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Monday, 20.04.2015.

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Thaci informed he would be arrested in Belgrade

Serbian authorities have "officially informed the Kosovo organs" that Kosovo Deputy PM Hashim Thaci will be arrested <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2015&mm=04&dd=20&nav_id=93848" class="text-link" target= "_blank">if he travels to Belgrade</a> on April 24.

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icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo has no opportunity...that is what we're seeing to day. Look at the YouTube videos..those are Albanian speaking youth, not Serbian! Listen to what they're are saying!!! It's not Serbian media , it's YOUR people talking!
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

OK, than what?! Are they saying that they want Serbia to save them?! And, even if they were, Serbia can't even properly feed its own children, let alone being able to feed Kosovo. So, I'm not sure again what's the point that you're trying to make. Again, you sound so confused :)
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Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.
(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51)

Well, if that's how you describe the current state of affairs and you are happy with it, that's great. Kosovars are happy too to let you say that "Kosovo remains Serbian property" while they control it and make their own rules & regulations with no Serbian interference in their business. You are more than welcome to label it as "More than autonomy, less than Independence." - not many people in Kosovo would care on how you label it.

So, you are happy with being free to label the situation of Kosovo as you wish, while Kosovars are happy to live outside of Serbia's control, everybody is happy with this arrangement and so problem solved. Not sure what your concerns are!

icj1

pre 9 godina

Now whether you do or not, I don't know, but I can tell you (being a Serb and understanding the Serbian mentality) that they will wait forever, if neceesary,but they will come for their land.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Sorry mate, but you sound very confused... Which parcel(s) of land/property in Kosovo is/are in dispute? For example, land parcel 6264 in Pristina is owned by a certain B.D. Do you know any other person who is claiming that parcel of land as their property? If not, then I'm not sure what you are talking about!!!
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Now my point is this (not sure how many times I have to explain it)Somewhere down the line , Serbian & Albanian people will be cutting each others throats AGAIN because people elected to represent each side CANNOT come to an AGREEMENT to avoid this.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

You can explain that a thousand times, but not sure many people will understand. Albanians have no intention to start cutting the throats of anybody? And, I assume, normal Serbs don't either. So, not sure who is going to cut whose throat!!!!
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Now Serbia, being a more developed and strategic country, will work it's way out of this quagmire.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Great! I hope it does. It's good for all other countries bordering Serbia not to have a failed country at their borders.

a New day

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44
I am quite positive that the people who would be making this more than autonomy deal do not agree with you.
Now the million dollar question.
If Kosovo or Pristina has total autonomy or "more" than autonomy, how does that benefit Serbs saying that Kosovo is a part of Serbia, how does that bring their "Jerusalem" into perspective. As the Albanians primarily control it.
But I think the whole thought process is once both integrate into the EU then it will not be a huge problem. At least that is the hopes. Do I believe the Serbs are going to wait indefinitely to retake Kosovo, not really. It is a changing global world, Kosovo is not going to mean anything to the Serbs of the 2100's they will be globalized. If you have any left. As the borders open and jobs become international, things will change.
Since you understand the mentality of Serbs and know they are going to come back to take "their" land, how can you be so sure they are not going to take the "autonomous" land away from the Albanians.
So far what I have gathered from you speech is that you know that ALL Serbs are Milosevic's just waiting for an opportunity.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.
(royals, 21 April 2015 23:24)

Oh, no need to wait mate - I'm sure you will win any quiz about the history of some buldings. Great job! Nobody is questioning that you were an excellent student in your history class.

Now back to the topic... What does a quiz about the history of buildings has anything to do with "Thaci informed he would be arrested in Belgrade"?!

royals

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.

j

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.
(royals, 21 April 2015 23:24)

Bardhyli, Cleitus, Bato

Ulpiana, Theranda

Also better a goat herder than a sympathizer of Serb war criminals and terrorists.

Reader

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Watcher, it is not your land. PERIOD. It is the land of the people who live in it. You are free to wait and come over 500 years from now. You will hopefully find a better army than the last time on the ground. Did you forget that it was Serbia that broke all the deals in what was known as Yugoslavia? There was a deal where Kosovo would be autonomous, and Serbia broke it in 1989. There is no guarantee whatsoever that any deals that you are advocating now won't be broken again in the future. Even the Brussels deals, if Serbia had the power it would not even sign them. Serbia has shown time and again that it understands only force.

About the so called "Serbian mentality", I wish you the best of luck with that, Serbs are the first victims of that mentality.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ A new day, Demi & J,

1)yes, 2) yes & 3) yes to your 3 questions, a new day!
Demi, I'm not a wolf looking to woo sheep out. You can drop that idea right off the bat.
What amazes me is the Albanian mentality that you think the Serbs are just going to go away, to give up, to just accept the fact that 15% of their land will be cut off, never mind that it's their version of "Jerusalim"...Do you REALLY believe that they will just give it up?
Now whether you do or not, I don't know, but I can tell you (being a Serb and understanding the Serbian mentality) that they will wait forever, if neceesary,but they will come for their land. Now my point is this (not sure how many times I have to explain it)Somewhere down the line , Serbian & Albanian people will be cutting each others throats AGAIN because people elected to represent each side CANNOT come to an AGREEMENT to avoid this. Our children have nothing, but uncertain times to look forward in their future. Now Serbia, being a more developed and strategic country, will work it's way out of this quagmire. Kosovo has no opportunity...that is what we're seeing to day. Look at the YouTube videos..those are Albanian speaking youth, not Serbian! Listen to what they're are saying!!! It's not Serbian media , it's YOUR people talking!
Yes, I take pride in being a Serb, but I have NO pride in what's happening thruout that region. It's all about the Elites making money and doing business at the people's expense.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

What an embarrassment for the Serbian ruling elite. It's fine and dandy to shake hands and pose for the cameras with Thaqi in Brussels but it's absolutely unacceptable for him to go to Belgrade?

Thaqi came out a winner. He extended an olive branch but the Serbs wouldn't have it.

If the Serbs are that dumb then they really deserve their government.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

All this hullabaloo is for internal consumption only. It is basically the same technique Rama uses in Albania, pick on local sentiment to seem 'patriotic'. No Serb official objects to meeting a man on whom an arrest warrant exists from Serbia, their apparent principles don't extend that far, yet when it comes to having to look 'Serbian' to the Serb population, they very obviously play that card well. Give it 1 month and Dacic and Thaci will be smiling for the cameras again, the arrest warrant forgotten

Demi

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51

You sound like an wolf trying to fool some barricaded sheep's to come out of their barricade. But you should know by now that Albanians are no stupid sheep's. We know serbs more than they know their self.

Why cant we talk and solve problems like two different independent countrys and live in peace side by side ? I mean serbs dont want anything to do with Albanians and Albanians dont want anything to do with serbs. It seems like the right choice to let them be seperated.. Maybe then they could learn to respect each other on equal basis and live in peace.


Or is because Serbs are not interested in peace but only want the wealthy land of Kosova? hmm ?..

a New day

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51
Such a generous Serb you are! Do you really think you are offering some sort of agreement where everyone wins?
In this fantasy of "more than autonomy" Answer these questions:
1. Would it mean that Kosovo could participate in sport organizations under their own name and flag?
2. Could they negotiate and sign deals with foreign governments without Serbian interference or approval?
3. Would they be allowed their own security forces to protect themselves from the day when Serbia once again decides to force them out? The attitude today is the same as during Milosevic as Serbs including yourself view it as SERBIAN land. That means more than words, it means that Serbs allow Albanians to live there. This would be up for revocation.
For an agreement such as yours the Albanians would give up:
The recognitions they have received, the possibility of being an equal partner in organizations including the EU. An identity that is their own. The feeling that the loss of their loved ones was not in vain.
The Serbs would lose???
They would gain the 100+ countries reassessment that Kosovo is within Serbian borders. They would gain the ability to forever have a collar on the Albanians that they could use to control them. It would much be like putting dogs in a fenced yard and allow them to roam freely within that compound. But they would never ever be able to ultimately do anything without the consent of their master.

Kos-Can

pre 9 godina

Please arrest him, 70% of Albanians in Kosova will be thankful, he hasn't been involved in any battles during 1998-1999. He's a professional liar. He was self declared leader of KLA. Belgrade made a big mistake by telling him he will be arrested. Serbia should've kept it secret that arrest warrant. He and a lot of criminals in Prishtina have brought the people to their knees. Once again I would ask the authorities in Belgrade to tell him that it is OK for him to go to Belgrade and then you do your thing and put him not 10 years but 100 years in prison.

j

pre 9 godina

Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.
(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51)

Sorry buddy. It doesn't work that way. Only a fool would agree willfully to a status of inequality just so we can soothe the Serbian ego or pride. Its nobody's fault that Serbs get so easily but.thurt, humiliated, provoked over just about anything. That is an issue that the collective psyche of your nation needs to deal with. We should not give up our freedom over some abstraction of perceived humiliation of Serb armchair patriots or warpigs residing in Belgrade. Others do not have to adjust their lives because of some Serb complexion. Equal means equal, and that means Kosova a state, separate, and independent; just like Serbia. The moment you include words such as less than, you have raped equality. Freedom tastes the same for a Kosova Albanian just like it does for a Serb. If less than autonomy and greater than independence is so great according to you, then you should suggest for Serbia to become an autonomous region under Kosova. We promise we won't intrude in your affairs. You also avoid humiliation that way.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Commenting on this issue on Monday, Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic said the Serbian authorities "will behave in line with the law" when it comes to the guilty verdict passed against Thac
Really !!??? if you look it like that all the politician who govern Serbia should be arrested too if they enter Kosovo because think about all of them used to be a part of the same government accused for crimes in Kosovo does that ring the bell even is so easy you can get all of them in you tube channel regarding Yugoslavian war 90-99 who really was employed and cheering out at that time or standing close to Milosevic.... and again is not like I LIKE thaci or any Balkan leader but it is just a very bad move from the serbians side just my that >>>cheers

Bob

pre 9 godina

It irrespondible to tell someone they will be arrested.

Proper policing would require silence before the pounce.

Why give the criminals a chance to run away?

Avni

pre 9 godina

This is a joke. If you want to arrest somebody you don't "inform" them ahead. This is just a game for domestic politics. Few weeks ago Ivica Dacic came to Prishtina and drank coffee with Thaci. After this I don't know how they think they can come to republic of Kosovo again. People might start protesting, not because they care for Thaci but will use that as an excuse to show Serbs how they feel.

straight to jail

pre 9 godina

roberto, for years now you pride yourself as a moral voice.

the only nazi viewpoint here is your overbearing preaching.

if you think serbs are nazi's you need to read a few history books... and go talk to the community of european nations who think otherwise.

you're comments are generally boring, shrill, and everything you say is wrong.... both politically and historically.

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

Thaci committed crimes in Serbia, is responsible of genocide against Serbs, drug trafficking, human organs trafficking and he's a mafia leader.
I know that those are "awards" and "medals" for lawless albanians, but those are crimes. Thaci must spend the rest of his life in jail.

roberto

pre 9 godina

As I've said, and I am not the only one, there has been no real de-nazification in Serbia - the Milosevic regime continues in ideology and personnel. It would be like post-war Germany pursuing Nazi-era indictments,which they occasionally did (i am not speaking of the Stalinist east)and much to their later embarrassment. Serbia is still led by a bunch of fascists, most of whom were knee deep involved in Milosevic-era policies, and atrocities.

At any rate, now all of Serbia's so called leaders know what awaits them when they try to enter the sovereign country of Kosova.

I have an increasing admiration for Thaci in how he is dealing with the Belgrade regime. At least he knows how to play their game.

It is true that Kosova faces more than its share of problems and obstacles - but at least in part this is a result of Serbia's continuing fascist policies.

The people of the Balkans continue to suffer, yet serbia's "media" continues to promote the same old crap. Bravo...

BTW, not everyone inside Serbia goes along with this idiocy - I can testify to that. The ones we usually see on these pages are mainly very hard-core diaspora.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Anyway Vucic and Dacic don't go to pristina, why should Thaci go to belgrade?!
(Adam, 20 April 2015 15:47)

Dacic was in Pristina a few weeks ago. Vucic and many more Serb politicians, including gore-lovers like the orthodox fundamentalist Serb priests go to Gracanica and other places very often.

Serbian politicians cannot say that Serbia is emancipated from the hole it fell in the 90's but still consider valid the actions of that time. Good luck.

ivan

pre 9 godina

@Aleks, I totally agree with your interpretation. To quote Kostunica, no one was required to amputate a fifth of their country for a defunct, bankrupt, and a soon-to-be a non-existent EU membership. It's to punish Serbia for its alliance and warmth towards Russia. They used Milosevic as a scape goat and told him to clean-up Kosovo then stabbed him in the back, much like Saddham Hussein. These are the doings of the US and Israel. Wipe out these two countries and you have world peace.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ Demi / Teodor Muzaka -
I understand what you're saying and I can appreciate your opinion.
However, if every country were to pay for their "mistakes" the way Serbia is paying with border change, then what in the world would any country look like? What country has not had "dark" moments? What should be the price for the pogrom the Albanians had several years ago? Some land, perhaps? Maybe a chunk here or there? What I'm saying is everyone's violation against them is the "worst" ever...your's is Milosevic, Serbia's is Nato bombing, Iran's is the sanctions, Ukraine's is Russia, etc...my point is this: Where does it end?
I don't see Serbia ever giving up 15% of their land & I don't see Albanians retractiong their Independence. I appreciate what both of you are feeling, but I can only see one solution that does NOT involve the next generation of Serbs & Albanians at each others throats! I'm sorry, I just dont. I wish I could make BOTH happy, but there is no way.
Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.

j

pre 9 godina

It looks like in the near future there will be a few Serb officials indicted for terrorism by the courts in Prishtina. It will be smaller fishes to start with; Vulin types. Then the types of Dacic and Vucic. Thaci will then point out to the court verdict and inform them they will be arrested. Serbia has more to lose when Serb politicians are not allowed in Kosova then the other way around. Serbs as always, acting on emotions rather than logic. This was a test, the occasion where Serbia could show the world that it had separated from its dark past. Thaci could have been allowed in and ignored by everyone, media as well. Instead you decide based on emotions and now you have the cavemen image.

Who's next to arrest from those kangaroo courts, Albright, Clinton, or Blair? Oh but I digress not only you can't arrest Blair, the Serbian state is using its budget money to pay him. This comedy has no end in sight.

Bahri

pre 9 godina

This is test for Serbia that shows you how much Serbia wants peace With Neighbors and others on the Regions, Serbia and Serbian Government are trouble makers criminals think all 4 Wars fought in Balkan start it from Serbs, EU should never invite Serbia to join EU Union, will be Big mistake for EU. Still allots of Criminals live in Serbia.

Aleks

pre 9 godina

@ Ivan, you sure make a good point. Somehow I have a feeling that there is more to this behind the scenes. Suddenly, out of no where, this issue of Thaci wanting to come to Belgrade has come up. Who is pushing this and why? It's not like Belgrade extended this invitation. This is certain members of the EU and the US creating this behind the scenes. Serbia has come out now and taken a stand. I guarantee you they are under pressure to let Thaci come and visit, because they want to use that against Serbia as a way to suggest they have recognized Kosovo.

Serbia has taken the right stand here and I hope they stick to their guns. I want nothing but the best for Serbia, and of course I would love to see a European Serbia, but not like this. They are using the EU as a means to harm Serbia and even humiliate the politicians. No other country was asked for anything like this at all. I guarantee if Seselj went to Kosovo right now, he would be arrested. Thaci is a known thug and criminal, both against Serbs and Albanians. He has murdered both. He deserves to be arrested if he goes to Belgrade.

Demi

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 15:51)

Yes talk is good. But it should be on equal bases. Albanians in Kosova dosen't consider Serbia as their country and there is no talk in the world that can change that. You (Serbia) only wants to talk on no equal bases and cannot consider Kosova to be independent. What is there to talk about when you talk with force ? You want to force Albanians to accept Serbia as their country.. That is somthing that will never happend. Do you still want to talk ?

In 1998-99 you diden't want to talk.

Navi

pre 9 godina

instead he should be preparing the genocide law suit against Serbia
(Eric, 20 April 2015 14:53)

Yes he should have full opportunity to embarrass himself in front of the ICJ, not just in Belgrade.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

.... Next generations of Serbs & Albanians BOTH deserve better than what is happening now...

@Watcher,
99% of Serbs have nazi mentality towards Albanians.They consider them as subhumans.
I was happy Albania didn't score the goal in Belgrade otherwise you will have 11 dead bodies in the field.
With whom you suggest Albanians to talk?
With 1% which have no power in Serbia?
Look at comments here in B92 by Serbs such as Ari Gold, Peggy &co who make up 99% of Serbian population.
If you can find reason on them then Good Luck!

Adam

pre 9 godina

It'll be exciting to see what happens if he actually does go, but i'm sure he doesn't have the guts for it...... Anyway Vucic and Dacic don't go to pristina, why should Thaci go to belgrade?!

ivan

pre 9 godina

I recall Dacic saying that every time they satisfy one condition something else just pops up. Well folks, this is not a coincidence rather, this is all staged to be used eventually against the Serbs, much like Seselj. Serbia will never enter the EU, to quote Dacic once again, even if they were to recognize Kosovo. This is a geopolitical issue, the west wants to disintegrate Serbia. The Serb politicians must drop this EU crap and openly embrace Russia, otherwise, we will be held hostage and blackmailed to eternity.

XD

pre 9 godina

I hope he goes to Belgrade and the authorities there arrest him. It means there is one less theif in Prishtina. I hope Thaqi takes with him a couple of his bodies (crooks) and they can be arrested too...all that it means for the people of Kosovo is there are less theifs amongst their midst. The so called liberators have brought Kosovo on their knees and to a point where every living Kosovar would abandon their homeland given the oppurtunity. Not even Milosevic was able to contemplate such program in his wildest dreams. So feel free to arrest the thief and keep him there so hopefully the younger generation will have a chance to prosper and finally enjoy the fruits of independence.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ XD
I understand what you're saying and I agree. What we don't agree is the future of Kosovo. The younger generation, free from ties of it's previous generation, should sit together with Beograd and negotiate a win-win situation for ALL involved, without outside meddlers who are just interested in keeping thing unstable for personal interests. I would like to agree with you and "fruits of independence" should be the key to happiness, but if i did, we would BOTH be wrong. I understand the emotional stances on BOTH sides of the fence, but we all know that when emotions get involved, reason usually walks out. Next generations of Serbs & Albanians BOTH deserve better than what is happening now. We all know, sooner or later, the borders of Kosovo will change along with the dynamics of everchanging world politics. This is neither the Albanians or the Serbs fault...we just keep getting sucked into thinking our "friends" will always be there for us when needed. Both the Russians & the Americans always show their true colors. When we are of no more use...Bye Bye! Time for sane, fair and honorable represenatives of our peoples to step up and talk to EACH OTHER, NOT 3rd PARTIES!

ivan

pre 9 godina

I recall Dacic saying that every time they satisfy one condition something else just pops up. Well folks, this is not a coincidence rather, this is all staged to be used eventually against the Serbs, much like Seselj. Serbia will never enter the EU, to quote Dacic once again, even if they were to recognize Kosovo. This is a geopolitical issue, the west wants to disintegrate Serbia. The Serb politicians must drop this EU crap and openly embrace Russia, otherwise, we will be held hostage and blackmailed to eternity.

Navi

pre 9 godina

instead he should be preparing the genocide law suit against Serbia
(Eric, 20 April 2015 14:53)

Yes he should have full opportunity to embarrass himself in front of the ICJ, not just in Belgrade.

Aleks

pre 9 godina

@ Ivan, you sure make a good point. Somehow I have a feeling that there is more to this behind the scenes. Suddenly, out of no where, this issue of Thaci wanting to come to Belgrade has come up. Who is pushing this and why? It's not like Belgrade extended this invitation. This is certain members of the EU and the US creating this behind the scenes. Serbia has come out now and taken a stand. I guarantee you they are under pressure to let Thaci come and visit, because they want to use that against Serbia as a way to suggest they have recognized Kosovo.

Serbia has taken the right stand here and I hope they stick to their guns. I want nothing but the best for Serbia, and of course I would love to see a European Serbia, but not like this. They are using the EU as a means to harm Serbia and even humiliate the politicians. No other country was asked for anything like this at all. I guarantee if Seselj went to Kosovo right now, he would be arrested. Thaci is a known thug and criminal, both against Serbs and Albanians. He has murdered both. He deserves to be arrested if he goes to Belgrade.

XD

pre 9 godina

I hope he goes to Belgrade and the authorities there arrest him. It means there is one less theif in Prishtina. I hope Thaqi takes with him a couple of his bodies (crooks) and they can be arrested too...all that it means for the people of Kosovo is there are less theifs amongst their midst. The so called liberators have brought Kosovo on their knees and to a point where every living Kosovar would abandon their homeland given the oppurtunity. Not even Milosevic was able to contemplate such program in his wildest dreams. So feel free to arrest the thief and keep him there so hopefully the younger generation will have a chance to prosper and finally enjoy the fruits of independence.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

.... Next generations of Serbs & Albanians BOTH deserve better than what is happening now...

@Watcher,
99% of Serbs have nazi mentality towards Albanians.They consider them as subhumans.
I was happy Albania didn't score the goal in Belgrade otherwise you will have 11 dead bodies in the field.
With whom you suggest Albanians to talk?
With 1% which have no power in Serbia?
Look at comments here in B92 by Serbs such as Ari Gold, Peggy &co who make up 99% of Serbian population.
If you can find reason on them then Good Luck!

Bahri

pre 9 godina

This is test for Serbia that shows you how much Serbia wants peace With Neighbors and others on the Regions, Serbia and Serbian Government are trouble makers criminals think all 4 Wars fought in Balkan start it from Serbs, EU should never invite Serbia to join EU Union, will be Big mistake for EU. Still allots of Criminals live in Serbia.

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

Thaci committed crimes in Serbia, is responsible of genocide against Serbs, drug trafficking, human organs trafficking and he's a mafia leader.
I know that those are "awards" and "medals" for lawless albanians, but those are crimes. Thaci must spend the rest of his life in jail.

Adam

pre 9 godina

It'll be exciting to see what happens if he actually does go, but i'm sure he doesn't have the guts for it...... Anyway Vucic and Dacic don't go to pristina, why should Thaci go to belgrade?!

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ XD
I understand what you're saying and I agree. What we don't agree is the future of Kosovo. The younger generation, free from ties of it's previous generation, should sit together with Beograd and negotiate a win-win situation for ALL involved, without outside meddlers who are just interested in keeping thing unstable for personal interests. I would like to agree with you and "fruits of independence" should be the key to happiness, but if i did, we would BOTH be wrong. I understand the emotional stances on BOTH sides of the fence, but we all know that when emotions get involved, reason usually walks out. Next generations of Serbs & Albanians BOTH deserve better than what is happening now. We all know, sooner or later, the borders of Kosovo will change along with the dynamics of everchanging world politics. This is neither the Albanians or the Serbs fault...we just keep getting sucked into thinking our "friends" will always be there for us when needed. Both the Russians & the Americans always show their true colors. When we are of no more use...Bye Bye! Time for sane, fair and honorable represenatives of our peoples to step up and talk to EACH OTHER, NOT 3rd PARTIES!

Demi

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 15:51)

Yes talk is good. But it should be on equal bases. Albanians in Kosova dosen't consider Serbia as their country and there is no talk in the world that can change that. You (Serbia) only wants to talk on no equal bases and cannot consider Kosova to be independent. What is there to talk about when you talk with force ? You want to force Albanians to accept Serbia as their country.. That is somthing that will never happend. Do you still want to talk ?

In 1998-99 you diden't want to talk.

Kos-Can

pre 9 godina

Please arrest him, 70% of Albanians in Kosova will be thankful, he hasn't been involved in any battles during 1998-1999. He's a professional liar. He was self declared leader of KLA. Belgrade made a big mistake by telling him he will be arrested. Serbia should've kept it secret that arrest warrant. He and a lot of criminals in Prishtina have brought the people to their knees. Once again I would ask the authorities in Belgrade to tell him that it is OK for him to go to Belgrade and then you do your thing and put him not 10 years but 100 years in prison.

roberto

pre 9 godina

As I've said, and I am not the only one, there has been no real de-nazification in Serbia - the Milosevic regime continues in ideology and personnel. It would be like post-war Germany pursuing Nazi-era indictments,which they occasionally did (i am not speaking of the Stalinist east)and much to their later embarrassment. Serbia is still led by a bunch of fascists, most of whom were knee deep involved in Milosevic-era policies, and atrocities.

At any rate, now all of Serbia's so called leaders know what awaits them when they try to enter the sovereign country of Kosova.

I have an increasing admiration for Thaci in how he is dealing with the Belgrade regime. At least he knows how to play their game.

It is true that Kosova faces more than its share of problems and obstacles - but at least in part this is a result of Serbia's continuing fascist policies.

The people of the Balkans continue to suffer, yet serbia's "media" continues to promote the same old crap. Bravo...

BTW, not everyone inside Serbia goes along with this idiocy - I can testify to that. The ones we usually see on these pages are mainly very hard-core diaspora.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

All this hullabaloo is for internal consumption only. It is basically the same technique Rama uses in Albania, pick on local sentiment to seem 'patriotic'. No Serb official objects to meeting a man on whom an arrest warrant exists from Serbia, their apparent principles don't extend that far, yet when it comes to having to look 'Serbian' to the Serb population, they very obviously play that card well. Give it 1 month and Dacic and Thaci will be smiling for the cameras again, the arrest warrant forgotten

j

pre 9 godina

It looks like in the near future there will be a few Serb officials indicted for terrorism by the courts in Prishtina. It will be smaller fishes to start with; Vulin types. Then the types of Dacic and Vucic. Thaci will then point out to the court verdict and inform them they will be arrested. Serbia has more to lose when Serb politicians are not allowed in Kosova then the other way around. Serbs as always, acting on emotions rather than logic. This was a test, the occasion where Serbia could show the world that it had separated from its dark past. Thaci could have been allowed in and ignored by everyone, media as well. Instead you decide based on emotions and now you have the cavemen image.

Who's next to arrest from those kangaroo courts, Albright, Clinton, or Blair? Oh but I digress not only you can't arrest Blair, the Serbian state is using its budget money to pay him. This comedy has no end in sight.

j

pre 9 godina

Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.
(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51)

Sorry buddy. It doesn't work that way. Only a fool would agree willfully to a status of inequality just so we can soothe the Serbian ego or pride. Its nobody's fault that Serbs get so easily but.thurt, humiliated, provoked over just about anything. That is an issue that the collective psyche of your nation needs to deal with. We should not give up our freedom over some abstraction of perceived humiliation of Serb armchair patriots or warpigs residing in Belgrade. Others do not have to adjust their lives because of some Serb complexion. Equal means equal, and that means Kosova a state, separate, and independent; just like Serbia. The moment you include words such as less than, you have raped equality. Freedom tastes the same for a Kosova Albanian just like it does for a Serb. If less than autonomy and greater than independence is so great according to you, then you should suggest for Serbia to become an autonomous region under Kosova. We promise we won't intrude in your affairs. You also avoid humiliation that way.

Demi

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51

You sound like an wolf trying to fool some barricaded sheep's to come out of their barricade. But you should know by now that Albanians are no stupid sheep's. We know serbs more than they know their self.

Why cant we talk and solve problems like two different independent countrys and live in peace side by side ? I mean serbs dont want anything to do with Albanians and Albanians dont want anything to do with serbs. It seems like the right choice to let them be seperated.. Maybe then they could learn to respect each other on equal basis and live in peace.


Or is because Serbs are not interested in peace but only want the wealthy land of Kosova? hmm ?..

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

What an embarrassment for the Serbian ruling elite. It's fine and dandy to shake hands and pose for the cameras with Thaqi in Brussels but it's absolutely unacceptable for him to go to Belgrade?

Thaqi came out a winner. He extended an olive branch but the Serbs wouldn't have it.

If the Serbs are that dumb then they really deserve their government.

ivan

pre 9 godina

@Aleks, I totally agree with your interpretation. To quote Kostunica, no one was required to amputate a fifth of their country for a defunct, bankrupt, and a soon-to-be a non-existent EU membership. It's to punish Serbia for its alliance and warmth towards Russia. They used Milosevic as a scape goat and told him to clean-up Kosovo then stabbed him in the back, much like Saddham Hussein. These are the doings of the US and Israel. Wipe out these two countries and you have world peace.

Reader

pre 9 godina

Anyway Vucic and Dacic don't go to pristina, why should Thaci go to belgrade?!
(Adam, 20 April 2015 15:47)

Dacic was in Pristina a few weeks ago. Vucic and many more Serb politicians, including gore-lovers like the orthodox fundamentalist Serb priests go to Gracanica and other places very often.

Serbian politicians cannot say that Serbia is emancipated from the hole it fell in the 90's but still consider valid the actions of that time. Good luck.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ Demi / Teodor Muzaka -
I understand what you're saying and I can appreciate your opinion.
However, if every country were to pay for their "mistakes" the way Serbia is paying with border change, then what in the world would any country look like? What country has not had "dark" moments? What should be the price for the pogrom the Albanians had several years ago? Some land, perhaps? Maybe a chunk here or there? What I'm saying is everyone's violation against them is the "worst" ever...your's is Milosevic, Serbia's is Nato bombing, Iran's is the sanctions, Ukraine's is Russia, etc...my point is this: Where does it end?
I don't see Serbia ever giving up 15% of their land & I don't see Albanians retractiong their Independence. I appreciate what both of you are feeling, but I can only see one solution that does NOT involve the next generation of Serbs & Albanians at each others throats! I'm sorry, I just dont. I wish I could make BOTH happy, but there is no way.
Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.

Avni

pre 9 godina

This is a joke. If you want to arrest somebody you don't "inform" them ahead. This is just a game for domestic politics. Few weeks ago Ivica Dacic came to Prishtina and drank coffee with Thaci. After this I don't know how they think they can come to republic of Kosovo again. People might start protesting, not because they care for Thaci but will use that as an excuse to show Serbs how they feel.

straight to jail

pre 9 godina

roberto, for years now you pride yourself as a moral voice.

the only nazi viewpoint here is your overbearing preaching.

if you think serbs are nazi's you need to read a few history books... and go talk to the community of european nations who think otherwise.

you're comments are generally boring, shrill, and everything you say is wrong.... both politically and historically.

Bob

pre 9 godina

It irrespondible to tell someone they will be arrested.

Proper policing would require silence before the pounce.

Why give the criminals a chance to run away?

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Commenting on this issue on Monday, Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic said the Serbian authorities "will behave in line with the law" when it comes to the guilty verdict passed against Thac
Really !!??? if you look it like that all the politician who govern Serbia should be arrested too if they enter Kosovo because think about all of them used to be a part of the same government accused for crimes in Kosovo does that ring the bell even is so easy you can get all of them in you tube channel regarding Yugoslavian war 90-99 who really was employed and cheering out at that time or standing close to Milosevic.... and again is not like I LIKE thaci or any Balkan leader but it is just a very bad move from the serbians side just my that >>>cheers

a New day

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51
Such a generous Serb you are! Do you really think you are offering some sort of agreement where everyone wins?
In this fantasy of "more than autonomy" Answer these questions:
1. Would it mean that Kosovo could participate in sport organizations under their own name and flag?
2. Could they negotiate and sign deals with foreign governments without Serbian interference or approval?
3. Would they be allowed their own security forces to protect themselves from the day when Serbia once again decides to force them out? The attitude today is the same as during Milosevic as Serbs including yourself view it as SERBIAN land. That means more than words, it means that Serbs allow Albanians to live there. This would be up for revocation.
For an agreement such as yours the Albanians would give up:
The recognitions they have received, the possibility of being an equal partner in organizations including the EU. An identity that is their own. The feeling that the loss of their loved ones was not in vain.
The Serbs would lose???
They would gain the 100+ countries reassessment that Kosovo is within Serbian borders. They would gain the ability to forever have a collar on the Albanians that they could use to control them. It would much be like putting dogs in a fenced yard and allow them to roam freely within that compound. But they would never ever be able to ultimately do anything without the consent of their master.

Reader

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Watcher, it is not your land. PERIOD. It is the land of the people who live in it. You are free to wait and come over 500 years from now. You will hopefully find a better army than the last time on the ground. Did you forget that it was Serbia that broke all the deals in what was known as Yugoslavia? There was a deal where Kosovo would be autonomous, and Serbia broke it in 1989. There is no guarantee whatsoever that any deals that you are advocating now won't be broken again in the future. Even the Brussels deals, if Serbia had the power it would not even sign them. Serbia has shown time and again that it understands only force.

About the so called "Serbian mentality", I wish you the best of luck with that, Serbs are the first victims of that mentality.

j

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.
(royals, 21 April 2015 23:24)

Bardhyli, Cleitus, Bato

Ulpiana, Theranda

Also better a goat herder than a sympathizer of Serb war criminals and terrorists.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.
(royals, 21 April 2015 23:24)

Oh, no need to wait mate - I'm sure you will win any quiz about the history of some buldings. Great job! Nobody is questioning that you were an excellent student in your history class.

Now back to the topic... What does a quiz about the history of buildings has anything to do with "Thaci informed he would be arrested in Belgrade"?!

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ A new day, Demi & J,

1)yes, 2) yes & 3) yes to your 3 questions, a new day!
Demi, I'm not a wolf looking to woo sheep out. You can drop that idea right off the bat.
What amazes me is the Albanian mentality that you think the Serbs are just going to go away, to give up, to just accept the fact that 15% of their land will be cut off, never mind that it's their version of "Jerusalim"...Do you REALLY believe that they will just give it up?
Now whether you do or not, I don't know, but I can tell you (being a Serb and understanding the Serbian mentality) that they will wait forever, if neceesary,but they will come for their land. Now my point is this (not sure how many times I have to explain it)Somewhere down the line , Serbian & Albanian people will be cutting each others throats AGAIN because people elected to represent each side CANNOT come to an AGREEMENT to avoid this. Our children have nothing, but uncertain times to look forward in their future. Now Serbia, being a more developed and strategic country, will work it's way out of this quagmire. Kosovo has no opportunity...that is what we're seeing to day. Look at the YouTube videos..those are Albanian speaking youth, not Serbian! Listen to what they're are saying!!! It's not Serbian media , it's YOUR people talking!
Yes, I take pride in being a Serb, but I have NO pride in what's happening thruout that region. It's all about the Elites making money and doing business at the people's expense.

a New day

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44
I am quite positive that the people who would be making this more than autonomy deal do not agree with you.
Now the million dollar question.
If Kosovo or Pristina has total autonomy or "more" than autonomy, how does that benefit Serbs saying that Kosovo is a part of Serbia, how does that bring their "Jerusalem" into perspective. As the Albanians primarily control it.
But I think the whole thought process is once both integrate into the EU then it will not be a huge problem. At least that is the hopes. Do I believe the Serbs are going to wait indefinitely to retake Kosovo, not really. It is a changing global world, Kosovo is not going to mean anything to the Serbs of the 2100's they will be globalized. If you have any left. As the borders open and jobs become international, things will change.
Since you understand the mentality of Serbs and know they are going to come back to take "their" land, how can you be so sure they are not going to take the "autonomous" land away from the Albanians.
So far what I have gathered from you speech is that you know that ALL Serbs are Milosevic's just waiting for an opportunity.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Now whether you do or not, I don't know, but I can tell you (being a Serb and understanding the Serbian mentality) that they will wait forever, if neceesary,but they will come for their land.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Sorry mate, but you sound very confused... Which parcel(s) of land/property in Kosovo is/are in dispute? For example, land parcel 6264 in Pristina is owned by a certain B.D. Do you know any other person who is claiming that parcel of land as their property? If not, then I'm not sure what you are talking about!!!
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Now my point is this (not sure how many times I have to explain it)Somewhere down the line , Serbian & Albanian people will be cutting each others throats AGAIN because people elected to represent each side CANNOT come to an AGREEMENT to avoid this.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

You can explain that a thousand times, but not sure many people will understand. Albanians have no intention to start cutting the throats of anybody? And, I assume, normal Serbs don't either. So, not sure who is going to cut whose throat!!!!
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Now Serbia, being a more developed and strategic country, will work it's way out of this quagmire.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Great! I hope it does. It's good for all other countries bordering Serbia not to have a failed country at their borders.

royals

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo has no opportunity...that is what we're seeing to day. Look at the YouTube videos..those are Albanian speaking youth, not Serbian! Listen to what they're are saying!!! It's not Serbian media , it's YOUR people talking!
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

OK, than what?! Are they saying that they want Serbia to save them?! And, even if they were, Serbia can't even properly feed its own children, let alone being able to feed Kosovo. So, I'm not sure again what's the point that you're trying to make. Again, you sound so confused :)
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Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.
(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51)

Well, if that's how you describe the current state of affairs and you are happy with it, that's great. Kosovars are happy too to let you say that "Kosovo remains Serbian property" while they control it and make their own rules & regulations with no Serbian interference in their business. You are more than welcome to label it as "More than autonomy, less than Independence." - not many people in Kosovo would care on how you label it.

So, you are happy with being free to label the situation of Kosovo as you wish, while Kosovars are happy to live outside of Serbia's control, everybody is happy with this arrangement and so problem solved. Not sure what your concerns are!

Bahri

pre 9 godina

This is test for Serbia that shows you how much Serbia wants peace With Neighbors and others on the Regions, Serbia and Serbian Government are trouble makers criminals think all 4 Wars fought in Balkan start it from Serbs, EU should never invite Serbia to join EU Union, will be Big mistake for EU. Still allots of Criminals live in Serbia.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

.... Next generations of Serbs & Albanians BOTH deserve better than what is happening now...

@Watcher,
99% of Serbs have nazi mentality towards Albanians.They consider them as subhumans.
I was happy Albania didn't score the goal in Belgrade otherwise you will have 11 dead bodies in the field.
With whom you suggest Albanians to talk?
With 1% which have no power in Serbia?
Look at comments here in B92 by Serbs such as Ari Gold, Peggy &co who make up 99% of Serbian population.
If you can find reason on them then Good Luck!

Demi

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 15:51)

Yes talk is good. But it should be on equal bases. Albanians in Kosova dosen't consider Serbia as their country and there is no talk in the world that can change that. You (Serbia) only wants to talk on no equal bases and cannot consider Kosova to be independent. What is there to talk about when you talk with force ? You want to force Albanians to accept Serbia as their country.. That is somthing that will never happend. Do you still want to talk ?

In 1998-99 you diden't want to talk.

roberto

pre 9 godina

As I've said, and I am not the only one, there has been no real de-nazification in Serbia - the Milosevic regime continues in ideology and personnel. It would be like post-war Germany pursuing Nazi-era indictments,which they occasionally did (i am not speaking of the Stalinist east)and much to their later embarrassment. Serbia is still led by a bunch of fascists, most of whom were knee deep involved in Milosevic-era policies, and atrocities.

At any rate, now all of Serbia's so called leaders know what awaits them when they try to enter the sovereign country of Kosova.

I have an increasing admiration for Thaci in how he is dealing with the Belgrade regime. At least he knows how to play their game.

It is true that Kosova faces more than its share of problems and obstacles - but at least in part this is a result of Serbia's continuing fascist policies.

The people of the Balkans continue to suffer, yet serbia's "media" continues to promote the same old crap. Bravo...

BTW, not everyone inside Serbia goes along with this idiocy - I can testify to that. The ones we usually see on these pages are mainly very hard-core diaspora.

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

Thaci committed crimes in Serbia, is responsible of genocide against Serbs, drug trafficking, human organs trafficking and he's a mafia leader.
I know that those are "awards" and "medals" for lawless albanians, but those are crimes. Thaci must spend the rest of his life in jail.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ Demi / Teodor Muzaka -
I understand what you're saying and I can appreciate your opinion.
However, if every country were to pay for their "mistakes" the way Serbia is paying with border change, then what in the world would any country look like? What country has not had "dark" moments? What should be the price for the pogrom the Albanians had several years ago? Some land, perhaps? Maybe a chunk here or there? What I'm saying is everyone's violation against them is the "worst" ever...your's is Milosevic, Serbia's is Nato bombing, Iran's is the sanctions, Ukraine's is Russia, etc...my point is this: Where does it end?
I don't see Serbia ever giving up 15% of their land & I don't see Albanians retractiong their Independence. I appreciate what both of you are feeling, but I can only see one solution that does NOT involve the next generation of Serbs & Albanians at each others throats! I'm sorry, I just dont. I wish I could make BOTH happy, but there is no way.
Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.

XD

pre 9 godina

I hope he goes to Belgrade and the authorities there arrest him. It means there is one less theif in Prishtina. I hope Thaqi takes with him a couple of his bodies (crooks) and they can be arrested too...all that it means for the people of Kosovo is there are less theifs amongst their midst. The so called liberators have brought Kosovo on their knees and to a point where every living Kosovar would abandon their homeland given the oppurtunity. Not even Milosevic was able to contemplate such program in his wildest dreams. So feel free to arrest the thief and keep him there so hopefully the younger generation will have a chance to prosper and finally enjoy the fruits of independence.

Navi

pre 9 godina

instead he should be preparing the genocide law suit against Serbia
(Eric, 20 April 2015 14:53)

Yes he should have full opportunity to embarrass himself in front of the ICJ, not just in Belgrade.

ivan

pre 9 godina

I recall Dacic saying that every time they satisfy one condition something else just pops up. Well folks, this is not a coincidence rather, this is all staged to be used eventually against the Serbs, much like Seselj. Serbia will never enter the EU, to quote Dacic once again, even if they were to recognize Kosovo. This is a geopolitical issue, the west wants to disintegrate Serbia. The Serb politicians must drop this EU crap and openly embrace Russia, otherwise, we will be held hostage and blackmailed to eternity.

ivan

pre 9 godina

@Aleks, I totally agree with your interpretation. To quote Kostunica, no one was required to amputate a fifth of their country for a defunct, bankrupt, and a soon-to-be a non-existent EU membership. It's to punish Serbia for its alliance and warmth towards Russia. They used Milosevic as a scape goat and told him to clean-up Kosovo then stabbed him in the back, much like Saddham Hussein. These are the doings of the US and Israel. Wipe out these two countries and you have world peace.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ XD
I understand what you're saying and I agree. What we don't agree is the future of Kosovo. The younger generation, free from ties of it's previous generation, should sit together with Beograd and negotiate a win-win situation for ALL involved, without outside meddlers who are just interested in keeping thing unstable for personal interests. I would like to agree with you and "fruits of independence" should be the key to happiness, but if i did, we would BOTH be wrong. I understand the emotional stances on BOTH sides of the fence, but we all know that when emotions get involved, reason usually walks out. Next generations of Serbs & Albanians BOTH deserve better than what is happening now. We all know, sooner or later, the borders of Kosovo will change along with the dynamics of everchanging world politics. This is neither the Albanians or the Serbs fault...we just keep getting sucked into thinking our "friends" will always be there for us when needed. Both the Russians & the Americans always show their true colors. When we are of no more use...Bye Bye! Time for sane, fair and honorable represenatives of our peoples to step up and talk to EACH OTHER, NOT 3rd PARTIES!

Demi

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51

You sound like an wolf trying to fool some barricaded sheep's to come out of their barricade. But you should know by now that Albanians are no stupid sheep's. We know serbs more than they know their self.

Why cant we talk and solve problems like two different independent countrys and live in peace side by side ? I mean serbs dont want anything to do with Albanians and Albanians dont want anything to do with serbs. It seems like the right choice to let them be seperated.. Maybe then they could learn to respect each other on equal basis and live in peace.


Or is because Serbs are not interested in peace but only want the wealthy land of Kosova? hmm ?..

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

What an embarrassment for the Serbian ruling elite. It's fine and dandy to shake hands and pose for the cameras with Thaqi in Brussels but it's absolutely unacceptable for him to go to Belgrade?

Thaqi came out a winner. He extended an olive branch but the Serbs wouldn't have it.

If the Serbs are that dumb then they really deserve their government.

Adam

pre 9 godina

It'll be exciting to see what happens if he actually does go, but i'm sure he doesn't have the guts for it...... Anyway Vucic and Dacic don't go to pristina, why should Thaci go to belgrade?!

Reader

pre 9 godina

Anyway Vucic and Dacic don't go to pristina, why should Thaci go to belgrade?!
(Adam, 20 April 2015 15:47)

Dacic was in Pristina a few weeks ago. Vucic and many more Serb politicians, including gore-lovers like the orthodox fundamentalist Serb priests go to Gracanica and other places very often.

Serbian politicians cannot say that Serbia is emancipated from the hole it fell in the 90's but still consider valid the actions of that time. Good luck.

j

pre 9 godina

Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.
(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51)

Sorry buddy. It doesn't work that way. Only a fool would agree willfully to a status of inequality just so we can soothe the Serbian ego or pride. Its nobody's fault that Serbs get so easily but.thurt, humiliated, provoked over just about anything. That is an issue that the collective psyche of your nation needs to deal with. We should not give up our freedom over some abstraction of perceived humiliation of Serb armchair patriots or warpigs residing in Belgrade. Others do not have to adjust their lives because of some Serb complexion. Equal means equal, and that means Kosova a state, separate, and independent; just like Serbia. The moment you include words such as less than, you have raped equality. Freedom tastes the same for a Kosova Albanian just like it does for a Serb. If less than autonomy and greater than independence is so great according to you, then you should suggest for Serbia to become an autonomous region under Kosova. We promise we won't intrude in your affairs. You also avoid humiliation that way.

Aleks

pre 9 godina

@ Ivan, you sure make a good point. Somehow I have a feeling that there is more to this behind the scenes. Suddenly, out of no where, this issue of Thaci wanting to come to Belgrade has come up. Who is pushing this and why? It's not like Belgrade extended this invitation. This is certain members of the EU and the US creating this behind the scenes. Serbia has come out now and taken a stand. I guarantee you they are under pressure to let Thaci come and visit, because they want to use that against Serbia as a way to suggest they have recognized Kosovo.

Serbia has taken the right stand here and I hope they stick to their guns. I want nothing but the best for Serbia, and of course I would love to see a European Serbia, but not like this. They are using the EU as a means to harm Serbia and even humiliate the politicians. No other country was asked for anything like this at all. I guarantee if Seselj went to Kosovo right now, he would be arrested. Thaci is a known thug and criminal, both against Serbs and Albanians. He has murdered both. He deserves to be arrested if he goes to Belgrade.

j

pre 9 godina

It looks like in the near future there will be a few Serb officials indicted for terrorism by the courts in Prishtina. It will be smaller fishes to start with; Vulin types. Then the types of Dacic and Vucic. Thaci will then point out to the court verdict and inform them they will be arrested. Serbia has more to lose when Serb politicians are not allowed in Kosova then the other way around. Serbs as always, acting on emotions rather than logic. This was a test, the occasion where Serbia could show the world that it had separated from its dark past. Thaci could have been allowed in and ignored by everyone, media as well. Instead you decide based on emotions and now you have the cavemen image.

Who's next to arrest from those kangaroo courts, Albright, Clinton, or Blair? Oh but I digress not only you can't arrest Blair, the Serbian state is using its budget money to pay him. This comedy has no end in sight.

straight to jail

pre 9 godina

roberto, for years now you pride yourself as a moral voice.

the only nazi viewpoint here is your overbearing preaching.

if you think serbs are nazi's you need to read a few history books... and go talk to the community of european nations who think otherwise.

you're comments are generally boring, shrill, and everything you say is wrong.... both politically and historically.

a New day

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51
Such a generous Serb you are! Do you really think you are offering some sort of agreement where everyone wins?
In this fantasy of "more than autonomy" Answer these questions:
1. Would it mean that Kosovo could participate in sport organizations under their own name and flag?
2. Could they negotiate and sign deals with foreign governments without Serbian interference or approval?
3. Would they be allowed their own security forces to protect themselves from the day when Serbia once again decides to force them out? The attitude today is the same as during Milosevic as Serbs including yourself view it as SERBIAN land. That means more than words, it means that Serbs allow Albanians to live there. This would be up for revocation.
For an agreement such as yours the Albanians would give up:
The recognitions they have received, the possibility of being an equal partner in organizations including the EU. An identity that is their own. The feeling that the loss of their loved ones was not in vain.
The Serbs would lose???
They would gain the 100+ countries reassessment that Kosovo is within Serbian borders. They would gain the ability to forever have a collar on the Albanians that they could use to control them. It would much be like putting dogs in a fenced yard and allow them to roam freely within that compound. But they would never ever be able to ultimately do anything without the consent of their master.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

All this hullabaloo is for internal consumption only. It is basically the same technique Rama uses in Albania, pick on local sentiment to seem 'patriotic'. No Serb official objects to meeting a man on whom an arrest warrant exists from Serbia, their apparent principles don't extend that far, yet when it comes to having to look 'Serbian' to the Serb population, they very obviously play that card well. Give it 1 month and Dacic and Thaci will be smiling for the cameras again, the arrest warrant forgotten

royals

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.

Watcher

pre 9 godina

@ A new day, Demi & J,

1)yes, 2) yes & 3) yes to your 3 questions, a new day!
Demi, I'm not a wolf looking to woo sheep out. You can drop that idea right off the bat.
What amazes me is the Albanian mentality that you think the Serbs are just going to go away, to give up, to just accept the fact that 15% of their land will be cut off, never mind that it's their version of "Jerusalim"...Do you REALLY believe that they will just give it up?
Now whether you do or not, I don't know, but I can tell you (being a Serb and understanding the Serbian mentality) that they will wait forever, if neceesary,but they will come for their land. Now my point is this (not sure how many times I have to explain it)Somewhere down the line , Serbian & Albanian people will be cutting each others throats AGAIN because people elected to represent each side CANNOT come to an AGREEMENT to avoid this. Our children have nothing, but uncertain times to look forward in their future. Now Serbia, being a more developed and strategic country, will work it's way out of this quagmire. Kosovo has no opportunity...that is what we're seeing to day. Look at the YouTube videos..those are Albanian speaking youth, not Serbian! Listen to what they're are saying!!! It's not Serbian media , it's YOUR people talking!
Yes, I take pride in being a Serb, but I have NO pride in what's happening thruout that region. It's all about the Elites making money and doing business at the people's expense.

Avni

pre 9 godina

This is a joke. If you want to arrest somebody you don't "inform" them ahead. This is just a game for domestic politics. Few weeks ago Ivica Dacic came to Prishtina and drank coffee with Thaci. After this I don't know how they think they can come to republic of Kosovo again. People might start protesting, not because they care for Thaci but will use that as an excuse to show Serbs how they feel.

Kos-Can

pre 9 godina

Please arrest him, 70% of Albanians in Kosova will be thankful, he hasn't been involved in any battles during 1998-1999. He's a professional liar. He was self declared leader of KLA. Belgrade made a big mistake by telling him he will be arrested. Serbia should've kept it secret that arrest warrant. He and a lot of criminals in Prishtina have brought the people to their knees. Once again I would ask the authorities in Belgrade to tell him that it is OK for him to go to Belgrade and then you do your thing and put him not 10 years but 100 years in prison.

justhetruth

pre 9 godina

Commenting on this issue on Monday, Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic said the Serbian authorities "will behave in line with the law" when it comes to the guilty verdict passed against Thac
Really !!??? if you look it like that all the politician who govern Serbia should be arrested too if they enter Kosovo because think about all of them used to be a part of the same government accused for crimes in Kosovo does that ring the bell even is so easy you can get all of them in you tube channel regarding Yugoslavian war 90-99 who really was employed and cheering out at that time or standing close to Milosevic.... and again is not like I LIKE thaci or any Balkan leader but it is just a very bad move from the serbians side just my that >>>cheers

j

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.
(royals, 21 April 2015 23:24)

Bardhyli, Cleitus, Bato

Ulpiana, Theranda

Also better a goat herder than a sympathizer of Serb war criminals and terrorists.

Bob

pre 9 godina

It irrespondible to tell someone they will be arrested.

Proper policing would require silence before the pounce.

Why give the criminals a chance to run away?

Reader

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Watcher, it is not your land. PERIOD. It is the land of the people who live in it. You are free to wait and come over 500 years from now. You will hopefully find a better army than the last time on the ground. Did you forget that it was Serbia that broke all the deals in what was known as Yugoslavia? There was a deal where Kosovo would be autonomous, and Serbia broke it in 1989. There is no guarantee whatsoever that any deals that you are advocating now won't be broken again in the future. Even the Brussels deals, if Serbia had the power it would not even sign them. Serbia has shown time and again that it understands only force.

About the so called "Serbian mentality", I wish you the best of luck with that, Serbs are the first victims of that mentality.

a New day

pre 9 godina

(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44
I am quite positive that the people who would be making this more than autonomy deal do not agree with you.
Now the million dollar question.
If Kosovo or Pristina has total autonomy or "more" than autonomy, how does that benefit Serbs saying that Kosovo is a part of Serbia, how does that bring their "Jerusalem" into perspective. As the Albanians primarily control it.
But I think the whole thought process is once both integrate into the EU then it will not be a huge problem. At least that is the hopes. Do I believe the Serbs are going to wait indefinitely to retake Kosovo, not really. It is a changing global world, Kosovo is not going to mean anything to the Serbs of the 2100's they will be globalized. If you have any left. As the borders open and jobs become international, things will change.
Since you understand the mentality of Serbs and know they are going to come back to take "their" land, how can you be so sure they are not going to take the "autonomous" land away from the Albanians.
So far what I have gathered from you speech is that you know that ALL Serbs are Milosevic's just waiting for an opportunity.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Can a goat herder please name 6 historical, cultural or religious monument or building that is of Albanian origin dating back 200 years in Kosovo, as I can name 30+ Serbian ones that date back 700+ years. I wait in anticipation.
Just a bunch of goat herding thieves.
(royals, 21 April 2015 23:24)

Oh, no need to wait mate - I'm sure you will win any quiz about the history of some buldings. Great job! Nobody is questioning that you were an excellent student in your history class.

Now back to the topic... What does a quiz about the history of buildings has anything to do with "Thaci informed he would be arrested in Belgrade"?!

icj1

pre 9 godina

Now whether you do or not, I don't know, but I can tell you (being a Serb and understanding the Serbian mentality) that they will wait forever, if neceesary,but they will come for their land.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Sorry mate, but you sound very confused... Which parcel(s) of land/property in Kosovo is/are in dispute? For example, land parcel 6264 in Pristina is owned by a certain B.D. Do you know any other person who is claiming that parcel of land as their property? If not, then I'm not sure what you are talking about!!!
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Now my point is this (not sure how many times I have to explain it)Somewhere down the line , Serbian & Albanian people will be cutting each others throats AGAIN because people elected to represent each side CANNOT come to an AGREEMENT to avoid this.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

You can explain that a thousand times, but not sure many people will understand. Albanians have no intention to start cutting the throats of anybody? And, I assume, normal Serbs don't either. So, not sure who is going to cut whose throat!!!!
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Now Serbia, being a more developed and strategic country, will work it's way out of this quagmire.
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

Great! I hope it does. It's good for all other countries bordering Serbia not to have a failed country at their borders.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Kosovo has no opportunity...that is what we're seeing to day. Look at the YouTube videos..those are Albanian speaking youth, not Serbian! Listen to what they're are saying!!! It's not Serbian media , it's YOUR people talking!
(Watcher, 21 April 2015 17:44)

OK, than what?! Are they saying that they want Serbia to save them?! And, even if they were, Serbia can't even properly feed its own children, let alone being able to feed Kosovo. So, I'm not sure again what's the point that you're trying to make. Again, you sound so confused :)
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Kosovo remains Serbian property with the Albanians making their own rules & regulations, no Serbian interference in their business!
More than autonomy, less than Independence.
(Watcher, 20 April 2015 19:51)

Well, if that's how you describe the current state of affairs and you are happy with it, that's great. Kosovars are happy too to let you say that "Kosovo remains Serbian property" while they control it and make their own rules & regulations with no Serbian interference in their business. You are more than welcome to label it as "More than autonomy, less than Independence." - not many people in Kosovo would care on how you label it.

So, you are happy with being free to label the situation of Kosovo as you wish, while Kosovars are happy to live outside of Serbia's control, everybody is happy with this arrangement and so problem solved. Not sure what your concerns are!