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Saturday, 17.11.2012.

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Serbia, Croatia “see history differently”

Croatian President Ivo Josipović has said that it is unrealistic to expect Serbia and Croatia to see some aspects of history the same way.

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Milan

pre 13 godina

What are you talking about? Your only argument is that convoys didn’t being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers? This is a very sick point of view. I will try to have a sick mind for a moment..... well they didn’t want to shoot out convoys as they could stopped their exodus with this decision.

icj1

pre 13 godina

I agree with many of our fellow Serb posters here that there is no justice in this court, and thus Serbia should not ally itself with anti Serbian countries like Russia, China & co which set up this court and elect its judges.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

There are photo's and videos of Serbs leaving in a convoy out of Croatia. But please show me the photos of the Serbian convoy being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers. If you can not than do not make up laughable statements.
(Antun, 18 November 2012 02:29) Exactly here is a British reporters on the seen in 1995 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rzQq846Yn8&feature=related .

Wajid

pre 13 godina

Remember when Croatia went into Serbia and started a war? No? Because it didn't happen. You wanted Greater Serbia, that's been clear since day 1.

Antun

pre 13 godina

Laughable, Croatia didn't PLAN on expeling the Serbs,about 270,000 people if more. Photos of people leaving in a convoy out of the country while being attacked are not made up. The UN is a joke.
(michael, 17 November 2012 14:46)

There are photo's and videos of Serbs leaving in a convoy out of Croatia. But please show me the photos of the Serbian convoy being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers. If you can not than do not make up laughable statements.

Renko

pre 13 godina

I don't think that the Serbs from Krajina were expelled, but they fled.
Of course, Tudjman wanted them out, but they were not deported - they chose to leave rather than live under Tudjman.
It would be interesting to look at the borders of these republics today if Yugoslavia had been divided up on linguistic or confessional lines: most of Kosovo would be Albanian, but much of Bosnia and Croatia would belong to Serbia.
Easy to understand why Serbs took to their weapons...

wee kelpie

pre 13 godina

But through history these germans/english/french were anti Slavic/anti Russian/Anti Serbian.
...............(mick, 17 November 2012 16:19)

Now then Mick, your upset thats understandable, but inventing statements like the one above is a tadge silly don't you think?
Where did you unearth such a gem that lists the UK as ant slav/anti serbian (throughout history)?
Visit the military cemetary in Belgrade and tell those British soldiers (and not forgetting the french) at rest how you feel.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 13 godina

"Croatian President Ivo Josipović has said that it is unrealistic to expect Serbia and Croatia to see some aspects of history the same way."

Judging from the way Croatia purposefully sanitizes its history, and from the way many of its elected officials continue to encourage the celebration of crimes against humanity at an official level, I couldn't agree more :)

mick

pre 13 godina

Really laughable, in the summer of 91 100.000 Serbs were expelled from there homes by tudjman in croatia!

There is no justice in this court, Serbia should not join this anti Serbian union.
But through history these germans/english/french were anti Slavic/anti Russian/Anti Serbian.

Cant wait for the day when the EU breaks!

SCP UK

pre 13 godina

Serbia should forget anmy friendly relations with this sick nation that is Croatia, 2 major atrocities now that this neo-fascist state refuses to recognise. Serbia must also give up all efforts in joining the EU, never again can Serbia be in any union with Croatia.

michael

pre 13 godina

Laughable, Croatia didn't PLAN on expeling the Serbs,about 270,000 people if more. Photos of people leaving in a convoy out of the country while being attacked are not made up. The UN is a joke.

Pete K.

pre 13 godina

Do you {brave?}croats have the {guts?}to admit you were allies of the nazis in World War TWO,and are still lovers of nazis?Go against the Serbs alone and see what happens!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 13 godina

“There will be viewpoints we maybe won’t be able to agree with but we should find that minimal consensus and that it a will to have peace, reconciliation and respect of every victim,” the Croatia’s president said commenting on the acquittal of Croat Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač.

Let's hope so, but the minimal consensus should include condemning crimes committed by both sides, and to receive the just released generals who bear responsibility for 100s/1000s of people killed as 'heroes' is surely not helpful for reconciliation.

Yet Another J S

pre 13 godina

The Leaders of Serbia and Croatia see History exactly the same, but Croatians will lie about the facts, and even all their excuses are lies, and they could not help themselves and love Hitler and Nazi Germany, but I am sure they have a pathetic excuse even for that.

Serbia just needs to let others know that very little time is left before Serbia will file a Genocide lawsuit against America and Germany, for the Physical, Cultural, and Economic Genocide of the Serbian People.

America and Germany must give Serbia some very good reasons, like every good reason Serbia can think of, like setting the Record Straight in order to avert that Genocide Lawsuit.

Yet Another J S

pre 13 godina

The Leaders of Serbia and Croatia see History exactly the same, but Croatians will lie about the facts, and even all their excuses are lies, and they could not help themselves and love Hitler and Nazi Germany, but I am sure they have a pathetic excuse even for that.

Serbia just needs to let others know that very little time is left before Serbia will file a Genocide lawsuit against America and Germany, for the Physical, Cultural, and Economic Genocide of the Serbian People.

America and Germany must give Serbia some very good reasons, like every good reason Serbia can think of, like setting the Record Straight in order to avert that Genocide Lawsuit.

michael

pre 13 godina

Laughable, Croatia didn't PLAN on expeling the Serbs,about 270,000 people if more. Photos of people leaving in a convoy out of the country while being attacked are not made up. The UN is a joke.

Pete K.

pre 13 godina

Do you {brave?}croats have the {guts?}to admit you were allies of the nazis in World War TWO,and are still lovers of nazis?Go against the Serbs alone and see what happens!

SCP UK

pre 13 godina

Serbia should forget anmy friendly relations with this sick nation that is Croatia, 2 major atrocities now that this neo-fascist state refuses to recognise. Serbia must also give up all efforts in joining the EU, never again can Serbia be in any union with Croatia.

mick

pre 13 godina

Really laughable, in the summer of 91 100.000 Serbs were expelled from there homes by tudjman in croatia!

There is no justice in this court, Serbia should not join this anti Serbian union.
But through history these germans/english/french were anti Slavic/anti Russian/Anti Serbian.

Cant wait for the day when the EU breaks!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 13 godina

“There will be viewpoints we maybe won’t be able to agree with but we should find that minimal consensus and that it a will to have peace, reconciliation and respect of every victim,” the Croatia’s president said commenting on the acquittal of Croat Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač.

Let's hope so, but the minimal consensus should include condemning crimes committed by both sides, and to receive the just released generals who bear responsibility for 100s/1000s of people killed as 'heroes' is surely not helpful for reconciliation.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 13 godina

"Croatian President Ivo Josipović has said that it is unrealistic to expect Serbia and Croatia to see some aspects of history the same way."

Judging from the way Croatia purposefully sanitizes its history, and from the way many of its elected officials continue to encourage the celebration of crimes against humanity at an official level, I couldn't agree more :)

wee kelpie

pre 13 godina

But through history these germans/english/french were anti Slavic/anti Russian/Anti Serbian.
...............(mick, 17 November 2012 16:19)

Now then Mick, your upset thats understandable, but inventing statements like the one above is a tadge silly don't you think?
Where did you unearth such a gem that lists the UK as ant slav/anti serbian (throughout history)?
Visit the military cemetary in Belgrade and tell those British soldiers (and not forgetting the french) at rest how you feel.

Renko

pre 13 godina

I don't think that the Serbs from Krajina were expelled, but they fled.
Of course, Tudjman wanted them out, but they were not deported - they chose to leave rather than live under Tudjman.
It would be interesting to look at the borders of these republics today if Yugoslavia had been divided up on linguistic or confessional lines: most of Kosovo would be Albanian, but much of Bosnia and Croatia would belong to Serbia.
Easy to understand why Serbs took to their weapons...

Wajid

pre 13 godina

Remember when Croatia went into Serbia and started a war? No? Because it didn't happen. You wanted Greater Serbia, that's been clear since day 1.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

There are photo's and videos of Serbs leaving in a convoy out of Croatia. But please show me the photos of the Serbian convoy being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers. If you can not than do not make up laughable statements.
(Antun, 18 November 2012 02:29) Exactly here is a British reporters on the seen in 1995 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rzQq846Yn8&feature=related .

Antun

pre 13 godina

Laughable, Croatia didn't PLAN on expeling the Serbs,about 270,000 people if more. Photos of people leaving in a convoy out of the country while being attacked are not made up. The UN is a joke.
(michael, 17 November 2012 14:46)

There are photo's and videos of Serbs leaving in a convoy out of Croatia. But please show me the photos of the Serbian convoy being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers. If you can not than do not make up laughable statements.

Milan

pre 13 godina

What are you talking about? Your only argument is that convoys didn’t being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers? This is a very sick point of view. I will try to have a sick mind for a moment..... well they didn’t want to shoot out convoys as they could stopped their exodus with this decision.

icj1

pre 13 godina

I agree with many of our fellow Serb posters here that there is no justice in this court, and thus Serbia should not ally itself with anti Serbian countries like Russia, China & co which set up this court and elect its judges.

Yet Another J S

pre 13 godina

The Leaders of Serbia and Croatia see History exactly the same, but Croatians will lie about the facts, and even all their excuses are lies, and they could not help themselves and love Hitler and Nazi Germany, but I am sure they have a pathetic excuse even for that.

Serbia just needs to let others know that very little time is left before Serbia will file a Genocide lawsuit against America and Germany, for the Physical, Cultural, and Economic Genocide of the Serbian People.

America and Germany must give Serbia some very good reasons, like every good reason Serbia can think of, like setting the Record Straight in order to avert that Genocide Lawsuit.

Pete K.

pre 13 godina

Do you {brave?}croats have the {guts?}to admit you were allies of the nazis in World War TWO,and are still lovers of nazis?Go against the Serbs alone and see what happens!

michael

pre 13 godina

Laughable, Croatia didn't PLAN on expeling the Serbs,about 270,000 people if more. Photos of people leaving in a convoy out of the country while being attacked are not made up. The UN is a joke.

SCP UK

pre 13 godina

Serbia should forget anmy friendly relations with this sick nation that is Croatia, 2 major atrocities now that this neo-fascist state refuses to recognise. Serbia must also give up all efforts in joining the EU, never again can Serbia be in any union with Croatia.

mick

pre 13 godina

Really laughable, in the summer of 91 100.000 Serbs were expelled from there homes by tudjman in croatia!

There is no justice in this court, Serbia should not join this anti Serbian union.
But through history these germans/english/french were anti Slavic/anti Russian/Anti Serbian.

Cant wait for the day when the EU breaks!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 13 godina

“There will be viewpoints we maybe won’t be able to agree with but we should find that minimal consensus and that it a will to have peace, reconciliation and respect of every victim,” the Croatia’s president said commenting on the acquittal of Croat Generals Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač.

Let's hope so, but the minimal consensus should include condemning crimes committed by both sides, and to receive the just released generals who bear responsibility for 100s/1000s of people killed as 'heroes' is surely not helpful for reconciliation.

Renko

pre 13 godina

I don't think that the Serbs from Krajina were expelled, but they fled.
Of course, Tudjman wanted them out, but they were not deported - they chose to leave rather than live under Tudjman.
It would be interesting to look at the borders of these republics today if Yugoslavia had been divided up on linguistic or confessional lines: most of Kosovo would be Albanian, but much of Bosnia and Croatia would belong to Serbia.
Easy to understand why Serbs took to their weapons...

icj1

pre 13 godina

I agree with many of our fellow Serb posters here that there is no justice in this court, and thus Serbia should not ally itself with anti Serbian countries like Russia, China & co which set up this court and elect its judges.

Antun

pre 13 godina

Laughable, Croatia didn't PLAN on expeling the Serbs,about 270,000 people if more. Photos of people leaving in a convoy out of the country while being attacked are not made up. The UN is a joke.
(michael, 17 November 2012 14:46)

There are photo's and videos of Serbs leaving in a convoy out of Croatia. But please show me the photos of the Serbian convoy being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers. If you can not than do not make up laughable statements.

Wajid

pre 13 godina

Remember when Croatia went into Serbia and started a war? No? Because it didn't happen. You wanted Greater Serbia, that's been clear since day 1.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 13 godina

"Croatian President Ivo Josipović has said that it is unrealistic to expect Serbia and Croatia to see some aspects of history the same way."

Judging from the way Croatia purposefully sanitizes its history, and from the way many of its elected officials continue to encourage the celebration of crimes against humanity at an official level, I couldn't agree more :)

Milan

pre 13 godina

What are you talking about? Your only argument is that convoys didn’t being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers? This is a very sick point of view. I will try to have a sick mind for a moment..... well they didn’t want to shoot out convoys as they could stopped their exodus with this decision.

wee kelpie

pre 13 godina

But through history these germans/english/french were anti Slavic/anti Russian/Anti Serbian.
...............(mick, 17 November 2012 16:19)

Now then Mick, your upset thats understandable, but inventing statements like the one above is a tadge silly don't you think?
Where did you unearth such a gem that lists the UK as ant slav/anti serbian (throughout history)?
Visit the military cemetary in Belgrade and tell those British soldiers (and not forgetting the french) at rest how you feel.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

There are photo's and videos of Serbs leaving in a convoy out of Croatia. But please show me the photos of the Serbian convoy being shelled, shoot out or being escorted by Croat soldiers. If you can not than do not make up laughable statements.
(Antun, 18 November 2012 02:29) Exactly here is a British reporters on the seen in 1995 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rzQq846Yn8&feature=related .