Priština replaces Serbian country code with Albanian

PRIŠTINA -- The Kosovo assembly adopted Thursday a resolution by which the country code for Serbia - 381, will be replaced by the international code of Albania - 355.

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)

well Comm, it is independent, they decided independently to adopt the code, hence independent :-)

"The discussion on the resolution was held at a session on August 30. The document was adopted by the votes of 47 MPs, nine were against, while two MPs abstained from voting."

Wow! The majority of Kosovo MPs finally realized that Kosovo is not a country and thus cannot get an own phone prefix from the ITU like other countries.

well Comm, it is independent, they decided independently to adopt the code, hence independent :-)
(Nikolle, 7 September 2012 10:27)

Then why didn't they independently decide to have an independent calling code reserved for no other entity? Stop trying to spin this any other way.

The organ extractors could not get a calling code reserved for them but at the same time the anti patriots in Belgrade did not stand in the way of them using Albania's calling code.

Again proving the point the fifth columnists in Belgrade are more responsible for the temporary occupation than your own Jihadi organ extractors. Instead, Thaci and them just continue to steal from you and blindly accept it and pretend you are living better than before the temporary occupation.

Nothing but clowns at a circus. When Belgrade itself is liberated, the process of lifting occupation in our holy province will begin to take shape.

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 September 2012 09:44)

Parrisson , I`d say the other way , so much about "Kosovo is Serbia"

Nothing but clowns at a circus. When Belgrade itself is liberated, the process of lifting occupation in our holy province will begin to take shape.
(Ari Gold, 7 September 2012 11:00)

I thought Belgrade was liberated at the last election, and true patriots took over!

As for your last remark, Kosova has been liberated from its occupiers in June 1999, and now with Albanian country code 355, it looks like everything Albanian.

here in Canada we have the same country code as the USA (+1). This is called convenience. Nothing to do with independence.

"Kazakstan has the same country code as Russia (+7), does that mean that Khazakstan isn't independent? There are plenty of over seas territories with their own country codes, does that make them independent? "
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2012 11:10)

I think Kazakstan simply kept the old prefix from the Soviet Union times, and Russia as well - they didn't choose to take the country code from another neighboring country, let's say, Mongolia.

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 September 2012 09:44)

Kazakstan has the same country code as Russia (+7), does that mean that Khazakstan isn't independent? There are plenty of over seas territories with their own country codes, does that make them independent?

Adopting Albania's country code is only a temporary issue. Kosovo will eventually get it's own telephone country code, internet country code, satellite, radio ect in the next five years or so as Kosovo will become a member of the United Nations's International Telecommunication Union. All Kosovo has to do is get two thirds approval which is more than achievable for Kosovo to do. There is no Russian veto there.

http://www.itu.int/en/membership/Pages/member-states-membership.aspx

This is the same procedure for Kosovo to join many international organisations, many of which are UN affiliated. We saw how Palestine joined UNESCO recently with 2/3 approval, Kosovo will do the same when the time is right.

The country code was one of the outstanding issues that have been on the table for a long time. It looks like Belgrade's strategy of "wait, delay, do not deal with it" is pushing Kosovo towards Albania. We will see if King Berisha I of Albania will decide to play in Pristina's court or in Belgrade's court. His approval is needed on the Albanian side. He received a visit from US State Department few days ago. Another outstanding issues are the documents stolen by Serbian forces when they left in 1999. Maybe that could be dealt with by having a unified document registry with Albania? You see where this is going right?

"Kazakstan has the same country code as Russia (+7), does that mean that Khazakstan isn't independent? There are plenty of over seas territories with their own country codes, does that make them independent? "
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2012 11:10)

LOLOL! I love how you come on here painting your self to be some smart 'ahead of the curb' Westerner (you're Albanian first of all) yet you say some of the dumbest stuff on here.

Same tactic Atishari used when he said 'Switzerland was not a UN member till 2004 and no one questioned its status as a country'...

Well I say this to both of you, there is a difference between, for whatever reason choosing to do something because it makes the most sense and NOT being able to do something because you are not a real country. That is the case for the occupiers in Kosovo i Metohija.

LOLOL! I love how you come on here painting your self to be some smart 'ahead of the curb' Westerner (you're Albanian first of all) yet you say some of the dumbest stuff on here.

Same tactic Atishari used when he said 'Switzerland was not a UN member till 2004 and no one questioned its status as a country'...

Well I say this to both of you, there is a difference between, for whatever reason choosing to do something because it makes the most sense and NOT being able to do something because you are not a real country. That is the case for the occupiers in Kosovo i Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 7 September 2012 13:47)

I write dumb stuff on here? That's a bit rich coming from you.

You think I'm Albanian? HA! Add me on facebook and you'll see that I'm a proper North Englishman. Only 100% British blood flows through my veins. Surely a Yanky Keyboard Warrior such as yourself must have facebook? Search 'Ian James Anderson' (it has by name in Gaelic too) and you'll find me, picture of me on an Ice Glacier. Then we can debate one-to-one without B92 moderators if you like ;)

I visited Kosova last year and to my amazement when you traveled to Albania you were charged 2.90 Euros a minute regardless of whether you received or made a call. I am sure the exact same thing would have happened whether we traveled to Macedonia or Montenegro. I am not sure what the rates are in Serbia. The balkan countries need to come together and form some type of plan to protect the consumers from these extremely high rates. They should take US as an example. One can travel from one side of the country to another and the consumer pays the exact same rate. The US once had these drocanian rates but the US congress intervened and the phone companies were forced to drop the roaming charges. Perhaps the exact same thing can happen with Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia and Serbia.

I must say that for all the money Kosovo Albanians pay in advertising and lobbying for international recognition of their shiny new country, they ultimately are pretty stupid when it comes to making decisions on their own and even dumber when it comes to spending the money they get. If they want to be independent, adopting a calling code from another country isn't the way to go, and adopting the code from Albania is just a sign of immaturity. Oh wait, we're talking about the "Republic of Kosova*" here. I'm sorry, I thought I was talking about a rational place. What do they think will happen? Do they think this will be allowed by the ITU? And will Emperor Berisha accept it? I'm sure all our Albanian friends of the diaspora will think this is perfectly fine but this will never fly.

Besides, the free, sovereign, independent and democratic Republic of Kosovastan already had an international prefix that was non-Serb. It was borrowed from Monaco so this silly little trist with "Greater Albanian" telecommunication is a waste of time.

Ian

I'm here in the UK, how about you and me meeting up so we can discuss some of these issues face to face??

Put your money where your mouth is key board warrior.

Parrisson , I`d say the other way , so much about "Kosovo is Serbia"
(iso, 7 September 2012 12:03)

That too. And maybe a third thing to add: 'so much about the nice plan of the international community that of Kosovo being a multiethnic, democratic state'

"The document also requests that the Kosovo government quickly initiates negotiations with the Albanian government on using the new international prefix."

Negotiations? Mr. Superagent Pacolli will fill another suitcase and travel to Tirana, and the deal is done.

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 September 2012 09:44)

Independent from Serbia mate... that's all Kosovo cares about. Kosovo would not be offended if you were to tell it that it is dependend from Albania, EU, UN, US, Devil or whatever - as long as it is not Serbia.

Ian

I'm here in the UK, how about you and me meeting up so we can discuss some of these issues face to face??

Put your money where your mouth is key board warrior.
(Champion for the underdog, 7 September 2012 20:54)

Come to Yorkshire and I will.

Negotiations? Mr. Superagent Pacolli will fill another suitcase and travel to Tirana, and the deal is done.
(J.Oker, 7 September 2012 18:21)

I wonder how much in debt Mr Pacolli is now. Because according to you Serbians he had more money then Bill Gate in first place, and now one will assume he is broke just because of spending for Kosovo cause.

@Halifax bloke. Haha I was actually in Halifax today buying a car from Dews. I'm there again next Saturday at 1ish. You're not that Serb I met at the Old Hall in Haworth for WW2 weekend recently are you? Failling that you can meet me in Oxenhope, Haworth or Keighley any time you want.

"here in Canada we have the same country code as the USA (+1). This is called convenience. Nothing to do with independence."
=================================

Fine, then why was it more convenient for Kosovo to adopt Albanian code instead of just do NOTHING and keep the Serbia one?

In my opinion UNMIK should deceide on this issue.

And for the rest: people in the Balkan, stop making so much problems with each other. No new states, no new borders. Please!
(So indeed that means: no Kosovo, sorry!)

Fine, then why was it more convenient for Kosovo to adopt Albanian code instead of just do NOTHING and keep the Serbia one?
(Peggy, 8 September 2012 02:32)

That's for Kosovo to decide dear (as they did). They're not going to ask me or you about that and they don't have to give a reason for that...

That's for Kosovo to decide dear (as they did). They're not going to ask me or you about that and they don't have to give a reason for that...
(icj1, 8 September 2012 15:21)
===========================

I was actually asking Danilo because HE claimed that it would be more convenient so your answer doesn't make any sense at all and frankly why do you answer questions not directed at you especially when you are not even answering the question?
Do you really think that you can answer for someone else and look smart?
The only think you look like is a smartarse.

"here in Canada we have the same country code as the USA (+1). This is called convenience. Nothing to do with independence."

More like it being a natural part of the North American Numbering Plan, which Canada was a part of since its inception in the 1950's.

But ya, no one thinks Canada isn't a separate country because their phone numbers have the same international prefix.

Getting an international calling code is one of the very few practical things that Serbia can do to block Kosovo
(Danilo, 7 September 2012 20:11)

Even if that's true, then what ? If Kosovo were to be back under Serbia it will still have Serbia's code. So the blocking can serve to achieve everything, except for Kosovo returning back under Serbia :)

Ian

I am already in Yorkshire, Halifax to be precise. Now, where and when gobby??
(Champion for the underdog, 8 September 2012 20:01)

Happy days!
by eck, two gobby yorkshiremen about to lock horns :-))
Could this be the clash of the titans? Is the richter scale high enough?
will I feel the thundering vibration here in Naarffaalk................

Please post the results gentlemen!

Getting an international calling code is one of the very few practical things that Serbia can do to block Kosovo and one of the few things for which UN membership matters (ITU, the organization that gives out telephone codes is a UN organization).

One way or another this is and will continue to be a nightmare for Kosovo. They already have how many codes? Slovenia, Monaco, Serbia (Montenegro - I've heard conflicting reports).

They're really just adding another code on top of this all. They should have done this from the beginning.

It would be a nightmare to switch them all to one, unless these separate companies cooperated carefully to make sure they didn't give out the same numbers after their prefix. I find that impossible to imagine. Trying to unify all numbers under one international prefix is going to be a nightmare for Kosovo.

Peggy,

It's not just about convenience, it's about controlling the revenue for incoming traffic, which is significant.

There was a time when Serbia was blocking calls to Kosovo until they realized that they were shooting themselves in the foot by missing out on the incoming calls revenue.

Money from international calls to Kosovo land lines on the 381 prefix goes to Telekom Serbia.

In my opinion UNMIK should deceide on this issue.
And for the rest: people in the Balkan, stop making so much problems with each other. No new states, no new borders. Please!
(So indeed that means: no Kosovo, sorry!)
(Ron, 8 September 2012 14:59)

Ron, go to the class now! Your teacher is looking for you anywhere.

Peggy

Good one girl. That one made me laugh.

Ian

I am already in Yorkshire, Halifax to be precise. Now, where and when gobby??

"I was actually asking Danilo because HE claimed that it would be more convenient"


BTW, I wasn't. I was quoting:
(liberty, 7 September 2012 15:53)

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 September 2012 09:44)

Kazakstan has the same country code as Russia (+7), does that mean that Khazakstan isn't independent? There are plenty of over seas territories with their own country codes, does that make them independent?

Adopting Albania's country code is only a temporary issue. Kosovo will eventually get it's own telephone country code, internet country code, satellite, radio ect in the next five years or so as Kosovo will become a member of the United Nations's International Telecommunication Union. All Kosovo has to do is get two thirds approval which is more than achievable for Kosovo to do. There is no Russian veto there.

http://www.itu.int/en/membership/Pages/member-states-membership.aspx

This is the same procedure for Kosovo to join many international organisations, many of which are UN affiliated. We saw how Palestine joined UNESCO recently with 2/3 approval, Kosovo will do the same when the time is right.

well Comm, it is independent, they decided independently to adopt the code, hence independent :-)

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 September 2012 09:44)

Parrisson , I`d say the other way , so much about "Kosovo is Serbia"

well Comm, it is independent, they decided independently to adopt the code, hence independent :-)
(Nikolle, 7 September 2012 10:27)

Then why didn't they independently decide to have an independent calling code reserved for no other entity? Stop trying to spin this any other way.

The organ extractors could not get a calling code reserved for them but at the same time the anti patriots in Belgrade did not stand in the way of them using Albania's calling code.

Again proving the point the fifth columnists in Belgrade are more responsible for the temporary occupation than your own Jihadi organ extractors. Instead, Thaci and them just continue to steal from you and blindly accept it and pretend you are living better than before the temporary occupation.

Nothing but clowns at a circus. When Belgrade itself is liberated, the process of lifting occupation in our holy province will begin to take shape.

"The discussion on the resolution was held at a session on August 30. The document was adopted by the votes of 47 MPs, nine were against, while two MPs abstained from voting."

Wow! The majority of Kosovo MPs finally realized that Kosovo is not a country and thus cannot get an own phone prefix from the ITU like other countries.

"Kazakstan has the same country code as Russia (+7), does that mean that Khazakstan isn't independent? There are plenty of over seas territories with their own country codes, does that make them independent? "
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2012 11:10)

LOLOL! I love how you come on here painting your self to be some smart 'ahead of the curb' Westerner (you're Albanian first of all) yet you say some of the dumbest stuff on here.

Same tactic Atishari used when he said 'Switzerland was not a UN member till 2004 and no one questioned its status as a country'...

Well I say this to both of you, there is a difference between, for whatever reason choosing to do something because it makes the most sense and NOT being able to do something because you are not a real country. That is the case for the occupiers in Kosovo i Metohija.

PRIŠTINA -- The Kosovo assembly adopted Thursday a resolution by which the country code for Serbia - 381, will be replaced by the international code of Albania - 355.

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)

Nothing but clowns at a circus. When Belgrade itself is liberated, the process of lifting occupation in our holy province will begin to take shape.
(Ari Gold, 7 September 2012 11:00)

I thought Belgrade was liberated at the last election, and true patriots took over!

As for your last remark, Kosova has been liberated from its occupiers in June 1999, and now with Albanian country code 355, it looks like everything Albanian.

"Kazakstan has the same country code as Russia (+7), does that mean that Khazakstan isn't independent? There are plenty of over seas territories with their own country codes, does that make them independent? "
(Ian, UK, 7 September 2012 11:10)

I think Kazakstan simply kept the old prefix from the Soviet Union times, and Russia as well - they didn't choose to take the country code from another neighboring country, let's say, Mongolia.

The country code was one of the outstanding issues that have been on the table for a long time. It looks like Belgrade's strategy of "wait, delay, do not deal with it" is pushing Kosovo towards Albania. We will see if King Berisha I of Albania will decide to play in Pristina's court or in Belgrade's court. His approval is needed on the Albanian side. He received a visit from US State Department few days ago. Another outstanding issues are the documents stolen by Serbian forces when they left in 1999. Maybe that could be dealt with by having a unified document registry with Albania? You see where this is going right?

I must say that for all the money Kosovo Albanians pay in advertising and lobbying for international recognition of their shiny new country, they ultimately are pretty stupid when it comes to making decisions on their own and even dumber when it comes to spending the money they get. If they want to be independent, adopting a calling code from another country isn't the way to go, and adopting the code from Albania is just a sign of immaturity. Oh wait, we're talking about the "Republic of Kosova*" here. I'm sorry, I thought I was talking about a rational place. What do they think will happen? Do they think this will be allowed by the ITU? And will Emperor Berisha accept it? I'm sure all our Albanian friends of the diaspora will think this is perfectly fine but this will never fly.

Besides, the free, sovereign, independent and democratic Republic of Kosovastan already had an international prefix that was non-Serb. It was borrowed from Monaco so this silly little trist with "Greater Albanian" telecommunication is a waste of time.

Ian

I'm here in the UK, how about you and me meeting up so we can discuss some of these issues face to face??

Put your money where your mouth is key board warrior.

LOLOL! I love how you come on here painting your self to be some smart 'ahead of the curb' Westerner (you're Albanian first of all) yet you say some of the dumbest stuff on here.

Same tactic Atishari used when he said 'Switzerland was not a UN member till 2004 and no one questioned its status as a country'...

Well I say this to both of you, there is a difference between, for whatever reason choosing to do something because it makes the most sense and NOT being able to do something because you are not a real country. That is the case for the occupiers in Kosovo i Metohija.
(Ari Gold, 7 September 2012 13:47)

I write dumb stuff on here? That's a bit rich coming from you.

You think I'm Albanian? HA! Add me on facebook and you'll see that I'm a proper North Englishman. Only 100% British blood flows through my veins. Surely a Yanky Keyboard Warrior such as yourself must have facebook? Search 'Ian James Anderson' (it has by name in Gaelic too) and you'll find me, picture of me on an Ice Glacier. Then we can debate one-to-one without B92 moderators if you like ;)

Parrisson , I`d say the other way , so much about "Kosovo is Serbia"
(iso, 7 September 2012 12:03)

That too. And maybe a third thing to add: 'so much about the nice plan of the international community that of Kosovo being a multiethnic, democratic state'

That's for Kosovo to decide dear (as they did). They're not going to ask me or you about that and they don't have to give a reason for that...
(icj1, 8 September 2012 15:21)
===========================

I was actually asking Danilo because HE claimed that it would be more convenient so your answer doesn't make any sense at all and frankly why do you answer questions not directed at you especially when you are not even answering the question?
Do you really think that you can answer for someone else and look smart?
The only think you look like is a smartarse.

Getting an international calling code is one of the very few practical things that Serbia can do to block Kosovo and one of the few things for which UN membership matters (ITU, the organization that gives out telephone codes is a UN organization).

One way or another this is and will continue to be a nightmare for Kosovo. They already have how many codes? Slovenia, Monaco, Serbia (Montenegro - I've heard conflicting reports).

They're really just adding another code on top of this all. They should have done this from the beginning.

It would be a nightmare to switch them all to one, unless these separate companies cooperated carefully to make sure they didn't give out the same numbers after their prefix. I find that impossible to imagine. Trying to unify all numbers under one international prefix is going to be a nightmare for Kosovo.

"here in Canada we have the same country code as the USA (+1). This is called convenience. Nothing to do with independence."
=================================

Fine, then why was it more convenient for Kosovo to adopt Albanian code instead of just do NOTHING and keep the Serbia one?

I visited Kosova last year and to my amazement when you traveled to Albania you were charged 2.90 Euros a minute regardless of whether you received or made a call. I am sure the exact same thing would have happened whether we traveled to Macedonia or Montenegro. I am not sure what the rates are in Serbia. The balkan countries need to come together and form some type of plan to protect the consumers from these extremely high rates. They should take US as an example. One can travel from one side of the country to another and the consumer pays the exact same rate. The US once had these drocanian rates but the US congress intervened and the phone companies were forced to drop the roaming charges. Perhaps the exact same thing can happen with Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia and Serbia.

"The document also requests that the Kosovo government quickly initiates negotiations with the Albanian government on using the new international prefix."

Negotiations? Mr. Superagent Pacolli will fill another suitcase and travel to Tirana, and the deal is done.

"here in Canada we have the same country code as the USA (+1). This is called convenience. Nothing to do with independence."

More like it being a natural part of the North American Numbering Plan, which Canada was a part of since its inception in the 1950's.

But ya, no one thinks Canada isn't a separate country because their phone numbers have the same international prefix.

So much about the 'indipindent Kosova' :)
(Comm. Parrisson, 7 September 2012 09:44)

Independent from Serbia mate... that's all Kosovo cares about. Kosovo would not be offended if you were to tell it that it is dependend from Albania, EU, UN, US, Devil or whatever - as long as it is not Serbia.

Getting an international calling code is one of the very few practical things that Serbia can do to block Kosovo
(Danilo, 7 September 2012 20:11)

Even if that's true, then what ? If Kosovo were to be back under Serbia it will still have Serbia's code. So the blocking can serve to achieve everything, except for Kosovo returning back under Serbia :)

In my opinion UNMIK should deceide on this issue.

And for the rest: people in the Balkan, stop making so much problems with each other. No new states, no new borders. Please!
(So indeed that means: no Kosovo, sorry!)

Fine, then why was it more convenient for Kosovo to adopt Albanian code instead of just do NOTHING and keep the Serbia one?
(Peggy, 8 September 2012 02:32)

That's for Kosovo to decide dear (as they did). They're not going to ask me or you about that and they don't have to give a reason for that...

Ian

I'm here in the UK, how about you and me meeting up so we can discuss some of these issues face to face??

Put your money where your mouth is key board warrior.
(Champion for the underdog, 7 September 2012 20:54)

Come to Yorkshire and I will.

Negotiations? Mr. Superagent Pacolli will fill another suitcase and travel to Tirana, and the deal is done.
(J.Oker, 7 September 2012 18:21)

I wonder how much in debt Mr Pacolli is now. Because according to you Serbians he had more money then Bill Gate in first place, and now one will assume he is broke just because of spending for Kosovo cause.

In my opinion UNMIK should deceide on this issue.
And for the rest: people in the Balkan, stop making so much problems with each other. No new states, no new borders. Please!
(So indeed that means: no Kosovo, sorry!)
(Ron, 8 September 2012 14:59)

Ron, go to the class now! Your teacher is looking for you anywhere.

Ian

I am already in Yorkshire, Halifax to be precise. Now, where and when gobby??

here in Canada we have the same country code as the USA (+1). This is called convenience. Nothing to do with independence.

Peggy,

It's not just about convenience, it's about controlling the revenue for incoming traffic, which is significant.

There was a time when Serbia was blocking calls to Kosovo until they realized that they were shooting themselves in the foot by missing out on the incoming calls revenue.

Money from international calls to Kosovo land lines on the 381 prefix goes to Telekom Serbia.

Ian

I am already in Yorkshire, Halifax to be precise. Now, where and when gobby??
(Champion for the underdog, 8 September 2012 20:01)

Happy days!
by eck, two gobby yorkshiremen about to lock horns :-))
Could this be the clash of the titans? Is the richter scale high enough?
will I feel the thundering vibration here in Naarffaalk................

Please post the results gentlemen!

@Halifax bloke. Haha I was actually in Halifax today buying a car from Dews. I'm there again next Saturday at 1ish. You're not that Serb I met at the Old Hall in Haworth for WW2 weekend recently are you? Failling that you can meet me in Oxenhope, Haworth or Keighley any time you want.

Peggy

Good one girl. That one made me laugh.

"I was actually asking Danilo because HE claimed that it would be more convenient"


BTW, I wasn't. I was quoting:
(liberty, 7 September 2012 15:53)