Try hard as you may sj, you're still really bad at insults. This washing dishes thing is all you ever come up with. Really poor imagination you have.
Now, do forward in here a report that has ever accused the US army of sanctioned mass murder, in this case of 350K in Iraq. I guarantee you that you wont be able to do it.
As for the hospital in Afghanistan, tragic though it is, it does not fall under the definition of genocide, but for what it its worth no one can stop a persecutor of raisng charges against those responsible for it. Maybe you should take up the case
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 12:58)
Yes I understand now you studied Albanian law in Pristina so this is strange to you. I did not imply that the hospital was genocide but where are the indictments for murder??????
What you believe is immaterial. I am not aware that the US army, has ever been accused of killing 350K people in Iraq, nor has it ever been insinuated that army personnel ever sanctioned such a murder, you know, binding peoples hands hands, blindfolding them and then ordering a mass execution in cold blood. This is the difference between Srberenica and what has happened in Iraq.
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 12:25)
What you should have with your law degree, if you have one, stenciled on a dish towel to help you was dishes. Perhaps that's why you do not practice law.
In not what I believe but what is claimed by many western human rights groups. For your edification murder is murder whether you have hands tied or not except if this is an Albanian thing. You still have not answered the hospital in Afghanistan.
What you believe is immaterial. I am not aware that the US army, has ever been accused of killing 350K people in Iraq, nor has it ever been insinuated that army personnel ever sanctioned such a murder, you know, binding peoples hands hands, blindfolding them and then ordering a mass execution in cold blood. This is the difference between Srberenica and what has happened in Iraq.
Try hard as you may sj, you're still really bad at insults. This washing dishes thing is all you ever come up with. Really poor imagination you have.
Now, do forward in here a report that has ever accused the US army of sanctioned mass murder, in this case of 350K in Iraq. I guarantee you that you wont be able to do it.
As for the hospital in Afghanistan, tragic though it is, it does not fall under the definition of genocide, but for what it its worth no one can stop a persecutor of raisng charges against those responsible for it. Maybe you should take up the case
Is it 350K killed BY the US or as a result of sectarian violence? If the US army has indeed murdered 350K Iraqi civilians, then yes, they are guilty of genocide. Not aware that this is the case however, nor am I aware that anyone has ever insinuated this to be case
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 11:20)
I believe that number is correct that the US and their loved ones are responsible for. They estimate that in the first months of attack and occupation it was over 150 000 so where are the arrest warrants? What for 8000 the idiots declare it genocide but for 350,000 it, what democratically sanctioned killings?
As you have studies law they normally don’t wait for some to insinuate to issue arrest warrants.
Did they ever issue arrest warrants for the 20 employee killed by democratic bombing of that hospital in Afghanistan last October? Perhaps you have heard I certainly saw nothing of that nature.
Is it 350K killed BY the US or as a result of sectarian violence? If the US army has indeed murdered 350K Iraqi civilians, then yes, they are guilty of genocide. Not aware that this is the case however, nor am I aware that anyone has ever insinuated this to be case
sure there wasn't. there was no ethnic expulsion in Krajina either, Serbs have simply been on holiday since 1995
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 10:23)
Since 8000 is genocide then what is your definition of the 350,000 killed by the US and allies in Iraq and remember invasion of that country was never approved by the UN?
Sorry,SJ,
Gjon the Shqip is a Melbourne,St Kilda coffee lounge little boy drinker,not a Irish pub drinker, in Devonshire St, You can get good coffee in Crown Street,Surry Hills.
By ex- Surry Hills boy.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 12 July 2016 12:10)
I see you know Sydney. Yes Crown Street has some great coffee. Poor Gjon, he thinks he has caught me out on something but as I said before it would take someone much smarter than him to do it LOL.
He does make me laugh. Hey Gjon make sure those dishes are washed properly.
My, my I have gotten under your skin LOL. What are you on? I have never said I had a friend at the IMF. I have never said it was a friend from Perth who was at the Gaelic Club. So what are you on about? Your post makes no sense what so ever and it appears as ramblings and ranting about matters that I have not raised.
Your not drinking then hitting the keyboards are you because that is exactly what it appears to be? But do tell what have I made up so far?
On fact, many nations consider it irrelevant.
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
It does not matter. The UNSC, speaking on international community's behalf, says that ICTY is relevant. That's what matters.
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To call it "international" is to give it a designation that is partially true. Nealy 50% of the population of the world is not covered under its jurisdiction.
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
Everybody who committed grave violations of international humanitarian law in the territory of former Yugoslavia from 1991 onward in covered by ICTY's jurisdiction. Where did you find that only 50% of the world population is covered, mate?!
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1. Where does the funding for the international court come from?
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
The UN budget pays for ICTY's operations.
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2. Why do some nations that fund the court not recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
It's immaterial if a nation recognizes or not ICTY's jurisdiction. It is mandatory for all nations to cooperate with the ICTY because the UNSC has said so.
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
[link]
(sj, 12 July 2016 09:55)
Oh another friend of yours. First your friend at IMF, now your friend in Perth. Basically all you can offer is an fake interview without source of the author, hearsay from two "friends" and one link from globalresearch.ca (another fake news site).
Thumbs up Sj! Your story is just getting weaker and weaker the more you comment.
Your story so far is: I have no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about having no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about having no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about... I think you get it now.
The only good thing is you got your self a pet. sasa.p look how he`s craving for attention. Good boy.
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
[link]
(sj, 12 July 2016 09:55)
Sorry,SJ,
Gjon the Shqip is a Melbourne,St Kilda coffee lounge little boy drinker,not a Irish pub drinker, in Devonshire St, You can get good coffee in Crown Street,Surry Hills.
By ex- Surry Hills boy.
Instead of serbs having to deny something that is not a fact i wish those that do consider Srebrenica to be a genocide to motivate why and how? Obviously they can't? They just want serbs to admit to something because that's how it used to be and because they say so. I wonder if Bosnia and Albania recognized the turkish killing of armenians as genocide? Certainly not! Not to mention Jasenovac? We are dealing with hypocrites of the worst kind.
Serbia, don't admit something you are not guilty of!
I never said that Robert Baer was my friend nor did I ever say that I knew him. I quoted what was said in the article. You are not that bright to catch me out on anything. I thought Muslims don’t drink. You have now proven me wrong.
Most people that have worked in big organisations develop friendships that last a lifetime. Friends pass on valuable information that can actually help in your work area or give you information on your matters of interests, and the same applies to an organisation like the CIA, KGB or FBI. They know each other and they talk to one another.
Let’s clarify this for all dumb dumbs. Baer was stationed for a short time in Yugoslavia just prior to the war, but he was then reassigned to the Middle East. The man does not speak Serbian, but Arabic and Farsi.
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/media-fabrications-the-srebrenica-massacre-is-a-western-myth/17836
It was the International Court that found the killings in Srebrenica to be genocide so what the Bosniaks define it as is irrelevant.
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Funny. Serbs use the same word (irrelevant) to define the court.
On fact, many nations consider it irrelevant. So to call it "international" is to give it a designation that is partially true. Nealy 50% of the population of the world is not covered under its jurisdiction.
1. Where does the funding for the international court come from?
2. Why do some nations that fund the court not recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
The court can lock away as many people as it wants. It is pretty clear that the needle of public opinion has not budged nor will it ever. No one in Serbia really cares (nor will they ever).
As a mechanism of reconciliation it has failed horribly.
Roberto ; Your Dodik is a fascist scumbag and liar, who still supports the Milosevic regime. How about B-92?!
От слова fascis происходит итальянское fascio (фашио) – «союз» или фашизм.
Идеология фашизма и символ (ликторский пучок) были приняты в Италии после Первой мировой войны. Б. Муссолини основал «Итальянский союз борьбы», который в 1921г. переименовали в «Национальную фашистскую партию» (Partito Nazionale Fascista) - единственная легальная партия в Италии до 1943г.
1. The victims were military men were women and children spared.
This is the sort of massacre that happens in wars. Men get killed because of what they are; they’re on the other side. That’s what it’s all about.
2. The reason the west considers Srebrenica to be genoside is to justidy future wars.
3. The numbers of casualties are inflated without supporting forensic evidence.
Sj I agree with you that sneaky and clever Croatians,Bosnians and Kosovars staged national mass grave suicide events just for the simply reason of blaming sweet innocent saintly serbs who would never hurt so much as a fly.
Hundreds of thousands of these "victims" participated in an international scheme to embarass and blame blameless serbs.
They fooled every gullable person on earth except for the ever so smart serbs.
No one can fool you creatures except for Milosevic.
The same global community that tells us the terrorism committed around the world by Muslims has nothing to do with Islam tells us that what the Serbs did in Srebrenica was genocide.
It will be no small irony if countries like France and England find themselves with the same bloodshed on their hands from their Muslim guests. They will just be trying to defend themselves, but who will witness that?
@questioner,
The Dutch UN peacekeepers looked on as the the Serbs stormed Srebenica. Serbs were pissed cause Oric had been attacking defenseless villagers with impunity up until then. If 3000 Serbs lives mean anything to you, then the Serbs should have their genocide labeling. But that wont happen since the ICJ was overwhelmingly anti Serb.
Yes it was a mass suicide...
(Luigi, 11 July 2016 13:33)
Yes,
It was a mass suicide by the coward soldiers!,like the 3,000 children,woman and elderly of March,April,and May 1992 with the knife of Oric .They too,cut their tongue,eyes and heads off!
Let us say for a moment that there were 4000 victims , does this make it less Genocide that 8000?
Genocide definition - the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
[[link]]
(Bilbao, 11 July 2016 14:02)
OK Balbao,lets first recognise the Genocide of March,Arpil,May of 1992 ,3,000 Serb children,women and elderly from chop up and slaughtered by Oric and his Bosnia Army,then work our way to 1995.Alot of GENOCIDE happened in Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo ,maybe 1,000 GENOCIDE to register in UN charter !
Get my drift.
"The ICJ's ruling was obviously political by acquitting Serbia of genocide but charging them of failing to prevent genocide of 7000? "
(Radovan, 11 July 2016 18:31)
What is political with that? The genocide was not committed by Serbia, but by Bosnian Serb troops and paramilitaries under Mladic. And Serbia didn't prevent the genocide, though it might had the power to prevent it. Where is the contradiction? I don't see it, sorry.
"@Bilbao, genocide is the mass extermination of an ethnic group. A few thousand dead amongst a nation of millions is hardly a drop in the bucket. Genocide is a term used by western politicians to paint the RS state as being built on dubious grounds."
(Radovan, 11 July 2016 14:53)
Maybe that's your definition, and according to this, 8000 persons from 15 to 80 years abducted and killed is not a genocide. But the UN has another definition, and the world is using that one, not yours.
Of course it was a tragedy when traditional and non-traditional Serbs killed one another. But it’s stupid to judge the 15 round boxing by one episode. So let’s tell the truth this one time that Srebrenica tragedy was just one of the episodes in the long lasting genocide of the Serbs initiated by the USA and it European lackeys. Almost all neighbors took part in this genocide and so did many NATO members. Serbs had to fight the 5-th column of the Otpor sellouts inside and the hostile neighbors provoked by their overseas master. It was almost a simultaneous attack on the USSR and it smaller Balkan version. Attack on the big Russian people and it small Balkan version. And should Serbs and Afghans and Iraqis and Syrians surrender we would live in a much worse world today. What I mean is to start telling the truth. If anybody is to open his mouth today let him tell us what his country was doing when Serbs were demonized and terrorized. I will start myself - we were guilty of the Great Serbian Tragedy where other peoples suffered too. Russia afforded to be a colony of the USA and stood on one knee. So we failed to help our brothers in Serbia. Otherwise things would develop in a better scenario. Better for all. Another guilt of Russia was to persuade Serbs not to fight otherwise NATO would stop to exist. They estimated 1300 dead bodies that they could bear at that time – 1000 Yankees and 300 Europeans. Otherwise things would develop in a better scenario. Better for all.
The ICJ's ruling was obviously political by acquitting Serbia of genocide but charging them of failing to prevent genocide of 7000? Looking at the numbers, its a slap in the face of those that endured the Armenian, Jewish, native American, Rwandan genocide, Jasenovac, even way back to the Carthagenian genocide etc.. A massacre occurred, but calling it a genocide is a stretch.
Radovan: It was the International Court that found the killings in Srebrenica to be genocide so what the Bosniaks define it as is irrelevant. Dodik has an election coming up so his usual rhetoric around this time of year will be even more pronounced than usual. He has one interest in life, holding and wielding power for the benefit of himself and his cronies and anything that makes that more likely is attractive to Dodik.
Ciao Giovanni! I feel like an ancient Albanian Catholic church in Kosovo under a new Serbian church today and I'm waiting for you to come and set me free!
To the commentator with the whole, commeration for the Serbs killed by Oric...there were three, and he is on trial for this currently. Secondly, it is recognized by the world, except Serbia and the RS....there are over 8,000 dead....killed because they were Muslim. That's genocide. Perhaps you should look up the definition.
The International Court of Justice has already ruled that it was genocide. See verdict: http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=667&code=bhy&p1=3&p2=3&case=91&k=f4&p3=5
Fun fact about ICJ: The ICJ has no Jurisdiction unless both parties submit to the ruling of the court. In other words, one party presents a case in front of ICJ and the other party has to agree that said case can be treated by the ICJ. Serbia can deny genocide as much as they want. Fact is, its legally binding since they themself accepted the case infront of ICJ. Same with independence of Kosovo. It was Serbia who wanted the case in front of ICJ.
Serbia is so deep in denial about the events of the 90ies that, in both cases, they accepted ICJ because they thought they could win. Now there are two legally binding rulings against them because they were to blind to realize they would lose.
Even Robert Baer, former senior CIA operative, stated "many of the victims were buried as Muslims and yet they were Serbs or other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and currently working in the IMF said that Srebrenica was a product of an agreement between the U.S. government and politicians in Bosnia. Srebrenica the city was sacrificed because after the alleged crimes of Serbs, the America had a reason to attack".
(sj, 11 July 2016 13:41)
Ah yes, Robert Bear. I`ve seen many postings about him and Yugoslavia. To bad, that man wrote many books about his career. He was never stationed in Yugoslavia as he spent his time in the middle east. His book "See no evil" is great. I highly recommend it.
His "famous" comments about Srebrenica are from an "interview" at Web-tribune.com. A fake news site of conspiracist: http://web-tribune.com/iza-kulisa/ispovest-cia-agenta-dati-su-nam-milioni-da-rasparcamo-sfrj-podmitili-opozicione-stranke-i-politicare-koji-su-raspaljivali-mrznju-medu-narodima-a-krajnji-cilj-je-bio-da-vas-napravimo-robovima#
Not only are the comments about Robert Bear fake, I even caught you lying Sj. You just repeated what the fake article says. Your former CIA "friend" is a fake article. This is hillarious :-D To stupid to use google and check the story.
This is the kind of "leadership" that has kept the Balkans and especially BiH from progressing. Maybe stirring up tribalism is a good smokescreen while you and your cronies steal everything in RS?
@Bilbao, genocide is the mass extermination of an ethnic group. A few thousand dead amongst a nation of millions is hardly a drop in the bucket. Genocide is a term used by western politicians to paint the RS state as being built on dubious grounds. Everyone paid a high price for the war, not just Bosnians.
You cannot recognize something that did not occur. Even Robert Baer, former senior CIA operative, stated "many of the victims were buried as Muslims and yet they were Serbs or other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and currently working in the IMF said that Srebrenica was a product of an agreement between the U.S. government and politicians in Bosnia. Srebrenica the city was sacrificed because after the alleged crimes of Serbs, the America had a reason to attack".
Maybe the bosniaks should learn the definition of the word genocide. Also, why would B92 end the article with the number of dead to be around 8,000 when it is believed to be inflated? Shouldn't the Serbs stage their own commemoration for those that were slaughtered by Oric around Srebenica?
You cannot recognize something that did not occur. Even Robert Baer, former senior CIA operative, stated "many of the victims were buried as Muslims and yet they were Serbs or other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and currently working in the IMF said that Srebrenica was a product of an agreement between the U.S. government and politicians in Bosnia. Srebrenica the city was sacrificed because after the alleged crimes of Serbs, the America had a reason to attack".
Even Robert Baer, former senior CIA operative, stated "many of the victims were buried as Muslims and yet they were Serbs or other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and currently working in the IMF said that Srebrenica was a product of an agreement between the U.S. government and politicians in Bosnia. Srebrenica the city was sacrificed because after the alleged crimes of Serbs, the America had a reason to attack".
(sj, 11 July 2016 13:41)
Ah yes, Robert Bear. I`ve seen many postings about him and Yugoslavia. To bad, that man wrote many books about his career. He was never stationed in Yugoslavia as he spent his time in the middle east. His book "See no evil" is great. I highly recommend it.
His "famous" comments about Srebrenica are from an "interview" at Web-tribune.com. A fake news site of conspiracist: http://web-tribune.com/iza-kulisa/ispovest-cia-agenta-dati-su-nam-milioni-da-rasparcamo-sfrj-podmitili-opozicione-stranke-i-politicare-koji-su-raspaljivali-mrznju-medu-narodima-a-krajnji-cilj-je-bio-da-vas-napravimo-robovima#
Not only are the comments about Robert Bear fake, I even caught you lying Sj. You just repeated what the fake article says. Your former CIA "friend" is a fake article. This is hillarious :-D To stupid to use google and check the story.
Maybe the bosniaks should learn the definition of the word genocide. Also, why would B92 end the article with the number of dead to be around 8,000 when it is believed to be inflated? Shouldn't the Serbs stage their own commemoration for those that were slaughtered by Oric around Srebenica?
This is the kind of "leadership" that has kept the Balkans and especially BiH from progressing. Maybe stirring up tribalism is a good smokescreen while you and your cronies steal everything in RS?
1. The victims were military men were women and children spared.
This is the sort of massacre that happens in wars. Men get killed because of what they are; they’re on the other side. That’s what it’s all about.
2. The reason the west considers Srebrenica to be genoside is to justidy future wars.
3. The numbers of casualties are inflated without supporting forensic evidence.
@Bilbao, genocide is the mass extermination of an ethnic group. A few thousand dead amongst a nation of millions is hardly a drop in the bucket. Genocide is a term used by western politicians to paint the RS state as being built on dubious grounds. Everyone paid a high price for the war, not just Bosnians.
The International Court of Justice has already ruled that it was genocide. See verdict: http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=667&code=bhy&p1=3&p2=3&case=91&k=f4&p3=5
Fun fact about ICJ: The ICJ has no Jurisdiction unless both parties submit to the ruling of the court. In other words, one party presents a case in front of ICJ and the other party has to agree that said case can be treated by the ICJ. Serbia can deny genocide as much as they want. Fact is, its legally binding since they themself accepted the case infront of ICJ. Same with independence of Kosovo. It was Serbia who wanted the case in front of ICJ.
Serbia is so deep in denial about the events of the 90ies that, in both cases, they accepted ICJ because they thought they could win. Now there are two legally binding rulings against them because they were to blind to realize they would lose.
The ICJ's ruling was obviously political by acquitting Serbia of genocide but charging them of failing to prevent genocide of 7000? Looking at the numbers, its a slap in the face of those that endured the Armenian, Jewish, native American, Rwandan genocide, Jasenovac, even way back to the Carthagenian genocide etc.. A massacre occurred, but calling it a genocide is a stretch.
Let us say for a moment that there were 4000 victims , does this make it less Genocide that 8000?
Genocide definition - the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
[[link]]
(Bilbao, 11 July 2016 14:02)
OK Balbao,lets first recognise the Genocide of March,Arpil,May of 1992 ,3,000 Serb children,women and elderly from chop up and slaughtered by Oric and his Bosnia Army,then work our way to 1995.Alot of GENOCIDE happened in Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo ,maybe 1,000 GENOCIDE to register in UN charter !
Get my drift.
To the commentator with the whole, commeration for the Serbs killed by Oric...there were three, and he is on trial for this currently. Secondly, it is recognized by the world, except Serbia and the RS....there are over 8,000 dead....killed because they were Muslim. That's genocide. Perhaps you should look up the definition.
Yes it was a mass suicide...
(Luigi, 11 July 2016 13:33)
Yes,
It was a mass suicide by the coward soldiers!,like the 3,000 children,woman and elderly of March,April,and May 1992 with the knife of Oric .They too,cut their tongue,eyes and heads off!
@questioner,
The Dutch UN peacekeepers looked on as the the Serbs stormed Srebenica. Serbs were pissed cause Oric had been attacking defenseless villagers with impunity up until then. If 3000 Serbs lives mean anything to you, then the Serbs should have their genocide labeling. But that wont happen since the ICJ was overwhelmingly anti Serb.
Radovan: It was the International Court that found the killings in Srebrenica to be genocide so what the Bosniaks define it as is irrelevant. Dodik has an election coming up so his usual rhetoric around this time of year will be even more pronounced than usual. He has one interest in life, holding and wielding power for the benefit of himself and his cronies and anything that makes that more likely is attractive to Dodik.
Ciao Giovanni! I feel like an ancient Albanian Catholic church in Kosovo under a new Serbian church today and I'm waiting for you to come and set me free!
"@Bilbao, genocide is the mass extermination of an ethnic group. A few thousand dead amongst a nation of millions is hardly a drop in the bucket. Genocide is a term used by western politicians to paint the RS state as being built on dubious grounds."
(Radovan, 11 July 2016 14:53)
Maybe that's your definition, and according to this, 8000 persons from 15 to 80 years abducted and killed is not a genocide. But the UN has another definition, and the world is using that one, not yours.
"The ICJ's ruling was obviously political by acquitting Serbia of genocide but charging them of failing to prevent genocide of 7000? "
(Radovan, 11 July 2016 18:31)
What is political with that? The genocide was not committed by Serbia, but by Bosnian Serb troops and paramilitaries under Mladic. And Serbia didn't prevent the genocide, though it might had the power to prevent it. Where is the contradiction? I don't see it, sorry.
Sj I agree with you that sneaky and clever Croatians,Bosnians and Kosovars staged national mass grave suicide events just for the simply reason of blaming sweet innocent saintly serbs who would never hurt so much as a fly.
Hundreds of thousands of these "victims" participated in an international scheme to embarass and blame blameless serbs.
They fooled every gullable person on earth except for the ever so smart serbs.
No one can fool you creatures except for Milosevic.
On fact, many nations consider it irrelevant.
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
It does not matter. The UNSC, speaking on international community's behalf, says that ICTY is relevant. That's what matters.
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To call it "international" is to give it a designation that is partially true. Nealy 50% of the population of the world is not covered under its jurisdiction.
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
Everybody who committed grave violations of international humanitarian law in the territory of former Yugoslavia from 1991 onward in covered by ICTY's jurisdiction. Where did you find that only 50% of the world population is covered, mate?!
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1. Where does the funding for the international court come from?
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
The UN budget pays for ICTY's operations.
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2. Why do some nations that fund the court not recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
It's immaterial if a nation recognizes or not ICTY's jurisdiction. It is mandatory for all nations to cooperate with the ICTY because the UNSC has said so.
Of course it was a tragedy when traditional and non-traditional Serbs killed one another. But it’s stupid to judge the 15 round boxing by one episode. So let’s tell the truth this one time that Srebrenica tragedy was just one of the episodes in the long lasting genocide of the Serbs initiated by the USA and it European lackeys. Almost all neighbors took part in this genocide and so did many NATO members. Serbs had to fight the 5-th column of the Otpor sellouts inside and the hostile neighbors provoked by their overseas master. It was almost a simultaneous attack on the USSR and it smaller Balkan version. Attack on the big Russian people and it small Balkan version. And should Serbs and Afghans and Iraqis and Syrians surrender we would live in a much worse world today. What I mean is to start telling the truth. If anybody is to open his mouth today let him tell us what his country was doing when Serbs were demonized and terrorized. I will start myself - we were guilty of the Great Serbian Tragedy where other peoples suffered too. Russia afforded to be a colony of the USA and stood on one knee. So we failed to help our brothers in Serbia. Otherwise things would develop in a better scenario. Better for all. Another guilt of Russia was to persuade Serbs not to fight otherwise NATO would stop to exist. They estimated 1300 dead bodies that they could bear at that time – 1000 Yankees and 300 Europeans. Otherwise things would develop in a better scenario. Better for all.
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
[link]
(sj, 12 July 2016 09:55)
Oh another friend of yours. First your friend at IMF, now your friend in Perth. Basically all you can offer is an fake interview without source of the author, hearsay from two "friends" and one link from globalresearch.ca (another fake news site).
Thumbs up Sj! Your story is just getting weaker and weaker the more you comment.
Your story so far is: I have no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about having no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about having no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about... I think you get it now.
The only good thing is you got your self a pet. sasa.p look how he`s craving for attention. Good boy.
The same global community that tells us the terrorism committed around the world by Muslims has nothing to do with Islam tells us that what the Serbs did in Srebrenica was genocide.
It will be no small irony if countries like France and England find themselves with the same bloodshed on their hands from their Muslim guests. They will just be trying to defend themselves, but who will witness that?
It was the International Court that found the killings in Srebrenica to be genocide so what the Bosniaks define it as is irrelevant.
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Funny. Serbs use the same word (irrelevant) to define the court.
On fact, many nations consider it irrelevant. So to call it "international" is to give it a designation that is partially true. Nealy 50% of the population of the world is not covered under its jurisdiction.
1. Where does the funding for the international court come from?
2. Why do some nations that fund the court not recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
The court can lock away as many people as it wants. It is pretty clear that the needle of public opinion has not budged nor will it ever. No one in Serbia really cares (nor will they ever).
As a mechanism of reconciliation it has failed horribly.
I never said that Robert Baer was my friend nor did I ever say that I knew him. I quoted what was said in the article. You are not that bright to catch me out on anything. I thought Muslims don’t drink. You have now proven me wrong.
Most people that have worked in big organisations develop friendships that last a lifetime. Friends pass on valuable information that can actually help in your work area or give you information on your matters of interests, and the same applies to an organisation like the CIA, KGB or FBI. They know each other and they talk to one another.
Let’s clarify this for all dumb dumbs. Baer was stationed for a short time in Yugoslavia just prior to the war, but he was then reassigned to the Middle East. The man does not speak Serbian, but Arabic and Farsi.
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/media-fabrications-the-srebrenica-massacre-is-a-western-myth/17836
Instead of serbs having to deny something that is not a fact i wish those that do consider Srebrenica to be a genocide to motivate why and how? Obviously they can't? They just want serbs to admit to something because that's how it used to be and because they say so. I wonder if Bosnia and Albania recognized the turkish killing of armenians as genocide? Certainly not! Not to mention Jasenovac? We are dealing with hypocrites of the worst kind.
Serbia, don't admit something you are not guilty of!
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
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(sj, 12 July 2016 09:55)
Sorry,SJ,
Gjon the Shqip is a Melbourne,St Kilda coffee lounge little boy drinker,not a Irish pub drinker, in Devonshire St, You can get good coffee in Crown Street,Surry Hills.
By ex- Surry Hills boy.
Is it 350K killed BY the US or as a result of sectarian violence? If the US army has indeed murdered 350K Iraqi civilians, then yes, they are guilty of genocide. Not aware that this is the case however, nor am I aware that anyone has ever insinuated this to be case
Roberto ; Your Dodik is a fascist scumbag and liar, who still supports the Milosevic regime. How about B-92?!
От слова fascis происходит итальянское fascio (фашио) – «союз» или фашизм.
Идеология фашизма и символ (ликторский пучок) были приняты в Италии после Первой мировой войны. Б. Муссолини основал «Итальянский союз борьбы», который в 1921г. переименовали в «Национальную фашистскую партию» (Partito Nazionale Fascista) - единственная легальная партия в Италии до 1943г.
My, my I have gotten under your skin LOL. What are you on? I have never said I had a friend at the IMF. I have never said it was a friend from Perth who was at the Gaelic Club. So what are you on about? Your post makes no sense what so ever and it appears as ramblings and ranting about matters that I have not raised.
Your not drinking then hitting the keyboards are you because that is exactly what it appears to be? But do tell what have I made up so far?
Sorry,SJ,
Gjon the Shqip is a Melbourne,St Kilda coffee lounge little boy drinker,not a Irish pub drinker, in Devonshire St, You can get good coffee in Crown Street,Surry Hills.
By ex- Surry Hills boy.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 12 July 2016 12:10)
I see you know Sydney. Yes Crown Street has some great coffee. Poor Gjon, he thinks he has caught me out on something but as I said before it would take someone much smarter than him to do it LOL.
He does make me laugh. Hey Gjon make sure those dishes are washed properly.
What you believe is immaterial. I am not aware that the US army, has ever been accused of killing 350K people in Iraq, nor has it ever been insinuated that army personnel ever sanctioned such a murder, you know, binding peoples hands hands, blindfolding them and then ordering a mass execution in cold blood. This is the difference between Srberenica and what has happened in Iraq.
Try hard as you may sj, you're still really bad at insults. This washing dishes thing is all you ever come up with. Really poor imagination you have.
Now, do forward in here a report that has ever accused the US army of sanctioned mass murder, in this case of 350K in Iraq. I guarantee you that you wont be able to do it.
As for the hospital in Afghanistan, tragic though it is, it does not fall under the definition of genocide, but for what it its worth no one can stop a persecutor of raisng charges against those responsible for it. Maybe you should take up the case
Try hard as you may sj, you're still really bad at insults. This washing dishes thing is all you ever come up with. Really poor imagination you have.
Now, do forward in here a report that has ever accused the US army of sanctioned mass murder, in this case of 350K in Iraq. I guarantee you that you wont be able to do it.
As for the hospital in Afghanistan, tragic though it is, it does not fall under the definition of genocide, but for what it its worth no one can stop a persecutor of raisng charges against those responsible for it. Maybe you should take up the case
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 12:58)
Yes I understand now you studied Albanian law in Pristina so this is strange to you. I did not imply that the hospital was genocide but where are the indictments for murder??????
sure there wasn't. there was no ethnic expulsion in Krajina either, Serbs have simply been on holiday since 1995
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 10:23)
Since 8000 is genocide then what is your definition of the 350,000 killed by the US and allies in Iraq and remember invasion of that country was never approved by the UN?
Is it 350K killed BY the US or as a result of sectarian violence? If the US army has indeed murdered 350K Iraqi civilians, then yes, they are guilty of genocide. Not aware that this is the case however, nor am I aware that anyone has ever insinuated this to be case
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 11:20)
I believe that number is correct that the US and their loved ones are responsible for. They estimate that in the first months of attack and occupation it was over 150 000 so where are the arrest warrants? What for 8000 the idiots declare it genocide but for 350,000 it, what democratically sanctioned killings?
As you have studies law they normally don’t wait for some to insinuate to issue arrest warrants.
Did they ever issue arrest warrants for the 20 employee killed by democratic bombing of that hospital in Afghanistan last October? Perhaps you have heard I certainly saw nothing of that nature.
What you believe is immaterial. I am not aware that the US army, has ever been accused of killing 350K people in Iraq, nor has it ever been insinuated that army personnel ever sanctioned such a murder, you know, binding peoples hands hands, blindfolding them and then ordering a mass execution in cold blood. This is the difference between Srberenica and what has happened in Iraq.
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 12:25)
What you should have with your law degree, if you have one, stenciled on a dish towel to help you was dishes. Perhaps that's why you do not practice law.
In not what I believe but what is claimed by many western human rights groups. For your edification murder is murder whether you have hands tied or not except if this is an Albanian thing. You still have not answered the hospital in Afghanistan.
You cannot recognize something that did not occur. Even Robert Baer, former senior CIA operative, stated "many of the victims were buried as Muslims and yet they were Serbs or other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and currently working in the IMF said that Srebrenica was a product of an agreement between the U.S. government and politicians in Bosnia. Srebrenica the city was sacrificed because after the alleged crimes of Serbs, the America had a reason to attack".
Maybe the bosniaks should learn the definition of the word genocide. Also, why would B92 end the article with the number of dead to be around 8,000 when it is believed to be inflated? Shouldn't the Serbs stage their own commemoration for those that were slaughtered by Oric around Srebenica?
1. The victims were military men were women and children spared.
This is the sort of massacre that happens in wars. Men get killed because of what they are; they’re on the other side. That’s what it’s all about.
2. The reason the west considers Srebrenica to be genoside is to justidy future wars.
3. The numbers of casualties are inflated without supporting forensic evidence.
Even Robert Baer, former senior CIA operative, stated "many of the victims were buried as Muslims and yet they were Serbs or other nationalities. A few years ago a friend of mine, a former CIA agent and currently working in the IMF said that Srebrenica was a product of an agreement between the U.S. government and politicians in Bosnia. Srebrenica the city was sacrificed because after the alleged crimes of Serbs, the America had a reason to attack".
(sj, 11 July 2016 13:41)
Ah yes, Robert Bear. I`ve seen many postings about him and Yugoslavia. To bad, that man wrote many books about his career. He was never stationed in Yugoslavia as he spent his time in the middle east. His book "See no evil" is great. I highly recommend it.
His "famous" comments about Srebrenica are from an "interview" at Web-tribune.com. A fake news site of conspiracist: http://web-tribune.com/iza-kulisa/ispovest-cia-agenta-dati-su-nam-milioni-da-rasparcamo-sfrj-podmitili-opozicione-stranke-i-politicare-koji-su-raspaljivali-mrznju-medu-narodima-a-krajnji-cilj-je-bio-da-vas-napravimo-robovima#
Not only are the comments about Robert Bear fake, I even caught you lying Sj. You just repeated what the fake article says. Your former CIA "friend" is a fake article. This is hillarious :-D To stupid to use google and check the story.
Of course it was a tragedy when traditional and non-traditional Serbs killed one another. But it’s stupid to judge the 15 round boxing by one episode. So let’s tell the truth this one time that Srebrenica tragedy was just one of the episodes in the long lasting genocide of the Serbs initiated by the USA and it European lackeys. Almost all neighbors took part in this genocide and so did many NATO members. Serbs had to fight the 5-th column of the Otpor sellouts inside and the hostile neighbors provoked by their overseas master. It was almost a simultaneous attack on the USSR and it smaller Balkan version. Attack on the big Russian people and it small Balkan version. And should Serbs and Afghans and Iraqis and Syrians surrender we would live in a much worse world today. What I mean is to start telling the truth. If anybody is to open his mouth today let him tell us what his country was doing when Serbs were demonized and terrorized. I will start myself - we were guilty of the Great Serbian Tragedy where other peoples suffered too. Russia afforded to be a colony of the USA and stood on one knee. So we failed to help our brothers in Serbia. Otherwise things would develop in a better scenario. Better for all. Another guilt of Russia was to persuade Serbs not to fight otherwise NATO would stop to exist. They estimated 1300 dead bodies that they could bear at that time – 1000 Yankees and 300 Europeans. Otherwise things would develop in a better scenario. Better for all.
The International Court of Justice has already ruled that it was genocide. See verdict: http://www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?sum=667&code=bhy&p1=3&p2=3&case=91&k=f4&p3=5
Fun fact about ICJ: The ICJ has no Jurisdiction unless both parties submit to the ruling of the court. In other words, one party presents a case in front of ICJ and the other party has to agree that said case can be treated by the ICJ. Serbia can deny genocide as much as they want. Fact is, its legally binding since they themself accepted the case infront of ICJ. Same with independence of Kosovo. It was Serbia who wanted the case in front of ICJ.
Serbia is so deep in denial about the events of the 90ies that, in both cases, they accepted ICJ because they thought they could win. Now there are two legally binding rulings against them because they were to blind to realize they would lose.
To the commentator with the whole, commeration for the Serbs killed by Oric...there were three, and he is on trial for this currently. Secondly, it is recognized by the world, except Serbia and the RS....there are over 8,000 dead....killed because they were Muslim. That's genocide. Perhaps you should look up the definition.
Sj I agree with you that sneaky and clever Croatians,Bosnians and Kosovars staged national mass grave suicide events just for the simply reason of blaming sweet innocent saintly serbs who would never hurt so much as a fly.
Hundreds of thousands of these "victims" participated in an international scheme to embarass and blame blameless serbs.
They fooled every gullable person on earth except for the ever so smart serbs.
No one can fool you creatures except for Milosevic.
@Bilbao, genocide is the mass extermination of an ethnic group. A few thousand dead amongst a nation of millions is hardly a drop in the bucket. Genocide is a term used by western politicians to paint the RS state as being built on dubious grounds. Everyone paid a high price for the war, not just Bosnians.
Let us say for a moment that there were 4000 victims , does this make it less Genocide that 8000?
Genocide definition - the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
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(Bilbao, 11 July 2016 14:02)
OK Balbao,lets first recognise the Genocide of March,Arpil,May of 1992 ,3,000 Serb children,women and elderly from chop up and slaughtered by Oric and his Bosnia Army,then work our way to 1995.Alot of GENOCIDE happened in Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo ,maybe 1,000 GENOCIDE to register in UN charter !
Get my drift.
This is the kind of "leadership" that has kept the Balkans and especially BiH from progressing. Maybe stirring up tribalism is a good smokescreen while you and your cronies steal everything in RS?
Radovan: It was the International Court that found the killings in Srebrenica to be genocide so what the Bosniaks define it as is irrelevant. Dodik has an election coming up so his usual rhetoric around this time of year will be even more pronounced than usual. He has one interest in life, holding and wielding power for the benefit of himself and his cronies and anything that makes that more likely is attractive to Dodik.
The same global community that tells us the terrorism committed around the world by Muslims has nothing to do with Islam tells us that what the Serbs did in Srebrenica was genocide.
It will be no small irony if countries like France and England find themselves with the same bloodshed on their hands from their Muslim guests. They will just be trying to defend themselves, but who will witness that?
"The ICJ's ruling was obviously political by acquitting Serbia of genocide but charging them of failing to prevent genocide of 7000? "
(Radovan, 11 July 2016 18:31)
What is political with that? The genocide was not committed by Serbia, but by Bosnian Serb troops and paramilitaries under Mladic. And Serbia didn't prevent the genocide, though it might had the power to prevent it. Where is the contradiction? I don't see it, sorry.
Yes it was a mass suicide...
(Luigi, 11 July 2016 13:33)
Yes,
It was a mass suicide by the coward soldiers!,like the 3,000 children,woman and elderly of March,April,and May 1992 with the knife of Oric .They too,cut their tongue,eyes and heads off!
@questioner,
The Dutch UN peacekeepers looked on as the the Serbs stormed Srebenica. Serbs were pissed cause Oric had been attacking defenseless villagers with impunity up until then. If 3000 Serbs lives mean anything to you, then the Serbs should have their genocide labeling. But that wont happen since the ICJ was overwhelmingly anti Serb.
Roberto ; Your Dodik is a fascist scumbag and liar, who still supports the Milosevic regime. How about B-92?!
От слова fascis происходит итальянское fascio (фашио) – «союз» или фашизм.
Идеология фашизма и символ (ликторский пучок) были приняты в Италии после Первой мировой войны. Б. Муссолини основал «Итальянский союз борьбы», который в 1921г. переименовали в «Национальную фашистскую партию» (Partito Nazionale Fascista) - единственная легальная партия в Италии до 1943г.
It was the International Court that found the killings in Srebrenica to be genocide so what the Bosniaks define it as is irrelevant.
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Funny. Serbs use the same word (irrelevant) to define the court.
On fact, many nations consider it irrelevant. So to call it "international" is to give it a designation that is partially true. Nealy 50% of the population of the world is not covered under its jurisdiction.
1. Where does the funding for the international court come from?
2. Why do some nations that fund the court not recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
The court can lock away as many people as it wants. It is pretty clear that the needle of public opinion has not budged nor will it ever. No one in Serbia really cares (nor will they ever).
As a mechanism of reconciliation it has failed horribly.
I never said that Robert Baer was my friend nor did I ever say that I knew him. I quoted what was said in the article. You are not that bright to catch me out on anything. I thought Muslims don’t drink. You have now proven me wrong.
Most people that have worked in big organisations develop friendships that last a lifetime. Friends pass on valuable information that can actually help in your work area or give you information on your matters of interests, and the same applies to an organisation like the CIA, KGB or FBI. They know each other and they talk to one another.
Let’s clarify this for all dumb dumbs. Baer was stationed for a short time in Yugoslavia just prior to the war, but he was then reassigned to the Middle East. The man does not speak Serbian, but Arabic and Farsi.
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/media-fabrications-the-srebrenica-massacre-is-a-western-myth/17836
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
[link]
(sj, 12 July 2016 09:55)
Sorry,SJ,
Gjon the Shqip is a Melbourne,St Kilda coffee lounge little boy drinker,not a Irish pub drinker, in Devonshire St, You can get good coffee in Crown Street,Surry Hills.
By ex- Surry Hills boy.
My, my I have gotten under your skin LOL. What are you on? I have never said I had a friend at the IMF. I have never said it was a friend from Perth who was at the Gaelic Club. So what are you on about? Your post makes no sense what so ever and it appears as ramblings and ranting about matters that I have not raised.
Your not drinking then hitting the keyboards are you because that is exactly what it appears to be? But do tell what have I made up so far?
Sorry,SJ,
Gjon the Shqip is a Melbourne,St Kilda coffee lounge little boy drinker,not a Irish pub drinker, in Devonshire St, You can get good coffee in Crown Street,Surry Hills.
By ex- Surry Hills boy.
(sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 12 July 2016 12:10)
I see you know Sydney. Yes Crown Street has some great coffee. Poor Gjon, he thinks he has caught me out on something but as I said before it would take someone much smarter than him to do it LOL.
He does make me laugh. Hey Gjon make sure those dishes are washed properly.
The ICJ's ruling was obviously political by acquitting Serbia of genocide but charging them of failing to prevent genocide of 7000? Looking at the numbers, its a slap in the face of those that endured the Armenian, Jewish, native American, Rwandan genocide, Jasenovac, even way back to the Carthagenian genocide etc.. A massacre occurred, but calling it a genocide is a stretch.
"@Bilbao, genocide is the mass extermination of an ethnic group. A few thousand dead amongst a nation of millions is hardly a drop in the bucket. Genocide is a term used by western politicians to paint the RS state as being built on dubious grounds."
(Radovan, 11 July 2016 14:53)
Maybe that's your definition, and according to this, 8000 persons from 15 to 80 years abducted and killed is not a genocide. But the UN has another definition, and the world is using that one, not yours.
Instead of serbs having to deny something that is not a fact i wish those that do consider Srebrenica to be a genocide to motivate why and how? Obviously they can't? They just want serbs to admit to something because that's how it used to be and because they say so. I wonder if Bosnia and Albania recognized the turkish killing of armenians as genocide? Certainly not! Not to mention Jasenovac? We are dealing with hypocrites of the worst kind.
Serbia, don't admit something you are not guilty of!
Ciao Giovanni! I feel like an ancient Albanian Catholic church in Kosovo under a new Serbian church today and I'm waiting for you to come and set me free!
He was in Perth Australia in 2009 at a book festival to promote one of his books then to Melbourne and Sydney. During his stay in Sydney he was a surprise guest at the Gaelic Club (for those that live in Sydney its opposite Central Station, Surrey Hills side). A good friend was there that night. He is Irish and loves to attend the Pub Politics night. Baer talked about many things but my friend asked him direct about what was said in that article and his answer was YES it’s TRUE.
[link]
(sj, 12 July 2016 09:55)
Oh another friend of yours. First your friend at IMF, now your friend in Perth. Basically all you can offer is an fake interview without source of the author, hearsay from two "friends" and one link from globalresearch.ca (another fake news site).
Thumbs up Sj! Your story is just getting weaker and weaker the more you comment.
Your story so far is: I have no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about having no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about having no Idea what I`m talking about so I just keep making stuff up to somehow cover about... I think you get it now.
The only good thing is you got your self a pet. sasa.p look how he`s craving for attention. Good boy.
On fact, many nations consider it irrelevant.
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
It does not matter. The UNSC, speaking on international community's behalf, says that ICTY is relevant. That's what matters.
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To call it "international" is to give it a designation that is partially true. Nealy 50% of the population of the world is not covered under its jurisdiction.
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
Everybody who committed grave violations of international humanitarian law in the territory of former Yugoslavia from 1991 onward in covered by ICTY's jurisdiction. Where did you find that only 50% of the world population is covered, mate?!
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1. Where does the funding for the international court come from?
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
The UN budget pays for ICTY's operations.
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2. Why do some nations that fund the court not recognize the jurisdiction of the court?
(factman, 12 July 2016 01:40)
It's immaterial if a nation recognizes or not ICTY's jurisdiction. It is mandatory for all nations to cooperate with the ICTY because the UNSC has said so.
Is it 350K killed BY the US or as a result of sectarian violence? If the US army has indeed murdered 350K Iraqi civilians, then yes, they are guilty of genocide. Not aware that this is the case however, nor am I aware that anyone has ever insinuated this to be case
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 11:20)
I believe that number is correct that the US and their loved ones are responsible for. They estimate that in the first months of attack and occupation it was over 150 000 so where are the arrest warrants? What for 8000 the idiots declare it genocide but for 350,000 it, what democratically sanctioned killings?
As you have studies law they normally don’t wait for some to insinuate to issue arrest warrants.
Did they ever issue arrest warrants for the 20 employee killed by democratic bombing of that hospital in Afghanistan last October? Perhaps you have heard I certainly saw nothing of that nature.
What you believe is immaterial. I am not aware that the US army, has ever been accused of killing 350K people in Iraq, nor has it ever been insinuated that army personnel ever sanctioned such a murder, you know, binding peoples hands hands, blindfolding them and then ordering a mass execution in cold blood. This is the difference between Srberenica and what has happened in Iraq.
sure there wasn't. there was no ethnic expulsion in Krajina either, Serbs have simply been on holiday since 1995
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 10:23)
Since 8000 is genocide then what is your definition of the 350,000 killed by the US and allies in Iraq and remember invasion of that country was never approved by the UN?
Is it 350K killed BY the US or as a result of sectarian violence? If the US army has indeed murdered 350K Iraqi civilians, then yes, they are guilty of genocide. Not aware that this is the case however, nor am I aware that anyone has ever insinuated this to be case
What you believe is immaterial. I am not aware that the US army, has ever been accused of killing 350K people in Iraq, nor has it ever been insinuated that army personnel ever sanctioned such a murder, you know, binding peoples hands hands, blindfolding them and then ordering a mass execution in cold blood. This is the difference between Srberenica and what has happened in Iraq.
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 12:25)
What you should have with your law degree, if you have one, stenciled on a dish towel to help you was dishes. Perhaps that's why you do not practice law.
In not what I believe but what is claimed by many western human rights groups. For your edification murder is murder whether you have hands tied or not except if this is an Albanian thing. You still have not answered the hospital in Afghanistan.
Try hard as you may sj, you're still really bad at insults. This washing dishes thing is all you ever come up with. Really poor imagination you have.
Now, do forward in here a report that has ever accused the US army of sanctioned mass murder, in this case of 350K in Iraq. I guarantee you that you wont be able to do it.
As for the hospital in Afghanistan, tragic though it is, it does not fall under the definition of genocide, but for what it its worth no one can stop a persecutor of raisng charges against those responsible for it. Maybe you should take up the case
Try hard as you may sj, you're still really bad at insults. This washing dishes thing is all you ever come up with. Really poor imagination you have.
Now, do forward in here a report that has ever accused the US army of sanctioned mass murder, in this case of 350K in Iraq. I guarantee you that you wont be able to do it.
As for the hospital in Afghanistan, tragic though it is, it does not fall under the definition of genocide, but for what it its worth no one can stop a persecutor of raisng charges against those responsible for it. Maybe you should take up the case
(Nikolle, 13 July 2016 12:58)
Yes I understand now you studied Albanian law in Pristina so this is strange to you. I did not imply that the hospital was genocide but where are the indictments for murder??????
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