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Wednesday, 15.10.2014.

09:06

Brother of Albanian PM denies involvement

The brother of Albanian PM Edi Rama, Olsi Rama, has been allowed to leave Serbia after he was reportedly detained on suspicion of causing a stadium incident.

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Leo

pre 9 godina

"I have news for you. Serbs aren't the only ones who don't like you." - Peggy

er .. Peggy dear, liking a country to BOMBING very different things all together.

icj1

pre 9 godina

We don't like you for a very good reason and that's your terror against us for decades before we were about kick your but. You got lucky because you know how to grovel and kiss arse and become useful to the US.
You won't always be so lucky and we won't be alone in kicking your arse.
(Peggy, 16 October 2014 12:46)

So, you finally got it and you'll also start to kiss arse :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

It wasn't just one "Albanian fan". It was the brother of your leader
(Peggy, 17 October 2014 02:57)

You have no evidence for that, but even if it were, he was not the superman - was still ONE fan lol

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@ ALBO TROLL....You posted:
"....and kiss arse and become useful to the US"

Timing is everything.

Read the article from b92 then you will know the real meaning of the "kissing arse".

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=10&dd=17&nav_id=91939means.

PS:
B92 by not posting my comments you remind me the censoring from Hoxha regime.
I do not offend swear or disrespect anyone here Serb or Albanian.

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@Peggy
I wrote on my first post: “DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.
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It wasn't just one "Albanian fan". It was the brother of your leader no less and what happened to the guy who tried to get rid of that rubbish? Yes, he didn't get out of it unpunished.
Your players came back as heroes so it is way more than just one fan.
This is not emotion talking, eventhough it causes emotion at this time in history, but common sense. Maybe you don't have common sense.
BTW, not wanting someone to challenge you in a forum like this doesn't mena they won't.
Don't forget this is a Serbian site and we will challenge you here. If you don't want to be challenged kindly move to an Albanian site and all will be fine.

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.
(ALB MCSE, 16 October 2014 16:37)

Just like the rumors of Serbs chasing Albanians kids into a river sparks three days of riots across Kosovo where thousands of Serbs were attacks.

Rumors!

As an Albanian, don't even attempt to lecture anyone else on emotions getting the best of someone. You have zero credibility on emotional stability or likability.

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@Peggy
I wrote on my first post: “DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.
I wished you can prove me wrong but again you didn’t.

Your comments are irrelevant to this case.
It shows that your emotion are taking over you logic or if you are not emotional then you just don’t have one.

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.

Let’s just wait and see the UEFA decision on this case which again it has nothing to do of with WHAT YOU LIKE OR NOT.

PS:
I don’t justify the Albanian fan drone action. Albanian team should be penalized by UEFA for that.

The rest is you know starting from the Serbian fans to how disgusting scene it is for your President and the member of his cabinets to seat for 41 min in the VIP section with and not leaving the stadium while the crowd was shouting nonstop “Kill the Albanians”

Respect for ourselves guides our morals; respect for others guides our manners.Laurence Sterne.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

I think that worse than the UEFA punishment is that Serbs showed to the world their real RACIST face that they have against Albanians.
(ALB MCSE, 15 October 2014 23:26)
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I have news for you. Serbs aren't the only ones who don't like you.
We don't like you for a very good reason and that's your terror against us for decades before we were about kick your but. You got lucky because you know how to grovel and kiss arse and become useful to the US.
You won't always be so lucky and we won't be alone in kicking your arse.

Milos

pre 9 godina

Problem is this wasn't an albanian flag like an australian flag or a german flag or any other nations flag it was a flag with a map including albania macedonia parts of greece kosovo and montenegro, and said greater albania. I don't know which country this is, probably because it doesn't exist but the players protecting this flag better be in a lot of trouble because it would set a dangerous precedent allowing such provocative flags to be flown and have players defending it. It could be a catalyst for very big problems. Im sure Macedonians wouldn't appreciate being told they will be in greater albania via a flag at a football match, the same flag that if fifa defends will ruin any credibility they have left. This alone should tell us enough about the personality and attitude of albanians, they cannot live in harmony with others they want to ethnically cleanse macedonia kosovo parts of greece and montenegro and have it as greater albania. Ask yourself when do they plan on doing this? I don't understand how some of the Albanian people come up with some of the comments here but I put it down to low itellect and a lot of brainwashing from low intellectual parents

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

albanians died for something, but you live for nothing
(ilia, 16 October 2014 00:37)

Typical Albanian BS response to anything when they feel paranoid and threatened, and Albanians are the most paranoid people in the Balkans. You Albanians are so predictable in your attitudes. You create a problem, blame the other for responding, and then go into this ridiculous idea that Albanians never did anything wrong. Your patriotism and self love is completely overshadowed by your violent hatred for everything else. Albanians never accomplished anything on their own except poverty, crime, and the lowest standards of living in Europe. There's absolutely nothing for an Albanian to be proud of and the worst part is Albanians know it, which explains why they make exaggerated statements like this and most of what's on B92 this past day as a way of compensating for their shortcomings.

ida

pre 9 godina

No Albanians started the killings and wars to land grab. It was the KLA which started it. The KLA also tortured and killed Albanians who didn't support them and this radicalized the population even more.

The Albanians instigated the war just like they instigated the latest incident.

Albanians' greed knows no bounds.

And despite wanting more land the Albanians still desperately emigrate abroad because other countries are much nicer.

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

ilia

pre 9 godina

Albanians died to protect their lives and homes, from serbian bullshit shovinism, worse then north korea who no one understands what and why they're doing...since have brains without intellect, what they are doing.....albanians died for something, but you live for nothing

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@TONY
DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.

To all the Serbs good Luck trying to explain to the UEFA judges that the Serbians Fans while shouting Death to Albanians, Kill the Albanians before the game started, while the Albanian National Hymn was being played and for 41 min during the game they had NO OTHER INTENTION other than to DO JUST THAT when they got into the soccer field.

Don’t mention here the “IVAN” who has been banned by UEFA not to attend soccer games and is walking in the field while the Serbian President sitting in VIP in the same stadium.

Will Albania be penalized from the drone flag? YES
Will Serbia will be penalized? YES and I hope they should get banned for the rest of EURO 2016.
However I think that worse than the UEFA punishment is that Serbs showed to the world their real RACIST face that they have against Albanians.

Samir

pre 9 godina

16. Unheard of anywhere in the world, police checks Albanian players' bags in the dressing room.
17. State official make racist statements to wards the visitors
18. Many starting players from the Serbian side displayed professionalism and were genuinely concerned about the well-being of the visiting players. Case in point Kolarov and Ivanovic.
19. Game was stopped for previous incident caused by local fans
Now, I need to add one more thing. What would have happened if stadium staff had collected the flag and moved it away professionally? No matter what some might think, I doubt that Mitrovic would have been disrespectful with the flag, but the Albanian player rushed to get it. What would have happened if after he took the flag to the bench and the game went on normally, with probably a yellow card for shoving. Two players had just gotten yellow cards for being physical a couple of minutes before. Clearly logic doesn't work.
Football is not a one-sided celebration. We all have to understand that the stadium doesn't belong to one side alone. No fans, no flags, abusive chants, animosity, and still on the right? Something is wrong here. Ultimately, there is someone else that will make decisions. Not Belgrade, not Tirana. The hatred in display doesn't do honor to the host nation. People need to cool down and politicians should take responsibility.
Hatred begets hatred. If "eye for an eye" is what someone preaches in either side, then nations risk becoming blind.

Govority Tirana

pre 9 godina

The insistence of the Serbian side to blame the launching of this "Quadcoper drone" to Olsi Rama, is getting silly, considering that there are photos of the banner taken in "Germia park" in Prishtina. So most likely this is the work of the ultras groups from Prishtina. Also the symbols chosen for the banner, make it unlikely for it to be originated in Albania. Isa Boletini was from Mitrovica, for example. If Edi Rama wanted to show a banner to the Serbian "spectators", it most likely would have been one of his painting that is so abstract that it has no meaning. Sorry, the symbols displayed on the banner, indicate who could have possibly been behind this and what they wanted to show or declare to the world, you don't need much brain to understand this. And the message does not seem compatible with Rama's style.

To keep insisting on fabricated stories about Olsi Rama, would make sense only if the Serbian media was interested to derail his brother's visit to Belgrade on Oct 22. We would be totally fine on this side of the fence, if Serbs don't want to improve relations. No hurt feelings.

There are also pictures of the police searching the player's bags for the remote control. Really??? Really Mr Serbian Policeman? Did you really think that the players on the pitch, where somehow ventrilocously both dominating the play and controlling the drone, while having every move on the camera? Or you just saw another opportunity to be an asshole?

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

FYI Olsi Rama the brother of Edi Rama is Orthodox Christian.
(Mirel from Albania)

I bet he is, all Albanians are krypto-Christians and pretending to be muslim jihadists.LOL.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Greater Albania: an ugly idea and an even uglier flag. This is about as close as they could ever get to making that nightmare come true. Let's see what Albanians will do if a flag of Greater Serbia is flown in Tirana.

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

How do you know for sure that the person who is responsible for the flag,is Albanian?
It could be serbian also.
Unless the police finish the investigantion better not start point fingers.
The behaviour of the serbian players was very professional,but you can not say the same for the serbian security forces.

...Ha,ha.What a surprise to see an Albanian jihadist carrying a US passport.All jihadists are CIA mercenaries....(Gotsefromohrid, 15 October 2014 11:39)...

FYI Olsi Rama the brother of Edi Rama is Orthodox Christian.

Dorian

pre 9 godina

Your need for fight is just stronger than your reasoning. Albanians played you well, and you felt in their trap as a stupid little mouse. Use your reasoning people of Serbia, whoever showed disrespect to you might as well pay for their action, but a bunch of hooligans beating the Albanian players was exactly the reaction those who trapped you wanted you to do. A flag? Really? For a flag and a stupid map in it you want to risk banning from European tournaments? You banned our fans because we did not provide to you the names, and what we see after : Ivan, in the stadium....really stupid! You want our names in a list, and you do not even check yours, and let animals be part of a game, shouting kill Albanians kill Albanians, A 33000 voice shouting kill Albanians in an international game, is far worse than a stupid piece of fabric flying around your heads.

I condemn violence, that's what you should have said in the first place. Then we could say we condemn provocations!

See you all in Elbasan, you are more than welcome to show your flags there, I am sure no one would beat your players for that.

Giani

pre 9 godina

Hey Guys Albanians screwed you once again. U still blame albanians for raising a flag at your nouse. when you screamed during the whole game Death to Albanians. What did you expect you call on someone death and they just raised their flag who is the uncivilised here.I let you guess! Shame on you.........

Tony

pre 9 godina

Sorry to say, but most comments are really ridiculous. No one says that no Albanian flags were allowed in the stadium. Please tell me where have you seen it before during a football competition?? It was an extremely beautiful message. We don't let the flag as it is normal to be? Ok, we'll find the way, anyway.

Said that, the Albanians were hit by the same serbs hooligans. Remember here Ivan, just to mention one. The players were hit also by security members of the stadium. How can you justify all this things ? Please tell me !!!

cetnik

pre 9 godina

Ismail Qemali raised the flag in Albania in 1912 when declaring independence and once again it was raised in Belgrade in a 2014. Only this time in front of 35000 plus serb fans.

God Bless the state of Greater Albania

berti

pre 9 godina

I have read in the web that there were massive chanting in the stadium "Kill albanians" during all the match time, even before that drone story. Now being an albanian I do not understand serbian. With all the respect to the serbian concerns about the drone may I ask is this true or not ? I am just curious...Please a yes or no. I assure that I do not hate any serb for whatever the answer be...

pemi

pre 9 godina

The Eagle with that map was a provocation.. I think it has come from some sick people whatever their nationality...
The football fans going into the pitch is unacceptable and need to be punished accordingly.
Edi Rama should visit Belgrade!!!!
Albania, Serbia and Kosovo need to develop good relations!!!!
People of the Balkans need growing up!!!!
(pemi, 15 October 2014 12:46)

pemi

pre 9 godina

The Eagle with that map was a provocation.. I think it has come from some sick people whatever their nationality...
The football fans going into the pitch is unacceptable and need to be punished accordingly.
Edi Rama should visit Belgrade!!!!
Albania, Serbia and Kosovo need to develop good relations!!!!
Needs of the Balkans need growing up!!!!

PEN

pre 9 godina

I have to say I am impressed with the conciliatory tone of some of the more reasonable Albanian commentators here. I think they realise that this was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and ruined what could have been an enjoyable match despite the heavy security and febrile atmosphere. Nobody expects Albanians and Serbs to love each other, but at least make an effort to get along as neighbours. The sick extremists on all sides determined to prolong this endless hatred must be rooted out. Everybody has to do their bit. So start now. When you're with your family and friends and you hear them make a disparaging comment about the 'other' side, tell them to stop and change their attitude. Hatred only burns you up inside. You can never move on.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"shame for serbia ane the fans ! is just a flag !"
(noka, 15 October 2014 09:44)

No, it's not a flag, it's a banner. There's no such country 'greater Albania', in case you don't know. If some stupid Albanian (or other nationality) hooligans would do some of this action, I would see it as a case of the usual football hooliganism which unfortunately existst. But sorry, the brother of a PM should know what he is doing and stay away from those stupid actions. Like other football hooligans who cause trouble and endanger the visitors in a stadium by throwing stones, showing insulting banners, or using fireworks he must be arrested and punished.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Tell me Comm, have you ever seen the banners that Serbs take to Kosovo during Vodivdan? don't you think they constitute provocation? or do you dismiss them as a few Cyrillic writings that cause no harm? how about the shoyuting of death to Albanians that verberated throughout the stadia? do they not deserve condemnation? though I agree, the person responsible for the drone has to arrested and tried for breaching security.

Lazar

pre 9 godina

Im just laughing at how puny and pathetic that flag looked flying around the stadium! Abit like albania itself really...puny and pathetic

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

Ha,ha.What a surprise to see an Albanian jihadist carrying a US passport.All jihadists are CIA mercenaries.I would love to see the Albanians trying their ambitions with their neighbours.They will be sent swimming to italy.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

everyone's talking about the banner but no one about the Albanian player who hit the Serbian. That's what provoked the fans pouring onto the pitch. It was a high tension match. That reaction could have happened if an Albanian player punched a Serbian one even without the extremely provocative banner.

Tasim

pre 9 godina

This is a planned scenario that is intended to cancel the Albanian PM visit to Serbia.
Europe should rethink it's position torwards Serbia and condition it with sentencing of all criminals that committed crimes in the Balkan wars.

dbader

pre 9 godina

"I would say shame on you Serbia. But you have no shame....
(tony, 15 October 2014 10:42)"

What a paradoxal statement, being racist while commenting on shame in others...

dori tirana

pre 9 godina

It was sport, not war. A banner, even if is provocative, could no be a pretext for such reaction. This mean that the illness of hate is still at high level between us. The solution is that people without this illness, but with value of civility and humanity, interact within two nations. We are neighbors, and we are all Adam and Eve's sons.I hope that in Tirana our people that have the illness of hate, don't disrupt the show. Respect for the other is the solution. We have to respect each other identity and each other simbols. Good bless Albania and Serbia!God bless all of us!

sj

pre 9 godina

I love these Albo dreamers who think a greater Albania will happen as if Germany and other EU countries are going close schools and hospitals to fund such a project. Albania is a third world country that cannot provide basic facilities to the people within current boundaries let alone expand to take in Kosovo or part or whole of Macedonia. It’s a pipe dream.
Let’s get it clear Brussels will kill every Albanian on this planet before this ever happens. Europe is getting very edgy with muslims/Albanians and it will not take too much to get Brussels to see Albanians = ISIL and this business on the football field only strengthens that fact.
I said before that fundamentalism was expanding in Kosovo and Albania and that is exactly what is happening. Jihadist from these regions are now fighting in Syria.

adi

pre 9 godina

I am from Albania. First of all I am sorry that it ended up like this. In my opinion we are neighbors and we have to live with each other and learn to respect each other. However, I think that the reaction of the Serb Ultras was exaggerated. At the end it was just a flag and the players in the field acted decently and could have solved the issue between them.
The security behaved badly. One or two Stuarts even attached the Albanian players. I want to thank Serbian captain for his behavior.
And a last thing; Albania is not a Muslim country, but a country with more than one religion and an neutral/agnostic/atheist majority.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

I'd be pretty surprised and in an odd way even impressed if Rama knew how to operate a drone. Undoubtedly it constitutes a security breach, so does throwing flares onto the stadium and have fans enter the pitch and throw punches. Kudos to Kolarov who seemed to act as peacemaker and was even seen having a go at a Serbian fan for his thuggery

scepticism

pre 9 godina

the police should had let the people to take care of the brother. Since he was so cool, to do this I am sure he could explain to the people he insulted his reasons. No need to hide, cowards do this, right?

noka

pre 9 godina

shame for serbia ane the fans ! is just a flag ! you should carry on and play the game .. ones more shows who Serbs are, but well done to the albanians players

Rolandi

pre 9 godina

It's amazing this little drone looks like have casue so much panic atack to Serbia for min I thought NATO come back to bamb serbia at list let hope serbia willing to Forget about what NATO did to serbia and remembers what this little drone have done to

adi

pre 9 godina

I am from Albania. First of all I am sorry that it ended up like this. In my opinion we are neighbors and we have to live with each other and learn to respect each other. However, I think that the reaction of the Serb Ultras was exaggerated. At the end it was just a flag and the players in the field acted decently and could have solved the issue between them.
The security behaved badly. One or two Stuarts even attached the Albanian players. I want to thank Serbian captain for his behavior.
And a last thing; Albania is not a Muslim country, but a country with more than one religion and an neutral/agnostic/atheist majority.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Tell me Comm, have you ever seen the banners that Serbs take to Kosovo during Vodivdan? don't you think they constitute provocation? or do you dismiss them as a few Cyrillic writings that cause no harm? how about the shoyuting of death to Albanians that verberated throughout the stadia? do they not deserve condemnation? though I agree, the person responsible for the drone has to arrested and tried for breaching security.

noka

pre 9 godina

shame for serbia ane the fans ! is just a flag ! you should carry on and play the game .. ones more shows who Serbs are, but well done to the albanians players

Lazar

pre 9 godina

Im just laughing at how puny and pathetic that flag looked flying around the stadium! Abit like albania itself really...puny and pathetic

PEN

pre 9 godina

I have to say I am impressed with the conciliatory tone of some of the more reasonable Albanian commentators here. I think they realise that this was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and ruined what could have been an enjoyable match despite the heavy security and febrile atmosphere. Nobody expects Albanians and Serbs to love each other, but at least make an effort to get along as neighbours. The sick extremists on all sides determined to prolong this endless hatred must be rooted out. Everybody has to do their bit. So start now. When you're with your family and friends and you hear them make a disparaging comment about the 'other' side, tell them to stop and change their attitude. Hatred only burns you up inside. You can never move on.

Rolandi

pre 9 godina

It's amazing this little drone looks like have casue so much panic atack to Serbia for min I thought NATO come back to bamb serbia at list let hope serbia willing to Forget about what NATO did to serbia and remembers what this little drone have done to

Dorian

pre 9 godina

Your need for fight is just stronger than your reasoning. Albanians played you well, and you felt in their trap as a stupid little mouse. Use your reasoning people of Serbia, whoever showed disrespect to you might as well pay for their action, but a bunch of hooligans beating the Albanian players was exactly the reaction those who trapped you wanted you to do. A flag? Really? For a flag and a stupid map in it you want to risk banning from European tournaments? You banned our fans because we did not provide to you the names, and what we see after : Ivan, in the stadium....really stupid! You want our names in a list, and you do not even check yours, and let animals be part of a game, shouting kill Albanians kill Albanians, A 33000 voice shouting kill Albanians in an international game, is far worse than a stupid piece of fabric flying around your heads.

I condemn violence, that's what you should have said in the first place. Then we could say we condemn provocations!

See you all in Elbasan, you are more than welcome to show your flags there, I am sure no one would beat your players for that.

dori tirana

pre 9 godina

It was sport, not war. A banner, even if is provocative, could no be a pretext for such reaction. This mean that the illness of hate is still at high level between us. The solution is that people without this illness, but with value of civility and humanity, interact within two nations. We are neighbors, and we are all Adam and Eve's sons.I hope that in Tirana our people that have the illness of hate, don't disrupt the show. Respect for the other is the solution. We have to respect each other identity and each other simbols. Good bless Albania and Serbia!God bless all of us!

cetnik

pre 9 godina

Ismail Qemali raised the flag in Albania in 1912 when declaring independence and once again it was raised in Belgrade in a 2014. Only this time in front of 35000 plus serb fans.

God Bless the state of Greater Albania

pemi

pre 9 godina

The Eagle with that map was a provocation.. I think it has come from some sick people whatever their nationality...
The football fans going into the pitch is unacceptable and need to be punished accordingly.
Edi Rama should visit Belgrade!!!!
Albania, Serbia and Kosovo need to develop good relations!!!!
Needs of the Balkans need growing up!!!!

sj

pre 9 godina

I love these Albo dreamers who think a greater Albania will happen as if Germany and other EU countries are going close schools and hospitals to fund such a project. Albania is a third world country that cannot provide basic facilities to the people within current boundaries let alone expand to take in Kosovo or part or whole of Macedonia. It’s a pipe dream.
Let’s get it clear Brussels will kill every Albanian on this planet before this ever happens. Europe is getting very edgy with muslims/Albanians and it will not take too much to get Brussels to see Albanians = ISIL and this business on the football field only strengthens that fact.
I said before that fundamentalism was expanding in Kosovo and Albania and that is exactly what is happening. Jihadist from these regions are now fighting in Syria.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

I'd be pretty surprised and in an odd way even impressed if Rama knew how to operate a drone. Undoubtedly it constitutes a security breach, so does throwing flares onto the stadium and have fans enter the pitch and throw punches. Kudos to Kolarov who seemed to act as peacemaker and was even seen having a go at a Serbian fan for his thuggery

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

Ha,ha.What a surprise to see an Albanian jihadist carrying a US passport.All jihadists are CIA mercenaries.I would love to see the Albanians trying their ambitions with their neighbours.They will be sent swimming to italy.

berti

pre 9 godina

I have read in the web that there were massive chanting in the stadium "Kill albanians" during all the match time, even before that drone story. Now being an albanian I do not understand serbian. With all the respect to the serbian concerns about the drone may I ask is this true or not ? I am just curious...Please a yes or no. I assure that I do not hate any serb for whatever the answer be...

Giani

pre 9 godina

Hey Guys Albanians screwed you once again. U still blame albanians for raising a flag at your nouse. when you screamed during the whole game Death to Albanians. What did you expect you call on someone death and they just raised their flag who is the uncivilised here.I let you guess! Shame on you.........

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"shame for serbia ane the fans ! is just a flag !"
(noka, 15 October 2014 09:44)

No, it's not a flag, it's a banner. There's no such country 'greater Albania', in case you don't know. If some stupid Albanian (or other nationality) hooligans would do some of this action, I would see it as a case of the usual football hooliganism which unfortunately existst. But sorry, the brother of a PM should know what he is doing and stay away from those stupid actions. Like other football hooligans who cause trouble and endanger the visitors in a stadium by throwing stones, showing insulting banners, or using fireworks he must be arrested and punished.

Tony

pre 9 godina

Sorry to say, but most comments are really ridiculous. No one says that no Albanian flags were allowed in the stadium. Please tell me where have you seen it before during a football competition?? It was an extremely beautiful message. We don't let the flag as it is normal to be? Ok, we'll find the way, anyway.

Said that, the Albanians were hit by the same serbs hooligans. Remember here Ivan, just to mention one. The players were hit also by security members of the stadium. How can you justify all this things ? Please tell me !!!

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

How do you know for sure that the person who is responsible for the flag,is Albanian?
It could be serbian also.
Unless the police finish the investigantion better not start point fingers.
The behaviour of the serbian players was very professional,but you can not say the same for the serbian security forces.

...Ha,ha.What a surprise to see an Albanian jihadist carrying a US passport.All jihadists are CIA mercenaries....(Gotsefromohrid, 15 October 2014 11:39)...

FYI Olsi Rama the brother of Edi Rama is Orthodox Christian.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

the police should had let the people to take care of the brother. Since he was so cool, to do this I am sure he could explain to the people he insulted his reasons. No need to hide, cowards do this, right?

Tasim

pre 9 godina

This is a planned scenario that is intended to cancel the Albanian PM visit to Serbia.
Europe should rethink it's position torwards Serbia and condition it with sentencing of all criminals that committed crimes in the Balkan wars.

Danilo

pre 9 godina

everyone's talking about the banner but no one about the Albanian player who hit the Serbian. That's what provoked the fans pouring onto the pitch. It was a high tension match. That reaction could have happened if an Albanian player punched a Serbian one even without the extremely provocative banner.

dbader

pre 9 godina

"I would say shame on you Serbia. But you have no shame....
(tony, 15 October 2014 10:42)"

What a paradoxal statement, being racist while commenting on shame in others...

pemi

pre 9 godina

The Eagle with that map was a provocation.. I think it has come from some sick people whatever their nationality...
The football fans going into the pitch is unacceptable and need to be punished accordingly.
Edi Rama should visit Belgrade!!!!
Albania, Serbia and Kosovo need to develop good relations!!!!
People of the Balkans need growing up!!!!
(pemi, 15 October 2014 12:46)

Govority Tirana

pre 9 godina

The insistence of the Serbian side to blame the launching of this "Quadcoper drone" to Olsi Rama, is getting silly, considering that there are photos of the banner taken in "Germia park" in Prishtina. So most likely this is the work of the ultras groups from Prishtina. Also the symbols chosen for the banner, make it unlikely for it to be originated in Albania. Isa Boletini was from Mitrovica, for example. If Edi Rama wanted to show a banner to the Serbian "spectators", it most likely would have been one of his painting that is so abstract that it has no meaning. Sorry, the symbols displayed on the banner, indicate who could have possibly been behind this and what they wanted to show or declare to the world, you don't need much brain to understand this. And the message does not seem compatible with Rama's style.

To keep insisting on fabricated stories about Olsi Rama, would make sense only if the Serbian media was interested to derail his brother's visit to Belgrade on Oct 22. We would be totally fine on this side of the fence, if Serbs don't want to improve relations. No hurt feelings.

There are also pictures of the police searching the player's bags for the remote control. Really??? Really Mr Serbian Policeman? Did you really think that the players on the pitch, where somehow ventrilocously both dominating the play and controlling the drone, while having every move on the camera? Or you just saw another opportunity to be an asshole?

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@TONY
DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.

To all the Serbs good Luck trying to explain to the UEFA judges that the Serbians Fans while shouting Death to Albanians, Kill the Albanians before the game started, while the Albanian National Hymn was being played and for 41 min during the game they had NO OTHER INTENTION other than to DO JUST THAT when they got into the soccer field.

Don’t mention here the “IVAN” who has been banned by UEFA not to attend soccer games and is walking in the field while the Serbian President sitting in VIP in the same stadium.

Will Albania be penalized from the drone flag? YES
Will Serbia will be penalized? YES and I hope they should get banned for the rest of EURO 2016.
However I think that worse than the UEFA punishment is that Serbs showed to the world their real RACIST face that they have against Albanians.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Greater Albania: an ugly idea and an even uglier flag. This is about as close as they could ever get to making that nightmare come true. Let's see what Albanians will do if a flag of Greater Serbia is flown in Tirana.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

FYI Olsi Rama the brother of Edi Rama is Orthodox Christian.
(Mirel from Albania)

I bet he is, all Albanians are krypto-Christians and pretending to be muslim jihadists.LOL.

Samir

pre 9 godina

16. Unheard of anywhere in the world, police checks Albanian players' bags in the dressing room.
17. State official make racist statements to wards the visitors
18. Many starting players from the Serbian side displayed professionalism and were genuinely concerned about the well-being of the visiting players. Case in point Kolarov and Ivanovic.
19. Game was stopped for previous incident caused by local fans
Now, I need to add one more thing. What would have happened if stadium staff had collected the flag and moved it away professionally? No matter what some might think, I doubt that Mitrovic would have been disrespectful with the flag, but the Albanian player rushed to get it. What would have happened if after he took the flag to the bench and the game went on normally, with probably a yellow card for shoving. Two players had just gotten yellow cards for being physical a couple of minutes before. Clearly logic doesn't work.
Football is not a one-sided celebration. We all have to understand that the stadium doesn't belong to one side alone. No fans, no flags, abusive chants, animosity, and still on the right? Something is wrong here. Ultimately, there is someone else that will make decisions. Not Belgrade, not Tirana. The hatred in display doesn't do honor to the host nation. People need to cool down and politicians should take responsibility.
Hatred begets hatred. If "eye for an eye" is what someone preaches in either side, then nations risk becoming blind.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

albanians died for something, but you live for nothing
(ilia, 16 October 2014 00:37)

Typical Albanian BS response to anything when they feel paranoid and threatened, and Albanians are the most paranoid people in the Balkans. You Albanians are so predictable in your attitudes. You create a problem, blame the other for responding, and then go into this ridiculous idea that Albanians never did anything wrong. Your patriotism and self love is completely overshadowed by your violent hatred for everything else. Albanians never accomplished anything on their own except poverty, crime, and the lowest standards of living in Europe. There's absolutely nothing for an Albanian to be proud of and the worst part is Albanians know it, which explains why they make exaggerated statements like this and most of what's on B92 this past day as a way of compensating for their shortcomings.

ida

pre 9 godina

No Albanians started the killings and wars to land grab. It was the KLA which started it. The KLA also tortured and killed Albanians who didn't support them and this radicalized the population even more.

The Albanians instigated the war just like they instigated the latest incident.

Albanians' greed knows no bounds.

And despite wanting more land the Albanians still desperately emigrate abroad because other countries are much nicer.

ilia

pre 9 godina

Albanians died to protect their lives and homes, from serbian bullshit shovinism, worse then north korea who no one understands what and why they're doing...since have brains without intellect, what they are doing.....albanians died for something, but you live for nothing

Milos

pre 9 godina

Problem is this wasn't an albanian flag like an australian flag or a german flag or any other nations flag it was a flag with a map including albania macedonia parts of greece kosovo and montenegro, and said greater albania. I don't know which country this is, probably because it doesn't exist but the players protecting this flag better be in a lot of trouble because it would set a dangerous precedent allowing such provocative flags to be flown and have players defending it. It could be a catalyst for very big problems. Im sure Macedonians wouldn't appreciate being told they will be in greater albania via a flag at a football match, the same flag that if fifa defends will ruin any credibility they have left. This alone should tell us enough about the personality and attitude of albanians, they cannot live in harmony with others they want to ethnically cleanse macedonia kosovo parts of greece and montenegro and have it as greater albania. Ask yourself when do they plan on doing this? I don't understand how some of the Albanian people come up with some of the comments here but I put it down to low itellect and a lot of brainwashing from low intellectual parents

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Peggy

pre 9 godina

I think that worse than the UEFA punishment is that Serbs showed to the world their real RACIST face that they have against Albanians.
(ALB MCSE, 15 October 2014 23:26)
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I have news for you. Serbs aren't the only ones who don't like you.
We don't like you for a very good reason and that's your terror against us for decades before we were about kick your but. You got lucky because you know how to grovel and kiss arse and become useful to the US.
You won't always be so lucky and we won't be alone in kicking your arse.

Leo

pre 9 godina

"I have news for you. Serbs aren't the only ones who don't like you." - Peggy

er .. Peggy dear, liking a country to BOMBING very different things all together.

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@Peggy
I wrote on my first post: “DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.
I wished you can prove me wrong but again you didn’t.

Your comments are irrelevant to this case.
It shows that your emotion are taking over you logic or if you are not emotional then you just don’t have one.

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.

Let’s just wait and see the UEFA decision on this case which again it has nothing to do of with WHAT YOU LIKE OR NOT.

PS:
I don’t justify the Albanian fan drone action. Albanian team should be penalized by UEFA for that.

The rest is you know starting from the Serbian fans to how disgusting scene it is for your President and the member of his cabinets to seat for 41 min in the VIP section with and not leaving the stadium while the crowd was shouting nonstop “Kill the Albanians”

Respect for ourselves guides our morals; respect for others guides our manners.Laurence Sterne.

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@ ALBO TROLL....You posted:
"....and kiss arse and become useful to the US"

Timing is everything.

Read the article from b92 then you will know the real meaning of the "kissing arse".

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=10&dd=17&nav_id=91939means.

PS:
B92 by not posting my comments you remind me the censoring from Hoxha regime.
I do not offend swear or disrespect anyone here Serb or Albanian.

icj1

pre 9 godina

It wasn't just one "Albanian fan". It was the brother of your leader
(Peggy, 17 October 2014 02:57)

You have no evidence for that, but even if it were, he was not the superman - was still ONE fan lol

icj1

pre 9 godina

We don't like you for a very good reason and that's your terror against us for decades before we were about kick your but. You got lucky because you know how to grovel and kiss arse and become useful to the US.
You won't always be so lucky and we won't be alone in kicking your arse.
(Peggy, 16 October 2014 12:46)

So, you finally got it and you'll also start to kiss arse :)

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.
(ALB MCSE, 16 October 2014 16:37)

Just like the rumors of Serbs chasing Albanians kids into a river sparks three days of riots across Kosovo where thousands of Serbs were attacks.

Rumors!

As an Albanian, don't even attempt to lecture anyone else on emotions getting the best of someone. You have zero credibility on emotional stability or likability.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@Peggy
I wrote on my first post: “DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.
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It wasn't just one "Albanian fan". It was the brother of your leader no less and what happened to the guy who tried to get rid of that rubbish? Yes, he didn't get out of it unpunished.
Your players came back as heroes so it is way more than just one fan.
This is not emotion talking, eventhough it causes emotion at this time in history, but common sense. Maybe you don't have common sense.
BTW, not wanting someone to challenge you in a forum like this doesn't mena they won't.
Don't forget this is a Serbian site and we will challenge you here. If you don't want to be challenged kindly move to an Albanian site and all will be fine.

noka

pre 9 godina

shame for serbia ane the fans ! is just a flag ! you should carry on and play the game .. ones more shows who Serbs are, but well done to the albanians players

sj

pre 9 godina

I love these Albo dreamers who think a greater Albania will happen as if Germany and other EU countries are going close schools and hospitals to fund such a project. Albania is a third world country that cannot provide basic facilities to the people within current boundaries let alone expand to take in Kosovo or part or whole of Macedonia. It’s a pipe dream.
Let’s get it clear Brussels will kill every Albanian on this planet before this ever happens. Europe is getting very edgy with muslims/Albanians and it will not take too much to get Brussels to see Albanians = ISIL and this business on the football field only strengthens that fact.
I said before that fundamentalism was expanding in Kosovo and Albania and that is exactly what is happening. Jihadist from these regions are now fighting in Syria.

Rolandi

pre 9 godina

It's amazing this little drone looks like have casue so much panic atack to Serbia for min I thought NATO come back to bamb serbia at list let hope serbia willing to Forget about what NATO did to serbia and remembers what this little drone have done to

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

Ha,ha.What a surprise to see an Albanian jihadist carrying a US passport.All jihadists are CIA mercenaries.I would love to see the Albanians trying their ambitions with their neighbours.They will be sent swimming to italy.

scepticism

pre 9 godina

the police should had let the people to take care of the brother. Since he was so cool, to do this I am sure he could explain to the people he insulted his reasons. No need to hide, cowards do this, right?

Lazar

pre 9 godina

Im just laughing at how puny and pathetic that flag looked flying around the stadium! Abit like albania itself really...puny and pathetic

Danilo

pre 9 godina

everyone's talking about the banner but no one about the Albanian player who hit the Serbian. That's what provoked the fans pouring onto the pitch. It was a high tension match. That reaction could have happened if an Albanian player punched a Serbian one even without the extremely provocative banner.

Tasim

pre 9 godina

This is a planned scenario that is intended to cancel the Albanian PM visit to Serbia.
Europe should rethink it's position torwards Serbia and condition it with sentencing of all criminals that committed crimes in the Balkan wars.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"shame for serbia ane the fans ! is just a flag !"
(noka, 15 October 2014 09:44)

No, it's not a flag, it's a banner. There's no such country 'greater Albania', in case you don't know. If some stupid Albanian (or other nationality) hooligans would do some of this action, I would see it as a case of the usual football hooliganism which unfortunately existst. But sorry, the brother of a PM should know what he is doing and stay away from those stupid actions. Like other football hooligans who cause trouble and endanger the visitors in a stadium by throwing stones, showing insulting banners, or using fireworks he must be arrested and punished.

dori tirana

pre 9 godina

It was sport, not war. A banner, even if is provocative, could no be a pretext for such reaction. This mean that the illness of hate is still at high level between us. The solution is that people without this illness, but with value of civility and humanity, interact within two nations. We are neighbors, and we are all Adam and Eve's sons.I hope that in Tirana our people that have the illness of hate, don't disrupt the show. Respect for the other is the solution. We have to respect each other identity and each other simbols. Good bless Albania and Serbia!God bless all of us!

cetnik

pre 9 godina

Ismail Qemali raised the flag in Albania in 1912 when declaring independence and once again it was raised in Belgrade in a 2014. Only this time in front of 35000 plus serb fans.

God Bless the state of Greater Albania

Giani

pre 9 godina

Hey Guys Albanians screwed you once again. U still blame albanians for raising a flag at your nouse. when you screamed during the whole game Death to Albanians. What did you expect you call on someone death and they just raised their flag who is the uncivilised here.I let you guess! Shame on you.........

Gotsefromohrid

pre 9 godina

FYI Olsi Rama the brother of Edi Rama is Orthodox Christian.
(Mirel from Albania)

I bet he is, all Albanians are krypto-Christians and pretending to be muslim jihadists.LOL.

Navi

pre 9 godina

Greater Albania: an ugly idea and an even uglier flag. This is about as close as they could ever get to making that nightmare come true. Let's see what Albanians will do if a flag of Greater Serbia is flown in Tirana.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

Tell me Comm, have you ever seen the banners that Serbs take to Kosovo during Vodivdan? don't you think they constitute provocation? or do you dismiss them as a few Cyrillic writings that cause no harm? how about the shoyuting of death to Albanians that verberated throughout the stadia? do they not deserve condemnation? though I agree, the person responsible for the drone has to arrested and tried for breaching security.

dbader

pre 9 godina

"I would say shame on you Serbia. But you have no shame....
(tony, 15 October 2014 10:42)"

What a paradoxal statement, being racist while commenting on shame in others...

adi

pre 9 godina

I am from Albania. First of all I am sorry that it ended up like this. In my opinion we are neighbors and we have to live with each other and learn to respect each other. However, I think that the reaction of the Serb Ultras was exaggerated. At the end it was just a flag and the players in the field acted decently and could have solved the issue between them.
The security behaved badly. One or two Stuarts even attached the Albanian players. I want to thank Serbian captain for his behavior.
And a last thing; Albania is not a Muslim country, but a country with more than one religion and an neutral/agnostic/atheist majority.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

I'd be pretty surprised and in an odd way even impressed if Rama knew how to operate a drone. Undoubtedly it constitutes a security breach, so does throwing flares onto the stadium and have fans enter the pitch and throw punches. Kudos to Kolarov who seemed to act as peacemaker and was even seen having a go at a Serbian fan for his thuggery

ilia

pre 9 godina

Albanians died to protect their lives and homes, from serbian bullshit shovinism, worse then north korea who no one understands what and why they're doing...since have brains without intellect, what they are doing.....albanians died for something, but you live for nothing

Dorian

pre 9 godina

Your need for fight is just stronger than your reasoning. Albanians played you well, and you felt in their trap as a stupid little mouse. Use your reasoning people of Serbia, whoever showed disrespect to you might as well pay for their action, but a bunch of hooligans beating the Albanian players was exactly the reaction those who trapped you wanted you to do. A flag? Really? For a flag and a stupid map in it you want to risk banning from European tournaments? You banned our fans because we did not provide to you the names, and what we see after : Ivan, in the stadium....really stupid! You want our names in a list, and you do not even check yours, and let animals be part of a game, shouting kill Albanians kill Albanians, A 33000 voice shouting kill Albanians in an international game, is far worse than a stupid piece of fabric flying around your heads.

I condemn violence, that's what you should have said in the first place. Then we could say we condemn provocations!

See you all in Elbasan, you are more than welcome to show your flags there, I am sure no one would beat your players for that.

Tony

pre 9 godina

Sorry to say, but most comments are really ridiculous. No one says that no Albanian flags were allowed in the stadium. Please tell me where have you seen it before during a football competition?? It was an extremely beautiful message. We don't let the flag as it is normal to be? Ok, we'll find the way, anyway.

Said that, the Albanians were hit by the same serbs hooligans. Remember here Ivan, just to mention one. The players were hit also by security members of the stadium. How can you justify all this things ? Please tell me !!!

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@TONY
DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.

To all the Serbs good Luck trying to explain to the UEFA judges that the Serbians Fans while shouting Death to Albanians, Kill the Albanians before the game started, while the Albanian National Hymn was being played and for 41 min during the game they had NO OTHER INTENTION other than to DO JUST THAT when they got into the soccer field.

Don’t mention here the “IVAN” who has been banned by UEFA not to attend soccer games and is walking in the field while the Serbian President sitting in VIP in the same stadium.

Will Albania be penalized from the drone flag? YES
Will Serbia will be penalized? YES and I hope they should get banned for the rest of EURO 2016.
However I think that worse than the UEFA punishment is that Serbs showed to the world their real RACIST face that they have against Albanians.

Mirel from Albania

pre 9 godina

How do you know for sure that the person who is responsible for the flag,is Albanian?
It could be serbian also.
Unless the police finish the investigantion better not start point fingers.
The behaviour of the serbian players was very professional,but you can not say the same for the serbian security forces.

...Ha,ha.What a surprise to see an Albanian jihadist carrying a US passport.All jihadists are CIA mercenaries....(Gotsefromohrid, 15 October 2014 11:39)...

FYI Olsi Rama the brother of Edi Rama is Orthodox Christian.

PEN

pre 9 godina

I have to say I am impressed with the conciliatory tone of some of the more reasonable Albanian commentators here. I think they realise that this was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and ruined what could have been an enjoyable match despite the heavy security and febrile atmosphere. Nobody expects Albanians and Serbs to love each other, but at least make an effort to get along as neighbours. The sick extremists on all sides determined to prolong this endless hatred must be rooted out. Everybody has to do their bit. So start now. When you're with your family and friends and you hear them make a disparaging comment about the 'other' side, tell them to stop and change their attitude. Hatred only burns you up inside. You can never move on.

pemi

pre 9 godina

The Eagle with that map was a provocation.. I think it has come from some sick people whatever their nationality...
The football fans going into the pitch is unacceptable and need to be punished accordingly.
Edi Rama should visit Belgrade!!!!
Albania, Serbia and Kosovo need to develop good relations!!!!
Needs of the Balkans need growing up!!!!

Milos

pre 9 godina

Problem is this wasn't an albanian flag like an australian flag or a german flag or any other nations flag it was a flag with a map including albania macedonia parts of greece kosovo and montenegro, and said greater albania. I don't know which country this is, probably because it doesn't exist but the players protecting this flag better be in a lot of trouble because it would set a dangerous precedent allowing such provocative flags to be flown and have players defending it. It could be a catalyst for very big problems. Im sure Macedonians wouldn't appreciate being told they will be in greater albania via a flag at a football match, the same flag that if fifa defends will ruin any credibility they have left. This alone should tell us enough about the personality and attitude of albanians, they cannot live in harmony with others they want to ethnically cleanse macedonia kosovo parts of greece and montenegro and have it as greater albania. Ask yourself when do they plan on doing this? I don't understand how some of the Albanian people come up with some of the comments here but I put it down to low itellect and a lot of brainwashing from low intellectual parents

Peggy

pre 9 godina

I think that worse than the UEFA punishment is that Serbs showed to the world their real RACIST face that they have against Albanians.
(ALB MCSE, 15 October 2014 23:26)
===================================
I have news for you. Serbs aren't the only ones who don't like you.
We don't like you for a very good reason and that's your terror against us for decades before we were about kick your but. You got lucky because you know how to grovel and kiss arse and become useful to the US.
You won't always be so lucky and we won't be alone in kicking your arse.

berti

pre 9 godina

I have read in the web that there were massive chanting in the stadium "Kill albanians" during all the match time, even before that drone story. Now being an albanian I do not understand serbian. With all the respect to the serbian concerns about the drone may I ask is this true or not ? I am just curious...Please a yes or no. I assure that I do not hate any serb for whatever the answer be...

pemi

pre 9 godina

The Eagle with that map was a provocation.. I think it has come from some sick people whatever their nationality...
The football fans going into the pitch is unacceptable and need to be punished accordingly.
Edi Rama should visit Belgrade!!!!
Albania, Serbia and Kosovo need to develop good relations!!!!
People of the Balkans need growing up!!!!
(pemi, 15 October 2014 12:46)

ida

pre 9 godina

No Albanians started the killings and wars to land grab. It was the KLA which started it. The KLA also tortured and killed Albanians who didn't support them and this radicalized the population even more.

The Albanians instigated the war just like they instigated the latest incident.

Albanians' greed knows no bounds.

And despite wanting more land the Albanians still desperately emigrate abroad because other countries are much nicer.

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@Peggy
I wrote on my first post: “DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.
I wished you can prove me wrong but again you didn’t.

Your comments are irrelevant to this case.
It shows that your emotion are taking over you logic or if you are not emotional then you just don’t have one.

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.

Let’s just wait and see the UEFA decision on this case which again it has nothing to do of with WHAT YOU LIKE OR NOT.

PS:
I don’t justify the Albanian fan drone action. Albanian team should be penalized by UEFA for that.

The rest is you know starting from the Serbian fans to how disgusting scene it is for your President and the member of his cabinets to seat for 41 min in the VIP section with and not leaving the stadium while the crowd was shouting nonstop “Kill the Albanians”

Respect for ourselves guides our morals; respect for others guides our manners.Laurence Sterne.

Govority Tirana

pre 9 godina

The insistence of the Serbian side to blame the launching of this "Quadcoper drone" to Olsi Rama, is getting silly, considering that there are photos of the banner taken in "Germia park" in Prishtina. So most likely this is the work of the ultras groups from Prishtina. Also the symbols chosen for the banner, make it unlikely for it to be originated in Albania. Isa Boletini was from Mitrovica, for example. If Edi Rama wanted to show a banner to the Serbian "spectators", it most likely would have been one of his painting that is so abstract that it has no meaning. Sorry, the symbols displayed on the banner, indicate who could have possibly been behind this and what they wanted to show or declare to the world, you don't need much brain to understand this. And the message does not seem compatible with Rama's style.

To keep insisting on fabricated stories about Olsi Rama, would make sense only if the Serbian media was interested to derail his brother's visit to Belgrade on Oct 22. We would be totally fine on this side of the fence, if Serbs don't want to improve relations. No hurt feelings.

There are also pictures of the police searching the player's bags for the remote control. Really??? Really Mr Serbian Policeman? Did you really think that the players on the pitch, where somehow ventrilocously both dominating the play and controlling the drone, while having every move on the camera? Or you just saw another opportunity to be an asshole?

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.
(ALB MCSE, 16 October 2014 16:37)

Just like the rumors of Serbs chasing Albanians kids into a river sparks three days of riots across Kosovo where thousands of Serbs were attacks.

Rumors!

As an Albanian, don't even attempt to lecture anyone else on emotions getting the best of someone. You have zero credibility on emotional stability or likability.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@Peggy
I wrote on my first post: “DON’T BOTHER….no hope for reasoning with anyone here.

Yet again the action of “ONE” Albanian fan with the drone can justify the action of “30 000” Serbian fans according to your “LIKEBLE” World Wide Serbian personality.
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It wasn't just one "Albanian fan". It was the brother of your leader no less and what happened to the guy who tried to get rid of that rubbish? Yes, he didn't get out of it unpunished.
Your players came back as heroes so it is way more than just one fan.
This is not emotion talking, eventhough it causes emotion at this time in history, but common sense. Maybe you don't have common sense.
BTW, not wanting someone to challenge you in a forum like this doesn't mena they won't.
Don't forget this is a Serbian site and we will challenge you here. If you don't want to be challenged kindly move to an Albanian site and all will be fine.

Samir

pre 9 godina

16. Unheard of anywhere in the world, police checks Albanian players' bags in the dressing room.
17. State official make racist statements to wards the visitors
18. Many starting players from the Serbian side displayed professionalism and were genuinely concerned about the well-being of the visiting players. Case in point Kolarov and Ivanovic.
19. Game was stopped for previous incident caused by local fans
Now, I need to add one more thing. What would have happened if stadium staff had collected the flag and moved it away professionally? No matter what some might think, I doubt that Mitrovic would have been disrespectful with the flag, but the Albanian player rushed to get it. What would have happened if after he took the flag to the bench and the game went on normally, with probably a yellow card for shoving. Two players had just gotten yellow cards for being physical a couple of minutes before. Clearly logic doesn't work.
Football is not a one-sided celebration. We all have to understand that the stadium doesn't belong to one side alone. No fans, no flags, abusive chants, animosity, and still on the right? Something is wrong here. Ultimately, there is someone else that will make decisions. Not Belgrade, not Tirana. The hatred in display doesn't do honor to the host nation. People need to cool down and politicians should take responsibility.
Hatred begets hatred. If "eye for an eye" is what someone preaches in either side, then nations risk becoming blind.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

albanians died for something, but you live for nothing
(ilia, 16 October 2014 00:37)

Typical Albanian BS response to anything when they feel paranoid and threatened, and Albanians are the most paranoid people in the Balkans. You Albanians are so predictable in your attitudes. You create a problem, blame the other for responding, and then go into this ridiculous idea that Albanians never did anything wrong. Your patriotism and self love is completely overshadowed by your violent hatred for everything else. Albanians never accomplished anything on their own except poverty, crime, and the lowest standards of living in Europe. There's absolutely nothing for an Albanian to be proud of and the worst part is Albanians know it, which explains why they make exaggerated statements like this and most of what's on B92 this past day as a way of compensating for their shortcomings.

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

Niko

pre 9 godina

I was there and I m still shocked . If the much was played in Albania it maybe 200-300-400 extreme people can chant kill Serbs and so on but not the all stadium never will happen in Albania . You Serbs already done and you don't know it because the Albanians didn't make fuss about it . When we invited the your head of church in Albania for the blessing of orthodox cathedral about 4 months ago same of people which came with him displaed the Serbian flag and other bunters like Kosovo is Serbia... And nothing happened . People of Tirana just ignored . People of Serbia grow up you got chip on your shoulder .

ALB MCSE

pre 9 godina

@ ALBO TROLL....You posted:
"....and kiss arse and become useful to the US"

Timing is everything.

Read the article from b92 then you will know the real meaning of the "kissing arse".

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2014&mm=10&dd=17&nav_id=91939means.

PS:
B92 by not posting my comments you remind me the censoring from Hoxha regime.
I do not offend swear or disrespect anyone here Serb or Albanian.

icj1

pre 9 godina

We don't like you for a very good reason and that's your terror against us for decades before we were about kick your but. You got lucky because you know how to grovel and kiss arse and become useful to the US.
You won't always be so lucky and we won't be alone in kicking your arse.
(Peggy, 16 October 2014 12:46)

So, you finally got it and you'll also start to kiss arse :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

It wasn't just one "Albanian fan". It was the brother of your leader
(Peggy, 17 October 2014 02:57)

You have no evidence for that, but even if it were, he was not the superman - was still ONE fan lol

Leo

pre 9 godina

"I have news for you. Serbs aren't the only ones who don't like you." - Peggy

er .. Peggy dear, liking a country to BOMBING very different things all together.