Kosovo celebrates anniversary

Dearest friends, today is a great day, for it is exactly one year from the day that the albanians failed to achieve their so called "independence".

It is apparent that Kosovo is, always has been, and always will be Serbian.
Out of the so called "100" countries who were supposed to recognise Kosovo as independent, 54 have, though of these 54, the countries are quite, for lack of better words, Western Puppets. America, England, and the EU puppets, including the Marshal Islands and Micronesia (American owned).

The students going on their “Walk to Independence.” should take a car, its going to take a couple of thousand years for them to even get anywhere :)


Day after day the albanians try and make the lives of the Serbs hell. Barbed-wire, destroying churches, organ harvesting, explosive devices, destroying cemetaries, and any other cowardly and utterly pathetic act they can come up with. The Serbs are strong, and will always hold out against these attacks.

Kosovo Serbs are heroes
KOSOVO JE SRBIJA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA

It is clear, Kosovo is getting stronger en stronger.

The nationalism of serbs are showing that it was a right decision to be indipendent.

Long live Kosovo and the albanians in the region.

Kosovo celebrating independecnce anniversary en masse.

Freedom is priceless.

Gezuar & ziveli

One year ago some words were murmured and people cheered. Some other words were murmured by leaders of some countries and arms twisted with some more words being murmured.

However, on the ground a border post was burnt and the provincial border was opened giving Serbians full and unrestricted access to Serbian controlled areas of Kosovo. The Albanians believed in an illegal and immoral entity called "Kosova" that has further isolated them and removed any hope whatsoever of joining their beloved European family. In the mean time, the EU is attempting to accelerate Serbia's integration without the Albanians. I wonder why?

One year has passed and a man named Sejdiu has decided to pardon or shorten the sentences of 62 criminals to mark the anniversary of Kosovo’s unilateral dependence declaration. I wonder how many of those criminals burnt churches and were involved in ethnically cleansing half the non-Albanian population?

So one year has passed and not much has really changed. The Albanians hope that Serbia will do the impossible and recognise them but we all know that will never happen. The status quo remains.

So good luck Kosovo Albanians, on your own isolation.

Enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't. It won't because "independent" Kosovo is an artificial creation which contravenes all the fundamentals of international law and justice. Such a creation,relying on massive external financial and military support will inevitably crumble.

Kosovo state is a FRAUD. it is still legally part of Serbia whether they agree or not.

One year, and still not a trace of democracy anywhere.
It's as simple as that.

Enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't. It won't because "independent" Kosovo is an artificial creation which contravenes all the fundamentals of international law and justice. Such a creation,relying on massive external financial and military support will inevitably crumble.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 17 February 2009 11:08)

It looks like this artificial fake state could crumble sooner than we expected if the current economic forecasts are anything to go by.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22007.htm

What happens when the money dries up?

Happy Birthday Kosova!

Congratulations Kosovo, US supports your decision 100%. To a long and prosperous relationship.

fireworks will be provided with kalashinkov from drenica, hashim will then dress up like adem jashari with the half egg on his empty head, and everyone will eventually stick their fingers in their noses

"Congratulations Kosovo, US supports your decision 100%. To a long and prosperous relationship.
(pss, 17 February 2009 13:43) :"

Since when do you speak for all of the US? I and many others in the US do not support this unilateral declaration of independence. Others here don't have the slightest idea what this is about, never heard of it or simply don't care one way or the other. I don't think the US should ever have gotten involved and quite frankly, it seems that Washington is starting to feel the same way and trying to distance themselves. If the ICJ eventually says the declaration was illegal, I fully suspect the US will simply say "We disagree with your decision, but we will accept it and withdraw our recognition in accordance with international law."

What negotiations? There were no negotiations. What we witnessed was a charade. An external diktat of NATO countries imposing a final solution where in the end everybody loses. Commisserations to all.Iseult Henry, Ireland

Happy independence Kosovo! France supports you!

Happy independence day everybody! We have one on Nov 28th (Albania) and another Feb 17th( Kosova)! Twice a year!

So Roberto, seeing you were away can I assume that you have been busy lobbying for the freedom of the Palestinian people since you are so much into freedom? After the mass destruction and violence directed towards these people, children and women included, it is only fitting that you direct your energy towards them.

Rather than speaking of the things that divide us Serbians and Albanians, I wish to speak about something that unites us. You see, both Serbia and Albania are two of 97 states that have recognised the Palestinian state. We are in agreement and although more than half of the world's states have provided recognition or diplomatic ties, it matter little to the several thousand people who were recently killed, women and children included. It matters little to the hundreds of thousands left homeless and the massive destruction caused by Israel. As we can see, recognition is meaningless and you come here to lobby for two Albanian states while those poor Palestinians struggle to have one. Scroll through this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Palestinian_National_Authority

The fact that you mention keeping an eye on the prize means that the prize has not been won and therefore you readily admit that independence has not been achieved. You are correct I must add because we both know the prize in fact already belongs to Serbia and rest assured that we will never relinquish our holy land.

You only need to read UNSC resolution 1244 and you will realise that the prize is already sealed. However, I don't really expect you to respect international law.

Peace to all.

no party is complete without.. well… soup :))
kosovo gazpacho: take ice cubes of frozen conflict, mix them in the red soup of kidnapped and butchered serbs whose organs were harvested, add heroin, bigotry and poverty to taste and serve in the cool shade of one of dozens of christian serbian monasteries and churches albanians burned and desecrated. or if you feel really quirky serve it in the shade of broken and desecrated tombstones that albanians destroyed in serb cemeteries.

Seriously though guys, there never was and there never will be future for such abominations.
kosovo is serbia. we will negotiate broad autonomy with our albanians in our province and will help them out of the blackhole they're in today. we in fact have an obligation to help them.

(Niall O'Doherty, 17 February 2009 13:20)

Thanks for the link, theres no doubt that IF "kosova" existed, it would crumble, even without that much of a fall in the european markets.

and what on earth were the americans thinking? I've been going off my head for the last few months trying to tell people that they cannot boost the economy with spending when all the spending is done on credit. Recession is because of credit, and more credit would only make it worse.

But hey, you know what the albanians say "Money isn't a problem, there isn't any"

From Philadelphia to Kosovo: Happy Independence Day! To all people of Kosovo, Serb, Albanian and all, may you have peace and prosperity for yourselves and your children.

Congratulations Kosova!! Happy Birthday! Next year it will be the second annniversary, than soon the 5th...than 10th. Soon the majority of your young population will not remember the oppression of the nineties.
Remember that the new US administration supports you as strongly as the previous did. You have a lot of strong friends in the world, who can and will protect you. Enjoy your great day!

Serbs have to be coscient and thankful that albanian did not do the same crimes as they did. Remember after Kosovo declared independence a majority of serbs thought that Albanians will wipe out the non Albanian areas. Well if albanians would have acted as Criminel Millosevic that wiped the entire Kosova of people and burned thousands of homes the Mitrovica game would have been over long time ago. Thats whay Croatians did to Krajevo but albanians did not do that to Mitrovica. By the way, game will be over only when albania take albanian part in Kosova and Serbia take her part in Mitrovica.Unfortunately since serbs dont feel trust on albanians and like wise albanians dont feel trust on serbs, the only way of dealing it is new balkan map. All albanians and serbs in one country.

Patrik, my post is based on my feelings along with what the government of the US states. Unfortunate that you are in a minority in the US. I respect your opinion, but basically the govt agrees with me in saying you are wrong.
If you are having any feelings that Washington is changing opinions, it is only in your imagination. You "may" a few of the 535 Senators or Congressmen that may supposrt your position but they are few and far between.

congratulation, people of kosovo/a! keep the faith! much love, more later!

This is a beautiful and happy day for all seeking Freedom, hopefully sometime soon we can have the same type of Historic Celebrations in Vojvodina as well.

Freedom for All !!!

will they still be celebrating that way, when the US stop feeding them?

we will see.

let´s just see what future brings.

"Unfortunate that you are in a minority in the US. I respect your opinion, but basically the govt agrees with me in saying you are wrong."

pss,

Though we are often on opposite ends of the debate, I do respect your input. But I suspect the majority of Americans neither support nor are opposed to Kosovo. The majority of Americans either don't know, nor do they care. The US Goverment is out for itself. There's little emotional sentiment shared between Washington and Pristina.

Today is little more than a day to celebrate the entrenched selective memories to two intractable sides.

A whole year has gone by with the "anniversary of Kosovo's Independence" and while a whole year has gone by, the USA and various countries of Europe still are unaware of the consequences a sleeping Muslim giant that one day will awaken and see the Christian nations around it as unwelcomed foreign adversaries. Look what this Muslim giant already did to the ancient Serbian Christian churches and the Serbian Christian cemeteries in Kosovo.

Happy Anaversiry KOSOVO

sorry but i was so rushed before. i want to send my love and congratulations from the united states west coast. of course it is true that for most people here, independent kosovo/a is not on the front burner, and in such times that is understandable.

but make no mistake -- the great majority of people here support the freedom and independence of kosovo/a, and of each of the successor states of the yu. the notion that serbia is the only successor state is utterly absurb. we support all of the people. and our own struggles for freedom and independence reinforce our support for kosovo/a's independence.

congratualtions again. our opponents have made the struggle as miserable as they posibbly can, and having lost, they have become that much more vengeful and nasty. nevermind, keep looking forward and with our eyes on the prize.

In this time of celebration for Albanians, emotions of happiness are everywhere...but when you get back to the stark reality of the situation, things look grim. Behind the cheers and celebrating, there is an Kosovo the West are far too reluctant to reveal. An Kosovo of poverty, drugs, sex trafficking(just look at the 'Taken' film), and corruption. The future of the Kosovo as a 'pariah state' look probable, with no definite international recognition(entry into UN. The 'independent' state of Kosovo is non-functioning without Western funds, which are looking all the more scarce in these times of financial depression. Kosovo and the Balkans are in Russia's backyard, while they are an distant dream for the US. The future will hold who will retain their interest and influence over the region.

This is a beautiful and happy day for all seeking Freedom, hopefully sometime soon we can have the same type of Historic Celebrations in Vojvodina as well.

Freedom for All !!!
(Freedom, 17 February 2009 18:25)

Happy day for all, but if you (in person) want to join Kosovo, that's up to you, feel free. If you happen to have Hungarian Ethnic document, feel free to come here without any visa. Isten hozta!

But if you want to be independent, it's up to you. You DO NOT HAVE the support of 90% of Hungarians in Hungary, neither of USA or anyone else who matters.

Besides, with all planned tax increases you may see more Hungarians moving FROM Hungary to Romania, Serbia and so on. You do not want to deal with Mr. Lopcsány Fegyenc. Unfortunately, he is the best in the flock, everyone else here is even worse. That's called 'szegénységi bizonyítvány".

"Though we are often on opposite ends of the debate, I do respect your input. But I suspect the majority of Americans neither support nor are opposed to Kosovo. The majority of Americans either don't know, nor do they care. The US Goverment is out for itself. There's little emotional sentiment shared between Washington and Pristina.

Today is little more than a day to celebrate the entrenched selective memories to two intractable sides."

Well stated Mike! Most Americans think Yugoslavia still exists. And politicians, I think everyone here can agree what is important to them......

roberto

Most Americans probably do not even know what Kosovo is, let alone where it is. In my experience with all Americans here, most are very friendly people, but their knowledge on history and geography outside of the USA is next to nothing, and this goes for large, recognized European countries, not little, unrecognized ones, so I don't know who you are trying to fool by saying that almost the whole West coast supports Kosovo.

rugova

Slavs originated in today's Poland/Ukraine. Native tribes of Siberia are extinct Uralic-Altaic peoples who were conquered by Turkic, Mongol, Hunnic and Iranic (as in Scythians, not Persians) nomads and whose possible descendents are the modern Samoyedic people (Ostyaks, Khantys, Selkups and Enets). Slavs only conquered the region in the 17th century. Try an encyclopedia and read up on history before you come here and talk rubbish. Then again, my experience with most Albanians online is that they generally have no clue about European history, yet they claim to be the oldest European tribe. BTW it is spelt SIBERIA, not Sibiria. Try a dictionary.

Freedom

Serbia is a European country who has always stood on the side of good (against Ottomans, Nazis etc.) who has contributed much in the world of arts, science and sports. Stop advocating further landgrabs against them, they do not deserve it. They have paid the price for Milosevic and that is now more than enough.

Congratulations Kosovo. I hope you will grow up to be a responsible and respected state and eventually (in your early teens?) be able to join the EU.
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albanians have lived in kosova and the now what is called serbia since 4000 B.C. Albanians are one of the most indigenous people of Europe and today's Serbs are nothing more than ethnic Slavs from Sibiria who moved into the Albanian region around 600 A.D. The Albanians have fought them ever since and have lost their territory who they've occupied to them what is called today Serbia. The Serbs should be grateful that they've taken that territory from Albanians, but Kosova is 99% Albanian occupied and those 99% will never again let themselves be ruled from any other ethnic group but themselves. I think after the Serbs lost the war in 1999, I would have suported dismanteling Serbia even further and give Vojvodina to the Hungarians and south Serbia to the Albanians but I guess that was too complicated to do.

the great majority of people here support the freedom and independence of kosovo/a, and of each of the successor states of the yu.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

C'mon. Completely wrong. Only yesterday I spoke with my colleague who lives in Union City, CA. She is not American by birth - but she did not even know, there was a civil war in 90-s in YU.

You know the population/ethnic structure of the Silicon Valley pretty well. People don't give a rat's behind to Serbia, Albania, Kosovo. They maybe know where is Greece (vacation), maybe some few do know about Dalmatian coast (and maybe they are surprised, it's not Italy).

But they know pretty well about Pacific Rim and India. No surprise.

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the notion that serbia is the only successor state is utterly absurb.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

That's the legal situation. But since you cannot answer the simple question "who are the Serbs", this is even more absurd. Before saying anything, please at least try to answer that.

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we support all of the people.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

Not true. Except - in your words and maybe deeds - the ones you call "Serbs" - but cannot define, who these evil Serbs are. LOL.

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our opponents have made the struggle as miserable as they posibbly can, and having lost, they have become that much more vengeful and nasty.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

If they lost, than why not ignore them and just move over? Instead, I see your postings are still full of emotion. Neither you or I can say who did lose the struggle. Please look at the history. Rome always did keep a legion in the area to "pacify" the unruly mountaineers. So did Byzantine Empire, Bulgarian Tsars, Serbian Kings and Grand-Dukes, Ottomans... The struggle in the mountains is few thousand years old, with it's "ups" and "downs".

Ultimately, it will be over pretty peaceful way with civilization taking over the mountaineers (in better form, than Bill Clinton Boulevard or Coca Cola). Will be few more decades. But it is not you or me who will declare the winners.

Yes, I can see that everyone almost in this site wishes the worst for Kosovo based on your comments. Well, it is your right to express yourselves as you wish although at times it seems laughable, especially the ones who think Kosovo is not yet independent. What is the definition of independence for some of you? As I understand, Albanians wanted independence from Serbia, and that is fully achieved. I mean there are no Serbian troops in Kosovo; Serbian government has no saying in anything. Kosovo it has its own security forces, its own police, and hundreds of institutions that make a state. It’s true that Kosovo hasn’t yet been recognised by a multitude of nations, but nr. 54 is not that bad especially when you are recognised by the most powerful countries in the world. If Taiwan has survived for over 60 years with recognition of less than fewer states, so will Kosovo. Serbia can best protect their Serbian minority in Kosovo by investing massively in their communities, but passing hundreds of laws indicating Kosovo is part of Serbia, those laws just matter no more outside Serbia. At least Albanians and those who recognized them simply don’t care. I am in now way going against Serbia with this comment, Serbia is a wonderful country with magnificent history and culture, but the rights of self-determination belong to every nation in the world and probably including Serbian Minority in Kosovo. But for that you need smart negociations, which would lead to permanent settlement of Serbs in Kosovo and Albanian minority in south of Serbia.

Peter,
A few weeks ago you reminded me not to take "roberto' aka "from frisco' to seriously, now it is my turn to support and remind you of the same.

I agree with you, unfortunately, that many Americans have a limited knowledge of world history and geography.
Many of my friends could not tell you what states border the very state they live nor could they identify many individual states on a US map.

Congratulations to Kosovar people.

Serbs are nothing more than ethnic Slavs from Sibiria who moved into the Albanian region around 600 A.D.
(rugova, 18 February 2009 09:33)

With this kind of educational background, no wonder, Kosovo is behind the entire ex-YU.

1) Siberia had no Slavic population till Ermak's campaigns in 16th Century.
2) Serbs are from Eastern part of Germany, more precisely from the area of Bautzen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbs

There are still Serbs living there, they are called "Sorbs".

1) + 2) is pretty well-known.

What is disputed - but very likely, that "Siberia" indeed has somewhat to do with Serbia - INDIRECTLY.

The Slavic population in Bautzen area took the name of their Hunnic/Iranian overlords from SUBARTU, also called "Sabirs". The tribe of "Megyer" (which gave the name of a certain country in Europe!) is also RUMORED to be from Subartu. Subartu was roughly where the city of Baku is today (Azerbaijan). The wast area BEHIND Subartu was called "Sabiria". This is only one of the theories and not even accepted in the mainstream there are others (= Serbs, Hungarians who do not like it, please don't be to harsh on me). IMO, Sabirs either as "Megyer" or some in Bautzen area make sense, but maybe not. There was a lot of things like lapis-lazuri trade routes and who was in monopole situation of these, etc. Many things not sure and much is hijacked by (Hungarian) ultra-nationalists. But maybe Sabirs + Subartu was in part the common origin. Maybe not. It is just merely a curiosity and should have no effect.

But no offense - if someone writes what #34 wrote, probably it is time for an urgent crash course in basic history.

Slavs in Siberia... OMG, this is one of the best jokes. Tough to write anything non-offensive on that.


Otherwise an other proof not just of very poor education, but how dangerous that Albanian nationalism is. A while ago there WAS a "Pan-Slavic" movement - but no one ever dared, not even Russia to claim the inheritance of ALL Slavic tribes.

And here comes a tiny Albania - and voila, some of them claim inheritance from all Illyrian, Thracian, Dacian, Celtic, Hellenic and probably some Pontian tribes which did live in the area. Maybe the entire Galaxy was Albanian, too? What a pure nonsense.

As far as the movie Taken is concerned, I have watched it and I must say I liked it a lot. But, having in mind that movies are movies: see "Star Gate" or any other fictional or even action or whatever movie you want, made by Hollywood, don't tell me you believe in all what they say, cz if you do, than I feel really bad for you, seriously :S. It's fiction, and as stories seem to get consumed, they have to make up something new, that has never before been used! This is Hollywood man.

Finally, I congrat all the Albanians and pro-Albanians around the world in this second anniversary of Kosova's Independence!

Greets from Prishtina!

(I hope b92 will publish this)

If Serbs ever got Kosova back through the International Criminal Court or whatever... What would Serbia do with it? Do Serbs honestly think that they could possibly control Kosova??? WAKE UP!!! Kosova is independant. Serbs are hypocritical when every year the Serb president visits so-called Republika Srpska on its anniversary date to celebrate is declaration in 1992.

It is clear, Kosovo is getting stronger en stronger.

The nationalism of serbs are showing that it was a right decision to be indipendent.

Long live Kosovo and the albanians in the region.

Kosovo celebrating independecnce anniversary en masse.

Freedom is priceless.

Gezuar & ziveli

Dearest friends, today is a great day, for it is exactly one year from the day that the albanians failed to achieve their so called "independence".

It is apparent that Kosovo is, always has been, and always will be Serbian.
Out of the so called "100" countries who were supposed to recognise Kosovo as independent, 54 have, though of these 54, the countries are quite, for lack of better words, Western Puppets. America, England, and the EU puppets, including the Marshal Islands and Micronesia (American owned).

The students going on their “Walk to Independence.” should take a car, its going to take a couple of thousand years for them to even get anywhere :)


Day after day the albanians try and make the lives of the Serbs hell. Barbed-wire, destroying churches, organ harvesting, explosive devices, destroying cemetaries, and any other cowardly and utterly pathetic act they can come up with. The Serbs are strong, and will always hold out against these attacks.

Kosovo Serbs are heroes
KOSOVO JE SRBIJA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA

Congratulations Kosovo, US supports your decision 100%. To a long and prosperous relationship.

Kosovo state is a FRAUD. it is still legally part of Serbia whether they agree or not.

Happy independence Kosovo! France supports you!

One year ago some words were murmured and people cheered. Some other words were murmured by leaders of some countries and arms twisted with some more words being murmured.

However, on the ground a border post was burnt and the provincial border was opened giving Serbians full and unrestricted access to Serbian controlled areas of Kosovo. The Albanians believed in an illegal and immoral entity called "Kosova" that has further isolated them and removed any hope whatsoever of joining their beloved European family. In the mean time, the EU is attempting to accelerate Serbia's integration without the Albanians. I wonder why?

One year has passed and a man named Sejdiu has decided to pardon or shorten the sentences of 62 criminals to mark the anniversary of Kosovo’s unilateral dependence declaration. I wonder how many of those criminals burnt churches and were involved in ethnically cleansing half the non-Albanian population?

So one year has passed and not much has really changed. The Albanians hope that Serbia will do the impossible and recognise them but we all know that will never happen. The status quo remains.

So good luck Kosovo Albanians, on your own isolation.

Happy Birthday Kosova!

Enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't. It won't because "independent" Kosovo is an artificial creation which contravenes all the fundamentals of international law and justice. Such a creation,relying on massive external financial and military support will inevitably crumble.

Happy independence day everybody! We have one on Nov 28th (Albania) and another Feb 17th( Kosova)! Twice a year!

Serbs have to be coscient and thankful that albanian did not do the same crimes as they did. Remember after Kosovo declared independence a majority of serbs thought that Albanians will wipe out the non Albanian areas. Well if albanians would have acted as Criminel Millosevic that wiped the entire Kosova of people and burned thousands of homes the Mitrovica game would have been over long time ago. Thats whay Croatians did to Krajevo but albanians did not do that to Mitrovica. By the way, game will be over only when albania take albanian part in Kosova and Serbia take her part in Mitrovica.Unfortunately since serbs dont feel trust on albanians and like wise albanians dont feel trust on serbs, the only way of dealing it is new balkan map. All albanians and serbs in one country.

One year, and still not a trace of democracy anywhere.
It's as simple as that.

fireworks will be provided with kalashinkov from drenica, hashim will then dress up like adem jashari with the half egg on his empty head, and everyone will eventually stick their fingers in their noses

This is a beautiful and happy day for all seeking Freedom, hopefully sometime soon we can have the same type of Historic Celebrations in Vojvodina as well.

Freedom for All !!!

Congratulations Kosova!! Happy Birthday! Next year it will be the second annniversary, than soon the 5th...than 10th. Soon the majority of your young population will not remember the oppression of the nineties.
Remember that the new US administration supports you as strongly as the previous did. You have a lot of strong friends in the world, who can and will protect you. Enjoy your great day!

congratulation, people of kosovo/a! keep the faith! much love, more later!

Enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't. It won't because "independent" Kosovo is an artificial creation which contravenes all the fundamentals of international law and justice. Such a creation,relying on massive external financial and military support will inevitably crumble.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 17 February 2009 11:08)

It looks like this artificial fake state could crumble sooner than we expected if the current economic forecasts are anything to go by.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22007.htm

What happens when the money dries up?

sorry but i was so rushed before. i want to send my love and congratulations from the united states west coast. of course it is true that for most people here, independent kosovo/a is not on the front burner, and in such times that is understandable.

but make no mistake -- the great majority of people here support the freedom and independence of kosovo/a, and of each of the successor states of the yu. the notion that serbia is the only successor state is utterly absurb. we support all of the people. and our own struggles for freedom and independence reinforce our support for kosovo/a's independence.

congratualtions again. our opponents have made the struggle as miserable as they posibbly can, and having lost, they have become that much more vengeful and nasty. nevermind, keep looking forward and with our eyes on the prize.

Happy Anaversiry KOSOVO

What negotiations? There were no negotiations. What we witnessed was a charade. An external diktat of NATO countries imposing a final solution where in the end everybody loses. Commisserations to all.Iseult Henry, Ireland

Patrik, my post is based on my feelings along with what the government of the US states. Unfortunate that you are in a minority in the US. I respect your opinion, but basically the govt agrees with me in saying you are wrong.
If you are having any feelings that Washington is changing opinions, it is only in your imagination. You "may" a few of the 535 Senators or Congressmen that may supposrt your position but they are few and far between.

"Congratulations Kosovo, US supports your decision 100%. To a long and prosperous relationship.
(pss, 17 February 2009 13:43) :"

Since when do you speak for all of the US? I and many others in the US do not support this unilateral declaration of independence. Others here don't have the slightest idea what this is about, never heard of it or simply don't care one way or the other. I don't think the US should ever have gotten involved and quite frankly, it seems that Washington is starting to feel the same way and trying to distance themselves. If the ICJ eventually says the declaration was illegal, I fully suspect the US will simply say "We disagree with your decision, but we will accept it and withdraw our recognition in accordance with international law."

From Philadelphia to Kosovo: Happy Independence Day! To all people of Kosovo, Serb, Albanian and all, may you have peace and prosperity for yourselves and your children.

no party is complete without.. well… soup :))
kosovo gazpacho: take ice cubes of frozen conflict, mix them in the red soup of kidnapped and butchered serbs whose organs were harvested, add heroin, bigotry and poverty to taste and serve in the cool shade of one of dozens of christian serbian monasteries and churches albanians burned and desecrated. or if you feel really quirky serve it in the shade of broken and desecrated tombstones that albanians destroyed in serb cemeteries.

Seriously though guys, there never was and there never will be future for such abominations.
kosovo is serbia. we will negotiate broad autonomy with our albanians in our province and will help them out of the blackhole they're in today. we in fact have an obligation to help them.

(Niall O'Doherty, 17 February 2009 13:20)

Thanks for the link, theres no doubt that IF "kosova" existed, it would crumble, even without that much of a fall in the european markets.

and what on earth were the americans thinking? I've been going off my head for the last few months trying to tell people that they cannot boost the economy with spending when all the spending is done on credit. Recession is because of credit, and more credit would only make it worse.

But hey, you know what the albanians say "Money isn't a problem, there isn't any"

"Unfortunate that you are in a minority in the US. I respect your opinion, but basically the govt agrees with me in saying you are wrong."

pss,

Though we are often on opposite ends of the debate, I do respect your input. But I suspect the majority of Americans neither support nor are opposed to Kosovo. The majority of Americans either don't know, nor do they care. The US Goverment is out for itself. There's little emotional sentiment shared between Washington and Pristina.

Today is little more than a day to celebrate the entrenched selective memories to two intractable sides.

will they still be celebrating that way, when the US stop feeding them?

we will see.

let´s just see what future brings.

So Roberto, seeing you were away can I assume that you have been busy lobbying for the freedom of the Palestinian people since you are so much into freedom? After the mass destruction and violence directed towards these people, children and women included, it is only fitting that you direct your energy towards them.

Rather than speaking of the things that divide us Serbians and Albanians, I wish to speak about something that unites us. You see, both Serbia and Albania are two of 97 states that have recognised the Palestinian state. We are in agreement and although more than half of the world's states have provided recognition or diplomatic ties, it matter little to the several thousand people who were recently killed, women and children included. It matters little to the hundreds of thousands left homeless and the massive destruction caused by Israel. As we can see, recognition is meaningless and you come here to lobby for two Albanian states while those poor Palestinians struggle to have one. Scroll through this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Palestinian_National_Authority

The fact that you mention keeping an eye on the prize means that the prize has not been won and therefore you readily admit that independence has not been achieved. You are correct I must add because we both know the prize in fact already belongs to Serbia and rest assured that we will never relinquish our holy land.

You only need to read UNSC resolution 1244 and you will realise that the prize is already sealed. However, I don't really expect you to respect international law.

Peace to all.

A whole year has gone by with the "anniversary of Kosovo's Independence" and while a whole year has gone by, the USA and various countries of Europe still are unaware of the consequences a sleeping Muslim giant that one day will awaken and see the Christian nations around it as unwelcomed foreign adversaries. Look what this Muslim giant already did to the ancient Serbian Christian churches and the Serbian Christian cemeteries in Kosovo.

albanians have lived in kosova and the now what is called serbia since 4000 B.C. Albanians are one of the most indigenous people of Europe and today's Serbs are nothing more than ethnic Slavs from Sibiria who moved into the Albanian region around 600 A.D. The Albanians have fought them ever since and have lost their territory who they've occupied to them what is called today Serbia. The Serbs should be grateful that they've taken that territory from Albanians, but Kosova is 99% Albanian occupied and those 99% will never again let themselves be ruled from any other ethnic group but themselves. I think after the Serbs lost the war in 1999, I would have suported dismanteling Serbia even further and give Vojvodina to the Hungarians and south Serbia to the Albanians but I guess that was too complicated to do.

In this time of celebration for Albanians, emotions of happiness are everywhere...but when you get back to the stark reality of the situation, things look grim. Behind the cheers and celebrating, there is an Kosovo the West are far too reluctant to reveal. An Kosovo of poverty, drugs, sex trafficking(just look at the 'Taken' film), and corruption. The future of the Kosovo as a 'pariah state' look probable, with no definite international recognition(entry into UN. The 'independent' state of Kosovo is non-functioning without Western funds, which are looking all the more scarce in these times of financial depression. Kosovo and the Balkans are in Russia's backyard, while they are an distant dream for the US. The future will hold who will retain their interest and influence over the region.

This is a beautiful and happy day for all seeking Freedom, hopefully sometime soon we can have the same type of Historic Celebrations in Vojvodina as well.

Freedom for All !!!
(Freedom, 17 February 2009 18:25)

Happy day for all, but if you (in person) want to join Kosovo, that's up to you, feel free. If you happen to have Hungarian Ethnic document, feel free to come here without any visa. Isten hozta!

But if you want to be independent, it's up to you. You DO NOT HAVE the support of 90% of Hungarians in Hungary, neither of USA or anyone else who matters.

Besides, with all planned tax increases you may see more Hungarians moving FROM Hungary to Romania, Serbia and so on. You do not want to deal with Mr. Lopcsány Fegyenc. Unfortunately, he is the best in the flock, everyone else here is even worse. That's called 'szegénységi bizonyítvány".

"Though we are often on opposite ends of the debate, I do respect your input. But I suspect the majority of Americans neither support nor are opposed to Kosovo. The majority of Americans either don't know, nor do they care. The US Goverment is out for itself. There's little emotional sentiment shared between Washington and Pristina.

Today is little more than a day to celebrate the entrenched selective memories to two intractable sides."

Well stated Mike! Most Americans think Yugoslavia still exists. And politicians, I think everyone here can agree what is important to them......

Congratulations to Kosovar people.

Yes, I can see that everyone almost in this site wishes the worst for Kosovo based on your comments. Well, it is your right to express yourselves as you wish although at times it seems laughable, especially the ones who think Kosovo is not yet independent. What is the definition of independence for some of you? As I understand, Albanians wanted independence from Serbia, and that is fully achieved. I mean there are no Serbian troops in Kosovo; Serbian government has no saying in anything. Kosovo it has its own security forces, its own police, and hundreds of institutions that make a state. It’s true that Kosovo hasn’t yet been recognised by a multitude of nations, but nr. 54 is not that bad especially when you are recognised by the most powerful countries in the world. If Taiwan has survived for over 60 years with recognition of less than fewer states, so will Kosovo. Serbia can best protect their Serbian minority in Kosovo by investing massively in their communities, but passing hundreds of laws indicating Kosovo is part of Serbia, those laws just matter no more outside Serbia. At least Albanians and those who recognized them simply don’t care. I am in now way going against Serbia with this comment, Serbia is a wonderful country with magnificent history and culture, but the rights of self-determination belong to every nation in the world and probably including Serbian Minority in Kosovo. But for that you need smart negociations, which would lead to permanent settlement of Serbs in Kosovo and Albanian minority in south of Serbia.

roberto

Most Americans probably do not even know what Kosovo is, let alone where it is. In my experience with all Americans here, most are very friendly people, but their knowledge on history and geography outside of the USA is next to nothing, and this goes for large, recognized European countries, not little, unrecognized ones, so I don't know who you are trying to fool by saying that almost the whole West coast supports Kosovo.

rugova

Slavs originated in today's Poland/Ukraine. Native tribes of Siberia are extinct Uralic-Altaic peoples who were conquered by Turkic, Mongol, Hunnic and Iranic (as in Scythians, not Persians) nomads and whose possible descendents are the modern Samoyedic people (Ostyaks, Khantys, Selkups and Enets). Slavs only conquered the region in the 17th century. Try an encyclopedia and read up on history before you come here and talk rubbish. Then again, my experience with most Albanians online is that they generally have no clue about European history, yet they claim to be the oldest European tribe. BTW it is spelt SIBERIA, not Sibiria. Try a dictionary.

Freedom

Serbia is a European country who has always stood on the side of good (against Ottomans, Nazis etc.) who has contributed much in the world of arts, science and sports. Stop advocating further landgrabs against them, they do not deserve it. They have paid the price for Milosevic and that is now more than enough.

Serbs are nothing more than ethnic Slavs from Sibiria who moved into the Albanian region around 600 A.D.
(rugova, 18 February 2009 09:33)

With this kind of educational background, no wonder, Kosovo is behind the entire ex-YU.

1) Siberia had no Slavic population till Ermak's campaigns in 16th Century.
2) Serbs are from Eastern part of Germany, more precisely from the area of Bautzen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbs

There are still Serbs living there, they are called "Sorbs".

1) + 2) is pretty well-known.

What is disputed - but very likely, that "Siberia" indeed has somewhat to do with Serbia - INDIRECTLY.

The Slavic population in Bautzen area took the name of their Hunnic/Iranian overlords from SUBARTU, also called "Sabirs". The tribe of "Megyer" (which gave the name of a certain country in Europe!) is also RUMORED to be from Subartu. Subartu was roughly where the city of Baku is today (Azerbaijan). The wast area BEHIND Subartu was called "Sabiria". This is only one of the theories and not even accepted in the mainstream there are others (= Serbs, Hungarians who do not like it, please don't be to harsh on me). IMO, Sabirs either as "Megyer" or some in Bautzen area make sense, but maybe not. There was a lot of things like lapis-lazuri trade routes and who was in monopole situation of these, etc. Many things not sure and much is hijacked by (Hungarian) ultra-nationalists. But maybe Sabirs + Subartu was in part the common origin. Maybe not. It is just merely a curiosity and should have no effect.

But no offense - if someone writes what #34 wrote, probably it is time for an urgent crash course in basic history.

Slavs in Siberia... OMG, this is one of the best jokes. Tough to write anything non-offensive on that.


Otherwise an other proof not just of very poor education, but how dangerous that Albanian nationalism is. A while ago there WAS a "Pan-Slavic" movement - but no one ever dared, not even Russia to claim the inheritance of ALL Slavic tribes.

And here comes a tiny Albania - and voila, some of them claim inheritance from all Illyrian, Thracian, Dacian, Celtic, Hellenic and probably some Pontian tribes which did live in the area. Maybe the entire Galaxy was Albanian, too? What a pure nonsense.

the great majority of people here support the freedom and independence of kosovo/a, and of each of the successor states of the yu.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

C'mon. Completely wrong. Only yesterday I spoke with my colleague who lives in Union City, CA. She is not American by birth - but she did not even know, there was a civil war in 90-s in YU.

You know the population/ethnic structure of the Silicon Valley pretty well. People don't give a rat's behind to Serbia, Albania, Kosovo. They maybe know where is Greece (vacation), maybe some few do know about Dalmatian coast (and maybe they are surprised, it's not Italy).

But they know pretty well about Pacific Rim and India. No surprise.

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the notion that serbia is the only successor state is utterly absurb.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

That's the legal situation. But since you cannot answer the simple question "who are the Serbs", this is even more absurd. Before saying anything, please at least try to answer that.

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we support all of the people.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

Not true. Except - in your words and maybe deeds - the ones you call "Serbs" - but cannot define, who these evil Serbs are. LOL.

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our opponents have made the struggle as miserable as they posibbly can, and having lost, they have become that much more vengeful and nasty.
(roberto, 17 February 2009 21:19)

If they lost, than why not ignore them and just move over? Instead, I see your postings are still full of emotion. Neither you or I can say who did lose the struggle. Please look at the history. Rome always did keep a legion in the area to "pacify" the unruly mountaineers. So did Byzantine Empire, Bulgarian Tsars, Serbian Kings and Grand-Dukes, Ottomans... The struggle in the mountains is few thousand years old, with it's "ups" and "downs".

Ultimately, it will be over pretty peaceful way with civilization taking over the mountaineers (in better form, than Bill Clinton Boulevard or Coca Cola). Will be few more decades. But it is not you or me who will declare the winners.

Congratulations Kosovo. I hope you will grow up to be a responsible and respected state and eventually (in your early teens?) be able to join the EU.
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Peter,
A few weeks ago you reminded me not to take "roberto' aka "from frisco' to seriously, now it is my turn to support and remind you of the same.

I agree with you, unfortunately, that many Americans have a limited knowledge of world history and geography.
Many of my friends could not tell you what states border the very state they live nor could they identify many individual states on a US map.

As far as the movie Taken is concerned, I have watched it and I must say I liked it a lot. But, having in mind that movies are movies: see "Star Gate" or any other fictional or even action or whatever movie you want, made by Hollywood, don't tell me you believe in all what they say, cz if you do, than I feel really bad for you, seriously :S. It's fiction, and as stories seem to get consumed, they have to make up something new, that has never before been used! This is Hollywood man.

Finally, I congrat all the Albanians and pro-Albanians around the world in this second anniversary of Kosova's Independence!

Greets from Prishtina!

(I hope b92 will publish this)

If Serbs ever got Kosova back through the International Criminal Court or whatever... What would Serbia do with it? Do Serbs honestly think that they could possibly control Kosova??? WAKE UP!!! Kosova is independant. Serbs are hypocritical when every year the Serb president visits so-called Republika Srpska on its anniversary date to celebrate is declaration in 1992.