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Friday, 17.06.2016.

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Serbian PM and Croatian president to meet on Monday - report

Aleksandar Vucic and Kolinda Grabar-Kitarovic will together on Monday tour the birthplace of Milutin Milankovic and visit the town of Vukovar in Croatia.

Izvor: Vecernje novosti

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sj

pre 9 godina

Today Croatia is heavily in debt while EU aid is reducing at a drastic pace to the point that life is very hard there. I was in Croatia last year and their only income is tourism and some meagre manufacturing. This manufacturing is being subsidised by government and there is extreme pressure on Zagreb’s budget to privatise everything thus Tom Oreskovic’s main task.
On the surface road infrastructure is very good but it’s mostly in private hands and tolls are expensive and prohibitive for locals. Average monthly wage is not 700 Euros but 300.
Rail is falling apart and roads not on the tourist areas are crumbling. Swimming anywhere in the Adriatic is risky as sewerage plants have not been updated since the mid-1980s and talk of registering the coastal part on the UNRSCO register is impossible since it would take billions of Euros to bring infrastructure to standard.
Little Kolendar thinks that these meetings are going to somehow ally these problems but these talks are about borders, compensation for Serb-owned property who fled Croatia, payment to Serbia money that Belgrade has paid in pensions, but they actually belong to Zagreb.
Let me just add this amounts to billions of Euros. There is no walking away from this no matter who is in government. We will drain Croatia dry LOL.

sj

pre 9 godina

Serbs as well are Persians by the way, you have the same language!
(Bilbao, 18 June 2016 13:34)

Its all part of the indo european family of languages, but modern Farsi has no resemblance to Serbian.

Bob1

pre 9 godina

She doesn't think stepinac is a ustasha she doesn't think hasanbegovic is a ustasha she doesn't think Thompson is a ustasha.tell her to take a hike and get her products out of Serbia.

adrian_bucharest

pre 9 godina

Croatia is poor because it have exactly the same individual consumption like Romania 2015 ( 2016 under Romania ) and Romania is a nobody a nothing , we are starving here ,

How had became Croatia , to have individual consumption under Romania in 2016 it means you are a NOBODY . At least Serbia had 1990s wars , embargo , sanctions , amputed teritory , amputed even seea of Montengro . About Albania all people know that till 1990s they not had even a drive code and that they even don`t know how to drive a car , and that Tirana highway in the year 1999 when a family friend visited it had only one part of 5% with light !

Bilbao

pre 9 godina

Since we all know Croats are not really Slavs, but actually Persians, she clearly dyes her hair if's she's a genetically pure Hrvat :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 17 June 2016 23:07)

Serbs as well are Persians by the way, you have the same language!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

do you think she is a REAL blonde?
(harry met sally, 17 June 2016 16:56)

No. Since we all know Croats are not really Slavs, but actually Persians, she clearly dyes her hair if's she's a genetically pure Hrvat :)

adrian_bucharest

pre 9 godina

For AriGold

You know what AriGold , if Romania have 57% of Eu while Croatia 58% and as consumption Romania and Croatia 58% equal this Croatia is a nobody

Is even more poor than Romania if we cut Moldova region of Romania from ecuation + many Romanian friends been in Croatia for holydays and told me that is extremly expensive .

Serbia might be poor because of 1990s and actualy is not poor because average salary is 400 euro , in Ukraine is 130 euro , In Belarus 250 euro , in Russia under 400 euro , attention Serbia isn`t really poor

Croatia in terms of minimum and average salary is developed but big unemployment + to small country Croatia is as a Bucharest-Ilfov or a Belgrade and Vojvodina region

All in All if Croatia in statiscs as cosumption is same as Romania it say a lot of how good they live .

Croatia will never live good as in West , but some regions from Serbia and Romania might live as in West in special from Romania the rgion Bucharest-Ilfov in that region nobody is payed anymore under 500 euro per month not matter of job + low prices .

Croatia developed ? then why is in statistics as the nobody Romania ?

Ragnar

pre 9 godina

It was only a question of time before Croatians came back cap in hand to Serbia. Vucic would do well to distance himself from this Trojan horse as it's laid enough manure on Serbia's,Krajina's and RS's doorstep over the last 150 years and now it's got an upset stomach once again. Sorry guys no more Yugoslavias for us. That Croatian criminal Tito never answered for his crimes just like Pavelic and Tudjman the list is endless and this woman Kitarovic sadly is of the same ilk and actually is not embarrassed to say that she admires those rogues.

Jeff

pre 9 godina

What a joke. Serbia has been trying to make nice with everyone in the region, apologising for everything, putting our Prime Minister at risk of a lynching, and all we got from these haters was the finger. Now when everyone realises that Serbia has real potential to make money, they want a piece of the action. Makes me physically sick. Next George Soros will be coming to Belgrade!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

The daily's sources said it was Grabar-Kitarovic who "took the initiative to improve relations with Belgrade because the Croatian government (that fell on Thursday) was doing the opposite, making moves, especially internationally, that additionally worsened relations."

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More than likely external, non-Yugoslav, pressure contributed to this "initiative".

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Hilarious. While the government was in power then it was conditioning Serbia this and that. Now the government fell after a months long crisis and look who all of the sudden is a desirable partner for the fascists? It reminds me of how Yugoslavia all of the sudden seemed desirable only once Austro-Hungary and Nazi Germany lost and fell apart. Please Vucic don't relent when they are at their weakest. This is no coincidence, Croatia needs Serbia now more than ever.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Hilarious. While the government was in power then it was conditioning Serbia this and that. Now the government fell after a months long crisis and look who all of the sudden is a desirable partner for the fascists? It reminds me of how Yugoslavia all of the sudden seemed desirable only once Austro-Hungary and Nazi Germany lost and fell apart. Please Vucic don't relent when they are at their weakest. This is no coincidence, Croatia needs Serbia now more than ever.

Jeff

pre 9 godina

What a joke. Serbia has been trying to make nice with everyone in the region, apologising for everything, putting our Prime Minister at risk of a lynching, and all we got from these haters was the finger. Now when everyone realises that Serbia has real potential to make money, they want a piece of the action. Makes me physically sick. Next George Soros will be coming to Belgrade!

Ragnar

pre 9 godina

It was only a question of time before Croatians came back cap in hand to Serbia. Vucic would do well to distance himself from this Trojan horse as it's laid enough manure on Serbia's,Krajina's and RS's doorstep over the last 150 years and now it's got an upset stomach once again. Sorry guys no more Yugoslavias for us. That Croatian criminal Tito never answered for his crimes just like Pavelic and Tudjman the list is endless and this woman Kitarovic sadly is of the same ilk and actually is not embarrassed to say that she admires those rogues.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

The daily's sources said it was Grabar-Kitarovic who "took the initiative to improve relations with Belgrade because the Croatian government (that fell on Thursday) was doing the opposite, making moves, especially internationally, that additionally worsened relations."

---

More than likely external, non-Yugoslav, pressure contributed to this "initiative".

Bilbao

pre 9 godina

Since we all know Croats are not really Slavs, but actually Persians, she clearly dyes her hair if's she's a genetically pure Hrvat :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 17 June 2016 23:07)

Serbs as well are Persians by the way, you have the same language!

adrian_bucharest

pre 9 godina

For AriGold

You know what AriGold , if Romania have 57% of Eu while Croatia 58% and as consumption Romania and Croatia 58% equal this Croatia is a nobody

Is even more poor than Romania if we cut Moldova region of Romania from ecuation + many Romanian friends been in Croatia for holydays and told me that is extremly expensive .

Serbia might be poor because of 1990s and actualy is not poor because average salary is 400 euro , in Ukraine is 130 euro , In Belarus 250 euro , in Russia under 400 euro , attention Serbia isn`t really poor

Croatia in terms of minimum and average salary is developed but big unemployment + to small country Croatia is as a Bucharest-Ilfov or a Belgrade and Vojvodina region

All in All if Croatia in statiscs as cosumption is same as Romania it say a lot of how good they live .

Croatia will never live good as in West , but some regions from Serbia and Romania might live as in West in special from Romania the rgion Bucharest-Ilfov in that region nobody is payed anymore under 500 euro per month not matter of job + low prices .

Croatia developed ? then why is in statistics as the nobody Romania ?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

do you think she is a REAL blonde?
(harry met sally, 17 June 2016 16:56)

No. Since we all know Croats are not really Slavs, but actually Persians, she clearly dyes her hair if's she's a genetically pure Hrvat :)

adrian_bucharest

pre 9 godina

Croatia is poor because it have exactly the same individual consumption like Romania 2015 ( 2016 under Romania ) and Romania is a nobody a nothing , we are starving here ,

How had became Croatia , to have individual consumption under Romania in 2016 it means you are a NOBODY . At least Serbia had 1990s wars , embargo , sanctions , amputed teritory , amputed even seea of Montengro . About Albania all people know that till 1990s they not had even a drive code and that they even don`t know how to drive a car , and that Tirana highway in the year 1999 when a family friend visited it had only one part of 5% with light !

Bob1

pre 9 godina

She doesn't think stepinac is a ustasha she doesn't think hasanbegovic is a ustasha she doesn't think Thompson is a ustasha.tell her to take a hike and get her products out of Serbia.

sj

pre 9 godina

Serbs as well are Persians by the way, you have the same language!
(Bilbao, 18 June 2016 13:34)

Its all part of the indo european family of languages, but modern Farsi has no resemblance to Serbian.

sj

pre 9 godina

Today Croatia is heavily in debt while EU aid is reducing at a drastic pace to the point that life is very hard there. I was in Croatia last year and their only income is tourism and some meagre manufacturing. This manufacturing is being subsidised by government and there is extreme pressure on Zagreb’s budget to privatise everything thus Tom Oreskovic’s main task.
On the surface road infrastructure is very good but it’s mostly in private hands and tolls are expensive and prohibitive for locals. Average monthly wage is not 700 Euros but 300.
Rail is falling apart and roads not on the tourist areas are crumbling. Swimming anywhere in the Adriatic is risky as sewerage plants have not been updated since the mid-1980s and talk of registering the coastal part on the UNRSCO register is impossible since it would take billions of Euros to bring infrastructure to standard.
Little Kolendar thinks that these meetings are going to somehow ally these problems but these talks are about borders, compensation for Serb-owned property who fled Croatia, payment to Serbia money that Belgrade has paid in pensions, but they actually belong to Zagreb.
Let me just add this amounts to billions of Euros. There is no walking away from this no matter who is in government. We will drain Croatia dry LOL.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Hilarious. While the government was in power then it was conditioning Serbia this and that. Now the government fell after a months long crisis and look who all of the sudden is a desirable partner for the fascists? It reminds me of how Yugoslavia all of the sudden seemed desirable only once Austro-Hungary and Nazi Germany lost and fell apart. Please Vucic don't relent when they are at their weakest. This is no coincidence, Croatia needs Serbia now more than ever.

Jeff

pre 9 godina

What a joke. Serbia has been trying to make nice with everyone in the region, apologising for everything, putting our Prime Minister at risk of a lynching, and all we got from these haters was the finger. Now when everyone realises that Serbia has real potential to make money, they want a piece of the action. Makes me physically sick. Next George Soros will be coming to Belgrade!

adrian_bucharest

pre 9 godina

For AriGold

You know what AriGold , if Romania have 57% of Eu while Croatia 58% and as consumption Romania and Croatia 58% equal this Croatia is a nobody

Is even more poor than Romania if we cut Moldova region of Romania from ecuation + many Romanian friends been in Croatia for holydays and told me that is extremly expensive .

Serbia might be poor because of 1990s and actualy is not poor because average salary is 400 euro , in Ukraine is 130 euro , In Belarus 250 euro , in Russia under 400 euro , attention Serbia isn`t really poor

Croatia in terms of minimum and average salary is developed but big unemployment + to small country Croatia is as a Bucharest-Ilfov or a Belgrade and Vojvodina region

All in All if Croatia in statiscs as cosumption is same as Romania it say a lot of how good they live .

Croatia will never live good as in West , but some regions from Serbia and Romania might live as in West in special from Romania the rgion Bucharest-Ilfov in that region nobody is payed anymore under 500 euro per month not matter of job + low prices .

Croatia developed ? then why is in statistics as the nobody Romania ?

Ragnar

pre 9 godina

It was only a question of time before Croatians came back cap in hand to Serbia. Vucic would do well to distance himself from this Trojan horse as it's laid enough manure on Serbia's,Krajina's and RS's doorstep over the last 150 years and now it's got an upset stomach once again. Sorry guys no more Yugoslavias for us. That Croatian criminal Tito never answered for his crimes just like Pavelic and Tudjman the list is endless and this woman Kitarovic sadly is of the same ilk and actually is not embarrassed to say that she admires those rogues.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

do you think she is a REAL blonde?
(harry met sally, 17 June 2016 16:56)

No. Since we all know Croats are not really Slavs, but actually Persians, she clearly dyes her hair if's she's a genetically pure Hrvat :)

adrian_bucharest

pre 9 godina

Croatia is poor because it have exactly the same individual consumption like Romania 2015 ( 2016 under Romania ) and Romania is a nobody a nothing , we are starving here ,

How had became Croatia , to have individual consumption under Romania in 2016 it means you are a NOBODY . At least Serbia had 1990s wars , embargo , sanctions , amputed teritory , amputed even seea of Montengro . About Albania all people know that till 1990s they not had even a drive code and that they even don`t know how to drive a car , and that Tirana highway in the year 1999 when a family friend visited it had only one part of 5% with light !

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

The daily's sources said it was Grabar-Kitarovic who "took the initiative to improve relations with Belgrade because the Croatian government (that fell on Thursday) was doing the opposite, making moves, especially internationally, that additionally worsened relations."

---

More than likely external, non-Yugoslav, pressure contributed to this "initiative".

Bilbao

pre 9 godina

Since we all know Croats are not really Slavs, but actually Persians, she clearly dyes her hair if's she's a genetically pure Hrvat :)
(Balkan Anthropologist, 17 June 2016 23:07)

Serbs as well are Persians by the way, you have the same language!

Bob1

pre 9 godina

She doesn't think stepinac is a ustasha she doesn't think hasanbegovic is a ustasha she doesn't think Thompson is a ustasha.tell her to take a hike and get her products out of Serbia.

sj

pre 9 godina

Serbs as well are Persians by the way, you have the same language!
(Bilbao, 18 June 2016 13:34)

Its all part of the indo european family of languages, but modern Farsi has no resemblance to Serbian.

sj

pre 9 godina

Today Croatia is heavily in debt while EU aid is reducing at a drastic pace to the point that life is very hard there. I was in Croatia last year and their only income is tourism and some meagre manufacturing. This manufacturing is being subsidised by government and there is extreme pressure on Zagreb’s budget to privatise everything thus Tom Oreskovic’s main task.
On the surface road infrastructure is very good but it’s mostly in private hands and tolls are expensive and prohibitive for locals. Average monthly wage is not 700 Euros but 300.
Rail is falling apart and roads not on the tourist areas are crumbling. Swimming anywhere in the Adriatic is risky as sewerage plants have not been updated since the mid-1980s and talk of registering the coastal part on the UNRSCO register is impossible since it would take billions of Euros to bring infrastructure to standard.
Little Kolendar thinks that these meetings are going to somehow ally these problems but these talks are about borders, compensation for Serb-owned property who fled Croatia, payment to Serbia money that Belgrade has paid in pensions, but they actually belong to Zagreb.
Let me just add this amounts to billions of Euros. There is no walking away from this no matter who is in government. We will drain Croatia dry LOL.