Tadić tells Serbs to leave barricades

Thank you Mr. Tadic for reaffirming what we already knew. You are a traitor and should be ashamed of yourself. Instead of helping your people in Kosovo and protecting them you have officially turned your back on them to the orders of your daddy (the U.S and EU). Didn't your parents ever teach you to grow up and be a man and to be your own person. Shameful! May God have mercy on your soul. You have betrayed the people that believed in you and voted you into office. There is a need for early elections and God willing Serbia will not receive EU candidate status next week and will never become a part of this mafia organization. For the brave Serbs in Kosovo keep believing and fighting the world is watching. DO NOT LEAVE THR BARRICADES. ZIVELA SRPSKA KOSOVO I METOHIJA.

If there was ever any doubt about Tadic's complicity in turning over Kosovo, he just ended it.

And you, Mr. Tadic leave Serbia now!

History repeating. Germans and Austrians on Serbian lands.

The problem is that Tadic isn't offering the Kosovo Serbs an alternative.
Its easy to say 'leave the barricades', but what can Tadic offer in return, in terms of assurances?

If the answer is nothing this appears as purely a political statement, Tadic is not serious, Serbs at the barricades won't take it seriously and Tadic hopes that such a statement will keep the internationals happy.

All pretty pointless, nothing new then. By the way I don't really believe that international troops are silly enough to start shooting live rounds at Kosovo Serbs. This would cause a major crisis and would not look good in western capitals. At the same time it would radicalise Belgrade and possibly increase support for radical parties in Serbia.

Its a lose-lose scenario and if I was a western policy maker I would no way alow it to unfold.

Nice diplomatic gesture. Gotta look good for the sake of smooth negotiations. Meanwhile his interior minister and top general are talking war. Who is Tadic fooling? Judging by comments, lots of people on both sides who cant see the big picture.

Tadic, just fu** off from your role, you are not wANTED

This scumbag better step down before the citizens take to the streets and throw his butt out.

It is no wonder the people of KiM do not listen to this sell-out, who revises history to suit himself.

No coincidence that KFOR (in this case German and Austrian troops) are doing these actions now. Perhaps Germany and Austria do not want Serbia to get candidate status? It is all cooked up. Germany and Austria return to the scene of the crime.

History repeating. Germans and Austrians on Serbian lands.
Wally, 29 November 2011 16:58)
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Yes, and Tadic is the new Nedic. NATO are the new NAZIs. The US is the new Germany. China is the new US.

Fortunately, we all know which side ends up winning. Unfortunately, not many know why.

You can talk about investors but you are loosing your country.
What is more important?

People in the EU do not care a shit about Serbia, we only consider you to be a pain in the as.

Tadic is smart. German, Austrian and US soldiers have been given orders to use live ammo next time. Tadic realized that it's over, he tried.

Always the Serbs the destabilizing trouble making element of the region. You don't even have to imagine if their were not a stronger power in the region to keep them in check. The Serbs would be running helter skelter just read the international news the world puts 99% the violence at Serbs feet http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1089460--siddiqui-long-balkan-endgame-feeds-insecurity . Boris Tadić just a the front man of the "reasonable" Serbs but actions speak louder then a lot of meaningless words for Bosnia, Kosovo and region. Time for Serbs to start living in reality and put the radical murderous destructive Greater Belgrade Serbia pogroms in the dustbin start living finally as good honest neighbours.

Politics. He has no control over them so he wants to distance himself from them.

At last bold move by Serbian president. When push comes to shove Serbs understand that use of force is imminent, so the comedies aof the past are history. After all, you cant push the wall with naked head. Unless you recognise the reality on the ground you go nowhere, no EU, no regional meetings, NOWHERE.

"He also says that any escalation in Kosovo endangers Serbia's interest and stressed that mistakes from the 90s must not be repeated when representatives of Serbs rejected the Vance-Owen plan and plan Z-4."

Z4 was to create autonomy for Serbs in Croatia, which is now purged of Serbs. Serbs needed autonomy in Croatia to protect themselves from the historical persecution by the Croatians. The Vance-Owen plan was about Bosnia, but Serbs have autonomy in Bosnia. What was great about the Vance-Owen plan?

But this is Kosovo. Everyone who respects history and understands the players in demands for an independent Kosovo knows that Serbs in Kosovo are not like Serbs in Bosnia or Croatia. You don't have to be Serbian to see this. Why can't Tadic see this? That's very strange.

Should Serbs evacuate Kosovo and remove it like a diseased limb from Serbia? What will the borders be like then? Would any Serb in their right mind allow free traffic from Albanian run Kosovo into and through Serbia? Does anyone else really want this?

Leave the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia to the Serbs. Pristina is unfit to manage any of the borders of Kosovo. How are the borders being run between Kosovo and Albania? Is anybody watching this? Obviously not.

"All pretty pointless, nothing new then. By the way I don't really believe that international troops are silly enough to start shooting live rounds at Kosovo Serbs"
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Have you been asleep lately? They already have. Haven't you seen bullets being removed from Serbs in a hospital?
If you haven't then maybe this will wake you up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsTtvt9Nrww

Time to wake up bgannon and realize that Serbs have been targeted.

Serbia's interest is not in the EU!

Tadic have no control over soon to be Russian citizens in north Kosovo. Just one of his PR stunts.

Tadic is lining up his scapegoat for failure to get candidacy that was never to be - watch for the lies after the 9th Dec - it was the fault of anybody but me and my sellouts who surround me - what a waste of 4 years under this EU has no alternative trash!

Keep to your principles and hold the barricades after the 9th Dec the sellouts will be out and Serbia will always have options and alternatives;

At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side, and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Ireneus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth—no one

—St. Sava to Ireneus, 13th century

Serbia has and always will forge its own way and that Tadic fails to comprehend with his blindness to only the EU (read West). DS is falling apart internal squables are becoming obvious and Tadic is yesterdays man with these comments.

the noose is tightening. it seems the administration in Belgrade have finally got the message. Kosovo or EU, sure as hell not both. if ordinary Serbs object to having that choice, do the following, vote for a non-EU party at your upcoming elections. my prediction? Tadic will win again. there is no doubt in my mind that the average Serb inside Serbia proper does not give a rats ass about Kosovo. he/she is more preoccupied with the need for work, a decent income, education and pension. being held hostage to 50000 Serbs in Mitrovica sure as hell isn't top of the agenda. How much has it cost Serbia till now? move on

Tadic is becoming a supporter of independence of Kosovo. He will recognize it soon! That's the only explanation for behaving so much like a traitor in asking serbs to leave the barricades.

Here are a few comments from the Serbian site on B92. Looks like the Serbs have given up on Tadic. He should be history after the next election.

Predsedniče SRAM VAS BILO ...
(MILE, 29. novembar 2011 13:39)
Preporučujem (+1309) Ne preporučujem (-216)

necemo gospodine predsednice... i sta sad?
(mi branimo nase za razliku od vas, 29. novembar 2011 13:35)
Preporučujem (+1753) Ne preporučujem (-346)

tadicu napusti mesto predsednika!
(nikolao, 29. novembar 2011 13:34)
Preporučujem (+1610) Ne preporučujem (-281)

and that is a huge military base with Russians in just an hour from Kosova and another smaller for quick reaction even closer in just less than 30min well equipped and trained.
(ben, 29 November 2011 15:52)

I honestly wish, you would be right. The only good alternative to few Russian bases is more Russian bases, the bigger the better with more arms the better.

Tadic is becoming a supporter of independence of Kosovo. He will recognize it soon! That's the only explanation for behaving so much like a traitor in asking serbs to leave the barricades.
(Brian, 29 November 2011 19:07)

I know, you know and we all know that is true. Tadic knows the facts, and is speaking the truth.

(DuShawn, 29 November 2011 14:28)

you are right!

Who cares what Tadic says what he does is importnat and that is a huge military base with Russians in just an hour from Kosova and another smaller for quick reaction even closer in just less than 30min well equipped and trained.

No one can say that he isn't right, though, regardless of your opinion on Kosovo. I don't think any Serb is going to give up easily and say, "Well, yeah, just give Kosovo away" due to its close integration to Serbian society and culture, but, how, LEGITIMATELY (I don't want to hear some crap about VS going back in there to "remove the vermin" or whatever, because that just simply won't work at all) does anyone actually believe they can do that? Kosovo has enough international backing to keep the north for itself, and no amount of Serbian opposition is going to counter that.

It says a lot about the people protesting, though. I mean, on the one hand, I admire them for being persistent in trying to claim what they want, but shouldn't they be looking after themselves in a more fruitful manner? Shouldn't they be looking for jobs, even if that means they have to move from Kosovo to Central Serbia which, in turn, might benefit the industry of Serbia proper? Great societies are those which are a collection of grand individuals, not a grand collection of individuals in its own. They're just making themselves look like idiots by thinking of NOTHING ELSE but blooming roadblocks and barricades. I don't want to comment on the state of living in Northern Kosovo given that I've never been there, but surely there are more practical ways of improving their own lives instead of hanging around a barricade and expecting the state to improve things for them. Wtf? What a lame attitude.

Fine della commedia....

Very clever Mr. Tadic but this ploy will never work. Your IM and the defense minister both are implying that in the event the situation deteriorates they have plans on how to deal with the situation. They are both indirectly raising hopes of the local Serbs and indirectly encouraging more violence against the international troops.

You cant have it both ways. Either you sue for peace or you go for a war but not both as it will never work. Speak to your defense chief and IM and ask them what exactly they have in mind in the event KSF with NATO's blessing decides to secure Kosovo's borders while at same time mopping the area which is another word for ethnic cleansing. What then? Should Serbia go to war against NATO? We all know what the outcome will be?

Karl-believe me the feeling is mutual. Have you sold your euros yet? You're going down, and it'll be fun watching you drown.

Theres a good boy, doping as you're told. Well done.

We should perhaps reward him with a dog treat.

Europe is looking to Germany to save it from financial catastrophe, Germany is not enthusiastic about taking on one more small, poor, aging (i.e., with a looming pension crisis) country having problems with its neighbors, and yesterday the German commander and a soldier were shot by these magnificent log-sitters. Did Tadic have a very serious conversation with EU representatives, or did he figure it all out for himself?

'Tadic tells Serbs to leave barricades'

Serbs tell Tadic to leave presidency

First go home then no hand outs anymore.

Sadly, I have seen an ever increasing number of Serbs in Serbia who might not support Tadic but who also do not give a damn if we keep or lose Kosovo! The majority of these believe that it would indeed be better if we just let the Pristina mob have Kosovo and we Serbs then move on to the land of honey and marshmallows! The bankrupt EU will then throw millions upon millions of Euros into the new Serbian promise land and every man woman and child will have a job waiting for them !!!

As sarcastic as this may sound, go to Knez Mihailova and ask the 20 year old kid with his new 60 Euro jeans why we should fight to save our Kosovo! At bestvhe might laugh! With this I want to say that whils Tadic certainly takes 90% of the blame, it is the Serb on the street that is the real apathetic sellout merchant!

Very clever of Mr. Tadic to now brand all of us who want to fight for our Kosovo as "90's" style extremists! How dare he? That makes his own defence minister one too!

My guess is that Tadic knows his time is up but he wants the US and EU to remember who to vote for in eight years time! He hopes to come back and tell us all that he "told us so" when Serbia is stll not in the EU and the financial situation is more desperate! The question is just how many of us are willing to endure this to make and win our point! I have a big mouth but I live in Australia - my fellow Serbs have to live through this in Kosovo and Serbia every day!

unlike most of you i am too busy trying to make ends meet and provide for my family to give a damn about a place ive never been or would ever want to go to. its nice to see so many of you live prosperous lives leaving ample time to worry about someplace most of you havent been to either.

Boris Tadic has called on Serbs from northern Kosovo to withdraw from the barricades.
Obviously Tadic is thinking of the immediate but not long term welfare of these northern Kosovo Serbs.
Interestingly, however, every Serbian man, woman and child in Serbia and in the wider Serbian diaspora along with many of their friends for one reason or another are encouraging and praising and praying for these Kosovo Serbs to remain on the barricades. We pray for their safety and for their honour and for their human and sovereign rights. We are also collecting money for their survival. May God Bless everyone of these brave and honourable Serbian souls and keep them safe.

Little Boris is most concerned that if a solution is not found to this Kosovo crises his bonus from the EU will evaporate like his Serbian patriotism.
Boris is a fifth columnist who has received many medals from Germany, and he needs to show some results. Berlin and Vienna want to teach the Serbs a lesson so their storm troopers are out in force, but let me just warn those to be very careful. Little Boris cant think what to do so out comes the 1990s and make an idiotic attempt at frightening the Serbs ‘’’it’s back to the bad old days ….Milosevic. This so called president is not worthy of shining Milosevic’s shoes let alone lead a country as great as Serbia.

MY,MY sounds like the USA/NATO/EU is getting a little tired of their TADIC.He is getting in hot water with his PAYMASTERS.

yeah i guess the "Kos" in kosovo never existed either,wonder where that came from?ohh wait!

What have you done in supporting the Citizens in Kosovo?? nothing! Nothing Mr. Tadic. The Serbian people will remember you in the election as being a "WEAK" President. Enough with the Democrats and it's time to elect Nationalists.

Contradictory statesment ?.

I quote -

"The barricades are not contributing to the defense of Serb national interests. On the contrary, they are endangering them."

The president of Serbia also warned KFOR soldiers not to remove the barricades, because that action endangers the lives of the citizens and could produce a risk in northern Kosovo.

Comment -

Which way does He want it ?.
This Serbian Precident are calling EU candidative status - "Serbian National Intressts" -
He is gambling with Serbian Civillian lifes by demanding that they leave the barricades althoug He Himseld know yhey are the last Fence and Stanse for the Serbian Civilians Protection.
That is the Policy of His

Further -

His appraisal is that this is a vicious circle from which there is no way out and that benefits only extremists. We cannot solve problems in this way, said Tadić.

Comment - He cant have it bouth ways - He has failed - He is a Looser.

Arn.Sweden.

"Sadly, I have seen an ever increasing number of Serbs in Serbia who might not support Tadic but who also do not give a damn if we keep or lose Kosovo!"

You know why this is Mr Slobodan Maric? Because Kosovo is just an illusion. that is all. i've always tried hard to look at the Serbian argument objectively and yet i do not see any rational behind it. How is it beneficial to Serbia to keep Kosovo? 9 out of 10 people who live there are not prepared to be under Serbia's rule again. that means, they are not willing to pay taxes for them, not willing to be obedient citizens, in short they are prepared to take up arms to make sure it doesn't happen. So logically, it makes no sense. The other bit that some Serb citizens seem to have missed is that keeping Kosovo means keeping the Albanians who live there. You will not be able to get rid of them. with that, it means you have to give them equal rights in voting, in parliaments in everything else. so basically, it means an Albanian could run to be president of Serbia. I have not met a single Serb who will consider that idea. This is why the ordinary Serb IN Serbia does not care about Kosovo, because they know its lost and because Serbia is a lot healthier without it. On this forum we have Serb diaspora contributers who do not need to compete for 300 EURO's a month jobs, who do not need work permits to seek employment in the West, who do not face travel restrictions...so its easy for them to care for Kosovo. I tell you what, rip up your Australian citizenship and live in Serbia and see whether finding a decent living or Kosovo is more important

I wonder where this title came from " Tadiç tolld serbs to leave the barricades" this may be a news to serbs but not to the world thanks to the rest of his statement. Everything in his statement Confirms that serbia is well behind and is not interested or resolving the issues. New ICO reports show none of the serbs in North bothered to see Ahtisari plan but they refus it as it is before even being able to tell anything what is on Ahtisari plan. Read it before you refuse something because it was shame to see on report that people refused it and when asked what was you dont agree they were unable to say anything

"every Serbian man, woman and child in Serbia and in the wider Serbian diaspora along with many of their friends for one reason or another are encouraging and praising and praying for these Kosovo Serbs to remain on the barricades. "

This is part of the problem isn't it? That every Serb in the diaspora is not prepared to actually go to Kosovo and see for themselves how it is, but rather is encouraging nationalism so that they can a certain way when visiting Serbia. They do not offer them anything in real terms, only incantation.

"Enough with the Democrats and it's time to elect Nationalists."

Yes...believe that is what Kosova needs right now, another madman to lead your country. How did it go the last time a Serb president played the nationalist card? Serbs were driven off Krajina, 100000 of them died in Bosnia and Kosova was lost. Not to mention the diplomatic isolation and the terrible state of Serbia's economy. Please by all means, do vote another Milosevic in, that's what I'll be hoping for.

"Boris Tadić has called on Serbs from northern Kosovo to withdraw from barricades"

WOW!!!!!! KOSOVO IS GONE AMPUTATION AND CAPITULATION COMPLETED

Vasa

"Boris Tadić has called on Serbs from northern Kosovo to withdraw from barricades."

What is this guy speaking about ? Doesn't he understand that Kosovo is independent from Serbia and Kosovo citizens don't take order from Belgrade. They are going to remain at the barricades whether Boris likes it or not; there is nothing that Boris can do about it.

The fact is that Europe failed miserably in allowing something like Kosovo (not per se, just in the form it is now) to be created on it's own territory... As Paul mentioned, completely unable to manage it's own borders, and with all the issues Europe is facing economically, undeveloped parts of Europe where everything smells like blood (again) are on footnotes of priority... They will realize again when it spills over, like it is happening with PIGS economies and numerous other stuff... Everything that is happening in Europe right now is so much in that quote from Boris Pasternak: "As for the men in power, they are so anxious to establish the myth of infallibility that they do their utmost to ignore truth."...

Leave the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia to the Serbs. Pristina is unfit to manage any of the borders of Kosovo. How are the borders being run between Kosovo and Albania? Is anybody watching this? Obviously not.
(Paul, 29 November 2011 22:41)

Oh yes we are; HD cameras running at 1080p resolution, not even a bee can pass through without proper documentation.

Yes...believe that is what Kosova needs right now, another madman to lead your country. How did it go the last time a Serb president played the nationalist card? Serbs were driven off Krajina, 100000 of them died in Bosnia and Kosova was lost. Not to mention the diplomatic isolation and the terrible state of Serbia's economy. Please by all means, do vote another Milosevic in, that's what I'll be hoping for.
(alban, 30 November 2011 11:21)

@Alban.

I agree with your comments, that it would be to Albanian's favor to have another mad man lead this poor country, but I disagree with your wording that "Serbia lost Kosova". It was never theirs and it will never be; is was, it is and it always be an Albanian land.

Kosova for Serbs was like a leased car; you lease it cause you have money and power, but eventually it goes back to the right owners, the bank, in this case back to Albaninas. We have banked this one and it's the end of the story.

So yes, do cry me a river; It's a done deal, to all you Serbs quit crying like little babies already and listen to your president

"I am referring to all those who think patriotism is expressed through violence, as was the case in the 1990s," Tadić said, asked by reporters about how the incidents in Jagnjenica will affect Serbia's candidacy bid.

Oh my god even your own President is telling you guys to get your act together. What more proof do you want that you should stop being hotheaded and move on, you messed up with Kosovo, let it go.

Tadic is smart. German, Austrian and US soldiers have been given orders to use live ammo next time. Tadic realized that it's over, he tried.

Always the Serbs the destabilizing trouble making element of the region. You don't even have to imagine if their were not a stronger power in the region to keep them in check. The Serbs would be running helter skelter just read the international news the world puts 99% the violence at Serbs feet http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1089460--siddiqui-long-balkan-endgame-feeds-insecurity . Boris Tadić just a the front man of the "reasonable" Serbs but actions speak louder then a lot of meaningless words for Bosnia, Kosovo and region. Time for Serbs to start living in reality and put the radical murderous destructive Greater Belgrade Serbia pogroms in the dustbin start living finally as good honest neighbours.

the noose is tightening. it seems the administration in Belgrade have finally got the message. Kosovo or EU, sure as hell not both. if ordinary Serbs object to having that choice, do the following, vote for a non-EU party at your upcoming elections. my prediction? Tadic will win again. there is no doubt in my mind that the average Serb inside Serbia proper does not give a rats ass about Kosovo. he/she is more preoccupied with the need for work, a decent income, education and pension. being held hostage to 50000 Serbs in Mitrovica sure as hell isn't top of the agenda. How much has it cost Serbia till now? move on

No one can say that he isn't right, though, regardless of your opinion on Kosovo. I don't think any Serb is going to give up easily and say, "Well, yeah, just give Kosovo away" due to its close integration to Serbian society and culture, but, how, LEGITIMATELY (I don't want to hear some crap about VS going back in there to "remove the vermin" or whatever, because that just simply won't work at all) does anyone actually believe they can do that? Kosovo has enough international backing to keep the north for itself, and no amount of Serbian opposition is going to counter that.

It says a lot about the people protesting, though. I mean, on the one hand, I admire them for being persistent in trying to claim what they want, but shouldn't they be looking after themselves in a more fruitful manner? Shouldn't they be looking for jobs, even if that means they have to move from Kosovo to Central Serbia which, in turn, might benefit the industry of Serbia proper? Great societies are those which are a collection of grand individuals, not a grand collection of individuals in its own. They're just making themselves look like idiots by thinking of NOTHING ELSE but blooming roadblocks and barricades. I don't want to comment on the state of living in Northern Kosovo given that I've never been there, but surely there are more practical ways of improving their own lives instead of hanging around a barricade and expecting the state to improve things for them. Wtf? What a lame attitude.

Thank you Mr. Tadic for reaffirming what we already knew. You are a traitor and should be ashamed of yourself. Instead of helping your people in Kosovo and protecting them you have officially turned your back on them to the orders of your daddy (the U.S and EU). Didn't your parents ever teach you to grow up and be a man and to be your own person. Shameful! May God have mercy on your soul. You have betrayed the people that believed in you and voted you into office. There is a need for early elections and God willing Serbia will not receive EU candidate status next week and will never become a part of this mafia organization. For the brave Serbs in Kosovo keep believing and fighting the world is watching. DO NOT LEAVE THR BARRICADES. ZIVELA SRPSKA KOSOVO I METOHIJA.

Europe is looking to Germany to save it from financial catastrophe, Germany is not enthusiastic about taking on one more small, poor, aging (i.e., with a looming pension crisis) country having problems with its neighbors, and yesterday the German commander and a soldier were shot by these magnificent log-sitters. Did Tadic have a very serious conversation with EU representatives, or did he figure it all out for himself?

It is no wonder the people of KiM do not listen to this sell-out, who revises history to suit himself.

(DuShawn, 29 November 2011 14:28)

you are right!

Who cares what Tadic says what he does is importnat and that is a huge military base with Russians in just an hour from Kosova and another smaller for quick reaction even closer in just less than 30min well equipped and trained.

Tadic, just fu** off from your role, you are not wANTED

Tadic is becoming a supporter of independence of Kosovo. He will recognize it soon! That's the only explanation for behaving so much like a traitor in asking serbs to leave the barricades.
(Brian, 29 November 2011 19:07)

I know, you know and we all know that is true. Tadic knows the facts, and is speaking the truth.

History repeating. Germans and Austrians on Serbian lands.
Wally, 29 November 2011 16:58)
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Yes, and Tadic is the new Nedic. NATO are the new NAZIs. The US is the new Germany. China is the new US.

Fortunately, we all know which side ends up winning. Unfortunately, not many know why.

At last bold move by Serbian president. When push comes to shove Serbs understand that use of force is imminent, so the comedies aof the past are history. After all, you cant push the wall with naked head. Unless you recognise the reality on the ground you go nowhere, no EU, no regional meetings, NOWHERE.

History repeating. Germans and Austrians on Serbian lands.

Tadic have no control over soon to be Russian citizens in north Kosovo. Just one of his PR stunts.

"He also says that any escalation in Kosovo endangers Serbia's interest and stressed that mistakes from the 90s must not be repeated when representatives of Serbs rejected the Vance-Owen plan and plan Z-4."

Z4 was to create autonomy for Serbs in Croatia, which is now purged of Serbs. Serbs needed autonomy in Croatia to protect themselves from the historical persecution by the Croatians. The Vance-Owen plan was about Bosnia, but Serbs have autonomy in Bosnia. What was great about the Vance-Owen plan?

But this is Kosovo. Everyone who respects history and understands the players in demands for an independent Kosovo knows that Serbs in Kosovo are not like Serbs in Bosnia or Croatia. You don't have to be Serbian to see this. Why can't Tadic see this? That's very strange.

Should Serbs evacuate Kosovo and remove it like a diseased limb from Serbia? What will the borders be like then? Would any Serb in their right mind allow free traffic from Albanian run Kosovo into and through Serbia? Does anyone else really want this?

Leave the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia to the Serbs. Pristina is unfit to manage any of the borders of Kosovo. How are the borders being run between Kosovo and Albania? Is anybody watching this? Obviously not.

You can talk about investors but you are loosing your country.
What is more important?

People in the EU do not care a shit about Serbia, we only consider you to be a pain in the as.

If there was ever any doubt about Tadic's complicity in turning over Kosovo, he just ended it.

and that is a huge military base with Russians in just an hour from Kosova and another smaller for quick reaction even closer in just less than 30min well equipped and trained.
(ben, 29 November 2011 15:52)

I honestly wish, you would be right. The only good alternative to few Russian bases is more Russian bases, the bigger the better with more arms the better.

This scumbag better step down before the citizens take to the streets and throw his butt out.

Fine della commedia....

No coincidence that KFOR (in this case German and Austrian troops) are doing these actions now. Perhaps Germany and Austria do not want Serbia to get candidate status? It is all cooked up. Germany and Austria return to the scene of the crime.

And you, Mr. Tadic leave Serbia now!

"All pretty pointless, nothing new then. By the way I don't really believe that international troops are silly enough to start shooting live rounds at Kosovo Serbs"
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Have you been asleep lately? They already have. Haven't you seen bullets being removed from Serbs in a hospital?
If you haven't then maybe this will wake you up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsTtvt9Nrww

Time to wake up bgannon and realize that Serbs have been targeted.

Here are a few comments from the Serbian site on B92. Looks like the Serbs have given up on Tadic. He should be history after the next election.

Predsedniče SRAM VAS BILO ...
(MILE, 29. novembar 2011 13:39)
Preporučujem (+1309) Ne preporučujem (-216)

necemo gospodine predsednice... i sta sad?
(mi branimo nase za razliku od vas, 29. novembar 2011 13:35)
Preporučujem (+1753) Ne preporučujem (-346)

tadicu napusti mesto predsednika!
(nikolao, 29. novembar 2011 13:34)
Preporučujem (+1610) Ne preporučujem (-281)

Karl-believe me the feeling is mutual. Have you sold your euros yet? You're going down, and it'll be fun watching you drown.

The problem is that Tadic isn't offering the Kosovo Serbs an alternative.
Its easy to say 'leave the barricades', but what can Tadic offer in return, in terms of assurances?

If the answer is nothing this appears as purely a political statement, Tadic is not serious, Serbs at the barricades won't take it seriously and Tadic hopes that such a statement will keep the internationals happy.

All pretty pointless, nothing new then. By the way I don't really believe that international troops are silly enough to start shooting live rounds at Kosovo Serbs. This would cause a major crisis and would not look good in western capitals. At the same time it would radicalise Belgrade and possibly increase support for radical parties in Serbia.

Its a lose-lose scenario and if I was a western policy maker I would no way alow it to unfold.

Serbia's interest is not in the EU!

Very clever Mr. Tadic but this ploy will never work. Your IM and the defense minister both are implying that in the event the situation deteriorates they have plans on how to deal with the situation. They are both indirectly raising hopes of the local Serbs and indirectly encouraging more violence against the international troops.

You cant have it both ways. Either you sue for peace or you go for a war but not both as it will never work. Speak to your defense chief and IM and ask them what exactly they have in mind in the event KSF with NATO's blessing decides to secure Kosovo's borders while at same time mopping the area which is another word for ethnic cleansing. What then? Should Serbia go to war against NATO? We all know what the outcome will be?

Tadic is lining up his scapegoat for failure to get candidacy that was never to be - watch for the lies after the 9th Dec - it was the fault of anybody but me and my sellouts who surround me - what a waste of 4 years under this EU has no alternative trash!

Keep to your principles and hold the barricades after the 9th Dec the sellouts will be out and Serbia will always have options and alternatives;

At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side, and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Ireneus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth—no one

—St. Sava to Ireneus, 13th century

Serbia has and always will forge its own way and that Tadic fails to comprehend with his blindness to only the EU (read West). DS is falling apart internal squables are becoming obvious and Tadic is yesterdays man with these comments.

Tadic is becoming a supporter of independence of Kosovo. He will recognize it soon! That's the only explanation for behaving so much like a traitor in asking serbs to leave the barricades.

"Sadly, I have seen an ever increasing number of Serbs in Serbia who might not support Tadic but who also do not give a damn if we keep or lose Kosovo!"

You know why this is Mr Slobodan Maric? Because Kosovo is just an illusion. that is all. i've always tried hard to look at the Serbian argument objectively and yet i do not see any rational behind it. How is it beneficial to Serbia to keep Kosovo? 9 out of 10 people who live there are not prepared to be under Serbia's rule again. that means, they are not willing to pay taxes for them, not willing to be obedient citizens, in short they are prepared to take up arms to make sure it doesn't happen. So logically, it makes no sense. The other bit that some Serb citizens seem to have missed is that keeping Kosovo means keeping the Albanians who live there. You will not be able to get rid of them. with that, it means you have to give them equal rights in voting, in parliaments in everything else. so basically, it means an Albanian could run to be president of Serbia. I have not met a single Serb who will consider that idea. This is why the ordinary Serb IN Serbia does not care about Kosovo, because they know its lost and because Serbia is a lot healthier without it. On this forum we have Serb diaspora contributers who do not need to compete for 300 EURO's a month jobs, who do not need work permits to seek employment in the West, who do not face travel restrictions...so its easy for them to care for Kosovo. I tell you what, rip up your Australian citizenship and live in Serbia and see whether finding a decent living or Kosovo is more important

Nice diplomatic gesture. Gotta look good for the sake of smooth negotiations. Meanwhile his interior minister and top general are talking war. Who is Tadic fooling? Judging by comments, lots of people on both sides who cant see the big picture.

First go home then no hand outs anymore.

"every Serbian man, woman and child in Serbia and in the wider Serbian diaspora along with many of their friends for one reason or another are encouraging and praising and praying for these Kosovo Serbs to remain on the barricades. "

This is part of the problem isn't it? That every Serb in the diaspora is not prepared to actually go to Kosovo and see for themselves how it is, but rather is encouraging nationalism so that they can a certain way when visiting Serbia. They do not offer them anything in real terms, only incantation.

"Enough with the Democrats and it's time to elect Nationalists."

Yes...believe that is what Kosova needs right now, another madman to lead your country. How did it go the last time a Serb president played the nationalist card? Serbs were driven off Krajina, 100000 of them died in Bosnia and Kosova was lost. Not to mention the diplomatic isolation and the terrible state of Serbia's economy. Please by all means, do vote another Milosevic in, that's what I'll be hoping for.

Politics. He has no control over them so he wants to distance himself from them.

Sadly, I have seen an ever increasing number of Serbs in Serbia who might not support Tadic but who also do not give a damn if we keep or lose Kosovo! The majority of these believe that it would indeed be better if we just let the Pristina mob have Kosovo and we Serbs then move on to the land of honey and marshmallows! The bankrupt EU will then throw millions upon millions of Euros into the new Serbian promise land and every man woman and child will have a job waiting for them !!!

As sarcastic as this may sound, go to Knez Mihailova and ask the 20 year old kid with his new 60 Euro jeans why we should fight to save our Kosovo! At bestvhe might laugh! With this I want to say that whils Tadic certainly takes 90% of the blame, it is the Serb on the street that is the real apathetic sellout merchant!

Very clever of Mr. Tadic to now brand all of us who want to fight for our Kosovo as "90's" style extremists! How dare he? That makes his own defence minister one too!

My guess is that Tadic knows his time is up but he wants the US and EU to remember who to vote for in eight years time! He hopes to come back and tell us all that he "told us so" when Serbia is stll not in the EU and the financial situation is more desperate! The question is just how many of us are willing to endure this to make and win our point! I have a big mouth but I live in Australia - my fellow Serbs have to live through this in Kosovo and Serbia every day!

Yes...believe that is what Kosova needs right now, another madman to lead your country. How did it go the last time a Serb president played the nationalist card? Serbs were driven off Krajina, 100000 of them died in Bosnia and Kosova was lost. Not to mention the diplomatic isolation and the terrible state of Serbia's economy. Please by all means, do vote another Milosevic in, that's what I'll be hoping for.
(alban, 30 November 2011 11:21)

@Alban.

I agree with your comments, that it would be to Albanian's favor to have another mad man lead this poor country, but I disagree with your wording that "Serbia lost Kosova". It was never theirs and it will never be; is was, it is and it always be an Albanian land.

Kosova for Serbs was like a leased car; you lease it cause you have money and power, but eventually it goes back to the right owners, the bank, in this case back to Albaninas. We have banked this one and it's the end of the story.

So yes, do cry me a river; It's a done deal, to all you Serbs quit crying like little babies already and listen to your president

Theres a good boy, doping as you're told. Well done.

We should perhaps reward him with a dog treat.

"Boris Tadić has called on Serbs from northern Kosovo to withdraw from barricades."

What is this guy speaking about ? Doesn't he understand that Kosovo is independent from Serbia and Kosovo citizens don't take order from Belgrade. They are going to remain at the barricades whether Boris likes it or not; there is nothing that Boris can do about it.

yeah i guess the "Kos" in kosovo never existed either,wonder where that came from?ohh wait!

Little Boris is most concerned that if a solution is not found to this Kosovo crises his bonus from the EU will evaporate like his Serbian patriotism.
Boris is a fifth columnist who has received many medals from Germany, and he needs to show some results. Berlin and Vienna want to teach the Serbs a lesson so their storm troopers are out in force, but let me just warn those to be very careful. Little Boris cant think what to do so out comes the 1990s and make an idiotic attempt at frightening the Serbs ‘’’it’s back to the bad old days ….Milosevic. This so called president is not worthy of shining Milosevic’s shoes let alone lead a country as great as Serbia.

What have you done in supporting the Citizens in Kosovo?? nothing! Nothing Mr. Tadic. The Serbian people will remember you in the election as being a "WEAK" President. Enough with the Democrats and it's time to elect Nationalists.

unlike most of you i am too busy trying to make ends meet and provide for my family to give a damn about a place ive never been or would ever want to go to. its nice to see so many of you live prosperous lives leaving ample time to worry about someplace most of you havent been to either.

Contradictory statesment ?.

I quote -

"The barricades are not contributing to the defense of Serb national interests. On the contrary, they are endangering them."

The president of Serbia also warned KFOR soldiers not to remove the barricades, because that action endangers the lives of the citizens and could produce a risk in northern Kosovo.

Comment -

Which way does He want it ?.
This Serbian Precident are calling EU candidative status - "Serbian National Intressts" -
He is gambling with Serbian Civillian lifes by demanding that they leave the barricades althoug He Himseld know yhey are the last Fence and Stanse for the Serbian Civilians Protection.
That is the Policy of His

Further -

His appraisal is that this is a vicious circle from which there is no way out and that benefits only extremists. We cannot solve problems in this way, said Tadić.

Comment - He cant have it bouth ways - He has failed - He is a Looser.

Arn.Sweden.

'Tadic tells Serbs to leave barricades'

Serbs tell Tadic to leave presidency

I wonder where this title came from " Tadiç tolld serbs to leave the barricades" this may be a news to serbs but not to the world thanks to the rest of his statement. Everything in his statement Confirms that serbia is well behind and is not interested or resolving the issues. New ICO reports show none of the serbs in North bothered to see Ahtisari plan but they refus it as it is before even being able to tell anything what is on Ahtisari plan. Read it before you refuse something because it was shame to see on report that people refused it and when asked what was you dont agree they were unable to say anything

"Boris Tadić has called on Serbs from northern Kosovo to withdraw from barricades"

WOW!!!!!! KOSOVO IS GONE AMPUTATION AND CAPITULATION COMPLETED

Vasa

Boris Tadic has called on Serbs from northern Kosovo to withdraw from the barricades.
Obviously Tadic is thinking of the immediate but not long term welfare of these northern Kosovo Serbs.
Interestingly, however, every Serbian man, woman and child in Serbia and in the wider Serbian diaspora along with many of their friends for one reason or another are encouraging and praising and praying for these Kosovo Serbs to remain on the barricades. We pray for their safety and for their honour and for their human and sovereign rights. We are also collecting money for their survival. May God Bless everyone of these brave and honourable Serbian souls and keep them safe.

The fact is that Europe failed miserably in allowing something like Kosovo (not per se, just in the form it is now) to be created on it's own territory... As Paul mentioned, completely unable to manage it's own borders, and with all the issues Europe is facing economically, undeveloped parts of Europe where everything smells like blood (again) are on footnotes of priority... They will realize again when it spills over, like it is happening with PIGS economies and numerous other stuff... Everything that is happening in Europe right now is so much in that quote from Boris Pasternak: "As for the men in power, they are so anxious to establish the myth of infallibility that they do their utmost to ignore truth."...

Leave the borders between Kosovo and the rest of Serbia to the Serbs. Pristina is unfit to manage any of the borders of Kosovo. How are the borders being run between Kosovo and Albania? Is anybody watching this? Obviously not.
(Paul, 29 November 2011 22:41)

Oh yes we are; HD cameras running at 1080p resolution, not even a bee can pass through without proper documentation.

MY,MY sounds like the USA/NATO/EU is getting a little tired of their TADIC.He is getting in hot water with his PAYMASTERS.

"I am referring to all those who think patriotism is expressed through violence, as was the case in the 1990s," Tadić said, asked by reporters about how the incidents in Jagnjenica will affect Serbia's candidacy bid.

Oh my god even your own President is telling you guys to get your act together. What more proof do you want that you should stop being hotheaded and move on, you messed up with Kosovo, let it go.