Ottomans knew it very well where the real Rome was. It was on the Balkans (Romey, Tsar Grad, Troy, Jerusalem ect.) on Bosphorus and then in 15 century it moved to Veliki Novgorod. Balkans were the Metropolis of the Byzantine and later of the Ottomans.

3/ Russia is a German word for the Rus (Русь) and it appeared in the 18th century only. During the Mongol Tatar Roman empire Rus people called their state ALL RUS = ВСЯ РУСЬ.

4/ Turkish Sultans were pure Rus and spoke old Rus language and SLOVENSKI as the literate language of the empire. In Russia this language was known as Serbian Church Language. This language dominated in Topkapi residence of the Sultans and the High Court of Constantinople. Some of the Sultans never abandoned Rus.

to be continued

justhetruth

pre 7 godina

and where Balkan country's want to go? in EU? oh no f..k no way not yet no we want to work for 300 eu and support or corrupted brotherhood who "cares" if other don't have to eat. this is the way how cookie crumbles down there...seems like never will be a peace over there but e easy bite for others how they can make fool of yourselves yes and im saying for all the balkan nation a small match and boom a big fire ready to go is that a SAD story for all of you?

rote

pre 7 godina

In 2016 there were radical changes on the world stage. They give the peoples of the peninsula to rule out of the trap of the 90s. From this point any raising the stakes I find counterproductive. After all Ramush is just another bandit who no longer enjoys support of most of the Whites. Together with the provocative statements of Dacic and the attempt of Nokolic to visit KIM it looks like a coordinated step to start bargaining before the inauguration. God knows how wise it is but I would behave more cautious if I were to deside. Of course the reconciliation process is to be a package deal but raising so many issues at the time may bring the region to another deadlock I think. Besides all current elites depend on the west where many still prefer disintegrited Balkans rather than prospering. We need to start thinking in a new way but to do that we must stop thinking the way we did. Unfortunately most of us are programmed to confrontation and this inertion forse is very strong ...

rote

pre 7 godina

i would like detailed answer

Thank You Russian friend

(adi_bucharest, 5 January 2017 10:15)

5/ There are two different words that sound similar. One is RUS and the other is ROS. RUS (РУСЫЙ) means BLOND or WHITE while ROS is a short form of ROSSEIANE (РОССЕЯНЕ) i.e. the DISSIPATED/ DISPERSED because greater part of the Rus people forever stayed in their colonies in Europe, America, Africa, Asia ect.

6/ Word "Rossi" is just a reflection of the former empire. There are plenty of such toponimals and ethnonimals all over the world. Many Rus people added them to their names and many non Rus also used them to increase their status. So we have plenty of Rus, Ros, Ross, Rossius, Roussos, Rusev, Rosso, Rossini, Prussia, Borussia, Brussels, Roussillon ect.

7/ There are a lot of other words aiming at the Rus roots of places and people but we do not notice them ... Bazel, Honduras, Hamburg, Johanesburg, Habsburg, Milan, Torino, Paris, Valencia, Cambridge, Walles, Bologna, Paris, Belgium, Nevada, Ontario, Kentucy, California, Istanbul, Bejing, Coney Island, Auckland ect. ect.

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them? When Srbs in Croatia voted not to be part of Croatia, why the war?
In my opinion, people did not want to live in a "new" country that was run by people that saw as enemies! Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd, but when it was broken up, everyone scrambled and jockied

rote

pre 7 godina

according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.
(icj1, 8 January 2017 01:40)

It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!

(sasa.p from near Jagodina)

Untill you stick to the current version of the Serbian history you'll be receiving such silly accusations. To quit with it you need to ask yoursef simple questions. Was Balkans metropolis or colony of the Ottomans? How could people like Pasha Sokologlu rule the empire if they were slaves? Why did the sides abandon Kosovo after the bitka? And how come that the virtual Serbian aristocracy has stopped to exist in 1389? Why did the Serbs save the empire in 1402 when it stopped to exist? How came that during the Napoleon wars Russian troops and the Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgarians spoke the same language? Why were the first sultans born and burries in Adrianopole (Erdine)? Why did Belgrade receive this name if it wasn't made of white stones? What does BAL CAN mean? How come that in mediaeval Tibet there were so many Serbian toponymals? How come the the first time Russia is mentioned in the Turkish history is the fall of the 16 century only? ect. ect.

SuverenaAnonimka

pre 7 godina

SERBIA IS SUPPORTED BY RUSSIA NOW and can ask justice for the first time after the criminal NATO aggression and its sovereignty destruction in 1999!

Even a 14 days old Serbian baby was a victim of Albanian Muslim separatist Haridinaj in 1998 - it was BEFORE USA BOMBED SERBIA and supported Islamic Albanian Muslims in Kosovo : http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Hronika/626584/Stravicna-prica-o-Haradinajevim-zlocinima-Ubili-su-bebu-od-14-dana ( for translation use https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr&tab=TT )

Here are the results of USA /Vatican criminal support to Albanian mafia:
-European drug market is almost entirely in Albanian mafia hands that deals Afghnaistan's heroin
-World's Human Organ trafficking is in Albanian hands too
-almost all Orthodox churches in Kosovo are destroyed : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0I5cxkHT_8&t=6s
-chief drug/organ dealer is the very PM of "self-proclaimed" Kosovo, Mister Thaci
-the "Frankenstein State Kosovo" lives from pure crime
-Serbian lands/resources were stolen and given to USA colonialists as gifts for successful destroying of Serbia
-criminals are protected in Kosovo and Serbs must leave own homes, lands, wealth...
... there is no security, justice, peace.. in Kosoov any more !

Bahri

pre 7 godina

When I hear Serbs and Serbian Government call other countries people Criminals make me Laugh. Only Criminals are Serbs. We all remember Bosnja, Kosovo, Croatia. Massacres. Serbs always try to play victims and real victims Serbs try to make them Criminals.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Look at all the Albanians and the one token Croat defending one of Kosovo's biggest thug, murderer, terrorist, and all around scum. The best thing for everyone concerned would be for Haradinaj to meet an unfortunate "accident" in his cell and the world can be rid of his miserable existence. Maybe a knife to the back which can then be called a suicide, or however it is inconvenient Albanian criminals wind up dead.

LOL

pre 7 godina

Albanians rushing to defend their "Mladic", their "Oric" and their "Gotovina". They claim to be victims and then defend their own war criminals, drug traffickers, and warlords.

Can any Albanian here logically argue why this man should NOT be in jail? Can anyone here actually argue why Kosovo would NOT be better off with scum like these removed from the public?

delon

pre 7 godina

It is all about Haradinaj invitation to Trump presidential ceremony.
srps got no invitation and are using any ugly trick to cloud his invitation. Srps will be always the same , dirty, unprincipled,unshamed,unhuman...

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbian President - war criminal
Serbian Prime Minister - war criminal
Serbian Foreign Minister - war criminal

In addition, all three of them were part of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milosevic, that both committed genocide in Bosnia and attempted ethnic cleansing in Kosova. Wash your mouths before you speak of Haradinaj, you dirty Slobos.
(Tell it as it is, 6 January 2017 17:58) # C

Tell it as it is ,
Yeh ,first their was no.Serbia 1999 ,and no Serbian President ,Prime minister or foreign minister.
Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha

Peter the Rocky Mountains

pre 7 godina

If Serbia extradites this freedom fighter who is considered nothing short of a hero by a majority in the Republic of Kosova, a balkan tsunami will be unleashed upon Serbia with severe consequences! Tread carefully radical-Serbia, your putting your hands in ashes that still have red hot ambers lingering within!

Italian Serbophile

pre 7 godina

It's funny how shiptars consider this pig a hero. Well, many in Third World consider Al-Baghdadi a hero...

Extradiction and the day after Serbia should restore death penalty and partial justice will have been made. Later it will be the turn of the Snake and other albanian coward fellows.

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"It is all about Haradinaj invitation to Trump presidential ceremony.
srps got no invitation and are using any ugly trick to cloud his invitation. Srps will be always the same , dirty, unprincipled,unshamed,unhuman...
(delon"

He will answer for his crimes on Serbs, that scumbag. There is a nice, warm jail cell for him to the rest of his evil life. He will be able to learn to read and write (as you should, too) and to respect superior people than his own people.

Azir

pre 7 godina

Serbia's Infamous Department of Injustice has tried over 100 times to charge our Freedom Fighter with bogus allegations and yet he's accquited everytime.

Insanity is chronic charging which Serbs expecting to get favorable results.

Interpol and The International Community must never take Serb allegations seriously....

How serious would a reasonable person take a German Nazi " charging" European JEW for Genocide?????

And was ever happened in Kosova stays in Kosova ( Courts).

ida

pre 7 godina

Most of his victims were fellow ALBANIANS, I believe. But he and his people had at least 19 Albanian witnesses or their family members killed before his trail over crimes of moderate, non-KLA Albanians.

The non-violent, peaceful Albanians were terrorized by the KLA and this radicalized or made silent those ones.

Navi

pre 7 godina

Funny how "freedom fighter" in Albanian translates into "war criminal" in every other dictionary. Equally funny how Albanians who claim to be peace loving threaten all sorts of things when they don't get their way. Spoiled uneducated children, I say.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 7 godina

The second is whether Haradinaj will receive a fair trial in Serbia...I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

(ned taylor, 5 January 2017 15:19)

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Well Mr. Taylor, your suspicions and prejudices may be correct and a "fair trial" in Serbia is dependent on which jurisdiction tries him. I agree that he has a better chance with an impartial judiciary in Belgrade versus the corrupt EULEX judicial farce currently in place in Serbia's southern province. Thank you for reminding us about the high levels of foreign judicial corruption, not only in parts of Serbia, but also currently contaminating Constitutional Courts of other Yugoslav republics.

z

pre 7 godina

How serious would a reasonable person take a German Nazi " charging" European JEW for Genocide?????

And was ever happened in Kosova stays in Kosova ( Courts).
(Azir, 5 January 2017 18:25)

Engrish please.

Joni

pre 7 godina

Ramush is a hero! Why is a criminal? Because he did not stay sit to see when the criminal state of Serbia send its army to kill the inoncent Albanian people? For that? He faught whith solders not whith women and children like Serbs did in Albanian villages. How many Serbian criminals are under Serbian protection after what they did? How many of them are guilty of crimes made on inoncent people in Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo,so send them in these countries!

eric

pre 7 godina

looks like interpol need to update their data, this guy was arrested before in slovenia for the same thing. Serbs on the other hands have criminals and terrorists in their government and street. Let alone the mass human caves lingering all over belgrade. Serbia=the cradle of human killings.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Come on Serbia this is your Second chance , first Slovenia and now France . You can have him if you want him , France is offering him to you . Let's see what you can do about it,and please don't disappoint me

Captain Kosova

pre 7 godina

Serbia is just salty that 3/4ths of their leadership in government and from the military are rotting away in Hague prisons for crimes against humanity. They try to save face and feel better about themselves by putting out arrest warrants that nobody will ever execute and extradite the person back to Serbia.

Serbias National Anthem:
I can't get no satisfaction, I can't get no satisfaction
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no......

LOL! You guys will get a big fat "trrt"

RighteousBilly

pre 7 godina

"Totally indifferent to Haradinaj, they can send him to Serbia for all I care. I do have a query though, considering that lawyers in the Hague could not find sufficient evidence to send him to jail, how will Serbia prove his guilt?
(Nikolle"

It's easy. That was kangaroo court not a real court. There are plenty evidence for his war crimes.

Jovan

pre 7 godina

Only in a fake jmmitation of a "state", such a reckless criminal is given diplomatic documents...

My dear k-albanian friends, don't you see what is wrong with you?

Do you really not see?

I think there's a lot disappointment ahead for the Albanians in the future...

And Mr. Touchy's helpless attempts to lick the russian boot are speaking for themselves...

LOL

pre 7 godina

Because he had his day in court at Hague and was found NOT GUILTY.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 6 January 2017 22:23)

I should have prefaced "without witnesses dying, disappearing, or suddenly changing their story". I figured that was self evident, but I forgot I'm trying to get an answer from Albanian trolls who glorify war criminals as heroes because they believe "not guilty" means he really didn't do anything, and not because the case was thrown out due to sudden lack of witnesses. My mistake.

Tell it as it is

pre 7 godina

Serbian President - war criminal
Serbian Prime Minister - war criminal
Serbian Foreign Minister - war criminal

In addition, all three of them were part of the Serbian government of Slobodan Milosevic, that both committed genocide in Bosnia and attempted ethnic cleansing in Kosova. Wash your mouths before you speak of Haradinaj, you dirty Slobos.

factman

pre 7 godina

Does Serbia genuinely believe that extradition will take place or do they just want to periodically remind the world that they were victims too?

##

Serbia wants to remind the world that a diplomat's pen is also a weapon of war. And that the wars of the 90's began with the stroke of a diplomat's pen. And that during that time political considerations and lust for larger economic markets and political spheres of influence took on greater importance than maintaining established order -- or in the orderly breakup of a country.

Serbia will not stop reminding these actors of their complicity in the wars of the 90's. Which is really not very different than their complicity in the Mid-east wars we now see.

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly, and not the way they did in the 90's. To blame Serbia for their far greater crime is bullsh*t.

Leadership means that you need to lead (not hide behind straw men).

Of these actors Berlin and London are the most complicit.

novi sad

pre 7 godina

Good to see another criminal will get what is coming to him. With over approx 75% of Milosevic's regime having already been convicted and tried by the Kangaroo courts it would be nice to see these Albo scum along with Croats and Bosnians get their just rewards.

ivan

pre 7 godina

If Serbia extradites this freedom fighter who is considered nothing short of a hero by a majority in the Republic of Kosova, a balkan tsunami will be unleashed upon Serbia with severe consequences! Tread carefully radical-Serbia, your putting your hands in ashes that still have red hot ambers lingering within!

Serbia is shaking in its boots! We're terrified of a potential attack by Albanians. Don't worry, we'll respond symmetrically. We're calling up our elders(women of 75 years and up)and a few high school kids. Bring it on Bro!!!!!!!

Azir

pre 7 godina

Dear ignorant Serbs:

Albania and others allies can't submit requests for thousands of Serbian War Criminals Wanted by Kosova's Department of Justice charging them with Genocide,War Crimes ,Crimes against Humanity,mass rapes,looting,arsons etc..to Interpole and bring these fugitives from justice in...

Albanians United will make your life just as uncomfortable....

William UK

pre 7 godina

Seems like everyone is missing the point here. The question here is whether Haradinaj will be extradited. The actual verdicts are known in advance. Hague = not guilty and Serbia = guilty regardless of the evidence. These are political decisions.

So if he is extradited then it signals a change in western policy, which wouldn't surprise me.

J

pre 7 godina

Funny how "freedom fighter" in Albanian translates into "war criminal" in every other dictionary. Equally funny how Albanians who claim to be peace loving threaten all sorts of things when they don't get their way. Spoiled uneducated children, I say.
(Navi, 6 January 2017 17:04)

Funny how war criminal translates to Serb government official in every other dictionary.

Like spoiled kids the Serb are throwing a tantrum because international courts have found Haradinaj innocent twice. He didn't hide in military baracks either. You reap what you sow. A list of 59 arrest warrants for war crimes committed by Serbs just became public in Kosova. You keep pulling stupid stunts like this and keep making your list larger and pretty soon every Serb in Kosova will have a warrant against them.

Now go lock your house before the war criminal you're hiding is found by the Hague.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

Can any Albanian here logically argue why this man should NOT be in jail?...
(LOL, 6 January 2017 20:12)

Because he had his day in court at Hague and was found NOT GUILTY.

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Police officer Thaci was arrested in serbia last year , kept for a little while and he was let go . Why ??? Idk, now they're asking for this guy Haredinaj, they wish they never get him so they can look good " disappointed ". Slovenia arrest the same guy (haredinaj) last year I believe , how come Serbia did not get it then ?
(Tony Pocesta, 5 January 2017 14:44) # Com

To Tony the Shqip,
I think you will find that if haredinaj is sent to Belgrade ,then it is Thaci and Pristine ,that have sold him out .
Don't forget it is in Thaci interested for him to be lockup .

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 7 godina

...I agree that he has a better chance with an impartial judiciary in Belgrade ... (Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 January 2017 17:21)...

I advice you to quit whatever your are smoking.
Drugs are bad for your body and your state of mind.

J

pre 7 godina

Serbia wants to remind the world that a diplomat's pen is also a weapon of war. And that the wars of the 90's began with the stroke of a diplomat's pen. And that during that time political considerations and lust for larger economic markets and political spheres of influence took on greater importance than maintaining established order -- or in the orderly breakup of a country.

Serbia will not stop reminding these actors of their complicity in the wars of the 90's. Which is really not very different than their complicity in the Mid-east wars we now see.

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly, and not the way they did in the 90's. To blame Serbia for their far greater crime is bullsh*t.

Leadership means that you need to lead (not hide behind straw men).

Of these actors Berlin and London are the most complicit.
(factman, 5 January 2017 16:37)

Serbia wants to destabilize Kosova and possibly the region. The calculation is that with that, they may either take all of it back or at least something back. The problem is that when you plant the seeds of war, you never know for sure what you end up harvesting. They could get what they want but they could end up in a far worse position. We'll see how this provocation plays out. Serbia is playing with fire and possibly with the lives of its children. You may be back here 10 years from now and write the very same post; complaining.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

"It's easy. That was kangaroo court not a real court. There are plenty evidence for his war crimes."

Did the persecutors in the Hague see that evidence?

Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

pre 7 godina

To Izcojx: I do not have to remind you that murder, killings, terrorism and genocide were carried out by criminal elements of all ethnic groups of the Western Balkans, with the exception of Slovenians. All such criminals should be prosecuted.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

Tony says that "all such criminals should be prosecuted" and it's hard to disagree. My question is, how many times should they be prosecuted? The bottom line is that Serbia is frustrated that they are, rightly or wrongly, considered to be the major guilty party of the Balkan conflicts and therefore cannot accept not guilty verdicts in the Hague against non-Serbs or the failure to issue an indictment after investigation of alleged offences. To try to change international perceptions they then attempt to (re-)try these people in Serbia and issue warrants accordingly. Several Bosnians have been arrested and released and the person in question in this case has been arrested in Slovenia and released. Does Serbia genuinely believe that extradition will take place or do they just want to periodically remind the world that they were victims too?

There are two key issues at stake here for the French. The first is whether there is sufficient evidence (as opposed to rumour and suspicion) that offences not previously considered by the Hague were committed. The second is whether Haradinaj will receive a fair trial in Serbia. I have no idea about the first of these not being party to any of the key information. As to the second, I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

Albanian Orthodox

pre 7 godina

Someone is playing this poor guy.
He was drinking beer and watchin Albanian Football Team in June last year in the middle of France and no one bothered to stop him :)
Looks like all parts Serbia, Kosova (I doubt Thaci likes him much) and France f8cked him up this time because we all know how fair his fate will
go if he gets in Belgrade ;p

icj1

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them?
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

I wrote nowhere that "K&M Srbs" should be stopped from having a referendum to leave "Kosovo"...
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Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

I'm not sure who these "everyone" were because out of the 8 entities (6 republics and 2 autonomous provinces) which made up Yugoslavia, 6 did not feel "safer" in a "larger crowd" and decided to leave, as decided in popular referendums in each of those 6 entities.

twindales

pre 7 godina

What about the killings carried out on behalf of the Fascist State of Croatia set up during WW2? No one in the Western Balkans can look the other way. Killings on all sides were carried out so please don't just mention one ethnic group as the culprits.

rote

pre 7 godina

i would like detailed answer

Thank You Russian friend

(adi_bucharest, 5 January 2017 10:15)

5/ There are two different words that sound similar. One is RUS and the other is ROS. RUS (РУСЫЙ) means BLOND or WHITE while ROS is a short form of ROSSEIANE (РОССЕЯНЕ) i.e. the DISSIPATED/ DISPERSED because greater part of the Rus people forever stayed in their colonies in Europe, America, Africa, Asia ect.

6/ Word "Rossi" is just a reflection of the former empire. There are plenty of such toponimals and ethnonimals all over the world. Many Rus people added them to their names and many non Rus also used them to increase their status. So we have plenty of Rus, Ros, Ross, Rossius, Roussos, Rusev, Rosso, Rossini, Prussia, Borussia, Brussels, Roussillon ect.

7/ There are a lot of other words aiming at the Rus roots of places and people but we do not notice them ... Bazel, Honduras, Hamburg, Johanesburg, Habsburg, Milan, Torino, Paris, Valencia, Cambridge, Walles, Bologna, Paris, Belgium, Nevada, Ontario, Kentucy, California, Istanbul, Bejing, Coney Island, Auckland ect. ect.

Tony Pocesta

pre 7 godina

Police officer Thaci was arrested in serbia last year , kept for a little while and he was let go . Why ??? Idk, now they're asking for this guy Haredinaj, they wish they never get him so they can look good " disappointed ". Slovenia arrest the same guy (haredinaj) last year I believe , how come Serbia did not get it then ?

Avni

pre 7 godina

"Haradinaj će biti pušten kao što su i Tači, Agim Čeku..."
Azem Vlasi, advokat i savetnik kosovskog predsednika Hašima Tačija, uveren je da će Ramuš Haradinaj biti pušten na slobodu. Kako navodi, hapšenje Haradinaja je provokacija Srbije.

Nikolle

pre 7 godina

Totally indifferent to Haradinaj, they can send him to Serbia for all I care. I do have a query though, considering that lawyers in the Hague could not find sufficient evidence to send him to jail, how will Serbia prove his guilt?

sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

pre 7 godina

Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 January 2017 20:35)

That's a good point. So, according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.
(icj1, 8 January 2017 01:40)

No ,it didn't exist as a country in 1999 ,only as a state. It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!

rote

pre 7 godina

a question for Rote

From what come the name Rossi

i would like detailed answer

Thank You Russian friend
(adi_bucharest, 5 January 2017 10:15)


1/ Then let us talk as two Russians should talk because in all Russian chronicles Romanians/Wallah/Moldovans are mentioned as Rus/Slavic people.

2/ In the Ottoman empire all Orthodox peoples ( Rus, Shqiptars, Greeks, Moldovans, Serbs ect.) were in one of the 4 official milliets (nations) and it was called Milliet-i Rum = People of Rome. It was headed by the Greek Patriarchs and was absolutely autonomus. As you know none of the Slavs or the Shqiptars have ever been part of the fake Rome on the Appenines. Because it existed only on paper and the Ottomans knew it very well where the real Rome was. It was on the Balkans (Romey, Tsar Grad, Troy, Jerusalem ect.) on Bosphorus and then in 15 century it moved to Veliki Novgorod. Balkans were the Metropolis of the Byzantine and later of the Ottomans.

3/ Russia is a German word for the Rus (Русь) and it appeared in the 18th century only. During the Mongol Tatar Roman empire Rus people called their state ALL RUS = ВСЯ РУСЬ.

4/ Turkish Sultans were pure Rus and spoke old Rus language and SLOVENSKI as the literate language of the empire. In Russia this language was known as Serbian Church Language. This language dominated in Topkapi residence of the Sultans and the High Court of Constantinople. Some of the Sultans never abandoned Rus.

to be continued

J

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them? When Srbs in Croatia voted not to be part of Croatia, why the war?
In my opinion, people did not want to live in a "new" country that was run by people that saw as enemies! Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd, but when it was broken up, everyone scrambled and jockied
(Watcher, 6 January 2017 12:15)

The Serbs can have a referendum to leave. We Albanians don't stop them, won't stop them. We won't help them cause they didn't help and are not helping us but we don't stop them. However you do have the wrong address. Those who are stopping them reside in Belgrade. If K. Serbs go, then they no longer can make any arguments about the rest of Kosova's population. As a matter of fact, check B92's news from 3-4 years ago. Serbia stopped such attempts as the idea has been floating around for a while.

rote

pre 7 godina

In 2016 there were radical changes on the world stage. They give the peoples of the peninsula to rule out of the trap of the 90s. From this point any raising the stakes I find counterproductive. After all Ramush is just another bandit who no longer enjoys support of most of the Whites. Together with the provocative statements of Dacic and the attempt of Nokolic to visit KIM it looks like a coordinated step to start bargaining before the inauguration. God knows how wise it is but I would behave more cautious if I were to deside. Of course the reconciliation process is to be a package deal but raising so many issues at the time may bring the region to another deadlock I think. Besides all current elites depend on the west where many still prefer disintegrited Balkans rather than prospering. We need to start thinking in a new way but to do that we must stop thinking the way we did. Unfortunately most of us are programmed to confrontation and this inertion forse is very strong ...

rote

pre 7 godina

All such criminals should be prosecuted.
(Tony (a Brit currently working in Berlin)

what about the Brits who killed more than Hitler did?

icj1

pre 7 godina

If a country is to be taken apart, then it is their obligation to take it apart responsibly
(factman, 5 January 2017 16:37)

Exactly, and the taking apart of Yugoslavia by its constitutive units is an example of that. Each of the units that made up the federation (except for Serbia and Vojvodina) had a referendum and decided to leave Yugoslavia in a responsible way, without using force against any of the other units.

icj1

pre 7 godina

a "fair trial" in Serbia is dependent on which jurisdiction tries him.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 5 January 2017 17:21)

Why? How many jurisdictions are there in Serbia? Isn't Serbia a single country?!

Watcher

pre 7 godina

@icj1- per your logic, if K&M Srbs had a referandem to leave "Kosovo", why try to stop them? When Srbs in Croatia voted not to be part of Croatia, why the war?
In my opinion, people did not want to live in a "new" country that was run by people that saw as enemies! Yugoslavia was somewhat able to put everybody together with everyone feeling "safer" in a larger crowd, but when it was broken up, everyone scrambled and jockied

icj1

pre 7 godina

Serbia didn't exist as a country 1999, it became a lone country in 2006
How truthful are you , Hahaha.
Go back and learn history in your Shqip school ,idiot, Hahaha
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 January 2017 20:35)

That's a good point. So, according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.

justhetruth

pre 7 godina

and where Balkan country's want to go? in EU? oh no f..k no way not yet no we want to work for 300 eu and support or corrupted brotherhood who "cares" if other don't have to eat. this is the way how cookie crumbles down there...seems like never will be a peace over there but e easy bite for others how they can make fool of yourselves yes and im saying for all the balkan nation a small match and boom a big fire ready to go is that a SAD story for all of you?

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

LOL: I suppose one argument from Kosovan Albanians might be that two of the three people you mentioned are not in jail so why should their person be. Mladic would have done well not to go on live TV being broadcast across the world and tip everyone off about what he and his men were about to do, perhaps then he would be free as well.

On a different matter, Happy Christmas to all those celebrating today.

rote

pre 7 godina

Does he come from Kurdistan?

(shkipkurd, 7 January 2017 03:14)


Word KURD has two components and none of them is ethnical. K-URD = K-URDU = K-ORDA = K-HORDE. It was the way the Horde's troops were marked in the ME. Kurdians (Hordians) were colonial armies of the White Horde. That's why they live apart from one another in several countries and that's why their language differs so much as well as their happlogroups. Just because the hordes were formed in different parts of the empire. And they married local women who also were different in Iran or Syria or A-Natol. Letter "K" is most often met in marking the hordes. It could mean either Cossack or Kniaz. Thus K-URD was either Kniaz Horde or Cossack Horde.

Second big classification were P-ORDA = P-ORTA. They controlled south of Europe, Africa and America plus all the ports. So word PASSPORT meant PASS P-ORTA i.e. a document that one legally passed the P-Horde. Either he has paid the tax or he was free from paying taxes. Most likely P-Orta meant Osmanian part of the Great Horde. Anyways KURDS never payed any taxes as they belonged to the caste of warriors.

PS A very strange Kurd you are ...

Joni

pre 7 godina

No ,it didn't exist as a country in 1999 ,only as a state. It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 8 January 2017 22:49)

Well, you don’t know your own history to. When was created the Serbian state and did it included KOSOVO in?
The answers is Serbian state was created in ….., and NO – Kosovo was not part of SERBIAN state.
So, if we go back in history we learn that KOSOVO was not part of Serbian state. Serbia invade Kosovo on WWI, and made a lot of massacres on Albanian population.
All the Europeans who learn that, are all ignorant, just Serbs are smarter, even though you have lowest IQ than Albanians.

ned taylor

pre 7 godina

William UK: If you believe that these decisions are political as opposed to evidence based, it is highly unlikely that France will be the first to 'break cover'. They have a very close relationship with Kosovo. One of the problems that I encountered throughout my time in Bosnia was the concept of evidence, in contrast to rumour, innuendo or hearsay. For many in the Balkans it is enough for them to believe something if a person in authority from a faction/national background they support says it is so. They do not seek corroboration and in fact contribute to the authentication of the rumour by passing it along as established truth. At this time of year our football columns in the UK are full of transfer rumours, very few of which come to pass. The same is true of much that appears in the press in BiH, it is there to please those who read the paper rather than to inform them.

rote

pre 7 godina

according to you, the claim that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbia is nonsense since Serbia did not exist as a country until the 21st century.
(icj1, 8 January 2017 01:40)

It existed before 1918 as a lone country. You need to learn your history ,but again your Shqip school only teachers you to flee EU ghetto .
PS no culture or education (need learn to read ), !!

(sasa.p from near Jagodina)

Untill you stick to the current version of the Serbian history you'll be receiving such silly accusations. To quit with it you need to ask yoursef simple questions. Was Balkans metropolis or colony of the Ottomans? How could people like Pasha Sokologlu rule the empire if they were slaves? Why did the sides abandon Kosovo after the bitka? And how come that the virtual Serbian aristocracy has stopped to exist in 1389? Why did the Serbs save the empire in 1402 when it stopped to exist? How came that during the Napoleon wars Russian troops and the Serbs, Macedonians, Bulgarians spoke the same language? Why were the first sultans born and burries in Adrianopole (Erdine)? Why did Belgrade receive this name if it wasn't made of white stones? What does BAL CAN mean? How come that in mediaeval Tibet there were so many Serbian toponymals? How come the the first time Russia is mentioned in the Turkish history is the fall of the 16 century only? ect. ect.

SuverenaAnonimka

pre 7 godina

SERBIA IS SUPPORTED BY RUSSIA NOW and can ask justice for the first time after the criminal NATO aggression and its sovereignty destruction in 1999!

Even a 14 days old Serbian baby was a victim of Albanian Muslim separatist Haridinaj in 1998 - it was BEFORE USA BOMBED SERBIA and supported Islamic Albanian Muslims in Kosovo : http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Hronika/626584/Stravicna-prica-o-Haradinajevim-zlocinima-Ubili-su-bebu-od-14-dana ( for translation use https://translate.google.fr/?hl=fr&tab=TT )

Here are the results of USA /Vatican criminal support to Albanian mafia:
-European drug market is almost entirely in Albanian mafia hands that deals Afghnaistan's heroin
-World's Human Organ trafficking is in Albanian hands too
-almost all Orthodox churches in Kosovo are destroyed : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0I5cxkHT_8&t=6s
-chief drug/organ dealer is the very PM of "self-proclaimed" Kosovo, Mister Thaci
-the "Frankenstein State Kosovo" lives from pure crime
-Serbian lands/resources were stolen and given to USA colonialists as gifts for successful destroying of Serbia
-criminals are protected in Kosovo and Serbs must leave own homes, lands, wealth...
... there is no security, justice, peace.. in Kosoov any more !