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Thursday, 06.08.2015.

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Draskovic wants Serbia to "immediately join NATO"

It is high time that Serbia understands that NATO is a ticket without which it cannot enter the EU, Vuk Draskovic has said.

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dule

pre 8 godina

Never mind Serbia joining NATO, it is NATO that should join Serbian in order to jointly promote regional stability.

Draskovic knows he does not count for much any longer, but he is offering himself on the altar of NAT and EU so they could finance him and his party, so HE could make monies while selling out Serbia.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(factman, 7 August 2015 01:44)
Actually a good post, it is true that Serbia can enjoy most of the benefits just as it is doing now as a "partners in peace participant" Serbia does not need the membership at least now as there is no threat at present to Serbia by non NATO members or associates.
But I would also say that any thought of Serbia joining NATO should come only after much debate and thought on BOTH sides.

Reader

pre 8 godina

(Watcher, 6 August 2015 17:46)

Now now Watcher, you shouldn't speak for all Serbs. There are millions of them, I doubt you know them all and even if you knew them, it is statistically impossible for them to be all the same. Draskovic is a Serb and look what he is saying (the first exception to what you say). Nikolic is a Serb and his heart skips a beat any time something Putin related comes to his attention (the second exception). As far as NATO joining goes, Serbia shouldn't join NATO, the likelihood that Serbia would serve as Russia's fifth column inside NATO is still too high. Serbia needs to deserve it first.

Cikatriks

pre 8 godina

Oh, so Wolfie is still alive? Well, nice to know that. Good for him. Not that anyone seem to care what he thinks any more, but that's less important.

jovica

pre 8 godina

The biggest threat in Serbia today is the current government, who are all extremists and live in the past inciting hate speech against neighbors. Nikolic, Vucic, Vulin, Dacic, are all ultra radicals who changed their party names and still operate with the same mindset poisoning the Serbian public with lies and ultra radical propaganda. This is just a tactic to find someone to blame (Croatia) and take the focus away from the terrible economic situation in Serbia.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Yes ...Serbia .....Apply for NATO membership because we do need a place for target practice.

Serbia has wet dreams of 78 days and nights of magnificant aerial gift deposits all over.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Yes ...Serbia .....Apply for NATO membership because we do need a place for target practice.

Serbia has wet dreams of 78 days and nights of magnificant aerial gift deposits all over.

factman

pre 8 godina

Rocky makes a very good point concerning ISIS.

But one can stay neutral and still cooperate with NATO.

One need not be NATO to fight alongside NATO against a common enemy.

After all, NATO needs transit down Corridor 10 and all the East-west linkages currently being made.

Rocky is more interested in neutralizing Serbia as a military threat to Kosovo.

Don't join NATO if they need you. You get the same benefits without having the burden.

Alawneh

pre 8 godina

Wow, yes. Lets basically erase any pride we have, join a organisation that illegally bombed the monkeys out of us 16 years ago, just so we can put out our hands and receive some money.

This guy is having a laugh.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

I like how some view Serbia as being in the crosshairs of Russia if it does not being subservient nation willing to jump higher than the echelons of NATO demand.

The reality is we are surrounded on all sides by NATO states and with some exception every state surrounding us has some kind of US military presence; or there are states pursuing a NATO lie. Literally Russia can't get into Serbia militarily without violating the airspace of several NATO nations in a way that is more serious than just buzzing into Norway's airspace or the like.

There is really no way Russia to harm NATO through Serbia as the extremist Russophobes in Serbia and outside claim too. No, the real threat to Serbia are the extreme NATOphiles who'd gladly use army recruits as cannon fodder on NATO missions and several neighbouring states who will use their roles in NATO and the EU to undermine Serbia.

A bigger threat to Serbia is what the likes of Hungary, Croatia and Albania will do if Serbia pursues EU/NATO membership. Expect them to treat us the same way Greece treats Macedonia. With neighbours like these no one needs the USA or Russia destroying our soviergnity.

Better to declare ourselves neutral like Austria or Switzerland vis-a-vis NATO. And if we pursue EU membership don't provoke Germany into supporting the claims of Croatia and Hungary's right wing.

Bosnian Serb

pre 8 godina

"Moderate Serb",
You're not a Serb, nor have any anthropology understanding of Serbs. There are Serbs who have went to Iraq as private security contractors willing to earn less than $30,000 per month for their service. Because of them and others that are willing to work less than what the US private security contractors ask for ($30,000) the pay has dropped drastically to the point that the original US contractors were no longer willing to risk going there for low pay. Serbia's army pays peanuts compared to private security contractors. Stop spreading false outlooks. A young person on the street can't join the professional Serb army immediately and be sent somewhere on a NATO mission. Stop impersonating Serbs.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

"Moderate Serb", clearly you didn't see Who I referred to. Let them go fight for NATO in Afghanistan, hell all they need to do is go to France, join the foreign legion and they can rest assured they'll go if NATO doesn't wanna take random people of the streets. But I'm sure someone with a history of sending unarmed men to die, like Draskovic could find away to arrange them going to Afghanistan.

But, who exactly are these hundreds of Serbs in ISIS. Last count there were only 30 citizens of Serbia in it almost exclusively from the Muslim community (who across the Balkans, by the way, are less prone to joining ISIS than NATOs Muslim citizens). Comparably a similar number of Serbs have volunteered to fight as mercenaries in Donetsk.

Nah, I'd rather not join NATO and encourage Serbia's Muslim citizens to go join ISIS or convince a few more to join the Donetsk rebels out of Inat.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

If he wants to join NaTo he should try to recruit young men to go to Afghanistan and fight, let him see how many will take up his offer.
(Yaroslav, 6 August 2015 16:36)

Yaro,
It shouldn't be a problem since there are hundreds of poor young Serb men signing up for ISIS. It does not take much, understandibly, to buy a Serb who is destitute, as most are. I am being truthful unlike the many nationalists on B92 that are unsuccessfully attempting to whitewash the dire economic situation in Serbia.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

After Draskovic and his wife were beaten silly by Milosevic's thugs several years ago, he has finally caught on which side his bread is buttered. Good for Vuk, although, it is a bit late. Serbia's ONLY salvation is in NATO.

The Driver

pre 8 godina

He is right about one thing; the EU & NATO are two heads of the same beast and come as a package. The question now is does Serbia need either? NATO is leading the world into war with Russia & China, does Serbia need to join in that war? The EU is falling apart; just look at your neighbors Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, and Romania how are they fairing in the EU? Not very well; Greece is barely a state with no control at all over their economy, Bulgaria was forced to cancel South Stream which would have been extremely beneficial for them, again no control & no sovereignty. Croatia lives off of EU loans and tourism and their standard of living is going south. Is this what Serbia needs after all the devastation that NATO & the EU inflicted upon it?

Watcher

pre 8 godina

@ Rocky -
I understand your response and I can appreciate from your side of the street. You find security in the protection of "bigger" & "stronger"...that's perfectly fine & OK...if that's what makes you sleep better at night.You're hope that by appeasing the beast, it will eat you last. That's the majority way of people's thinking..."collective security". THIS is what Vuk wants. Please youtube 'za evropskom stolu" and it's pretty self explainitory and eye opening! I don't have a problem with that...However, the Serbian Integrity of Pride just doesn't allow us to be footstools for others...Funny people, these Serbs...If you ASK them, they will give you all they have, If you TELL them, they will fight to the death not to give you ANYTHING. When Jugoslavia was maliously dismembered, ALL factions made a grab for what they felt belonged to them...ALL FACTIONS!!! Brutal?..YES..FROM ALL SIDES!!!Anyways Rocky, I understand your comment. You guys NEED Serbia to succumb, one way or another,...they tried bombing, now they're trying "nice"...I doubt it'll work. My prandeda was that way, my deda was that way, my dad is that way, I'm that way and I can already see it in my son...My thought is "Thank God" because otherwise we would be in these "unions" & "blocks"..sucking the tit they tell us too. Friends to all, slaves to None...I cannot see you disagreeing with that. All the best.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

If he wants to join NaTo he should try to recruit young men to go to Afghanistan and fight, let him see how many will take up his offer.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

Vuk Draskovic was the first to recruit paramilitaries, pre-dating Arkan and Seselj, and sent a bunch of young men to die poorly Armed. No, Draskovic deserves to rot in a prison cell with his best man ("kum") Seselj.

When he was a force politically he wasn't pro-NATO and he is irrelevant now. If not for the fact that Serbia's political coalition are desperate to collective every little vote he'd long be retired.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

I've got to say Vuk is 110% on point, finally Vuk a once Chetnik fanatic extremist has awoken from a deep & paralyzingly sleep to realize the reality of what is! The Republic of Kosova is a reality which is lost to Serbia forever, however their can still be a positive outcome of this reality for Serbia as well!
Yesterday's threat in the Balkans was a radical Serbian expansionist policy intent on ceasing territory which was inhabited by other ethnic majority's
(non Serbian) be it Slovenes in Slovenia, Albanians in Kosova, be it Croats in Croatia or Bosnians in Bosnia, all these non Serb people's with the help of NATO and the international community put Serbia in check!!! Todays biggest threat is a new form of demon like Islamic radicalization, one which is being deployed by ISIS, which has its sights on every country of Southern Europe, be it Serbia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosova, Greece, etc! In some of these country's this threat infiltrates much easier because some are more vulnerable because of many factors.
( economic, religious, political)
However, if the democratic forces of these Southern European country's, ones with a civilized mindset sit down and work & communicate with each other we can all be immune to this ISIS threat, and it can be easily defeated! Don't forget all of you Balkan brothers, even though we hold grudges & hatred toward each other at times, many times in our Balkan history we came together to fight against common threats, viciously!

Who cares

pre 8 godina

There is a reason why Draskovic is no longer in politics.
He is a corrupt, self-serving hypocrite who has been clearly inconsistent with his senile and schizophrenic opinions.
Draskovic has clearly been effected by age, and he should no longer be given any credibility in the Serbian media

Vila sa Dedinja

pre 8 godina

To sam ja hteo jos 1989 i 1990 i 1991 dok nije rat poceo, ali avaj tada niko nije slusao. Ni Vuk. Nije imao herca da to kaze javno. Demokrate i Sule nesto pokusase ali chabar.
Sad nam niko i ne nudi vise da udjemo u NATO.

E moj Vuce kad izgubi one prve izbore bilo mi je jasno gde ce da nas put odvede. Zato sam danas 20 000 KM daleko.

Who cares

pre 8 godina

There is a reason why Draskovic is no longer in politics.
He is a corrupt, self-serving hypocrite who has been clearly inconsistent with his senile and schizophrenic opinions.
Draskovic has clearly been effected by age, and he should no longer be given any credibility in the Serbian media

The Driver

pre 8 godina

He is right about one thing; the EU & NATO are two heads of the same beast and come as a package. The question now is does Serbia need either? NATO is leading the world into war with Russia & China, does Serbia need to join in that war? The EU is falling apart; just look at your neighbors Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, and Romania how are they fairing in the EU? Not very well; Greece is barely a state with no control at all over their economy, Bulgaria was forced to cancel South Stream which would have been extremely beneficial for them, again no control & no sovereignty. Croatia lives off of EU loans and tourism and their standard of living is going south. Is this what Serbia needs after all the devastation that NATO & the EU inflicted upon it?

Alawneh

pre 8 godina

Wow, yes. Lets basically erase any pride we have, join a organisation that illegally bombed the monkeys out of us 16 years ago, just so we can put out our hands and receive some money.

This guy is having a laugh.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

If he wants to join NaTo he should try to recruit young men to go to Afghanistan and fight, let him see how many will take up his offer.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

Vuk Draskovic was the first to recruit paramilitaries, pre-dating Arkan and Seselj, and sent a bunch of young men to die poorly Armed. No, Draskovic deserves to rot in a prison cell with his best man ("kum") Seselj.

When he was a force politically he wasn't pro-NATO and he is irrelevant now. If not for the fact that Serbia's political coalition are desperate to collective every little vote he'd long be retired.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

I've got to say Vuk is 110% on point, finally Vuk a once Chetnik fanatic extremist has awoken from a deep & paralyzingly sleep to realize the reality of what is! The Republic of Kosova is a reality which is lost to Serbia forever, however their can still be a positive outcome of this reality for Serbia as well!
Yesterday's threat in the Balkans was a radical Serbian expansionist policy intent on ceasing territory which was inhabited by other ethnic majority's
(non Serbian) be it Slovenes in Slovenia, Albanians in Kosova, be it Croats in Croatia or Bosnians in Bosnia, all these non Serb people's with the help of NATO and the international community put Serbia in check!!! Todays biggest threat is a new form of demon like Islamic radicalization, one which is being deployed by ISIS, which has its sights on every country of Southern Europe, be it Serbia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosova, Greece, etc! In some of these country's this threat infiltrates much easier because some are more vulnerable because of many factors.
( economic, religious, political)
However, if the democratic forces of these Southern European country's, ones with a civilized mindset sit down and work & communicate with each other we can all be immune to this ISIS threat, and it can be easily defeated! Don't forget all of you Balkan brothers, even though we hold grudges & hatred toward each other at times, many times in our Balkan history we came together to fight against common threats, viciously!

Bosnian Serb

pre 8 godina

"Moderate Serb",
You're not a Serb, nor have any anthropology understanding of Serbs. There are Serbs who have went to Iraq as private security contractors willing to earn less than $30,000 per month for their service. Because of them and others that are willing to work less than what the US private security contractors ask for ($30,000) the pay has dropped drastically to the point that the original US contractors were no longer willing to risk going there for low pay. Serbia's army pays peanuts compared to private security contractors. Stop spreading false outlooks. A young person on the street can't join the professional Serb army immediately and be sent somewhere on a NATO mission. Stop impersonating Serbs.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

If he wants to join NaTo he should try to recruit young men to go to Afghanistan and fight, let him see how many will take up his offer.
(Yaroslav, 6 August 2015 16:36)

Yaro,
It shouldn't be a problem since there are hundreds of poor young Serb men signing up for ISIS. It does not take much, understandibly, to buy a Serb who is destitute, as most are. I am being truthful unlike the many nationalists on B92 that are unsuccessfully attempting to whitewash the dire economic situation in Serbia.

Watcher

pre 8 godina

@ Rocky -
I understand your response and I can appreciate from your side of the street. You find security in the protection of "bigger" & "stronger"...that's perfectly fine & OK...if that's what makes you sleep better at night.You're hope that by appeasing the beast, it will eat you last. That's the majority way of people's thinking..."collective security". THIS is what Vuk wants. Please youtube 'za evropskom stolu" and it's pretty self explainitory and eye opening! I don't have a problem with that...However, the Serbian Integrity of Pride just doesn't allow us to be footstools for others...Funny people, these Serbs...If you ASK them, they will give you all they have, If you TELL them, they will fight to the death not to give you ANYTHING. When Jugoslavia was maliously dismembered, ALL factions made a grab for what they felt belonged to them...ALL FACTIONS!!! Brutal?..YES..FROM ALL SIDES!!!Anyways Rocky, I understand your comment. You guys NEED Serbia to succumb, one way or another,...they tried bombing, now they're trying "nice"...I doubt it'll work. My prandeda was that way, my deda was that way, my dad is that way, I'm that way and I can already see it in my son...My thought is "Thank God" because otherwise we would be in these "unions" & "blocks"..sucking the tit they tell us too. Friends to all, slaves to None...I cannot see you disagreeing with that. All the best.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

"Moderate Serb", clearly you didn't see Who I referred to. Let them go fight for NATO in Afghanistan, hell all they need to do is go to France, join the foreign legion and they can rest assured they'll go if NATO doesn't wanna take random people of the streets. But I'm sure someone with a history of sending unarmed men to die, like Draskovic could find away to arrange them going to Afghanistan.

But, who exactly are these hundreds of Serbs in ISIS. Last count there were only 30 citizens of Serbia in it almost exclusively from the Muslim community (who across the Balkans, by the way, are less prone to joining ISIS than NATOs Muslim citizens). Comparably a similar number of Serbs have volunteered to fight as mercenaries in Donetsk.

Nah, I'd rather not join NATO and encourage Serbia's Muslim citizens to go join ISIS or convince a few more to join the Donetsk rebels out of Inat.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

I like how some view Serbia as being in the crosshairs of Russia if it does not being subservient nation willing to jump higher than the echelons of NATO demand.

The reality is we are surrounded on all sides by NATO states and with some exception every state surrounding us has some kind of US military presence; or there are states pursuing a NATO lie. Literally Russia can't get into Serbia militarily without violating the airspace of several NATO nations in a way that is more serious than just buzzing into Norway's airspace or the like.

There is really no way Russia to harm NATO through Serbia as the extremist Russophobes in Serbia and outside claim too. No, the real threat to Serbia are the extreme NATOphiles who'd gladly use army recruits as cannon fodder on NATO missions and several neighbouring states who will use their roles in NATO and the EU to undermine Serbia.

A bigger threat to Serbia is what the likes of Hungary, Croatia and Albania will do if Serbia pursues EU/NATO membership. Expect them to treat us the same way Greece treats Macedonia. With neighbours like these no one needs the USA or Russia destroying our soviergnity.

Better to declare ourselves neutral like Austria or Switzerland vis-a-vis NATO. And if we pursue EU membership don't provoke Germany into supporting the claims of Croatia and Hungary's right wing.

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

After Draskovic and his wife were beaten silly by Milosevic's thugs several years ago, he has finally caught on which side his bread is buttered. Good for Vuk, although, it is a bit late. Serbia's ONLY salvation is in NATO.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Yes ...Serbia .....Apply for NATO membership because we do need a place for target practice.

Serbia has wet dreams of 78 days and nights of magnificant aerial gift deposits all over.

jovica

pre 8 godina

The biggest threat in Serbia today is the current government, who are all extremists and live in the past inciting hate speech against neighbors. Nikolic, Vucic, Vulin, Dacic, are all ultra radicals who changed their party names and still operate with the same mindset poisoning the Serbian public with lies and ultra radical propaganda. This is just a tactic to find someone to blame (Croatia) and take the focus away from the terrible economic situation in Serbia.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Yes ...Serbia .....Apply for NATO membership because we do need a place for target practice.

Serbia has wet dreams of 78 days and nights of magnificant aerial gift deposits all over.

factman

pre 8 godina

Rocky makes a very good point concerning ISIS.

But one can stay neutral and still cooperate with NATO.

One need not be NATO to fight alongside NATO against a common enemy.

After all, NATO needs transit down Corridor 10 and all the East-west linkages currently being made.

Rocky is more interested in neutralizing Serbia as a military threat to Kosovo.

Don't join NATO if they need you. You get the same benefits without having the burden.

Vila sa Dedinja

pre 8 godina

To sam ja hteo jos 1989 i 1990 i 1991 dok nije rat poceo, ali avaj tada niko nije slusao. Ni Vuk. Nije imao herca da to kaze javno. Demokrate i Sule nesto pokusase ali chabar.
Sad nam niko i ne nudi vise da udjemo u NATO.

E moj Vuce kad izgubi one prve izbore bilo mi je jasno gde ce da nas put odvede. Zato sam danas 20 000 KM daleko.

Cikatriks

pre 8 godina

Oh, so Wolfie is still alive? Well, nice to know that. Good for him. Not that anyone seem to care what he thinks any more, but that's less important.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(factman, 7 August 2015 01:44)
Actually a good post, it is true that Serbia can enjoy most of the benefits just as it is doing now as a "partners in peace participant" Serbia does not need the membership at least now as there is no threat at present to Serbia by non NATO members or associates.
But I would also say that any thought of Serbia joining NATO should come only after much debate and thought on BOTH sides.

Reader

pre 8 godina

(Watcher, 6 August 2015 17:46)

Now now Watcher, you shouldn't speak for all Serbs. There are millions of them, I doubt you know them all and even if you knew them, it is statistically impossible for them to be all the same. Draskovic is a Serb and look what he is saying (the first exception to what you say). Nikolic is a Serb and his heart skips a beat any time something Putin related comes to his attention (the second exception). As far as NATO joining goes, Serbia shouldn't join NATO, the likelihood that Serbia would serve as Russia's fifth column inside NATO is still too high. Serbia needs to deserve it first.

dule

pre 8 godina

Never mind Serbia joining NATO, it is NATO that should join Serbian in order to jointly promote regional stability.

Draskovic knows he does not count for much any longer, but he is offering himself on the altar of NAT and EU so they could finance him and his party, so HE could make monies while selling out Serbia.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

I've got to say Vuk is 110% on point, finally Vuk a once Chetnik fanatic extremist has awoken from a deep & paralyzingly sleep to realize the reality of what is! The Republic of Kosova is a reality which is lost to Serbia forever, however their can still be a positive outcome of this reality for Serbia as well!
Yesterday's threat in the Balkans was a radical Serbian expansionist policy intent on ceasing territory which was inhabited by other ethnic majority's
(non Serbian) be it Slovenes in Slovenia, Albanians in Kosova, be it Croats in Croatia or Bosnians in Bosnia, all these non Serb people's with the help of NATO and the international community put Serbia in check!!! Todays biggest threat is a new form of demon like Islamic radicalization, one which is being deployed by ISIS, which has its sights on every country of Southern Europe, be it Serbia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Kosova, Greece, etc! In some of these country's this threat infiltrates much easier because some are more vulnerable because of many factors.
( economic, religious, political)
However, if the democratic forces of these Southern European country's, ones with a civilized mindset sit down and work & communicate with each other we can all be immune to this ISIS threat, and it can be easily defeated! Don't forget all of you Balkan brothers, even though we hold grudges & hatred toward each other at times, many times in our Balkan history we came together to fight against common threats, viciously!

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

If he wants to join NaTo he should try to recruit young men to go to Afghanistan and fight, let him see how many will take up his offer.
(Yaroslav, 6 August 2015 16:36)

Yaro,
It shouldn't be a problem since there are hundreds of poor young Serb men signing up for ISIS. It does not take much, understandibly, to buy a Serb who is destitute, as most are. I am being truthful unlike the many nationalists on B92 that are unsuccessfully attempting to whitewash the dire economic situation in Serbia.

The Driver

pre 8 godina

He is right about one thing; the EU & NATO are two heads of the same beast and come as a package. The question now is does Serbia need either? NATO is leading the world into war with Russia & China, does Serbia need to join in that war? The EU is falling apart; just look at your neighbors Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, and Romania how are they fairing in the EU? Not very well; Greece is barely a state with no control at all over their economy, Bulgaria was forced to cancel South Stream which would have been extremely beneficial for them, again no control & no sovereignty. Croatia lives off of EU loans and tourism and their standard of living is going south. Is this what Serbia needs after all the devastation that NATO & the EU inflicted upon it?

Moderate Serb

pre 8 godina

After Draskovic and his wife were beaten silly by Milosevic's thugs several years ago, he has finally caught on which side his bread is buttered. Good for Vuk, although, it is a bit late. Serbia's ONLY salvation is in NATO.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Yes ...Serbia .....Apply for NATO membership because we do need a place for target practice.

Serbia has wet dreams of 78 days and nights of magnificant aerial gift deposits all over.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

"Moderate Serb", clearly you didn't see Who I referred to. Let them go fight for NATO in Afghanistan, hell all they need to do is go to France, join the foreign legion and they can rest assured they'll go if NATO doesn't wanna take random people of the streets. But I'm sure someone with a history of sending unarmed men to die, like Draskovic could find away to arrange them going to Afghanistan.

But, who exactly are these hundreds of Serbs in ISIS. Last count there were only 30 citizens of Serbia in it almost exclusively from the Muslim community (who across the Balkans, by the way, are less prone to joining ISIS than NATOs Muslim citizens). Comparably a similar number of Serbs have volunteered to fight as mercenaries in Donetsk.

Nah, I'd rather not join NATO and encourage Serbia's Muslim citizens to go join ISIS or convince a few more to join the Donetsk rebels out of Inat.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

I like how some view Serbia as being in the crosshairs of Russia if it does not being subservient nation willing to jump higher than the echelons of NATO demand.

The reality is we are surrounded on all sides by NATO states and with some exception every state surrounding us has some kind of US military presence; or there are states pursuing a NATO lie. Literally Russia can't get into Serbia militarily without violating the airspace of several NATO nations in a way that is more serious than just buzzing into Norway's airspace or the like.

There is really no way Russia to harm NATO through Serbia as the extremist Russophobes in Serbia and outside claim too. No, the real threat to Serbia are the extreme NATOphiles who'd gladly use army recruits as cannon fodder on NATO missions and several neighbouring states who will use their roles in NATO and the EU to undermine Serbia.

A bigger threat to Serbia is what the likes of Hungary, Croatia and Albania will do if Serbia pursues EU/NATO membership. Expect them to treat us the same way Greece treats Macedonia. With neighbours like these no one needs the USA or Russia destroying our soviergnity.

Better to declare ourselves neutral like Austria or Switzerland vis-a-vis NATO. And if we pursue EU membership don't provoke Germany into supporting the claims of Croatia and Hungary's right wing.

Azir

pre 8 godina

Yes ...Serbia .....Apply for NATO membership because we do need a place for target practice.

Serbia has wet dreams of 78 days and nights of magnificant aerial gift deposits all over.

Who cares

pre 8 godina

There is a reason why Draskovic is no longer in politics.
He is a corrupt, self-serving hypocrite who has been clearly inconsistent with his senile and schizophrenic opinions.
Draskovic has clearly been effected by age, and he should no longer be given any credibility in the Serbian media

Vila sa Dedinja

pre 8 godina

To sam ja hteo jos 1989 i 1990 i 1991 dok nije rat poceo, ali avaj tada niko nije slusao. Ni Vuk. Nije imao herca da to kaze javno. Demokrate i Sule nesto pokusase ali chabar.
Sad nam niko i ne nudi vise da udjemo u NATO.

E moj Vuce kad izgubi one prve izbore bilo mi je jasno gde ce da nas put odvede. Zato sam danas 20 000 KM daleko.

Bosnian Serb

pre 8 godina

"Moderate Serb",
You're not a Serb, nor have any anthropology understanding of Serbs. There are Serbs who have went to Iraq as private security contractors willing to earn less than $30,000 per month for their service. Because of them and others that are willing to work less than what the US private security contractors ask for ($30,000) the pay has dropped drastically to the point that the original US contractors were no longer willing to risk going there for low pay. Serbia's army pays peanuts compared to private security contractors. Stop spreading false outlooks. A young person on the street can't join the professional Serb army immediately and be sent somewhere on a NATO mission. Stop impersonating Serbs.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

Vuk Draskovic was the first to recruit paramilitaries, pre-dating Arkan and Seselj, and sent a bunch of young men to die poorly Armed. No, Draskovic deserves to rot in a prison cell with his best man ("kum") Seselj.

When he was a force politically he wasn't pro-NATO and he is irrelevant now. If not for the fact that Serbia's political coalition are desperate to collective every little vote he'd long be retired.

Alawneh

pre 8 godina

Wow, yes. Lets basically erase any pride we have, join a organisation that illegally bombed the monkeys out of us 16 years ago, just so we can put out our hands and receive some money.

This guy is having a laugh.

Watcher

pre 8 godina

@ Rocky -
I understand your response and I can appreciate from your side of the street. You find security in the protection of "bigger" & "stronger"...that's perfectly fine & OK...if that's what makes you sleep better at night.You're hope that by appeasing the beast, it will eat you last. That's the majority way of people's thinking..."collective security". THIS is what Vuk wants. Please youtube 'za evropskom stolu" and it's pretty self explainitory and eye opening! I don't have a problem with that...However, the Serbian Integrity of Pride just doesn't allow us to be footstools for others...Funny people, these Serbs...If you ASK them, they will give you all they have, If you TELL them, they will fight to the death not to give you ANYTHING. When Jugoslavia was maliously dismembered, ALL factions made a grab for what they felt belonged to them...ALL FACTIONS!!! Brutal?..YES..FROM ALL SIDES!!!Anyways Rocky, I understand your comment. You guys NEED Serbia to succumb, one way or another,...they tried bombing, now they're trying "nice"...I doubt it'll work. My prandeda was that way, my deda was that way, my dad is that way, I'm that way and I can already see it in my son...My thought is "Thank God" because otherwise we would be in these "unions" & "blocks"..sucking the tit they tell us too. Friends to all, slaves to None...I cannot see you disagreeing with that. All the best.

factman

pre 8 godina

Rocky makes a very good point concerning ISIS.

But one can stay neutral and still cooperate with NATO.

One need not be NATO to fight alongside NATO against a common enemy.

After all, NATO needs transit down Corridor 10 and all the East-west linkages currently being made.

Rocky is more interested in neutralizing Serbia as a military threat to Kosovo.

Don't join NATO if they need you. You get the same benefits without having the burden.

jovica

pre 8 godina

The biggest threat in Serbia today is the current government, who are all extremists and live in the past inciting hate speech against neighbors. Nikolic, Vucic, Vulin, Dacic, are all ultra radicals who changed their party names and still operate with the same mindset poisoning the Serbian public with lies and ultra radical propaganda. This is just a tactic to find someone to blame (Croatia) and take the focus away from the terrible economic situation in Serbia.

Yaroslav

pre 8 godina

If he wants to join NaTo he should try to recruit young men to go to Afghanistan and fight, let him see how many will take up his offer.

Reader

pre 8 godina

(Watcher, 6 August 2015 17:46)

Now now Watcher, you shouldn't speak for all Serbs. There are millions of them, I doubt you know them all and even if you knew them, it is statistically impossible for them to be all the same. Draskovic is a Serb and look what he is saying (the first exception to what you say). Nikolic is a Serb and his heart skips a beat any time something Putin related comes to his attention (the second exception). As far as NATO joining goes, Serbia shouldn't join NATO, the likelihood that Serbia would serve as Russia's fifth column inside NATO is still too high. Serbia needs to deserve it first.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(factman, 7 August 2015 01:44)
Actually a good post, it is true that Serbia can enjoy most of the benefits just as it is doing now as a "partners in peace participant" Serbia does not need the membership at least now as there is no threat at present to Serbia by non NATO members or associates.
But I would also say that any thought of Serbia joining NATO should come only after much debate and thought on BOTH sides.

Cikatriks

pre 8 godina

Oh, so Wolfie is still alive? Well, nice to know that. Good for him. Not that anyone seem to care what he thinks any more, but that's less important.

dule

pre 8 godina

Never mind Serbia joining NATO, it is NATO that should join Serbian in order to jointly promote regional stability.

Draskovic knows he does not count for much any longer, but he is offering himself on the altar of NAT and EU so they could finance him and his party, so HE could make monies while selling out Serbia.