Jewish culture celebrated in Novi Sad

You must really live on another planet, since when,I mean lately, are the Jews marginalized??
(The Swiss, 7 September 2009 01:47)

They are places well on this planet where they are marginalized. Usually it is not successful - but some do try hard and some few evildoers even harder.

Just to name a small country: it's current president is an exception to be a major politician and oppose anti-semitism. Kudos to him for that.

Some other rare exceptions were Count Potyomkin and Empress Catherine (The Great). What country could it be, do you have a guess maybe?

Otherwise I don't think, there is any marginalization - at least officially and on surface - in Switzerland. The questions, who really Jews are, are they who they are and what does it mean - are enough to fill a large book, without a single answer to these questions.

Just to name few oddities: the Pashtuns in Afghanistan claim, they are Jews. So do Ashkenazis, Juhuros, Sephards, some Ethiopian tribes, some Turkomans and so on.

But for sure, unlike, say, Juhuros - the "fat cats" in Wall Street are not marginalized. But I am afraid, Roberto did not mean them or Abramovich brothers or George Soros or Nicolas Sarkozy.

I always have mixed feelings about such programs. on the one hand i am appreciative that there are exhibitions and events to commemorate our people and culture, and to share the best of our arts and traditions with the varied peoples of europe, long after my people "disappeared" as a result of hitler and his many, many willing executioners.

there is such richness and depth to the contributions of jewish life and culture for the european cultural terrain, and yet the typical references to jews are so often hateful and ignorant, despite how very few of us remain there. the irony of it all is never lost on us -- jews really get irony.

i was in novi sad some 9 years ago, and my acquaintances there brought me to a former synagogue, in quite top shape, that was serving as an attractive space for cultural events. again, it left me with very eerie feelings -- it was as smart a use of the space as one might imagine, and yet
what had happened to all remnants of the jews of novi sad? of course now i know -- pogroms, mass murder, deportation...

it is nice to mention such events, but if there is true intent to show some respect for my people i suggest some concrete steps. one is to ban anti-semitic remarks, and slurs ag. all minorities, which are not any kind of part of responsible "free speech" and which, in such a volatile environment as esp.ly E europe presently finds itself in, cannot help but contribute to an increase in hostility and tension, and danger for minorities.

the other is an acknowledgment that judaism and Jews are not all dead and gone, that there are millions of us scattered around the world worthy of respect and occasional note. that includes OUR significant holy days --- for example our New Year's that begins in about 2 weeks and esp.ly Yom Kippur, our day of atonement, which comes at the end of the month. (you can find the dates easily enough on the web.) That acknowledgment might be a small sign for myself and others that we, jews, despite all of the horrendous events of the last century, are not completely and utterly marginalized in the present.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

a small sign for myself and others that we, jews, despite all of the horrendous events of the last century, are not completely and utterly marginalized in the present.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 6 September 2009 20:55)

You must really live on another planet, since when,I mean lately, are the Jews marginalized?? Palestinians are marginalized not to say getthoed, for sure, and by whom??
Pls give us a break with your ongoing victime attitude, you are certainly the least to complain nowadays!

Before you call me a racist or an antisemit... my partners are Jews and believe me I never heard them complaining and crying like you do and I openly tell them my frustration about what has and is happening in Palestine.
Yes, this is called freedom of speech and smart people, irrespective of their nationalities always find the right way to communicate even on very sensitive issues. Try to learn it too!!

I always have mixed feelings about such programs. on the one hand i am appreciative that there are exhibitions and events to commemorate our people and culture, and to share the best of our arts and traditions with the varied peoples of europe, long after my people "disappeared" as a result of hitler and his many, many willing executioners.

there is such richness and depth to the contributions of jewish life and culture for the european cultural terrain, and yet the typical references to jews are so often hateful and ignorant, despite how very few of us remain there. the irony of it all is never lost on us -- jews really get irony.

i was in novi sad some 9 years ago, and my acquaintances there brought me to a former synagogue, in quite top shape, that was serving as an attractive space for cultural events. again, it left me with very eerie feelings -- it was as smart a use of the space as one might imagine, and yet
what had happened to all remnants of the jews of novi sad? of course now i know -- pogroms, mass murder, deportation...

it is nice to mention such events, but if there is true intent to show some respect for my people i suggest some concrete steps. one is to ban anti-semitic remarks, and slurs ag. all minorities, which are not any kind of part of responsible "free speech" and which, in such a volatile environment as esp.ly E europe presently finds itself in, cannot help but contribute to an increase in hostility and tension, and danger for minorities.

the other is an acknowledgment that judaism and Jews are not all dead and gone, that there are millions of us scattered around the world worthy of respect and occasional note. that includes OUR significant holy days --- for example our New Year's that begins in about 2 weeks and esp.ly Yom Kippur, our day of atonement, which comes at the end of the month. (you can find the dates easily enough on the web.) That acknowledgment might be a small sign for myself and others that we, jews, despite all of the horrendous events of the last century, are not completely and utterly marginalized in the present.

thank you.

roberto
frisco

a small sign for myself and others that we, jews, despite all of the horrendous events of the last century, are not completely and utterly marginalized in the present.

thank you.

roberto
frisco
(roberto, 6 September 2009 20:55)

You must really live on another planet, since when,I mean lately, are the Jews marginalized?? Palestinians are marginalized not to say getthoed, for sure, and by whom??
Pls give us a break with your ongoing victime attitude, you are certainly the least to complain nowadays!

Before you call me a racist or an antisemit... my partners are Jews and believe me I never heard them complaining and crying like you do and I openly tell them my frustration about what has and is happening in Palestine.
Yes, this is called freedom of speech and smart people, irrespective of their nationalities always find the right way to communicate even on very sensitive issues. Try to learn it too!!

You must really live on another planet, since when,I mean lately, are the Jews marginalized??
(The Swiss, 7 September 2009 01:47)

They are places well on this planet where they are marginalized. Usually it is not successful - but some do try hard and some few evildoers even harder.

Just to name a small country: it's current president is an exception to be a major politician and oppose anti-semitism. Kudos to him for that.

Some other rare exceptions were Count Potyomkin and Empress Catherine (The Great). What country could it be, do you have a guess maybe?

Otherwise I don't think, there is any marginalization - at least officially and on surface - in Switzerland. The questions, who really Jews are, are they who they are and what does it mean - are enough to fill a large book, without a single answer to these questions.

Just to name few oddities: the Pashtuns in Afghanistan claim, they are Jews. So do Ashkenazis, Juhuros, Sephards, some Ethiopian tribes, some Turkomans and so on.

But for sure, unlike, say, Juhuros - the "fat cats" in Wall Street are not marginalized. But I am afraid, Roberto did not mean them or Abramovich brothers or George Soros or Nicolas Sarkozy.