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Thursday, 25.06.2009.

09:58

Bulgarian courts chew over Ceku custody

The district court in the Bulgarian town of Chustendil has suspended a hearing on extending Agim Ceku’s custody period.

Izvor: Tanjug

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Ataman

pre 16 godina

In the decision to sign the "agreement" at Kumanovo, Yeltsin played a role, agreed.
(Amer, 26 June 2009 21:55)

Much more even before, Kumanovo was merely a last step. It was a "tripple act" with all three actors (Clinton, Yeltsin, Milosevic) having their evil role almost from the begin. Do not forget, Milosevic was known to HATE everything even remotely Russian and Yeltsin just had his knife in Gorbachyov's back.

To some of his excuse - if I would be Yeltsin and my choice would be "Clinton or Milosevic" - I would chose "40-proof Skanderbeu". I am not that much into vodka.

Amer

pre 16 godina

"You forgot other major factors like the relationship between Yeltsin and 40-proof Stolichnaya vodka. Arguably, that was the deciding factor."

In the decision to sign the "agreement" at Kumanovo, Yeltsin played a role, agreed. But if the JV hadn't been chewed up there at the end by the strikes against the forces the KLA was flushing out into the open, he wouldn't have add such an easy time of it, I don't think. If the JV couldn't handle the "rag-tag forces" of the KLA, even backed up by Nato air, there wasn't much chance of them holding off Nato ground forces plus KLA plus air support.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

Without the KLA, Nato would still be there, bombing camouflaged tanks.
(Amer, 26 June 2009 19:06)

You forgot other major factors like the relationship between Yeltsin and 40-proof Stolichnaya vodka. Arguably, that was the deciding factor.

Amer

pre 16 godina

'Although they have no merits at all for the liberation of Kosova(o), we all know it was NATO.'

I wonder who "we all" are - this isn't the way the story goes in the U.S. The Air Force was operating under such restrictive orders (a political decision - to prevent U.S. casualties) that they needed people on the ground to identify targets. (Bombing alone is usually insufficient to win against ground forces, whether the Air Force likes to hear this or not, except against massed forces in open ground.)

The JV had superior camouflage capabilities and it took the KLA to actually put the pressure on, towards the end by forcing the regular army troops out into the open to attack them, where they became vulnerable to air attack.

Without the KLA, Nato would still be there, bombing camouflaged tanks.

Kosova-USA

pre 16 godina

I was really happy to see two honest Albanian posters yesterday. What a change... Can't the "regulars" follow their example? Because what they write is the strongest anti-Albanian propaganda.
(Ataman, 26 June 2009 04:36)

I can assure you that they are not Albanians, but impastors. Just claiming to be Albanians.

Kada

pre 16 godina

@ (John, 25 June 2009 21:11):

I will save your comment, very nicely compiled! I'm very happy that there are still people such as you who truly understand the problem of Kosova(o), and the real cause behind it. I'm my self doing for the time being my PhD here in Germany, but having Thaqi and Co. down there I will never ever want to go back to contribute, I'm just sick and tired of developments down there. On the same time I feel very much sorry for the innocent population who is suffering a lot.

These guys try to blind people over their contribution to the liberation of Kosova(o), meanwhile they increase their private budget, and every now and then, we hear the ceases, when our politicians are caught in Switzerland with bags of millions in hand. Although they have no merits at all for the liberation of Kosova(o), we all know it was NATO.

Daveo Dinkum

pre 16 godina

Once again politics prevails over law. There is one thing that Serbian people have in their favour...patience. One day justice will come. We stand tall in the face of Western persecution.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

lecture about international laws, would be certainly very interesting...
(The Swiss, 25 June 2009 23:13)

I was really happy to see two honest Albanian posters yesterday. What a change... Can't the "regulars" follow their example? Because what they write is the strongest anti-Albanian propaganda.

GSP

pre 16 godina

Ceku made his own bed & now he must lie in it.

Let's face it, you don't get "accused" of something if there wasn't any evidence to back it up in the first place.

Stand for something or fall for anything. It's your choice.

CCCC

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

believes that Serbia could provide a fair trial to Ceku and therefore he will never be transferred to Serbia.
(John, 25 June 2009 21:11)

You are right John, the question is not whether Serbia want or could provide a fair trial to any of these thugs but really when Kososo will give itself a decent leadership. At this point of time there is no chance that any of the Albanians leaving outside will come back. After the UDI less than 1% left Switzerland!Why should they go back to a no future place! (their own comments)

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.
(Berkeley, 25 June 2009 15:32)

Oh yes, pls give us a lesson of diplomacy and at the same time a lecture about international laws, would be certainly very interesting...

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.
(Uranik, 25 June 2009 17:08)

Very hard to believe in the sincerity of your comment. Taking into consideration what I have heard and read many times in the Swiss media that Thaci and his little snakes have been racketing part of the peacefull Albanians leaving in Switzerland, I want to believe that there are indeed "normal" people and I hope that all will not stay silence for ever but rather stand up for a durable peace! Good luck

Ataman

pre 16 godina

I'm Kosovo Albanian myself
(Kada, 25 June 2009 19:45)

Looking at the spelling "Thaqi" versus "Thaci" I would guess so. ;)

Otherwise almost 100% agree, except that even if Ceku is more educated than Thaci, he should be at least tried for what he allegedly did. He faces serious charges.

Interesting, that while USA can do the "arm-twisting" on case-by-case basis, they can't make that Interpol warrant non-existing.

The way they are behind these thugs makes the chances for Kosovo to really emerge from where they are even less.

As stated before, I have no idea, why so many cling so hard on usual lies. It's getting boring and only very naive or very corrupt do believe.

I re-iterate, I have absolutely nothing against Kosovo/a if it would be as it should. It is not.

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On my own I would add, I did see numerous people in Kosovo who have the same views and who respect the government in BG more than who are in charge in PS. This is probably the silent majority indeed.

Ace

pre 16 godina

I suppose serbs hate so much because he fought serbs in both war which he won, so we all know why they desprate te get hold of him, not that serbs can do anything with and they well know it.

they will say bye bye to all the begging they've been doing in the west.
(theKosovar, 25 June 2009 17:09)

Agim Ceku never defeated anyone in combat. In both Croatia and Kosovo he was used by the West for their own purposes - and supported by Western military resources. He himself has not accomplished any military victory at all. As for the other comment that stated that even thought Ceku is not a Thaci ally, they stick together against a common enemy, all I can ask is... are you kidding me? Mobsters do not see loyalty to anyone. If you saw how many Albanians have killed other Albanians for greed and profit, you would not make such silly and ignorant comments. Either way, Ceku will get his one day - perhaps at the hands of another Albanian criminal.

John

pre 16 godina

Ace, I couldn’t agree more with you. Corruption is a serious problem and the government of Kosovo is nothing more than a bunch of peasants wearing suits. If we truly look at the profiles of the candidates that are running the Kosovo government today - we find out that these individuals are not fit to run a farm let alone a country.

However if international community truly wants to make a difference and help the people of Kosovo it should first send its professionals so that they could at least control corruption and bring it down to an expectable level. Point in case, with millions spent, Prishtina still does not have a two highway lane that connects its capital to the airport. I happen to be in Prishtina a month ago and its airport is filthy. It is shame that it collects millions of dollars and yet it doesn’t spend a dime in maintaining it. To this day there is still no running water and electricity. The medical sector is in total chaos as you are aware. Pensioners are getting ripped off while these good fellows drive in brand new SUV’s. The point is that you guys were brought in to fix these things not make them worse. It’s obvious that you guys share a 100% of the blame for the current state of affairs. The internationals managed funds for the renovation Obilic power plant. With millions of Euros spent and nothing to show for who is ultimately responsible and to whom? For a minute lets say UN managed these funds and as it appears they were not accountable to any authority, otherwise ¾ of these bureaucrats would have landed in jail. Nonetheless their era is over and new dawn has begun.

I am seriously hoping that with the arrival of EULEX things are going to change a bit for better. Hopefully EU heads will demand a better supervision of their money. After all with millions of Euros in line someone ultimately has to answer to the European taxpayers as to where this money is being spent.

I am convinced that for Kosovo to move ahead it needs to import a professional working force from Diaspora so that they could set things in motion for at least two to three years. There are millions of young Albanians which are well educated and hold various posts both in government and private sector. This force could in theory come back and lift the country back on its own feet. There has to be an incentive for anyone to leave a job that pays anywhere from 60 – 120K. The government of Kosovo has to find a way to make it attractive for these professionals to come back and help develop a new system. Until that happens I fear that Kosovo won’t move an inch forward.

However with Hashim Thaqi at the helm and Rumush right behind him no one in the right mind would dare to come back and challenge them. Personally I could care less whether these two men are sent to Hague, Belgrade or Mars for that matter. They are both criminals and deserve to be in jail. They have become a major obstacle to the economic development of Kosovo. Unfortunately, they have created a large network of criminal enterprises that controls anything and everything in Kosovo. These men have split Kosovo in half. Thaqi and his cronies control Prishtina, Drenica and Llapi region and Ramush controls the entire Dukagjini region. For Kosovo to move ahead first and foremost these two men and their cronies should be arrested and given lengthy sentences for the misappropriation and embezzlement of the Kosovo funds. There is plenty of evidence the question is: Can anyone dare touch the untouchables?

Lastly Agim Ceku is professional soldier who fought in Croatia and Kosovo. He brought discipline and knowledge among KLA ranks. If Serbia has such strong evidence against him, then Serbia should submit the entire evidence to the Hague tribunal the only body officially authorized to deal with war crimes in the former Yugoslavia. I think Serbia is playing a political game. It’s trying to desperately embarrass Kosovo Albanian leaders and so far it has succeeded it with Ceku. However not anyone seriously believes that Serbia could provide a fair trial to Ceku and therefore he will never be transferred to Serbia.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

alban:
> Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

Olf:
> I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.

Here's a reality check for you two.

Recently those 3 BND agents who were arrested by the KPS on charges of throwing a bomb at EU offices in pristina, were released after the germans started applying pressure.

Charges were spurious (albanian militants claimed responsibility) & were no doubt publically brought to embarrass the BND for earlier accusations against Thaci of 'far-reaching involvement in organised crime' & 'operating a criminal network operating throughout Kosovo'.

This was the response of a high-ranking BND official after the 3 were released:
“The German government had allowed itself to be dragged by the nose through global politics by a country in which organized crime is the form of government".

Sums the situation up nicely.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.

(Uranik, 25 June 2009 17:08)

Uranik,

I hope you are correct - i.e. you represent the MAJORITY of Albanians. Because reading the comments of some who (hopefully) represent the MINORITY is precisely the strongest pro-Serbian propaganda. That kind of disservice they do for Kosovo, but they seem not to understand it.

I nave absolutely nothing against "Kosova" - if what is built upon is not some medieval bigotry and nasty "in your face" lies.

Many thanks for encouraging posting - even if I don't even dare to hope, Ceku will be extradicted.

Kada

pre 16 godina

@ ace (post #12):
I'm Kosovo Albanian myself, but I wouldn't be able to describe the corruption level better myself. I totally admit, that corruption can't be any higher than the one at present. And what is worse, the people leading the country, PM Thaqi being one of them, are absolutely non educated thugs, which are the promoters of the corruption themselves.

Although I share all my sympathy with Ceku, a decent and well educated man, but I would have nothing absolutely nothing against, if Serbia arrested Thaqi for instance. It would just do the job for us, and make Kosova a better place to live.

All those who believe that the corruption level is low in Kosova(o) are either blind or are themselves in one way or the other involved in the corruption. And thanks to very those, we have people as such leading the country to its very own fatal end!

PS

pre 16 godina

This man is wanted for alleged crimes. There is no other issue, what possible excuse can Bulgaria have for not handing him over to face justice.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

"Why do your politicians have villas on the sea in Albania and drive 80,000 euro cars?"

Ace, you know the answer to that question ;-) Its because the "worlds youngest state" "Kosova" attracts such wealthy investors and have "the one and only world superpower" behind them ;-) They are a financial Mecca only after Dubai and Hong Kong.....

never give in

pre 16 godina

Ceku had been released with a letter from Thaqi that he has diplomatic imunnity as former PM of Kosovo, to all the previus comments that Thaqi whants him away.
Albanians never give up on its people even if they are political rival like some other do. Ceku is propobly on its way to Croatia to celebrate independence there

MikeC

pre 16 godina

"Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries."
Olf

Olf, you've got to be kidding!!! Kosovo is poorer than ever. You are not recognized by more than 60 countries, no UN seat, and conflict with the Serbs. No one want's to invest in Kosovo and still you say you are doing better than your neighbours. Who are you trying to fool?

"...its economic prospects are grim. Unemployment is 57 percent, and among youths it's more like 70 percent; half the population is under 25. Small wonder then that its chief export is organized crime. It remains ethnically cleansed of its Serb minority, who only survive in the province under armed guard by NATO."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/112945

If your neighbours are worse of than this, then we are really in trouble.

judas priest

pre 16 godina

Wow!No,make that triple wow!!!American agency Stratfor in essence is threatening serbian population in Kosovo with repression,if,by any minor chance,Ceku is deported to Serbia.If you are really,honestly unbiased,how in the world this statement leaves you untouched?

Albanes

pre 16 godina

If Ceku goes to Serbia all I can say is that "law and order" will be restored much faster in the North and all over Kosova.

Be careful what you wish for.

Joe

pre 16 godina

This guy also served in the Croatian army and played a role during operation Storm.

But ss he on the run now hismself? Slovenia, Hungary, Colombia. These places have not extradited him to Serbia but they DID kick him out of their countries
Why is he so eager to leave Kosovo? Is he doing "business" with his buddy mafiosi counterparts from other countries? Or is he on the run? It is no secret that the former KLA "freedom" fighters have become rivals.

And as for the corruption of Kosovo: there is no doubt that is it the most corrupt place in Europe. The EU threatened with stopping investment because of the millions that disappeared when constructing the new airport. Kosovo is Europe's center of gun, drugs and people trafficking and the Kosovo leadership and this guy are a big part of that.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.
(Berkeley, 25 June 2009 15:32

Berkeley,

Despite your obvious pretence to be an 'observer' in international relations, you simply cannot grasp what is going on in the world or realpolitik.

You see, Ceku like Thaci are puppets of the British-American Imperial project so they will do all they can to protect their protegés, even if that means evading justice.

The sham highlights the political, social, economic and moral bankruptcy of the West. Thaci and his gangster ilk are personal property of Washington, however when the US and EU tires of their puppets they will be tossed aside. Look at what happened to Saddam Hussein.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.
In this lite, I would also like to add that having in mind that for more than 20 years in Kosova was not invested situation is not that bad. I am aware of politicians villas and expesive cars but that is how it is eveywhere.
Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries. Kosova is only 1.5 years and I take your comments as positive since it shows that you would love to see Kosova prosper further.
(Olf, 25 June 2009 16:40)

You have got to be a windup merchant. 'Kosova' is fast approaching failed state status, has no functioning economy to speak of and has sky high unemployment coupled with political instability and lack of law and order.

Have you even ever been or lived in Serbia?

Uranik

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.

theKosovar

pre 16 godina

I suppose serbs hate so much because he fought serbs in both war which he won, so we all know why they desprate te get hold of him, not that serbs can do anything with and they well know it.

they will say bye bye to all the begging they've been doing in the west.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

Of course Ceku will be released to Kosova. One more time Serbia is ashamed that her interpol warrants are not being recognized.
It would have been better for Serbia not to even request extradition of Ceku because its just waste of respect for Serbia.

ace

pre 16 godina

Olf, you have articulately argued your point, and it is logical but I respectfully disagree. Just my opinion, but I think comparing the corruption here to other countries is off. The only reason that any corruption is reported here is that we are present to watch an dsupervise. Take, for example, the 40-something kilos of heroin that just happened to disappear from Kosovo Police custody. If we were not present, it may have gone unnoticed.

I will agree with you though, that internationals are very much responsible for committing corruption here too. That is something we never get a real grasp of because they will never release those kinds of figures.

Last point, I think Serbia has shown a good deal of fighting corruption as of late. Yes, there is tons more work to do as with anywhere, but it is a positive start. I am not seeing anything close to that in Kosovo although there is a ton of corruption here - from the heads of government all the way down to KP officers.

Olf

pre 16 godina

ace

good point. I am working in Kosovo for some time now and I have a different assesment.
Lost of money has come down to Kosovo but most of that money has gone on wages of mine, yours and our likes. Another part of that money is indeed invested. And the other part has disappered. The dissapeared part is most probaly divided between Locals 20%% and Internationals 80%.
You are talking of corruption but the corruption within locals is nothing comapred to corruption amongst Internationals.
I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.
In this lite, I would also like to add that having in mind that for more than 20 years in Kosova was not invested situation is not that bad. I am aware of politicians villas and expesive cars but that is how it is eveywhere.
Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries. Kosova is only 1.5 years and I take your comments as positive since it shows that you would love to see Kosova prosper further.

Berkeley

pre 16 godina

Irrespective of whether this arrest is justified or not it just proves one more time that the decision making process is not in the hands of Pristina
(The Swiss, 25 June 2009 10:44)

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.

Canadien

pre 16 godina

If Ceku is not extradited to Serbia then Mladic will never be arrested, period. And who would blame the Serbs for that? Who would have the tenacity to blame them? Plus this would set back relations between Bulgaria and Serbia even more then they are now, not to mention it will also give the current Bulgarian opposition party a boost in power in the political scene in Bulgaria claiming that the current party is nothing more than an American poodle more concerned with America's interest then their own and finally this will finally shatter Interpol's credibility for good. A lot to lose by not sending this Monster to Belgrade I cannot help but wonder is this fool worth it? How many times must the Americans bail him out, its been already 4 times!

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

ace,
i agree with your post.

It speaks volumes about the reality on the ground and is not distorted like the media portrayal provided by the international community.

The reality is the EU. International Community and USA messed up and have too much pride to admit that they were wrong.

pss

pre 16 godina

I do not believe anyone realistically expects that he will be extradited to Serbia. The problem for Serbia is that for another country to not do so even with an interpol warrant is another international judgment of the judicial system in Serbia. In short Serbia has not established any credibility in that area.
This should be more embarassing than the FM trying to convince the world that Resolution 1244 is a pro-Serbian document.

Rick

pre 16 godina

I wonder on what moral grounds the US, UK, and France have to stand on to pressure Bulgaria for Ceku's release. This is so disgusting to see- politics covertly "rescuing" Ceku again from being held legally accountable for his alleged actions against the Serbs. Do you think that Ceku would be protected from prosecution if his actions had been against the muslims or any other group of people? Don't think so. And his release, and lack of accountability will make this world a better place??? Molim!!! Just another example of anti-Serb biasness from our "friends".

Daniel

pre 16 godina

War criminals support war criminals. Those who wish Ceku released don't believe he is a war criminal because they don't believe killing others is a crime, except when their enemy does the killing. Unfortunately I don't believe that Bulgarians have the guts to release Ceku to Serbia; they will release him to Kosovo after a short delay to make it look like they were deliberating carefully. I'm sure they have a good public relations team in Washington preparing the strategy. It will go something like this: "Ok boys, just say you are keeping him behind bars for 3 days while you look over the Interpol warrant. However, in reality, keep him in a five star hotel at our expense of course; you know Ceku is one of our boys. Then, say that after careful deliberation we have decided that there is insufficient evidence to hold Ceku. We urge Serbia to submit a motion to the Hague..." Then when this is all done, the US "secret" guys will sell Bulgaria some weapons at a reduced price, or something else like that. Nothing happens legally or overtly (transparently) in this world; everything is done behind closed doors. Unfortunately, the new Serbian government is trying to play by the books thinking that it will give them some advantage when in reality being honest and decent puts one at an extreme disadvantage when others are using every means possible, legal or illegal, to win.

UK

pre 16 godina

OK, please someone, rather than posting infammatory remarks, please explain how the world organises its opinion about justice and balance? It seems that if the alleged criminal was Serb and allegedly committed a crime against someone other than a Serb then the whole world screams for an arrest and extradition to the Hague and prevents the whole Serb nation from entering EU or benefitting from no visa travel and generally accusing all Serbs of being murderous liars. However, if the alleged criminal is non Serb but allegedly committed crimes against Serbs then the whole world seems to jump at the chance to try and free that alleged criminal before he has appeared before any court to face trial. When will there be a balanced and impartial approach by all concerned to alleged criminals regardless of nationality? And when will some countries keep out of business which has absolutely nothing to do with them? Do we remember the incident with the Serb student accused of assault in US? How loud the US, Clinton and the rest shouted! Where are those "voices of justice" now?
How does anyone expect there to be any kind of respect or trust in the region if there continues to be this imbalance of approach?

ace

pre 16 godina

Thaci issued the arrest warrant or Serbia? As for EU money, Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

This will show that Serbia is seen as a banana republic, no one takes them seriously and don't even obey the intepol warrants. .
(Alban, 25 June 2009 12:37)

Alban, you cannot be serious about Kosovo having the lowest corruption rate in the Balkans. I have worked here for some years now and it is obvious that Kosovo is the MOST corrupt place in Europe. Ok, so some survey said otherwise... blah blah blah. With the whole international communtiy here the corruption is not reported so as not to embarrass our mission. I am not trying to be an ass, but come on, think about it. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been pumped in here yet the power is still screwed up, water goes off all the time, and there is not even a proper road from the airport to your so-called capital! If this money had not been embezzled by corrupt politicians, you could have a new, state-of-the-art country with brand new infrastructure. Look at Obilic plant... why are we breathing in toxic smoke every day when millions were given to rennovate it? Why is there no real hospital in the Albanian side of Mitrovica? Why do your politicians have villas on the sea in Albania and drive 80,000 euro cars?Think about it a bit and I believe you will see that the corruption here is awful. Just imagine what it will be like when the EU and UN leave... God help us all.

nikshala

pre 16 godina

Mike,

In some ways you are right - while Thaci did not orchestrate this, there certainly wasn't an outcry from the Kosovan goverment against the arrest or any kind of immediate public speech by the president or PM. The majority of commentators from Kosovo on albanian news site are really dissapointed with the lazy actions of the Kosovan goverment, because had it been any of the party members arrested of the parties in power we probably would have seen a more pro-active effort.

B92 - is it supposed to be 'actors' or 'factors'? On another news site which was citing B92 report, it said 'international factors'.

Alban

pre 16 godina

As someone said in the other topic about him, I wonder if this is not a way for the fat cats in Pristina to get rid of competition for the EU welfare money thrown over Kosovo....

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Thaci issued the arrest warrant or Serbia? As for EU money, Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

This will show that Serbia is seen as a banana republic, no one takes them seriously and don't even obey the intepol warrants. .

Nikola

pre 16 godina

Serbian authorities have been aware Mr. Ceku would not be extradited to Serbia, however the headline "Kosovo's former PM arrested" is a big sucess, since Kosovo has become a PR battle. Those news will slowdown new recognitions. Serbia has been very professional and thus sucessfull in promoting its interests on Kosovo, while Kosovo-Albanians are still waiting in the wings and seem to have no real strategy how to promote their independence.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

I wonder how much his release is worth to some politicians? Is it worth so much political will to help a war criminal go free?

As someone said in the other topic about him, I wonder if this is not a way for the fat cats in Pristina to get rid of competition for the EU welfare money thrown over Kosovo....

Mike

pre 16 godina

You know, a part of me thinks this arrest was somehow orchestrated by Thaci in order to eliminate his closest rival in the upcoming elections. I really wouldn't put it past him to do this. Whatever the case or reason, I hope he's extradicted to Serbia Proper soon. "International actors"? Who? Bernard Koucher? They putting together bribe money or what?

szemi

pre 16 godina

Seems that those "international actors"may get a better job from the west cost relatives(Hollywood)of some east cost politicians and lobbyists for taking part in this disgraceful action.Go and fight for Ceku and you can get the role of Darth Vader in a new version of Star Wars .

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Hajredin Kuqi says international actors have been engaged to help engineer the release of former Kosovo Premier Agim Ceku.

Irrespective of whether this arrest is justified or not it just proves one more time that the decision making process is not in the hands of Pristina

kate

pre 16 godina

I really hope that he is sent to Serbia and stands trial. Unfortunately, I am sure that the pressure is great from the 'international players'.

Just for once it would be nice to see that they are not able to distort international laws or interfere in usual procedure.

kate

pre 16 godina

I really hope that he is sent to Serbia and stands trial. Unfortunately, I am sure that the pressure is great from the 'international players'.

Just for once it would be nice to see that they are not able to distort international laws or interfere in usual procedure.

UK

pre 16 godina

OK, please someone, rather than posting infammatory remarks, please explain how the world organises its opinion about justice and balance? It seems that if the alleged criminal was Serb and allegedly committed a crime against someone other than a Serb then the whole world screams for an arrest and extradition to the Hague and prevents the whole Serb nation from entering EU or benefitting from no visa travel and generally accusing all Serbs of being murderous liars. However, if the alleged criminal is non Serb but allegedly committed crimes against Serbs then the whole world seems to jump at the chance to try and free that alleged criminal before he has appeared before any court to face trial. When will there be a balanced and impartial approach by all concerned to alleged criminals regardless of nationality? And when will some countries keep out of business which has absolutely nothing to do with them? Do we remember the incident with the Serb student accused of assault in US? How loud the US, Clinton and the rest shouted! Where are those "voices of justice" now?
How does anyone expect there to be any kind of respect or trust in the region if there continues to be this imbalance of approach?

ace

pre 16 godina

Thaci issued the arrest warrant or Serbia? As for EU money, Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

This will show that Serbia is seen as a banana republic, no one takes them seriously and don't even obey the intepol warrants. .
(Alban, 25 June 2009 12:37)

Alban, you cannot be serious about Kosovo having the lowest corruption rate in the Balkans. I have worked here for some years now and it is obvious that Kosovo is the MOST corrupt place in Europe. Ok, so some survey said otherwise... blah blah blah. With the whole international communtiy here the corruption is not reported so as not to embarrass our mission. I am not trying to be an ass, but come on, think about it. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been pumped in here yet the power is still screwed up, water goes off all the time, and there is not even a proper road from the airport to your so-called capital! If this money had not been embezzled by corrupt politicians, you could have a new, state-of-the-art country with brand new infrastructure. Look at Obilic plant... why are we breathing in toxic smoke every day when millions were given to rennovate it? Why is there no real hospital in the Albanian side of Mitrovica? Why do your politicians have villas on the sea in Albania and drive 80,000 euro cars?Think about it a bit and I believe you will see that the corruption here is awful. Just imagine what it will be like when the EU and UN leave... God help us all.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Hajredin Kuqi says international actors have been engaged to help engineer the release of former Kosovo Premier Agim Ceku.

Irrespective of whether this arrest is justified or not it just proves one more time that the decision making process is not in the hands of Pristina

Nikola

pre 16 godina

Serbian authorities have been aware Mr. Ceku would not be extradited to Serbia, however the headline "Kosovo's former PM arrested" is a big sucess, since Kosovo has become a PR battle. Those news will slowdown new recognitions. Serbia has been very professional and thus sucessfull in promoting its interests on Kosovo, while Kosovo-Albanians are still waiting in the wings and seem to have no real strategy how to promote their independence.

Mike

pre 16 godina

You know, a part of me thinks this arrest was somehow orchestrated by Thaci in order to eliminate his closest rival in the upcoming elections. I really wouldn't put it past him to do this. Whatever the case or reason, I hope he's extradicted to Serbia Proper soon. "International actors"? Who? Bernard Koucher? They putting together bribe money or what?

Rick

pre 16 godina

I wonder on what moral grounds the US, UK, and France have to stand on to pressure Bulgaria for Ceku's release. This is so disgusting to see- politics covertly "rescuing" Ceku again from being held legally accountable for his alleged actions against the Serbs. Do you think that Ceku would be protected from prosecution if his actions had been against the muslims or any other group of people? Don't think so. And his release, and lack of accountability will make this world a better place??? Molim!!! Just another example of anti-Serb biasness from our "friends".

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

I wonder how much his release is worth to some politicians? Is it worth so much political will to help a war criminal go free?

As someone said in the other topic about him, I wonder if this is not a way for the fat cats in Pristina to get rid of competition for the EU welfare money thrown over Kosovo....

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

ace,
i agree with your post.

It speaks volumes about the reality on the ground and is not distorted like the media portrayal provided by the international community.

The reality is the EU. International Community and USA messed up and have too much pride to admit that they were wrong.

Daniel

pre 16 godina

War criminals support war criminals. Those who wish Ceku released don't believe he is a war criminal because they don't believe killing others is a crime, except when their enemy does the killing. Unfortunately I don't believe that Bulgarians have the guts to release Ceku to Serbia; they will release him to Kosovo after a short delay to make it look like they were deliberating carefully. I'm sure they have a good public relations team in Washington preparing the strategy. It will go something like this: "Ok boys, just say you are keeping him behind bars for 3 days while you look over the Interpol warrant. However, in reality, keep him in a five star hotel at our expense of course; you know Ceku is one of our boys. Then, say that after careful deliberation we have decided that there is insufficient evidence to hold Ceku. We urge Serbia to submit a motion to the Hague..." Then when this is all done, the US "secret" guys will sell Bulgaria some weapons at a reduced price, or something else like that. Nothing happens legally or overtly (transparently) in this world; everything is done behind closed doors. Unfortunately, the new Serbian government is trying to play by the books thinking that it will give them some advantage when in reality being honest and decent puts one at an extreme disadvantage when others are using every means possible, legal or illegal, to win.

Canadien

pre 16 godina

If Ceku is not extradited to Serbia then Mladic will never be arrested, period. And who would blame the Serbs for that? Who would have the tenacity to blame them? Plus this would set back relations between Bulgaria and Serbia even more then they are now, not to mention it will also give the current Bulgarian opposition party a boost in power in the political scene in Bulgaria claiming that the current party is nothing more than an American poodle more concerned with America's interest then their own and finally this will finally shatter Interpol's credibility for good. A lot to lose by not sending this Monster to Belgrade I cannot help but wonder is this fool worth it? How many times must the Americans bail him out, its been already 4 times!

ace

pre 16 godina

Olf, you have articulately argued your point, and it is logical but I respectfully disagree. Just my opinion, but I think comparing the corruption here to other countries is off. The only reason that any corruption is reported here is that we are present to watch an dsupervise. Take, for example, the 40-something kilos of heroin that just happened to disappear from Kosovo Police custody. If we were not present, it may have gone unnoticed.

I will agree with you though, that internationals are very much responsible for committing corruption here too. That is something we never get a real grasp of because they will never release those kinds of figures.

Last point, I think Serbia has shown a good deal of fighting corruption as of late. Yes, there is tons more work to do as with anywhere, but it is a positive start. I am not seeing anything close to that in Kosovo although there is a ton of corruption here - from the heads of government all the way down to KP officers.

Alban

pre 16 godina

As someone said in the other topic about him, I wonder if this is not a way for the fat cats in Pristina to get rid of competition for the EU welfare money thrown over Kosovo....

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Thaci issued the arrest warrant or Serbia? As for EU money, Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

This will show that Serbia is seen as a banana republic, no one takes them seriously and don't even obey the intepol warrants. .

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.
In this lite, I would also like to add that having in mind that for more than 20 years in Kosova was not invested situation is not that bad. I am aware of politicians villas and expesive cars but that is how it is eveywhere.
Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries. Kosova is only 1.5 years and I take your comments as positive since it shows that you would love to see Kosova prosper further.
(Olf, 25 June 2009 16:40)

You have got to be a windup merchant. 'Kosova' is fast approaching failed state status, has no functioning economy to speak of and has sky high unemployment coupled with political instability and lack of law and order.

Have you even ever been or lived in Serbia?

nikshala

pre 16 godina

Mike,

In some ways you are right - while Thaci did not orchestrate this, there certainly wasn't an outcry from the Kosovan goverment against the arrest or any kind of immediate public speech by the president or PM. The majority of commentators from Kosovo on albanian news site are really dissapointed with the lazy actions of the Kosovan goverment, because had it been any of the party members arrested of the parties in power we probably would have seen a more pro-active effort.

B92 - is it supposed to be 'actors' or 'factors'? On another news site which was citing B92 report, it said 'international factors'.

szemi

pre 16 godina

Seems that those "international actors"may get a better job from the west cost relatives(Hollywood)of some east cost politicians and lobbyists for taking part in this disgraceful action.Go and fight for Ceku and you can get the role of Darth Vader in a new version of Star Wars .

Uranik

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.
(Berkeley, 25 June 2009 15:32

Berkeley,

Despite your obvious pretence to be an 'observer' in international relations, you simply cannot grasp what is going on in the world or realpolitik.

You see, Ceku like Thaci are puppets of the British-American Imperial project so they will do all they can to protect their protegés, even if that means evading justice.

The sham highlights the political, social, economic and moral bankruptcy of the West. Thaci and his gangster ilk are personal property of Washington, however when the US and EU tires of their puppets they will be tossed aside. Look at what happened to Saddam Hussein.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

alban:
> Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

Olf:
> I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.

Here's a reality check for you two.

Recently those 3 BND agents who were arrested by the KPS on charges of throwing a bomb at EU offices in pristina, were released after the germans started applying pressure.

Charges were spurious (albanian militants claimed responsibility) & were no doubt publically brought to embarrass the BND for earlier accusations against Thaci of 'far-reaching involvement in organised crime' & 'operating a criminal network operating throughout Kosovo'.

This was the response of a high-ranking BND official after the 3 were released:
“The German government had allowed itself to be dragged by the nose through global politics by a country in which organized crime is the form of government".

Sums the situation up nicely.

Kada

pre 16 godina

@ ace (post #12):
I'm Kosovo Albanian myself, but I wouldn't be able to describe the corruption level better myself. I totally admit, that corruption can't be any higher than the one at present. And what is worse, the people leading the country, PM Thaqi being one of them, are absolutely non educated thugs, which are the promoters of the corruption themselves.

Although I share all my sympathy with Ceku, a decent and well educated man, but I would have nothing absolutely nothing against, if Serbia arrested Thaqi for instance. It would just do the job for us, and make Kosova a better place to live.

All those who believe that the corruption level is low in Kosova(o) are either blind or are themselves in one way or the other involved in the corruption. And thanks to very those, we have people as such leading the country to its very own fatal end!

judas priest

pre 16 godina

Wow!No,make that triple wow!!!American agency Stratfor in essence is threatening serbian population in Kosovo with repression,if,by any minor chance,Ceku is deported to Serbia.If you are really,honestly unbiased,how in the world this statement leaves you untouched?

pss

pre 16 godina

I do not believe anyone realistically expects that he will be extradited to Serbia. The problem for Serbia is that for another country to not do so even with an interpol warrant is another international judgment of the judicial system in Serbia. In short Serbia has not established any credibility in that area.
This should be more embarassing than the FM trying to convince the world that Resolution 1244 is a pro-Serbian document.

MikeC

pre 16 godina

"Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries."
Olf

Olf, you've got to be kidding!!! Kosovo is poorer than ever. You are not recognized by more than 60 countries, no UN seat, and conflict with the Serbs. No one want's to invest in Kosovo and still you say you are doing better than your neighbours. Who are you trying to fool?

"...its economic prospects are grim. Unemployment is 57 percent, and among youths it's more like 70 percent; half the population is under 25. Small wonder then that its chief export is organized crime. It remains ethnically cleansed of its Serb minority, who only survive in the province under armed guard by NATO."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/112945

If your neighbours are worse of than this, then we are really in trouble.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

"Why do your politicians have villas on the sea in Albania and drive 80,000 euro cars?"

Ace, you know the answer to that question ;-) Its because the "worlds youngest state" "Kosova" attracts such wealthy investors and have "the one and only world superpower" behind them ;-) They are a financial Mecca only after Dubai and Hong Kong.....

Ace

pre 16 godina

I suppose serbs hate so much because he fought serbs in both war which he won, so we all know why they desprate te get hold of him, not that serbs can do anything with and they well know it.

they will say bye bye to all the begging they've been doing in the west.
(theKosovar, 25 June 2009 17:09)

Agim Ceku never defeated anyone in combat. In both Croatia and Kosovo he was used by the West for their own purposes - and supported by Western military resources. He himself has not accomplished any military victory at all. As for the other comment that stated that even thought Ceku is not a Thaci ally, they stick together against a common enemy, all I can ask is... are you kidding me? Mobsters do not see loyalty to anyone. If you saw how many Albanians have killed other Albanians for greed and profit, you would not make such silly and ignorant comments. Either way, Ceku will get his one day - perhaps at the hands of another Albanian criminal.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.
(Berkeley, 25 June 2009 15:32)

Oh yes, pls give us a lesson of diplomacy and at the same time a lecture about international laws, would be certainly very interesting...

Joe

pre 16 godina

This guy also served in the Croatian army and played a role during operation Storm.

But ss he on the run now hismself? Slovenia, Hungary, Colombia. These places have not extradited him to Serbia but they DID kick him out of their countries
Why is he so eager to leave Kosovo? Is he doing "business" with his buddy mafiosi counterparts from other countries? Or is he on the run? It is no secret that the former KLA "freedom" fighters have become rivals.

And as for the corruption of Kosovo: there is no doubt that is it the most corrupt place in Europe. The EU threatened with stopping investment because of the millions that disappeared when constructing the new airport. Kosovo is Europe's center of gun, drugs and people trafficking and the Kosovo leadership and this guy are a big part of that.

Olf

pre 16 godina

ace

good point. I am working in Kosovo for some time now and I have a different assesment.
Lost of money has come down to Kosovo but most of that money has gone on wages of mine, yours and our likes. Another part of that money is indeed invested. And the other part has disappered. The dissapeared part is most probaly divided between Locals 20%% and Internationals 80%.
You are talking of corruption but the corruption within locals is nothing comapred to corruption amongst Internationals.
I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.
In this lite, I would also like to add that having in mind that for more than 20 years in Kosova was not invested situation is not that bad. I am aware of politicians villas and expesive cars but that is how it is eveywhere.
Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries. Kosova is only 1.5 years and I take your comments as positive since it shows that you would love to see Kosova prosper further.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.

(Uranik, 25 June 2009 17:08)

Uranik,

I hope you are correct - i.e. you represent the MAJORITY of Albanians. Because reading the comments of some who (hopefully) represent the MINORITY is precisely the strongest pro-Serbian propaganda. That kind of disservice they do for Kosovo, but they seem not to understand it.

I nave absolutely nothing against "Kosova" - if what is built upon is not some medieval bigotry and nasty "in your face" lies.

Many thanks for encouraging posting - even if I don't even dare to hope, Ceku will be extradicted.

John

pre 16 godina

Ace, I couldn’t agree more with you. Corruption is a serious problem and the government of Kosovo is nothing more than a bunch of peasants wearing suits. If we truly look at the profiles of the candidates that are running the Kosovo government today - we find out that these individuals are not fit to run a farm let alone a country.

However if international community truly wants to make a difference and help the people of Kosovo it should first send its professionals so that they could at least control corruption and bring it down to an expectable level. Point in case, with millions spent, Prishtina still does not have a two highway lane that connects its capital to the airport. I happen to be in Prishtina a month ago and its airport is filthy. It is shame that it collects millions of dollars and yet it doesn’t spend a dime in maintaining it. To this day there is still no running water and electricity. The medical sector is in total chaos as you are aware. Pensioners are getting ripped off while these good fellows drive in brand new SUV’s. The point is that you guys were brought in to fix these things not make them worse. It’s obvious that you guys share a 100% of the blame for the current state of affairs. The internationals managed funds for the renovation Obilic power plant. With millions of Euros spent and nothing to show for who is ultimately responsible and to whom? For a minute lets say UN managed these funds and as it appears they were not accountable to any authority, otherwise ¾ of these bureaucrats would have landed in jail. Nonetheless their era is over and new dawn has begun.

I am seriously hoping that with the arrival of EULEX things are going to change a bit for better. Hopefully EU heads will demand a better supervision of their money. After all with millions of Euros in line someone ultimately has to answer to the European taxpayers as to where this money is being spent.

I am convinced that for Kosovo to move ahead it needs to import a professional working force from Diaspora so that they could set things in motion for at least two to three years. There are millions of young Albanians which are well educated and hold various posts both in government and private sector. This force could in theory come back and lift the country back on its own feet. There has to be an incentive for anyone to leave a job that pays anywhere from 60 – 120K. The government of Kosovo has to find a way to make it attractive for these professionals to come back and help develop a new system. Until that happens I fear that Kosovo won’t move an inch forward.

However with Hashim Thaqi at the helm and Rumush right behind him no one in the right mind would dare to come back and challenge them. Personally I could care less whether these two men are sent to Hague, Belgrade or Mars for that matter. They are both criminals and deserve to be in jail. They have become a major obstacle to the economic development of Kosovo. Unfortunately, they have created a large network of criminal enterprises that controls anything and everything in Kosovo. These men have split Kosovo in half. Thaqi and his cronies control Prishtina, Drenica and Llapi region and Ramush controls the entire Dukagjini region. For Kosovo to move ahead first and foremost these two men and their cronies should be arrested and given lengthy sentences for the misappropriation and embezzlement of the Kosovo funds. There is plenty of evidence the question is: Can anyone dare touch the untouchables?

Lastly Agim Ceku is professional soldier who fought in Croatia and Kosovo. He brought discipline and knowledge among KLA ranks. If Serbia has such strong evidence against him, then Serbia should submit the entire evidence to the Hague tribunal the only body officially authorized to deal with war crimes in the former Yugoslavia. I think Serbia is playing a political game. It’s trying to desperately embarrass Kosovo Albanian leaders and so far it has succeeded it with Ceku. However not anyone seriously believes that Serbia could provide a fair trial to Ceku and therefore he will never be transferred to Serbia.

PS

pre 16 godina

This man is wanted for alleged crimes. There is no other issue, what possible excuse can Bulgaria have for not handing him over to face justice.

Berkeley

pre 16 godina

Irrespective of whether this arrest is justified or not it just proves one more time that the decision making process is not in the hands of Pristina
(The Swiss, 25 June 2009 10:44)

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.

theKosovar

pre 16 godina

I suppose serbs hate so much because he fought serbs in both war which he won, so we all know why they desprate te get hold of him, not that serbs can do anything with and they well know it.

they will say bye bye to all the begging they've been doing in the west.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

Of course Ceku will be released to Kosova. One more time Serbia is ashamed that her interpol warrants are not being recognized.
It would have been better for Serbia not to even request extradition of Ceku because its just waste of respect for Serbia.

Albanes

pre 16 godina

If Ceku goes to Serbia all I can say is that "law and order" will be restored much faster in the North and all over Kosova.

Be careful what you wish for.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

I'm Kosovo Albanian myself
(Kada, 25 June 2009 19:45)

Looking at the spelling "Thaqi" versus "Thaci" I would guess so. ;)

Otherwise almost 100% agree, except that even if Ceku is more educated than Thaci, he should be at least tried for what he allegedly did. He faces serious charges.

Interesting, that while USA can do the "arm-twisting" on case-by-case basis, they can't make that Interpol warrant non-existing.

The way they are behind these thugs makes the chances for Kosovo to really emerge from where they are even less.

As stated before, I have no idea, why so many cling so hard on usual lies. It's getting boring and only very naive or very corrupt do believe.

I re-iterate, I have absolutely nothing against Kosovo/a if it would be as it should. It is not.

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On my own I would add, I did see numerous people in Kosovo who have the same views and who respect the government in BG more than who are in charge in PS. This is probably the silent majority indeed.

never give in

pre 16 godina

Ceku had been released with a letter from Thaqi that he has diplomatic imunnity as former PM of Kosovo, to all the previus comments that Thaqi whants him away.
Albanians never give up on its people even if they are political rival like some other do. Ceku is propobly on its way to Croatia to celebrate independence there

Ataman

pre 16 godina

lecture about international laws, would be certainly very interesting...
(The Swiss, 25 June 2009 23:13)

I was really happy to see two honest Albanian posters yesterday. What a change... Can't the "regulars" follow their example? Because what they write is the strongest anti-Albanian propaganda.

Kada

pre 16 godina

@ (John, 25 June 2009 21:11):

I will save your comment, very nicely compiled! I'm very happy that there are still people such as you who truly understand the problem of Kosova(o), and the real cause behind it. I'm my self doing for the time being my PhD here in Germany, but having Thaqi and Co. down there I will never ever want to go back to contribute, I'm just sick and tired of developments down there. On the same time I feel very much sorry for the innocent population who is suffering a lot.

These guys try to blind people over their contribution to the liberation of Kosova(o), meanwhile they increase their private budget, and every now and then, we hear the ceases, when our politicians are caught in Switzerland with bags of millions in hand. Although they have no merits at all for the liberation of Kosova(o), we all know it was NATO.

GSP

pre 16 godina

Ceku made his own bed & now he must lie in it.

Let's face it, you don't get "accused" of something if there wasn't any evidence to back it up in the first place.

Stand for something or fall for anything. It's your choice.

CCCC

Daveo Dinkum

pre 16 godina

Once again politics prevails over law. There is one thing that Serbian people have in their favour...patience. One day justice will come. We stand tall in the face of Western persecution.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

believes that Serbia could provide a fair trial to Ceku and therefore he will never be transferred to Serbia.
(John, 25 June 2009 21:11)

You are right John, the question is not whether Serbia want or could provide a fair trial to any of these thugs but really when Kososo will give itself a decent leadership. At this point of time there is no chance that any of the Albanians leaving outside will come back. After the UDI less than 1% left Switzerland!Why should they go back to a no future place! (their own comments)

Ataman

pre 16 godina

In the decision to sign the "agreement" at Kumanovo, Yeltsin played a role, agreed.
(Amer, 26 June 2009 21:55)

Much more even before, Kumanovo was merely a last step. It was a "tripple act" with all three actors (Clinton, Yeltsin, Milosevic) having their evil role almost from the begin. Do not forget, Milosevic was known to HATE everything even remotely Russian and Yeltsin just had his knife in Gorbachyov's back.

To some of his excuse - if I would be Yeltsin and my choice would be "Clinton or Milosevic" - I would chose "40-proof Skanderbeu". I am not that much into vodka.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

Without the KLA, Nato would still be there, bombing camouflaged tanks.
(Amer, 26 June 2009 19:06)

You forgot other major factors like the relationship between Yeltsin and 40-proof Stolichnaya vodka. Arguably, that was the deciding factor.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.
(Uranik, 25 June 2009 17:08)

Very hard to believe in the sincerity of your comment. Taking into consideration what I have heard and read many times in the Swiss media that Thaci and his little snakes have been racketing part of the peacefull Albanians leaving in Switzerland, I want to believe that there are indeed "normal" people and I hope that all will not stay silence for ever but rather stand up for a durable peace! Good luck

Kosova-USA

pre 16 godina

I was really happy to see two honest Albanian posters yesterday. What a change... Can't the "regulars" follow their example? Because what they write is the strongest anti-Albanian propaganda.
(Ataman, 26 June 2009 04:36)

I can assure you that they are not Albanians, but impastors. Just claiming to be Albanians.

Amer

pre 16 godina

'Although they have no merits at all for the liberation of Kosova(o), we all know it was NATO.'

I wonder who "we all" are - this isn't the way the story goes in the U.S. The Air Force was operating under such restrictive orders (a political decision - to prevent U.S. casualties) that they needed people on the ground to identify targets. (Bombing alone is usually insufficient to win against ground forces, whether the Air Force likes to hear this or not, except against massed forces in open ground.)

The JV had superior camouflage capabilities and it took the KLA to actually put the pressure on, towards the end by forcing the regular army troops out into the open to attack them, where they became vulnerable to air attack.

Without the KLA, Nato would still be there, bombing camouflaged tanks.

Amer

pre 16 godina

"You forgot other major factors like the relationship between Yeltsin and 40-proof Stolichnaya vodka. Arguably, that was the deciding factor."

In the decision to sign the "agreement" at Kumanovo, Yeltsin played a role, agreed. But if the JV hadn't been chewed up there at the end by the strikes against the forces the KLA was flushing out into the open, he wouldn't have add such an easy time of it, I don't think. If the JV couldn't handle the "rag-tag forces" of the KLA, even backed up by Nato air, there wasn't much chance of them holding off Nato ground forces plus KLA plus air support.

Alban

pre 16 godina

As someone said in the other topic about him, I wonder if this is not a way for the fat cats in Pristina to get rid of competition for the EU welfare money thrown over Kosovo....

--
Thaci issued the arrest warrant or Serbia? As for EU money, Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

This will show that Serbia is seen as a banana republic, no one takes them seriously and don't even obey the intepol warrants. .

Olf

pre 16 godina

ace

good point. I am working in Kosovo for some time now and I have a different assesment.
Lost of money has come down to Kosovo but most of that money has gone on wages of mine, yours and our likes. Another part of that money is indeed invested. And the other part has disappered. The dissapeared part is most probaly divided between Locals 20%% and Internationals 80%.
You are talking of corruption but the corruption within locals is nothing comapred to corruption amongst Internationals.
I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.
In this lite, I would also like to add that having in mind that for more than 20 years in Kosova was not invested situation is not that bad. I am aware of politicians villas and expesive cars but that is how it is eveywhere.
Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries. Kosova is only 1.5 years and I take your comments as positive since it shows that you would love to see Kosova prosper further.

kate

pre 16 godina

I really hope that he is sent to Serbia and stands trial. Unfortunately, I am sure that the pressure is great from the 'international players'.

Just for once it would be nice to see that they are not able to distort international laws or interfere in usual procedure.

pss

pre 16 godina

I do not believe anyone realistically expects that he will be extradited to Serbia. The problem for Serbia is that for another country to not do so even with an interpol warrant is another international judgment of the judicial system in Serbia. In short Serbia has not established any credibility in that area.
This should be more embarassing than the FM trying to convince the world that Resolution 1244 is a pro-Serbian document.

theKosovar

pre 16 godina

I suppose serbs hate so much because he fought serbs in both war which he won, so we all know why they desprate te get hold of him, not that serbs can do anything with and they well know it.

they will say bye bye to all the begging they've been doing in the west.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

Of course Ceku will be released to Kosova. One more time Serbia is ashamed that her interpol warrants are not being recognized.
It would have been better for Serbia not to even request extradition of Ceku because its just waste of respect for Serbia.

Mike

pre 16 godina

You know, a part of me thinks this arrest was somehow orchestrated by Thaci in order to eliminate his closest rival in the upcoming elections. I really wouldn't put it past him to do this. Whatever the case or reason, I hope he's extradicted to Serbia Proper soon. "International actors"? Who? Bernard Koucher? They putting together bribe money or what?

Berkeley

pre 16 godina

Irrespective of whether this arrest is justified or not it just proves one more time that the decision making process is not in the hands of Pristina
(The Swiss, 25 June 2009 10:44)

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

Kosovo Deputy Prime Minister Hajredin Kuqi says international actors have been engaged to help engineer the release of former Kosovo Premier Agim Ceku.

Irrespective of whether this arrest is justified or not it just proves one more time that the decision making process is not in the hands of Pristina

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

I wonder how much his release is worth to some politicians? Is it worth so much political will to help a war criminal go free?

As someone said in the other topic about him, I wonder if this is not a way for the fat cats in Pristina to get rid of competition for the EU welfare money thrown over Kosovo....

Albanes

pre 16 godina

If Ceku goes to Serbia all I can say is that "law and order" will be restored much faster in the North and all over Kosova.

Be careful what you wish for.

Nikola

pre 16 godina

Serbian authorities have been aware Mr. Ceku would not be extradited to Serbia, however the headline "Kosovo's former PM arrested" is a big sucess, since Kosovo has become a PR battle. Those news will slowdown new recognitions. Serbia has been very professional and thus sucessfull in promoting its interests on Kosovo, while Kosovo-Albanians are still waiting in the wings and seem to have no real strategy how to promote their independence.

szemi

pre 16 godina

Seems that those "international actors"may get a better job from the west cost relatives(Hollywood)of some east cost politicians and lobbyists for taking part in this disgraceful action.Go and fight for Ceku and you can get the role of Darth Vader in a new version of Star Wars .

Daniel

pre 16 godina

War criminals support war criminals. Those who wish Ceku released don't believe he is a war criminal because they don't believe killing others is a crime, except when their enemy does the killing. Unfortunately I don't believe that Bulgarians have the guts to release Ceku to Serbia; they will release him to Kosovo after a short delay to make it look like they were deliberating carefully. I'm sure they have a good public relations team in Washington preparing the strategy. It will go something like this: "Ok boys, just say you are keeping him behind bars for 3 days while you look over the Interpol warrant. However, in reality, keep him in a five star hotel at our expense of course; you know Ceku is one of our boys. Then, say that after careful deliberation we have decided that there is insufficient evidence to hold Ceku. We urge Serbia to submit a motion to the Hague..." Then when this is all done, the US "secret" guys will sell Bulgaria some weapons at a reduced price, or something else like that. Nothing happens legally or overtly (transparently) in this world; everything is done behind closed doors. Unfortunately, the new Serbian government is trying to play by the books thinking that it will give them some advantage when in reality being honest and decent puts one at an extreme disadvantage when others are using every means possible, legal or illegal, to win.

never give in

pre 16 godina

Ceku had been released with a letter from Thaqi that he has diplomatic imunnity as former PM of Kosovo, to all the previus comments that Thaqi whants him away.
Albanians never give up on its people even if they are political rival like some other do. Ceku is propobly on its way to Croatia to celebrate independence there

ace

pre 16 godina

Thaci issued the arrest warrant or Serbia? As for EU money, Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

This will show that Serbia is seen as a banana republic, no one takes them seriously and don't even obey the intepol warrants. .
(Alban, 25 June 2009 12:37)

Alban, you cannot be serious about Kosovo having the lowest corruption rate in the Balkans. I have worked here for some years now and it is obvious that Kosovo is the MOST corrupt place in Europe. Ok, so some survey said otherwise... blah blah blah. With the whole international communtiy here the corruption is not reported so as not to embarrass our mission. I am not trying to be an ass, but come on, think about it. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been pumped in here yet the power is still screwed up, water goes off all the time, and there is not even a proper road from the airport to your so-called capital! If this money had not been embezzled by corrupt politicians, you could have a new, state-of-the-art country with brand new infrastructure. Look at Obilic plant... why are we breathing in toxic smoke every day when millions were given to rennovate it? Why is there no real hospital in the Albanian side of Mitrovica? Why do your politicians have villas on the sea in Albania and drive 80,000 euro cars?Think about it a bit and I believe you will see that the corruption here is awful. Just imagine what it will be like when the EU and UN leave... God help us all.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

ace,
i agree with your post.

It speaks volumes about the reality on the ground and is not distorted like the media portrayal provided by the international community.

The reality is the EU. International Community and USA messed up and have too much pride to admit that they were wrong.

Rick

pre 16 godina

I wonder on what moral grounds the US, UK, and France have to stand on to pressure Bulgaria for Ceku's release. This is so disgusting to see- politics covertly "rescuing" Ceku again from being held legally accountable for his alleged actions against the Serbs. Do you think that Ceku would be protected from prosecution if his actions had been against the muslims or any other group of people? Don't think so. And his release, and lack of accountability will make this world a better place??? Molim!!! Just another example of anti-Serb biasness from our "friends".

nikshala

pre 16 godina

Mike,

In some ways you are right - while Thaci did not orchestrate this, there certainly wasn't an outcry from the Kosovan goverment against the arrest or any kind of immediate public speech by the president or PM. The majority of commentators from Kosovo on albanian news site are really dissapointed with the lazy actions of the Kosovan goverment, because had it been any of the party members arrested of the parties in power we probably would have seen a more pro-active effort.

B92 - is it supposed to be 'actors' or 'factors'? On another news site which was citing B92 report, it said 'international factors'.

Uranik

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.

UK

pre 16 godina

OK, please someone, rather than posting infammatory remarks, please explain how the world organises its opinion about justice and balance? It seems that if the alleged criminal was Serb and allegedly committed a crime against someone other than a Serb then the whole world screams for an arrest and extradition to the Hague and prevents the whole Serb nation from entering EU or benefitting from no visa travel and generally accusing all Serbs of being murderous liars. However, if the alleged criminal is non Serb but allegedly committed crimes against Serbs then the whole world seems to jump at the chance to try and free that alleged criminal before he has appeared before any court to face trial. When will there be a balanced and impartial approach by all concerned to alleged criminals regardless of nationality? And when will some countries keep out of business which has absolutely nothing to do with them? Do we remember the incident with the Serb student accused of assault in US? How loud the US, Clinton and the rest shouted! Where are those "voices of justice" now?
How does anyone expect there to be any kind of respect or trust in the region if there continues to be this imbalance of approach?

Joe

pre 16 godina

This guy also served in the Croatian army and played a role during operation Storm.

But ss he on the run now hismself? Slovenia, Hungary, Colombia. These places have not extradited him to Serbia but they DID kick him out of their countries
Why is he so eager to leave Kosovo? Is he doing "business" with his buddy mafiosi counterparts from other countries? Or is he on the run? It is no secret that the former KLA "freedom" fighters have become rivals.

And as for the corruption of Kosovo: there is no doubt that is it the most corrupt place in Europe. The EU threatened with stopping investment because of the millions that disappeared when constructing the new airport. Kosovo is Europe's center of gun, drugs and people trafficking and the Kosovo leadership and this guy are a big part of that.

Canadien

pre 16 godina

If Ceku is not extradited to Serbia then Mladic will never be arrested, period. And who would blame the Serbs for that? Who would have the tenacity to blame them? Plus this would set back relations between Bulgaria and Serbia even more then they are now, not to mention it will also give the current Bulgarian opposition party a boost in power in the political scene in Bulgaria claiming that the current party is nothing more than an American poodle more concerned with America's interest then their own and finally this will finally shatter Interpol's credibility for good. A lot to lose by not sending this Monster to Belgrade I cannot help but wonder is this fool worth it? How many times must the Americans bail him out, its been already 4 times!

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

"Why do your politicians have villas on the sea in Albania and drive 80,000 euro cars?"

Ace, you know the answer to that question ;-) Its because the "worlds youngest state" "Kosova" attracts such wealthy investors and have "the one and only world superpower" behind them ;-) They are a financial Mecca only after Dubai and Hong Kong.....

Ataman

pre 16 godina

I'm Kosovo Albanian myself
(Kada, 25 June 2009 19:45)

Looking at the spelling "Thaqi" versus "Thaci" I would guess so. ;)

Otherwise almost 100% agree, except that even if Ceku is more educated than Thaci, he should be at least tried for what he allegedly did. He faces serious charges.

Interesting, that while USA can do the "arm-twisting" on case-by-case basis, they can't make that Interpol warrant non-existing.

The way they are behind these thugs makes the chances for Kosovo to really emerge from where they are even less.

As stated before, I have no idea, why so many cling so hard on usual lies. It's getting boring and only very naive or very corrupt do believe.

I re-iterate, I have absolutely nothing against Kosovo/a if it would be as it should. It is not.

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On my own I would add, I did see numerous people in Kosovo who have the same views and who respect the government in BG more than who are in charge in PS. This is probably the silent majority indeed.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.

(Uranik, 25 June 2009 17:08)

Uranik,

I hope you are correct - i.e. you represent the MAJORITY of Albanians. Because reading the comments of some who (hopefully) represent the MINORITY is precisely the strongest pro-Serbian propaganda. That kind of disservice they do for Kosovo, but they seem not to understand it.

I nave absolutely nothing against "Kosova" - if what is built upon is not some medieval bigotry and nasty "in your face" lies.

Many thanks for encouraging posting - even if I don't even dare to hope, Ceku will be extradicted.

MikeC

pre 16 godina

"Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries."
Olf

Olf, you've got to be kidding!!! Kosovo is poorer than ever. You are not recognized by more than 60 countries, no UN seat, and conflict with the Serbs. No one want's to invest in Kosovo and still you say you are doing better than your neighbours. Who are you trying to fool?

"...its economic prospects are grim. Unemployment is 57 percent, and among youths it's more like 70 percent; half the population is under 25. Small wonder then that its chief export is organized crime. It remains ethnically cleansed of its Serb minority, who only survive in the province under armed guard by NATO."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/112945

If your neighbours are worse of than this, then we are really in trouble.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

alban:
> Kosova is not Serbia: while there is corruption, it's the lowest in the Balkans.

Olf:
> I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.

Here's a reality check for you two.

Recently those 3 BND agents who were arrested by the KPS on charges of throwing a bomb at EU offices in pristina, were released after the germans started applying pressure.

Charges were spurious (albanian militants claimed responsibility) & were no doubt publically brought to embarrass the BND for earlier accusations against Thaci of 'far-reaching involvement in organised crime' & 'operating a criminal network operating throughout Kosovo'.

This was the response of a high-ranking BND official after the 3 were released:
“The German government had allowed itself to be dragged by the nose through global politics by a country in which organized crime is the form of government".

Sums the situation up nicely.

ace

pre 16 godina

Olf, you have articulately argued your point, and it is logical but I respectfully disagree. Just my opinion, but I think comparing the corruption here to other countries is off. The only reason that any corruption is reported here is that we are present to watch an dsupervise. Take, for example, the 40-something kilos of heroin that just happened to disappear from Kosovo Police custody. If we were not present, it may have gone unnoticed.

I will agree with you though, that internationals are very much responsible for committing corruption here too. That is something we never get a real grasp of because they will never release those kinds of figures.

Last point, I think Serbia has shown a good deal of fighting corruption as of late. Yes, there is tons more work to do as with anywhere, but it is a positive start. I am not seeing anything close to that in Kosovo although there is a ton of corruption here - from the heads of government all the way down to KP officers.

PS

pre 16 godina

This man is wanted for alleged crimes. There is no other issue, what possible excuse can Bulgaria have for not handing him over to face justice.

Ace

pre 16 godina

I suppose serbs hate so much because he fought serbs in both war which he won, so we all know why they desprate te get hold of him, not that serbs can do anything with and they well know it.

they will say bye bye to all the begging they've been doing in the west.
(theKosovar, 25 June 2009 17:09)

Agim Ceku never defeated anyone in combat. In both Croatia and Kosovo he was used by the West for their own purposes - and supported by Western military resources. He himself has not accomplished any military victory at all. As for the other comment that stated that even thought Ceku is not a Thaci ally, they stick together against a common enemy, all I can ask is... are you kidding me? Mobsters do not see loyalty to anyone. If you saw how many Albanians have killed other Albanians for greed and profit, you would not make such silly and ignorant comments. Either way, Ceku will get his one day - perhaps at the hands of another Albanian criminal.

Kosova-USA

pre 16 godina

I was really happy to see two honest Albanian posters yesterday. What a change... Can't the "regulars" follow their example? Because what they write is the strongest anti-Albanian propaganda.
(Ataman, 26 June 2009 04:36)

I can assure you that they are not Albanians, but impastors. Just claiming to be Albanians.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.
(Berkeley, 25 June 2009 15:32)

Oh yes, pls give us a lesson of diplomacy and at the same time a lecture about international laws, would be certainly very interesting...

Amer

pre 16 godina

"You forgot other major factors like the relationship between Yeltsin and 40-proof Stolichnaya vodka. Arguably, that was the deciding factor."

In the decision to sign the "agreement" at Kumanovo, Yeltsin played a role, agreed. But if the JV hadn't been chewed up there at the end by the strikes against the forces the KLA was flushing out into the open, he wouldn't have add such an easy time of it, I don't think. If the JV couldn't handle the "rag-tag forces" of the KLA, even backed up by Nato air, there wasn't much chance of them holding off Nato ground forces plus KLA plus air support.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

I think that level of corruption is much higher in Serbia and Macedonia than in Kosova but the differnce is that in Kosova is reported and aknowledged whereas in Serbia, Macediani etc is rife and growing but not reported.
In this lite, I would also like to add that having in mind that for more than 20 years in Kosova was not invested situation is not that bad. I am aware of politicians villas and expesive cars but that is how it is eveywhere.
Taking into account many factors Kosova is not in a such bad possition when you comapare it with neighbouring ountries. Kosova is only 1.5 years and I take your comments as positive since it shows that you would love to see Kosova prosper further.
(Olf, 25 June 2009 16:40)

You have got to be a windup merchant. 'Kosova' is fast approaching failed state status, has no functioning economy to speak of and has sky high unemployment coupled with political instability and lack of law and order.

Have you even ever been or lived in Serbia?

John

pre 16 godina

Ace, I couldn’t agree more with you. Corruption is a serious problem and the government of Kosovo is nothing more than a bunch of peasants wearing suits. If we truly look at the profiles of the candidates that are running the Kosovo government today - we find out that these individuals are not fit to run a farm let alone a country.

However if international community truly wants to make a difference and help the people of Kosovo it should first send its professionals so that they could at least control corruption and bring it down to an expectable level. Point in case, with millions spent, Prishtina still does not have a two highway lane that connects its capital to the airport. I happen to be in Prishtina a month ago and its airport is filthy. It is shame that it collects millions of dollars and yet it doesn’t spend a dime in maintaining it. To this day there is still no running water and electricity. The medical sector is in total chaos as you are aware. Pensioners are getting ripped off while these good fellows drive in brand new SUV’s. The point is that you guys were brought in to fix these things not make them worse. It’s obvious that you guys share a 100% of the blame for the current state of affairs. The internationals managed funds for the renovation Obilic power plant. With millions of Euros spent and nothing to show for who is ultimately responsible and to whom? For a minute lets say UN managed these funds and as it appears they were not accountable to any authority, otherwise ¾ of these bureaucrats would have landed in jail. Nonetheless their era is over and new dawn has begun.

I am seriously hoping that with the arrival of EULEX things are going to change a bit for better. Hopefully EU heads will demand a better supervision of their money. After all with millions of Euros in line someone ultimately has to answer to the European taxpayers as to where this money is being spent.

I am convinced that for Kosovo to move ahead it needs to import a professional working force from Diaspora so that they could set things in motion for at least two to three years. There are millions of young Albanians which are well educated and hold various posts both in government and private sector. This force could in theory come back and lift the country back on its own feet. There has to be an incentive for anyone to leave a job that pays anywhere from 60 – 120K. The government of Kosovo has to find a way to make it attractive for these professionals to come back and help develop a new system. Until that happens I fear that Kosovo won’t move an inch forward.

However with Hashim Thaqi at the helm and Rumush right behind him no one in the right mind would dare to come back and challenge them. Personally I could care less whether these two men are sent to Hague, Belgrade or Mars for that matter. They are both criminals and deserve to be in jail. They have become a major obstacle to the economic development of Kosovo. Unfortunately, they have created a large network of criminal enterprises that controls anything and everything in Kosovo. These men have split Kosovo in half. Thaqi and his cronies control Prishtina, Drenica and Llapi region and Ramush controls the entire Dukagjini region. For Kosovo to move ahead first and foremost these two men and their cronies should be arrested and given lengthy sentences for the misappropriation and embezzlement of the Kosovo funds. There is plenty of evidence the question is: Can anyone dare touch the untouchables?

Lastly Agim Ceku is professional soldier who fought in Croatia and Kosovo. He brought discipline and knowledge among KLA ranks. If Serbia has such strong evidence against him, then Serbia should submit the entire evidence to the Hague tribunal the only body officially authorized to deal with war crimes in the former Yugoslavia. I think Serbia is playing a political game. It’s trying to desperately embarrass Kosovo Albanian leaders and so far it has succeeded it with Ceku. However not anyone seriously believes that Serbia could provide a fair trial to Ceku and therefore he will never be transferred to Serbia.

Amer

pre 16 godina

'Although they have no merits at all for the liberation of Kosova(o), we all know it was NATO.'

I wonder who "we all" are - this isn't the way the story goes in the U.S. The Air Force was operating under such restrictive orders (a political decision - to prevent U.S. casualties) that they needed people on the ground to identify targets. (Bombing alone is usually insufficient to win against ground forces, whether the Air Force likes to hear this or not, except against massed forces in open ground.)

The JV had superior camouflage capabilities and it took the KLA to actually put the pressure on, towards the end by forcing the regular army troops out into the open to attack them, where they became vulnerable to air attack.

Without the KLA, Nato would still be there, bombing camouflaged tanks.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

Well, how could a small country put pressure on a bigger one? What Pristhina can do is to find more powerful friends to do so, and in that act of diplomacy, the Albanians are more than effective. To get your own interest, is the only thing what matters. The methods are less interesting as long as your request is granted.
(Berkeley, 25 June 2009 15:32

Berkeley,

Despite your obvious pretence to be an 'observer' in international relations, you simply cannot grasp what is going on in the world or realpolitik.

You see, Ceku like Thaci are puppets of the British-American Imperial project so they will do all they can to protect their protegés, even if that means evading justice.

The sham highlights the political, social, economic and moral bankruptcy of the West. Thaci and his gangster ilk are personal property of Washington, however when the US and EU tires of their puppets they will be tossed aside. Look at what happened to Saddam Hussein.

judas priest

pre 16 godina

Wow!No,make that triple wow!!!American agency Stratfor in essence is threatening serbian population in Kosovo with repression,if,by any minor chance,Ceku is deported to Serbia.If you are really,honestly unbiased,how in the world this statement leaves you untouched?

Kada

pre 16 godina

@ ace (post #12):
I'm Kosovo Albanian myself, but I wouldn't be able to describe the corruption level better myself. I totally admit, that corruption can't be any higher than the one at present. And what is worse, the people leading the country, PM Thaqi being one of them, are absolutely non educated thugs, which are the promoters of the corruption themselves.

Although I share all my sympathy with Ceku, a decent and well educated man, but I would have nothing absolutely nothing against, if Serbia arrested Thaqi for instance. It would just do the job for us, and make Kosova a better place to live.

All those who believe that the corruption level is low in Kosova(o) are either blind or are themselves in one way or the other involved in the corruption. And thanks to very those, we have people as such leading the country to its very own fatal end!

Kada

pre 16 godina

@ (John, 25 June 2009 21:11):

I will save your comment, very nicely compiled! I'm very happy that there are still people such as you who truly understand the problem of Kosova(o), and the real cause behind it. I'm my self doing for the time being my PhD here in Germany, but having Thaqi and Co. down there I will never ever want to go back to contribute, I'm just sick and tired of developments down there. On the same time I feel very much sorry for the innocent population who is suffering a lot.

These guys try to blind people over their contribution to the liberation of Kosova(o), meanwhile they increase their private budget, and every now and then, we hear the ceases, when our politicians are caught in Switzerland with bags of millions in hand. Although they have no merits at all for the liberation of Kosova(o), we all know it was NATO.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

On behalf of the silent majority of Albanians, I beg the international community not to force Ceku's return to Kosova. Until we are released from the rule of organised criminals, we have no hope of building a state in Kosova. Even a Serbian jail would be better than allowing Ceku amongst us once more.
(Uranik, 25 June 2009 17:08)

Very hard to believe in the sincerity of your comment. Taking into consideration what I have heard and read many times in the Swiss media that Thaci and his little snakes have been racketing part of the peacefull Albanians leaving in Switzerland, I want to believe that there are indeed "normal" people and I hope that all will not stay silence for ever but rather stand up for a durable peace! Good luck

Daveo Dinkum

pre 16 godina

Once again politics prevails over law. There is one thing that Serbian people have in their favour...patience. One day justice will come. We stand tall in the face of Western persecution.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

believes that Serbia could provide a fair trial to Ceku and therefore he will never be transferred to Serbia.
(John, 25 June 2009 21:11)

You are right John, the question is not whether Serbia want or could provide a fair trial to any of these thugs but really when Kososo will give itself a decent leadership. At this point of time there is no chance that any of the Albanians leaving outside will come back. After the UDI less than 1% left Switzerland!Why should they go back to a no future place! (their own comments)

GSP

pre 16 godina

Ceku made his own bed & now he must lie in it.

Let's face it, you don't get "accused" of something if there wasn't any evidence to back it up in the first place.

Stand for something or fall for anything. It's your choice.

CCCC

Ataman

pre 16 godina

lecture about international laws, would be certainly very interesting...
(The Swiss, 25 June 2009 23:13)

I was really happy to see two honest Albanian posters yesterday. What a change... Can't the "regulars" follow their example? Because what they write is the strongest anti-Albanian propaganda.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

Without the KLA, Nato would still be there, bombing camouflaged tanks.
(Amer, 26 June 2009 19:06)

You forgot other major factors like the relationship between Yeltsin and 40-proof Stolichnaya vodka. Arguably, that was the deciding factor.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

In the decision to sign the "agreement" at Kumanovo, Yeltsin played a role, agreed.
(Amer, 26 June 2009 21:55)

Much more even before, Kumanovo was merely a last step. It was a "tripple act" with all three actors (Clinton, Yeltsin, Milosevic) having their evil role almost from the begin. Do not forget, Milosevic was known to HATE everything even remotely Russian and Yeltsin just had his knife in Gorbachyov's back.

To some of his excuse - if I would be Yeltsin and my choice would be "Clinton or Milosevic" - I would chose "40-proof Skanderbeu". I am not that much into vodka.