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Tuesday, 24.03.2015.

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"Unification" of Kosovo and Albania "through EU"

Albanian Prime Minister Edi Rama has said that Albania and Kosovo "united the nation through the European Union."

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lili

pre 9 godina

Albanians are United,like it or not! Geografical unification will come ,but we need some time : serbia is spending millions to fund in albania and europe anti-unification mouvements and propaganda...just mije serbia spent millions for antiindependence!
Albanians are user to bre United,despite frontières,you should have learned this at least fromm History!

Joe A

pre 9 godina

The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died.
(cry me a river, 24 March 2015 16:23)

Hundreds of thousands? As in multiple hundreds of thousands?
Death toll in Bosnia stands at 100.000. 60% muslems, 30% Serb and 10% Croat.
A Bosniak scientist established that. And the war in Bosnia could have been avoided but the Vance-Owen plan was sabotaged.

lukebuyenovich

pre 9 godina

"Unification"of Kosovo and Albania"through EU"
What a absurd this is?Both Albania and Kosovo are failed entities.Lower of the lowest in all of the categories of worthy human endeavors on the map of Europe today.Long planted infectious gene by Islamic faith on primitive Illyrian tribes is still alive.They were thought by their Ottoman masters to hate and fight Serbs and they will get their subsidy.
That's apparently what Mr. Prime Minister Edi Rama expects from EU.Serbs should be aware of the facts of the way EU is conducting their business these days.I always was and still am for peaceful resolution of all conflicts among the people and Nations.However you have to be alive to be able to negotiate.Unfortunately our history is not that way ,we always fought defensive wars .Only one time in my memory we got full recognition and that was Proclamation of "SERBIAN DAY" by 28th President of USA Thomas Woodrow Wilson after the World War 1.It would be a good idea for everyone in Europe in position of authority to re-visit that historical event.We can not live in the past but we can draw the lesson for the future.

icj1

pre 9 godina

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 16:45)

Exactly, Albanians care more about the practicalities than labeling...

j

pre 9 godina

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 16:45)

I still don't get what the issue is. Strictly speaking, Albanians are a subset of Europe. If all of the peoples of Europe are united with each other through the EU, then Albanians as a subset are also united with each other and with the other peoples of Europe through the EU. I suspect there are two things that are going on here:

1. You have no clue on Rama's political stance other than the B.S you read on your papers or from your idiot politicians like that minister of yours speaking today. Rama committed political suicide by giving a Serb the "city key" as mayor of Tirana; but he didn't care. He could have easily become prime minister 8 years ago had he followed the line of blind nationalism. He chose not to.You can call him whatever you want but a nationalist he is not. He is not widely popular in Kosova precisely because of this.

2. Xenophobia. This leads to knee-jerk reactions and to absurdities and paradoxes where a Serb will not bat an eye when Serbia and Republica Srpska sign similar agreements but when Albania and Kosova do then its the end of the world and Armagedon is upon us. How many Albanians have you seen complain about agreements Serbia and Republics Srpska have signed? That's right, we don't give a damn. Learn to be OK when others sign the same type of agreements you've signed.

Dwight

pre 9 godina

If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.
(Joe A, 24 March 2015 12:44)

They already have such an agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Special_Parallel_Relations

the Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

"Unification" of Kosovo and Albania "through EU"

No matter how many times they read the above sentence, our Serb neighbors don't seem to get it. Unfortunately, subtlety is wasted on the Serbs.

p.s. How do you like them apples, Russia

JustAnotherKosovar

pre 9 godina

Yes Serbians. Albanians are the MOST important factor in Europe now. Yes, Greater Albania is happening and will finally happen very soon. What can you do about it?! Nothing.

Take your time and comment now!

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

I thought the EU does not allow any redrawing of maps in Europe?
If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.
(Joe A,

The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"Comm.Parrison, take a chill pill dude. Rama is not wrong. When all the Balkans join the EU all of its peoples will be united with each other."
(j, 24 March 2015 12:04)

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania. In fact, idea of a common, united Europe without borders is exactly the opposite of stupid nationalism and 'greater XXX (insert the nation of your choice)' ideas and changing borders.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died."
(cry me a river, 24 March 2015 16:23)

Exactly. And still, people dream of 'greater XXXX', even if they call it 'natural XXX' or 'unification' (the latter is a term Putin used for annexation of Crimea and stealing territory from a neighbor state, btw)

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Well I guess that applies to Serbia and Kosovo too.....
(Walter, 24 March 2015 09:35)

Serbia, Bosnia and Kosovo,
Greece, Cyprus, and Albania
Croatia and Bosnia
Bulgaria and Macedonia,
Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Croatia, and Slovakia,

Yes, the EU is the harbinger of everyone's imagined Greater Whatever.

Reader

pre 9 godina

P.S: Albania failed once again to even get EU candidate status.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 11:26)

LOL, don't you get tired of being wrong?

Joe A

pre 9 godina

I thought the EU does not allow any redrawing of maps in Europe?
If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.

j

pre 9 godina

Comm.Parrison, take a chill pill dude. Rama is not wrong. When all the Balkans join the EU all of its peoples will be united with each other. Kosova Albanians with Albania, Kosova Serbs with Serbia. Bosnia Serbs with Serbia etc. etc. Stop being so paranoid and xenophobic for once. No matter how hard you try to hide it still shows.
Nothing really special happened today. Every year at this time agreements are made for the summer so people do not stay in line for hours and hours to pass the border and make it to the beach. Why that infuriates the Serbs, I have no clue? As a matter of fact Serbia and Macedonia get the same deal. The goal is to make it as easy as possible for those who want to get at beach.All the rest is packaging for TV cameras and internal consumption. Stop being a sourpus all the time.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

You're well behind Comm, Albania has been granted candidate status, maybe you need to read more, in fact scratch the maybe and add a definitely. p.s. what did Rama say that bothers you so? He did not call for political unification did he?

sj

pre 9 godina

I have a hard time not laughing. What a stupid comment. He couldn’t unify all the Albanians now it’s through the EU. So that means Poland, Slovakia and Germany too???? LOL what comedian.

pip

pre 9 godina

I thing Serbia Albania Kosovo BIH Montenegro Macedonia must join the EU at the same time.With equal rights under the same union Balkans will be a better place to live

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

What kind of nonsense is he talking about? How can bilateral agreements be seen as unification? And what has it to do with EU if criminals from Kosovo and Albania are allowed to cross their border freely? Neither Kosovo nor Albania is an EU member.

P.S: Albania failed once again to even get EU candidate status because of the corrupt criminal government didn't change under Rama.

Reader

pre 9 godina

P.S: Albania failed once again to even get EU candidate status.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 11:26)

LOL, don't you get tired of being wrong?

j

pre 9 godina

Comm.Parrison, take a chill pill dude. Rama is not wrong. When all the Balkans join the EU all of its peoples will be united with each other. Kosova Albanians with Albania, Kosova Serbs with Serbia. Bosnia Serbs with Serbia etc. etc. Stop being so paranoid and xenophobic for once. No matter how hard you try to hide it still shows.
Nothing really special happened today. Every year at this time agreements are made for the summer so people do not stay in line for hours and hours to pass the border and make it to the beach. Why that infuriates the Serbs, I have no clue? As a matter of fact Serbia and Macedonia get the same deal. The goal is to make it as easy as possible for those who want to get at beach.All the rest is packaging for TV cameras and internal consumption. Stop being a sourpus all the time.

JustAnotherKosovar

pre 9 godina

Yes Serbians. Albanians are the MOST important factor in Europe now. Yes, Greater Albania is happening and will finally happen very soon. What can you do about it?! Nothing.

Take your time and comment now!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

You're well behind Comm, Albania has been granted candidate status, maybe you need to read more, in fact scratch the maybe and add a definitely. p.s. what did Rama say that bothers you so? He did not call for political unification did he?

j

pre 9 godina

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 16:45)

I still don't get what the issue is. Strictly speaking, Albanians are a subset of Europe. If all of the peoples of Europe are united with each other through the EU, then Albanians as a subset are also united with each other and with the other peoples of Europe through the EU. I suspect there are two things that are going on here:

1. You have no clue on Rama's political stance other than the B.S you read on your papers or from your idiot politicians like that minister of yours speaking today. Rama committed political suicide by giving a Serb the "city key" as mayor of Tirana; but he didn't care. He could have easily become prime minister 8 years ago had he followed the line of blind nationalism. He chose not to.You can call him whatever you want but a nationalist he is not. He is not widely popular in Kosova precisely because of this.

2. Xenophobia. This leads to knee-jerk reactions and to absurdities and paradoxes where a Serb will not bat an eye when Serbia and Republica Srpska sign similar agreements but when Albania and Kosova do then its the end of the world and Armagedon is upon us. How many Albanians have you seen complain about agreements Serbia and Republics Srpska have signed? That's right, we don't give a damn. Learn to be OK when others sign the same type of agreements you've signed.

sj

pre 9 godina

I have a hard time not laughing. What a stupid comment. He couldn’t unify all the Albanians now it’s through the EU. So that means Poland, Slovakia and Germany too???? LOL what comedian.

the Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

"Unification" of Kosovo and Albania "through EU"

No matter how many times they read the above sentence, our Serb neighbors don't seem to get it. Unfortunately, subtlety is wasted on the Serbs.

p.s. How do you like them apples, Russia

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

What kind of nonsense is he talking about? How can bilateral agreements be seen as unification? And what has it to do with EU if criminals from Kosovo and Albania are allowed to cross their border freely? Neither Kosovo nor Albania is an EU member.

P.S: Albania failed once again to even get EU candidate status because of the corrupt criminal government didn't change under Rama.

pip

pre 9 godina

I thing Serbia Albania Kosovo BIH Montenegro Macedonia must join the EU at the same time.With equal rights under the same union Balkans will be a better place to live

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

I thought the EU does not allow any redrawing of maps in Europe?
If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.
(Joe A,

The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died.

lukebuyenovich

pre 9 godina

"Unification"of Kosovo and Albania"through EU"
What a absurd this is?Both Albania and Kosovo are failed entities.Lower of the lowest in all of the categories of worthy human endeavors on the map of Europe today.Long planted infectious gene by Islamic faith on primitive Illyrian tribes is still alive.They were thought by their Ottoman masters to hate and fight Serbs and they will get their subsidy.
That's apparently what Mr. Prime Minister Edi Rama expects from EU.Serbs should be aware of the facts of the way EU is conducting their business these days.I always was and still am for peaceful resolution of all conflicts among the people and Nations.However you have to be alive to be able to negotiate.Unfortunately our history is not that way ,we always fought defensive wars .Only one time in my memory we got full recognition and that was Proclamation of "SERBIAN DAY" by 28th President of USA Thomas Woodrow Wilson after the World War 1.It would be a good idea for everyone in Europe in position of authority to re-visit that historical event.We can not live in the past but we can draw the lesson for the future.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

I thought the EU does not allow any redrawing of maps in Europe?
If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Well I guess that applies to Serbia and Kosovo too.....
(Walter, 24 March 2015 09:35)

Serbia, Bosnia and Kosovo,
Greece, Cyprus, and Albania
Croatia and Bosnia
Bulgaria and Macedonia,
Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Croatia, and Slovakia,

Yes, the EU is the harbinger of everyone's imagined Greater Whatever.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died.
(cry me a river, 24 March 2015 16:23)

Hundreds of thousands? As in multiple hundreds of thousands?
Death toll in Bosnia stands at 100.000. 60% muslems, 30% Serb and 10% Croat.
A Bosniak scientist established that. And the war in Bosnia could have been avoided but the Vance-Owen plan was sabotaged.

Dwight

pre 9 godina

If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.
(Joe A, 24 March 2015 12:44)

They already have such an agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Special_Parallel_Relations

icj1

pre 9 godina

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 16:45)

Exactly, Albanians care more about the practicalities than labeling...

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died."
(cry me a river, 24 March 2015 16:23)

Exactly. And still, people dream of 'greater XXXX', even if they call it 'natural XXX' or 'unification' (the latter is a term Putin used for annexation of Crimea and stealing territory from a neighbor state, btw)

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"Comm.Parrison, take a chill pill dude. Rama is not wrong. When all the Balkans join the EU all of its peoples will be united with each other."
(j, 24 March 2015 12:04)

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania. In fact, idea of a common, united Europe without borders is exactly the opposite of stupid nationalism and 'greater XXX (insert the nation of your choice)' ideas and changing borders.

lili

pre 9 godina

Albanians are United,like it or not! Geografical unification will come ,but we need some time : serbia is spending millions to fund in albania and europe anti-unification mouvements and propaganda...just mije serbia spent millions for antiindependence!
Albanians are user to bre United,despite frontières,you should have learned this at least fromm History!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

What kind of nonsense is he talking about? How can bilateral agreements be seen as unification? And what has it to do with EU if criminals from Kosovo and Albania are allowed to cross their border freely? Neither Kosovo nor Albania is an EU member.

P.S: Albania failed once again to even get EU candidate status because of the corrupt criminal government didn't change under Rama.

sj

pre 9 godina

I have a hard time not laughing. What a stupid comment. He couldn’t unify all the Albanians now it’s through the EU. So that means Poland, Slovakia and Germany too???? LOL what comedian.

Joe A

pre 9 godina

I thought the EU does not allow any redrawing of maps in Europe?
If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.

lukebuyenovich

pre 9 godina

"Unification"of Kosovo and Albania"through EU"
What a absurd this is?Both Albania and Kosovo are failed entities.Lower of the lowest in all of the categories of worthy human endeavors on the map of Europe today.Long planted infectious gene by Islamic faith on primitive Illyrian tribes is still alive.They were thought by their Ottoman masters to hate and fight Serbs and they will get their subsidy.
That's apparently what Mr. Prime Minister Edi Rama expects from EU.Serbs should be aware of the facts of the way EU is conducting their business these days.I always was and still am for peaceful resolution of all conflicts among the people and Nations.However you have to be alive to be able to negotiate.Unfortunately our history is not that way ,we always fought defensive wars .Only one time in my memory we got full recognition and that was Proclamation of "SERBIAN DAY" by 28th President of USA Thomas Woodrow Wilson after the World War 1.It would be a good idea for everyone in Europe in position of authority to re-visit that historical event.We can not live in the past but we can draw the lesson for the future.

Reader

pre 9 godina

P.S: Albania failed once again to even get EU candidate status.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 11:26)

LOL, don't you get tired of being wrong?

the Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

"Unification" of Kosovo and Albania "through EU"

No matter how many times they read the above sentence, our Serb neighbors don't seem to get it. Unfortunately, subtlety is wasted on the Serbs.

p.s. How do you like them apples, Russia

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

You're well behind Comm, Albania has been granted candidate status, maybe you need to read more, in fact scratch the maybe and add a definitely. p.s. what did Rama say that bothers you so? He did not call for political unification did he?

j

pre 9 godina

Comm.Parrison, take a chill pill dude. Rama is not wrong. When all the Balkans join the EU all of its peoples will be united with each other. Kosova Albanians with Albania, Kosova Serbs with Serbia. Bosnia Serbs with Serbia etc. etc. Stop being so paranoid and xenophobic for once. No matter how hard you try to hide it still shows.
Nothing really special happened today. Every year at this time agreements are made for the summer so people do not stay in line for hours and hours to pass the border and make it to the beach. Why that infuriates the Serbs, I have no clue? As a matter of fact Serbia and Macedonia get the same deal. The goal is to make it as easy as possible for those who want to get at beach.All the rest is packaging for TV cameras and internal consumption. Stop being a sourpus all the time.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

I thought the EU does not allow any redrawing of maps in Europe?
If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.
(Joe A,

The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died."
(cry me a river, 24 March 2015 16:23)

Exactly. And still, people dream of 'greater XXXX', even if they call it 'natural XXX' or 'unification' (the latter is a term Putin used for annexation of Crimea and stealing territory from a neighbor state, btw)

JustAnotherKosovar

pre 9 godina

Yes Serbians. Albanians are the MOST important factor in Europe now. Yes, Greater Albania is happening and will finally happen very soon. What can you do about it?! Nothing.

Take your time and comment now!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Well I guess that applies to Serbia and Kosovo too.....
(Walter, 24 March 2015 09:35)

Serbia, Bosnia and Kosovo,
Greece, Cyprus, and Albania
Croatia and Bosnia
Bulgaria and Macedonia,
Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Croatia, and Slovakia,

Yes, the EU is the harbinger of everyone's imagined Greater Whatever.

pip

pre 9 godina

I thing Serbia Albania Kosovo BIH Montenegro Macedonia must join the EU at the same time.With equal rights under the same union Balkans will be a better place to live

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"Comm.Parrison, take a chill pill dude. Rama is not wrong. When all the Balkans join the EU all of its peoples will be united with each other."
(j, 24 March 2015 12:04)

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania. In fact, idea of a common, united Europe without borders is exactly the opposite of stupid nationalism and 'greater XXX (insert the nation of your choice)' ideas and changing borders.

icj1

pre 9 godina

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 16:45)

Exactly, Albanians care more about the practicalities than labeling...

Joe A

pre 9 godina

The last time they attempted to create Greater Serbia hundreds of thousands of people died.
(cry me a river, 24 March 2015 16:23)

Hundreds of thousands? As in multiple hundreds of thousands?
Death toll in Bosnia stands at 100.000. 60% muslems, 30% Serb and 10% Croat.
A Bosniak scientist established that. And the war in Bosnia could have been avoided but the Vance-Owen plan was sabotaged.

j

pre 9 godina

You name it. All united with EACH other, without borders, but no 'Unification' of Kosovo and Albania.
(Comm. Parrisson, 24 March 2015 16:45)

I still don't get what the issue is. Strictly speaking, Albanians are a subset of Europe. If all of the peoples of Europe are united with each other through the EU, then Albanians as a subset are also united with each other and with the other peoples of Europe through the EU. I suspect there are two things that are going on here:

1. You have no clue on Rama's political stance other than the B.S you read on your papers or from your idiot politicians like that minister of yours speaking today. Rama committed political suicide by giving a Serb the "city key" as mayor of Tirana; but he didn't care. He could have easily become prime minister 8 years ago had he followed the line of blind nationalism. He chose not to.You can call him whatever you want but a nationalist he is not. He is not widely popular in Kosova precisely because of this.

2. Xenophobia. This leads to knee-jerk reactions and to absurdities and paradoxes where a Serb will not bat an eye when Serbia and Republica Srpska sign similar agreements but when Albania and Kosova do then its the end of the world and Armagedon is upon us. How many Albanians have you seen complain about agreements Serbia and Republics Srpska have signed? That's right, we don't give a damn. Learn to be OK when others sign the same type of agreements you've signed.

Dwight

pre 9 godina

If Serbia and Republika Srpska would announce something like this all hell would break lose in the EU.
(Joe A, 24 March 2015 12:44)

They already have such an agreement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Special_Parallel_Relations

lili

pre 9 godina

Albanians are United,like it or not! Geografical unification will come ,but we need some time : serbia is spending millions to fund in albania and europe anti-unification mouvements and propaganda...just mije serbia spent millions for antiindependence!
Albanians are user to bre United,despite frontières,you should have learned this at least fromm History!