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Thursday, 15.12.2011.

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Putin accuses U.S. of Gaddafi’s killing

Russian PM Vladimir Putin on Thursday accused the U.S. special forces of being involved in the killing of deposed Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, AFP says.

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Srg

pre 13 godina

http://www.armyrecognition.com/december_2011_army_military_defence_news_uk/greece_is_considering_a_free_offer_from_united_states_for_400_main_battle_tanks_m1_abrams_1012111.html
Ok, this link might work a bit better.

Srg

pre 13 godina

You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.
(Lenard, 15 December 2011 23:07)

There still duping them or wait are they duping themselves? Do ya think maybee a strong Hellenic army is prioritised over money making? Why for free? Maybee Leo just might have a point in what he says.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2011/December/middleeast_December177.xml§ion=middleeast

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

There are a lot more people believing my theories than yours.The established British view was they invaded Iraq and Afganistan because of the threats Saddam and Taliban posed to UK,the WMDS and that Cameron and Sarkozi attacked Gaddafi for humanitarian reasons.I forgot,also to bring democracy which is totally absent in UK.Can you find any poster believing any of this?

But then again pseudo-socialist Albanian trolls like yourself which are incapable of independent thinking would believe the establishment point of view,wouldn't they?Any alternative point of view is a conspiracy theory.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 22:10)

Nah the established view and reasoning behind the War in Iraq in the UK is regime change and for oil.

How is democracy absent in the UK? Please humour me

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

and as forn your ridiculous claim that it has 200 american helicopters at $20 million each - try 7 Bell 47 helicopters built by the Amercians - in the 50/s and 60,s.

Yet again , you have really no idea on what you are talking about.
(truthiness, 16 December 2011 06:56)

Try this for truthiness
http://www.haf.gr/en/mission/weapons/

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.
(Lenard, 15 December 2011 23:07

The same thing I predict will happen to Croatia as well.All Nato members under the rule of " Nato's standard military equipment" will have to spend heavily to buy new modern weaponry which are already used by other member states.Yo should remember Lenard that when a country becomes a member of a club such as Nato or EU is caged for ever.There is no way out.

Arn. Sweden.

pre 13 godina

Why was Ghadaffi Murdered ?

Because he did know to much about Western secrets,
the West did not want to come forward in a Court ?

Was it not the same with Milosevic ?

The West has experts in Murdering People,
so it will not be discovered,
even by the Best Experts invesigating the Matter.

People doesent realy understand World Politic,
that the Good side and The Bad side does not differ in Methods,
only in Aim and Purpose.

Arn.Sweden.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

Leonidas,

If the USA is in terminal decline then Greece has been laying in a coffin and the West has forgotten to bury her. This is the longest wake since funerals have been the custom of burial.

Also, there has never existed a strong Russia, only a strong Soviet Union. Russia is less than a third the size of the USSR. The Russian people no longer fear that little wanna be dictator. Putin's day are numbered. Russia can't even grant citizenship to 20,000 Kosovo Serbs. What kind of Slavic Orthodox brotherhood do you call that?

truthiness

pre 13 godina

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 20:26)

May be an idea to do some fact checking before you post.

Greece has 156 F16 C/D versions (their most expensive fighter) valued at approx $40 mill each - NOT 500 @70 million dollars

It has 57 outdated F4 Phantoms (purchased in the 1970s and subsidised by the US in 'Operation Icarus" - valued in the single digit millions when bought.

51 A-7 Corsair bouight in the 70's for a whopping ...$2.86 million dollars each!

and as forn your ridiculous claim that it has 200 american helicopters at $20 million each - try 7 Bell 47 helicopters built by the Amercians - in the 50/s and 60,s.

All other military aircraft are from other allied countries (France Example)

Yet again , you have really no idea on what you are talking about.

trizo

pre 13 godina

I cannot believe the US are denying they killed Gaddafi without a trial.

This was an operation by the US, Britian, France & Italy.

Germany, strangely enough, was not in on this one.

BT

pre 13 godina

Putin accuses U.S. of killing Gaddafi. The world knows that Putin killed journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Alexander Litvinenko, and he is behind the genocide of civilians in Chechnya!!

Lenard

pre 13 godina

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 20:26) You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

I heard they had Gadaffi killed because they wanted to stop from uniting Libya, Nania and Disneyland; thus creating a new axis of evil.

Or did they have him killed as an act of retaliation because according to you "Nato has been unable to defeat Gadaffi"?

[link]

I think these are more believe conspiracy theories than yours.
(Ian, UK, 15 December 2011 19:52)

There are a lot more people believing my theories than yours.The established British view was they invaded Iraq and Afganistan because of the threats Saddam and Taliban posed to UK,the WMDS and that Cameron and Sarkozi attacked Gaddafi for humanitarian reasons.I forgot,also to bring democracy which is totally absent in UK.Can you find any poster believing any of this?

But then again pseudo-socialist Albanian trolls like yourself which are incapable of independent thinking would believe the establishment point of view,wouldn't they?Any alternative point of view is a conspiracy theory.

Bob

pre 13 godina

Arn Sweden

Yes - for example, his suppression of free media is indicative and well known.

Were his secret services there? Perhaps you know better than me.

As regards who killed Gadaffi - I care more about the tens of thousands who lost their lives than I ever could about that creep.

Putin could be a good democratic president - if only he would defend democracy more than he is prepared to defend his own position.

I note a lot of people on this site are pro-Putin and vehemently anti-west. No surprise to me. However, you are a minority even in Serbia. Good luck to you, but don't hold out to much hope!!! Russia had a pretty poor reputation when it held on to most of Eastern Europe - Russia was a disaster. Tito had the right idea - keep the Russian bear at arms length!

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

What about Greece?

The only reason you are alive is that the USA keeps feeding you. If they go under what do you think will happen to Greece. You think like an Ottoman. Too much useless inat.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 December 2011 18:17

They cannot feed themselves, they have 52 million people on food stamps let alone feeding the Greeks.On the other hand the Albanians are alive because the Greeks feed them.In return the Albanians provide us with drugs,human trafficking,gun crime,robberies,abductions anything that one can find on a crime vocabulary.

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

I heard they had Gadaffi killed because they wanted to stop from uniting Libya, Nania and Disneyland; thus creating a new axis of evil.

Or did they have him killed as an act of retaliation because according to you "Nato has been unable to defeat Gadaffi"?

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=75682

I think these are more believe conspiracy theories than yours.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

Leonidas,

What about Greece?

The only reason you are alive is that the USA keeps feeding you. If they go under what do you think will happen to Greece. You think like an Ottoman. Too much useless inat.

Bob

pre 13 godina

People who are in power too long lose touch with realitity.

It sounds like Putin is losing it.

Putting forward predudices and theories as if they are truth is one of the very obvious signs.

World politics goes better when leaders are in touch with reality.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Russian PM Vladimir Putin on Thursday accused the U.S. special forces of being involved in the killing of deposed Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, AFP says.
B92

It's well documented who was behind Gaddafi's death.But the aim of murdering Gaddafi was not a mere act of revenge as is being portrayed by the Western media, but also the means of hiding the crimes of NATO. The Obama Administration and NATO had Gaddafi killed to prevent him from creating his African Union with its own currency and to put their hands on Libya's energy resources and sovereign fund.Furthermore, the Libyans had a lot of evidence that proved President Nicolas Sarkozy was taking bribery money and was involved in election fraud.

Senator McCain is well known for his right-wing views which sometimes approach the borders of fascism.He recently supported in US congress Bill S1867 that allows the US military to detain US citizens under the threat of terrorism and even send them to Gtmo without trial.

As for Panetta's spokesman denials of any US involvement in Gaddafi's death may I remind him that Panetta himeself denied any US covert operations in Iran three months ago until the Iranians started exhibiting the shot-down drone on state TV two weeks ago.That says a lot about US officials credibility.

Putin is right when he says what the US wanted was for Russia to continue to be the wild west and open up all its resources for exploitation by western companies. Putin brought stability to Russia and stopped the rape of the country by western Oligarchs.

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline

Arn.Sweden.

pre 13 godina

I Quote -

People who are in power too long lose touch with realitity.
It sounds like Putin is losing it.
Putting forward predudices and theories as if they are truth is one of the very obvious signs.
World politics goes better when leaders are in touch with reality.
(Bob, 15 December 2011 15:05)

Comment -

Putin has all Russias Intelligense gathering at his disposal,
and You think you know better than Him ?.

Arn.Sweden

szemi

pre 13 godina

“Mr. McCain, as is known, was taken prisoner in Vietnam. He was kept not in a cell, but in a pit. He was kept there for years. Anyone would go off his trolley, so there is nothing strange about this,” Putin added.

Most US politicians have gone off their trolley without spending a minute in pit.If you are brainwashed from the childhood the mental detergents earlier or later do their trick.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Russian PM Vladimir Putin on Thursday accused the U.S. special forces of being involved in the killing of deposed Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, AFP says.
B92

It's well documented who was behind Gaddafi's death.But the aim of murdering Gaddafi was not a mere act of revenge as is being portrayed by the Western media, but also the means of hiding the crimes of NATO. The Obama Administration and NATO had Gaddafi killed to prevent him from creating his African Union with its own currency and to put their hands on Libya's energy resources and sovereign fund.Furthermore, the Libyans had a lot of evidence that proved President Nicolas Sarkozy was taking bribery money and was involved in election fraud.

Senator McCain is well known for his right-wing views which sometimes approach the borders of fascism.He recently supported in US congress Bill S1867 that allows the US military to detain US citizens under the threat of terrorism and even send them to Gtmo without trial.

As for Panetta's spokesman denials of any US involvement in Gaddafi's death may I remind him that Panetta himeself denied any US covert operations in Iran three months ago until the Iranians started exhibiting the shot-down drone on state TV two weeks ago.That says a lot about US officials credibility.

Putin is right when he says what the US wanted was for Russia to continue to be the wild west and open up all its resources for exploitation by western companies. Putin brought stability to Russia and stopped the rape of the country by western Oligarchs.

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline

szemi

pre 13 godina

“Mr. McCain, as is known, was taken prisoner in Vietnam. He was kept not in a cell, but in a pit. He was kept there for years. Anyone would go off his trolley, so there is nothing strange about this,” Putin added.

Most US politicians have gone off their trolley without spending a minute in pit.If you are brainwashed from the childhood the mental detergents earlier or later do their trick.

Bob

pre 13 godina

People who are in power too long lose touch with realitity.

It sounds like Putin is losing it.

Putting forward predudices and theories as if they are truth is one of the very obvious signs.

World politics goes better when leaders are in touch with reality.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 13 godina

I Quote -

People who are in power too long lose touch with realitity.
It sounds like Putin is losing it.
Putting forward predudices and theories as if they are truth is one of the very obvious signs.
World politics goes better when leaders are in touch with reality.
(Bob, 15 December 2011 15:05)

Comment -

Putin has all Russias Intelligense gathering at his disposal,
and You think you know better than Him ?.

Arn.Sweden

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

What about Greece?

The only reason you are alive is that the USA keeps feeding you. If they go under what do you think will happen to Greece. You think like an Ottoman. Too much useless inat.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 December 2011 18:17

They cannot feed themselves, they have 52 million people on food stamps let alone feeding the Greeks.On the other hand the Albanians are alive because the Greeks feed them.In return the Albanians provide us with drugs,human trafficking,gun crime,robberies,abductions anything that one can find on a crime vocabulary.

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.

Bob

pre 13 godina

Arn Sweden

Yes - for example, his suppression of free media is indicative and well known.

Were his secret services there? Perhaps you know better than me.

As regards who killed Gadaffi - I care more about the tens of thousands who lost their lives than I ever could about that creep.

Putin could be a good democratic president - if only he would defend democracy more than he is prepared to defend his own position.

I note a lot of people on this site are pro-Putin and vehemently anti-west. No surprise to me. However, you are a minority even in Serbia. Good luck to you, but don't hold out to much hope!!! Russia had a pretty poor reputation when it held on to most of Eastern Europe - Russia was a disaster. Tito had the right idea - keep the Russian bear at arms length!

BT

pre 13 godina

Putin accuses U.S. of killing Gaddafi. The world knows that Putin killed journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Alexander Litvinenko, and he is behind the genocide of civilians in Chechnya!!

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

I heard they had Gadaffi killed because they wanted to stop from uniting Libya, Nania and Disneyland; thus creating a new axis of evil.

Or did they have him killed as an act of retaliation because according to you "Nato has been unable to defeat Gadaffi"?

[link]

I think these are more believe conspiracy theories than yours.
(Ian, UK, 15 December 2011 19:52)

There are a lot more people believing my theories than yours.The established British view was they invaded Iraq and Afganistan because of the threats Saddam and Taliban posed to UK,the WMDS and that Cameron and Sarkozi attacked Gaddafi for humanitarian reasons.I forgot,also to bring democracy which is totally absent in UK.Can you find any poster believing any of this?

But then again pseudo-socialist Albanian trolls like yourself which are incapable of independent thinking would believe the establishment point of view,wouldn't they?Any alternative point of view is a conspiracy theory.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 20:26) You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.
(Lenard, 15 December 2011 23:07

The same thing I predict will happen to Croatia as well.All Nato members under the rule of " Nato's standard military equipment" will have to spend heavily to buy new modern weaponry which are already used by other member states.Yo should remember Lenard that when a country becomes a member of a club such as Nato or EU is caged for ever.There is no way out.

trizo

pre 13 godina

I cannot believe the US are denying they killed Gaddafi without a trial.

This was an operation by the US, Britian, France & Italy.

Germany, strangely enough, was not in on this one.

Arn. Sweden.

pre 13 godina

Why was Ghadaffi Murdered ?

Because he did know to much about Western secrets,
the West did not want to come forward in a Court ?

Was it not the same with Milosevic ?

The West has experts in Murdering People,
so it will not be discovered,
even by the Best Experts invesigating the Matter.

People doesent realy understand World Politic,
that the Good side and The Bad side does not differ in Methods,
only in Aim and Purpose.

Arn.Sweden.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

Leonidas,

What about Greece?

The only reason you are alive is that the USA keeps feeding you. If they go under what do you think will happen to Greece. You think like an Ottoman. Too much useless inat.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

and as forn your ridiculous claim that it has 200 american helicopters at $20 million each - try 7 Bell 47 helicopters built by the Amercians - in the 50/s and 60,s.

Yet again , you have really no idea on what you are talking about.
(truthiness, 16 December 2011 06:56)

Try this for truthiness
http://www.haf.gr/en/mission/weapons/

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

I heard they had Gadaffi killed because they wanted to stop from uniting Libya, Nania and Disneyland; thus creating a new axis of evil.

Or did they have him killed as an act of retaliation because according to you "Nato has been unable to defeat Gadaffi"?

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=75682

I think these are more believe conspiracy theories than yours.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

Leonidas,

If the USA is in terminal decline then Greece has been laying in a coffin and the West has forgotten to bury her. This is the longest wake since funerals have been the custom of burial.

Also, there has never existed a strong Russia, only a strong Soviet Union. Russia is less than a third the size of the USSR. The Russian people no longer fear that little wanna be dictator. Putin's day are numbered. Russia can't even grant citizenship to 20,000 Kosovo Serbs. What kind of Slavic Orthodox brotherhood do you call that?

truthiness

pre 13 godina

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 20:26)

May be an idea to do some fact checking before you post.

Greece has 156 F16 C/D versions (their most expensive fighter) valued at approx $40 mill each - NOT 500 @70 million dollars

It has 57 outdated F4 Phantoms (purchased in the 1970s and subsidised by the US in 'Operation Icarus" - valued in the single digit millions when bought.

51 A-7 Corsair bouight in the 70's for a whopping ...$2.86 million dollars each!

and as forn your ridiculous claim that it has 200 american helicopters at $20 million each - try 7 Bell 47 helicopters built by the Amercians - in the 50/s and 60,s.

All other military aircraft are from other allied countries (France Example)

Yet again , you have really no idea on what you are talking about.

Srg

pre 13 godina

You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.
(Lenard, 15 December 2011 23:07)

There still duping them or wait are they duping themselves? Do ya think maybee a strong Hellenic army is prioritised over money making? Why for free? Maybee Leo just might have a point in what he says.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2011/December/middleeast_December177.xml§ion=middleeast

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

There are a lot more people believing my theories than yours.The established British view was they invaded Iraq and Afganistan because of the threats Saddam and Taliban posed to UK,the WMDS and that Cameron and Sarkozi attacked Gaddafi for humanitarian reasons.I forgot,also to bring democracy which is totally absent in UK.Can you find any poster believing any of this?

But then again pseudo-socialist Albanian trolls like yourself which are incapable of independent thinking would believe the establishment point of view,wouldn't they?Any alternative point of view is a conspiracy theory.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 22:10)

Nah the established view and reasoning behind the War in Iraq in the UK is regime change and for oil.

How is democracy absent in the UK? Please humour me

Srg

pre 13 godina

http://www.armyrecognition.com/december_2011_army_military_defence_news_uk/greece_is_considering_a_free_offer_from_united_states_for_400_main_battle_tanks_m1_abrams_1012111.html
Ok, this link might work a bit better.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

Leonidas,

What about Greece?

The only reason you are alive is that the USA keeps feeding you. If they go under what do you think will happen to Greece. You think like an Ottoman. Too much useless inat.

Bob

pre 13 godina

People who are in power too long lose touch with realitity.

It sounds like Putin is losing it.

Putting forward predudices and theories as if they are truth is one of the very obvious signs.

World politics goes better when leaders are in touch with reality.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

Russian PM Vladimir Putin on Thursday accused the U.S. special forces of being involved in the killing of deposed Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi, AFP says.
B92

It's well documented who was behind Gaddafi's death.But the aim of murdering Gaddafi was not a mere act of revenge as is being portrayed by the Western media, but also the means of hiding the crimes of NATO. The Obama Administration and NATO had Gaddafi killed to prevent him from creating his African Union with its own currency and to put their hands on Libya's energy resources and sovereign fund.Furthermore, the Libyans had a lot of evidence that proved President Nicolas Sarkozy was taking bribery money and was involved in election fraud.

Senator McCain is well known for his right-wing views which sometimes approach the borders of fascism.He recently supported in US congress Bill S1867 that allows the US military to detain US citizens under the threat of terrorism and even send them to Gtmo without trial.

As for Panetta's spokesman denials of any US involvement in Gaddafi's death may I remind him that Panetta himeself denied any US covert operations in Iran three months ago until the Iranians started exhibiting the shot-down drone on state TV two weeks ago.That says a lot about US officials credibility.

Putin is right when he says what the US wanted was for Russia to continue to be the wild west and open up all its resources for exploitation by western companies. Putin brought stability to Russia and stopped the rape of the country by western Oligarchs.

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline

Bob

pre 13 godina

Arn Sweden

Yes - for example, his suppression of free media is indicative and well known.

Were his secret services there? Perhaps you know better than me.

As regards who killed Gadaffi - I care more about the tens of thousands who lost their lives than I ever could about that creep.

Putin could be a good democratic president - if only he would defend democracy more than he is prepared to defend his own position.

I note a lot of people on this site are pro-Putin and vehemently anti-west. No surprise to me. However, you are a minority even in Serbia. Good luck to you, but don't hold out to much hope!!! Russia had a pretty poor reputation when it held on to most of Eastern Europe - Russia was a disaster. Tito had the right idea - keep the Russian bear at arms length!

BT

pre 13 godina

Putin accuses U.S. of killing Gaddafi. The world knows that Putin killed journalist Anna Politkovskaya, Alexander Litvinenko, and he is behind the genocide of civilians in Chechnya!!

Arn.Sweden.

pre 13 godina

I Quote -

People who are in power too long lose touch with realitity.
It sounds like Putin is losing it.
Putting forward predudices and theories as if they are truth is one of the very obvious signs.
World politics goes better when leaders are in touch with reality.
(Bob, 15 December 2011 15:05)

Comment -

Putin has all Russias Intelligense gathering at his disposal,
and You think you know better than Him ?.

Arn.Sweden

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

What about Greece?

The only reason you are alive is that the USA keeps feeding you. If they go under what do you think will happen to Greece. You think like an Ottoman. Too much useless inat.
(The Count of Kosova, 15 December 2011 18:17

They cannot feed themselves, they have 52 million people on food stamps let alone feeding the Greeks.On the other hand the Albanians are alive because the Greeks feed them.In return the Albanians provide us with drugs,human trafficking,gun crime,robberies,abductions anything that one can find on a crime vocabulary.

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.

The Count of Kosova

pre 13 godina

The world needs a strong Russia to keep these neo con thugs of the west from looting the world.McCain and his fellow travellers need to learn to live with the fact that the USA is in terminal decline
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

Leonidas,

If the USA is in terminal decline then Greece has been laying in a coffin and the West has forgotten to bury her. This is the longest wake since funerals have been the custom of burial.

Also, there has never existed a strong Russia, only a strong Soviet Union. Russia is less than a third the size of the USSR. The Russian people no longer fear that little wanna be dictator. Putin's day are numbered. Russia can't even grant citizenship to 20,000 Kosovo Serbs. What kind of Slavic Orthodox brotherhood do you call that?

szemi

pre 13 godina

“Mr. McCain, as is known, was taken prisoner in Vietnam. He was kept not in a cell, but in a pit. He was kept there for years. Anyone would go off his trolley, so there is nothing strange about this,” Putin added.

Most US politicians have gone off their trolley without spending a minute in pit.If you are brainwashed from the childhood the mental detergents earlier or later do their trick.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 15:39)

I heard they had Gadaffi killed because they wanted to stop from uniting Libya, Nania and Disneyland; thus creating a new axis of evil.

Or did they have him killed as an act of retaliation because according to you "Nato has been unable to defeat Gadaffi"?

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=75682

I think these are more believe conspiracy theories than yours.

truthiness

pre 13 godina

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 20:26)

May be an idea to do some fact checking before you post.

Greece has 156 F16 C/D versions (their most expensive fighter) valued at approx $40 mill each - NOT 500 @70 million dollars

It has 57 outdated F4 Phantoms (purchased in the 1970s and subsidised by the US in 'Operation Icarus" - valued in the single digit millions when bought.

51 A-7 Corsair bouight in the 70's for a whopping ...$2.86 million dollars each!

and as forn your ridiculous claim that it has 200 american helicopters at $20 million each - try 7 Bell 47 helicopters built by the Amercians - in the 50/s and 60,s.

All other military aircraft are from other allied countries (France Example)

Yet again , you have really no idea on what you are talking about.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

I heard they had Gadaffi killed because they wanted to stop from uniting Libya, Nania and Disneyland; thus creating a new axis of evil.

Or did they have him killed as an act of retaliation because according to you "Nato has been unable to defeat Gadaffi"?

[link]

I think these are more believe conspiracy theories than yours.
(Ian, UK, 15 December 2011 19:52)

There are a lot more people believing my theories than yours.The established British view was they invaded Iraq and Afganistan because of the threats Saddam and Taliban posed to UK,the WMDS and that Cameron and Sarkozi attacked Gaddafi for humanitarian reasons.I forgot,also to bring democracy which is totally absent in UK.Can you find any poster believing any of this?

But then again pseudo-socialist Albanian trolls like yourself which are incapable of independent thinking would believe the establishment point of view,wouldn't they?Any alternative point of view is a conspiracy theory.

Lenard

pre 13 godina

If you take into consideration that a small country like Greece with more than 500 military fighter planes made in USA at $70 million each,200 helicopters at $20 million each, even an ungrateful Albanoturk like yourself can work out the numbers.

It is the Greeks who provide employment to thousands of Americans and not the other way round.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 20:26) You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.

Arn. Sweden.

pre 13 godina

Why was Ghadaffi Murdered ?

Because he did know to much about Western secrets,
the West did not want to come forward in a Court ?

Was it not the same with Milosevic ?

The West has experts in Murdering People,
so it will not be discovered,
even by the Best Experts invesigating the Matter.

People doesent realy understand World Politic,
that the Good side and The Bad side does not differ in Methods,
only in Aim and Purpose.

Arn.Sweden.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.
(Lenard, 15 December 2011 23:07

The same thing I predict will happen to Croatia as well.All Nato members under the rule of " Nato's standard military equipment" will have to spend heavily to buy new modern weaponry which are already used by other member states.Yo should remember Lenard that when a country becomes a member of a club such as Nato or EU is caged for ever.There is no way out.

Ian, UK

pre 13 godina

There are a lot more people believing my theories than yours.The established British view was they invaded Iraq and Afganistan because of the threats Saddam and Taliban posed to UK,the WMDS and that Cameron and Sarkozi attacked Gaddafi for humanitarian reasons.I forgot,also to bring democracy which is totally absent in UK.Can you find any poster believing any of this?

But then again pseudo-socialist Albanian trolls like yourself which are incapable of independent thinking would believe the establishment point of view,wouldn't they?Any alternative point of view is a conspiracy theory.
(Leonidas, 15 December 2011 22:10)

Nah the established view and reasoning behind the War in Iraq in the UK is regime change and for oil.

How is democracy absent in the UK? Please humour me

trizo

pre 13 godina

I cannot believe the US are denying they killed Gaddafi without a trial.

This was an operation by the US, Britian, France & Italy.

Germany, strangely enough, was not in on this one.

Leonidas

pre 13 godina

and as forn your ridiculous claim that it has 200 american helicopters at $20 million each - try 7 Bell 47 helicopters built by the Amercians - in the 50/s and 60,s.

Yet again , you have really no idea on what you are talking about.
(truthiness, 16 December 2011 06:56)

Try this for truthiness
http://www.haf.gr/en/mission/weapons/

Srg

pre 13 godina

You Greeks sure duped them borrowed their own money to pay for the fighters which you Greeks cant even afford. Now all you have to declare bankruptcy its all free then and head back to the beach the Albanians pick your olives tend the goats for almost nothing life is good.
(Lenard, 15 December 2011 23:07)

There still duping them or wait are they duping themselves? Do ya think maybee a strong Hellenic army is prioritised over money making? Why for free? Maybee Leo just might have a point in what he says.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle08.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2011/December/middleeast_December177.xml§ion=middleeast

Srg

pre 13 godina

http://www.armyrecognition.com/december_2011_army_military_defence_news_uk/greece_is_considering_a_free_offer_from_united_states_for_400_main_battle_tanks_m1_abrams_1012111.html
Ok, this link might work a bit better.