Obama urges peace and stability in Kosovo

Come on and make a stand Obama! You need to say that the UN needs to be respected and that International Law is a priority, not only when it agrees with you. You had my vote, and if the only other option is Hillary or McCain you will get it, but Kosovo is part of Serbia until the UN says different.If the Security council can't agree, then either
1) The status quo remains or
2) The United Nations need to be disbanded and reorganized

Either way, it goes back to me saying 'Obama make a stronger issue of restoring America's foreign policy image to one of respect'

Oh, please Mr Obama, are you going to continue with peace and justice world wide the way that George Bush the Great visualized? Are you actually going to support and respect something illegal such as Kosovo status?

Mr Obama, so far, Americans were spreading their “democracy, peace and justice” establishment by dropping the bombs world wide, by killing the millions of people. Is that what you are going to support and continue where your predecessors stopped? I cannot hide my disappointment in you now! I hoped that at least you going to stay more neutral when it comes to America’s foreign policy. I guess you or Clinton does not make much difference after all.

Ahmet when will you understand taht "kosova" is just a little quasi state run by NATO/US created to support US world influence; in the Balkans. It has nothing to do with Serbs or Albanians.

What does that change? It means your "kosova" wont last a decade, guaranteed.

I think that Serbia's relationship with the US is a lost cause and I don't see that changing anytime soon, regardless of who wins the elections.

Obama may promote himself as some new guy with new ideas but he will likely be no different to any other candidate when it comes to foreign policy.

From recognition of states becoming independent from the Ottoman Empire to our days, I cannot think of a single president who reversed recognition of a state given by a previous president. Can anybody else recall such a precedent?
I don't think Obama will or can change much here.

bmrusila Obama was the only US candidate that opposed the war in Iraq. That might not seem like a big deal for us but in the US it was a huge deal after 9/11.

Obama will not reverse recognition of Kosovo but his administration would mean that everyone in the region will be given a fair hearing. One side will not be singled out. Thats as good as it gets.

If you think that having Holbrooke as state secretary is the same as having Obama in control then you have no understanding of US politics. There is a whole world of difference.

I don't think democrats have a chance to take over White House, because republicans have a much better and stroger candidate(McCain). But getting back to Kosova, no matter who wins the presidency in US the issue of Kosova state will not have any baring at all.

To all concerned: US support for Kosovo independence runs across partisan lines. Specifically, all three potential candidates supported Kosovo's declaration of independence.
The Kosovo precedent thus makes it clear to any tyrant or would-be tyrant out there that trampling over the rights of people will not be tolerated by the democratic world, even at the face of Soviet-like opposition.
But Serbian innovation at ethnic-cleansing and despicable propaganda waned at the face of globalization and mass media, when people of the free world saw first hand what was happening in the Balkans.

No, the US will not reverse its recognition of Kosovo's absolute dependence on them, but I think Obama will at least give ear to the Serb side, and maybe push for a Dayton-like model in Kosovo under the stipulations that no part may secede from the other. But at the very least, it removes Albanian interference from Serbian affairs.

One more thing I received this from SUC three days ago by email!

You have to wonder why Tanjug and the rest of the media are so slow to pick up on this.

Webber in response to your statement"Can anybody else recall such a precedent?
I don't think Obama will or can change much here.
(Webber, 4 March 2008 12:44)

You seem to forget that this is Unique Case and anything can happen. Yes! another precedent may be coming your way!

It doesn't matter which president wins, the US government is imperialistic and there is no need to represent the people. Therefore the US foreign policy is very unlineky to change so nothing will really change with regards to Kosovo.

Think about it... if you were the country with the biggest economy (albeit in recession now) and latest warfare technology, would you not want to expand or would you just sit quietly in your corner while other powers (Russia, China and India) begin to emerge. This is pretty natural behaviour for US or any dominant power at the time. US is doing whats right for US and only for US. Serbia just happened to be on their crosshairs now. But as history teaches us, Empires rise and fall and so will US. It will make a wrong move at some point and then someone else will take over.

hopefully he is smart enough not to let this be a thorn in his foreign policies considering he has nothing to gain from it. More countries have announced they will never recognise this quasi state then will ever recognise it. Including many EU nations. This is not only a big problem for Kosovo but the whole of international community. The fuse has been lit and Im assuming the detonation will be sometime during the switch of the US presidency. CCCC

There are reverse of US state recognition. Best known example is Taiwan.
Taiwan was UN member instead of mainland China.
Who are recognizing Taiwan today...
NDH, Independent State of Croatia were recognized from Germany and his satellites from 1941 / 1945.

It will happen with Kosovo fanny independence.

Hundreds of years there were not recognition of European state without biggest of them Russia.
West was again insolated in UN and SC. Representative of 70 % world population will newer recognizes Kosovo.

Belgrade is by centuries main European and world symbol of successfully antycolonial, anti- imperial anti-feudal anty- sovient, antsy- Nazi and now anty EU resistance.

Belgrade is place of first conference of nonaligned states.

World is fully aware and supportive of Belgrade “David “struggle, but every body fill that Belgrade will finally win as usually.

Belgrade destroyed Turkish, German, Russian, Austria-Hungary, Nazi emperors and help very much as founder of Non- aligned movement in destroying Stalin, British, French, Nederland colonial empires.

Most of them dreaming to humiliate Belgrade and to accuse only Belgrade of Balkan ethnic cleansing.

But it is very clear that Serbs were victims of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

European Union can accept Serbia. Serbia is in much better shape than corrupt Romania and Bulgaria.
Mladic can not be excuse for postponing in same way as arresting Barman were newer precondition for Germany to enter EU.
Martin Borman was second in Nazi command and Hitler official successor and convicted in Nirberg on death penalty.

Thirty years every week, somebody reported that Borman have been seen somewhere.

But he was killed hundreds of meters from Hitler bunker and just ten years ago DNK test of his remains confirmed that he was fifty years dead.

British wrote books, documenting that he was alive, same as for Mladic.

Otherwise Serbia will just forget EU, like China; South Korea, Japan, Australia,.We need to build trade with USA , Russia, China, India and fight for WTO anti trade barier mesure.
EU is just a obsolate protectionistic anti free trade pakt.
This is sign that EU can not compete in open free market market like China , Japan ,Australia, Russia, USA

We appeal again for continuation of negotiation to find solution acceptable for both sides.

Barack Hussein is a waste of a vote. A leader needs to be someone who is wise and has experience at leading, Barack doesn't fit either category.

Let's not forget that he takes money from Serbian and Greek lobbies, I mean donors.

In presidency if he thinks he can touch Kosova's independence he will get shocked quickly.

Let's not forget that he takes money from Serbian and Greek lobbies, I mean donors.

In presidency if he thinks he can touch Kosova's independence he will get shocked quickly.
(KS, 4 March 2008 16:02)

Obama has been winning only because he has pledged not to accept money from lobyist. The Serbo-Greek loby connections to Obama can be the end of Obama's aspirations. It would simply make him loose any hope of becoming president.
I also agree that Obama has already recognized Kosova's independence in his debate with Hilary. I do like Obama a lot. I hope he is not foolish enough to fall prey of serbian donations. For his own political future. It really does not matter who wins, both Obama and Hilary are good people, American patriaots and will simply do the right thing.

I don't think democrats have a chance to take over White House, because republicans have a much better and stroger candidate(McCain). But getting back to Kosova, no matter who wins the presidency in US the issue of Kosova state will not have any baring at all.

To all concerned: US support for Kosovo independence runs across partisan lines. Specifically, all three potential candidates supported Kosovo's declaration of independence.
The Kosovo precedent thus makes it clear to any tyrant or would-be tyrant out there that trampling over the rights of people will not be tolerated by the democratic world, even at the face of Soviet-like opposition.
But Serbian innovation at ethnic-cleansing and despicable propaganda waned at the face of globalization and mass media, when people of the free world saw first hand what was happening in the Balkans.

From recognition of states becoming independent from the Ottoman Empire to our days, I cannot think of a single president who reversed recognition of a state given by a previous president. Can anybody else recall such a precedent?
I don't think Obama will or can change much here.

Barack Hussein is a waste of a vote. A leader needs to be someone who is wise and has experience at leading, Barack doesn't fit either category.

Let's not forget that he takes money from Serbian and Greek lobbies, I mean donors.

In presidency if he thinks he can touch Kosova's independence he will get shocked quickly.

Let's not forget that he takes money from Serbian and Greek lobbies, I mean donors.

In presidency if he thinks he can touch Kosova's independence he will get shocked quickly.
(KS, 4 March 2008 16:02)

Obama has been winning only because he has pledged not to accept money from lobyist. The Serbo-Greek loby connections to Obama can be the end of Obama's aspirations. It would simply make him loose any hope of becoming president.
I also agree that Obama has already recognized Kosova's independence in his debate with Hilary. I do like Obama a lot. I hope he is not foolish enough to fall prey of serbian donations. For his own political future. It really does not matter who wins, both Obama and Hilary are good people, American patriaots and will simply do the right thing.

Oh, please Mr Obama, are you going to continue with peace and justice world wide the way that George Bush the Great visualized? Are you actually going to support and respect something illegal such as Kosovo status?

Mr Obama, so far, Americans were spreading their “democracy, peace and justice” establishment by dropping the bombs world wide, by killing the millions of people. Is that what you are going to support and continue where your predecessors stopped? I cannot hide my disappointment in you now! I hoped that at least you going to stay more neutral when it comes to America’s foreign policy. I guess you or Clinton does not make much difference after all.

Come on and make a stand Obama! You need to say that the UN needs to be respected and that International Law is a priority, not only when it agrees with you. You had my vote, and if the only other option is Hillary or McCain you will get it, but Kosovo is part of Serbia until the UN says different.If the Security council can't agree, then either
1) The status quo remains or
2) The United Nations need to be disbanded and reorganized

Either way, it goes back to me saying 'Obama make a stronger issue of restoring America's foreign policy image to one of respect'

bmrusila Obama was the only US candidate that opposed the war in Iraq. That might not seem like a big deal for us but in the US it was a huge deal after 9/11.

Obama will not reverse recognition of Kosovo but his administration would mean that everyone in the region will be given a fair hearing. One side will not be singled out. Thats as good as it gets.

If you think that having Holbrooke as state secretary is the same as having Obama in control then you have no understanding of US politics. There is a whole world of difference.

One more thing I received this from SUC three days ago by email!

You have to wonder why Tanjug and the rest of the media are so slow to pick up on this.

Ahmet when will you understand taht "kosova" is just a little quasi state run by NATO/US created to support US world influence; in the Balkans. It has nothing to do with Serbs or Albanians.

What does that change? It means your "kosova" wont last a decade, guaranteed.

I think that Serbia's relationship with the US is a lost cause and I don't see that changing anytime soon, regardless of who wins the elections.

Obama may promote himself as some new guy with new ideas but he will likely be no different to any other candidate when it comes to foreign policy.

No, the US will not reverse its recognition of Kosovo's absolute dependence on them, but I think Obama will at least give ear to the Serb side, and maybe push for a Dayton-like model in Kosovo under the stipulations that no part may secede from the other. But at the very least, it removes Albanian interference from Serbian affairs.

There are reverse of US state recognition. Best known example is Taiwan.
Taiwan was UN member instead of mainland China.
Who are recognizing Taiwan today...
NDH, Independent State of Croatia were recognized from Germany and his satellites from 1941 / 1945.

It will happen with Kosovo fanny independence.

Hundreds of years there were not recognition of European state without biggest of them Russia.
West was again insolated in UN and SC. Representative of 70 % world population will newer recognizes Kosovo.

Belgrade is by centuries main European and world symbol of successfully antycolonial, anti- imperial anti-feudal anty- sovient, antsy- Nazi and now anty EU resistance.

Belgrade is place of first conference of nonaligned states.

World is fully aware and supportive of Belgrade “David “struggle, but every body fill that Belgrade will finally win as usually.

Belgrade destroyed Turkish, German, Russian, Austria-Hungary, Nazi emperors and help very much as founder of Non- aligned movement in destroying Stalin, British, French, Nederland colonial empires.

Most of them dreaming to humiliate Belgrade and to accuse only Belgrade of Balkan ethnic cleansing.

But it is very clear that Serbs were victims of ethnic cleansing and genocide.

European Union can accept Serbia. Serbia is in much better shape than corrupt Romania and Bulgaria.
Mladic can not be excuse for postponing in same way as arresting Barman were newer precondition for Germany to enter EU.
Martin Borman was second in Nazi command and Hitler official successor and convicted in Nirberg on death penalty.

Thirty years every week, somebody reported that Borman have been seen somewhere.

But he was killed hundreds of meters from Hitler bunker and just ten years ago DNK test of his remains confirmed that he was fifty years dead.

British wrote books, documenting that he was alive, same as for Mladic.

Otherwise Serbia will just forget EU, like China; South Korea, Japan, Australia,.We need to build trade with USA , Russia, China, India and fight for WTO anti trade barier mesure.
EU is just a obsolate protectionistic anti free trade pakt.
This is sign that EU can not compete in open free market market like China , Japan ,Australia, Russia, USA

We appeal again for continuation of negotiation to find solution acceptable for both sides.

It doesn't matter which president wins, the US government is imperialistic and there is no need to represent the people. Therefore the US foreign policy is very unlineky to change so nothing will really change with regards to Kosovo.

Think about it... if you were the country with the biggest economy (albeit in recession now) and latest warfare technology, would you not want to expand or would you just sit quietly in your corner while other powers (Russia, China and India) begin to emerge. This is pretty natural behaviour for US or any dominant power at the time. US is doing whats right for US and only for US. Serbia just happened to be on their crosshairs now. But as history teaches us, Empires rise and fall and so will US. It will make a wrong move at some point and then someone else will take over.

Webber in response to your statement"Can anybody else recall such a precedent?
I don't think Obama will or can change much here.
(Webber, 4 March 2008 12:44)

You seem to forget that this is Unique Case and anything can happen. Yes! another precedent may be coming your way!

hopefully he is smart enough not to let this be a thorn in his foreign policies considering he has nothing to gain from it. More countries have announced they will never recognise this quasi state then will ever recognise it. Including many EU nations. This is not only a big problem for Kosovo but the whole of international community. The fuse has been lit and Im assuming the detonation will be sometime during the switch of the US presidency. CCCC