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Church dignitary likens NATO to "Fourth Reich"

SPC Metropolitan of Montenegro Amfilohije has referred to the western military alliance NATO as "the Fourth Reich."

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Nikolle

pre 10 godina

what a dumb point Daniel. I was merely replying to the parallel between Nato and the Nazi Reich drawn by the priest. its not the first time things go above your head

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Nikolle, the NATO have been murdering people allower the world for the last 20 years but I guess a murdered Afghan, Iraqi, Serb, Somalian are less important for you then a French, Pole or a Czech.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Oh I see, essentially you were saying France, Poland Czech Republic and the UK are colonies. That's very interesting, however, this does not invalidate my point that NATO is not murdering the French the Poles, Britons or the Czechs unlike the Reich. So again, do come up with something better. As for them being colonies, sooey, it's a nonsense of an argument.
(Nikolle, 4 July 2013 10:39)
===========================
They don't have to murder them. They already control them.

"it's a nonsense of an argument.
Says you.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Oh I see, essentially you were saying France, Poland Czech Republic and the UK are colonies. That's very interesting, however, this does not invalidate my point that NATO is not murdering the French the Poles, Britons or the Czechs unlike the Reich. So again, do come up with something better. As for them being colonies, sooey, it's a nonsense of an argument.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

don't prevaricate Peggy. anyone can write what you wrote. however, i'm pretty certain that i know what you wanted to say. your argument was going to be about NATO soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and how they're being killed there. thing is, i don't buy that argument in the context of this article, so next time you want to take me to task, come up with something better
(Nikolle, 4 July 2013 00:30)
=====================
Just give up. Actually I didn't mean that at all.

What do you understand the meaning of "they have them where they want them" to be?
When someone has you where they want you it means they are in charge and you are in the submissive position.
Now think about it again.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

don't prevaricate Peggy. anyone can write what you wrote. however, i'm pretty certain that i know what you wanted to say. your argument was going to be about NATO soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and how they're being killed there. thing is, i don't buy that argument in the context of this article, so next time you want to take me to task, come up with something better

Peggy

pre 10 godina

i wasn't even trying to be witty. you said they have them where they want them, well where exactly is that? i'm not aware of NATO killing Poles, Czechs, French and the English. you obviously know different so educate me.
(Nikolle, 2 July 2013 23:37)
==============================
If you can't figure out what I said then do ask someone with a brain to explain it to you.
I am not here to teach you anything.
Next time if you don't understand a post, don't reply.

ida

pre 10 godina

He speaks the truth. But now I fear for him as the western powers use agents to harass and attack people like him. NATO killed journalists and shut down TV/radio stations which criticized it.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

i wasn't even trying to be witty. you said they have them where they want them, well where exactly is that? i'm not aware of NATO killing Poles, Czechs, French and the English. you obviously know different so educate me.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

" They have them exactly where they want them."

where? you mean in Poland, Czech Republic, France and England?
(Nikolle, 2 July 2013 16:28)
==========================

I don't think even you are that dumb not to understand. You think you are so clever with witty. News for you....not.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

what an exceptionally stupid comment. The Third Reich was an anti-semitic entity with zero regard for anyone non-Aryan, NATO is not murdering Poles, Czechs, French, English...
===========================
No need to. They have them exactly where they want them.

T

pre 10 godina

Without NATO and the EU we all be still living in the dark ages. There is no perfection within these organizations but I would rather be part of it then not. Besides, as his holiness Amfilohije knows all too well, most wars are and were fought over religion.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

what an exceptionally stupid comment. The Third Reich was an anti-semitic entity with zero regard for anyone non-Aryan, NATO is not murdering Poles, Czechs, French, English...whatever. if anyone took lessons from the reich its Serbia, they went on to give them close competition in the war criminals list

Fr. Morales

pre 10 godina

I don't recall the Bible talking about the Fourth Reich.
(Answerer, 1 July 2013 17:10)

What do you think all that writing about Sodom and Gommora and living hell and the Devil was about? What's your interpretation?

Nenad

pre 10 godina

More useless rhetoric from a cleric. So many of these popes, priests, bishops and patriarchs live in their own warped universe that is so far from reality that one seriously has to question their sanity. NATO surely isn't above reproach but this guy has no credibility as a critic of that alliance. As someone pointed out earlier, he openly backed 90s belligerents, and he presents himself as a humanitarian?! Anyway, just like all the other Serb "authority" figures attacking NATO, he comes across as a cry baby. Of course he's going to assail NATO - they defeated the army he blessed for battle! The truly sad thing is that clerics like Father Oblivious (not Father Obvious) still hold sway over Serbian society. For all their blessings and prayers, Sebia has lost battle after battle. Just compare the early 90s maps showing all of Serbia's territorial gains with those of today.

trudsaam

pre 10 godina

I am glad someone said this, every word is the truth - even if said by a Priest.

Judge content and policy (what he's saying) not character (who he is).

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Serbian people can exist without the church and god.
=================================
Dear Albanian farmer, maybe it's bet you leave that to the Serbian people to decide.
You worry about your Albanianism.
NATO has morphed into a very dark organisation. A monster which tries to control the world. NATO has been involved in far too many wars in recent history and all for dominance.

UltraBulgar OverLord

pre 10 godina

NATO came to be years before the Warsaw Pact, and is around after the fall of that Pact + USSR, think about that..

sj

pre 10 godina

What this man has said it very true. NATO was never created “to protect the Europeans against the nasty Soviets”, but simply to maintain and advance US interests – not more and nothing less.

Father Amfilohije is incorrect in saying that NATO is the Fourth Reich. Its in fact the Fifth Reich. But like their brother Adolf Hitler they have failed and what a failure it is too.

NATO is the largest battle group on earth and it has been defeated by tribesmen living in mud huts and cave and very soon it will announce “a great success in Afghanistan in brining democracy and freedom and its time to leave with a mission accomplished”. Does anyone recall that the US would not negotiate with the Taliban because they are terrorist????

Within a very short time of NATO leaving the current President will run for his life and the clock will wind back to 1990s as if nothing has changed.

Let there e be no doubt NATO has been defeated despite using superior western equipment and they threw everything at the insurgents with no success. NATO will be disbanded as you do not survive after such a terrible defeat and a European force will be established without the US.

UltraBulgar OverLord

pre 10 godina

NATO came to be years before the Warsaw Pact, and is around after the fall of that Pact + USSR, think about that..

Paul

pre 10 godina

He speaks the truth. NATO is a monster that needs to be dismantled and replaced with something new. It is a Cold War relic that has become something sick. We might even wonder what it was all about in the first place.

Notice the EU has no military. And NATO was never intended to defend a federation. Not all NATO members are EU members. What the EU needs is a new treaty between members to protect each other and secure a peace.

think about it

pre 10 godina

I guess he thinks the violence committed on Albanians with the churchs blessing WAS a humanitarian mission. Until the church renounces its part in the slaying, rape and expulsion of innocent people, it cannot have credibility on the issue of right and wrong.

marKo

pre 10 godina

The world has been free of the Soviet Union over two decades,almost an entire generation. So what then is the purpose of NATO now? Is it protecting us from the ghost of the Soviet Union or does it exist for its own purposes? If the latter, what are these purposes?

Answerer

pre 10 godina

To read some independent history books instead of reading the hate speech found in the bible would have helped this guy.
(Questioner, 1 July 2013 15:10)

I don't recall the Bible talking about the Fourth Reich.

Albanian Farmer

pre 10 godina

Maybe he should do what he does best. Preach the bible to those who believe that there is a man with white bear over the clouds.

Serbian people can exist without the church and god.

And maybe this priest is to old to accept the fact that to be Serbian one doesn't have to belong to Serbian Orthodox Church.

Questioner

pre 10 godina

To read some independent history books instead of reading the hate speech found in the bible would have helped this guy. But I guess, in his age, it's too late for anything.

Questioner

pre 10 godina

To read some independent history books instead of reading the hate speech found in the bible would have helped this guy. But I guess, in his age, it's too late for anything.

Paul

pre 10 godina

He speaks the truth. NATO is a monster that needs to be dismantled and replaced with something new. It is a Cold War relic that has become something sick. We might even wonder what it was all about in the first place.

Notice the EU has no military. And NATO was never intended to defend a federation. Not all NATO members are EU members. What the EU needs is a new treaty between members to protect each other and secure a peace.

marKo

pre 10 godina

The world has been free of the Soviet Union over two decades,almost an entire generation. So what then is the purpose of NATO now? Is it protecting us from the ghost of the Soviet Union or does it exist for its own purposes? If the latter, what are these purposes?

Answerer

pre 10 godina

To read some independent history books instead of reading the hate speech found in the bible would have helped this guy.
(Questioner, 1 July 2013 15:10)

I don't recall the Bible talking about the Fourth Reich.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Serbian people can exist without the church and god.
=================================
Dear Albanian farmer, maybe it's bet you leave that to the Serbian people to decide.
You worry about your Albanianism.
NATO has morphed into a very dark organisation. A monster which tries to control the world. NATO has been involved in far too many wars in recent history and all for dominance.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

what an exceptionally stupid comment. The Third Reich was an anti-semitic entity with zero regard for anyone non-Aryan, NATO is not murdering Poles, Czechs, French, English...
===========================
No need to. They have them exactly where they want them.

trudsaam

pre 10 godina

I am glad someone said this, every word is the truth - even if said by a Priest.

Judge content and policy (what he's saying) not character (who he is).

Peggy

pre 10 godina

" They have them exactly where they want them."

where? you mean in Poland, Czech Republic, France and England?
(Nikolle, 2 July 2013 16:28)
==========================

I don't think even you are that dumb not to understand. You think you are so clever with witty. News for you....not.

ida

pre 10 godina

He speaks the truth. But now I fear for him as the western powers use agents to harass and attack people like him. NATO killed journalists and shut down TV/radio stations which criticized it.

Albanian Farmer

pre 10 godina

Maybe he should do what he does best. Preach the bible to those who believe that there is a man with white bear over the clouds.

Serbian people can exist without the church and god.

And maybe this priest is to old to accept the fact that to be Serbian one doesn't have to belong to Serbian Orthodox Church.

sj

pre 10 godina

What this man has said it very true. NATO was never created “to protect the Europeans against the nasty Soviets”, but simply to maintain and advance US interests – not more and nothing less.

Father Amfilohije is incorrect in saying that NATO is the Fourth Reich. Its in fact the Fifth Reich. But like their brother Adolf Hitler they have failed and what a failure it is too.

NATO is the largest battle group on earth and it has been defeated by tribesmen living in mud huts and cave and very soon it will announce “a great success in Afghanistan in brining democracy and freedom and its time to leave with a mission accomplished”. Does anyone recall that the US would not negotiate with the Taliban because they are terrorist????

Within a very short time of NATO leaving the current President will run for his life and the clock will wind back to 1990s as if nothing has changed.

Let there e be no doubt NATO has been defeated despite using superior western equipment and they threw everything at the insurgents with no success. NATO will be disbanded as you do not survive after such a terrible defeat and a European force will be established without the US.

UltraBulgar OverLord

pre 10 godina

NATO came to be years before the Warsaw Pact, and is around after the fall of that Pact + USSR, think about that..

Nenad

pre 10 godina

More useless rhetoric from a cleric. So many of these popes, priests, bishops and patriarchs live in their own warped universe that is so far from reality that one seriously has to question their sanity. NATO surely isn't above reproach but this guy has no credibility as a critic of that alliance. As someone pointed out earlier, he openly backed 90s belligerents, and he presents himself as a humanitarian?! Anyway, just like all the other Serb "authority" figures attacking NATO, he comes across as a cry baby. Of course he's going to assail NATO - they defeated the army he blessed for battle! The truly sad thing is that clerics like Father Oblivious (not Father Obvious) still hold sway over Serbian society. For all their blessings and prayers, Sebia has lost battle after battle. Just compare the early 90s maps showing all of Serbia's territorial gains with those of today.

Fr. Morales

pre 10 godina

I don't recall the Bible talking about the Fourth Reich.
(Answerer, 1 July 2013 17:10)

What do you think all that writing about Sodom and Gommora and living hell and the Devil was about? What's your interpretation?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

what an exceptionally stupid comment. The Third Reich was an anti-semitic entity with zero regard for anyone non-Aryan, NATO is not murdering Poles, Czechs, French, English...whatever. if anyone took lessons from the reich its Serbia, they went on to give them close competition in the war criminals list

think about it

pre 10 godina

I guess he thinks the violence committed on Albanians with the churchs blessing WAS a humanitarian mission. Until the church renounces its part in the slaying, rape and expulsion of innocent people, it cannot have credibility on the issue of right and wrong.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

i wasn't even trying to be witty. you said they have them where they want them, well where exactly is that? i'm not aware of NATO killing Poles, Czechs, French and the English. you obviously know different so educate me.
(Nikolle, 2 July 2013 23:37)
==============================
If you can't figure out what I said then do ask someone with a brain to explain it to you.
I am not here to teach you anything.
Next time if you don't understand a post, don't reply.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

don't prevaricate Peggy. anyone can write what you wrote. however, i'm pretty certain that i know what you wanted to say. your argument was going to be about NATO soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and how they're being killed there. thing is, i don't buy that argument in the context of this article, so next time you want to take me to task, come up with something better
(Nikolle, 4 July 2013 00:30)
=====================
Just give up. Actually I didn't mean that at all.

What do you understand the meaning of "they have them where they want them" to be?
When someone has you where they want you it means they are in charge and you are in the submissive position.
Now think about it again.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Oh I see, essentially you were saying France, Poland Czech Republic and the UK are colonies. That's very interesting, however, this does not invalidate my point that NATO is not murdering the French the Poles, Britons or the Czechs unlike the Reich. So again, do come up with something better. As for them being colonies, sooey, it's a nonsense of an argument.
(Nikolle, 4 July 2013 10:39)
===========================
They don't have to murder them. They already control them.

"it's a nonsense of an argument.
Says you.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Nikolle, the NATO have been murdering people allower the world for the last 20 years but I guess a murdered Afghan, Iraqi, Serb, Somalian are less important for you then a French, Pole or a Czech.

UltraBulgar OverLord

pre 10 godina

NATO came to be years before the Warsaw Pact, and is around after the fall of that Pact + USSR, think about that..

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

i wasn't even trying to be witty. you said they have them where they want them, well where exactly is that? i'm not aware of NATO killing Poles, Czechs, French and the English. you obviously know different so educate me.

T

pre 10 godina

Without NATO and the EU we all be still living in the dark ages. There is no perfection within these organizations but I would rather be part of it then not. Besides, as his holiness Amfilohije knows all too well, most wars are and were fought over religion.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

don't prevaricate Peggy. anyone can write what you wrote. however, i'm pretty certain that i know what you wanted to say. your argument was going to be about NATO soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and how they're being killed there. thing is, i don't buy that argument in the context of this article, so next time you want to take me to task, come up with something better

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Oh I see, essentially you were saying France, Poland Czech Republic and the UK are colonies. That's very interesting, however, this does not invalidate my point that NATO is not murdering the French the Poles, Britons or the Czechs unlike the Reich. So again, do come up with something better. As for them being colonies, sooey, it's a nonsense of an argument.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

what a dumb point Daniel. I was merely replying to the parallel between Nato and the Nazi Reich drawn by the priest. its not the first time things go above your head

Questioner

pre 10 godina

To read some independent history books instead of reading the hate speech found in the bible would have helped this guy. But I guess, in his age, it's too late for anything.

Albanian Farmer

pre 10 godina

Maybe he should do what he does best. Preach the bible to those who believe that there is a man with white bear over the clouds.

Serbian people can exist without the church and god.

And maybe this priest is to old to accept the fact that to be Serbian one doesn't have to belong to Serbian Orthodox Church.

think about it

pre 10 godina

I guess he thinks the violence committed on Albanians with the churchs blessing WAS a humanitarian mission. Until the church renounces its part in the slaying, rape and expulsion of innocent people, it cannot have credibility on the issue of right and wrong.

Nenad

pre 10 godina

More useless rhetoric from a cleric. So many of these popes, priests, bishops and patriarchs live in their own warped universe that is so far from reality that one seriously has to question their sanity. NATO surely isn't above reproach but this guy has no credibility as a critic of that alliance. As someone pointed out earlier, he openly backed 90s belligerents, and he presents himself as a humanitarian?! Anyway, just like all the other Serb "authority" figures attacking NATO, he comes across as a cry baby. Of course he's going to assail NATO - they defeated the army he blessed for battle! The truly sad thing is that clerics like Father Oblivious (not Father Obvious) still hold sway over Serbian society. For all their blessings and prayers, Sebia has lost battle after battle. Just compare the early 90s maps showing all of Serbia's territorial gains with those of today.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

what an exceptionally stupid comment. The Third Reich was an anti-semitic entity with zero regard for anyone non-Aryan, NATO is not murdering Poles, Czechs, French, English...whatever. if anyone took lessons from the reich its Serbia, they went on to give them close competition in the war criminals list

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

i wasn't even trying to be witty. you said they have them where they want them, well where exactly is that? i'm not aware of NATO killing Poles, Czechs, French and the English. you obviously know different so educate me.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

don't prevaricate Peggy. anyone can write what you wrote. however, i'm pretty certain that i know what you wanted to say. your argument was going to be about NATO soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and how they're being killed there. thing is, i don't buy that argument in the context of this article, so next time you want to take me to task, come up with something better

trudsaam

pre 10 godina

I am glad someone said this, every word is the truth - even if said by a Priest.

Judge content and policy (what he's saying) not character (who he is).

T

pre 10 godina

Without NATO and the EU we all be still living in the dark ages. There is no perfection within these organizations but I would rather be part of it then not. Besides, as his holiness Amfilohije knows all too well, most wars are and were fought over religion.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

Oh I see, essentially you were saying France, Poland Czech Republic and the UK are colonies. That's very interesting, however, this does not invalidate my point that NATO is not murdering the French the Poles, Britons or the Czechs unlike the Reich. So again, do come up with something better. As for them being colonies, sooey, it's a nonsense of an argument.

sj

pre 10 godina

What this man has said it very true. NATO was never created “to protect the Europeans against the nasty Soviets”, but simply to maintain and advance US interests – not more and nothing less.

Father Amfilohije is incorrect in saying that NATO is the Fourth Reich. Its in fact the Fifth Reich. But like their brother Adolf Hitler they have failed and what a failure it is too.

NATO is the largest battle group on earth and it has been defeated by tribesmen living in mud huts and cave and very soon it will announce “a great success in Afghanistan in brining democracy and freedom and its time to leave with a mission accomplished”. Does anyone recall that the US would not negotiate with the Taliban because they are terrorist????

Within a very short time of NATO leaving the current President will run for his life and the clock will wind back to 1990s as if nothing has changed.

Let there e be no doubt NATO has been defeated despite using superior western equipment and they threw everything at the insurgents with no success. NATO will be disbanded as you do not survive after such a terrible defeat and a European force will be established without the US.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

what an exceptionally stupid comment. The Third Reich was an anti-semitic entity with zero regard for anyone non-Aryan, NATO is not murdering Poles, Czechs, French, English...
===========================
No need to. They have them exactly where they want them.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Serbian people can exist without the church and god.
=================================
Dear Albanian farmer, maybe it's bet you leave that to the Serbian people to decide.
You worry about your Albanianism.
NATO has morphed into a very dark organisation. A monster which tries to control the world. NATO has been involved in far too many wars in recent history and all for dominance.

ida

pre 10 godina

He speaks the truth. But now I fear for him as the western powers use agents to harass and attack people like him. NATO killed journalists and shut down TV/radio stations which criticized it.

Answerer

pre 10 godina

To read some independent history books instead of reading the hate speech found in the bible would have helped this guy.
(Questioner, 1 July 2013 15:10)

I don't recall the Bible talking about the Fourth Reich.

marKo

pre 10 godina

The world has been free of the Soviet Union over two decades,almost an entire generation. So what then is the purpose of NATO now? Is it protecting us from the ghost of the Soviet Union or does it exist for its own purposes? If the latter, what are these purposes?

UltraBulgar OverLord

pre 10 godina

NATO came to be years before the Warsaw Pact, and is around after the fall of that Pact + USSR, think about that..

Fr. Morales

pre 10 godina

I don't recall the Bible talking about the Fourth Reich.
(Answerer, 1 July 2013 17:10)

What do you think all that writing about Sodom and Gommora and living hell and the Devil was about? What's your interpretation?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

" They have them exactly where they want them."

where? you mean in Poland, Czech Republic, France and England?
(Nikolle, 2 July 2013 16:28)
==========================

I don't think even you are that dumb not to understand. You think you are so clever with witty. News for you....not.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

i wasn't even trying to be witty. you said they have them where they want them, well where exactly is that? i'm not aware of NATO killing Poles, Czechs, French and the English. you obviously know different so educate me.
(Nikolle, 2 July 2013 23:37)
==============================
If you can't figure out what I said then do ask someone with a brain to explain it to you.
I am not here to teach you anything.
Next time if you don't understand a post, don't reply.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Nikolle, the NATO have been murdering people allower the world for the last 20 years but I guess a murdered Afghan, Iraqi, Serb, Somalian are less important for you then a French, Pole or a Czech.

Paul

pre 10 godina

He speaks the truth. NATO is a monster that needs to be dismantled and replaced with something new. It is a Cold War relic that has become something sick. We might even wonder what it was all about in the first place.

Notice the EU has no military. And NATO was never intended to defend a federation. Not all NATO members are EU members. What the EU needs is a new treaty between members to protect each other and secure a peace.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

don't prevaricate Peggy. anyone can write what you wrote. however, i'm pretty certain that i know what you wanted to say. your argument was going to be about NATO soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and how they're being killed there. thing is, i don't buy that argument in the context of this article, so next time you want to take me to task, come up with something better
(Nikolle, 4 July 2013 00:30)
=====================
Just give up. Actually I didn't mean that at all.

What do you understand the meaning of "they have them where they want them" to be?
When someone has you where they want you it means they are in charge and you are in the submissive position.
Now think about it again.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

Oh I see, essentially you were saying France, Poland Czech Republic and the UK are colonies. That's very interesting, however, this does not invalidate my point that NATO is not murdering the French the Poles, Britons or the Czechs unlike the Reich. So again, do come up with something better. As for them being colonies, sooey, it's a nonsense of an argument.
(Nikolle, 4 July 2013 10:39)
===========================
They don't have to murder them. They already control them.

"it's a nonsense of an argument.
Says you.

UltraBulgar OverLord

pre 10 godina

NATO came to be years before the Warsaw Pact, and is around after the fall of that Pact + USSR, think about that..

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

what a dumb point Daniel. I was merely replying to the parallel between Nato and the Nazi Reich drawn by the priest. its not the first time things go above your head