Croatian PM to snub SE Europe-China summit - over Šešelj

The Croatian PM won't attend? Oh no, that's tragic!! Who cares about Croatia anyway.

Who cares what the ustas have to say.

Looks like Šešelj knows how to poke sore spots very well although I'm confused as to what he said was regarded as hate speech while considering that Croatia still celebrates genocide and what comes out of their singer Thomson seems much more provocative than that coming from Šešelj.

However, not attending a conference regarding investments with China is good news. Probably means more funding for Serbia. Croatia should stick with their partner Germany and keep shooting themselves in the foot.

While I have to give credit to Milanovic for at least being honest about Croatia's own delightfully homespun racism whenever a sign in Cyrillic is destroyed by a bunch of homeless war veterans, I really wonder what he expects officials in Belgrade to do other than what they've already done: ignore Seselj and hope the old "Duke" is dragged back to the Hague. Considering Croat leaders openly and happily welcome home war criminals with conveniently dropped charges as returning heroes with concerts, family fun days with Thompson providing singalongs, and over the top exhortations to Faith, Family, and Fatherland (usually associated with ethnic cleaning) also with Thompson providing singalongs, officials in Belgrade are behaving a hell of a lot better than their counterparts in the antemurale christianitatis.

Za dom call the kettle black.

Zoran Milanovic, the Croatian president with a name so Serbian, even Draza Mihailovic would give him the thumbs up.

Im guessing Zoran is having a cry because Seselj told the world how Croats are all Serbs who converted to Catholicism/Satanism. I guess Zoran forgot to change his name when he converted, silly mistake buddy! hahaha

What does he expect them to do? Dress up in Croatian football kits and kick his head in in the middle of Belgrade?The Serbian government are ignoring him, which is all they can do. Much as I despise Seselj and his hate filled drivel, he hasn't been convicted yet and the Hague haven't recalled him.

I can't say you're going to be missed.

This is great news, all we need is Kosova, Albania, and Bosnia on board to follow this method, and that is 25% of PM's who will not
(Albanian, 28 November 2014 17:21)

Wow you can do math. Except your quasi stillborn state is not one of the 16 which were invited to participate. China, now the worlds largest economy, does not recognize your occupation. Bosnia's PM will attend (although they have 3 PM's-Bosniak, Serb and Croat idk which one of them will come). Albania will sadly probably be there.

Croatia wont and for some reason I don't think China will give a rats ass.

ZA DUMMY!

It's not a snub if nobody really even cared in the first place. If Milanovic has a problem with Seselj, he should be snubbing the ICTY. However, he did serve 12 years in detention. No charges, just allegations. He is a free man for a reason and has every right to express his opinion just like Milanovic does.

Most of it is going to Croatian Rijeka port ,railway and road upgrades to central ,eastern Europe. The best part no Chinese workers unlike Serbia flooded with them and their cheap goods low quality stores.
(Lenard, 28 November 2014 17:16)

So in addition to selling more of your coastline to foreign investors thereby further reducing what's worth anything in Croatia to the people who live there, you're also as intolerant against Chinese?

Nice to know your insanity goes beyond the Serbian border. Stay wacky as ever and try not to bite the orderlies when they strap you in at night.

Please, EU MPs, Croatian Government, everyone... Stop paying attention to this crazy old idiot Seselj. He and his hate-filled followers crave this attention.

@ albanian

Your comments are like an NGO pre-recorded propaganda answering machine.

Not because of Seselj but taking care
what lady Merkel is thinking about
the summit.

LOL Is that the reason Kroatia is broke? Those projects you mentioned, they are only ideas as the Chinese have not allocated a cent. This gathering in Belgrade is get the Chinese to invest and no Kroatia no investments. Anway hope tourism go this year? Up by 45%?

LOL Is that the reason Kroatia is broke? Those projects you mentioned, they are only ideas as the Chinese have not allocated a cent. This gathering in Belgrade is get the Chinese to invest and no Kroatia no investments. Anway hope tourism go this year? Up by 45%?
(sj, 28 November 2014 21:16) No that is why Serbia is broke it has a 5 billion trade deficit and a 2 billion a year borrowing. Just to pay mostly intrest of the other billions it borrowed. Then their is the lunatic Srpska entity criminal fantasy aka Greater war criminal Serbia in crimanely occupied Bosnia. A huge dead beat millstone tied arownd Serbias scrawny chicken nek. As for Croatian tourisem it is growing by 5% a year adding 600,000+ more tourist a year and billions to its economy. From Asia it is growing, by 100% from S Korea ,18% from China and 16% from Japan to Croatia. Their are two Chinese Air lines intrested in buying Croatian Air lines as they want to expand in to Europe. The goverment should not sell Croatian Airlines. It has started to make a profit last year and looks to make even a bigger profit this year. As for the city of Rijeka sea port it handeles about 5,000 ships a year. It is reaching its infrastructure capacity also roads, railways to central and eastern Europe from Rijeka. It needs a major upgrade for the volumes that are ever increasing. The Chinese use it as their maine port for exports in to good part of Europe. It is purely a buisness deal benifitting both parties.

The Chinese 10 billion investment money has been already spoken for. 5 billion of it is earmarked for Croatia by the Chinese. Most of it is going to Croatian Rijeka port ,railway and road upgrades to central ,eastern Europe. The best part no Chinese workers unlike Serbia flooded with them and their cheap goods low quality stores.

"I can't say you're going to be missed.
(Ari Gold, 28 November 2014 17:31)"

Ari's mom let him out the cellar after a few days hiatus :)

This is great news, all we need is Kosova, Albania, and Bosnia on board to follow this method, and that is 25% of PM's who will not attend this meeting. This does send a strong message to Serbian government that we will not tolerate any Serbian radicals giving hate speech, while Serbian authorities do not even question Sesejls intentions even though they are well obvious what they are intended to do so. Serbia needs to own up for her mistakes for allowing Sesejl to hold large gatherings and spread hate. What Serbia should do is detain this individual, and give him a few lessons on humanity. (All those who are not Serbian do not have to be murdered by Sesejl's sick minded ideology)

Zoran Milanovic sounds like a Serbian name to me. What's his problem? I think a declaration condemning the likes of Gotovina,Mesic,Thompson et al would have give him at least a little of the moral high ground. More fittingly a recognition that he and his fellow " Hrvati " are indeed pursueing a policy of demonising and then brutalising their own Serbian population much of which they have already evicted illegally and by force. Now there's an argument for an apology but let's not hold our breath..

I haven't used the comments space of this site for some time. I see that Ari Gold is going from bad to worse.

Instead applauding the fact that the Albanian PM will be there, he presents it as a sad fact. The only sad fact here is the quality of those who pretend to be Serbia's "friends" in this forum.

Lenard said, "The best part no Chinese workers unlike Serbia flooded with them and their cheap goods low quality stores."

You are a weirdo, Lennie, and a racist.

Wow you can do math. Except your quasi stillborn state is not one of the 16 which were invited to participate. China, now the worlds largest economy, does not recognize your occupation. Bosnia's PM will attend (although they have 3 PM's-Bosniak, Serb and Croat idk which one of them will come). Albania will sadly probably be there.

Croatia wont and for some reason I don't think China will give a rats ass.
(Ari Gold, 28 November 2014 21:01)

I agree with you here. China will not give a rats ass about Croatia or Kosovo's occupation and for some reason I don't think most Chinese even know what or where Kosovo is without doing a Google search:)

Milanović also said on Friday that "a proper declaration on Šešelj's statements is a matter of culture" - and something that should follow "after the time and effort invested in protecting the Serb minority in Croatia."


Given the nationalist discourse of the authorities in Zagreb and the failure to prosecute anyone for the mass crimes committed during Operation Storm, I would humbly suggest that Milanovic might want to undertake a cost-benefit analysis of the "time and effort invested" as it doesn't appear to have produced much tangible good as the most recent AI report suggests.

@ lenard the ustas ..where do you get your facts from ?

I really had no idea the expectation was that Serbia should imprison seselj right away

(Lenard, 29 November 2014 20:43)
You see Serbia can still borrow money, but Kroatia cannot. Kroatia can only borrow if Brussels guarantees the debt.
“As for Croatian tourisem .... by 5% a year adding 600,000+ more tourist a year”
Lenny by now you have 400% increase, but last season tourist had to swim with all that flooding so how many trillions did that add to Kroatian economy?

“....two Chinese Air lines intrested in buying Croatian Air lines”
You no like Chinese so maybe you tell Milanovic no sell, but my little Ustaha Brussels orders Kroatia to sell everything or no more aid and then your Kroatia f****.
I give you little news, you Kroats have to sell ports and there debt with those ports that has nothing to do with them, but Chinese no stupid they no buy ports like that.
Lenny, I worked for Chinese until October and they know that Kroatia is totally broke and they wait for fire sale and get everything on cheap while Kroatians taxpayer foot the bill.

The Chinese 10 billion investment money has been already spoken for. 5 billion of it is earmarked for Croatia by the Chinese. Most of it is going to Croatian Rijeka port ,railway and road upgrades to central ,eastern Europe. The best part no Chinese workers unlike Serbia flooded with them and their cheap goods low quality stores.

This is great news, all we need is Kosova, Albania, and Bosnia on board to follow this method, and that is 25% of PM's who will not attend this meeting. This does send a strong message to Serbian government that we will not tolerate any Serbian radicals giving hate speech, while Serbian authorities do not even question Sesejls intentions even though they are well obvious what they are intended to do so. Serbia needs to own up for her mistakes for allowing Sesejl to hold large gatherings and spread hate. What Serbia should do is detain this individual, and give him a few lessons on humanity. (All those who are not Serbian do not have to be murdered by Sesejl's sick minded ideology)

Please, EU MPs, Croatian Government, everyone... Stop paying attention to this crazy old idiot Seselj. He and his hate-filled followers crave this attention.

Looks like Šešelj knows how to poke sore spots very well although I'm confused as to what he said was regarded as hate speech while considering that Croatia still celebrates genocide and what comes out of their singer Thomson seems much more provocative than that coming from Šešelj.

However, not attending a conference regarding investments with China is good news. Probably means more funding for Serbia. Croatia should stick with their partner Germany and keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Who cares what the ustas have to say.

Zoran Milanovic, the Croatian president with a name so Serbian, even Draza Mihailovic would give him the thumbs up.

Im guessing Zoran is having a cry because Seselj told the world how Croats are all Serbs who converted to Catholicism/Satanism. I guess Zoran forgot to change his name when he converted, silly mistake buddy! hahaha

What does he expect them to do? Dress up in Croatian football kits and kick his head in in the middle of Belgrade?The Serbian government are ignoring him, which is all they can do. Much as I despise Seselj and his hate filled drivel, he hasn't been convicted yet and the Hague haven't recalled him.

The Croatian PM won't attend? Oh no, that's tragic!! Who cares about Croatia anyway.

"I can't say you're going to be missed.
(Ari Gold, 28 November 2014 17:31)"

Ari's mom let him out the cellar after a few days hiatus :)

LOL Is that the reason Kroatia is broke? Those projects you mentioned, they are only ideas as the Chinese have not allocated a cent. This gathering in Belgrade is get the Chinese to invest and no Kroatia no investments. Anway hope tourism go this year? Up by 45%?
(sj, 28 November 2014 21:16) No that is why Serbia is broke it has a 5 billion trade deficit and a 2 billion a year borrowing. Just to pay mostly intrest of the other billions it borrowed. Then their is the lunatic Srpska entity criminal fantasy aka Greater war criminal Serbia in crimanely occupied Bosnia. A huge dead beat millstone tied arownd Serbias scrawny chicken nek. As for Croatian tourisem it is growing by 5% a year adding 600,000+ more tourist a year and billions to its economy. From Asia it is growing, by 100% from S Korea ,18% from China and 16% from Japan to Croatia. Their are two Chinese Air lines intrested in buying Croatian Air lines as they want to expand in to Europe. The goverment should not sell Croatian Airlines. It has started to make a profit last year and looks to make even a bigger profit this year. As for the city of Rijeka sea port it handeles about 5,000 ships a year. It is reaching its infrastructure capacity also roads, railways to central and eastern Europe from Rijeka. It needs a major upgrade for the volumes that are ever increasing. The Chinese use it as their maine port for exports in to good part of Europe. It is purely a buisness deal benifitting both parties.

While I have to give credit to Milanovic for at least being honest about Croatia's own delightfully homespun racism whenever a sign in Cyrillic is destroyed by a bunch of homeless war veterans, I really wonder what he expects officials in Belgrade to do other than what they've already done: ignore Seselj and hope the old "Duke" is dragged back to the Hague. Considering Croat leaders openly and happily welcome home war criminals with conveniently dropped charges as returning heroes with concerts, family fun days with Thompson providing singalongs, and over the top exhortations to Faith, Family, and Fatherland (usually associated with ethnic cleaning) also with Thompson providing singalongs, officials in Belgrade are behaving a hell of a lot better than their counterparts in the antemurale christianitatis.

Za dom call the kettle black.

I can't say you're going to be missed.

LOL Is that the reason Kroatia is broke? Those projects you mentioned, they are only ideas as the Chinese have not allocated a cent. This gathering in Belgrade is get the Chinese to invest and no Kroatia no investments. Anway hope tourism go this year? Up by 45%?

(Lenard, 29 November 2014 20:43)
You see Serbia can still borrow money, but Kroatia cannot. Kroatia can only borrow if Brussels guarantees the debt.
“As for Croatian tourisem .... by 5% a year adding 600,000+ more tourist a year”
Lenny by now you have 400% increase, but last season tourist had to swim with all that flooding so how many trillions did that add to Kroatian economy?

“....two Chinese Air lines intrested in buying Croatian Air lines”
You no like Chinese so maybe you tell Milanovic no sell, but my little Ustaha Brussels orders Kroatia to sell everything or no more aid and then your Kroatia f****.
I give you little news, you Kroats have to sell ports and there debt with those ports that has nothing to do with them, but Chinese no stupid they no buy ports like that.
Lenny, I worked for Chinese until October and they know that Kroatia is totally broke and they wait for fire sale and get everything on cheap while Kroatians taxpayer foot the bill.

Most of it is going to Croatian Rijeka port ,railway and road upgrades to central ,eastern Europe. The best part no Chinese workers unlike Serbia flooded with them and their cheap goods low quality stores.
(Lenard, 28 November 2014 17:16)

So in addition to selling more of your coastline to foreign investors thereby further reducing what's worth anything in Croatia to the people who live there, you're also as intolerant against Chinese?

Nice to know your insanity goes beyond the Serbian border. Stay wacky as ever and try not to bite the orderlies when they strap you in at night.

This is great news, all we need is Kosova, Albania, and Bosnia on board to follow this method, and that is 25% of PM's who will not
(Albanian, 28 November 2014 17:21)

Wow you can do math. Except your quasi stillborn state is not one of the 16 which were invited to participate. China, now the worlds largest economy, does not recognize your occupation. Bosnia's PM will attend (although they have 3 PM's-Bosniak, Serb and Croat idk which one of them will come). Albania will sadly probably be there.

Croatia wont and for some reason I don't think China will give a rats ass.

Zoran Milanovic sounds like a Serbian name to me. What's his problem? I think a declaration condemning the likes of Gotovina,Mesic,Thompson et al would have give him at least a little of the moral high ground. More fittingly a recognition that he and his fellow " Hrvati " are indeed pursueing a policy of demonising and then brutalising their own Serbian population much of which they have already evicted illegally and by force. Now there's an argument for an apology but let's not hold our breath..

Lenard said, "The best part no Chinese workers unlike Serbia flooded with them and their cheap goods low quality stores."

You are a weirdo, Lennie, and a racist.

@ lenard the ustas ..where do you get your facts from ?

@ albanian

Your comments are like an NGO pre-recorded propaganda answering machine.

ZA DUMMY!

It's not a snub if nobody really even cared in the first place. If Milanovic has a problem with Seselj, he should be snubbing the ICTY. However, he did serve 12 years in detention. No charges, just allegations. He is a free man for a reason and has every right to express his opinion just like Milanovic does.

Milanović also said on Friday that "a proper declaration on Šešelj's statements is a matter of culture" - and something that should follow "after the time and effort invested in protecting the Serb minority in Croatia."


Given the nationalist discourse of the authorities in Zagreb and the failure to prosecute anyone for the mass crimes committed during Operation Storm, I would humbly suggest that Milanovic might want to undertake a cost-benefit analysis of the "time and effort invested" as it doesn't appear to have produced much tangible good as the most recent AI report suggests.

I really had no idea the expectation was that Serbia should imprison seselj right away

I haven't used the comments space of this site for some time. I see that Ari Gold is going from bad to worse.

Instead applauding the fact that the Albanian PM will be there, he presents it as a sad fact. The only sad fact here is the quality of those who pretend to be Serbia's "friends" in this forum.

Not because of Seselj but taking care
what lady Merkel is thinking about
the summit.

Wow you can do math. Except your quasi stillborn state is not one of the 16 which were invited to participate. China, now the worlds largest economy, does not recognize your occupation. Bosnia's PM will attend (although they have 3 PM's-Bosniak, Serb and Croat idk which one of them will come). Albania will sadly probably be there.

Croatia wont and for some reason I don't think China will give a rats ass.
(Ari Gold, 28 November 2014 21:01)

I agree with you here. China will not give a rats ass about Croatia or Kosovo's occupation and for some reason I don't think most Chinese even know what or where Kosovo is without doing a Google search:)