Unclear if Serbs were among victims in Moscow

.......and Muslims wonder why the non-Muslim world discriminates against them. Until the day comes when Muslim leaders openly condemn suicide bombers, resentment and hatred will be expressed towards them by the Western world. BTW, do these suicide bombers really think they are going to be martyrs - or have they been so severely brainwashed they cannot see reality?

With tragedy of Beslam still frsh in minds,this one just reminds us that sick minds should be contained and now we all understand why Swiss and Polacks refuse to build muslim shrines in EU.

Until Muslims renounce these horrific actions (suicide bombing), the non-Muslim world will look at them with discrimination. Don't they realize that they are doing more harm than good, by killing innocent people? Nothing will be solved through terror. Is it a wonder that the Western world looks at Muslims through untrusting eyes?

trudsaam,

We have two articles today on the Moscow terror attacks, one in our World section, the other here, where we report domestic news.

In no way, shape or form are we minimizing the tragedy by focusing here on the possibility that Serbian citizens might have been hurt.

Many, as was noted, live in Moscow and elsewhere in Russia.

Regards,


B92

It is obvious, that the two greatest threats to our Christian society is Islam and Catholic priests. Islam which is waging a war of terrorism and extremism must be eradicated, either with or without the help of "peaceful" muslims. Why is it that 99% of all conflicts has the element of Islam, from Manila to Nigeria and all that in between?

Why do I also place the Catholic clergy in this category. Simply put, I do not know of any other club, group, membership, or religion which has waged a war of rape against children in such a manner as the Catholic Church. Not only that, but the attempted coverups are an affront to all that is descent in any society. Tell me of any other organization that could have raped children across the world by it's members and remained viable and open to the general public. Can you imagine if the Boy Scouts did such a crime and in such size and scope? They'd be shut down in a heartbeat! Yet the church protects these rapists, from USA , Ireland, Germany, and France, for not even the Pope can claim innocence and ignorance upon his arrival to the Gates of St. Peter.

trudaam: "What difference does this make? As a Serb I am offended by this headline. B92, what are you implying?"

I get your point, but it's exactly the same when eg. the BBC reports as a priority whether there were any British people killed in some attack or disaster around the world.

"Unclear if Serbs were among victims in Moscow"

-- No, but people were. When something like this happens, it doesn't matter who are the innocent victims. They're all people.

RIP to all the victims of this TERRORIST act. Kudos to Ataman's post elsewhere.

"Unclear if Serbs were among victims in Moscow"
-
What difference does this make? As a Serb I am offended by this headline. B92, what are you implying?

With tragedy of Beslam still frsh in minds,this one just reminds us that sick minds should be contained and now we all understand why Swiss and Polacks refuse to build muslim shrines in EU.
(lids, 29 March 2010 15:31)

First of all; RIP to the victims and may the terrorists rot in hell.
Second,
I sugest to lids to ask your govermant in Belgrade why they have such close relation with extremist arab/islamic countries!

I also agrre with the other psoter that the headline is in poor taste. How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.

lids wrote: "we all understand why Swiss and Polacks refuse to build muslim shrines in EU"
Recently daily Albanian in Kosova "Gazeta Express" wrote that jeremic is praying in those moslems shrines in Arabian countries. Also, ask Jeremic and Tadic why they are puting strong connections with muslim countries.

The western powers must be proud of their drug addicted "freedom fighters" -from the Beslan to the theater and now this. Wonder how their caucasian clients, apart from opiates, get their women to do such satanic bestialities?

Anything is good enough in the drang nach osten quest to disintegrate russia it seems..

How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.
(Kosova-USA, 29 March 2010 17:00)

Clearly you have never been to Moscow or else you would know what a diverse city it is. One and a half times the size of NYC, there are numerous expat communities from the Caucuses, the various "stans," and yes, a good size Serbian population.

Maybe next time try sticking to commenting on something you know about?

Moscow metro delivers about 6 000 000 passengers every day. Today 38 died and it makes 0,0006% of the passengers. But chances to find Serbs among them are proportionally less. So don’t you worry. Inside the metro there was no panic and all acted as civilians of a fighting state.

We are a fighting state and we know who pay and rule the terrorists through some Muslim states and some organizations in the West. Those were reactions for several successful operations in the Caucasus when the most searched leaders of the terrorists recently went to Hell.

B92-

Well it is your perogitive to put whatever headline you like. Im just indicating that they are much better options to put ... aside from what is.... good day :) and keep up the good work in jounalism

I also agrre with the other psoter that the headline is in poor taste. How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.
(Kosova-USA, 29 March 2010 17:00)

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What difference does this make? As a Serb I am offended by this headline. B92, what are you implying?
(trudsaam, 29 March 2010 16:23)

Nothing unusual, this is a standard practice in Hungary, too. If there is a disaster somewhere else usually the first thing the Hungarian media does is to report, was any Hungarian affected or not.

This is maybe not the winner of taste championship but fully understandable because MFA is immediately bombarded by the worried relatives.

BTW: subway of Moscow is not any different than of NYC as far as diversity and the daily Belgrade-Moscow train + two daily airplanes do carry some passengers.

BTW, do these suicide bombers really think they are going to be martyrs - or have they been so severely brainwashed they cannot see reality?
(winston)
-
Most likely mind-contolled. The whole martyr business doesn't work anymore, only a very little percentage beleive in that. And who knows if they are actually muslim, we do not know who even is responsible.

I also agrre with the other psoter that the headline is in poor taste. How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.
(Kosova-USA)
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You totally missed my point again. I was referring to the fact that a tragedy is a tragedy no matter what ethnicities are involved, people are people. Innocence is innocence.

NOW... they are many Serbs who live in Moscow, and I can understand the concern for the relatives in Serbia for them, but this is in the article anyway.

Why make the headline so blunt by implying there was no Serb victims, ( so don't worry). B92... get on that

My all victims of this horrible tragedy rest in peace!

If there is any country who can deal with islamic terror it is Russia. After this I hope and expect they will do just that.

Kosova USA wrote:

"Second,
I sugest to lids to ask your govermant in Belgrade why they have such close relation with extremist arab/islamic countries!"
=======================

Those governments are not sending out sucide bombers. Osama and his kind are and it's your lot,the Albanians who are following in the footstesps like attacking Fort Dix etc.

So stop being so righteous here. No Serbs has gone to blow up anything in America, while your lot has.

It's the ties with Osama think a likes we should worry about, not the governemtns of some countries.

I get your point, but it's exactly the same when eg. the BBC reports as a priority whether there were any British people killed in some attack or disaster around the world.
(kate)
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Agreed, yet it still doesnt make it right. I want to make ONE thing clear to everyone, IN NO WAY am I implying that B92, is minimizing this disaster at all by claiming the Serbs have not been killed. The article itself is well done, my ONLY comment was in regard to the actual "headline".. That is all

The headline is in no way different to a headline you would get in Australia, at least.
Every time there is a disaster somewhere in the world we always get the same headline. Either so many Australian were killed or injured or none were.
B92 has done nothing different to what any other reporting news organisation would do.

It certainly does not minimize the tragedy for the country and families concerned.

May the dead rest in peace.

As much as i don't agree with some of their actions i do admire them for fighting for their own against an enemy that is far more advanced.
(AdamSRB, 30 March 2010 00:17)

It's a sad day, Adam (or whatever your name is, 'SRB' part is what I am not sure about). And sadly this day I did click quite a few times on the red "-". The only good(?) news is - not a single "victim" of me is a known Albanian poster.

But you got one.

Again - "faleminderit" to Albanians who displayed a better integrity than some others.

Please take a little time and make yourself familiar with the ideology of the perpetrators; very important is to read BOTH English and Russian. Russian part of their web site reveals who they are. Please read the other thread, too. I do not want to spam the same thing in many places.

The web site in question:

http://www.kavkazcenter.com

The other thread:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66112

In a nutshell: the people in question are completely crazy without ANY meaningful agenda. What could it be? Bomb all gays in America? Drink the blood of Jews? Kill Obama? Because that's what they are talking about.

And no mistake, the ones behind that insanity are for real, they are THE bandits - enjoy their pictures on the top of the web site. Everyone of these would get a 3 meter rope from me and a free-fall experience. I am a cheap-skater, want to save money on bullets, rope can be re-used.

Jeremic can pray if he wants in any mosque. He is half muslim from his mother side. His uncle was famous Bosnian comunist leader Hamdija Pozderac.

It is bit strange how albanians try to distance themselves from Muslims. They are only muslims when it suits there politic goals.

It's interesting how many Muslim bashers there is out there but nooone seems to care what they are going through and what has happened to them.
Westerners constantly attacking/killing their families, how does some peasant fight them?
The only way possible and unfortunately it is through guerilla fighting which does include suicide bombing.
Put yourself in their positions for a second.
Imagine there was an occupied force in your country that is above law and does not face any consequences constantly killing your own people.
They think an apology is sufficient.
This is what you get for meddling into someone elses business.
Religion has got nothing to do with it, it's just that's the easiest way to brainwash humans.
As much as i don't agree with some of their actions i do admire them for fighting for their own against an enemy that is far more advanced.

Sincerest condolences to the families of the victims of this cowardly act.

May the victims rest in peace.

The army army, special services and pro-Moscow Chechens need to immediately begin a campaign against muslim extremists in the North Caucasus. They need to employ the same methods of manipulation and combat that brought terrorists like Mashkhadov and Basayev down.

The flock is easily dispersed if you take out the shepherd.

AdamSRB

Nobody is defending Moscow's actions against Chechen civilians, but I am pretty certain that not a single one of the 38 victims were responsible for that.

michael

How can you put Catholic clergy in the same category as muslim terrorists who kill innocent civilians with bombs? I cannot believe how many people considered your post a good one.

Catholics are christian, and yes, there are isolated instances of child abuse among a tiny proportion of its clergy, which are unacceptable, vbut equally unacceptable is putting the whole of Catholic clergy into the same category as muslim terrorist savages.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Or is this a cheap shot at Catholic Croatia?

You should be ashamed of yourself. Or is this a cheap shot at Catholic Croatia?
(Peter Sudyka, 31 March 2010 12:38)

No, this is in regard what happened in NDH in second world war. The catholic church never appologised to Serbian victims of Croation genocide commited in world war two. Vatican helped many Ustaha escape justice after world war two.

lids wrote: "we all understand why Swiss and Polacks refuse to build muslim shrines in EU"
Recently daily Albanian in Kosova "Gazeta Express" wrote that jeremic is praying in those moslems shrines in Arabian countries. Also, ask Jeremic and Tadic why they are puting strong connections with muslim countries.

With tragedy of Beslam still frsh in minds,this one just reminds us that sick minds should be contained and now we all understand why Swiss and Polacks refuse to build muslim shrines in EU.
(lids, 29 March 2010 15:31)

First of all; RIP to the victims and may the terrorists rot in hell.
Second,
I sugest to lids to ask your govermant in Belgrade why they have such close relation with extremist arab/islamic countries!

I also agrre with the other psoter that the headline is in poor taste. How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.

With tragedy of Beslam still frsh in minds,this one just reminds us that sick minds should be contained and now we all understand why Swiss and Polacks refuse to build muslim shrines in EU.

It's interesting how many Muslim bashers there is out there but nooone seems to care what they are going through and what has happened to them.
Westerners constantly attacking/killing their families, how does some peasant fight them?
The only way possible and unfortunately it is through guerilla fighting which does include suicide bombing.
Put yourself in their positions for a second.
Imagine there was an occupied force in your country that is above law and does not face any consequences constantly killing your own people.
They think an apology is sufficient.
This is what you get for meddling into someone elses business.
Religion has got nothing to do with it, it's just that's the easiest way to brainwash humans.
As much as i don't agree with some of their actions i do admire them for fighting for their own against an enemy that is far more advanced.

"Unclear if Serbs were among victims in Moscow"
-
What difference does this make? As a Serb I am offended by this headline. B92, what are you implying?

trudaam: "What difference does this make? As a Serb I am offended by this headline. B92, what are you implying?"

I get your point, but it's exactly the same when eg. the BBC reports as a priority whether there were any British people killed in some attack or disaster around the world.

It is obvious, that the two greatest threats to our Christian society is Islam and Catholic priests. Islam which is waging a war of terrorism and extremism must be eradicated, either with or without the help of "peaceful" muslims. Why is it that 99% of all conflicts has the element of Islam, from Manila to Nigeria and all that in between?

Why do I also place the Catholic clergy in this category. Simply put, I do not know of any other club, group, membership, or religion which has waged a war of rape against children in such a manner as the Catholic Church. Not only that, but the attempted coverups are an affront to all that is descent in any society. Tell me of any other organization that could have raped children across the world by it's members and remained viable and open to the general public. Can you imagine if the Boy Scouts did such a crime and in such size and scope? They'd be shut down in a heartbeat! Yet the church protects these rapists, from USA , Ireland, Germany, and France, for not even the Pope can claim innocence and ignorance upon his arrival to the Gates of St. Peter.

I also agrre with the other psoter that the headline is in poor taste. How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.
(Kosova-USA)
-
You totally missed my point again. I was referring to the fact that a tragedy is a tragedy no matter what ethnicities are involved, people are people. Innocence is innocence.

NOW... they are many Serbs who live in Moscow, and I can understand the concern for the relatives in Serbia for them, but this is in the article anyway.

Why make the headline so blunt by implying there was no Serb victims, ( so don't worry). B92... get on that

.......and Muslims wonder why the non-Muslim world discriminates against them. Until the day comes when Muslim leaders openly condemn suicide bombers, resentment and hatred will be expressed towards them by the Western world. BTW, do these suicide bombers really think they are going to be martyrs - or have they been so severely brainwashed they cannot see reality?

The western powers must be proud of their drug addicted "freedom fighters" -from the Beslan to the theater and now this. Wonder how their caucasian clients, apart from opiates, get their women to do such satanic bestialities?

Anything is good enough in the drang nach osten quest to disintegrate russia it seems..

trudsaam,

We have two articles today on the Moscow terror attacks, one in our World section, the other here, where we report domestic news.

In no way, shape or form are we minimizing the tragedy by focusing here on the possibility that Serbian citizens might have been hurt.

Many, as was noted, live in Moscow and elsewhere in Russia.

Regards,


B92

My all victims of this horrible tragedy rest in peace!

If there is any country who can deal with islamic terror it is Russia. After this I hope and expect they will do just that.

Moscow metro delivers about 6 000 000 passengers every day. Today 38 died and it makes 0,0006% of the passengers. But chances to find Serbs among them are proportionally less. So don’t you worry. Inside the metro there was no panic and all acted as civilians of a fighting state.

We are a fighting state and we know who pay and rule the terrorists through some Muslim states and some organizations in the West. Those were reactions for several successful operations in the Caucasus when the most searched leaders of the terrorists recently went to Hell.

I get your point, but it's exactly the same when eg. the BBC reports as a priority whether there were any British people killed in some attack or disaster around the world.
(kate)
-
Agreed, yet it still doesnt make it right. I want to make ONE thing clear to everyone, IN NO WAY am I implying that B92, is minimizing this disaster at all by claiming the Serbs have not been killed. The article itself is well done, my ONLY comment was in regard to the actual "headline".. That is all

How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.
(Kosova-USA, 29 March 2010 17:00)

Clearly you have never been to Moscow or else you would know what a diverse city it is. One and a half times the size of NYC, there are numerous expat communities from the Caucuses, the various "stans," and yes, a good size Serbian population.

Maybe next time try sticking to commenting on something you know about?

Until Muslims renounce these horrific actions (suicide bombing), the non-Muslim world will look at them with discrimination. Don't they realize that they are doing more harm than good, by killing innocent people? Nothing will be solved through terror. Is it a wonder that the Western world looks at Muslims through untrusting eyes?

"Unclear if Serbs were among victims in Moscow"

-- No, but people were. When something like this happens, it doesn't matter who are the innocent victims. They're all people.

RIP to all the victims of this TERRORIST act. Kudos to Ataman's post elsewhere.

BTW, do these suicide bombers really think they are going to be martyrs - or have they been so severely brainwashed they cannot see reality?
(winston)
-
Most likely mind-contolled. The whole martyr business doesn't work anymore, only a very little percentage beleive in that. And who knows if they are actually muslim, we do not know who even is responsible.

B92-

Well it is your perogitive to put whatever headline you like. Im just indicating that they are much better options to put ... aside from what is.... good day :) and keep up the good work in jounalism

I also agrre with the other psoter that the headline is in poor taste. How many Serbs will you find in Moscow subway? If its NY subway, is totally different thing, since you will find people from all walks of life.
(Kosova-USA, 29 March 2010 17:00)

--------

What difference does this make? As a Serb I am offended by this headline. B92, what are you implying?
(trudsaam, 29 March 2010 16:23)

Nothing unusual, this is a standard practice in Hungary, too. If there is a disaster somewhere else usually the first thing the Hungarian media does is to report, was any Hungarian affected or not.

This is maybe not the winner of taste championship but fully understandable because MFA is immediately bombarded by the worried relatives.

BTW: subway of Moscow is not any different than of NYC as far as diversity and the daily Belgrade-Moscow train + two daily airplanes do carry some passengers.

The headline is in no way different to a headline you would get in Australia, at least.
Every time there is a disaster somewhere in the world we always get the same headline. Either so many Australian were killed or injured or none were.
B92 has done nothing different to what any other reporting news organisation would do.

It certainly does not minimize the tragedy for the country and families concerned.

May the dead rest in peace.

Kosova USA wrote:

"Second,
I sugest to lids to ask your govermant in Belgrade why they have such close relation with extremist arab/islamic countries!"
=======================

Those governments are not sending out sucide bombers. Osama and his kind are and it's your lot,the Albanians who are following in the footstesps like attacking Fort Dix etc.

So stop being so righteous here. No Serbs has gone to blow up anything in America, while your lot has.

It's the ties with Osama think a likes we should worry about, not the governemtns of some countries.

As much as i don't agree with some of their actions i do admire them for fighting for their own against an enemy that is far more advanced.
(AdamSRB, 30 March 2010 00:17)

It's a sad day, Adam (or whatever your name is, 'SRB' part is what I am not sure about). And sadly this day I did click quite a few times on the red "-". The only good(?) news is - not a single "victim" of me is a known Albanian poster.

But you got one.

Again - "faleminderit" to Albanians who displayed a better integrity than some others.

Please take a little time and make yourself familiar with the ideology of the perpetrators; very important is to read BOTH English and Russian. Russian part of their web site reveals who they are. Please read the other thread, too. I do not want to spam the same thing in many places.

The web site in question:

http://www.kavkazcenter.com

The other thread:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=66112

In a nutshell: the people in question are completely crazy without ANY meaningful agenda. What could it be? Bomb all gays in America? Drink the blood of Jews? Kill Obama? Because that's what they are talking about.

And no mistake, the ones behind that insanity are for real, they are THE bandits - enjoy their pictures on the top of the web site. Everyone of these would get a 3 meter rope from me and a free-fall experience. I am a cheap-skater, want to save money on bullets, rope can be re-used.

Sincerest condolences to the families of the victims of this cowardly act.

May the victims rest in peace.

The army army, special services and pro-Moscow Chechens need to immediately begin a campaign against muslim extremists in the North Caucasus. They need to employ the same methods of manipulation and combat that brought terrorists like Mashkhadov and Basayev down.

The flock is easily dispersed if you take out the shepherd.

AdamSRB

Nobody is defending Moscow's actions against Chechen civilians, but I am pretty certain that not a single one of the 38 victims were responsible for that.

michael

How can you put Catholic clergy in the same category as muslim terrorists who kill innocent civilians with bombs? I cannot believe how many people considered your post a good one.

Catholics are christian, and yes, there are isolated instances of child abuse among a tiny proportion of its clergy, which are unacceptable, vbut equally unacceptable is putting the whole of Catholic clergy into the same category as muslim terrorist savages.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Or is this a cheap shot at Catholic Croatia?

Jeremic can pray if he wants in any mosque. He is half muslim from his mother side. His uncle was famous Bosnian comunist leader Hamdija Pozderac.

It is bit strange how albanians try to distance themselves from Muslims. They are only muslims when it suits there politic goals.

You should be ashamed of yourself. Or is this a cheap shot at Catholic Croatia?
(Peter Sudyka, 31 March 2010 12:38)

No, this is in regard what happened in NDH in second world war. The catholic church never appologised to Serbian victims of Croation genocide commited in world war two. Vatican helped many Ustaha escape justice after world war two.