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Thaci won't be indicted for organ trafficking - daily

An upcoming report on allegations of human organ trafficking in Kosovo will say that there is no evidence of the crime, writes a daily.

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amusing but pathetic

pre 9 godina

Comm. Parrisson, 26 July 2014 09:43)
Yes Milosevic and company are charged with crimes and so was Haradinaj and of course he did not use tactics to delay his trial and he was found not guilty not once but twice.
But back to my statement the "bulk" of the trials at the Hague are for lower level members of the Serb police, military, and paramilitary.
As far as Thaci, in dick Marty's report, you know the holy shrine of all Serbs, he found no links of any crimes to Thaci but to those who were in his charge. He did say that it is difficult to think he did not have some knowledge but that was speculation.

But then we have you and others who are in the know and were witness to these crimes and know that witness intimidation and elimination were directly from Haradinaj(while he was in custody) and you have evidence of all the crimes that were committed even though you were not there. Or is your knowledge actually what you have heard coupled with your desire to know they are guilty?
As you and your peers are eager to point out the KLA was no match for the Serbian military, they were unorganized and loosely controlled and ill trained in contrast to the Serbian killing machine which was fine tuned and well organized(meaning they followed directions from above and not a bunch of rogue units) Just going on the claims from your camp but that usually changes according to which card you want to play victor or victim.

j

pre 9 godina

Serbia as a country, as a society needs an urgent intervention. Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from the Serb commenters here and the politicians, but it seems Serbia as a society is driven by myths, fairy tales, paranoia, conspiracy theories, and this constant unshakable need to see themselves as the savior of the world from Western and American evil. The absurdity of all of this comes from the fact that Serbia and the Serbs see themselves as innocent victims, as a country who has lost so much from all these well concocted evil western plans directed against her. Yet at the same time Serbia and the Serbs see themselves as triumphant winners who are so brave and so smart that they beat global superpowers in every battle and caused the evil west so much damage. This attitude is so silly, that its symptomatic to a society in great need of a reality check. Its a symptom of Serbia's escapist attempts and a need to soothe their national consciousness. This is done by escaping and not facing it past and hence believing in myths, conspiracy theories, the simultaneous duality of defenseless victim and triumphant winners. This is is what we see from Serbia and the Serb commenters everyday here on B92. If you think about it, this is the same we see from Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and lastly Putin's Russia. At the end its your choice. If that's where you as Serbs want to be it fine, but don't expect to be respected from the rest of the world and seen as a normal society.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Of course... Even you knew that there was no evidence!
(icj1, 25 July 2014 03:12)

No, even he knew that witnesses all got eliminated, like it often happens when someone dares to investigate in mafia. Hey, maybe Thaci will one day go to prison for tax evasion, like some other big mafia boss a bit longer ago in another country?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"But is it not true that the bulk of trials in the Hague against Serbs are against low level commanders who were acting on their own and the leaders are not indicted in these individual crimes?? "
(amusing but pathetic, 23 July 2014 22:30)
Eh? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Miloseciv, Karadzic, Mladic in the Hague? If you consider them 'low level commanders', I cannot help you. I'm sure Mladic and Milosevic never killed anyone in person, probably the same goes for the gentleman Mr. Thaci. For Haradinaj and other 'KLA heroes', I'm not so sure about.

Anyway, head of states, military commands, and commanders of paramilitary terror groups like the KLA or the Serbian gangs under Arkan bear responsibility, too.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Exactly what I have been telling you people.
(Ari Gold, 23 July 2014 16:50)

Of course... Even you knew that there was no evidence!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

How painful to be betrayed by your own country.
I am convinced that there is no bigger rubbish than Belgrade and sandly there are many who support them.
Serbian victims will not get justice and frankly why should any Serb fight for Serbia when Serbia doesn't fight for them.
To allow EU to take over and spit on the bones of those unfortunate Serbs is criminal and there is only one thing that will disloge these traitors. Time to kiss EU goodbye and hitch your wagons to Russia and BRICS.

Joachim

pre 9 godina

You get what you deserve!
Accepting EU and US to take the lead what really have you expected to happen? Furthermore, the small fish named will be judged by PRISTINA!
LMAO

Ks

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold, you shut your mouth right now! Adem Jashari was a hero! He fought against terrorism itself, but you call him a terrorist with no real reason. You are brainwashed, that's what you are! Your country blamed him for killing his own family! Sicko! Get your mind in line, see the real truth! You ignore the fact that Kosovo is a real state, even when I broke it down. You had still said that Kosovo should be Serbia, for no apparent reason! Do not blame it on a whole population of people who were treated like dog crap for 500 years! After helping you fight off the Turks, you only insult us! You are the ultimate troll! These people were only getting their land back, and what do you do?! "Oh, I'm going to be a retard and believe in someone who is the Hitler of the late 20th century!" Tell you what. You look into the conflict and see what REALLY happened. We Albanians are not perfect, but after sacrificing our own country to Western Europe, and helping them choose the religion they are free to choose and are not enforced upon, you should not treat us like 2nd class citizens! If you really wanted us to stay as a province, you shouldn't have treated Albanians are subhumans, but real people! You should give us the rights any sane human deserves. Well I know one thing, you are not sane, and you do not act human! A real sane human has feelings, remorse, but you do not seem to! Your country is sadly still a poor, sad place.

amusing but pathetic

pre 9 godina

Ari, Albo, Comm,
Funny how the people who have claimed that the KLA was no match to finely tuned killing machine of the Serbian army and that if it weren't for NATO they would not have had a chance, now come out and want to paint the KLA as a tightly controlled army that only followed the command of its leaders.
But is it not true that the bulk of trials in the Hague against Serbs are against low level commanders who were acting on their own and the leaders are not indicted in these individual crimes??
So I guess your claims are that the KLA was a better organized army that only followed the directions of their commanders while Serbia was just a loosely held network of rogue units that worked independently???
It is always funny how the whole story of Serbia changes with the need.
One day the master, the next day a victim, by the same story tellers no less.

Gollaku

pre 9 godina

Albo Troll Wrangler ; nice name Anyway ,sorry about that English writing ,but it was enough to understand the truth.Next time i will be more aware in writing

Something Stinks

pre 9 godina

Some links from reputable news sources that help explain why this thing stinks so much.

http://m.vice.com/en_ca/correspondent-confidential/strange-border-kidnappings-in-kosovo
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Amazing how the antiserb camp like to whitewash all non Serb crimes but scream hysterically on Serb crimes.

Albanian-Catholic

pre 9 godina

Serbs, please do everyone e favor and just shut the hell up.. The world is tired of your complaining, propaganda, and fabricated stories with no sufficient evidence.

@AriGold

I guess this is the right time for you Serbians who live abroad to come back and save what's left of your Cetnik patriots and ideas. I would like to see you try and accuse KLA of war crimes without any evidence. You know damn well you don't have what it takes to spin that dumb @$$ story around. Serbia has become a joke lately with these stories that can't even convince a 5 year old much less EU investigators.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

.WE new that KLA is liberation army who foght against CRIMINALS to kick them out once and for ever .organ trafficking and all that whats been mentioning is dying out and it will die for ever,speak to Dick Marti Serbia about it ,he is dying with that Propaganda too,he cheated you.Try and get the money back from him.So ex KLA was LIBERATION ARMY ,now is REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO ARMY.....
(Gollaku, 23 July 2014 15:09)

The best part about this gobbledygook, aside from your delightful attempt at writing in English, is that you honestly believe this BS.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Exactly what I have been telling you people. This case was over the minute Serbia's gov't gave this over to the EU from the UN. Why the hell would the EU convict someone of organ extracting when it was exactly the EU who financed this guy in the first place?

We all know Thaci would have been another Adem Jashiri had the West not financed his terrorist organization. Now, if the EU were to convict him of the million crimes we know he's committed from heroin trafficking, to organ harvesting to outright murders....they would be incriminating themselves.

Serbia becoming a prosperous, democratic country that stands up for justice and national interests are NOT compatible with EU membership that will never materialize anyway.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"He is setting the stage for what will follow. However, I think that the report will be 'politically correct' and that it will not contain the names of high-ranking officials, but a dozen junior officers of the KLA. It will not meet the expectations of Belgrade and that is likely the reason he visited the Serbian capital"

As usual, they only go after the little guys. The responsible big figures in the background are 'innocent' and of course never gave orders for these war crimes and murders. Strange 'leaders' they must have been, when their subordinate soldiers and commanders acted on their own.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

As expected, Thaci gets another stay-out-of-jail card from Washington, whom he owes his life, body, and soul to. No surprise there. As far as "lack of evidence", it's pretty easy not to find anything when years have allowed those committing the crimes to cover up and/or destroy anything incriminating. The KLA's been doing this long before Russian "patriots" in Ukraine started tampering with evidence.

And as expected, war crimes prosecutions for next year will probably target anyone at or below Limaj's pay grade. Thaci and Haradinaj are too valuable for the CIA to lose. Not that that's a bad thing though. Yes, justice will not be served, but Thaci's proven to be quite the useful tool in supporting the international community's drive to empower Kosovo's Serb community. Haradinaj's been thoroughly programmed as well in case the PDK gets booted out of power, so if we can't see them incarcerated, we can at least see them sign deals with Belgrade :)

Gollaku

pre 9 godina

Kosova - USA Don t worry mate Serbias last hope is dying as we new that right from the beginning.WE new that KLA is liberation army who foght against CRIMINALS to kick them out once and for ever .organ trafficking and all that whats been mentioning is dying out and it will die for ever,speak to Dick Marti Serbia about it ,he is dying with that Propaganda too,he cheated you.Try and get the money back from him.So ex KLA was LIBERATION ARMY ,now is REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO ARMY.....

Kosova-USA

pre 9 godina

"There is no evidence of trafficking in human organs in Kosovo, nor of organized crime and command responsibility of the central headquarters of the former Kosovo Liberation Army," the report to be presented next week by Clint Williamson will say, according to the article.

Serbia thought that the world is blind , and will convict others based on fabricated evidence!
So called Yellow House was not fit to live in it, let along to conduct sophisticated surgery.

Kosova-USA

pre 9 godina

"There is no evidence of trafficking in human organs in Kosovo, nor of organized crime and command responsibility of the central headquarters of the former Kosovo Liberation Army," the report to be presented next week by Clint Williamson will say, according to the article.

Serbia thought that the world is blind , and will convict others based on fabricated evidence!
So called Yellow House was not fit to live in it, let along to conduct sophisticated surgery.

Gollaku

pre 9 godina

Kosova - USA Don t worry mate Serbias last hope is dying as we new that right from the beginning.WE new that KLA is liberation army who foght against CRIMINALS to kick them out once and for ever .organ trafficking and all that whats been mentioning is dying out and it will die for ever,speak to Dick Marti Serbia about it ,he is dying with that Propaganda too,he cheated you.Try and get the money back from him.So ex KLA was LIBERATION ARMY ,now is REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO ARMY.....

Ks

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold, you shut your mouth right now! Adem Jashari was a hero! He fought against terrorism itself, but you call him a terrorist with no real reason. You are brainwashed, that's what you are! Your country blamed him for killing his own family! Sicko! Get your mind in line, see the real truth! You ignore the fact that Kosovo is a real state, even when I broke it down. You had still said that Kosovo should be Serbia, for no apparent reason! Do not blame it on a whole population of people who were treated like dog crap for 500 years! After helping you fight off the Turks, you only insult us! You are the ultimate troll! These people were only getting their land back, and what do you do?! "Oh, I'm going to be a retard and believe in someone who is the Hitler of the late 20th century!" Tell you what. You look into the conflict and see what REALLY happened. We Albanians are not perfect, but after sacrificing our own country to Western Europe, and helping them choose the religion they are free to choose and are not enforced upon, you should not treat us like 2nd class citizens! If you really wanted us to stay as a province, you shouldn't have treated Albanians are subhumans, but real people! You should give us the rights any sane human deserves. Well I know one thing, you are not sane, and you do not act human! A real sane human has feelings, remorse, but you do not seem to! Your country is sadly still a poor, sad place.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Exactly what I have been telling you people. This case was over the minute Serbia's gov't gave this over to the EU from the UN. Why the hell would the EU convict someone of organ extracting when it was exactly the EU who financed this guy in the first place?

We all know Thaci would have been another Adem Jashiri had the West not financed his terrorist organization. Now, if the EU were to convict him of the million crimes we know he's committed from heroin trafficking, to organ harvesting to outright murders....they would be incriminating themselves.

Serbia becoming a prosperous, democratic country that stands up for justice and national interests are NOT compatible with EU membership that will never materialize anyway.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

.WE new that KLA is liberation army who foght against CRIMINALS to kick them out once and for ever .organ trafficking and all that whats been mentioning is dying out and it will die for ever,speak to Dick Marti Serbia about it ,he is dying with that Propaganda too,he cheated you.Try and get the money back from him.So ex KLA was LIBERATION ARMY ,now is REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO ARMY.....
(Gollaku, 23 July 2014 15:09)

The best part about this gobbledygook, aside from your delightful attempt at writing in English, is that you honestly believe this BS.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"He is setting the stage for what will follow. However, I think that the report will be 'politically correct' and that it will not contain the names of high-ranking officials, but a dozen junior officers of the KLA. It will not meet the expectations of Belgrade and that is likely the reason he visited the Serbian capital"

As usual, they only go after the little guys. The responsible big figures in the background are 'innocent' and of course never gave orders for these war crimes and murders. Strange 'leaders' they must have been, when their subordinate soldiers and commanders acted on their own.

Something Stinks

pre 9 godina

Some links from reputable news sources that help explain why this thing stinks so much.

http://m.vice.com/en_ca/correspondent-confidential/strange-border-kidnappings-in-kosovo
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Amazing how the antiserb camp like to whitewash all non Serb crimes but scream hysterically on Serb crimes.

Albanian-Catholic

pre 9 godina

Serbs, please do everyone e favor and just shut the hell up.. The world is tired of your complaining, propaganda, and fabricated stories with no sufficient evidence.

@AriGold

I guess this is the right time for you Serbians who live abroad to come back and save what's left of your Cetnik patriots and ideas. I would like to see you try and accuse KLA of war crimes without any evidence. You know damn well you don't have what it takes to spin that dumb @$$ story around. Serbia has become a joke lately with these stories that can't even convince a 5 year old much less EU investigators.

Gollaku

pre 9 godina

Albo Troll Wrangler ; nice name Anyway ,sorry about that English writing ,but it was enough to understand the truth.Next time i will be more aware in writing

icj1

pre 9 godina

Exactly what I have been telling you people.
(Ari Gold, 23 July 2014 16:50)

Of course... Even you knew that there was no evidence!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

As expected, Thaci gets another stay-out-of-jail card from Washington, whom he owes his life, body, and soul to. No surprise there. As far as "lack of evidence", it's pretty easy not to find anything when years have allowed those committing the crimes to cover up and/or destroy anything incriminating. The KLA's been doing this long before Russian "patriots" in Ukraine started tampering with evidence.

And as expected, war crimes prosecutions for next year will probably target anyone at or below Limaj's pay grade. Thaci and Haradinaj are too valuable for the CIA to lose. Not that that's a bad thing though. Yes, justice will not be served, but Thaci's proven to be quite the useful tool in supporting the international community's drive to empower Kosovo's Serb community. Haradinaj's been thoroughly programmed as well in case the PDK gets booted out of power, so if we can't see them incarcerated, we can at least see them sign deals with Belgrade :)

amusing but pathetic

pre 9 godina

Ari, Albo, Comm,
Funny how the people who have claimed that the KLA was no match to finely tuned killing machine of the Serbian army and that if it weren't for NATO they would not have had a chance, now come out and want to paint the KLA as a tightly controlled army that only followed the command of its leaders.
But is it not true that the bulk of trials in the Hague against Serbs are against low level commanders who were acting on their own and the leaders are not indicted in these individual crimes??
So I guess your claims are that the KLA was a better organized army that only followed the directions of their commanders while Serbia was just a loosely held network of rogue units that worked independently???
It is always funny how the whole story of Serbia changes with the need.
One day the master, the next day a victim, by the same story tellers no less.

Joachim

pre 9 godina

You get what you deserve!
Accepting EU and US to take the lead what really have you expected to happen? Furthermore, the small fish named will be judged by PRISTINA!
LMAO

Peggy

pre 9 godina

How painful to be betrayed by your own country.
I am convinced that there is no bigger rubbish than Belgrade and sandly there are many who support them.
Serbian victims will not get justice and frankly why should any Serb fight for Serbia when Serbia doesn't fight for them.
To allow EU to take over and spit on the bones of those unfortunate Serbs is criminal and there is only one thing that will disloge these traitors. Time to kiss EU goodbye and hitch your wagons to Russia and BRICS.

j

pre 9 godina

Serbia as a country, as a society needs an urgent intervention. Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from the Serb commenters here and the politicians, but it seems Serbia as a society is driven by myths, fairy tales, paranoia, conspiracy theories, and this constant unshakable need to see themselves as the savior of the world from Western and American evil. The absurdity of all of this comes from the fact that Serbia and the Serbs see themselves as innocent victims, as a country who has lost so much from all these well concocted evil western plans directed against her. Yet at the same time Serbia and the Serbs see themselves as triumphant winners who are so brave and so smart that they beat global superpowers in every battle and caused the evil west so much damage. This attitude is so silly, that its symptomatic to a society in great need of a reality check. Its a symptom of Serbia's escapist attempts and a need to soothe their national consciousness. This is done by escaping and not facing it past and hence believing in myths, conspiracy theories, the simultaneous duality of defenseless victim and triumphant winners. This is is what we see from Serbia and the Serb commenters everyday here on B92. If you think about it, this is the same we see from Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and lastly Putin's Russia. At the end its your choice. If that's where you as Serbs want to be it fine, but don't expect to be respected from the rest of the world and seen as a normal society.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Of course... Even you knew that there was no evidence!
(icj1, 25 July 2014 03:12)

No, even he knew that witnesses all got eliminated, like it often happens when someone dares to investigate in mafia. Hey, maybe Thaci will one day go to prison for tax evasion, like some other big mafia boss a bit longer ago in another country?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"But is it not true that the bulk of trials in the Hague against Serbs are against low level commanders who were acting on their own and the leaders are not indicted in these individual crimes?? "
(amusing but pathetic, 23 July 2014 22:30)
Eh? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Miloseciv, Karadzic, Mladic in the Hague? If you consider them 'low level commanders', I cannot help you. I'm sure Mladic and Milosevic never killed anyone in person, probably the same goes for the gentleman Mr. Thaci. For Haradinaj and other 'KLA heroes', I'm not so sure about.

Anyway, head of states, military commands, and commanders of paramilitary terror groups like the KLA or the Serbian gangs under Arkan bear responsibility, too.

amusing but pathetic

pre 9 godina

Comm. Parrisson, 26 July 2014 09:43)
Yes Milosevic and company are charged with crimes and so was Haradinaj and of course he did not use tactics to delay his trial and he was found not guilty not once but twice.
But back to my statement the "bulk" of the trials at the Hague are for lower level members of the Serb police, military, and paramilitary.
As far as Thaci, in dick Marty's report, you know the holy shrine of all Serbs, he found no links of any crimes to Thaci but to those who were in his charge. He did say that it is difficult to think he did not have some knowledge but that was speculation.

But then we have you and others who are in the know and were witness to these crimes and know that witness intimidation and elimination were directly from Haradinaj(while he was in custody) and you have evidence of all the crimes that were committed even though you were not there. Or is your knowledge actually what you have heard coupled with your desire to know they are guilty?
As you and your peers are eager to point out the KLA was no match for the Serbian military, they were unorganized and loosely controlled and ill trained in contrast to the Serbian killing machine which was fine tuned and well organized(meaning they followed directions from above and not a bunch of rogue units) Just going on the claims from your camp but that usually changes according to which card you want to play victor or victim.

Kosova-USA

pre 9 godina

"There is no evidence of trafficking in human organs in Kosovo, nor of organized crime and command responsibility of the central headquarters of the former Kosovo Liberation Army," the report to be presented next week by Clint Williamson will say, according to the article.

Serbia thought that the world is blind , and will convict others based on fabricated evidence!
So called Yellow House was not fit to live in it, let along to conduct sophisticated surgery.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

.WE new that KLA is liberation army who foght against CRIMINALS to kick them out once and for ever .organ trafficking and all that whats been mentioning is dying out and it will die for ever,speak to Dick Marti Serbia about it ,he is dying with that Propaganda too,he cheated you.Try and get the money back from him.So ex KLA was LIBERATION ARMY ,now is REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO ARMY.....
(Gollaku, 23 July 2014 15:09)

The best part about this gobbledygook, aside from your delightful attempt at writing in English, is that you honestly believe this BS.

Ks

pre 9 godina

Ari Gold, you shut your mouth right now! Adem Jashari was a hero! He fought against terrorism itself, but you call him a terrorist with no real reason. You are brainwashed, that's what you are! Your country blamed him for killing his own family! Sicko! Get your mind in line, see the real truth! You ignore the fact that Kosovo is a real state, even when I broke it down. You had still said that Kosovo should be Serbia, for no apparent reason! Do not blame it on a whole population of people who were treated like dog crap for 500 years! After helping you fight off the Turks, you only insult us! You are the ultimate troll! These people were only getting their land back, and what do you do?! "Oh, I'm going to be a retard and believe in someone who is the Hitler of the late 20th century!" Tell you what. You look into the conflict and see what REALLY happened. We Albanians are not perfect, but after sacrificing our own country to Western Europe, and helping them choose the religion they are free to choose and are not enforced upon, you should not treat us like 2nd class citizens! If you really wanted us to stay as a province, you shouldn't have treated Albanians are subhumans, but real people! You should give us the rights any sane human deserves. Well I know one thing, you are not sane, and you do not act human! A real sane human has feelings, remorse, but you do not seem to! Your country is sadly still a poor, sad place.

Gollaku

pre 9 godina

Kosova - USA Don t worry mate Serbias last hope is dying as we new that right from the beginning.WE new that KLA is liberation army who foght against CRIMINALS to kick them out once and for ever .organ trafficking and all that whats been mentioning is dying out and it will die for ever,speak to Dick Marti Serbia about it ,he is dying with that Propaganda too,he cheated you.Try and get the money back from him.So ex KLA was LIBERATION ARMY ,now is REPUBLIC OF KOSOVO ARMY.....

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Exactly what I have been telling you people. This case was over the minute Serbia's gov't gave this over to the EU from the UN. Why the hell would the EU convict someone of organ extracting when it was exactly the EU who financed this guy in the first place?

We all know Thaci would have been another Adem Jashiri had the West not financed his terrorist organization. Now, if the EU were to convict him of the million crimes we know he's committed from heroin trafficking, to organ harvesting to outright murders....they would be incriminating themselves.

Serbia becoming a prosperous, democratic country that stands up for justice and national interests are NOT compatible with EU membership that will never materialize anyway.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

As expected, Thaci gets another stay-out-of-jail card from Washington, whom he owes his life, body, and soul to. No surprise there. As far as "lack of evidence", it's pretty easy not to find anything when years have allowed those committing the crimes to cover up and/or destroy anything incriminating. The KLA's been doing this long before Russian "patriots" in Ukraine started tampering with evidence.

And as expected, war crimes prosecutions for next year will probably target anyone at or below Limaj's pay grade. Thaci and Haradinaj are too valuable for the CIA to lose. Not that that's a bad thing though. Yes, justice will not be served, but Thaci's proven to be quite the useful tool in supporting the international community's drive to empower Kosovo's Serb community. Haradinaj's been thoroughly programmed as well in case the PDK gets booted out of power, so if we can't see them incarcerated, we can at least see them sign deals with Belgrade :)

Albanian-Catholic

pre 9 godina

Serbs, please do everyone e favor and just shut the hell up.. The world is tired of your complaining, propaganda, and fabricated stories with no sufficient evidence.

@AriGold

I guess this is the right time for you Serbians who live abroad to come back and save what's left of your Cetnik patriots and ideas. I would like to see you try and accuse KLA of war crimes without any evidence. You know damn well you don't have what it takes to spin that dumb @$$ story around. Serbia has become a joke lately with these stories that can't even convince a 5 year old much less EU investigators.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"He is setting the stage for what will follow. However, I think that the report will be 'politically correct' and that it will not contain the names of high-ranking officials, but a dozen junior officers of the KLA. It will not meet the expectations of Belgrade and that is likely the reason he visited the Serbian capital"

As usual, they only go after the little guys. The responsible big figures in the background are 'innocent' and of course never gave orders for these war crimes and murders. Strange 'leaders' they must have been, when their subordinate soldiers and commanders acted on their own.

amusing but pathetic

pre 9 godina

Ari, Albo, Comm,
Funny how the people who have claimed that the KLA was no match to finely tuned killing machine of the Serbian army and that if it weren't for NATO they would not have had a chance, now come out and want to paint the KLA as a tightly controlled army that only followed the command of its leaders.
But is it not true that the bulk of trials in the Hague against Serbs are against low level commanders who were acting on their own and the leaders are not indicted in these individual crimes??
So I guess your claims are that the KLA was a better organized army that only followed the directions of their commanders while Serbia was just a loosely held network of rogue units that worked independently???
It is always funny how the whole story of Serbia changes with the need.
One day the master, the next day a victim, by the same story tellers no less.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

How painful to be betrayed by your own country.
I am convinced that there is no bigger rubbish than Belgrade and sandly there are many who support them.
Serbian victims will not get justice and frankly why should any Serb fight for Serbia when Serbia doesn't fight for them.
To allow EU to take over and spit on the bones of those unfortunate Serbs is criminal and there is only one thing that will disloge these traitors. Time to kiss EU goodbye and hitch your wagons to Russia and BRICS.

Something Stinks

pre 9 godina

Some links from reputable news sources that help explain why this thing stinks so much.

http://m.vice.com/en_ca/correspondent-confidential/strange-border-kidnappings-in-kosovo
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/24/hashim-thaci-kosovo-organised-crime

Amazing how the antiserb camp like to whitewash all non Serb crimes but scream hysterically on Serb crimes.

Gollaku

pre 9 godina

Albo Troll Wrangler ; nice name Anyway ,sorry about that English writing ,but it was enough to understand the truth.Next time i will be more aware in writing

Joachim

pre 9 godina

You get what you deserve!
Accepting EU and US to take the lead what really have you expected to happen? Furthermore, the small fish named will be judged by PRISTINA!
LMAO

j

pre 9 godina

Serbia as a country, as a society needs an urgent intervention. Maybe I'm getting the wrong impression from the Serb commenters here and the politicians, but it seems Serbia as a society is driven by myths, fairy tales, paranoia, conspiracy theories, and this constant unshakable need to see themselves as the savior of the world from Western and American evil. The absurdity of all of this comes from the fact that Serbia and the Serbs see themselves as innocent victims, as a country who has lost so much from all these well concocted evil western plans directed against her. Yet at the same time Serbia and the Serbs see themselves as triumphant winners who are so brave and so smart that they beat global superpowers in every battle and caused the evil west so much damage. This attitude is so silly, that its symptomatic to a society in great need of a reality check. Its a symptom of Serbia's escapist attempts and a need to soothe their national consciousness. This is done by escaping and not facing it past and hence believing in myths, conspiracy theories, the simultaneous duality of defenseless victim and triumphant winners. This is is what we see from Serbia and the Serb commenters everyday here on B92. If you think about it, this is the same we see from Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and lastly Putin's Russia. At the end its your choice. If that's where you as Serbs want to be it fine, but don't expect to be respected from the rest of the world and seen as a normal society.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Exactly what I have been telling you people.
(Ari Gold, 23 July 2014 16:50)

Of course... Even you knew that there was no evidence!

amusing but pathetic

pre 9 godina

Comm. Parrisson, 26 July 2014 09:43)
Yes Milosevic and company are charged with crimes and so was Haradinaj and of course he did not use tactics to delay his trial and he was found not guilty not once but twice.
But back to my statement the "bulk" of the trials at the Hague are for lower level members of the Serb police, military, and paramilitary.
As far as Thaci, in dick Marty's report, you know the holy shrine of all Serbs, he found no links of any crimes to Thaci but to those who were in his charge. He did say that it is difficult to think he did not have some knowledge but that was speculation.

But then we have you and others who are in the know and were witness to these crimes and know that witness intimidation and elimination were directly from Haradinaj(while he was in custody) and you have evidence of all the crimes that were committed even though you were not there. Or is your knowledge actually what you have heard coupled with your desire to know they are guilty?
As you and your peers are eager to point out the KLA was no match for the Serbian military, they were unorganized and loosely controlled and ill trained in contrast to the Serbian killing machine which was fine tuned and well organized(meaning they followed directions from above and not a bunch of rogue units) Just going on the claims from your camp but that usually changes according to which card you want to play victor or victim.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

Of course... Even you knew that there was no evidence!
(icj1, 25 July 2014 03:12)

No, even he knew that witnesses all got eliminated, like it often happens when someone dares to investigate in mafia. Hey, maybe Thaci will one day go to prison for tax evasion, like some other big mafia boss a bit longer ago in another country?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

"But is it not true that the bulk of trials in the Hague against Serbs are against low level commanders who were acting on their own and the leaders are not indicted in these individual crimes?? "
(amusing but pathetic, 23 July 2014 22:30)
Eh? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Miloseciv, Karadzic, Mladic in the Hague? If you consider them 'low level commanders', I cannot help you. I'm sure Mladic and Milosevic never killed anyone in person, probably the same goes for the gentleman Mr. Thaci. For Haradinaj and other 'KLA heroes', I'm not so sure about.

Anyway, head of states, military commands, and commanders of paramilitary terror groups like the KLA or the Serbian gangs under Arkan bear responsibility, too.