Nikolić, Jahjaga, Ashton meet in Brussels

The meeting between the two president is considered an “affirmation of the Belgrade-Priština dialogue at the top level”, European Commission (EC) officials have stressed.

The meeting will confirm that both sides and the EC are making an effort to strengthen regional cooperation.

European diplomatic sources told Beta news agency that Ashton was expected to point out the importance of the dialogue and normalization of relations for “Serbia and Kosovo’s EU perspective”.

Nothing more needs to be said! It's crystal clear for the Serbian government, Nikolic will be attending a meeting with another president! In this case, it will be with the president of Kosova!!! You serbia, may interpret it as u like?

This shows serbia recognized Kosova as independence one way or another if 2 presidents meet is done deal weather few of you serbs like it or not.

Thank you Serbia for finally agreeing on this meeting ,because deep down you know this was going to happen and now recognition is is the next and dare I say how long will that take

Negotiations are the essence of bilateral relations of two countries! I honestly can't understand how do you people think Serbia should solve this problem with Kosovo ?! Using bombs, bullets and knives? More dead children and youngsters? Instead of peacefully negotiations! I think this is the only way!

In another sign of progress, Serbia's government on Monday night named its first liaison officer to Pristina.

great picture, a perfect pair:)

If the customs deal and appointment of an ambassador werent obvious enough to some people that serbia has recognized kosov independence his certainly is and no one can argue otherwise

It´s like the Israeli Vice President for American Affairs (IVPAA), Barrack Hussein Obomber going to Tel aviv (again) for marching orders.

This spine-less, turncoat joke of a "Serb" does the same grovelling stunt under the German €USSR and accept any amount of humiliation and spit for nothing. When will the brainwashing end?

@Ari

you're right to a certain extent, this does not mean much at this point. At the same time there is no way you can deny the fact that Serbia is headed to recognizing Kosova. They have appointed representatives from both sides. They are meeting each other from the highest official level. There's not much left to do but recognize Kosova on serbias side. Even if Serbia does not recognize Kosova like German ambassador in Serbia said neither party can block each other from anything. So Serbia can get their way to EU who cares, Kosova will get its UN seat as well we all know Vuk Jeremic won't be there forever lol. So this is working for both sides. Stop dreaming Ari wake up.

All this is just a show, to tell 5 EU countries to recognise Kosova.
Also to be recognise by other countries the did not do so. Reason is to secure 2/3 of UN. And than Kosova will be part of UN. Who cares if Serbia recognise it or not. When Ari Gold will be president of Serbia he can claim Kosova again. We are going nowhere. We have all the time to wait.

Ari Gold- seriously Serbia is recognizing kosovo independence. The Serbian connection to Kosovo is over. It is just over. End of story. Serbia recognition of Kosovo independence happened in 2013.

I'm actually kind of glad the Albanian side does little more than obsess over what they think is the latest "proof" that Serbia has recognized Kosovo by being in the same room with one of their leaders. Suits me fine since if that's all they care about, extracting further concessions and enhancing local powers to Serb communities in the region should be all the more easier :)

At Ari Gold:
"for an independent country you guys are surely dependent on Serbia's corrupted elite to meet with you. The only thing that matters is the KLA never gets a seat as a UN member state. The rest of this sh*t is very open to change at any time."

1. It is Serbia that needs to meet with Kosovo in order to get "Datum".
2. Your today's corrupted elite were heroes before they took over Srbija, it was the "weak" Tadic and Cedo corrupted.
3. KLA doesn't exist anymore, only Kosovo Gov't that is seeking a seat in UN which according to Dacic "is up for discussion".
4. In Srbija all is very open to change any time, A narko-Prime Minister that changes colors every election, A radical minded President without any power to run on his policies, a powerless parliament, a corrupted police force, ...

Albo response: "ohhhh, loooook, now you have recognized Kosova, YAYAY"

Are you guys going to try this every meeting? We will reiterate, it's never going to happen. Get over it.

If Obama meets with the president of Kellogg cereal, it doesn't make Kellogg an independent country.

This shows serbia recognized Kosova as independence one way or another if 2 presidents meet is done deal weather few of you serbs like it or not.
(Bahri, 6 February 2013 15:40)

Not exactly. I know that's what you would love to believe but its not really the case. Yes this meeting should not take place as far as most Serbs are concerned. Not that I have a problem with this lady personally, she was not in the KLA and does not have extracted organ blood dripping from her heels, but meeting with Nikoliq should not have happened.

But in the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't change anything. Reason being, yes Serbia's gov't today is corrupt and traitorous but that's not to say it will forever be this way. In fact, if there were elections today there would be a likely chance the SNS would have to form a gov't with hardliners such as DSS and then these 'negotiations' would go no where.

What then? I mean jeeze, for an independent country you guys are surely dependent on Serbia's corrupted elite to meet with you. The only thing that matters is the KLA never gets a seat as a UN member state. The rest of this sh*t is very open to change at any time.

"If Obama meets with the president of Kellogg cereal, it doesn't make Kellogg an independent country?"

Yes, if Kellog seeks recognition, has the same level institution, and Obama meets its president with presidential and diplomatic credential. Imagine if the Kellog was a state in USA and they fight their way out, then both presidents meet! The only difference both presidents have presidential and academic capacity, Nikolic doesn't.

Oh please, spare me with all of the "meeting of two independent presidents" dodo. The purpose of this meeting was to show that Serbia is establishing "good neighborly relations", period. Why does anyone think it is anything more? Did Serbia formally recognize an independent Albanian State on its southern province, no. Lets just keep the dialogues going, it makes everyone behave relatively civil, and keeps a ton of politicians and diplomats in business, both the Balkans and the West. IMHO, the north of KiM will become a part of Serbia proper, and the Albanians will get a UN recognized, EU governed protectorate called The European Territory of Kosovo. Everyone will have their local self governments, and everyone will pretend to be happy.

“EU membership is our primary goal and we will do all a country and a nation with their pride can do,” Nikolić said.

I am sorry dude, but the last time Serbia tried to achieve anything with pride never worked out for them. Nikolic is better off coming out clean about everything it is in Serbia's best interest to do so rather than lying left and right. Serbs failed to realize that Tadic was a better leader for them in every way possible. All you hear is how he screwed up... This loving Serbian Vojislav Kostunica couldn't do a damn thing to prevent Kosova from declaring its independence what did Kostunica do after that? He resigned he quit on his on people and his country. Not he wants to voice his opinion every now and then when he is not on a hot seat anymore. Talk about a coward that is one right there. Slobodans administrator Screwed up we all know that, who is running Serbia as we speak??? Slobodans former administration so don't expect things to get better. You should have learned from the 90's and stop blaming the only real smart leader you once had Tadic.

Winston, Serbia needs these meetings and negotiations more than Kosova that's a fact. So Serbia will do everything it can to keep these negotiations going even if they don't benefit Serbia at this point. Stop trying to twist the topic here and comment about it like it is.

If Obama meets with the president of Kellogg cereal, it doesn't make Kellogg an independent country.
(Steve B., 6 February 2013 22:10)
That was soooo clever, now we know why it is so easy for the Serbian govt to pull the wool over your eyes.

Nikolić - Jahjaga

I bet no one was thinking about possible sex here, before me.

Nooo, Nikolic would not agree.. I mean sure.. Or not?

Nikolic meeting with Jahaga is total and complete recognition of Kosovo independence and everyone knows this. It is known to all now that Serbia is a strident support of Kosovo independence.

Platform and resolution about Kosovo is a frame for dialog but at the same time good way to convince Europe that Serbs put all effort to continue dialog and support Serbs from Kosovo.

All this is just a show, to tell 5 EU countries to recognise Kosova.
Also to be recognise by other countries the did not do so. Reason is to secure 2/3 of UN. And than Kosova will be part of UN. Who cares if Serbia recognise it or not. When Ari Gold will be president of Serbia he can claim Kosova again. We are going nowhere. We have all the time to wait.
(gjon fusha, 6 February 2013 20:51)

Fusha I can tell you were a pupil of Hoxha's education system clearly. First of all, the UN requires approval from the security council before a territory becomes a full-fledged member. Secondly, considering Spain has separatist problems it will probably never recognize the occupation as legitimate and Cyprus wouldn't recognize it even if Serbia's traitorous gov't decided to. (both are also members of NATO mind you).


"we are going nowhere" is kind of funny because the undeniable reality is, as long as Kosovo i Metohija's status continues to be in limbo, any Albanian will seek the chance to leave the province in search of a life in a non-disputed territory where they can make a better living. You say you aren't going anywhere, but chances are you have already left.

President Ari Gold aha, has a nice ring to it.

1. It is Serbia that needs to meet with Kosovo in order to get "Datum".
2. Your today's corrupted elite were heroes before they took over Srbija, it was the "weak" Tadic and Cedo corrupted.
3. KLA doesn't exist anymore, only Kosovo Gov't that is seeking a seat in UN which according to Dacic "is up for discussion".
4. In Srbija all is very open to change any time, A narko-Prime Minister that changes colors every election, A radical minded President without any power to run on his policies, a powerless parliament, a corrupted police force, ...
(Silver Srebro, 6 February 2013 20:07)

1. The 'datum' only matters to Serbia's political elite, the Serbian public is increasingly becoming Euroskeptic and it doesn't help that one EU member wants out of the club ever so desperately. (apart from Ian and others on disability leave)
2. The corrupted elite goes far beyond the actual ruling coalition. This means nothing to me. Dhaciq and Nikoliq were never heroes for me, I never voted for either of them (I voted for Dveri because they are not apart of the elite). Tadiq, Dhaciq, Nikoliq they are all just as bad as the next.
3. The KLA exists they are the occupiers of Kosovo i Metohija, enabled by the West (although not when it comes to Mitrovica)
4. I agree with you, Dhaciq changes his colors anytime it suits him. This is why you should not take these meetings seriously, they do what benefits them. This is not the will of the Serbian people.

THIS GUY KEEPS RUINING EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!

"Atifete Jahjaga stated after the meeting with Tomislav Nikolić on Wednesday that this was "the first meeting between presidents of two independent and sovereign countries". "

...
"normalisation of the two countries' relations"...

"...resolving the problems which the two countries' citizens are facing". "

"...both in the two countries and the wider region"."

Dr. Freud would know how to interpret what repeating TWO words again and again means :)

@(milos, 6 February 2013 23:56)
Because Serrbian police unit, military and paramilitary unit headed by very top level Serbian Government, organized apartheid against Albanian population in Kosovo. Therefore KLA has been organized and started defending population in Kosovo which brought us in an independent state.

And why does it offend you so much that us Serbs are making such a fuss about anything to do with Kosovo. You constantly mention the war there 13 years ago as the reason, but what about the terrorist campaign the KLA started from 1996? They targeted the states authority, members of the police force, postal service, politicians. Even innocent civilians. The ‘Panda Bar’ massacre conducted by the KLA on innocent Serb teenagers as ‘revenge’ for the army killing members of the KLA smuggling weapons from Albania to Kosovo the night before! You act as if the Yugoslav army just waltzed in and massacred/expelled everyone for no reason!
The state took a very heavy handed approach to the terror being inflicted by the KLA. The army and the paramilitaries took this out on the Albanian civilians. That was wrong, totally inexcusable. But in this part of the world, it is a vicious cycle. A cycle that started so long ago that the stories the old men talk about and actual facts have become blurred. Is this an excuse, absolutely not. But it wasn’t without reason either.

Tomislav Nikolić says that he "told President Jahjaga that the dialogue will not move toward a solution if she continues to insist that Kosovo is independent".

I like it when tomi calls my president by the title that she bears: President of Kosovo.


Sincerely,

but no country can be expected to recognise the independence of any of its parts without asking their citizens first,” Nikolić said.

So what are you waiting for? Why don't you ask your citizens? Get the "NO" answer that is expected from the serbs and it is done. You cannot do that because Serbia is a country in the brink of bankruptcy. Serbia survives on EU money, and to get that money you need to dance to the tunes of EU.

To all the Albanian’s (and Croatian’s and Bosnaiks as well cause you guys always jump on the wagon when it comes to hating on Serbs) out there, just a quick question...
What do you want us to do? Do you want Serbia to recognise Kosovo? Ok, what then. Will everything be fixed once that happens? Or will you then ask us of something else. Will you then insist that all of the Serbian Orthodox monuments be re-labelled as 'Kosovo's cultural monuments...Will you then say that Presevo valley should join Kosovo too... Ok, say that happens, what then? Will you ask for Nis? Apparently this was an historical area inhabited by Albanians as well...
Where does it end??

It is clear Serbia has not thought out what it hopes to achieve at these "negotiations". In fact, they do not realize they won't be able to join the EU for some decades. In the meantime they are making all kinds of concessions to the Albanians. Not long ago the Serbs changed governments hoping to gain the unachievable, that is, keep Kosovo and also join the EU. They failed miserably at both and, on top of that, voted out Tadic, the best president they ever had.

First it was Serbia will never recognize Kosov.

Then it was partition

Then it was autonomy for the north.

Then it was well the eu is status neutral so it doesn't matter

Read this quote from Ashton after the meeting...
Ahton said in a press release that she met in Brussels today with the two heads of state to discuss the on-going dialogue between Belgrade and Priština, which has already produced a number of significant achievements.

What 2 head of state was she talking about? Maybe Kosov and Serbia?
I don't understand how Serbia can say that these talks are not between 2 countries when the MAJORITY of the world and the host of the meeting says otherwise.

On another topic, looking at the photo, you can see men on the left and women on the right. In Canada there is a saying "when mom happy everybody happy". So you gotta make the laydies happy if you wanna be happy. If you know what i mean... Lesson for Mr. NIKOLIC

And out of the whole mess arose USA-NATO's Camp Bondsteel. That's what it was all about in 1999.

@ Pls say it ain't so!!!
No I’m not young, or naïve. And I do know what’s happened in KosMet in the 20th Century.

“I'm not even going to talk about what you people did to Albanians before that, just a waste of time as you won't get it.”

No please do. What did we do?
Are you going to talk about revoking Autonomy in 1990? Don’t bother. Because the autonomy was REDUCED not REVOKED. The autonomy the communist Yugoslavia gave Kosovo in 1974 was unprecedented in the world. I mean, how can a province (Kosovo) of a republic (Serbia) veto any law trying to be applied to that republic, yet the republic cannot veto any law applied to the province? That’s the type of power that was removed in 1990.
And another thing, Albanians have been running Kosovo since the 1970s, and they ran it into the ground. Kosovo received more money from the federation then any other republic or province. Yet Kosovo was the most underdeveloped. I’m sure this was the Serbs fault ;) Just to add, that’s why Slovenia wanted out. Coz they were the richest, bringing in the most money to the federation, yet they couldn’t stand just sitting there and watching it be wasted in Kosovo.

Srebro, I wish I could understand what your argument is, it sounds good, but I just don't understand your English. In any case, I see you are arguing a hypothetical point of Obama and the president of Kellogg. Well, Mr. Kellogg could never meet Mr. Obama as an equal, Kellogg has no country (Kosovo). Obama can speak to a representative of Kellogg (Jahjaga), but they are not equals. Many countries may back Kellogg in its quest to be an independent nation, but they cannot make it so, because many other countries object. So Kellogg is caught in no man's land. It is not a country, it is not a province. What is it? Stay tuned, and we shall all find out one day. But no, Jahjaga and Nikolic are not equal representatives, as presidents, of two sovereign nations. Serbia is, but Kosovo is still up for grabs.

And why does it offend you so much that us Serbs are making such a fuss about anything to do with Kosovo. You constantly mention the war there 13 years ago as the reason, but what about the terrorist campaign the KLA started from 1996? Even innocent civilians. The ‘Panda Bar’ massacre conducted by the KLA on innocent Serb teenagers as ‘revenge’ for the army killing members of the KLA smuggling weapons from Albania to Kosovo the night before! You act as if the Yugoslav army just waltzed in and massacred/expelled everyone for no reason!
The state took a very heavy handed approach to the terror being inflicted by the KLA. The army and the paramilitaries took this out on the Albanian civilians. That was wrong, totally inexcusable.
(milos, 6 February 2013 23:56)

Point well taken Milos, and I do understand why you’re so confused; This crap did not start in 1996 nor 1999, this is an ongoing battle since 20th century, I understand that you’re young (I’m guessing!), naive and not knowledgeable about what goes/went down in Kosova, but for you to have the audacity and talk about “innocent civilians’ it’s an utter shame to humanity.

Are you kidding me?!!!

After killing and massacring over 10,000 people, you come up with this?!!!

I'm not even going to talk about what you people did to Albanians before that, just a waste of time as you won't get it.

Waste energy to even reply, you’re helpless…

Any referendum about Kosovo independence in Serbia would go to support of independence of Kosovo. Serbs want EU membership and why they have been voting against nationalist parties for years now.

Where does it end??
(milos, 6 February 2013 23:54)
=============================
You are asking them a question they don't want to answer.

We know how far they are prepared to go but it makes them look bad if they admit to going after all you mentioned.
Eating a loaf of bread slice by slice does not make you look like a glutton, but scoffing the whole lof at once does.
It's all about the image they want to project.

Any referendum about Kosovo independence in Serbia would go to support of independence of Kosovo. Serbs want EU membership and why they have been voting against nationalist parties for years now.
(Brian, 7 February 2013 20:39)

The last poll on EU Serbia’s membership said it was 60% against, 30% for and 10% undecided. The EU pot of gold is long gone, ask the Slovenes who are now demonstrating every day because the cash they got from the breakup is all gone and the EU is broke.

The last poll also asked about Kosovo and the vast majority said NO.

Sorry mate you’re a decade behind the times. The only people hoping for a pot of gold from the EU are Albanians and Croats.

Definitions of racism include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic or religious stereotypes. Does that cover it for you Ccedo?!

And she makes no sense at all, but then again, I get a kick out of it…..

@ Pls say it ain't so!!!
No I’m not young, or naïve. KosMet

“I'm not even going to talk about what you people did to Albanians before that, just a waste of time as you won't get it.”

No please do. What did we do?

Are you going to talk about revoking Autonomy in 1990? Don’t bother. Because the autonomy was REDUCED not REVOKED. The autonomy the communist Yugoslavia gave Kosovo in 1974 was unprecedented in the world.
And another thing, Albanians have been running Kosovo since the 1970s, and they ran it into the ground.
(milos, 7 February 2013 22:02)

Oh OK, so we got one thing clear, you’re old and still naive, understood.
Milos says: And I do know what’s happened in KosMet in the 20th Century.
You can call it Zimbabwe if you will, WE the owners call it KOSOVA (don’t even know what that funky word you pulled out of your sleeves means, nor do I care.)
Old Milos says: Kosovo received more money from the federation then any other republic or province. Yet Kosovo was the most underdeveloped.

I am a Serbian-American. My advice to my fellow Orthodox Serbs is to hang on to Kosovo no matter what. Do not give so much as an inch. Also go to church and pray for our brethren in Kosovo, and contribute all you can to their survival.

The US/NATO/EU "empire" is imploding much more rapidly than you may realize. There is no future in the EU. There IS a future in trading and mutual defense with the BRIC nations: Russia, China, India, and Brazil.

See:

http://1389blog.com/2013/01/30/now-this-is-disgusting-27/

http://1389blog.com/2013/01/28/five-serbian-cemeteries-vandalized-and-a-chapel-torched-in-kosovo/

for why there must be no compromise with the Kosovar Albanian Muslims, their narcoterrorist "government", or the EULEX occupation force.

Just wait it out, remain steadfast, and keep praying.

Just wait it out, remain steadfast, and keep praying.
(1389AD, 8 February 2013 23:00)

I second... according to Serb patriots here Serbs are patient people so it should not be a problem for them to wait for another 500 years. And if that does not happen in 500 years, guess what, just wait another 500... they should make sure though to think and pray first about feeding their children (see http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=11&dd=20&nav_id=83245 and http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?mm=7&dd=21&yyyy=2012) otherwise there might not be Serbs around by that time :)

It´s like the Israeli Vice President for American Affairs (IVPAA), Barrack Hussein Obomber going to Tel aviv (again) for marching orders.

This spine-less, turncoat joke of a "Serb" does the same grovelling stunt under the German €USSR and accept any amount of humiliation and spit for nothing. When will the brainwashing end?

This shows serbia recognized Kosova as independence one way or another if 2 presidents meet is done deal weather few of you serbs like it or not.
(Bahri, 6 February 2013 15:40)

Not exactly. I know that's what you would love to believe but its not really the case. Yes this meeting should not take place as far as most Serbs are concerned. Not that I have a problem with this lady personally, she was not in the KLA and does not have extracted organ blood dripping from her heels, but meeting with Nikoliq should not have happened.

But in the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't change anything. Reason being, yes Serbia's gov't today is corrupt and traitorous but that's not to say it will forever be this way. In fact, if there were elections today there would be a likely chance the SNS would have to form a gov't with hardliners such as DSS and then these 'negotiations' would go no where.

What then? I mean jeeze, for an independent country you guys are surely dependent on Serbia's corrupted elite to meet with you. The only thing that matters is the KLA never gets a seat as a UN member state. The rest of this sh*t is very open to change at any time.

The meeting between the two president is considered an “affirmation of the Belgrade-Priština dialogue at the top level”, European Commission (EC) officials have stressed.

The meeting will confirm that both sides and the EC are making an effort to strengthen regional cooperation.

European diplomatic sources told Beta news agency that Ashton was expected to point out the importance of the dialogue and normalization of relations for “Serbia and Kosovo’s EU perspective”.

Nothing more needs to be said! It's crystal clear for the Serbian government, Nikolic will be attending a meeting with another president! In this case, it will be with the president of Kosova!!! You serbia, may interpret it as u like?

This shows serbia recognized Kosova as independence one way or another if 2 presidents meet is done deal weather few of you serbs like it or not.

I'm actually kind of glad the Albanian side does little more than obsess over what they think is the latest "proof" that Serbia has recognized Kosovo by being in the same room with one of their leaders. Suits me fine since if that's all they care about, extracting further concessions and enhancing local powers to Serb communities in the region should be all the more easier :)

Platform and resolution about Kosovo is a frame for dialog but at the same time good way to convince Europe that Serbs put all effort to continue dialog and support Serbs from Kosovo.

Oh please, spare me with all of the "meeting of two independent presidents" dodo. The purpose of this meeting was to show that Serbia is establishing "good neighborly relations", period. Why does anyone think it is anything more? Did Serbia formally recognize an independent Albanian State on its southern province, no. Lets just keep the dialogues going, it makes everyone behave relatively civil, and keeps a ton of politicians and diplomats in business, both the Balkans and the West. IMHO, the north of KiM will become a part of Serbia proper, and the Albanians will get a UN recognized, EU governed protectorate called The European Territory of Kosovo. Everyone will have their local self governments, and everyone will pretend to be happy.

Albo response: "ohhhh, loooook, now you have recognized Kosova, YAYAY"

Are you guys going to try this every meeting? We will reiterate, it's never going to happen. Get over it.

If Obama meets with the president of Kellogg cereal, it doesn't make Kellogg an independent country.

Nikolic meeting with Jahaga is total and complete recognition of Kosovo independence and everyone knows this. It is known to all now that Serbia is a strident support of Kosovo independence.

In another sign of progress, Serbia's government on Monday night named its first liaison officer to Pristina.

Thank you Serbia for finally agreeing on this meeting ,because deep down you know this was going to happen and now recognition is is the next and dare I say how long will that take

@Ari

you're right to a certain extent, this does not mean much at this point. At the same time there is no way you can deny the fact that Serbia is headed to recognizing Kosova. They have appointed representatives from both sides. They are meeting each other from the highest official level. There's not much left to do but recognize Kosova on serbias side. Even if Serbia does not recognize Kosova like German ambassador in Serbia said neither party can block each other from anything. So Serbia can get their way to EU who cares, Kosova will get its UN seat as well we all know Vuk Jeremic won't be there forever lol. So this is working for both sides. Stop dreaming Ari wake up.

1. It is Serbia that needs to meet with Kosovo in order to get "Datum".
2. Your today's corrupted elite were heroes before they took over Srbija, it was the "weak" Tadic and Cedo corrupted.
3. KLA doesn't exist anymore, only Kosovo Gov't that is seeking a seat in UN which according to Dacic "is up for discussion".
4. In Srbija all is very open to change any time, A narko-Prime Minister that changes colors every election, A radical minded President without any power to run on his policies, a powerless parliament, a corrupted police force, ...
(Silver Srebro, 6 February 2013 20:07)

1. The 'datum' only matters to Serbia's political elite, the Serbian public is increasingly becoming Euroskeptic and it doesn't help that one EU member wants out of the club ever so desperately. (apart from Ian and others on disability leave)
2. The corrupted elite goes far beyond the actual ruling coalition. This means nothing to me. Dhaciq and Nikoliq were never heroes for me, I never voted for either of them (I voted for Dveri because they are not apart of the elite). Tadiq, Dhaciq, Nikoliq they are all just as bad as the next.
3. The KLA exists they are the occupiers of Kosovo i Metohija, enabled by the West (although not when it comes to Mitrovica)
4. I agree with you, Dhaciq changes his colors anytime it suits him. This is why you should not take these meetings seriously, they do what benefits them. This is not the will of the Serbian people.

All this is just a show, to tell 5 EU countries to recognise Kosova.
Also to be recognise by other countries the did not do so. Reason is to secure 2/3 of UN. And than Kosova will be part of UN. Who cares if Serbia recognise it or not. When Ari Gold will be president of Serbia he can claim Kosova again. We are going nowhere. We have all the time to wait.
(gjon fusha, 6 February 2013 20:51)

Fusha I can tell you were a pupil of Hoxha's education system clearly. First of all, the UN requires approval from the security council before a territory becomes a full-fledged member. Secondly, considering Spain has separatist problems it will probably never recognize the occupation as legitimate and Cyprus wouldn't recognize it even if Serbia's traitorous gov't decided to. (both are also members of NATO mind you).


"we are going nowhere" is kind of funny because the undeniable reality is, as long as Kosovo i Metohija's status continues to be in limbo, any Albanian will seek the chance to leave the province in search of a life in a non-disputed territory where they can make a better living. You say you aren't going anywhere, but chances are you have already left.

President Ari Gold aha, has a nice ring to it.

Ari Gold- seriously Serbia is recognizing kosovo independence. The Serbian connection to Kosovo is over. It is just over. End of story. Serbia recognition of Kosovo independence happened in 2013.

great picture, a perfect pair:)

If the customs deal and appointment of an ambassador werent obvious enough to some people that serbia has recognized kosov independence his certainly is and no one can argue otherwise

Nikolić - Jahjaga

I bet no one was thinking about possible sex here, before me.

Nooo, Nikolic would not agree.. I mean sure.. Or not?

All this is just a show, to tell 5 EU countries to recognise Kosova.
Also to be recognise by other countries the did not do so. Reason is to secure 2/3 of UN. And than Kosova will be part of UN. Who cares if Serbia recognise it or not. When Ari Gold will be president of Serbia he can claim Kosova again. We are going nowhere. We have all the time to wait.

“EU membership is our primary goal and we will do all a country and a nation with their pride can do,” Nikolić said.

I am sorry dude, but the last time Serbia tried to achieve anything with pride never worked out for them. Nikolic is better off coming out clean about everything it is in Serbia's best interest to do so rather than lying left and right. Serbs failed to realize that Tadic was a better leader for them in every way possible. All you hear is how he screwed up... This loving Serbian Vojislav Kostunica couldn't do a damn thing to prevent Kosova from declaring its independence what did Kostunica do after that? He resigned he quit on his on people and his country. Not he wants to voice his opinion every now and then when he is not on a hot seat anymore. Talk about a coward that is one right there. Slobodans administrator Screwed up we all know that, who is running Serbia as we speak??? Slobodans former administration so don't expect things to get better. You should have learned from the 90's and stop blaming the only real smart leader you once had Tadic.

Winston, Serbia needs these meetings and negotiations more than Kosova that's a fact. So Serbia will do everything it can to keep these negotiations going even if they don't benefit Serbia at this point. Stop trying to twist the topic here and comment about it like it is.

"Atifete Jahjaga stated after the meeting with Tomislav Nikolić on Wednesday that this was "the first meeting between presidents of two independent and sovereign countries". "

...
"normalisation of the two countries' relations"...

"...resolving the problems which the two countries' citizens are facing". "

"...both in the two countries and the wider region"."

Dr. Freud would know how to interpret what repeating TWO words again and again means :)

Negotiations are the essence of bilateral relations of two countries! I honestly can't understand how do you people think Serbia should solve this problem with Kosovo ?! Using bombs, bullets and knives? More dead children and youngsters? Instead of peacefully negotiations! I think this is the only way!

And why does it offend you so much that us Serbs are making such a fuss about anything to do with Kosovo. You constantly mention the war there 13 years ago as the reason, but what about the terrorist campaign the KLA started from 1996? They targeted the states authority, members of the police force, postal service, politicians. Even innocent civilians. The ‘Panda Bar’ massacre conducted by the KLA on innocent Serb teenagers as ‘revenge’ for the army killing members of the KLA smuggling weapons from Albania to Kosovo the night before! You act as if the Yugoslav army just waltzed in and massacred/expelled everyone for no reason!
The state took a very heavy handed approach to the terror being inflicted by the KLA. The army and the paramilitaries took this out on the Albanian civilians. That was wrong, totally inexcusable. But in this part of the world, it is a vicious cycle. A cycle that started so long ago that the stories the old men talk about and actual facts have become blurred. Is this an excuse, absolutely not. But it wasn’t without reason either.

At Ari Gold:
"for an independent country you guys are surely dependent on Serbia's corrupted elite to meet with you. The only thing that matters is the KLA never gets a seat as a UN member state. The rest of this sh*t is very open to change at any time."

1. It is Serbia that needs to meet with Kosovo in order to get "Datum".
2. Your today's corrupted elite were heroes before they took over Srbija, it was the "weak" Tadic and Cedo corrupted.
3. KLA doesn't exist anymore, only Kosovo Gov't that is seeking a seat in UN which according to Dacic "is up for discussion".
4. In Srbija all is very open to change any time, A narko-Prime Minister that changes colors every election, A radical minded President without any power to run on his policies, a powerless parliament, a corrupted police force, ...

THIS GUY KEEPS RUINING EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!

To all the Albanian’s (and Croatian’s and Bosnaiks as well cause you guys always jump on the wagon when it comes to hating on Serbs) out there, just a quick question...
What do you want us to do? Do you want Serbia to recognise Kosovo? Ok, what then. Will everything be fixed once that happens? Or will you then ask us of something else. Will you then insist that all of the Serbian Orthodox monuments be re-labelled as 'Kosovo's cultural monuments...Will you then say that Presevo valley should join Kosovo too... Ok, say that happens, what then? Will you ask for Nis? Apparently this was an historical area inhabited by Albanians as well...
Where does it end??

If Obama meets with the president of Kellogg cereal, it doesn't make Kellogg an independent country.
(Steve B., 6 February 2013 22:10)
That was soooo clever, now we know why it is so easy for the Serbian govt to pull the wool over your eyes.

"If Obama meets with the president of Kellogg cereal, it doesn't make Kellogg an independent country?"

Yes, if Kellog seeks recognition, has the same level institution, and Obama meets its president with presidential and diplomatic credential. Imagine if the Kellog was a state in USA and they fight their way out, then both presidents meet! The only difference both presidents have presidential and academic capacity, Nikolic doesn't.

Srebro, I wish I could understand what your argument is, it sounds good, but I just don't understand your English. In any case, I see you are arguing a hypothetical point of Obama and the president of Kellogg. Well, Mr. Kellogg could never meet Mr. Obama as an equal, Kellogg has no country (Kosovo). Obama can speak to a representative of Kellogg (Jahjaga), but they are not equals. Many countries may back Kellogg in its quest to be an independent nation, but they cannot make it so, because many other countries object. So Kellogg is caught in no man's land. It is not a country, it is not a province. What is it? Stay tuned, and we shall all find out one day. But no, Jahjaga and Nikolic are not equal representatives, as presidents, of two sovereign nations. Serbia is, but Kosovo is still up for grabs.

Tomislav Nikolić says that he "told President Jahjaga that the dialogue will not move toward a solution if she continues to insist that Kosovo is independent".

I like it when tomi calls my president by the title that she bears: President of Kosovo.


Sincerely,

@(milos, 6 February 2013 23:56)
Because Serrbian police unit, military and paramilitary unit headed by very top level Serbian Government, organized apartheid against Albanian population in Kosovo. Therefore KLA has been organized and started defending population in Kosovo which brought us in an independent state.

And why does it offend you so much that us Serbs are making such a fuss about anything to do with Kosovo. You constantly mention the war there 13 years ago as the reason, but what about the terrorist campaign the KLA started from 1996? Even innocent civilians. The ‘Panda Bar’ massacre conducted by the KLA on innocent Serb teenagers as ‘revenge’ for the army killing members of the KLA smuggling weapons from Albania to Kosovo the night before! You act as if the Yugoslav army just waltzed in and massacred/expelled everyone for no reason!
The state took a very heavy handed approach to the terror being inflicted by the KLA. The army and the paramilitaries took this out on the Albanian civilians. That was wrong, totally inexcusable.
(milos, 6 February 2013 23:56)

Point well taken Milos, and I do understand why you’re so confused; This crap did not start in 1996 nor 1999, this is an ongoing battle since 20th century, I understand that you’re young (I’m guessing!), naive and not knowledgeable about what goes/went down in Kosova, but for you to have the audacity and talk about “innocent civilians’ it’s an utter shame to humanity.

Are you kidding me?!!!

After killing and massacring over 10,000 people, you come up with this?!!!

I'm not even going to talk about what you people did to Albanians before that, just a waste of time as you won't get it.

Waste energy to even reply, you’re helpless…

It is clear Serbia has not thought out what it hopes to achieve at these "negotiations". In fact, they do not realize they won't be able to join the EU for some decades. In the meantime they are making all kinds of concessions to the Albanians. Not long ago the Serbs changed governments hoping to gain the unachievable, that is, keep Kosovo and also join the EU. They failed miserably at both and, on top of that, voted out Tadic, the best president they ever had.

but no country can be expected to recognise the independence of any of its parts without asking their citizens first,” Nikolić said.

So what are you waiting for? Why don't you ask your citizens? Get the "NO" answer that is expected from the serbs and it is done. You cannot do that because Serbia is a country in the brink of bankruptcy. Serbia survives on EU money, and to get that money you need to dance to the tunes of EU.

First it was Serbia will never recognize Kosov.

Then it was partition

Then it was autonomy for the north.

Then it was well the eu is status neutral so it doesn't matter

Read this quote from Ashton after the meeting...
Ahton said in a press release that she met in Brussels today with the two heads of state to discuss the on-going dialogue between Belgrade and Priština, which has already produced a number of significant achievements.

What 2 head of state was she talking about? Maybe Kosov and Serbia?
I don't understand how Serbia can say that these talks are not between 2 countries when the MAJORITY of the world and the host of the meeting says otherwise.

On another topic, looking at the photo, you can see men on the left and women on the right. In Canada there is a saying "when mom happy everybody happy". So you gotta make the laydies happy if you wanna be happy. If you know what i mean... Lesson for Mr. NIKOLIC

Any referendum about Kosovo independence in Serbia would go to support of independence of Kosovo. Serbs want EU membership and why they have been voting against nationalist parties for years now.

And out of the whole mess arose USA-NATO's Camp Bondsteel. That's what it was all about in 1999.

@ Pls say it ain't so!!!
No I’m not young, or naïve. And I do know what’s happened in KosMet in the 20th Century.

“I'm not even going to talk about what you people did to Albanians before that, just a waste of time as you won't get it.”

No please do. What did we do?
Are you going to talk about revoking Autonomy in 1990? Don’t bother. Because the autonomy was REDUCED not REVOKED. The autonomy the communist Yugoslavia gave Kosovo in 1974 was unprecedented in the world. I mean, how can a province (Kosovo) of a republic (Serbia) veto any law trying to be applied to that republic, yet the republic cannot veto any law applied to the province? That’s the type of power that was removed in 1990.
And another thing, Albanians have been running Kosovo since the 1970s, and they ran it into the ground. Kosovo received more money from the federation then any other republic or province. Yet Kosovo was the most underdeveloped. I’m sure this was the Serbs fault ;) Just to add, that’s why Slovenia wanted out. Coz they were the richest, bringing in the most money to the federation, yet they couldn’t stand just sitting there and watching it be wasted in Kosovo.

Where does it end??
(milos, 6 February 2013 23:54)
=============================
You are asking them a question they don't want to answer.

We know how far they are prepared to go but it makes them look bad if they admit to going after all you mentioned.
Eating a loaf of bread slice by slice does not make you look like a glutton, but scoffing the whole lof at once does.
It's all about the image they want to project.

Any referendum about Kosovo independence in Serbia would go to support of independence of Kosovo. Serbs want EU membership and why they have been voting against nationalist parties for years now.
(Brian, 7 February 2013 20:39)

The last poll on EU Serbia’s membership said it was 60% against, 30% for and 10% undecided. The EU pot of gold is long gone, ask the Slovenes who are now demonstrating every day because the cash they got from the breakup is all gone and the EU is broke.

The last poll also asked about Kosovo and the vast majority said NO.

Sorry mate you’re a decade behind the times. The only people hoping for a pot of gold from the EU are Albanians and Croats.

Definitions of racism include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic or religious stereotypes. Does that cover it for you Ccedo?!

And she makes no sense at all, but then again, I get a kick out of it…..

@ Pls say it ain't so!!!
No I’m not young, or naïve. KosMet

“I'm not even going to talk about what you people did to Albanians before that, just a waste of time as you won't get it.”

No please do. What did we do?

Are you going to talk about revoking Autonomy in 1990? Don’t bother. Because the autonomy was REDUCED not REVOKED. The autonomy the communist Yugoslavia gave Kosovo in 1974 was unprecedented in the world.
And another thing, Albanians have been running Kosovo since the 1970s, and they ran it into the ground.
(milos, 7 February 2013 22:02)

Oh OK, so we got one thing clear, you’re old and still naive, understood.
Milos says: And I do know what’s happened in KosMet in the 20th Century.
You can call it Zimbabwe if you will, WE the owners call it KOSOVA (don’t even know what that funky word you pulled out of your sleeves means, nor do I care.)
Old Milos says: Kosovo received more money from the federation then any other republic or province. Yet Kosovo was the most underdeveloped.

I am a Serbian-American. My advice to my fellow Orthodox Serbs is to hang on to Kosovo no matter what. Do not give so much as an inch. Also go to church and pray for our brethren in Kosovo, and contribute all you can to their survival.

The US/NATO/EU "empire" is imploding much more rapidly than you may realize. There is no future in the EU. There IS a future in trading and mutual defense with the BRIC nations: Russia, China, India, and Brazil.

See:

http://1389blog.com/2013/01/30/now-this-is-disgusting-27/

http://1389blog.com/2013/01/28/five-serbian-cemeteries-vandalized-and-a-chapel-torched-in-kosovo/

for why there must be no compromise with the Kosovar Albanian Muslims, their narcoterrorist "government", or the EULEX occupation force.

Just wait it out, remain steadfast, and keep praying.

Just wait it out, remain steadfast, and keep praying.
(1389AD, 8 February 2013 23:00)

I second... according to Serb patriots here Serbs are patient people so it should not be a problem for them to wait for another 500 years. And if that does not happen in 500 years, guess what, just wait another 500... they should make sure though to think and pray first about feeding their children (see http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=11&dd=20&nav_id=83245 and http://www.b92.net/eng/news/society-article.php?mm=7&dd=21&yyyy=2012) otherwise there might not be Serbs around by that time :)