Slovak FM on "wrong decision"

"Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that."
EA

Why should the will of some of the EU countries dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the UN countries. I can't get the logic of that.

"Because those EU, US, Japan , Canada, Australia and other powerful countries are the biggest contributors to the UN and all other international organisations,
therefore while it might not be morally right, it makes much more sense that their will is imposed."
nikshala

Have you ever wondered why these countries are more powerfull than others? Because they exploit poor countries and try to dominate and tell them what to do.
I hope you are not saying that if I am stronger and more powerfull than you then you should do everything I say and agree to everything I do? If I have more money than you, should my voice count more then yours?

"Now MikeC, before you come back with your tirade as a defender of international law and humankind moral values, how would you react if lets say all EU countries
supported the acceptance of Serbia in EU, and then this was vetoed by Croatia?! (This is assuming that Croatia joins the EU which it will, and assuming that your
support Serbia joining EU, which you probably don't).
nikshala

Yes, you are right that I don't support a EU membership for Serbia. One reason is the one you just mentioned. One country can, for no reason really, blackmail another not to block.
Besides, Europe doesn't speak with one voice. I don't know where they stand on any issue. Kosovo is one example and Turkey another. Some say Kosovo is independent, some say its not. Some say Turkey should join, some say it shouldn't. There are benifits, of course,
but I think in Serbias case it would be a bad idea to join. One or more countries will eventually force Serbia to recognize Kosovo or block Serbias entry. Serbs and Albanians have different views of the status of Kosovo but if Serbia wants to joing it will do so by humiliation.
I strongly believe that two sides need to come to an agreement for a long lasting solution to work and be successful. Forcing one side to give in for some pocket change is to me a great humiliation.

"Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that."
EA

Why should the will of some of the EU countries dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the UN countries. I can't get the logic of that.
(MikeC, 3 October 2009 15:30) "

Because those EU, US, Japan , Canada, Australia and other powerful countries are the biggest contributors to the UN and all other international organisations, therefore while it might not be morally right, it makes much more sense that their will is imposed.

The EU is a failed organisation when it comes to foreign policy, because one country can Veto the other 26 countries...this is even more of an issue when some small country like Cyprus of Slovakia who do not contribute in any way but only take money from EU.

Now MikeC, before you come back with your tirade as a defender of international law and humankind moral values, how would you react if lets say all EU countries supported the acceptance of Serbia in EU, and then this was vetoed by Croatia?! (This is assuming that Croatia joins the EU which it will, and assuming that your support Serbia joining EU, which you probably don't).

I think I will believe more in what EU's FMs say, as opposed to the Albanian diplomats on this site. Reality check, please, the world, or even the EU, is not all about Kosovo. Serbia is trying to have constructive cooperation with all its neighbors - what are the K_Albanians doing in that regard? Oh yes, they are demanding encyclopedias be changed to suite their false image.

Look who's talking, Slovakia a cradle of democracy. A country that PAID the Nazis to exterminate it's Jews is lecturing us what will be historicaly wrong.
Miroslav and Vukoslav are a team now. The World, watch out.

"..gratitude for the support to Serbia's integrity and sovereignty, expressed by Slovakia's peaceful and diplomatic actions directed at preserving Serbia's sovereignty in Kosovo and Metohija, said the statement." That is is a breathtaking sentence full of gratitude)) Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that.

The diplomat believes that the government in Belgrade could soon receive appraisal that it is fully cooperating with the Hague-based court, and also said that his country would not support any initiative that would put recognizing Kosovo as a condition for Serbia to join the EU.

Wrong Mr. Lajcak. You worked for EU, and you are fully aware how politics are played by EU. Just before Serbia gets to finish line, some europen country will put up a speed bumber and serbia will fall on its face. We all know how dirty EU plays.

P.S. when I say serbia , I don't mean serbian people but its govermant.

"Because those EU, US, Japan , Canada, Australia and other powerful countries are the biggest contributors to the UN and all other international organisations, therefore while it might not be morally right, it makes much more sense that their will is imposed."

No logic in this arguement
whatsoever. Anyone who listened to Obama's speech at the UN knows that the
USA is in no position to unilaterally solve the worlds problems. In fact, Obama explicitly acknowledged this fact when he invited countries who were critical of US unilateral action in the past to take a greater role
in UN operations. Obama has
essentially admitted that the US can't do it alone -
and he asked for help.

Where then is the logic that that USA should impose their own self-serving views on other nations whose help they not only desperately need, but have in fact explicitly requested?

However, he noted that the Serbian government "should be aware" that in the later phases of association, they will be asked to have good cooperation "with all neighbors in the region".
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This is funny. So Serbia will not recognize the "Republic of Kosovo" but it will have good cooperation? The minute you cooperate EU will ask you to recognize

EA,

Why if the majority of voters in US votes for person A, person B becomes president?

Well, that's because of the SYSTEM they are using. In EU we use a system where every state has to agree to welcome a new member. Well, not all agree so no Kosovo in EU.

What is unfair about that?

By the way, I do not like the US system for elections!

this is even more of an issue when some small country like Cyprus of Slovakia who do not contribute in any way but only take money from EU."

nikshala

Are you kidding me?! Slovakia and Cyprus are real countries, unlike the back whole of Kosovo which takes in billions in aid and gives nothing back but drug dealing and human trafficking. What a ridiculous comment from one of the residents of this false state.

"The EU is a failed organisation when it comes to foreign policy, because one country can Veto the other 26 countries...this is even more of an issue when some small country like Cyprus of Slovakia who do not contribute in any way but only take money from EU."

nikshala

Thank you but we dont need advice from you about how Eu should work. Seems albos think so much of them selves now that they consider that they are in a position to dictate Eu voting system. Its also wishful thinking on behalf of albs that EU is so concerned about Kosovo to force members andserbia to recognize.

FM's of EU countries should be aware of EU Treaty, Article 15, before they are playing games behind the back of their EU partners.

the EU positition towards all questions conserning Serbia are public and transparent. one must be able to read - even FMs

"That is is a breathtaking sentence full of gratitude)) Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that.
(EA, 3 October 2009 14:24)"

Actually according to the 2001 Slovakian census only 9.5% of its population is Hungarian.

Look who's talking, Slovakia a cradle of democracy. A country that PAID the Nazis to exterminate it's Jews is lecturing us what will be historicaly wrong.
Miroslav and Vukoslav are a team now. The World, watch out.

The diplomat believes that the government in Belgrade could soon receive appraisal that it is fully cooperating with the Hague-based court, and also said that his country would not support any initiative that would put recognizing Kosovo as a condition for Serbia to join the EU.

Wrong Mr. Lajcak. You worked for EU, and you are fully aware how politics are played by EU. Just before Serbia gets to finish line, some europen country will put up a speed bumber and serbia will fall on its face. We all know how dirty EU plays.

P.S. when I say serbia , I don't mean serbian people but its govermant.

"..gratitude for the support to Serbia's integrity and sovereignty, expressed by Slovakia's peaceful and diplomatic actions directed at preserving Serbia's sovereignty in Kosovo and Metohija, said the statement." That is is a breathtaking sentence full of gratitude)) Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that.

"Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that."
EA

Why should the will of some of the EU countries dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the UN countries. I can't get the logic of that.
(MikeC, 3 October 2009 15:30) "

Because those EU, US, Japan , Canada, Australia and other powerful countries are the biggest contributors to the UN and all other international organisations, therefore while it might not be morally right, it makes much more sense that their will is imposed.

The EU is a failed organisation when it comes to foreign policy, because one country can Veto the other 26 countries...this is even more of an issue when some small country like Cyprus of Slovakia who do not contribute in any way but only take money from EU.

Now MikeC, before you come back with your tirade as a defender of international law and humankind moral values, how would you react if lets say all EU countries supported the acceptance of Serbia in EU, and then this was vetoed by Croatia?! (This is assuming that Croatia joins the EU which it will, and assuming that your support Serbia joining EU, which you probably don't).

However, he noted that the Serbian government "should be aware" that in the later phases of association, they will be asked to have good cooperation "with all neighbors in the region".
---
This is funny. So Serbia will not recognize the "Republic of Kosovo" but it will have good cooperation? The minute you cooperate EU will ask you to recognize

I think I will believe more in what EU's FMs say, as opposed to the Albanian diplomats on this site. Reality check, please, the world, or even the EU, is not all about Kosovo. Serbia is trying to have constructive cooperation with all its neighbors - what are the K_Albanians doing in that regard? Oh yes, they are demanding encyclopedias be changed to suite their false image.

"Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that."
EA

Why should the will of some of the EU countries dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the UN countries. I can't get the logic of that.

EA,

Why if the majority of voters in US votes for person A, person B becomes president?

Well, that's because of the SYSTEM they are using. In EU we use a system where every state has to agree to welcome a new member. Well, not all agree so no Kosovo in EU.

What is unfair about that?

By the way, I do not like the US system for elections!

FM's of EU countries should be aware of EU Treaty, Article 15, before they are playing games behind the back of their EU partners.

the EU positition towards all questions conserning Serbia are public and transparent. one must be able to read - even FMs

"Because those EU, US, Japan , Canada, Australia and other powerful countries are the biggest contributors to the UN and all other international organisations,
therefore while it might not be morally right, it makes much more sense that their will is imposed."
nikshala

Have you ever wondered why these countries are more powerfull than others? Because they exploit poor countries and try to dominate and tell them what to do.
I hope you are not saying that if I am stronger and more powerfull than you then you should do everything I say and agree to everything I do? If I have more money than you, should my voice count more then yours?

"Now MikeC, before you come back with your tirade as a defender of international law and humankind moral values, how would you react if lets say all EU countries
supported the acceptance of Serbia in EU, and then this was vetoed by Croatia?! (This is assuming that Croatia joins the EU which it will, and assuming that your
support Serbia joining EU, which you probably don't).
nikshala

Yes, you are right that I don't support a EU membership for Serbia. One reason is the one you just mentioned. One country can, for no reason really, blackmail another not to block.
Besides, Europe doesn't speak with one voice. I don't know where they stand on any issue. Kosovo is one example and Turkey another. Some say Kosovo is independent, some say its not. Some say Turkey should join, some say it shouldn't. There are benifits, of course,
but I think in Serbias case it would be a bad idea to join. One or more countries will eventually force Serbia to recognize Kosovo or block Serbias entry. Serbs and Albanians have different views of the status of Kosovo but if Serbia wants to joing it will do so by humiliation.
I strongly believe that two sides need to come to an agreement for a long lasting solution to work and be successful. Forcing one side to give in for some pocket change is to me a great humiliation.

"Because those EU, US, Japan , Canada, Australia and other powerful countries are the biggest contributors to the UN and all other international organisations, therefore while it might not be morally right, it makes much more sense that their will is imposed."

No logic in this arguement
whatsoever. Anyone who listened to Obama's speech at the UN knows that the
USA is in no position to unilaterally solve the worlds problems. In fact, Obama explicitly acknowledged this fact when he invited countries who were critical of US unilateral action in the past to take a greater role
in UN operations. Obama has
essentially admitted that the US can't do it alone -
and he asked for help.

Where then is the logic that that USA should impose their own self-serving views on other nations whose help they not only desperately need, but have in fact explicitly requested?

"The EU is a failed organisation when it comes to foreign policy, because one country can Veto the other 26 countries...this is even more of an issue when some small country like Cyprus of Slovakia who do not contribute in any way but only take money from EU."

nikshala

Thank you but we dont need advice from you about how Eu should work. Seems albos think so much of them selves now that they consider that they are in a position to dictate Eu voting system. Its also wishful thinking on behalf of albs that EU is so concerned about Kosovo to force members andserbia to recognize.

this is even more of an issue when some small country like Cyprus of Slovakia who do not contribute in any way but only take money from EU."

nikshala

Are you kidding me?! Slovakia and Cyprus are real countries, unlike the back whole of Kosovo which takes in billions in aid and gives nothing back but drug dealing and human trafficking. What a ridiculous comment from one of the residents of this false state.

"That is is a breathtaking sentence full of gratitude)) Anyway why should the will of a small country like Slovakia whose 1/3 of the population are Hungarians dominate the will of the overwhelming majority of the EU countries. I can't get the logic of that.
(EA, 3 October 2009 14:24)"

Actually according to the 2001 Slovakian census only 9.5% of its population is Hungarian.