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Thursday, 27.11.2008.

15:21

Kosovo Albanian group in terror warning

An group calling itself the Army of the Republic of Kosovo has claimed responsibility for the bombing of the International Civilian Office (ICO) in Priština.

Izvor: B92

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Jovan

pre 15 godina

"Well, b92, look at this, [link]

they denounced it...actually saying serbia secret police did it..
(Jovan, 28 November 2008 20:24)"


I´d like to emphasize that the albanian kid, who is pasting links to some albanian yellow-papers under the nick-name "Jovan" has nothing to do with me.

actually it´s a sign of weakness if one feels the need to use other poeple´s names in here.

so, to this kid personally: go and get yourself some other "name", thanks a lot, though.

Joe (not Serb)

pre 15 godina

This was a false flag operation that went wrong and now some 'new' group is invented to claim responsibility and to save the three German agents.
Was the attack executed so to put the blame on the Serbs?
Or was it done to put the K-Albanians in a bad daylight?

The UN, notably Ban Ki Moon, is against the Eulex taking over in Kosovo completely. Ban Ki Moon had Artishari investigated for corruption allegations against him (the charge was that Artisari was bribed by the K-Albanians to recognize Kosovo as an indepent state). You know who Ban Ki Moon allegedly ordered to investigate Artisari? The German secret service BND.

Things are cooking in the Balkans again. There is fishy stuff going on.

Peja

pre 15 godina

Army of the Republic of Kosovo is the 'camoflage' name for a small group of individual in the pay of a senior Pristina government official (I wont write his name here and cause B92 trouble) who wants UNMIK, EULEX and all Serbs out of Kosovo.

Germans were very close to establishing evidences linking bombing to that official. They were arrested to prevent that evidence being made to public.

Where are all the Albanian posters who were praising the KPS for catching the Germans and saying they were working for the Serbs?

Abi Karmadhi

pre 15 godina

I am very suprised at b92 for using the name of KP Spokespearson Veton Elshani. How is possible that Veton elshani has told this story to b92, and left out Kosova media in general. Any explonation b92?

milan

pre 15 godina

Your first response is "This is Milosevic propaganda". For goodness sake, leave the dead alone for once. Everything you don't agree with becomes propaganda to you. Is Milosevic speaking to you from the grave?
(Peggy, 28 November 2008 00:17)

You're out of order there. Its actually one of the greatest K-Albanian military victories in the 21st century

http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/savich/savich9.html

TS

pre 15 godina

It is shameful that Milosevic wasn't sentenced for his crimes against humaity, but he's dead. And the dead don't speak. In particular, the dead doesn't create propaganda.

This is just the pretext to what I have predicted all the time: renewed unrest in Kosovo. Some K. Alb are now seeing their living standards fall, and they respond just like they usually do, with violence, threats, and barbary.

At the moment, the fall in living standards isn't widespread, and the imagionation of independence and self-rule is still maintained.

But that won't last. The drop in living standards will be considerable as remmittances dry up, as Camp Bondsteel has to start saving money, and as EULEX will start a crack down on organized crime. Finally, Kosovo's supporters won't have so much money to spare, so the aid funds will drop as well.

Them this will be an everyday event. Violence will return, and some kind of crack-down is inevitable. Partitioning of Kosovo is not ruled out, and Serbian influence in the enclaves will be stronger.

It's a phony country, with a phony leadership, phony economy, and phony stability. It won't last for long.

dd

pre 15 godina

I don't understand some Albanian posters here (Alban, EA, Maks,Olf, miri, lili, Ilir etc.).
They promised in last couple of days that it will never happen that they will accept Belgrade-UN Six Point Plan and that will never work for Albanians in Kosovo - we're indjependent - 95% etc. - with vigorous threats. And they said - if that happen that means WAR. That's what above mentioned posters exactly said.

And now - what's unexpected here - just logical results of above threats and frustration - remember last week demonstration against Balgrade-UN six point plan.
Hundred thousands were protesting and promising it will never be accepted and it can't be forced on Albanians - including same Thaci and Sejdiu.

Some did what they say and promised to do. Others denied and blame Slobo and his propaganda and some on this side turned back to say - accepting Six Point Plan is the best thing that happen to Kosova - indjependence they had before yesterday is nothing - this one from today and forever is even bigger, newer and ...Please make your mind, back-up your previous thoughts and be consistent.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,” the organization stated in its e-mail, adding that severed Serb heads would be sent to Serbian politicians.

Excelent Milosevic propoganda.
(Maks, 27 November 2008 15:31)

Now you don't even believe your own. This was written by your people not Serbs. The Serbs obviously have proof of this like the email.

Keep this up and you are not going to be believed when you say your name.

Your first response is "This is Milosevic propaganda". For goodness sake, leave the dead alone for once. Everything you don't agree with becomes propaganda to you. Is Milosevic speaking to you from the grave?

roberto

pre 15 godina

First of all, today is our thanksgiving, so i wish to extend best wishes to all, regardless of ethnicity, "race," religion (or lack thereof), politics, gender, marital status, sexual preference, age (i'm running out.) here, we try to be inclusive, even to excess...

as for this nice "news" article (no quotes on that) -- what year is this? please god someone remind me what year this is, because i know that EXACtly such articles were very popular in the late 80s/ early 90s, and they were very effective as scaring the hell out of people, and how shall i say it, putting them in the mood for the "fun" to come. Know what i mean?

and then the part about "Heads will roll..." i mean i'm not sure whether to be horrified or if i'm watching an old rerun of "Hogan's Heroes": "Hogan -- You follow our orders or Heads will Roll!!"

the truth is if i published one tiny fraction of the DAILY threats and curses against my people (jews), bogus or otherwise, and broadcast such threats as though they were an imminent reality, then probably every jew around the world would run/swim to Israel or at least take up a gun to defend themselves and their families...

it is called "fanning the flames" and i have never seen it done with such finesse and earnestness...

roberto
robertoruss@yahoo.com

Goran

pre 15 godina

Hahahahaha. This is the best thing i've heard this week.

What a joke! I mean, come on, now to think that they can keep doing this? The second something doesn't go there way, s@#$ hits the fan, and threats are as abundant as their common sense. I would like to see them try. Either the UN/KFOR peace keepers will wipe them out, followed by serbian army intervention; or even when eulex takes over, they'll get wiped out, and the serbian army will step in.

Dardan

pre 15 godina

You guys are so Funny, SERBIA and THE NEWS where always ridiculous, this news is such a propaganda for serbs, may be thats why they think they are so right because they dont know what is realy going one just because of your crazy news coming out of nowere just to brainwash people.

Learn More for Reality in Kosovo people.

ben

pre 15 godina

A new group asuumes reposnsbilty- BND agents sent free, from risking 20-40 years of jail (as from Kosova's laws) for terrorist attacks- case closed- everyone is happy...except the truth that we will nver know...

Tim

pre 15 godina

It may be that foreign agents are behind this. See where this is going K albs? War crime investigations are ramping up, black ops conducted by foreign governments to discredit the "Kosovar". This whole aperatus that was directed against Serbia is now refocusing on you, the k albs. You don't have a chance.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

when a friend of mine saw this article he said that albanians commenting on this site would claim milosevic was campaigning against them from his grave. this makes the comment #1 here absolutely hilarious :)

Canadian

pre 15 godina

Pure nonsense! The bombing was done by the Germans. This is Germany's way of trying to get out of a tricky position. The Germans prefer tension in Kosovo and when ever things settle down they will always try to mix it up and blame the Serbs or Albanians.

Germany should be kicked out of Kosovo for what they did, both the Albanians and Serbs to stand together on this issue!

Mark Jaho

pre 15 godina

Ratko @ comment#6:

This tactic on the part of the Serbs is nothing new. Making up imaginary threats is just another childish Serb prank. NATO has been aware of this Serb practice since the early 1990's. The IP address is being checked, as we speak, against others of this type.

Shades of "organ harvesting"! This is just another unfortunate and embarrassing stunt by the Serbs. Recall the fake photos of severed Serb heads that was blamed on the Croats during 1992, then they blamed the Bosnians and finally the very same doctored photos was used as "evidence" against the Albanians.

Florin

pre 15 godina

Dear Serb posters

You are jumping up and down with joy at this great news story.

But think for a minute: Any person in the world can open a "personal" e-mail account, and email whomever he wants and claim to be whatever he wants to be. Until there is some hard evidence that there is anything viable behind this email, I think you are jumping to conclusions a bit prematurely. Then again, its Albanians you are dealing with, so if its bad then it must be true.

The Swiss

pre 15 godina

Check the IP address, I bet it's from Germany :)

German media reported this 'threat' first.
(Albanez, 27 November 2008 16:51)

what another great statement of yours, I would have expected that you would accuse again the Serbs, maybe the German were paid by the Serbs....think about it!

As a matter of fact, none of us should be surprised by this, big snake has left a lot of orphan snakes around looking for some job again!

I so much understand now why none of the k-albanians based in Switzerland have ANY WISH AT ALL to return. I always found it very selfish but I would say now, very wise...

bganon

pre 15 godina

This is something of a development.
I must admit to being absolutely astonished that the Germans were arrested, if there was not sufficient evidence, or if they had nothing to do with it. Even if they did it, it was a very risky move.

That kind of action can easily cause a diplomatic incident right at the time when Kosovo Albanians need international allies.

'Moderates, I'm talking to you here. Please shake some sense into your nationalist, your etremists, you haters. Both sides please. This nonesense is getting old and tiring. '

Its not that simple from a Serbian perspective, not until recently in any case. Much of Serbian extremism is caused by prior experience, it will take a while to undo, but if things continue as they are I predict the extreme opinion will melt away, leaving a smaller rump of uber right wingers. Conversely I'm afraid we will likely witness more Albanian nationalist extremism.

I don't think its any accident that in the last couple of days extreme opinions have been not been expressed as much.

marKo

pre 15 godina

whomever wrote the email is probably an incompotent failure; full of hate but not smart or brave enough to accomplish anything.

Why should he build something to help his town or people when it is easier to doll out electronic threats.

If this is the future of Kosovo, it is the seperatists who should be worried.

Olf

pre 15 godina

Terrorist are the ones that attack embassys, kill rape and burn people.

This action is taken by Milosevic alikes.
Thank god world knows what Serbian authorities are capable to do.

No no, no way Jose.

Eric (USA)

pre 15 godina

The Kosovo Albanians should not forget that the UNSCR 1244 allows for Serbian MUP units (and military units under MUP control) to operate in Kosovo. If Serbian populations come under heavy attacks it is possible that the UN will give Serbia the green light to send its military back into Kosovo, particularly in the north.

Jan Andersen, DK

pre 15 godina

I hope these will soon learn that tracing an e-mail is not technical difficult. The difficult part is getting the law enforcements in different countries to work together, but the magic word here "Terrorists!" and suddenly there will be warrants galore to subpoena IP addresses and the persons behind them.
--

Diana

pre 15 godina

Let's hope this statement ends up on the worlds news sites- it may give some insight into what the Serbs had to put up. Lets see how long the Germans and others support them now!!! The USA and much of the EU have made this mess- lets sit back and enjoy watching them sort it out. When British troops went to N Ireland they were welcomed by the Catholics- it soon turned sour and I expect Kosovo Albanian supporters will soon see the error of their ways!! The Americans will soon be hiding in Bondsteel saying how wonderful and democratic Kosovo is without ever going outside!!!

Ratko

pre 15 godina

This is who Serbia tried to protect it citizens from. And can you imagine, Serbia ended up being portrayed as the evildoer by american propaganda! SHAME!

ZK

pre 15 godina

I really do wonder when the US will finally learn. It once supported Al Qaeda only to have a major terroritst attack on its soil. It also supported the KLA and now there are terrorist threats once again.

You simply cannot support or appease terrorists as they do not understand the concept of compromise.

To tell you the truth, some of the comments from team Albania here are also appalling. They are calling for arms if they don't get their way.

Learn to compromise and all should be fine.

surprised?

pre 15 godina

As much as I would like to say that this surprised me, somehow, deep down inside it doesn't.
“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,”: is a very stricking comment.
However, I would be surprised if the exremely natioanlist pro-albanian poster on this would stand up to defend this behaviour.
This act and subsequent threats are not acceptable in the modern age, in a country (or let me say so called country -- moreover a US-puppet state) that claims to be the only truely multi-ethnic part of the balkans, and a model to follow, I wonder how it can be that these things can happen.
Also, it seems that the Kosovar Government might be trying to figure out how to cleans the egg off of their faces. I hope that they learn to say "I am deeply sorry for my mistake" in Deutsch. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting.
German Secret service indeed... Kosovo's magnificent policing and ivestigative forces certainly dropped the ball here.
How on earth does the world and the Kosovar government plan on explaining how they would go about protecting the minorities in this fledgling wish-to-be-nation, when it can allow this sort of organization to flourish in its underbelly?
I certainly hope that the Kosovar leadership is truely removed from this terrorist group, but somehow I suspect that this is just the logical extension of the KLA, and that the government is fully apprised by their actions and goings on.
How on earth do they expect to join the club when they're attacking it?
Please, wake up and civilize your people before anything worse happens. Moderates, I'm talking to you here. Please shake some sense into your nationalist, your etremists, you haters. Both sides please. This nonesense is getting old and tiring.
In the end when you're all EU slaves, it won't matter who owns what country/land or not. Brussels will always tell you what to do, when to jump and how high.
You're only fighting to preserve the fight now. You've both made it clear that you wish to assend to the EU. Once there, you'll be left with very few descisions of your own to make. Everything will be settled and controlled for you. Neither of you, or for that matter and country in the Balkans is large enough, powerful enough, wealthy enough to stand up to UK, France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Spain,... should I go on...?

veki

pre 15 godina

now we are talking the same old story again. What K-Albanians can't accomplish by force and threats will get compensated
by accomplishment by indulging in physical violence.
UN must understand that there is no way for a non-albanian person to ever live peacefully in a country ruled by Albanians.

Maks

pre 15 godina

“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,” the organization stated in its e-mail, adding that severed Serb heads would be sent to Serbian politicians.

Excelent Milosevic propoganda.

Ratko

pre 15 godina

This is who Serbia tried to protect it citizens from. And can you imagine, Serbia ended up being portrayed as the evildoer by american propaganda! SHAME!

veki

pre 15 godina

now we are talking the same old story again. What K-Albanians can't accomplish by force and threats will get compensated
by accomplishment by indulging in physical violence.
UN must understand that there is no way for a non-albanian person to ever live peacefully in a country ruled by Albanians.

ZK

pre 15 godina

I really do wonder when the US will finally learn. It once supported Al Qaeda only to have a major terroritst attack on its soil. It also supported the KLA and now there are terrorist threats once again.

You simply cannot support or appease terrorists as they do not understand the concept of compromise.

To tell you the truth, some of the comments from team Albania here are also appalling. They are calling for arms if they don't get their way.

Learn to compromise and all should be fine.

Maks

pre 15 godina

“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,” the organization stated in its e-mail, adding that severed Serb heads would be sent to Serbian politicians.

Excelent Milosevic propoganda.

surprised?

pre 15 godina

As much as I would like to say that this surprised me, somehow, deep down inside it doesn't.
“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,”: is a very stricking comment.
However, I would be surprised if the exremely natioanlist pro-albanian poster on this would stand up to defend this behaviour.
This act and subsequent threats are not acceptable in the modern age, in a country (or let me say so called country -- moreover a US-puppet state) that claims to be the only truely multi-ethnic part of the balkans, and a model to follow, I wonder how it can be that these things can happen.
Also, it seems that the Kosovar Government might be trying to figure out how to cleans the egg off of their faces. I hope that they learn to say "I am deeply sorry for my mistake" in Deutsch. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting.
German Secret service indeed... Kosovo's magnificent policing and ivestigative forces certainly dropped the ball here.
How on earth does the world and the Kosovar government plan on explaining how they would go about protecting the minorities in this fledgling wish-to-be-nation, when it can allow this sort of organization to flourish in its underbelly?
I certainly hope that the Kosovar leadership is truely removed from this terrorist group, but somehow I suspect that this is just the logical extension of the KLA, and that the government is fully apprised by their actions and goings on.
How on earth do they expect to join the club when they're attacking it?
Please, wake up and civilize your people before anything worse happens. Moderates, I'm talking to you here. Please shake some sense into your nationalist, your etremists, you haters. Both sides please. This nonesense is getting old and tiring.
In the end when you're all EU slaves, it won't matter who owns what country/land or not. Brussels will always tell you what to do, when to jump and how high.
You're only fighting to preserve the fight now. You've both made it clear that you wish to assend to the EU. Once there, you'll be left with very few descisions of your own to make. Everything will be settled and controlled for you. Neither of you, or for that matter and country in the Balkans is large enough, powerful enough, wealthy enough to stand up to UK, France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Spain,... should I go on...?

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

when a friend of mine saw this article he said that albanians commenting on this site would claim milosevic was campaigning against them from his grave. this makes the comment #1 here absolutely hilarious :)

Tim

pre 15 godina

It may be that foreign agents are behind this. See where this is going K albs? War crime investigations are ramping up, black ops conducted by foreign governments to discredit the "Kosovar". This whole aperatus that was directed against Serbia is now refocusing on you, the k albs. You don't have a chance.

Peggy

pre 15 godina

“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,” the organization stated in its e-mail, adding that severed Serb heads would be sent to Serbian politicians.

Excelent Milosevic propoganda.
(Maks, 27 November 2008 15:31)

Now you don't even believe your own. This was written by your people not Serbs. The Serbs obviously have proof of this like the email.

Keep this up and you are not going to be believed when you say your name.

Your first response is "This is Milosevic propaganda". For goodness sake, leave the dead alone for once. Everything you don't agree with becomes propaganda to you. Is Milosevic speaking to you from the grave?

Florin

pre 15 godina

Dear Serb posters

You are jumping up and down with joy at this great news story.

But think for a minute: Any person in the world can open a "personal" e-mail account, and email whomever he wants and claim to be whatever he wants to be. Until there is some hard evidence that there is anything viable behind this email, I think you are jumping to conclusions a bit prematurely. Then again, its Albanians you are dealing with, so if its bad then it must be true.

Eric (USA)

pre 15 godina

The Kosovo Albanians should not forget that the UNSCR 1244 allows for Serbian MUP units (and military units under MUP control) to operate in Kosovo. If Serbian populations come under heavy attacks it is possible that the UN will give Serbia the green light to send its military back into Kosovo, particularly in the north.

Diana

pre 15 godina

Let's hope this statement ends up on the worlds news sites- it may give some insight into what the Serbs had to put up. Lets see how long the Germans and others support them now!!! The USA and much of the EU have made this mess- lets sit back and enjoy watching them sort it out. When British troops went to N Ireland they were welcomed by the Catholics- it soon turned sour and I expect Kosovo Albanian supporters will soon see the error of their ways!! The Americans will soon be hiding in Bondsteel saying how wonderful and democratic Kosovo is without ever going outside!!!

Goran

pre 15 godina

Hahahahaha. This is the best thing i've heard this week.

What a joke! I mean, come on, now to think that they can keep doing this? The second something doesn't go there way, s@#$ hits the fan, and threats are as abundant as their common sense. I would like to see them try. Either the UN/KFOR peace keepers will wipe them out, followed by serbian army intervention; or even when eulex takes over, they'll get wiped out, and the serbian army will step in.

TS

pre 15 godina

It is shameful that Milosevic wasn't sentenced for his crimes against humaity, but he's dead. And the dead don't speak. In particular, the dead doesn't create propaganda.

This is just the pretext to what I have predicted all the time: renewed unrest in Kosovo. Some K. Alb are now seeing their living standards fall, and they respond just like they usually do, with violence, threats, and barbary.

At the moment, the fall in living standards isn't widespread, and the imagionation of independence and self-rule is still maintained.

But that won't last. The drop in living standards will be considerable as remmittances dry up, as Camp Bondsteel has to start saving money, and as EULEX will start a crack down on organized crime. Finally, Kosovo's supporters won't have so much money to spare, so the aid funds will drop as well.

Them this will be an everyday event. Violence will return, and some kind of crack-down is inevitable. Partitioning of Kosovo is not ruled out, and Serbian influence in the enclaves will be stronger.

It's a phony country, with a phony leadership, phony economy, and phony stability. It won't last for long.

The Swiss

pre 15 godina

Check the IP address, I bet it's from Germany :)

German media reported this 'threat' first.
(Albanez, 27 November 2008 16:51)

what another great statement of yours, I would have expected that you would accuse again the Serbs, maybe the German were paid by the Serbs....think about it!

As a matter of fact, none of us should be surprised by this, big snake has left a lot of orphan snakes around looking for some job again!

I so much understand now why none of the k-albanians based in Switzerland have ANY WISH AT ALL to return. I always found it very selfish but I would say now, very wise...

bganon

pre 15 godina

This is something of a development.
I must admit to being absolutely astonished that the Germans were arrested, if there was not sufficient evidence, or if they had nothing to do with it. Even if they did it, it was a very risky move.

That kind of action can easily cause a diplomatic incident right at the time when Kosovo Albanians need international allies.

'Moderates, I'm talking to you here. Please shake some sense into your nationalist, your etremists, you haters. Both sides please. This nonesense is getting old and tiring. '

Its not that simple from a Serbian perspective, not until recently in any case. Much of Serbian extremism is caused by prior experience, it will take a while to undo, but if things continue as they are I predict the extreme opinion will melt away, leaving a smaller rump of uber right wingers. Conversely I'm afraid we will likely witness more Albanian nationalist extremism.

I don't think its any accident that in the last couple of days extreme opinions have been not been expressed as much.

Jan Andersen, DK

pre 15 godina

I hope these will soon learn that tracing an e-mail is not technical difficult. The difficult part is getting the law enforcements in different countries to work together, but the magic word here "Terrorists!" and suddenly there will be warrants galore to subpoena IP addresses and the persons behind them.
--

Olf

pre 15 godina

Terrorist are the ones that attack embassys, kill rape and burn people.

This action is taken by Milosevic alikes.
Thank god world knows what Serbian authorities are capable to do.

No no, no way Jose.

marKo

pre 15 godina

whomever wrote the email is probably an incompotent failure; full of hate but not smart or brave enough to accomplish anything.

Why should he build something to help his town or people when it is easier to doll out electronic threats.

If this is the future of Kosovo, it is the seperatists who should be worried.

ben

pre 15 godina

A new group asuumes reposnsbilty- BND agents sent free, from risking 20-40 years of jail (as from Kosova's laws) for terrorist attacks- case closed- everyone is happy...except the truth that we will nver know...

Mark Jaho

pre 15 godina

Ratko @ comment#6:

This tactic on the part of the Serbs is nothing new. Making up imaginary threats is just another childish Serb prank. NATO has been aware of this Serb practice since the early 1990's. The IP address is being checked, as we speak, against others of this type.

Shades of "organ harvesting"! This is just another unfortunate and embarrassing stunt by the Serbs. Recall the fake photos of severed Serb heads that was blamed on the Croats during 1992, then they blamed the Bosnians and finally the very same doctored photos was used as "evidence" against the Albanians.

Dardan

pre 15 godina

You guys are so Funny, SERBIA and THE NEWS where always ridiculous, this news is such a propaganda for serbs, may be thats why they think they are so right because they dont know what is realy going one just because of your crazy news coming out of nowere just to brainwash people.

Learn More for Reality in Kosovo people.

Peja

pre 15 godina

Army of the Republic of Kosovo is the 'camoflage' name for a small group of individual in the pay of a senior Pristina government official (I wont write his name here and cause B92 trouble) who wants UNMIK, EULEX and all Serbs out of Kosovo.

Germans were very close to establishing evidences linking bombing to that official. They were arrested to prevent that evidence being made to public.

Where are all the Albanian posters who were praising the KPS for catching the Germans and saying they were working for the Serbs?

Canadian

pre 15 godina

Pure nonsense! The bombing was done by the Germans. This is Germany's way of trying to get out of a tricky position. The Germans prefer tension in Kosovo and when ever things settle down they will always try to mix it up and blame the Serbs or Albanians.

Germany should be kicked out of Kosovo for what they did, both the Albanians and Serbs to stand together on this issue!

Joe (not Serb)

pre 15 godina

This was a false flag operation that went wrong and now some 'new' group is invented to claim responsibility and to save the three German agents.
Was the attack executed so to put the blame on the Serbs?
Or was it done to put the K-Albanians in a bad daylight?

The UN, notably Ban Ki Moon, is against the Eulex taking over in Kosovo completely. Ban Ki Moon had Artishari investigated for corruption allegations against him (the charge was that Artisari was bribed by the K-Albanians to recognize Kosovo as an indepent state). You know who Ban Ki Moon allegedly ordered to investigate Artisari? The German secret service BND.

Things are cooking in the Balkans again. There is fishy stuff going on.

roberto

pre 15 godina

First of all, today is our thanksgiving, so i wish to extend best wishes to all, regardless of ethnicity, "race," religion (or lack thereof), politics, gender, marital status, sexual preference, age (i'm running out.) here, we try to be inclusive, even to excess...

as for this nice "news" article (no quotes on that) -- what year is this? please god someone remind me what year this is, because i know that EXACtly such articles were very popular in the late 80s/ early 90s, and they were very effective as scaring the hell out of people, and how shall i say it, putting them in the mood for the "fun" to come. Know what i mean?

and then the part about "Heads will roll..." i mean i'm not sure whether to be horrified or if i'm watching an old rerun of "Hogan's Heroes": "Hogan -- You follow our orders or Heads will Roll!!"

the truth is if i published one tiny fraction of the DAILY threats and curses against my people (jews), bogus or otherwise, and broadcast such threats as though they were an imminent reality, then probably every jew around the world would run/swim to Israel or at least take up a gun to defend themselves and their families...

it is called "fanning the flames" and i have never seen it done with such finesse and earnestness...

roberto
robertoruss@yahoo.com

milan

pre 15 godina

Your first response is "This is Milosevic propaganda". For goodness sake, leave the dead alone for once. Everything you don't agree with becomes propaganda to you. Is Milosevic speaking to you from the grave?
(Peggy, 28 November 2008 00:17)

You're out of order there. Its actually one of the greatest K-Albanian military victories in the 21st century

http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/savich/savich9.html

dd

pre 15 godina

I don't understand some Albanian posters here (Alban, EA, Maks,Olf, miri, lili, Ilir etc.).
They promised in last couple of days that it will never happen that they will accept Belgrade-UN Six Point Plan and that will never work for Albanians in Kosovo - we're indjependent - 95% etc. - with vigorous threats. And they said - if that happen that means WAR. That's what above mentioned posters exactly said.

And now - what's unexpected here - just logical results of above threats and frustration - remember last week demonstration against Balgrade-UN six point plan.
Hundred thousands were protesting and promising it will never be accepted and it can't be forced on Albanians - including same Thaci and Sejdiu.

Some did what they say and promised to do. Others denied and blame Slobo and his propaganda and some on this side turned back to say - accepting Six Point Plan is the best thing that happen to Kosova - indjependence they had before yesterday is nothing - this one from today and forever is even bigger, newer and ...Please make your mind, back-up your previous thoughts and be consistent.

Abi Karmadhi

pre 15 godina

I am very suprised at b92 for using the name of KP Spokespearson Veton Elshani. How is possible that Veton elshani has told this story to b92, and left out Kosova media in general. Any explonation b92?

Jovan

pre 15 godina

"Well, b92, look at this, [link]

they denounced it...actually saying serbia secret police did it..
(Jovan, 28 November 2008 20:24)"


I´d like to emphasize that the albanian kid, who is pasting links to some albanian yellow-papers under the nick-name "Jovan" has nothing to do with me.

actually it´s a sign of weakness if one feels the need to use other poeple´s names in here.

so, to this kid personally: go and get yourself some other "name", thanks a lot, though.

Maks

pre 15 godina

“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,” the organization stated in its e-mail, adding that severed Serb heads would be sent to Serbian politicians.

Excelent Milosevic propoganda.

Dardan

pre 15 godina

You guys are so Funny, SERBIA and THE NEWS where always ridiculous, this news is such a propaganda for serbs, may be thats why they think they are so right because they dont know what is realy going one just because of your crazy news coming out of nowere just to brainwash people.

Learn More for Reality in Kosovo people.

Olf

pre 15 godina

Terrorist are the ones that attack embassys, kill rape and burn people.

This action is taken by Milosevic alikes.
Thank god world knows what Serbian authorities are capable to do.

No no, no way Jose.

Ratko

pre 15 godina

This is who Serbia tried to protect it citizens from. And can you imagine, Serbia ended up being portrayed as the evildoer by american propaganda! SHAME!

Mark Jaho

pre 15 godina

Ratko @ comment#6:

This tactic on the part of the Serbs is nothing new. Making up imaginary threats is just another childish Serb prank. NATO has been aware of this Serb practice since the early 1990's. The IP address is being checked, as we speak, against others of this type.

Shades of "organ harvesting"! This is just another unfortunate and embarrassing stunt by the Serbs. Recall the fake photos of severed Serb heads that was blamed on the Croats during 1992, then they blamed the Bosnians and finally the very same doctored photos was used as "evidence" against the Albanians.

ZK

pre 15 godina

I really do wonder when the US will finally learn. It once supported Al Qaeda only to have a major terroritst attack on its soil. It also supported the KLA and now there are terrorist threats once again.

You simply cannot support or appease terrorists as they do not understand the concept of compromise.

To tell you the truth, some of the comments from team Albania here are also appalling. They are calling for arms if they don't get their way.

Learn to compromise and all should be fine.

veki

pre 15 godina

now we are talking the same old story again. What K-Albanians can't accomplish by force and threats will get compensated
by accomplishment by indulging in physical violence.
UN must understand that there is no way for a non-albanian person to ever live peacefully in a country ruled by Albanians.

Florin

pre 15 godina

Dear Serb posters

You are jumping up and down with joy at this great news story.

But think for a minute: Any person in the world can open a "personal" e-mail account, and email whomever he wants and claim to be whatever he wants to be. Until there is some hard evidence that there is anything viable behind this email, I think you are jumping to conclusions a bit prematurely. Then again, its Albanians you are dealing with, so if its bad then it must be true.

Jan Andersen, DK

pre 15 godina

I hope these will soon learn that tracing an e-mail is not technical difficult. The difficult part is getting the law enforcements in different countries to work together, but the magic word here "Terrorists!" and suddenly there will be warrants galore to subpoena IP addresses and the persons behind them.
--

roberto

pre 15 godina

First of all, today is our thanksgiving, so i wish to extend best wishes to all, regardless of ethnicity, "race," religion (or lack thereof), politics, gender, marital status, sexual preference, age (i'm running out.) here, we try to be inclusive, even to excess...

as for this nice "news" article (no quotes on that) -- what year is this? please god someone remind me what year this is, because i know that EXACtly such articles were very popular in the late 80s/ early 90s, and they were very effective as scaring the hell out of people, and how shall i say it, putting them in the mood for the "fun" to come. Know what i mean?

and then the part about "Heads will roll..." i mean i'm not sure whether to be horrified or if i'm watching an old rerun of "Hogan's Heroes": "Hogan -- You follow our orders or Heads will Roll!!"

the truth is if i published one tiny fraction of the DAILY threats and curses against my people (jews), bogus or otherwise, and broadcast such threats as though they were an imminent reality, then probably every jew around the world would run/swim to Israel or at least take up a gun to defend themselves and their families...

it is called "fanning the flames" and i have never seen it done with such finesse and earnestness...

roberto
robertoruss@yahoo.com

Peggy

pre 15 godina

“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,” the organization stated in its e-mail, adding that severed Serb heads would be sent to Serbian politicians.

Excelent Milosevic propoganda.
(Maks, 27 November 2008 15:31)

Now you don't even believe your own. This was written by your people not Serbs. The Serbs obviously have proof of this like the email.

Keep this up and you are not going to be believed when you say your name.

Your first response is "This is Milosevic propaganda". For goodness sake, leave the dead alone for once. Everything you don't agree with becomes propaganda to you. Is Milosevic speaking to you from the grave?

surprised?

pre 15 godina

As much as I would like to say that this surprised me, somehow, deep down inside it doesn't.
“As long as the UN plan is in force, we will attack with full might and there will be no security for Serbs that live in Kosovo,”: is a very stricking comment.
However, I would be surprised if the exremely natioanlist pro-albanian poster on this would stand up to defend this behaviour.
This act and subsequent threats are not acceptable in the modern age, in a country (or let me say so called country -- moreover a US-puppet state) that claims to be the only truely multi-ethnic part of the balkans, and a model to follow, I wonder how it can be that these things can happen.
Also, it seems that the Kosovar Government might be trying to figure out how to cleans the egg off of their faces. I hope that they learn to say "I am deeply sorry for my mistake" in Deutsch. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting.
German Secret service indeed... Kosovo's magnificent policing and ivestigative forces certainly dropped the ball here.
How on earth does the world and the Kosovar government plan on explaining how they would go about protecting the minorities in this fledgling wish-to-be-nation, when it can allow this sort of organization to flourish in its underbelly?
I certainly hope that the Kosovar leadership is truely removed from this terrorist group, but somehow I suspect that this is just the logical extension of the KLA, and that the government is fully apprised by their actions and goings on.
How on earth do they expect to join the club when they're attacking it?
Please, wake up and civilize your people before anything worse happens. Moderates, I'm talking to you here. Please shake some sense into your nationalist, your etremists, you haters. Both sides please. This nonesense is getting old and tiring.
In the end when you're all EU slaves, it won't matter who owns what country/land or not. Brussels will always tell you what to do, when to jump and how high.
You're only fighting to preserve the fight now. You've both made it clear that you wish to assend to the EU. Once there, you'll be left with very few descisions of your own to make. Everything will be settled and controlled for you. Neither of you, or for that matter and country in the Balkans is large enough, powerful enough, wealthy enough to stand up to UK, France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Spain,... should I go on...?

Canadian

pre 15 godina

Pure nonsense! The bombing was done by the Germans. This is Germany's way of trying to get out of a tricky position. The Germans prefer tension in Kosovo and when ever things settle down they will always try to mix it up and blame the Serbs or Albanians.

Germany should be kicked out of Kosovo for what they did, both the Albanians and Serbs to stand together on this issue!

Goran

pre 15 godina

Hahahahaha. This is the best thing i've heard this week.

What a joke! I mean, come on, now to think that they can keep doing this? The second something doesn't go there way, s@#$ hits the fan, and threats are as abundant as their common sense. I would like to see them try. Either the UN/KFOR peace keepers will wipe them out, followed by serbian army intervention; or even when eulex takes over, they'll get wiped out, and the serbian army will step in.

Tim

pre 15 godina

It may be that foreign agents are behind this. See where this is going K albs? War crime investigations are ramping up, black ops conducted by foreign governments to discredit the "Kosovar". This whole aperatus that was directed against Serbia is now refocusing on you, the k albs. You don't have a chance.

TS

pre 15 godina

It is shameful that Milosevic wasn't sentenced for his crimes against humaity, but he's dead. And the dead don't speak. In particular, the dead doesn't create propaganda.

This is just the pretext to what I have predicted all the time: renewed unrest in Kosovo. Some K. Alb are now seeing their living standards fall, and they respond just like they usually do, with violence, threats, and barbary.

At the moment, the fall in living standards isn't widespread, and the imagionation of independence and self-rule is still maintained.

But that won't last. The drop in living standards will be considerable as remmittances dry up, as Camp Bondsteel has to start saving money, and as EULEX will start a crack down on organized crime. Finally, Kosovo's supporters won't have so much money to spare, so the aid funds will drop as well.

Them this will be an everyday event. Violence will return, and some kind of crack-down is inevitable. Partitioning of Kosovo is not ruled out, and Serbian influence in the enclaves will be stronger.

It's a phony country, with a phony leadership, phony economy, and phony stability. It won't last for long.

Diana

pre 15 godina

Let's hope this statement ends up on the worlds news sites- it may give some insight into what the Serbs had to put up. Lets see how long the Germans and others support them now!!! The USA and much of the EU have made this mess- lets sit back and enjoy watching them sort it out. When British troops went to N Ireland they were welcomed by the Catholics- it soon turned sour and I expect Kosovo Albanian supporters will soon see the error of their ways!! The Americans will soon be hiding in Bondsteel saying how wonderful and democratic Kosovo is without ever going outside!!!

bganon

pre 15 godina

This is something of a development.
I must admit to being absolutely astonished that the Germans were arrested, if there was not sufficient evidence, or if they had nothing to do with it. Even if they did it, it was a very risky move.

That kind of action can easily cause a diplomatic incident right at the time when Kosovo Albanians need international allies.

'Moderates, I'm talking to you here. Please shake some sense into your nationalist, your etremists, you haters. Both sides please. This nonesense is getting old and tiring. '

Its not that simple from a Serbian perspective, not until recently in any case. Much of Serbian extremism is caused by prior experience, it will take a while to undo, but if things continue as they are I predict the extreme opinion will melt away, leaving a smaller rump of uber right wingers. Conversely I'm afraid we will likely witness more Albanian nationalist extremism.

I don't think its any accident that in the last couple of days extreme opinions have been not been expressed as much.

Eric (USA)

pre 15 godina

The Kosovo Albanians should not forget that the UNSCR 1244 allows for Serbian MUP units (and military units under MUP control) to operate in Kosovo. If Serbian populations come under heavy attacks it is possible that the UN will give Serbia the green light to send its military back into Kosovo, particularly in the north.

malcolm x

pre 15 godina

when a friend of mine saw this article he said that albanians commenting on this site would claim milosevic was campaigning against them from his grave. this makes the comment #1 here absolutely hilarious :)

Joe (not Serb)

pre 15 godina

This was a false flag operation that went wrong and now some 'new' group is invented to claim responsibility and to save the three German agents.
Was the attack executed so to put the blame on the Serbs?
Or was it done to put the K-Albanians in a bad daylight?

The UN, notably Ban Ki Moon, is against the Eulex taking over in Kosovo completely. Ban Ki Moon had Artishari investigated for corruption allegations against him (the charge was that Artisari was bribed by the K-Albanians to recognize Kosovo as an indepent state). You know who Ban Ki Moon allegedly ordered to investigate Artisari? The German secret service BND.

Things are cooking in the Balkans again. There is fishy stuff going on.

The Swiss

pre 15 godina

Check the IP address, I bet it's from Germany :)

German media reported this 'threat' first.
(Albanez, 27 November 2008 16:51)

what another great statement of yours, I would have expected that you would accuse again the Serbs, maybe the German were paid by the Serbs....think about it!

As a matter of fact, none of us should be surprised by this, big snake has left a lot of orphan snakes around looking for some job again!

I so much understand now why none of the k-albanians based in Switzerland have ANY WISH AT ALL to return. I always found it very selfish but I would say now, very wise...

marKo

pre 15 godina

whomever wrote the email is probably an incompotent failure; full of hate but not smart or brave enough to accomplish anything.

Why should he build something to help his town or people when it is easier to doll out electronic threats.

If this is the future of Kosovo, it is the seperatists who should be worried.

Abi Karmadhi

pre 15 godina

I am very suprised at b92 for using the name of KP Spokespearson Veton Elshani. How is possible that Veton elshani has told this story to b92, and left out Kosova media in general. Any explonation b92?

ben

pre 15 godina

A new group asuumes reposnsbilty- BND agents sent free, from risking 20-40 years of jail (as from Kosova's laws) for terrorist attacks- case closed- everyone is happy...except the truth that we will nver know...

milan

pre 15 godina

Your first response is "This is Milosevic propaganda". For goodness sake, leave the dead alone for once. Everything you don't agree with becomes propaganda to you. Is Milosevic speaking to you from the grave?
(Peggy, 28 November 2008 00:17)

You're out of order there. Its actually one of the greatest K-Albanian military victories in the 21st century

http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/savich/savich9.html

Peja

pre 15 godina

Army of the Republic of Kosovo is the 'camoflage' name for a small group of individual in the pay of a senior Pristina government official (I wont write his name here and cause B92 trouble) who wants UNMIK, EULEX and all Serbs out of Kosovo.

Germans were very close to establishing evidences linking bombing to that official. They were arrested to prevent that evidence being made to public.

Where are all the Albanian posters who were praising the KPS for catching the Germans and saying they were working for the Serbs?

dd

pre 15 godina

I don't understand some Albanian posters here (Alban, EA, Maks,Olf, miri, lili, Ilir etc.).
They promised in last couple of days that it will never happen that they will accept Belgrade-UN Six Point Plan and that will never work for Albanians in Kosovo - we're indjependent - 95% etc. - with vigorous threats. And they said - if that happen that means WAR. That's what above mentioned posters exactly said.

And now - what's unexpected here - just logical results of above threats and frustration - remember last week demonstration against Balgrade-UN six point plan.
Hundred thousands were protesting and promising it will never be accepted and it can't be forced on Albanians - including same Thaci and Sejdiu.

Some did what they say and promised to do. Others denied and blame Slobo and his propaganda and some on this side turned back to say - accepting Six Point Plan is the best thing that happen to Kosova - indjependence they had before yesterday is nothing - this one from today and forever is even bigger, newer and ...Please make your mind, back-up your previous thoughts and be consistent.

Jovan

pre 15 godina

"Well, b92, look at this, [link]

they denounced it...actually saying serbia secret police did it..
(Jovan, 28 November 2008 20:24)"


I´d like to emphasize that the albanian kid, who is pasting links to some albanian yellow-papers under the nick-name "Jovan" has nothing to do with me.

actually it´s a sign of weakness if one feels the need to use other poeple´s names in here.

so, to this kid personally: go and get yourself some other "name", thanks a lot, though.