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Sunday, 07.04.2013.

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Protest against Cyrillic alphabet held in Zagreb

A protest against the introduction of the Serbian language and the Cyrillic script in the Croatian town of Vukovar was held in Zagreb on Sunday.

Izvor: Tanjug

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CB

pre 12 godina

Serbian and Croatian – distinguished mainly,
if not only, by their alphabets, Cyrillic/Orthodox
and Latinate/Catholic – are mere dialects of one
and the same language, whose very name is now
a 'post-Jugoslav' political taboo.

In downtown Belgrade, one could hardly notice
a Serbian shop sign for all those Latinate – Croatian
ones adorning all those posh shops – and that's
how most Serbs like it. Likewise, most people in
Serbia have no slightest difficulty reading Croatian
texts. So why would the Serbs in Vukovar, Croatia,
ever need this utterly ludicrous fiction of ‘bilingual’
street signs – with exactly the same names –
but different alphabets, of course?

And the answer is that it's not so much the local Serbs
in Vukovar as the Croatian political class in Zagreb
that takes its orders from the even more parasitic
political operators in Brussels, rather than from
its own electorate.

Canadian Reader

pre 12 godina

Very conveniently Croats forget that in fact their ethnicity is slavic.
Anything else defines their identity as western oriented servants.

Elvis Klokanovic

pre 12 godina

I am a big fan of late 70's/early 80's Serbian rock music...Riblja Čorba in particular. Even for a big self-proclaimed Četnik like Bora - all their albums used latinica.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

btw, sj, I'm not saying Serbs SHOULD get rid of Cyrillic, I'm saying that they will, naturally, slowly, due to market forces (pizza flyer factor) end up using Latinic typefaces more and more, as they already do.

What's happening now will only keep happening.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

I don't see the connection, sj.

The Chinese have put a lot of work into their script to make it compatible with the computing age. Plus, they don't have a competing alternative, so I don't understand your point.

sj

pre 12 godina

Danilo, 8 April 2013 12:08)

So according to your logic the Chinese should all convert to latinic alphabet? All one billion of them?

trizo

pre 12 godina

When the Serbs in Croatia first started to separate themselves from the rest of the country they tried using cyrillic, and discovered they didn't know it. Its use was a political move then and trying to force it on the Croats is a political move now, to make it appear that, with cyrillic everywhere in public, that the Serb population is equal in number to the Croat. The guys in the diaspora office in Belgrade must be pleased with themselves.
(Amer, 8 April 2013 03:48)

"Amer" an expert of Croats and Serbs hahaha

In my view all Europeans; Bulgarians and Macedonians should drop it.
(femi, 8 April 2013 11:34)

Lucky your view means nada.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

femi,

Cyrillic is "ugly" because there has been very little development in its typography compared to Latinic.

Microsoft dedicated 100s of thousands of man-hours developing Latinic typography (fonts) in the 80s and 90s - studying what's easier to read on a computer screen vs what's easier to read on a paper.

Cyrillic will eventually die due to this - the pizza flyer factor. Open a new restaurant and you have 1000s upon 1000s of Latinic fonts to choose from and just a handfull of Cyrillic ones.

femi

pre 12 godina

Croats are doing a huge favour to the Serbs. Serbs should themselves protest against that very ugly alphabet; Russian stuff and embrace the Latin as the sole alphabet.

I do not know what the feeling of Serb people is behind the Cyrillic and why they use it but personally I find it wired and ugly stuff.

I personally at school I enjoyed learning serbo-craot. I found the language lot easier than English, until when on the third year when we started Cyrillic. I lost interest and did not care about, then and I still do not want to know today. I cannot use these ugly letters.

In my view all Europeans; Bulgarians and Macedonians should drop it.

Darko

pre 12 godina

Croatia should decide which alphabet it wants and doesn't want. It should be up to minorities to assimilate, and not weak EU pandering politicians to accommodate. What good is a Cyrillic alphabet in Croatia? When governments allow non assimilation, it spirals out of control and ends in disaster.

Bam Bam

pre 12 godina

No one is saying Serbs can't use the Cyrillic alphabet or learn their language. But when you start pushing boundries and demanding plastering every sign in the town with Cyrillic lettering, there's a problem. Once you allow this to occur then eventually further demands are made, where eventually fascist Chetnik clothing and Baja mali knindza becomes part of the norm in Easren Slavonija. This is what happens when left wing un-educated maggots in ZG who have no clue about preserving the national interest.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Just a question: Sebia will have the two alphabets too or this "minority rights standard" is only a mask for a new try of serbianization of the balkans?
(Leguska, 7 April 2013 20:26)
===========================================
FYI, Serbia has always used both alphabets, but if you worry about problems in that region then stop building cra&&y monuments to terrorists in Presevo.

Amer

pre 12 godina

When the Serbs in Croatia first started to separate themselves from the rest of the country they tried using cyrillic, and discovered they didn't know it. Its use was a political move then and trying to force it on the Croats is a political move now, to make it appear that, with cyrillic everywhere in public, that the Serb population is equal in number to the Croat. The guys in the diaspora office in Belgrade must be pleased with themselves.

Tony (in Berlin)

pre 12 godina

Another example of fascism alive and well in Croatia. Unbelievable. We do not want such racist elements in the EU. If the Croatian government cannot curb these fascist/nationalist tendencies in their country, then Croatia should not be admitted. Full stop.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Croatian Foreign Minister Vesna Pusić said earlier that it was important for “the protest to be free of chauvinistic outbursts”.
==================================
Glorifying the Nazi regime from WW2 is fine.

Croatia started the trouble there and now they play the victim and hate.

I wonder what their pals the Yanks think of all the Nazi songs at the protest.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Croats are overrazcting. Its just an alphabet and frnakly, it'd be good for Croatian kids to learn it as well. it wont make you Serb, it'll only mean you can read anoother scritand thats never a bad thing. as i've written before, i'd make learning cyrillic and elementary serbian compulsory for Albanian primary school children as well. we can't politicize everything

We Love Lenard's Antics

pre 12 godina

Lenny baby, you're amazing for first admitting what is legal: that a minority language can be used where the minority makes up more than one third of the population.

And then comparing Vukovar, some small nowhere city to Stalingrad. And tell me sweetheart, why hasn't Vukovar been REBUILT since the 1990s? Are you Croats obsessed with keeping everything destroyed so you can remind yourselves how your were victimized by Serbs? I thought you were tough and brave and ready to destroy RS and now you can't even afford to keep 75% of your "beautiful" country from decaying?

Thanks again for the entertainment. I hope you get paid for your stupidity.

bubba

pre 12 godina

for 1 Thompson has Serbian roots now it is found and second only 20,000 showed up for the protest from the 50,000 they expected, so its showing that the majority don't care anymore about this subject and are fed up with the hatred towards each other. The people want jobs and money not this same old talk and Thompson (Serb) has allot of money and does not give a dam about the people that are starving in the streets. Now to the little alvanins on here keep dreaming Serbs nor croats like you at all so just go away with your dumb talk....but north Epirus is going back to Greece and since 35% of alvania is none alvanian expect problems .lol.

be happy with yourself

pre 12 godina

If you really think about it and the origins of Cyrillic and latin scripts ...unless your an ignorant person ,who cares which script...being a Person from the West , Cyrillic is more exotic looking anyways .and I'm okay seeing signs in both Cyrillic and latin script underneath.

Leguska

pre 12 godina

Just a question: Sebia will have the two alphabets too or this "minority rights standard" is only a mask for a new try of serbianization of the balkans?

Anonymoose

pre 12 godina

I'm amazed at these language laws governing the use of scripts, etc. Who cares if something is in Cyrillic? Could be in Chinese for all I care.

rote

pre 12 godina

Lenard

What do you know about Stalingrad http://images.yandex.ru/#!/yandsearch?text=сталинград&uinfo=sw-734-sh-370-fw-948-fh-448-pd-1 or about your ancestors on the Eastern Front http://images.yandex.ru/#!/yandsearch?text=хорваты в составе вермахта&uinfo=sw-734-sh-370-fw-765-fh-448-pd-1 . If I were damned enough to be born a Croat I would definitely escape words like WW2 , srborez , Pavelic , ustasha , Nuremberg Tribunal , shame , Storm Operation and others. http://war2.name/xorvatskie-dobrovolcy/ Remember that unlike other peoples Croats were not obliged to fight us but offered the service by themselves. They came here to kill us. Not Serbs or Bosniaks but us who set you free from the Turks … This is who you are !

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Macedonian's should be outraged. The Ohrid Agreement brokered by our "friendly" western overlords requires the usage of minority script and language if a minority makes up 20% of population. I see they same law; if Serbs are the minority 33% threshold applies; if albanian minority than lower threshold to 20%. Another double standard.

Licanka

pre 12 godina

I'm surprised there is anyone left in Hrvatska that can read Cyrillic and even more surprised that Hrvati want to join the EU and taint their purity by association with other Europeans (or is it just Serbs they want to annihilate any trace of)!

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Ethnic minorities have the right to use their own language and script in municipalities, towns and districts where they make up 33 percent of the total population. According to the 2011 census, Serbs can exercise their right in 21 municipalities and two towns – Vukovar and Vrbovsko. There are 35 percent of Serbs in Vukovar. 65% don't agree Croatians and dozens of other nationalities that live in Vukovar. A very prosperous Croatian port city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar on the Danube river that has not recovered. That was devastated destroyed bombed worse then Stalingrad in WW2 by Serbia and the minority duped Serb of Croatia. Ivo and other clowns you will be soon kicked out by your EU BS all hoping to get rich on EU brain dead minion jobs their. This article tries to portray Croatians as fascist what happened to Vukovar and to 25% of Croatia.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Quite ridiculous and pointless. Danilo I saw the Dveri protest yesterday - a thousand people doesn't constitute a large protest. I actually felt sorry for some of those people, they just unwittingly sent a message to the government that it can do whatever it wants on Kosovo as few people will bother to turn out to protest.

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Enjoying Thompson's concert Danilo? You and captain frisco must be dancing and singing along with the other black shirted ustashe Thompson fans and having a gay old time.

Cheers!!

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Enjoying Thompson's concert Danilo? You and captain frisco must be dancing and singing along with the other black shirted ustashe Thompson fans and having a gay old time.

Cheers!!

rote

pre 12 godina

Lenard

What do you know about Stalingrad http://images.yandex.ru/#!/yandsearch?text=сталинград&uinfo=sw-734-sh-370-fw-948-fh-448-pd-1 or about your ancestors on the Eastern Front http://images.yandex.ru/#!/yandsearch?text=хорваты в составе вермахта&uinfo=sw-734-sh-370-fw-765-fh-448-pd-1 . If I were damned enough to be born a Croat I would definitely escape words like WW2 , srborez , Pavelic , ustasha , Nuremberg Tribunal , shame , Storm Operation and others. http://war2.name/xorvatskie-dobrovolcy/ Remember that unlike other peoples Croats were not obliged to fight us but offered the service by themselves. They came here to kill us. Not Serbs or Bosniaks but us who set you free from the Turks … This is who you are !

Licanka

pre 12 godina

I'm surprised there is anyone left in Hrvatska that can read Cyrillic and even more surprised that Hrvati want to join the EU and taint their purity by association with other Europeans (or is it just Serbs they want to annihilate any trace of)!

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Croatian Foreign Minister Vesna Pusić said earlier that it was important for “the protest to be free of chauvinistic outbursts”.
==================================
Glorifying the Nazi regime from WW2 is fine.

Croatia started the trouble there and now they play the victim and hate.

I wonder what their pals the Yanks think of all the Nazi songs at the protest.

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Macedonian's should be outraged. The Ohrid Agreement brokered by our "friendly" western overlords requires the usage of minority script and language if a minority makes up 20% of population. I see they same law; if Serbs are the minority 33% threshold applies; if albanian minority than lower threshold to 20%. Another double standard.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Quite ridiculous and pointless. Danilo I saw the Dveri protest yesterday - a thousand people doesn't constitute a large protest. I actually felt sorry for some of those people, they just unwittingly sent a message to the government that it can do whatever it wants on Kosovo as few people will bother to turn out to protest.

We Love Lenard's Antics

pre 12 godina

Lenny baby, you're amazing for first admitting what is legal: that a minority language can be used where the minority makes up more than one third of the population.

And then comparing Vukovar, some small nowhere city to Stalingrad. And tell me sweetheart, why hasn't Vukovar been REBUILT since the 1990s? Are you Croats obsessed with keeping everything destroyed so you can remind yourselves how your were victimized by Serbs? I thought you were tough and brave and ready to destroy RS and now you can't even afford to keep 75% of your "beautiful" country from decaying?

Thanks again for the entertainment. I hope you get paid for your stupidity.

be happy with yourself

pre 12 godina

If you really think about it and the origins of Cyrillic and latin scripts ...unless your an ignorant person ,who cares which script...being a Person from the West , Cyrillic is more exotic looking anyways .and I'm okay seeing signs in both Cyrillic and latin script underneath.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Croats are overrazcting. Its just an alphabet and frnakly, it'd be good for Croatian kids to learn it as well. it wont make you Serb, it'll only mean you can read anoother scritand thats never a bad thing. as i've written before, i'd make learning cyrillic and elementary serbian compulsory for Albanian primary school children as well. we can't politicize everything

bubba

pre 12 godina

for 1 Thompson has Serbian roots now it is found and second only 20,000 showed up for the protest from the 50,000 they expected, so its showing that the majority don't care anymore about this subject and are fed up with the hatred towards each other. The people want jobs and money not this same old talk and Thompson (Serb) has allot of money and does not give a dam about the people that are starving in the streets. Now to the little alvanins on here keep dreaming Serbs nor croats like you at all so just go away with your dumb talk....but north Epirus is going back to Greece and since 35% of alvania is none alvanian expect problems .lol.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Ethnic minorities have the right to use their own language and script in municipalities, towns and districts where they make up 33 percent of the total population. According to the 2011 census, Serbs can exercise their right in 21 municipalities and two towns – Vukovar and Vrbovsko. There are 35 percent of Serbs in Vukovar. 65% don't agree Croatians and dozens of other nationalities that live in Vukovar. A very prosperous Croatian port city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar on the Danube river that has not recovered. That was devastated destroyed bombed worse then Stalingrad in WW2 by Serbia and the minority duped Serb of Croatia. Ivo and other clowns you will be soon kicked out by your EU BS all hoping to get rich on EU brain dead minion jobs their. This article tries to portray Croatians as fascist what happened to Vukovar and to 25% of Croatia.

Anonymoose

pre 12 godina

I'm amazed at these language laws governing the use of scripts, etc. Who cares if something is in Cyrillic? Could be in Chinese for all I care.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Just a question: Sebia will have the two alphabets too or this "minority rights standard" is only a mask for a new try of serbianization of the balkans?
(Leguska, 7 April 2013 20:26)
===========================================
FYI, Serbia has always used both alphabets, but if you worry about problems in that region then stop building cra&&y monuments to terrorists in Presevo.

Tony (in Berlin)

pre 12 godina

Another example of fascism alive and well in Croatia. Unbelievable. We do not want such racist elements in the EU. If the Croatian government cannot curb these fascist/nationalist tendencies in their country, then Croatia should not be admitted. Full stop.

trizo

pre 12 godina

When the Serbs in Croatia first started to separate themselves from the rest of the country they tried using cyrillic, and discovered they didn't know it. Its use was a political move then and trying to force it on the Croats is a political move now, to make it appear that, with cyrillic everywhere in public, that the Serb population is equal in number to the Croat. The guys in the diaspora office in Belgrade must be pleased with themselves.
(Amer, 8 April 2013 03:48)

"Amer" an expert of Croats and Serbs hahaha

In my view all Europeans; Bulgarians and Macedonians should drop it.
(femi, 8 April 2013 11:34)

Lucky your view means nada.

sj

pre 12 godina

Danilo, 8 April 2013 12:08)

So according to your logic the Chinese should all convert to latinic alphabet? All one billion of them?

Leguska

pre 12 godina

Just a question: Sebia will have the two alphabets too or this "minority rights standard" is only a mask for a new try of serbianization of the balkans?

Bam Bam

pre 12 godina

No one is saying Serbs can't use the Cyrillic alphabet or learn their language. But when you start pushing boundries and demanding plastering every sign in the town with Cyrillic lettering, there's a problem. Once you allow this to occur then eventually further demands are made, where eventually fascist Chetnik clothing and Baja mali knindza becomes part of the norm in Easren Slavonija. This is what happens when left wing un-educated maggots in ZG who have no clue about preserving the national interest.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

femi,

Cyrillic is "ugly" because there has been very little development in its typography compared to Latinic.

Microsoft dedicated 100s of thousands of man-hours developing Latinic typography (fonts) in the 80s and 90s - studying what's easier to read on a computer screen vs what's easier to read on a paper.

Cyrillic will eventually die due to this - the pizza flyer factor. Open a new restaurant and you have 1000s upon 1000s of Latinic fonts to choose from and just a handfull of Cyrillic ones.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

btw, sj, I'm not saying Serbs SHOULD get rid of Cyrillic, I'm saying that they will, naturally, slowly, due to market forces (pizza flyer factor) end up using Latinic typefaces more and more, as they already do.

What's happening now will only keep happening.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

I don't see the connection, sj.

The Chinese have put a lot of work into their script to make it compatible with the computing age. Plus, they don't have a competing alternative, so I don't understand your point.

Darko

pre 12 godina

Croatia should decide which alphabet it wants and doesn't want. It should be up to minorities to assimilate, and not weak EU pandering politicians to accommodate. What good is a Cyrillic alphabet in Croatia? When governments allow non assimilation, it spirals out of control and ends in disaster.

femi

pre 12 godina

Croats are doing a huge favour to the Serbs. Serbs should themselves protest against that very ugly alphabet; Russian stuff and embrace the Latin as the sole alphabet.

I do not know what the feeling of Serb people is behind the Cyrillic and why they use it but personally I find it wired and ugly stuff.

I personally at school I enjoyed learning serbo-craot. I found the language lot easier than English, until when on the third year when we started Cyrillic. I lost interest and did not care about, then and I still do not want to know today. I cannot use these ugly letters.

In my view all Europeans; Bulgarians and Macedonians should drop it.

Canadian Reader

pre 12 godina

Very conveniently Croats forget that in fact their ethnicity is slavic.
Anything else defines their identity as western oriented servants.

Amer

pre 12 godina

When the Serbs in Croatia first started to separate themselves from the rest of the country they tried using cyrillic, and discovered they didn't know it. Its use was a political move then and trying to force it on the Croats is a political move now, to make it appear that, with cyrillic everywhere in public, that the Serb population is equal in number to the Croat. The guys in the diaspora office in Belgrade must be pleased with themselves.

Elvis Klokanovic

pre 12 godina

I am a big fan of late 70's/early 80's Serbian rock music...Riblja Čorba in particular. Even for a big self-proclaimed Četnik like Bora - all their albums used latinica.

CB

pre 12 godina

Serbian and Croatian – distinguished mainly,
if not only, by their alphabets, Cyrillic/Orthodox
and Latinate/Catholic – are mere dialects of one
and the same language, whose very name is now
a 'post-Jugoslav' political taboo.

In downtown Belgrade, one could hardly notice
a Serbian shop sign for all those Latinate – Croatian
ones adorning all those posh shops – and that's
how most Serbs like it. Likewise, most people in
Serbia have no slightest difficulty reading Croatian
texts. So why would the Serbs in Vukovar, Croatia,
ever need this utterly ludicrous fiction of ‘bilingual’
street signs – with exactly the same names –
but different alphabets, of course?

And the answer is that it's not so much the local Serbs
in Vukovar as the Croatian political class in Zagreb
that takes its orders from the even more parasitic
political operators in Brussels, rather than from
its own electorate.

Lenard

pre 12 godina

Ethnic minorities have the right to use their own language and script in municipalities, towns and districts where they make up 33 percent of the total population. According to the 2011 census, Serbs can exercise their right in 21 municipalities and two towns – Vukovar and Vrbovsko. There are 35 percent of Serbs in Vukovar. 65% don't agree Croatians and dozens of other nationalities that live in Vukovar. A very prosperous Croatian port city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vukovar on the Danube river that has not recovered. That was devastated destroyed bombed worse then Stalingrad in WW2 by Serbia and the minority duped Serb of Croatia. Ivo and other clowns you will be soon kicked out by your EU BS all hoping to get rich on EU brain dead minion jobs their. This article tries to portray Croatians as fascist what happened to Vukovar and to 25% of Croatia.

Leguska

pre 12 godina

Just a question: Sebia will have the two alphabets too or this "minority rights standard" is only a mask for a new try of serbianization of the balkans?

Dragan

pre 12 godina

Enjoying Thompson's concert Danilo? You and captain frisco must be dancing and singing along with the other black shirted ustashe Thompson fans and having a gay old time.

Cheers!!

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Croatian Foreign Minister Vesna Pusić said earlier that it was important for “the protest to be free of chauvinistic outbursts”.
==================================
Glorifying the Nazi regime from WW2 is fine.

Croatia started the trouble there and now they play the victim and hate.

I wonder what their pals the Yanks think of all the Nazi songs at the protest.

bganon

pre 12 godina

Quite ridiculous and pointless. Danilo I saw the Dveri protest yesterday - a thousand people doesn't constitute a large protest. I actually felt sorry for some of those people, they just unwittingly sent a message to the government that it can do whatever it wants on Kosovo as few people will bother to turn out to protest.

femi

pre 12 godina

Croats are doing a huge favour to the Serbs. Serbs should themselves protest against that very ugly alphabet; Russian stuff and embrace the Latin as the sole alphabet.

I do not know what the feeling of Serb people is behind the Cyrillic and why they use it but personally I find it wired and ugly stuff.

I personally at school I enjoyed learning serbo-craot. I found the language lot easier than English, until when on the third year when we started Cyrillic. I lost interest and did not care about, then and I still do not want to know today. I cannot use these ugly letters.

In my view all Europeans; Bulgarians and Macedonians should drop it.

Nikolle

pre 12 godina

Croats are overrazcting. Its just an alphabet and frnakly, it'd be good for Croatian kids to learn it as well. it wont make you Serb, it'll only mean you can read anoother scritand thats never a bad thing. as i've written before, i'd make learning cyrillic and elementary serbian compulsory for Albanian primary school children as well. we can't politicize everything

rote

pre 12 godina

Lenard

What do you know about Stalingrad http://images.yandex.ru/#!/yandsearch?text=сталинград&uinfo=sw-734-sh-370-fw-948-fh-448-pd-1 or about your ancestors on the Eastern Front http://images.yandex.ru/#!/yandsearch?text=хорваты в составе вермахта&uinfo=sw-734-sh-370-fw-765-fh-448-pd-1 . If I were damned enough to be born a Croat I would definitely escape words like WW2 , srborez , Pavelic , ustasha , Nuremberg Tribunal , shame , Storm Operation and others. http://war2.name/xorvatskie-dobrovolcy/ Remember that unlike other peoples Croats were not obliged to fight us but offered the service by themselves. They came here to kill us. Not Serbs or Bosniaks but us who set you free from the Turks … This is who you are !

bubba

pre 12 godina

for 1 Thompson has Serbian roots now it is found and second only 20,000 showed up for the protest from the 50,000 they expected, so its showing that the majority don't care anymore about this subject and are fed up with the hatred towards each other. The people want jobs and money not this same old talk and Thompson (Serb) has allot of money and does not give a dam about the people that are starving in the streets. Now to the little alvanins on here keep dreaming Serbs nor croats like you at all so just go away with your dumb talk....but north Epirus is going back to Greece and since 35% of alvania is none alvanian expect problems .lol.

Darko

pre 12 godina

Croatia should decide which alphabet it wants and doesn't want. It should be up to minorities to assimilate, and not weak EU pandering politicians to accommodate. What good is a Cyrillic alphabet in Croatia? When governments allow non assimilation, it spirals out of control and ends in disaster.

We Love Lenard's Antics

pre 12 godina

Lenny baby, you're amazing for first admitting what is legal: that a minority language can be used where the minority makes up more than one third of the population.

And then comparing Vukovar, some small nowhere city to Stalingrad. And tell me sweetheart, why hasn't Vukovar been REBUILT since the 1990s? Are you Croats obsessed with keeping everything destroyed so you can remind yourselves how your were victimized by Serbs? I thought you were tough and brave and ready to destroy RS and now you can't even afford to keep 75% of your "beautiful" country from decaying?

Thanks again for the entertainment. I hope you get paid for your stupidity.

Bam Bam

pre 12 godina

No one is saying Serbs can't use the Cyrillic alphabet or learn their language. But when you start pushing boundries and demanding plastering every sign in the town with Cyrillic lettering, there's a problem. Once you allow this to occur then eventually further demands are made, where eventually fascist Chetnik clothing and Baja mali knindza becomes part of the norm in Easren Slavonija. This is what happens when left wing un-educated maggots in ZG who have no clue about preserving the national interest.

Amer

pre 12 godina

When the Serbs in Croatia first started to separate themselves from the rest of the country they tried using cyrillic, and discovered they didn't know it. Its use was a political move then and trying to force it on the Croats is a political move now, to make it appear that, with cyrillic everywhere in public, that the Serb population is equal in number to the Croat. The guys in the diaspora office in Belgrade must be pleased with themselves.

Robert1899

pre 12 godina

Macedonian's should be outraged. The Ohrid Agreement brokered by our "friendly" western overlords requires the usage of minority script and language if a minority makes up 20% of population. I see they same law; if Serbs are the minority 33% threshold applies; if albanian minority than lower threshold to 20%. Another double standard.

Licanka

pre 12 godina

I'm surprised there is anyone left in Hrvatska that can read Cyrillic and even more surprised that Hrvati want to join the EU and taint their purity by association with other Europeans (or is it just Serbs they want to annihilate any trace of)!

be happy with yourself

pre 12 godina

If you really think about it and the origins of Cyrillic and latin scripts ...unless your an ignorant person ,who cares which script...being a Person from the West , Cyrillic is more exotic looking anyways .and I'm okay seeing signs in both Cyrillic and latin script underneath.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

btw, sj, I'm not saying Serbs SHOULD get rid of Cyrillic, I'm saying that they will, naturally, slowly, due to market forces (pizza flyer factor) end up using Latinic typefaces more and more, as they already do.

What's happening now will only keep happening.

Anonymoose

pre 12 godina

I'm amazed at these language laws governing the use of scripts, etc. Who cares if something is in Cyrillic? Could be in Chinese for all I care.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

femi,

Cyrillic is "ugly" because there has been very little development in its typography compared to Latinic.

Microsoft dedicated 100s of thousands of man-hours developing Latinic typography (fonts) in the 80s and 90s - studying what's easier to read on a computer screen vs what's easier to read on a paper.

Cyrillic will eventually die due to this - the pizza flyer factor. Open a new restaurant and you have 1000s upon 1000s of Latinic fonts to choose from and just a handfull of Cyrillic ones.

Danilo

pre 12 godina

I don't see the connection, sj.

The Chinese have put a lot of work into their script to make it compatible with the computing age. Plus, they don't have a competing alternative, so I don't understand your point.

Peggy

pre 12 godina

Just a question: Sebia will have the two alphabets too or this "minority rights standard" is only a mask for a new try of serbianization of the balkans?
(Leguska, 7 April 2013 20:26)
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FYI, Serbia has always used both alphabets, but if you worry about problems in that region then stop building cra&&y monuments to terrorists in Presevo.

trizo

pre 12 godina

When the Serbs in Croatia first started to separate themselves from the rest of the country they tried using cyrillic, and discovered they didn't know it. Its use was a political move then and trying to force it on the Croats is a political move now, to make it appear that, with cyrillic everywhere in public, that the Serb population is equal in number to the Croat. The guys in the diaspora office in Belgrade must be pleased with themselves.
(Amer, 8 April 2013 03:48)

"Amer" an expert of Croats and Serbs hahaha

In my view all Europeans; Bulgarians and Macedonians should drop it.
(femi, 8 April 2013 11:34)

Lucky your view means nada.

sj

pre 12 godina

Danilo, 8 April 2013 12:08)

So according to your logic the Chinese should all convert to latinic alphabet? All one billion of them?

Tony (in Berlin)

pre 12 godina

Another example of fascism alive and well in Croatia. Unbelievable. We do not want such racist elements in the EU. If the Croatian government cannot curb these fascist/nationalist tendencies in their country, then Croatia should not be admitted. Full stop.

Canadian Reader

pre 12 godina

Very conveniently Croats forget that in fact their ethnicity is slavic.
Anything else defines their identity as western oriented servants.

CB

pre 12 godina

Serbian and Croatian – distinguished mainly,
if not only, by their alphabets, Cyrillic/Orthodox
and Latinate/Catholic – are mere dialects of one
and the same language, whose very name is now
a 'post-Jugoslav' political taboo.

In downtown Belgrade, one could hardly notice
a Serbian shop sign for all those Latinate – Croatian
ones adorning all those posh shops – and that's
how most Serbs like it. Likewise, most people in
Serbia have no slightest difficulty reading Croatian
texts. So why would the Serbs in Vukovar, Croatia,
ever need this utterly ludicrous fiction of ‘bilingual’
street signs – with exactly the same names –
but different alphabets, of course?

And the answer is that it's not so much the local Serbs
in Vukovar as the Croatian political class in Zagreb
that takes its orders from the even more parasitic
political operators in Brussels, rather than from
its own electorate.

Elvis Klokanovic

pre 12 godina

I am a big fan of late 70's/early 80's Serbian rock music...Riblja Čorba in particular. Even for a big self-proclaimed Četnik like Bora - all their albums used latinica.