Erdogan "launders millions by building mosques in Kosovo"

wWow, big surprise!! Terrorists and gangsters unite!! I'm curious, what's the difference between Turks and albanians?

Serbia has UNESCO recognized world heritage ancient churches and monasteries, Albanians have Erdogan's illegal mosques. Congratulations. No wonder why the KLA want to steal what belongs to Serbia.

He's laundering the millions that AKP ministers ,their relatives and even Erdogan’s son were caught with,stuffed in shoe boxes in their own houses.Seriously ,Erdogan is nothing more than a con artist,a megalomaniac who thinks he can resurrect the Ottoman empire (thus the $615 million spent on refurbishing the last Sultan palaces which he uses as his residence).In the meantime the average turk has to survive on less than 300 euros a month.He has no doctrine other than his own enrichment and whatever it is that he can use to exert power over the people - religion and hardening Islam;Hence ,it's no surprising of his decision to build more mosques wherever he sees that conditions are ideal for such projects.
Recently ,Erdogan is playing a game on three fronts actually so far - a terrible machiavellian game of 'enemy of my enemy' - as they fight:.
1. Assad
2. The Kurdish Nation
3. Trying to appease the IS by not getting in her way and at the same time profit from IS fighting Assad & the kurds

This policy has backfired now and it seems to me that Erdogan has been sold down the toilet by the Obama Gang.The Kurds in Syria RE winning their battles and I can see the US establishing an independent Kurdistan in the near future encompassing both Iraqi/Turkish Kurdish areas with Syria.

And the second largest money launderer: Germany.

Islamatization of Europe continues.

very easy one to answer, language is the difference. to be frank you, i've always wondered what the difference between you and a really stupid person is, because your comments insinuate that there isn't any

This is more proof that albanians originate from the turkish mongols and not from some fantasy "illyrian Viking Swat tribe" who settled the balkans some 86 maximilian lightyears ago. Albs, your origins are closer then you think!

slamatization of Europe continues.
(Roger7, 17 August 2015 14:51)

It helps their austerity projects.The real austerity project is to drive down wages and living standards in the west for decades,until they meet those of the middle class in China and India on the way up.

You're right. That's the only difference.
(Peggy, 18 August 2015 06:12)

Have you ever seen your chetnik heroes how look like???

(MikeC, 17 August 2015 23:13)

We have no problem with our origin, is very well documented. We know who we are, i think you should search yours, because Serbs came from Russian steppes. Hello mr. polar bear!
But, i'm not clear about the proves you are talking about mr. brainwash professor.
1. The different dna ?
2. The different language ?
3. The different appearance ?
Or What?
Ohh... yes, 1/2 of Albanians share Muslim religion, so for sure according to you if i chose to believe in Judaism i'm a Jew origin?
About the Mongols - you should know that Mongols have a close dna with slavs, and even regarding their language, try to find something else..
Just for your own culture: Albania language is unique in world, ( Check - i liri ane - in albanian )
Albanian is an Indo-European language ranged with English - Germanic languages, with any kind of similarity with slavic, Greek, Turk, or latin.
The large nr. of words with latin origin show that Albanians were in contact with Romans during the early antiquity.
The presence of latin origin words you will find even in Greeks, in Brits, maybe even in Germans because all those people were in contact with Romans, as much as we were.
So, dear you must believe whatever you want i don't care – but first show to me first "what" you are?

@ b92 moderator

You are really boring!
I'm tired, to fight with you!
I know you will win!

The Albanians were among the first cave people in the Balkans. As y'all can see, they still fancy themselves with names like Rocky, Rocco and Bam Bam.
They were regularly chased by the civilized newcomers for stealing firewood and squatting on their land. Hence no roots or structures to be found.

Ida
If he was sold down the river then why is he still standing strong?

He's not.The fact that his AKP party has reduced its electoral support from 60% of the earlier years to 40& at the recent election speaks volumes of Erdogan's support.Furthermore,his decision to move to presidency and his attempts to change the constitution to strengthen his position so he could become president for life shows that Erdogan is deeply worried about his future.

Many people are wondering why the U.S. is bombing the main people in that area of Syria who are fighting ISIS.

The Islamic State (IS) is a creation of US intelligence with the support of Britain’s MI6, Israel’s Mossad, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Presidency (GIP), Ri’āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-’Āmah.Moreover, according to Israeli intelligence sources (Debka) NATO in liaison with the Turkish High Command has been involved in the recruitment of jihadist mercenaries from the outset of the Syrian crisis in March 2011.It's therefore imperative for the US to keep ISIS operative since it serves their interests ie Regime change in Syria.

I won't believe Erdogan was sold until he is actually out of power.

Erdogan has probably realised by now that the US have sussed him out of his two-faced games and their peace agreement with Iran testifies to that.I think the US will go further in reducing Turkey's role as a regional power by facilitating the creation of a Kurdish state.

@ b92 moderator

You are really boring!
I'm tired, to fight with you!
I know you will win!

(Joni, 17 August 2015 18:05)


I love you Joni ! Sounds as if it was B92 who came to you home place and became “boring” … In Caucasus people say that guest remains a guest until he remembers that he is a guest … Anyway I believe that it was the comment of the month. Congratulations !

"This is more proof that albanians originate from the turkish mongols"
MikeC

If Albanians start calling themselves Turks, then you would have millions of Turks moving into "their homes" in Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, etc. just like they did in Northern Cyprus when Turkey invaded it. Turkey has 70 million people and one of the strongest militaries in the world. It could destroy all of Serbia in a few hours if "its land" was being threatened. Trust me, if Albanians really believed Kosovo is Turkey and Turkey is Kosovo and start inviting Turks in, Serbia would disappear in less than a generation. Careful what you wish for! We want good relationships with Turkey, but we are quite proud of our heritage and don't want to be called Turks.

Serbs love to propagate lies about the origins of Albanians, but you should try to use your brain, if you have one. Calling Albanians Turks is probably not to your advantage. Serbia or any Balkan nation wouldn't dare go against Turkey ;)

"So I take it that you think you are the same people but over time your language or their language has changed. I was being sarcastic by agreeing with you. "

you took from my answer that i think we are the same people? oh dear, you really are suffering from brain cell deficiency.

Serbia has UNESCO recognized world heritage ancient churches and monasteries, Albanians have Erdogan's illegal mosques. Congratulations. No wonder why the KLA want to steal what belongs to Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 17 August 2015 14:26)
I loved this comment because it pretty much sums up the UNESCO fight from Serbs. Other than the fact that Serbs know that every little grain of international acceptance means one less grain in the chance that Serbia would ever regain control of Kosovo.

But what the comment highlights is that should Kosovo become an UNESCO member, it can recommend what sites in Kosovo become World Heritage sites. As the number of historical mosques are added to the list, the dilution of Serbian history is evident. If say that in 10 years Kosovo has 10 Muslim historical sites and 4 Serbian orthodox, the argument that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian Orthodox religion suddenly loses its effectiveness.

rote, I honestly have to be honest with you and that I have no idea what you're on about. I do know that you subscribe to the garbage notion of Fomenko, so pardon me for not taking your history lecturing seriously

Leonidas

“Erdogan has been sold down the toilet by the Obama Gang.”

Exactly ! Here’s the point as I can merely imagine that such a wild Islamic and Nationalistic fundamentalist will earn money on mosques. It is Harram ! Leonidas I’ve been missing your radical comments but this time I feel pity about the Turkish Hawk. He makes too many mistakes to remain in the chair. Yet the news looks like a pre-planned wide scale attack on him. See what they say “TIKA keeps its finances secret”, “money laundering via Kosovo", “suspicion that the money is being brought in illegally” … I refuse to comment it all. Laundering = stealing but they build mosques not villas ! Lets see if Erdogan (“hawk”) can spoil the US plans like Assad (“lion”) did. Also it’s so funny to read that most of the mosques were built during the Ottomans because Islam appeared in this Empire in the middle ages (not in 622) and it was the state religion here since 18 century. Balkan people have established that Empire but they also were to suffer most during the agony of 19-20 centuries. What I like in these Turkish nationalists is that sometimes they tell the truth about the Empire they are dreaming of. Late Turgut Ozal once said that the Empire included India, Central Asia and reached the Chinese Wall. Same was the ISIL map released last week and both of them were right. Coz eastern border of the Ottomans wasn’t restricted by Iran as they tell us in Europe.

"You're right. That's the only difference"

OK, not sure if this was meant to be offensive or what, but the sake of my education, can you tell me what is wrong with being Turkish?

@ b92 moderator

You are really boring!
I'm tired, to fight with you!
I know you will win!

(Joni, 17 August 2015 18:05)

You're labeling them boring and yet you never communicated directly with them, or know who they are. Imagine that.

If I had to read Albanian gibberish on daily basis, I'd probably go postal in one of them sweet shops where one can still get lice and ticks.

very easy one to answer, language is the difference.
(Nikolle, 17 August 2015 13:04)
====================================
You're right. That's the only difference.

"You're right. That's the only difference"

OK, not sure if this was meant to be offensive or what, but the sake of my education, can you tell me what is wrong with being Turkish?
(Nikolle, 18 August 2015 12:08)
===========================
Reading your answer further down you are saying that the only difference between Turks and Albanians is the language. So I take it that you think you are the same people but over time your language or their language has changed. I was being sarcastic by agreeing with you.
I never said there was anything wrong with being Turkish. I don't think I even implied it.

You know people. As I read your posts. It is sad that Serbs have to Answer to Turks about Albanians. And you have Turks using Albanians as a tool to associate themselves with the balkans. I am an Albanian. Turks are trying to recreate the Ottoman empire. I don't believe Albanian lands should be under anyone else but Albanians. I don't need Turks on here telling Serbs what kind of Albanian people they are. They should be ashamed of themselves how they are treating the Kurds and minorities in their country. How they dominated lands. Turks have killed more Muslims then Serbs have. They like to talk about Albanian history as if they know it. And yet the Turks themselves the original turks came from China! Turkey today is a mythical state with the real turkish population about 40% the rest are Albanians, Serbians, Arabs, Greeks and yes the biggest minority are the Kurds. Religion is always used by all people to divide and conquer. It has become a business. And we are not very religious people. We are as religious as the Serbs are. For example, Serbs and Turks really love their churches and mosques. Albanians don't care! We have nothing to do with the Turks! They should worry about giving freedom to their own Muslims the Kurds before sidetracking the real story of their country by pointing to Kosova and Albanian history of which they know nothing about. They should not worry about what goes on in Yugoslavia they never helped out during the Bosnian or Kosova war.

“can you tell me what is wrong with being Turkish?”

(Nikolle)


It depends on two things only – the side you are looking at it and the prejudices that had been nailed into your mind. When Balkan peoples bark at the Ottomans they bark at their own ancestors who seized this territory in 1453 and created the south wing of the Horde that only since early 19 century was called the Ottomans, the Turks or the Osmans. Before 19 century none of the Balkan peoples had ever fought the Turks. Serbs like Sokol Oglu Pasha made the elite of the “turks” and so were the Shqiptars like Mehmed Pashë Kypriljoti. Balkan peoples have glorious history and I can tell amazing things about it.

But most of you already think that I am crazy so here I stop. Remain prisoners of your imagination and trust on in the tales that a man with 300 horsemen could fight the Great Mohammad Fatih and that with his Slav parents, his Slav wife and 9 children with Slav names he could be the Great Warrior of Shqiptaria ! Serbs are nothing better when they believe that РАШКА means Serbia but not Little Russia or that Stefan Urosh Dusan was a Serb. Despite the evident Urosh meaning Russian.

Smelles like Senor is coming soon. Are j'all ready?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5j37Xktf6Q

"This policy has backfired now and it seems to me that Erdogan has been sold down the toilet by the Obama Gang.The Kurds in Syria RE winning their battles and I can see the US establishing an independent Kurdistan in the near future encompassing both Iraqi/Turkish Kurdish areas with Syria."

If he was sold down the river then why is he still standing strong?

And the U.S. has been bombing and killing the Kurds and PKK and allowing Turkey to do the same.

Many people are wondering why the U.S. is bombing the main people in that area of Syria who are fighting ISIS.

I won't believe Erdogan was sold until he is actually out of power, if ever, AND none of his closest allies or relatives take over after him.

very easy one to answer, language is the difference. to be frank you, i've always wondered what the difference between you and a really stupid person is, because your comments insinuate that there isn't any

wWow, big surprise!! Terrorists and gangsters unite!! I'm curious, what's the difference between Turks and albanians?

Serbia has UNESCO recognized world heritage ancient churches and monasteries, Albanians have Erdogan's illegal mosques. Congratulations. No wonder why the KLA want to steal what belongs to Serbia.

And the second largest money launderer: Germany.

This is more proof that albanians originate from the turkish mongols and not from some fantasy "illyrian Viking Swat tribe" who settled the balkans some 86 maximilian lightyears ago. Albs, your origins are closer then you think!

Islamatization of Europe continues.

(MikeC, 17 August 2015 23:13)

We have no problem with our origin, is very well documented. We know who we are, i think you should search yours, because Serbs came from Russian steppes. Hello mr. polar bear!
But, i'm not clear about the proves you are talking about mr. brainwash professor.
1. The different dna ?
2. The different language ?
3. The different appearance ?
Or What?
Ohh... yes, 1/2 of Albanians share Muslim religion, so for sure according to you if i chose to believe in Judaism i'm a Jew origin?
About the Mongols - you should know that Mongols have a close dna with slavs, and even regarding their language, try to find something else..
Just for your own culture: Albania language is unique in world, ( Check - i liri ane - in albanian )
Albanian is an Indo-European language ranged with English - Germanic languages, with any kind of similarity with slavic, Greek, Turk, or latin.
The large nr. of words with latin origin show that Albanians were in contact with Romans during the early antiquity.
The presence of latin origin words you will find even in Greeks, in Brits, maybe even in Germans because all those people were in contact with Romans, as much as we were.
So, dear you must believe whatever you want i don't care – but first show to me first "what" you are?

slamatization of Europe continues.
(Roger7, 17 August 2015 14:51)

It helps their austerity projects.The real austerity project is to drive down wages and living standards in the west for decades,until they meet those of the middle class in China and India on the way up.

You're right. That's the only difference.
(Peggy, 18 August 2015 06:12)

Have you ever seen your chetnik heroes how look like???

He's laundering the millions that AKP ministers ,their relatives and even Erdogan’s son were caught with,stuffed in shoe boxes in their own houses.Seriously ,Erdogan is nothing more than a con artist,a megalomaniac who thinks he can resurrect the Ottoman empire (thus the $615 million spent on refurbishing the last Sultan palaces which he uses as his residence).In the meantime the average turk has to survive on less than 300 euros a month.He has no doctrine other than his own enrichment and whatever it is that he can use to exert power over the people - religion and hardening Islam;Hence ,it's no surprising of his decision to build more mosques wherever he sees that conditions are ideal for such projects.
Recently ,Erdogan is playing a game on three fronts actually so far - a terrible machiavellian game of 'enemy of my enemy' - as they fight:.
1. Assad
2. The Kurdish Nation
3. Trying to appease the IS by not getting in her way and at the same time profit from IS fighting Assad & the kurds

This policy has backfired now and it seems to me that Erdogan has been sold down the toilet by the Obama Gang.The Kurds in Syria RE winning their battles and I can see the US establishing an independent Kurdistan in the near future encompassing both Iraqi/Turkish Kurdish areas with Syria.

@ b92 moderator

You are really boring!
I'm tired, to fight with you!
I know you will win!

(Joni, 17 August 2015 18:05)


I love you Joni ! Sounds as if it was B92 who came to you home place and became “boring” … In Caucasus people say that guest remains a guest until he remembers that he is a guest … Anyway I believe that it was the comment of the month. Congratulations !

“can you tell me what is wrong with being Turkish?”

(Nikolle)


It depends on two things only – the side you are looking at it and the prejudices that had been nailed into your mind. When Balkan peoples bark at the Ottomans they bark at their own ancestors who seized this territory in 1453 and created the south wing of the Horde that only since early 19 century was called the Ottomans, the Turks or the Osmans. Before 19 century none of the Balkan peoples had ever fought the Turks. Serbs like Sokol Oglu Pasha made the elite of the “turks” and so were the Shqiptars like Mehmed Pashë Kypriljoti. Balkan peoples have glorious history and I can tell amazing things about it.

But most of you already think that I am crazy so here I stop. Remain prisoners of your imagination and trust on in the tales that a man with 300 horsemen could fight the Great Mohammad Fatih and that with his Slav parents, his Slav wife and 9 children with Slav names he could be the Great Warrior of Shqiptaria ! Serbs are nothing better when they believe that РАШКА means Serbia but not Little Russia or that Stefan Urosh Dusan was a Serb. Despite the evident Urosh meaning Russian.

@ b92 moderator

You are really boring!
I'm tired, to fight with you!
I know you will win!

(Joni, 17 August 2015 18:05)

You're labeling them boring and yet you never communicated directly with them, or know who they are. Imagine that.

If I had to read Albanian gibberish on daily basis, I'd probably go postal in one of them sweet shops where one can still get lice and ticks.

Serbia has UNESCO recognized world heritage ancient churches and monasteries, Albanians have Erdogan's illegal mosques. Congratulations. No wonder why the KLA want to steal what belongs to Serbia.
(Ari Gold, 17 August 2015 14:26)
I loved this comment because it pretty much sums up the UNESCO fight from Serbs. Other than the fact that Serbs know that every little grain of international acceptance means one less grain in the chance that Serbia would ever regain control of Kosovo.

But what the comment highlights is that should Kosovo become an UNESCO member, it can recommend what sites in Kosovo become World Heritage sites. As the number of historical mosques are added to the list, the dilution of Serbian history is evident. If say that in 10 years Kosovo has 10 Muslim historical sites and 4 Serbian orthodox, the argument that Kosovo is the cradle of Serbian Orthodox religion suddenly loses its effectiveness.

Leonidas

“Erdogan has been sold down the toilet by the Obama Gang.”

Exactly ! Here’s the point as I can merely imagine that such a wild Islamic and Nationalistic fundamentalist will earn money on mosques. It is Harram ! Leonidas I’ve been missing your radical comments but this time I feel pity about the Turkish Hawk. He makes too many mistakes to remain in the chair. Yet the news looks like a pre-planned wide scale attack on him. See what they say “TIKA keeps its finances secret”, “money laundering via Kosovo", “suspicion that the money is being brought in illegally” … I refuse to comment it all. Laundering = stealing but they build mosques not villas ! Lets see if Erdogan (“hawk”) can spoil the US plans like Assad (“lion”) did. Also it’s so funny to read that most of the mosques were built during the Ottomans because Islam appeared in this Empire in the middle ages (not in 622) and it was the state religion here since 18 century. Balkan people have established that Empire but they also were to suffer most during the agony of 19-20 centuries. What I like in these Turkish nationalists is that sometimes they tell the truth about the Empire they are dreaming of. Late Turgut Ozal once said that the Empire included India, Central Asia and reached the Chinese Wall. Same was the ISIL map released last week and both of them were right. Coz eastern border of the Ottomans wasn’t restricted by Iran as they tell us in Europe.

very easy one to answer, language is the difference.
(Nikolle, 17 August 2015 13:04)
====================================
You're right. That's the only difference.

"This is more proof that albanians originate from the turkish mongols"
MikeC

If Albanians start calling themselves Turks, then you would have millions of Turks moving into "their homes" in Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, etc. just like they did in Northern Cyprus when Turkey invaded it. Turkey has 70 million people and one of the strongest militaries in the world. It could destroy all of Serbia in a few hours if "its land" was being threatened. Trust me, if Albanians really believed Kosovo is Turkey and Turkey is Kosovo and start inviting Turks in, Serbia would disappear in less than a generation. Careful what you wish for! We want good relationships with Turkey, but we are quite proud of our heritage and don't want to be called Turks.

Serbs love to propagate lies about the origins of Albanians, but you should try to use your brain, if you have one. Calling Albanians Turks is probably not to your advantage. Serbia or any Balkan nation wouldn't dare go against Turkey ;)

"You're right. That's the only difference"

OK, not sure if this was meant to be offensive or what, but the sake of my education, can you tell me what is wrong with being Turkish?

@ b92 moderator

You are really boring!
I'm tired, to fight with you!
I know you will win!

"This policy has backfired now and it seems to me that Erdogan has been sold down the toilet by the Obama Gang.The Kurds in Syria RE winning their battles and I can see the US establishing an independent Kurdistan in the near future encompassing both Iraqi/Turkish Kurdish areas with Syria."

If he was sold down the river then why is he still standing strong?

And the U.S. has been bombing and killing the Kurds and PKK and allowing Turkey to do the same.

Many people are wondering why the U.S. is bombing the main people in that area of Syria who are fighting ISIS.

I won't believe Erdogan was sold until he is actually out of power, if ever, AND none of his closest allies or relatives take over after him.

"You're right. That's the only difference"

OK, not sure if this was meant to be offensive or what, but the sake of my education, can you tell me what is wrong with being Turkish?
(Nikolle, 18 August 2015 12:08)
===========================
Reading your answer further down you are saying that the only difference between Turks and Albanians is the language. So I take it that you think you are the same people but over time your language or their language has changed. I was being sarcastic by agreeing with you.
I never said there was anything wrong with being Turkish. I don't think I even implied it.

The Albanians were among the first cave people in the Balkans. As y'all can see, they still fancy themselves with names like Rocky, Rocco and Bam Bam.
They were regularly chased by the civilized newcomers for stealing firewood and squatting on their land. Hence no roots or structures to be found.

Ida
If he was sold down the river then why is he still standing strong?

He's not.The fact that his AKP party has reduced its electoral support from 60% of the earlier years to 40& at the recent election speaks volumes of Erdogan's support.Furthermore,his decision to move to presidency and his attempts to change the constitution to strengthen his position so he could become president for life shows that Erdogan is deeply worried about his future.

Many people are wondering why the U.S. is bombing the main people in that area of Syria who are fighting ISIS.

The Islamic State (IS) is a creation of US intelligence with the support of Britain’s MI6, Israel’s Mossad, Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and Saudi Arabia’s General Intelligence Presidency (GIP), Ri’āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-’Āmah.Moreover, according to Israeli intelligence sources (Debka) NATO in liaison with the Turkish High Command has been involved in the recruitment of jihadist mercenaries from the outset of the Syrian crisis in March 2011.It's therefore imperative for the US to keep ISIS operative since it serves their interests ie Regime change in Syria.

I won't believe Erdogan was sold until he is actually out of power.

Erdogan has probably realised by now that the US have sussed him out of his two-faced games and their peace agreement with Iran testifies to that.I think the US will go further in reducing Turkey's role as a regional power by facilitating the creation of a Kurdish state.

rote, I honestly have to be honest with you and that I have no idea what you're on about. I do know that you subscribe to the garbage notion of Fomenko, so pardon me for not taking your history lecturing seriously

"So I take it that you think you are the same people but over time your language or their language has changed. I was being sarcastic by agreeing with you. "

you took from my answer that i think we are the same people? oh dear, you really are suffering from brain cell deficiency.

Smelles like Senor is coming soon. Are j'all ready?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5j37Xktf6Q

You know people. As I read your posts. It is sad that Serbs have to Answer to Turks about Albanians. And you have Turks using Albanians as a tool to associate themselves with the balkans. I am an Albanian. Turks are trying to recreate the Ottoman empire. I don't believe Albanian lands should be under anyone else but Albanians. I don't need Turks on here telling Serbs what kind of Albanian people they are. They should be ashamed of themselves how they are treating the Kurds and minorities in their country. How they dominated lands. Turks have killed more Muslims then Serbs have. They like to talk about Albanian history as if they know it. And yet the Turks themselves the original turks came from China! Turkey today is a mythical state with the real turkish population about 40% the rest are Albanians, Serbians, Arabs, Greeks and yes the biggest minority are the Kurds. Religion is always used by all people to divide and conquer. It has become a business. And we are not very religious people. We are as religious as the Serbs are. For example, Serbs and Turks really love their churches and mosques. Albanians don't care! We have nothing to do with the Turks! They should worry about giving freedom to their own Muslims the Kurds before sidetracking the real story of their country by pointing to Kosova and Albanian history of which they know nothing about. They should not worry about what goes on in Yugoslavia they never helped out during the Bosnian or Kosova war.