Slovakia: Technical recognition of passports

Dear Vindem

Your characterization of Albanians as "low level immigrants and criminals" is offensive, hateful, abusive, and unworthy of publication. Slovakia claims to be a modern European country, but the views you hold are worthy of Slobodan Milosevic and his era. I would not characterize a whole people by the deeds of a greatly exagerated few.

This wasn't very fortunate move. Even though these Albanians had no way of being recognized in Slovakia it was their problem not ours. It'll only strengthen them in their desilusions that Slovakia will recognize them. Not to say that we'are not interested in mass inflow of low level imigrants and criminals to Slovakia. Most unfortunate move.

Dear Florin,

I'm not a judge. I only expressed the common opinion based on general observation of albanian representatives and their actions. I heard k. albanians got a new liberation army lately, successor of UCK, which lately made imprison some Germans as a revenge.

Serbs was able to make an order on their political scene so I don't understand why you pulled out Milosevic. Unless it's the only measure you know and will know for the next 50 years. K. albanians would never be able of such self-reflection.

And don't try that cheap appeal on modernity of Slovakia, it doesn't mean Slovaks are blind.

Dear Florin:
I am not a slovak but I am Czech and I think we have the same problem with kosovo albanians in our country like slovaks. I have to only agree with Vindem .
Now you (kosovo albanians) have as you say your country than stay there - there is no reason to be in my country.

AO KS

Just because some pan-slavic commenters resort to very low/racist posts, shouldn't give you the right to emulate them.

There are few Albanians in these two countries , those that I've known personally report to have been treated very well. Racism towards Albanians there is by any means not an issue.

Security may not be excellent but is far from what those links portray. It's just as good as in Tirana, which is pretty safe, a lot more than most of big Italian cities.

There've been plenty of Czechs and some Slovaks visiting North Albania mountains lately.
Next year there'll be lots more.

Thus there are no issues between our peoples except for some stupid posts on a web.

Slovakia has just taken the first step in recognizing Kosovo as indipendent. The Hungarians there and beyond aren't behaving themselves, so let's put ourselves in their shoes and wait for the recognition. It'll surely come with time.

Happy Flag day.

"We are considering to in the future recognize the passports issued by the Kosovo authorities and stamp visas directly into them. But that does not mean that we will recognize Kosovo as a state," said Jan Škoda.

Yet another proof that Serbian propaganda is fading away. We are used to statements like this, and we all are aware where these statements will lead - full recognition by the Slovaks.

Though I'm not willing to travel to Slovakia, this doesn't stop me from thanking them for this step forward, cz there are many businessmen who need this.

So Serbs, Albanians as well, spare your offenses, cz this ain't a game where our comments matter, it's a game where bigger players are involved.

Dear Vindem, Slavic,

Generalizations are typical manifestation of ignorant remarks. Saying that Albanians are so and so, even though you might say that they represent the opinion of people in your countries, shows not only ignorance but insecurity.
Historically this phenomena was prevalent during the early immigration periods in the USA. many nationalities were considered:
Polish = stupid
Italians = criminals
Chinese = thieves
Irish = drunkards
By stating this generalization, you are offending all the Albanian population. Moreover you are offending many good Czech and Slovak friends of mine here in the US.

Slovakia please do us all a favor, and go back to not recognizing the passports. The number of Kosovars that need to go to Slovakia for any possible reason what so ever, can be represented mathematically by an empty set. No one here needs your visa, no one needs your recognition.
Please allow us to gracely forget again that you exist.

The reality on the ground: criminals don't need a passport, save visa to enter SK or CZ.

The Slovak visa process itself is reasonably tough no filter out really "unwanted" elements. People need to prove, they have money in the bank corresponding to 51 Euro/day, that they have job, that they do buy "green card" insurance for the car and reasonable health insurance. Slovak consulate in Belgrade even provides with addresses in KosMet, where health and car insurance can be obtained.

IMO, if Slovakia will stamp visas in the passport directly and thus give 1-year Schengen visas, that would be a good thing.

As for criminals - they sure either know all border leaks between Hungary and Serbia - or have the best-looking Swiss, American, German, etc. passports, probably many of them.

I always oppose all kind of passport and visa games, the games with Kosovo passports included. If Chinese do stamp Taiwanese passports and the Taiwanese do stamp Chinese - this is a lesser problem.

Suggestion to Slovaks authorities: have a special visa design or just an extra stamp which reads:

"By applying the Slovak visa in Kosovo passport we recognize it as a Serbian passport of design approved by travel document agency in Pristina". That would be the end of story on the Slovak side.

To Genc: CZ/SK has own quirks, of course. Like every place. Not sure, average Czech did ever seen a single Albanian.
My funniest experience was in Hungary. I had to use a taxi because I had a very large and heavy computer. First the taxi driver did entertain me about "criminal Albanians" infesting all Hungary. You know precisely, I am from SRB "gang" but my stomach got sick quickly. Looking at my reaction the taxi driver switched somehow (assuming I am on AL side) and it were "criminal Serbs, too". My reaction wasn't any better. What is funny, he never switched the meter on and I let him cheat me by 2000 Ft. I was simply to tired to argue after the long transatlantic flight and overnight train. So who was the criminal?

In other words, Slovakia is technically cracking to pressure.

So many hate comments from supposedly Slovaks: Here it is, we know you don't like us because you stand up for you 'Slav brothers' and frankly we don't care. Just do what EU leader tell you to do because you have been getting tens of $billions from them. Very soon Slovakia will recognize us, because they have no choice.

I must say that they do what everybody does in your country. Why Kosova Albanians are not treated and labeled in Germany and other democratic and non-corrupted western countries likewise? Because they have what else to do in those other countries, ie working, so they don't need to do what you say they do in Czech Rep. and/or Slovakia. We all know the corruption and crime levels in the aforementioned countries, don't we?

There's a saying: who you stay with, is what you become! I think Albanians have a good example to be who you presume they are there in your beloved countries, and they have to fit the environment if they want to be treated as "normal" people in your countries :).

And vindem, FYI, don't you worry about the "mass inflow of low level imigrants and criminals" coming to your country, cz we have many better places to go, and when my life will depend on Slovaks, that will be my last day on this planet!

Greets from Prishtina!

@Peggy.

For your information, K-Albanians don't need Serbian Passports to travel anywhere they want. They can apply for an Albanian Passport and get a visa in Tirana and the problem is solved. They can fly from Albania or via sea.

AO KS,

you mean the same Germany of which intelligence agency reported recently that the only areas flourishing in your mafia state are white slavery and drug and weapon smuggling? The same agency that your PM was trying to settle his account with by accusing 3 of their members of bomb attacks while it was the work of group of your fellow-citizens?

We all know the corruption and crime levels in the aforementioned countries, don't we?
(AO KS, 29 November 2008 20:33)

If you are talking about violent and property crime, you are better off in the said Central/Eastern/Southeastern Europe, where it is one of the lowest. If you include the organized crime, than Kosovo will look worse because it still is a significant factor there, no need to beautify that (otherwise: why EULEX?).

What makes headlights in the States is not a significant factor, regardless is it "their" Slovakia or "your" Kosovo. And most of USA does pale compared with Tijuana, MX (a favorite of mine), where a simple traffic stop by the police could mean, the police will rob and kill you. Is it a "fake" police or real does not matter. Many travel books suggest, never even ask the cops for directions. If they show up, give them some change ($10) to go away. And people live there under such conditions.

There are much bigger problems around, Kosovo/KosMet is not the center of the universe.

"The Slovak Republic has a medium rate of crime. Police forces suffer from a lack of manpower resources and equipment. Local police are not likely to speak English. Western visitors, especially short-term visitors such as tourists and students, are the primary foreign targets of street crime. The majority of street crime is non-violent and ranges from pickpocketing (particularly in the summer) and purse and cellular telephone snatchings to mugging, armed robbery, shooting, drugging and robbing of unsuspecting victims at nightspots and bars. Most reported thefts occur at crowded tourist sites (such as Bratislava’s Old Town area) or on public buses or trains. Thieves in the Slovak Republic often work in groups or pairs. In most cases, one thief distracts the victim, another performs the robbery, and a third person hands off the stolen item to a nearby accomplice. Groups of street children are known to divert tourists’ attention so that a member of their group can pickpocket the tourists while they are distracted.
Do not leave personal items in unattended vehicles, even if locked.
Reports of racially motivated incidents against foreigners and minorities, particularly perpetrated by groups with a history of targeting persons of Roma, African, or Asian descent, have occurred in the Slovak Republic. In addition to incidents of assault, persons of Roma, African, or Asian heritage may be subject to various types of harassment, such as verbal abuse."

You can read much more of this here: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1019.html#crime


"The Czech Republic generally has a low crime rate. However, street crime – particularly pick-pocketing and occasional mugging –is a problem, especially in major tourist areas in Prague. Travelers are encouraged to be especially vigilant in Prague’s restaurants, train stations, and on public transportation around the city center. Incidents of pick-pocketing were reported in significant numbers during 2007. Incidents of violent crime, while still relatively infrequent, are becoming more common in Prague. Travelers should be aware of the reported use of rohypnol and other “date rape” drugs in the Czech Republic. Caution should be used when accepting open drinks at bars or clubs. Travelers should be very careful while riding trains, trams, or metro, where most crime occurs. Keep a copy of your passport in a safe place separate from the passport itself; this copy can help you to apply for a new passport if yours is lost or stolen. Visitors should be alert to the potential for substantial overcharging by taxis, particularly in areas frequented by tourists. Radio-dispatched taxis are often much more reliable. It is also advisable to set the price in advance to avoid being overcharged."

More on this story: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1099.html#victim

@Peggy.

For your information, K-Albanians don't need Serbian Passports to travel anywhere they want. They can apply for an Albanian Passport and get a visa in Tirana and the problem is solved. They can fly from Albania or via sea.
(Albanian, 30 November 2008 11:27)

Another Oxford educated buffon who does not know what he is talking about. He does not know how many of the Kosovo albanians are working in the middle east with a Yugoslav passport. Now since they have go back home to get the Republic of Kosova passport they will be stuck between a rock and a hard place because the UAE does not accept the passport only Serbian or Yugoslav. Since Albanian has no knowledge of this then he has not valid point. Why go and get a albanian passport when you live in Kosovo. There you have it not even albanians in albania support kosovo. Just ignore your own country join ours.

"@Peggy.

For your information, K-Albanians don't need Serbian Passports to travel anywhere they want. They can apply for an Albanian Passport and get a visa in Tirana and the problem is solved. They can fly from Albania or via sea.
(Albanian, 30 November 2008 11:27)"

tell us, why are so many K-albanians travelling to central-Serbia to get their documents from the oh-so fiercely hated state instead of easily going to Albania and applying for albanian documents?

LOL, c'mon, it's all little innocent games, this link

http://tinyurl.com/55mzlx

included (notice the map!). The most serious risk is car theft, with the entire Europe almost equally affected. The only protection is to have good enough total loss insurance and a car which is "unpopular". Make your own research. Other measures are pretty useless.

A second-most-likely crime is everything, what concerns what we call "girlie bars". Given the economic situation and extremely "conservative" upbringing of everyone here, this is the least likely crime to happen. For the rest: there is no insurance against stupidity.

Much less amusing reading:

http://tinyurl.com/8fxay

"Armed street crime is a serious problem in all of the major cities."
"havens for drug dealers and petty criminals".
"Some establishments may contaminate or drug drinks to gain control over the patron."
"Victims, who are almost always unaccompanied, have been raped, robbed of personal property, or abducted and then held while their credit cards were used at various businesses and Automatic Teller Machines (ATMs). "
"Harassment/Extortion: mistreatment and extortion by law enforcement and other officials."

Nice "collection", probably of unheard for you guys proportions. And it's considered a major vacation destination. The last sentence is really alarming. If lost/navigator not working/unsure I usually flash and try to stop the police, assuming, they will help in whatever language. Worked in the States, worked with MUP, worked with KP. Now imagine you asking the directions and the police takes you hostage, steals your car, rapes, kills, what-not, just in peace time. So be happy, you are still not the "wild west".

Slovakia did not need to recognize Kosovo passports in order for K-Albanians to travel to Slovakia. Many K-Albanians have taken Serbian passports and that would've been enough.

The K-Albanians who don't want to take out the Serbian passports are choosing to be excluded from Slovakia or any other country who doesn't recognize them.
How are these same Albanians going to travel to two thirds of the world with their Kosovo passports as two thirds of the world has not recognized them? Simple as that.

I think Slovakia was under a great deal of pressure to do this. Nothing to do with humanitarian reasons.

Geni,
Generalisation, ignorance and top view are the typical features of Americans, not us. American's claims about their care of democracy in Kosovo and Europe are quite absurd while having 2nd biggest military instalation there. If you care so much about a democracy in the world you should beter go to Afrika or North Korea. These countries are obviously misfortuned as they have nothing to give you in return.

AO KS,
Let's see what your patrons have to say about you:

"CRIME: High unemployment and other economic factors have encouraged criminal activity. Street crimes, in particular theft and purse snatchings, are serious problems in Kosovo, especially Pristina. It is not unusual for criminals to commit crimes while armed, especially with handguns. Foreigners can be targets for crime, as they are assumed to carry cash. Likewise, foreigners’ homes, vehicles and international non-governmental organization (NGO) offices have been subject to burglaries. The loss or theft of a U.S. passport should be reported immediately to the nearest police station and to U.S. Embassy Pristina."

"Americans should avoid demonstrations and other sites, such as roadblocks, where large crowds are gathered, particularly those involving political/ethnic causes. Even demonstrations intended to be peaceful have the potential to turn into confrontational situations and possibly escalate into violence."

So much about generalisation. I'm sure there are adventurers going to Kosovo like there are adventurers going to Africa. Like recently when a bus of czech tourists in Kosovo was stone attacked by those sweet k. albanians. The few albanian posters here won't make any difference of the real situation.

Another Oxford educated buffon who does not know what he is talking about. He does not know how many of the Kosovo albanians are working in the middle east with a Yugoslav passport. Now since they have go back home to get the Republic of Kosova passport they will be stuck between a rock and a hard place because the UAE does not accept the passport only Serbian or Yugoslav. Since Albanian has no knowledge of this then he has not valid point. Why go and get a albanian passport when you live in Kosovo. There you have it not even albanians in albania support kosovo. Just ignore your own country join ours.
(HE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH, 30 November 2008 13:24)

It is so sad to read a 100% comment. But someone who calls himself a messenger of truth can only be a peddler of lies.

But the part "There you have it not even albanians in albania support kosovo." is actually very funny.

Very, very funny.

Vindem, since there's no other official website to refer to, then I have to read that American report, which I must say, is not very accurate, but after all it is based somewhere at some point of time.

If those reports are not true for Slovakia, then they're not true for Kosova either. You said it right, they must be personally-based reports, hence it must be for Kosova as well.

I have never been to Slovakia and I don't plan to do that in my long-term plan, but based on the news and other reports coming from your news agencies and international agencies, I must say your country is not a country that sets examples of democracy and non-corruption - so let's be real and face the truth.

I don't have anything against good citizens, be them from Serbia, Slovakia, Africa... as long as they respect me for who I am, not by judging me for some criminal records of some of my fellow citizens in other countries.

So Vindem, forgive me if I have said anything that hurt your feelings, but as you tend to defend your country, I have to do the same - but we have to be realistic, don't let the emotions capture you!

Greets from you know where :)

@vindem - "Local police are not likely to speak English."

What if I come to Slovakia and I don't speak Slovak, I only do speak Albanian and English? If you rob me, how the hell I'm gonna report the theft?

Man, you've got so many serious issues than we do, believe me! That was only one sentence that made me laugh a lot about the US report about Slovaks, and there are far too many other statements that are to be considered, but since this article is about Kosova Passports and it's recognition from Slovaks, I don't think we should be talking about these issues in this article!

Vindem, you did it again.
You generalized Americans as ignorant. I don't know if you really understand the issue or not. Not every American shares the same ideas about their country's foreign policy, nor do they share the same level of ignorance with eachother. I am not saying that(neither I implied that) Slovakians are ignorant. I simply equated the people that stereotype as ignorant.

Slobodan, I do not have to do research to comment in here, do I. If Chinese were not stereotype as thieves, they were stereotyped as something else (opium-smugglers). But the essence of the comment remains the same. Moreover, why do you have to see it with the negative eye (that I fabricated it).
The problems in the Balkans persist because people there see each other with a negative eye.
Open your mind.

# 14 "Chinese = Thieves"

Your comment about the Chinese being stereotyped as thieves (in any period) in U.S. history, is totally false, and propably made-up by you, or that charlatan Megallomatis fella. I am uncertain of your motive.

AO KS,
you can to laugh as much as you'd like, but what's to say about kosovo is diametrically different level of crimes. That american report is superficial and inadequate, which is not very surprising. It was probably writen based on individual experiences of some dozens american tourists a decade ago. State and local police are instructed to know basics of foreign language, if not an interpreter is provided. You should try your english or albanian when talking to the policemen in France or Germany. Good luck with that especially with french policemen. But this wouldn't be your problem anyway as k. albanians would probably be found on the other side of the law.

For those who think theyv missed alot for not having visited Bratislava? I tell you. Bratislava looks like Skopje 20 years ago! Just when u arrive at the main train station you see a large number of alcoholics on the street. a place where signs are written in Czech, German and Russian!
Nobody understand English, only some broken german!Its almost the sort of EuroTrip Description except the currency rate. In my case i got ripped off!
AO KS , in Bratislavsky u get an average of 2.5 euros per hour/ i guarantee u no albanian would go there to work, but for Fun purposes only, and that would be in Prague rather! Like myself, who goes there just to buy cigarettes with ukrainian price and get few beers for a euro or smth!

"HE WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH"

The Albanians that work in UAE are not going to be deprived from working to that country because their Passports will not be recognized...

UAE has already recognized Kosova's Independence without notifying you, nor asking for your permission.
At last if you wanna come here and write arrogant scripture, at least make sure you get your facts correct.

Vasil Gjika
New York

This wasn't very fortunate move. Even though these Albanians had no way of being recognized in Slovakia it was their problem not ours. It'll only strengthen them in their desilusions that Slovakia will recognize them. Not to say that we'are not interested in mass inflow of low level imigrants and criminals to Slovakia. Most unfortunate move.

Dear Vindem

Your characterization of Albanians as "low level immigrants and criminals" is offensive, hateful, abusive, and unworthy of publication. Slovakia claims to be a modern European country, but the views you hold are worthy of Slobodan Milosevic and his era. I would not characterize a whole people by the deeds of a greatly exagerated few.

Dear Florin:
I am not a slovak but I am Czech and I think we have the same problem with kosovo albanians in our country like slovaks. I have to only agree with Vindem .
Now you (kosovo albanians) have as you say your country than stay there - there is no reason to be in my country.

Dear Florin,

I'm not a judge. I only expressed the common opinion based on general observation of albanian representatives and their actions. I heard k. albanians got a new liberation army lately, successor of UCK, which lately made imprison some Germans as a revenge.

Serbs was able to make an order on their political scene so I don't understand why you pulled out Milosevic. Unless it's the only measure you know and will know for the next 50 years. K. albanians would never be able of such self-reflection.

And don't try that cheap appeal on modernity of Slovakia, it doesn't mean Slovaks are blind.

I must say that they do what everybody does in your country. Why Kosova Albanians are not treated and labeled in Germany and other democratic and non-corrupted western countries likewise? Because they have what else to do in those other countries, ie working, so they don't need to do what you say they do in Czech Rep. and/or Slovakia. We all know the corruption and crime levels in the aforementioned countries, don't we?

There's a saying: who you stay with, is what you become! I think Albanians have a good example to be who you presume they are there in your beloved countries, and they have to fit the environment if they want to be treated as "normal" people in your countries :).

And vindem, FYI, don't you worry about the "mass inflow of low level imigrants and criminals" coming to your country, cz we have many better places to go, and when my life will depend on Slovaks, that will be my last day on this planet!

Greets from Prishtina!

AO KS,

you mean the same Germany of which intelligence agency reported recently that the only areas flourishing in your mafia state are white slavery and drug and weapon smuggling? The same agency that your PM was trying to settle his account with by accusing 3 of their members of bomb attacks while it was the work of group of your fellow-citizens?

AO KS

Just because some pan-slavic commenters resort to very low/racist posts, shouldn't give you the right to emulate them.

There are few Albanians in these two countries , those that I've known personally report to have been treated very well. Racism towards Albanians there is by any means not an issue.

Security may not be excellent but is far from what those links portray. It's just as good as in Tirana, which is pretty safe, a lot more than most of big Italian cities.

There've been plenty of Czechs and some Slovaks visiting North Albania mountains lately.
Next year there'll be lots more.

Thus there are no issues between our peoples except for some stupid posts on a web.

Slovakia has just taken the first step in recognizing Kosovo as indipendent. The Hungarians there and beyond aren't behaving themselves, so let's put ourselves in their shoes and wait for the recognition. It'll surely come with time.

Happy Flag day.

"We are considering to in the future recognize the passports issued by the Kosovo authorities and stamp visas directly into them. But that does not mean that we will recognize Kosovo as a state," said Jan Škoda.

Yet another proof that Serbian propaganda is fading away. We are used to statements like this, and we all are aware where these statements will lead - full recognition by the Slovaks.

Though I'm not willing to travel to Slovakia, this doesn't stop me from thanking them for this step forward, cz there are many businessmen who need this.

So Serbs, Albanians as well, spare your offenses, cz this ain't a game where our comments matter, it's a game where bigger players are involved.

Slovakia please do us all a favor, and go back to not recognizing the passports. The number of Kosovars that need to go to Slovakia for any possible reason what so ever, can be represented mathematically by an empty set. No one here needs your visa, no one needs your recognition.
Please allow us to gracely forget again that you exist.

@Peggy.

For your information, K-Albanians don't need Serbian Passports to travel anywhere they want. They can apply for an Albanian Passport and get a visa in Tirana and the problem is solved. They can fly from Albania or via sea.
(Albanian, 30 November 2008 11:27)

Another Oxford educated buffon who does not know what he is talking about. He does not know how many of the Kosovo albanians are working in the middle east with a Yugoslav passport. Now since they have go back home to get the Republic of Kosova passport they will be stuck between a rock and a hard place because the UAE does not accept the passport only Serbian or Yugoslav. Since Albanian has no knowledge of this then he has not valid point. Why go and get a albanian passport when you live in Kosovo. There you have it not even albanians in albania support kosovo. Just ignore your own country join ours.

# 14 "Chinese = Thieves"

Your comment about the Chinese being stereotyped as thieves (in any period) in U.S. history, is totally false, and propably made-up by you, or that charlatan Megallomatis fella. I am uncertain of your motive.

In other words, Slovakia is technically cracking to pressure.

Slovakia did not need to recognize Kosovo passports in order for K-Albanians to travel to Slovakia. Many K-Albanians have taken Serbian passports and that would've been enough.

The K-Albanians who don't want to take out the Serbian passports are choosing to be excluded from Slovakia or any other country who doesn't recognize them.
How are these same Albanians going to travel to two thirds of the world with their Kosovo passports as two thirds of the world has not recognized them? Simple as that.

I think Slovakia was under a great deal of pressure to do this. Nothing to do with humanitarian reasons.

So many hate comments from supposedly Slovaks: Here it is, we know you don't like us because you stand up for you 'Slav brothers' and frankly we don't care. Just do what EU leader tell you to do because you have been getting tens of $billions from them. Very soon Slovakia will recognize us, because they have no choice.

@Peggy.

For your information, K-Albanians don't need Serbian Passports to travel anywhere they want. They can apply for an Albanian Passport and get a visa in Tirana and the problem is solved. They can fly from Albania or via sea.

Geni,
Generalisation, ignorance and top view are the typical features of Americans, not us. American's claims about their care of democracy in Kosovo and Europe are quite absurd while having 2nd biggest military instalation there. If you care so much about a democracy in the world you should beter go to Afrika or North Korea. These countries are obviously misfortuned as they have nothing to give you in return.

AO KS,
Let's see what your patrons have to say about you:

"CRIME: High unemployment and other economic factors have encouraged criminal activity. Street crimes, in particular theft and purse snatchings, are serious problems in Kosovo, especially Pristina. It is not unusual for criminals to commit crimes while armed, especially with handguns. Foreigners can be targets for crime, as they are assumed to carry cash. Likewise, foreigners’ homes, vehicles and international non-governmental organization (NGO) offices have been subject to burglaries. The loss or theft of a U.S. passport should be reported immediately to the nearest police station and to U.S. Embassy Pristina."

"Americans should avoid demonstrations and other sites, such as roadblocks, where large crowds are gathered, particularly those involving political/ethnic causes. Even demonstrations intended to be peaceful have the potential to turn into confrontational situations and possibly escalate into violence."

So much about generalisation. I'm sure there are adventurers going to Kosovo like there are adventurers going to Africa. Like recently when a bus of czech tourists in Kosovo was stone attacked by those sweet k. albanians. The few albanian posters here won't make any difference of the real situation.

Another Oxford educated buffon who does not know what he is talking about. He does not know how many of the Kosovo albanians are working in the middle east with a Yugoslav passport. Now since they have go back home to get the Republic of Kosova passport they will be stuck between a rock and a hard place because the UAE does not accept the passport only Serbian or Yugoslav. Since Albanian has no knowledge of this then he has not valid point. Why go and get a albanian passport when you live in Kosovo. There you have it not even albanians in albania support kosovo. Just ignore your own country join ours.
(HE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH, 30 November 2008 13:24)

It is so sad to read a 100% comment. But someone who calls himself a messenger of truth can only be a peddler of lies.

But the part "There you have it not even albanians in albania support kosovo." is actually very funny.

Very, very funny.

Dear Vindem, Slavic,

Generalizations are typical manifestation of ignorant remarks. Saying that Albanians are so and so, even though you might say that they represent the opinion of people in your countries, shows not only ignorance but insecurity.
Historically this phenomena was prevalent during the early immigration periods in the USA. many nationalities were considered:
Polish = stupid
Italians = criminals
Chinese = thieves
Irish = drunkards
By stating this generalization, you are offending all the Albanian population. Moreover you are offending many good Czech and Slovak friends of mine here in the US.

"The Slovak Republic has a medium rate of crime. Police forces suffer from a lack of manpower resources and equipment. Local police are not likely to speak English. Western visitors, especially short-term visitors such as tourists and students, are the primary foreign targets of street crime. The majority of street crime is non-violent and ranges from pickpocketing (particularly in the summer) and purse and cellular telephone snatchings to mugging, armed robbery, shooting, drugging and robbing of unsuspecting victims at nightspots and bars. Most reported thefts occur at crowded tourist sites (such as Bratislava’s Old Town area) or on public buses or trains. Thieves in the Slovak Republic often work in groups or pairs. In most cases, one thief distracts the victim, another performs the robbery, and a third person hands off the stolen item to a nearby accomplice. Groups of street children are known to divert tourists’ attention so that a member of their group can pickpocket the tourists while they are distracted.
Do not leave personal items in unattended vehicles, even if locked.
Reports of racially motivated incidents against foreigners and minorities, particularly perpetrated by groups with a history of targeting persons of Roma, African, or Asian descent, have occurred in the Slovak Republic. In addition to incidents of assault, persons of Roma, African, or Asian heritage may be subject to various types of harassment, such as verbal abuse."

You can read much more of this here: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1019.html#crime


"The Czech Republic generally has a low crime rate. However, street crime – particularly pick-pocketing and occasional mugging –is a problem, especially in major tourist areas in Prague. Travelers are encouraged to be especially vigilant in Prague’s restaurants, train stations, and on public transportation around the city center. Incidents of pick-pocketing were reported in significant numbers during 2007. Incidents of violent crime, while still relatively infrequent, are becoming more common in Prague. Travelers should be aware of the reported use of rohypnol and other “date rape” drugs in the Czech Republic. Caution should be used when accepting open drinks at bars or clubs. Travelers should be very careful while riding trains, trams, or metro, where most crime occurs. Keep a copy of your passport in a safe place separate from the passport itself; this copy can help you to apply for a new passport if yours is lost or stolen. Visitors should be alert to the potential for substantial overcharging by taxis, particularly in areas frequented by tourists. Radio-dispatched taxis are often much more reliable. It is also advisable to set the price in advance to avoid being overcharged."

More on this story: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1099.html#victim

@vindem - "Local police are not likely to speak English."

What if I come to Slovakia and I don't speak Slovak, I only do speak Albanian and English? If you rob me, how the hell I'm gonna report the theft?

Man, you've got so many serious issues than we do, believe me! That was only one sentence that made me laugh a lot about the US report about Slovaks, and there are far too many other statements that are to be considered, but since this article is about Kosova Passports and it's recognition from Slovaks, I don't think we should be talking about these issues in this article!

"@Peggy.

For your information, K-Albanians don't need Serbian Passports to travel anywhere they want. They can apply for an Albanian Passport and get a visa in Tirana and the problem is solved. They can fly from Albania or via sea.
(Albanian, 30 November 2008 11:27)"

tell us, why are so many K-albanians travelling to central-Serbia to get their documents from the oh-so fiercely hated state instead of easily going to Albania and applying for albanian documents?

The reality on the ground: criminals don't need a passport, save visa to enter SK or CZ.

The Slovak visa process itself is reasonably tough no filter out really "unwanted" elements. People need to prove, they have money in the bank corresponding to 51 Euro/day, that they have job, that they do buy "green card" insurance for the car and reasonable health insurance. Slovak consulate in Belgrade even provides with addresses in KosMet, where health and car insurance can be obtained.

IMO, if Slovakia will stamp visas in the passport directly and thus give 1-year Schengen visas, that would be a good thing.

As for criminals - they sure either know all border leaks between Hungary and Serbia - or have the best-looking Swiss, American, German, etc. passports, probably many of them.

I always oppose all kind of passport and visa games, the games with Kosovo passports included. If Chinese do stamp Taiwanese passports and the Taiwanese do stamp Chinese - this is a lesser problem.

Suggestion to Slovaks authorities: have a special visa design or just an extra stamp which reads:

"By applying the Slovak visa in Kosovo passport we recognize it as a Serbian passport of design approved by travel document agency in Pristina". That would be the end of story on the Slovak side.

To Genc: CZ/SK has own quirks, of course. Like every place. Not sure, average Czech did ever seen a single Albanian.
My funniest experience was in Hungary. I had to use a taxi because I had a very large and heavy computer. First the taxi driver did entertain me about "criminal Albanians" infesting all Hungary. You know precisely, I am from SRB "gang" but my stomach got sick quickly. Looking at my reaction the taxi driver switched somehow (assuming I am on AL side) and it were "criminal Serbs, too". My reaction wasn't any better. What is funny, he never switched the meter on and I let him cheat me by 2000 Ft. I was simply to tired to argue after the long transatlantic flight and overnight train. So who was the criminal?

AO KS,
you can to laugh as much as you'd like, but what's to say about kosovo is diametrically different level of crimes. That american report is superficial and inadequate, which is not very surprising. It was probably writen based on individual experiences of some dozens american tourists a decade ago. State and local police are instructed to know basics of foreign language, if not an interpreter is provided. You should try your english or albanian when talking to the policemen in France or Germany. Good luck with that especially with french policemen. But this wouldn't be your problem anyway as k. albanians would probably be found on the other side of the law.

We all know the corruption and crime levels in the aforementioned countries, don't we?
(AO KS, 29 November 2008 20:33)

If you are talking about violent and property crime, you are better off in the said Central/Eastern/Southeastern Europe, where it is one of the lowest. If you include the organized crime, than Kosovo will look worse because it still is a significant factor there, no need to beautify that (otherwise: why EULEX?).

What makes headlights in the States is not a significant factor, regardless is it "their" Slovakia or "your" Kosovo. And most of USA does pale compared with Tijuana, MX (a favorite of mine), where a simple traffic stop by the police could mean, the police will rob and kill you. Is it a "fake" police or real does not matter. Many travel books suggest, never even ask the cops for directions. If they show up, give them some change ($10) to go away. And people live there under such conditions.

There are much bigger problems around, Kosovo/KosMet is not the center of the universe.

LOL, c'mon, it's all little innocent games, this link

http://tinyurl.com/55mzlx

included (notice the map!). The most serious risk is car theft, with the entire Europe almost equally affected. The only protection is to have good enough total loss insurance and a car which is "unpopular". Make your own research. Other measures are pretty useless.

A second-most-likely crime is everything, what concerns what we call "girlie bars". Given the economic situation and extremely "conservative" upbringing of everyone here, this is the least likely crime to happen. For the rest: there is no insurance against stupidity.

Much less amusing reading:

http://tinyurl.com/8fxay

"Armed street crime is a serious problem in all of the major cities."
"havens for drug dealers and petty criminals".
"Some establishments may contaminate or drug drinks to gain control over the patron."
"Victims, who are almost always unaccompanied, have been raped, robbed of personal property, or abducted and then held while their credit cards were used at various businesses and Automatic Teller Machines (ATMs). "
"Harassment/Extortion: mistreatment and extortion by law enforcement and other officials."

Nice "collection", probably of unheard for you guys proportions. And it's considered a major vacation destination. The last sentence is really alarming. If lost/navigator not working/unsure I usually flash and try to stop the police, assuming, they will help in whatever language. Worked in the States, worked with MUP, worked with KP. Now imagine you asking the directions and the police takes you hostage, steals your car, rapes, kills, what-not, just in peace time. So be happy, you are still not the "wild west".

For those who think theyv missed alot for not having visited Bratislava? I tell you. Bratislava looks like Skopje 20 years ago! Just when u arrive at the main train station you see a large number of alcoholics on the street. a place where signs are written in Czech, German and Russian!
Nobody understand English, only some broken german!Its almost the sort of EuroTrip Description except the currency rate. In my case i got ripped off!
AO KS , in Bratislavsky u get an average of 2.5 euros per hour/ i guarantee u no albanian would go there to work, but for Fun purposes only, and that would be in Prague rather! Like myself, who goes there just to buy cigarettes with ukrainian price and get few beers for a euro or smth!

Vindem, since there's no other official website to refer to, then I have to read that American report, which I must say, is not very accurate, but after all it is based somewhere at some point of time.

If those reports are not true for Slovakia, then they're not true for Kosova either. You said it right, they must be personally-based reports, hence it must be for Kosova as well.

I have never been to Slovakia and I don't plan to do that in my long-term plan, but based on the news and other reports coming from your news agencies and international agencies, I must say your country is not a country that sets examples of democracy and non-corruption - so let's be real and face the truth.

I don't have anything against good citizens, be them from Serbia, Slovakia, Africa... as long as they respect me for who I am, not by judging me for some criminal records of some of my fellow citizens in other countries.

So Vindem, forgive me if I have said anything that hurt your feelings, but as you tend to defend your country, I have to do the same - but we have to be realistic, don't let the emotions capture you!

Greets from you know where :)

Vindem, you did it again.
You generalized Americans as ignorant. I don't know if you really understand the issue or not. Not every American shares the same ideas about their country's foreign policy, nor do they share the same level of ignorance with eachother. I am not saying that(neither I implied that) Slovakians are ignorant. I simply equated the people that stereotype as ignorant.

Slobodan, I do not have to do research to comment in here, do I. If Chinese were not stereotype as thieves, they were stereotyped as something else (opium-smugglers). But the essence of the comment remains the same. Moreover, why do you have to see it with the negative eye (that I fabricated it).
The problems in the Balkans persist because people there see each other with a negative eye.
Open your mind.

"HE WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH"

The Albanians that work in UAE are not going to be deprived from working to that country because their Passports will not be recognized...

UAE has already recognized Kosova's Independence without notifying you, nor asking for your permission.
At last if you wanna come here and write arrogant scripture, at least make sure you get your facts correct.

Vasil Gjika
New York