EULEX facing mixed welcome

"Serbs in northern Kosovo say that a certain amount of time is needed to see for themselves that EULEX representatives are acting neutral vis-à-vis the province’s status."

Exactly. It seems very suspicious that the mission is to be deployed in Northern Kosovo on the very first day.

Pritina may wish for EULEX to be based on the A Plan and the provincial constitution, but it isn't.

It comes under Resolution 1244 and has to abide by the 6 points agreed.

What is required is a lot more reassurance from EULEX, the EU and UN that all players intend to stick to the agreed rules.

EULEX and the EU are not distancing themselves enough from the comments coming from Pristina. I understand that they don't wish to 'upset anyone', but the basis of EULEX, its neutral status, disconnection from the A Plan, and adherence to 1244, all have to be reaffirmed and publicy clarified.

Kosovo is still legally Serbian territory, and Nato is under a UN mandate. The international community knows this full well.

We'll see how much success EULEX will have in solving murders of Serbs and other non Albanians.

While they are at it they can look into human organ harvesting too. I don't think they will get any cooperation from the Albanians.

Only when these murders are being solved can EULEX expect Serbs to start trusting them.

I wonder if Serbs will get some protection now that there is a possibility of arrests and imprisonment of the guilty Albanians.

They should start with Thaci and keep going down the list.

I know, I'm only day dreaming here. But Christmas is coming and miracles might happen.

They should start with Thaci and keep going down the list.

I know, I'm only day dreaming here. But Christmas is coming and miracles might happen.
(Peggy, 8 December 2008 13:05)
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I think they better start building some very large prisons first otherwise where will they fit all of those criminals?

The international community knows this full well.
(kate, 8 December 2008 13:05)

You know, kate, what is really suspicious, or let me use another word, strange? The fact that EULEX is executed by an organization, the EU, which overwhelmingly recognizes Kosovo's independence, whereas deplyong their policemen, judges and other bureaucrats throughout Kosovo, backed by an agreement which directly not condemns this step. In the contrary, it gives the legal ground to continue their policy. Of course, Jeremic and the rest of the political class of Serbia tries to diverge from this fact, mainly by similar words you have used as well. But the truth is that this is a sole interpretation of political processes which the British negotiator described as different then the Serbian government wants them to see.

Giving the EU the legal base to conduct their policy by simultaneously recognizing Kosovo is not what I would call status neutral at all. Other countries simply cease diplomatic contacts with foreign countries when they don't recognize their borders, like Georgia or China. But Serbia continue to makes deals. What does this tell us? Everybody can answer this question by themselves.

Call it what you want, quote what you want. This mission is far from status neutral. For the character of a status neutral mission, you need status neutral countries, and not the biggest supporters of Kosovo's independence which undoubtly are in the middle of it.

Alban,

1244 is still valid. The UN is in control. Not the EU. The EU will work for the UN!

Please forget Kosovo independence and start rebuilding your country (Serbia).

UN fully trusted EULEX so unless the UNSC complains you have no right to complain. If you have problems, complain to UN and convince the 5 UNSC that what EULEX is doing is bad. There is no mandatory thing EULEX must do, it's up to EULEX, the 6-points are suggestions.

Alban, six points are NOT a suggestion. They are LAW because they were what everyone signed off on.

Only you would turn a law into a mere suggestion. Let's how you you get away with breaking this "suggestion".

"Exactly. It seems very suspicious that the mission is to be deployed in Northern Kosovo on the very first day".

kate

Really? How on earth?! After the UNSC unanimously decided that it has to deploy throughout the WHOLE Kosova and Serbia accepted it?!?!

Kate and Peggy,

Do your really believe that EULEX can work with its status "neutral"? Please don't be naive. Most of the countries participating in the mission have recognised Kosova's independence. That is one point. Secondly you keep on mentioning Resolution 1244. I have said in the past although that resolution is totally out of date doesn't mention Serbia at all but Yugoslavia and it is mentioned only in preamble which hasn't got any legal power. One more thing Resolution is not a Bible. Serbia has manipulated a lot with Russia's veto..... You know that big time!
Peggy,
The story of "transplants of human bodies" from Carla del Ponte looks like Agath Christie's film...."

To cut it short the story. Serbia must recognise Kosova as independent country.

"Kate and Peggy,

Do your really believe that EULEX can work with its status "neutral"? Please don't be naive. Most of the countries participating in the mission have recognised Kosova's independence. That is one point. Secondly you keep on mentioning Resolution 1244. I have said in the past although that resolution is totally out of date doesn't mention Serbia at all but Yugoslavia and it is mentioned only in preamble which hasn't got any legal power. One more thing Resolution is not a Bible. Serbia has manipulated a lot with Russia's veto..... You know that big time!
Peggy,
The story of "transplants of human bodies" from Carla del Ponte looks like Agath Christie's film...."

To cut it short the story. Serbia must recognise Kosova as independent country.
(EA, 8 December 2008 23:15)"

EA

You are the one who is naive. Please don't flatter Pristina unnecessarily. To "cut it short" as you state, the plain truth is that Kosovo isn't that important for the EU to risk its reputation by going back on its word that it has given the UNSC about status neutrality. EU has agreed for Eulex to be status neutral and Ban's 6-points were approved by the entire UNSC, which I must add, included EU members like France and UK, and of course your overlord the US.

1244 is still valid and mentioned by Eulex itself. And as you are ignorant about Serbia being recognized by both UN and EU as the legal successor to 1999's Yugoslavia following Montegro's independence in 2006, may I suggest you search the archives of CNN or BBC. Better still write to the UN or EU to verify this. You really ought to be more informed about the basics before you comment.

The Serbs have been blinded by International community, since there is no six points plan on the deployment of EULEX since they (USA and BRUSSELS) have planned to withdrawn the UN police from Kosovo no later than January 2009.
Once again the UNSCR 1244 has been violated, raped by US and its affiliates.

We'll see how much success EULEX will have in solving murders of Serbs and other non Albanians.

While they are at it they can look into human organ harvesting too. I don't think they will get any cooperation from the Albanians.

Only when these murders are being solved can EULEX expect Serbs to start trusting them.

I wonder if Serbs will get some protection now that there is a possibility of arrests and imprisonment of the guilty Albanians.

They should start with Thaci and keep going down the list.

I know, I'm only day dreaming here. But Christmas is coming and miracles might happen.

"Serbs in northern Kosovo say that a certain amount of time is needed to see for themselves that EULEX representatives are acting neutral vis-à-vis the province’s status."

Exactly. It seems very suspicious that the mission is to be deployed in Northern Kosovo on the very first day.

Pritina may wish for EULEX to be based on the A Plan and the provincial constitution, but it isn't.

It comes under Resolution 1244 and has to abide by the 6 points agreed.

What is required is a lot more reassurance from EULEX, the EU and UN that all players intend to stick to the agreed rules.

EULEX and the EU are not distancing themselves enough from the comments coming from Pristina. I understand that they don't wish to 'upset anyone', but the basis of EULEX, its neutral status, disconnection from the A Plan, and adherence to 1244, all have to be reaffirmed and publicy clarified.

Kosovo is still legally Serbian territory, and Nato is under a UN mandate. The international community knows this full well.

They should start with Thaci and keep going down the list.

I know, I'm only day dreaming here. But Christmas is coming and miracles might happen.
(Peggy, 8 December 2008 13:05)
--
I think they better start building some very large prisons first otherwise where will they fit all of those criminals?

"Exactly. It seems very suspicious that the mission is to be deployed in Northern Kosovo on the very first day".

kate

Really? How on earth?! After the UNSC unanimously decided that it has to deploy throughout the WHOLE Kosova and Serbia accepted it?!?!

UN fully trusted EULEX so unless the UNSC complains you have no right to complain. If you have problems, complain to UN and convince the 5 UNSC that what EULEX is doing is bad. There is no mandatory thing EULEX must do, it's up to EULEX, the 6-points are suggestions.

Kate and Peggy,

Do your really believe that EULEX can work with its status "neutral"? Please don't be naive. Most of the countries participating in the mission have recognised Kosova's independence. That is one point. Secondly you keep on mentioning Resolution 1244. I have said in the past although that resolution is totally out of date doesn't mention Serbia at all but Yugoslavia and it is mentioned only in preamble which hasn't got any legal power. One more thing Resolution is not a Bible. Serbia has manipulated a lot with Russia's veto..... You know that big time!
Peggy,
The story of "transplants of human bodies" from Carla del Ponte looks like Agath Christie's film...."

To cut it short the story. Serbia must recognise Kosova as independent country.

Alban,

1244 is still valid. The UN is in control. Not the EU. The EU will work for the UN!

Please forget Kosovo independence and start rebuilding your country (Serbia).

The international community knows this full well.
(kate, 8 December 2008 13:05)

You know, kate, what is really suspicious, or let me use another word, strange? The fact that EULEX is executed by an organization, the EU, which overwhelmingly recognizes Kosovo's independence, whereas deplyong their policemen, judges and other bureaucrats throughout Kosovo, backed by an agreement which directly not condemns this step. In the contrary, it gives the legal ground to continue their policy. Of course, Jeremic and the rest of the political class of Serbia tries to diverge from this fact, mainly by similar words you have used as well. But the truth is that this is a sole interpretation of political processes which the British negotiator described as different then the Serbian government wants them to see.

Giving the EU the legal base to conduct their policy by simultaneously recognizing Kosovo is not what I would call status neutral at all. Other countries simply cease diplomatic contacts with foreign countries when they don't recognize their borders, like Georgia or China. But Serbia continue to makes deals. What does this tell us? Everybody can answer this question by themselves.

Call it what you want, quote what you want. This mission is far from status neutral. For the character of a status neutral mission, you need status neutral countries, and not the biggest supporters of Kosovo's independence which undoubtly are in the middle of it.

Alban, six points are NOT a suggestion. They are LAW because they were what everyone signed off on.

Only you would turn a law into a mere suggestion. Let's how you you get away with breaking this "suggestion".

"Kate and Peggy,

Do your really believe that EULEX can work with its status "neutral"? Please don't be naive. Most of the countries participating in the mission have recognised Kosova's independence. That is one point. Secondly you keep on mentioning Resolution 1244. I have said in the past although that resolution is totally out of date doesn't mention Serbia at all but Yugoslavia and it is mentioned only in preamble which hasn't got any legal power. One more thing Resolution is not a Bible. Serbia has manipulated a lot with Russia's veto..... You know that big time!
Peggy,
The story of "transplants of human bodies" from Carla del Ponte looks like Agath Christie's film...."

To cut it short the story. Serbia must recognise Kosova as independent country.
(EA, 8 December 2008 23:15)"

EA

You are the one who is naive. Please don't flatter Pristina unnecessarily. To "cut it short" as you state, the plain truth is that Kosovo isn't that important for the EU to risk its reputation by going back on its word that it has given the UNSC about status neutrality. EU has agreed for Eulex to be status neutral and Ban's 6-points were approved by the entire UNSC, which I must add, included EU members like France and UK, and of course your overlord the US.

1244 is still valid and mentioned by Eulex itself. And as you are ignorant about Serbia being recognized by both UN and EU as the legal successor to 1999's Yugoslavia following Montegro's independence in 2006, may I suggest you search the archives of CNN or BBC. Better still write to the UN or EU to verify this. You really ought to be more informed about the basics before you comment.

The Serbs have been blinded by International community, since there is no six points plan on the deployment of EULEX since they (USA and BRUSSELS) have planned to withdrawn the UN police from Kosovo no later than January 2009.
Once again the UNSCR 1244 has been violated, raped by US and its affiliates.