Dodik likes idea of Croat entity

Dodik stressed that during a recent meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, she heard that his was not a policy of secession - "as they lie in Sarajevo" - but that he did believe it was best for Bosnia-Herzegovina to disintegrate peacefully.
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Finally a politician telling this Clinton character what to do.

It's about time to make the inevitable happen: Muslims will be divided in two enclaves by a Cro entity, then 2-1 will vote to disolve BiH and then each Muslim enclave will join with Serbia or Croatia along with the ethnic entities. I can't see HOW the Cro entity can be drawn to preserve the Muslim entitiy's unity because of the demographics of the Mus-Cro Fed. Please correct me if I'm wrong About the demographics

DimTuc, the injustice of Dayton based on RS' 49% allocation? Lest you forget, the Serbs of Bosnia lived in rural areas for the most part with more expansive properties than did the Muslims. The Croats lived similarly, but their pop. size was and is about half of the Serb's. The Muslims got the cities, the Serbs got the larger expanses of land plus Banja Luka and smaller towns. Complain, complain. You can't have what you never had, even if it was taken from Christian Serbs and Croats by Turks and converts to Islam known as Bosniaks. The percentage will stay, and there would be trouble if that percentage was challenged.

@DimTuc
before the war Serbs held 66% of BiH teritory, you can easily verify that information in land books...

Yes, given that he likes the idea, he should offer a chunk of "RS" to the Croat nationalists for them to form a state. That would help reduce the injustice of Dayton whereby 30% of the pop'n got 50% of the land. The Croast living within the Federation could then decide whether to go on living in peace with the Bosniaks and some non-nationalist Serbs or to go to their little apartheid statelet.

Oh, if they thought the Federation's size was going to reduce while the gangster state "RS" retained its loot, wow would they have another thing coming.

"That would help reduce the injustice of Dayton whereby 30% of the pop'n got 50% of the land."
(DimTuc, 24 October 2010 20:24)

Actually the Croats/Bosniaks got a very good deal considering Serbs owned 66% of the land. It was a great Serbian sacrifice and act of goodwill to go down to 49%. Don't be unreasonable or greedy.

Oh, if they thought the Federation's size was going to reduce while the gangster state "RS" retained its loot, wow would they have another thing coming.
(DimTuc)
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What makes you refer to RS as a gangster state? Everything Dodik has stated in the past and present is according to the law the US and Former Yugoslavia drew up together.

It took some time, but it looks like things will go back to the way they were, broders will be re-drawn, thanks to these documentations of the Dayton, lol.

Haha those same Croats are now RS's biggest ally =D
(Marcus, 25 October 2010 07:41)

Last I looked, Rep. Srpska is an entity & Herzegovna isn't. Therefore, we're your biggest ally & yet again, Bosnia's fate rests in the hands of Serbs. Nothing new here :)

'Quite impressive. Seems like serbs would speak on some one else's behalf and even speak out for someone else. Shouldn't we first hear what croats have to say then jump into proposals...or is it because what croats have already decided in dayton does not fit serbian agenda?'

Nobody gets to hear what the Croats think because their own President is elected by the Muslims. And Zagreb should be ashamed of itself that its saying nothing about this discrimination. This is what Dodik was talking about.

Dodik also said that Croats in Bosnia were "devastated" by various intrigues brought on my some in the international community, The only devastation is not allowing the Croatians to finish off the criminally inspired "Srpska" in 1995 which now the international community are regretting. Dodo the champion and supporter of the Croatians lol. When are the over 200,000 Croatians brutally ethnically cleansed from the Srpska by the Serbs talk about that Dodo lol.

Just for the record, all the comments below claiming that serbs "owned" 66% of Bosnia because they were rural and that this can be seen in land registers is nothing but false propaganda. The land registers say nothing of the sort. Check, don't take the word of karadzic. Sorry, it is all made up. Actualy half the land of Bosnia was publicaly owned, not privately owned anyway, so the point is senseless. The half that was privately owned belonged 35% to Serbs, just slightly more than their % of the pop'n.

Hahah "nick", Serbs being "grateful" in Bosnia. No, Serbs tried to take it all for Greater Serbia, which unfortunately is not just a product of the evil western media. And remember it was NATO that told Croats to stop before Banja Luka, and had this order not have been given, there would not be a Serb entity west of Sarajevo. Haha those same Croats are now RS's biggest ally =D

(Lenard, 25 October 2010 07:16)
(Marcus, 25 October 2010 07:41)
This is another very good example BS on a scale that beggars belief. “The only devastation is not allowing the Croatians to finish off the criminally inspired "Srpska" in 1995”. Who stopped you????? NATO, the boogy man, the tooth fairy or pixies??? You should be a standup comedian and you’ll have them rolling in the aisles with laughter – Croatia the mighty could have conquered RS. Your Croats stabbed the Bosniaks in the back and they could not even do that job properly – the west had to intervene otherwise the Bosniaks would have liquidated all of Croats in Bosnia. The only military action was Operation Storm and that was an embarrassment that even US refuse to admit providing trainers to train the Croat army.
Dodik is playing you guys off each other and doing a mighty good job of it.
Unlike the Croats we don’t have eyes bigger than our stomachs and are very happy with our parts of Bosnia – the best parts.
On the brighter side, I hear that Stipe Mesic has another 3 marathons to run before becoming fit and invading RS Posavina corridor with Croatia’s 600 professional solders.

Quite impressive. Seems like serbs would speak on some one else's behalf and even speak out for someone else. Shouldn't we first hear what croats have to say then jump into proposals...or is it because what croats have already decided in dayton does not fit serbian agenda? Yet, it is quite logical that all we hear from serbs is just talks, if serbs had the power, they would act....but it is quite impossible now that croatia has a modern army and could take over brcko at any time and split RS in two halfs...while at south, Republic of Albania (not konsidering Kosovo), unlike 1999 when our army had been disbanded since the 1997 civil war...now has a high standart NATO army, small but extremely efficient. It is easy to draw borders on the tables...experience showed that no balkan borders has ever been altered without a fight...A small hint for Dodik: Beograd does not control the glorious Jugoslavian force any more so better speak careful about territories,croats, muslims, ethnicies etc...not that i mind dodik, after all i m albanian and i could care less about bosnia, but it seems to me that bosnia is like a time machine for Kosovo, what happens in Bosnia would inevitably happen in Kosovo after 5 years...also, lately germans mechanised the Kosovo Defence Force with mercedeskampfwagen products just like the old times ... by default albanians drive only german vehicles anyway.

Finally a politician telling this Clinton character what to do.
(trudsaam, 24 October 2010 19:54)

Yea because we remember very well last time when a Serb told a Clinton what to do.

Sam, if croats chose to be led by muslims, then that is their choise...i m not an expert of bosnia, but as far as i know, kroats and muslims ther get on quite well ... as i already stated before, i don't care about bosnia, the more slavs end up in conflict with each other the better for Albania...bosnians, croats, serbs...same thing. Anyway, i doubt croats and serbs would ever end up allies...one more thing. The only reason i might be affectionated to bosnians is because i believe they are slavilised Albanians. 2000 years ago dynaric or illyric mountains where illyrians uprised were the greatst threat Rome ever faced until 5th century. Also, Bosnia is important for Albanian mithologies, Kotorret e Reja were the lands that got invaded by slavs and that kreshtniks for fought ever since...yet those are just myths that our lahutars sing.

Yes, given that he likes the idea, he should offer a chunk of "RS" to the Croat nationalists for them to form a state. That would help reduce the injustice of Dayton whereby 30% of the pop'n got 50% of the land. The Croast living within the Federation could then decide whether to go on living in peace with the Bosniaks and some non-nationalist Serbs or to go to their little apartheid statelet.

Oh, if they thought the Federation's size was going to reduce while the gangster state "RS" retained its loot, wow would they have another thing coming.

Dodik stressed that during a recent meeting with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, she heard that his was not a policy of secession - "as they lie in Sarajevo" - but that he did believe it was best for Bosnia-Herzegovina to disintegrate peacefully.
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Finally a politician telling this Clinton character what to do.

It's about time to make the inevitable happen: Muslims will be divided in two enclaves by a Cro entity, then 2-1 will vote to disolve BiH and then each Muslim enclave will join with Serbia or Croatia along with the ethnic entities. I can't see HOW the Cro entity can be drawn to preserve the Muslim entitiy's unity because of the demographics of the Mus-Cro Fed. Please correct me if I'm wrong About the demographics

@DimTuc
before the war Serbs held 66% of BiH teritory, you can easily verify that information in land books...

"That would help reduce the injustice of Dayton whereby 30% of the pop'n got 50% of the land."
(DimTuc, 24 October 2010 20:24)

Actually the Croats/Bosniaks got a very good deal considering Serbs owned 66% of the land. It was a great Serbian sacrifice and act of goodwill to go down to 49%. Don't be unreasonable or greedy.

Quite impressive. Seems like serbs would speak on some one else's behalf and even speak out for someone else. Shouldn't we first hear what croats have to say then jump into proposals...or is it because what croats have already decided in dayton does not fit serbian agenda? Yet, it is quite logical that all we hear from serbs is just talks, if serbs had the power, they would act....but it is quite impossible now that croatia has a modern army and could take over brcko at any time and split RS in two halfs...while at south, Republic of Albania (not konsidering Kosovo), unlike 1999 when our army had been disbanded since the 1997 civil war...now has a high standart NATO army, small but extremely efficient. It is easy to draw borders on the tables...experience showed that no balkan borders has ever been altered without a fight...A small hint for Dodik: Beograd does not control the glorious Jugoslavian force any more so better speak careful about territories,croats, muslims, ethnicies etc...not that i mind dodik, after all i m albanian and i could care less about bosnia, but it seems to me that bosnia is like a time machine for Kosovo, what happens in Bosnia would inevitably happen in Kosovo after 5 years...also, lately germans mechanised the Kosovo Defence Force with mercedeskampfwagen products just like the old times ... by default albanians drive only german vehicles anyway.

Dodik also said that Croats in Bosnia were "devastated" by various intrigues brought on my some in the international community, The only devastation is not allowing the Croatians to finish off the criminally inspired "Srpska" in 1995 which now the international community are regretting. Dodo the champion and supporter of the Croatians lol. When are the over 200,000 Croatians brutally ethnically cleansed from the Srpska by the Serbs talk about that Dodo lol.

Oh, if they thought the Federation's size was going to reduce while the gangster state "RS" retained its loot, wow would they have another thing coming.
(DimTuc)
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What makes you refer to RS as a gangster state? Everything Dodik has stated in the past and present is according to the law the US and Former Yugoslavia drew up together.

It took some time, but it looks like things will go back to the way they were, broders will be re-drawn, thanks to these documentations of the Dayton, lol.

DimTuc, the injustice of Dayton based on RS' 49% allocation? Lest you forget, the Serbs of Bosnia lived in rural areas for the most part with more expansive properties than did the Muslims. The Croats lived similarly, but their pop. size was and is about half of the Serb's. The Muslims got the cities, the Serbs got the larger expanses of land plus Banja Luka and smaller towns. Complain, complain. You can't have what you never had, even if it was taken from Christian Serbs and Croats by Turks and converts to Islam known as Bosniaks. The percentage will stay, and there would be trouble if that percentage was challenged.

Hahah "nick", Serbs being "grateful" in Bosnia. No, Serbs tried to take it all for Greater Serbia, which unfortunately is not just a product of the evil western media. And remember it was NATO that told Croats to stop before Banja Luka, and had this order not have been given, there would not be a Serb entity west of Sarajevo. Haha those same Croats are now RS's biggest ally =D

Just for the record, all the comments below claiming that serbs "owned" 66% of Bosnia because they were rural and that this can be seen in land registers is nothing but false propaganda. The land registers say nothing of the sort. Check, don't take the word of karadzic. Sorry, it is all made up. Actualy half the land of Bosnia was publicaly owned, not privately owned anyway, so the point is senseless. The half that was privately owned belonged 35% to Serbs, just slightly more than their % of the pop'n.

Finally a politician telling this Clinton character what to do.
(trudsaam, 24 October 2010 19:54)

Yea because we remember very well last time when a Serb told a Clinton what to do.

'Quite impressive. Seems like serbs would speak on some one else's behalf and even speak out for someone else. Shouldn't we first hear what croats have to say then jump into proposals...or is it because what croats have already decided in dayton does not fit serbian agenda?'

Nobody gets to hear what the Croats think because their own President is elected by the Muslims. And Zagreb should be ashamed of itself that its saying nothing about this discrimination. This is what Dodik was talking about.

Sam, if croats chose to be led by muslims, then that is their choise...i m not an expert of bosnia, but as far as i know, kroats and muslims ther get on quite well ... as i already stated before, i don't care about bosnia, the more slavs end up in conflict with each other the better for Albania...bosnians, croats, serbs...same thing. Anyway, i doubt croats and serbs would ever end up allies...one more thing. The only reason i might be affectionated to bosnians is because i believe they are slavilised Albanians. 2000 years ago dynaric or illyric mountains where illyrians uprised were the greatst threat Rome ever faced until 5th century. Also, Bosnia is important for Albanian mithologies, Kotorret e Reja were the lands that got invaded by slavs and that kreshtniks for fought ever since...yet those are just myths that our lahutars sing.

Haha those same Croats are now RS's biggest ally =D
(Marcus, 25 October 2010 07:41)

Last I looked, Rep. Srpska is an entity & Herzegovna isn't. Therefore, we're your biggest ally & yet again, Bosnia's fate rests in the hands of Serbs. Nothing new here :)

(Lenard, 25 October 2010 07:16)
(Marcus, 25 October 2010 07:41)
This is another very good example BS on a scale that beggars belief. “The only devastation is not allowing the Croatians to finish off the criminally inspired "Srpska" in 1995”. Who stopped you????? NATO, the boogy man, the tooth fairy or pixies??? You should be a standup comedian and you’ll have them rolling in the aisles with laughter – Croatia the mighty could have conquered RS. Your Croats stabbed the Bosniaks in the back and they could not even do that job properly – the west had to intervene otherwise the Bosniaks would have liquidated all of Croats in Bosnia. The only military action was Operation Storm and that was an embarrassment that even US refuse to admit providing trainers to train the Croat army.
Dodik is playing you guys off each other and doing a mighty good job of it.
Unlike the Croats we don’t have eyes bigger than our stomachs and are very happy with our parts of Bosnia – the best parts.
On the brighter side, I hear that Stipe Mesic has another 3 marathons to run before becoming fit and invading RS Posavina corridor with Croatia’s 600 professional solders.