Kosovo recognition: Afghanistan first, France, U.S. follow

Interesting connection - No.1 country to recognise No.1 Heroin trafficking country is the No.1 Heroin producing country. Coincidence?

ahh Afghanistan, that bastion of democracy, liberalism, women's rights, and freedom of religion.

If Kosovo turns out like Afghanistan is actually might be an improvement.

Would this be the puppet government installed by the Americans? Has anyone asked Mullah Omar?

No.1 country to recognise No.1 Heroin trafficking country is the No.1 Heroin producing country. Coincidence?
(VD, 18 February 2008 17:18)

Now make up your mind. If Kosovo is the no.1 trafficking country, and if this heroin is produced at Afghanistan on the east, it means that the heroin in Kosovo is trafficked from some eastern country on its border, right? So, also this border country should be the no. 1 trafficking country. I guess, which is this country? Hmmm? Have any idea?

@ Mikel: hmmm tricky question...let me think...does it belong with A? ALBANIA!

The first one to recognise a joke nation is....(drums) is a puppet government installed by the americans! Guys this is a comedy show!

Looks like the American puppeteers are busy today! Afghanistan first to recognise, now that is funny!

One puppeteer to the next.

OK puppets, now follow Afghanistan's lead!

Thankyou Afganistan for you support and cosideration,we appreciate it much. May your country enjoy peace and prosperity in a democratic form of government.Long live freedom and our future friendship,once again THANKYOU.

It seems perfectly appropriate for the US puppet-state of Afghanistan to be the first to recognise the US puppet-state of KosovA. It is all the more appropriate given that the Kosovo Albanians are the main distributors for Afghanistan’s heroin production.

As for the French, I think it is about time Serbia reappraised its historic “friendship” with France. The French were once allies, but they are now Serbia’s enemies.

Paris Street (next to Kalemegdan) should be renamed, as should France Street (Francuska).

Any country that recognises the Albanian land grab in Kosovo is Serbia’s enemy.

Republic of Kosova !!!

Thank you Afghanistan, the Kosovar people wish for you the best.

Thanks Afghanistan!

It was natural,only countries that had suffered so much under the foreing tyrany like Afghanistan,can truly understand the Kosovar struggle and aspirations.

thanks again!

Also independence for Corsica, Wales, Scotland, the Basque Republic (with aprts of Spain and France), California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas!

VD, you are wrong. Afghanistan is No.1 OPIUM producing country.

Kosovo produces Heroin from Afghan opium.

I'm not spiteful so I wont say anything nasty, but in all honesty I think Kosovo Albanians would have hoped for a different country to be the first to recognise.

Oh well.

Thank you Afghanistan, France, Britain, Germany, Italy for recognizing the Republic of Kosova!
Much love to our great friend G.W. Bush who announced USA's recognition from Tanzania, even before the State Department had a chance to do so.

Also much love to Ireland, Finland, Poland, Switzerland, and the Netherlands, all of whom indicated swift recognition in the next two days.

This list will grow, and I intend to thank each country one by one.

NATO must be very happy now that it has millions of grateful Albanian men to join and fight on its behalf against the people of Afghanistan.Or on the other hand this will enable even closer cooperation between NATO/KLA and Afghan drug runners to supply the youth of Europe with their much needed daily highs.

RE: Thank you to the countries who recognize pseudo-lllegal banana republic of Kosovo.

(1) Greece
(2) Cyprus
(3) Romania
(4) Bulgaria
(5) Slovakia
(6) Spain

2-5 G-8 countries will not support the illegal declaration, Canada will not endorse the agreement for fear of Quebec Seperation.

Russia is fully on board and against the illegal declaration of Kosovo.

Afghanistan has not choice but to endorse the illegal declaration of Kosovo, they are a protectorate of the US, the same as Kosovo.

To the editors of B-92, Hasim Thaci and Agim Ceku and who were members of the terrorist organizations of the KLA and UCK .


The United States listed these organizations on the terrorist watch list. As such, no amount of censorship from B-92 can hide the fact that Kosovo is a terrorist state run by terrorist leaders who murdered Serbian, Albanian and Roma civilians.

In this moment I do not feel proud to be Italian! The puppet repubblic of Kosovo is out of law.
what happens if in the future Alto Adige or Padania decleare their indipendence?
Stupid politics!!!
You have not understood that the main objective of USA is create problems inside Europe so that they will keep being the "king of the world". USA do not care if the recognition of kosovo will take plenty of new problems and fight in Europe!!

It's only natural that Afganistan was the first country to recognize Kosovo. After all they are tied not just by religion or colonial integrity, but by business too. Who else is going to traffic all the herion from afganistan to EU and US?

Once again the US and the EU are interfering where they are not wanted. Sure there were Serb atrocities but we never hear about Albanian atrocities against their own, Serbs, Goran and Roma minorities. Why? - Because it did not and does not suit the US and their puppy dog followers. Might we expect to see California delare UDI after all the Latinos are out breeding WASP type Americans. Will the UK government agree to a similar state for Wales or Scotland (some might hope so)? To allow UDI without a UN resolution flies in the face of International law. Do not believe for one moment that the Albanians will protect Serb culture and heritage – just look at what happened in March 2004 – Serb Churches destroyed, Serb Villages destroyed and the Orthodox Cemetery in South Mitrovica desecrated beyond belief. Two wrongs have never made a right. I am ashamed to be British.

Spain has announced that it will never recognize Kosovo as an state, thereby it is virtually impossible for Kosovo to join the EU (alle members have to agree on that, and how can somebody agree if they don't recognize them).

Therefore welcome Kosovo to becoming the first state in Europe which is denied acces to the EU even before they apply for admittance.

Serbia, be glad you got rid off that maffia invested hell hole.

"No.1 country to recognise No.1 Heroin trafficking country is the No.1 Heroin producing country. Coincidence?
(VD, 18 February 2008 17:18)

Now make up your mind. If Kosovo is the no.1 trafficking country, and if this heroin is produced at Afghanistan on the east, it means that the heroin in Kosovo is trafficked from some eastern country on its border, right? So, also this border country should be the no. 1 trafficking country. I guess, which is this country? Hmmm? Have any idea?
(Mikel, 18 February 2008 17:39)"

A quick look at a world map show that in order to go from Afghanistan to Kosovo (and Albania and from there to Italy and the rest of Europe) one has to travel through Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria and FYR of Macedonia. I am sure that the writer of the article I am commenting on was referring to Serbia. Not this time. It is interesting that Europe allows Muslim countries to provide the drugs that destroy their children and their future. Well, Europe is also addicted to Middle East oil. This will haunt Europe for many generations and the only ones that benefit are the US and oil and drugs producing countries.

for the record as well:
Poland did not recognised so-called "idependence" of Kosovo so far (I trully hope it will never do this). Shall the gouverment do this, it will be an action totally against the will of hughe majority of my countrymans who, due to the opinion-polls of the biggest daily gazeta, in 80% strongly oppose such injustice.

Just for the record, Australia was the first to recognise the Republic of Kosovo.

Afghanistan under Hamid Kharzai is a different Afghanistan compared to Mullah Omar. Therefore thank you Afghanistan for recognizing us.
Afghanistan knows how bad it is ti be ruled under tyranny because they were under tyranny of Russia and then of Taliban but now they are in process of being a democratic country.
IT is really sad and shame that some people here make fun of Afghanistan, a country that has suffered so much. This shows what kind of people are the ones here that oppose Kosova's Independence.
Also, USA,France,Germany,England,Italy,Belgium, Turkey, Albania, Poland,Hungary and many more are countries that recognized us or in process of recognizing us within the next hours.
Therefore serbs do not try to make yourselves happy but rather live in the world of REALITY where KOSOVA is being recognized from countries all over the world.

No need to be recognises from Poorest Country's,for State of KosovA it's enought recognise from United States of America,Super-Power of Globe,Russia its not Democratic Country so nobody cares,even if they will recognise NOBODY Cares here in Republic of KosovA ! THANKY YOU FRANCE,GB,ITALY for Supporting Freedom ! Waiting for Other Countrys.

MFT wrote:

Just for the record, Australia was the first to recognise the Republic of Kosovo.

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Australia??? Where did that story come from? Do you think the Prime minister and his government woke up at 3am to recognise Kosovo? Haha, what a joke!

Afghanistan was the first to recognise Kosovo and it has been confirmed by other media. This puppet show is getting interesting.

Seems like the world is split. The new precedent is starting!

I'm not spiteful so I wont say anything nasty, but in all honesty I think Kosovo Albanians would have hoped for a different country to be the first to recognise.

Oh well.
(bganon, 18 February 2008 17:42)

I would agree, I thought Malaysia would be the first, they recognized us a long time ago. I think it would been more meaningful if our neighbors recognized us first instead of the big 12, either case it doesn't matter. Now we have to work on living together and improving economic conditions.

I am very amused about this childish cheering...

with UNSC 1244 in full force, everything is possible.

with yesterday´s socalled declaration the Albanians have changed from citizens of the Republic of Serbia to foreign occupiers.

they should keep that in mind, since it could be that one day this means they are a legitimate target of liberation measures of the rightful sovereign - Serbia.

and Serbia will be ready that´s something you can count on. :)

Well people you might find it funny to who and which country is to recognise us first, but watch the news they keep interrupting and say ohh yes another one recognises the Republic of Kosova.
We welcome and appreciate everyones effort for making this happen. we celebrated it in well maner way so guys im off to continue celebrating just now, again i think it will continue for the rest of my life..
good nite everyone

Am amazed how the K-albanians are so closely following the 'countup' like they've done something wrong, like just taking someone else's piece of land and now time to have it covered up asap! As a Swiss am ashame that our politicians are part of this mess, but of course with the 200 thousands in switzerland they are affraid that they may want also to grab one of our canton. So better to give them what they want so we have a legal right to send some of them back home, cause nobody is expecting any to freely live, why should they, switzerland is so confortable.
But of course, they are all patriots, pure patriots, but hang on, for the last 10 years if I remember well, Serbia has nothing to say down there, so those fantastic patriots had all the time to invest in their homeland, where is the result??
Patriot yes, stupid now, let's wait for the european tax payer's money, that's a better deal!!

To my eternal shame, it seems as if my government (Ireland) will recognise the Kosovo UDI sometime soon. So they say anyway.

What can I say except to repeat what I've always felt about this current administration here - a bunch of unprincipled, spineless wasters who slavishly follow the lead of the EU big guns and America.

Now it is all systems go to deliver them and their political masters a bloody nose by defeating the Lisbon Treaty.

USA and Albania, just recognize it few minutes ago.

The list of countries having recognized Kosova is getting very impressive and getting longer very fast. I congratulate Kosova for it.
I am specialy proud that my country the USA moved so fast.

"Hi

Congratulations Kosova . It is the people who decide of their nation's future.....happy independence , and welcome to europe.
(Maximilian, 18 February 2008 23:24)"

The Republic of Serbia has always been in Europe and so was the Province of Kosovo (still is). If you mean by "Welcome to Europe" welcome to the EU then you are telling them a lie and that is not a nice thing to say to people who will experience some nasty hangover soon and who will realize they have been used despite certain illegal recognitions. Kosovo will only be a part of the EU if Serbia will join, but after yesterday I estimate that chance to be close to zero. On the other hand, the EU can betray its own rules and bypass countries that in the eyes of certain more powerful countries are not real equal members. The Colony of Kosovo is the appropriate name for the time being and the EU has lost an enourmous deal of credibility the past few weeks and days. The only thing that really bothers me is that we have to pay for all this nonsense while most countries have enough problems of their own that have to be dealt with.

France thankyou for coming through for us.

It pretty much turned out the way everyone predicted it.

There must be a buzz like hell in Kosovo, I watched the declaration and some scenes of the party afterwards.

So to recap, as far as I know, here is the recognition list:

Afghanistan, Albania, France, Italy, Taiwan, Turkey, Turkish Cyprus (like anyone cares), United Kingdom and United States of America.

This is the list of those that aim to recognize Kosovo over the next two days:

Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Pakistan, Panama, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Sweden and Switzerland.

The list of countries that won't recognize Kosovo declaration:

Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, China, Cyprus, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka and Vietnam.

Others either will wait for EU or UN approval beforehand, others haven't decided yet.

So there it is, Kosovo has been recognized by enough states to function and trade normally, but it will not be able to join OECD, UN, Council of Europe and EU due to vetoes from the respective countries involved who will not recognize independence, though it can join the IMF.

It will probably end up nestling alongside countries such as Taiwan, Sahrawi Arab Republic, Israel and Palestine in terms of the amount of countries that recognize it.

But the bottom line for me was seeing how happy the Kosovars were. At last I can say I understand how deeply they wanted it, it was moving.

On the other hand, what was also moving was the anger of the Serbs from Serbia, the sadness and fear of the Kosovo Serbs, I can say this will not end so quickly. Serbia will not give up on Kosovo.

Let's just hope that the tension simmers and that stability will come to all peoples of the Balkans!

Let's also hope that there will indeed be no precedent with regards to Abkhazia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland South Ossetia and Transnistria. Let's hope the "sui generis" holds water.

RE: Illegal Kosovo and Censorship

(1)B-92 Censorship-

Kosovo is an illegal republic/country according to most international agreements and precedents since World War II. The current leadership of Kosovo and the elected leader Hacim Thaci is a terrorist as listed by the United States CIA terrorist watch list. The truth cannot be censored that the KLA and UCK have Albanian, Serbian and Roma blood on theire hands.

(2) Canada has not committed to recognizing the illegal republic of Kosovo due to the danger of revitalizing the French Quebec debate for seperation.

Now make up your mind. If Kosovo is the no.1 trafficking country, and if this heroin is produced at Afghanistan on the east, it means that the heroin in Kosovo is trafficked from some eastern country on its border, right? So, also this border country should be the no. 1 trafficking country. I guess, which is this country? Hmmm? Have any idea?
(Mikel, 18 February 2008 17:39)

Sure Mikel - ALBANIA!

These recognitions really dont mean anything since they are outside the UN.
Infact, the Kosovo 'government' has much more recognition as part of UNMIK so infact its world would be much smaller.

So any company from a country not recognizing Kosovo as a Serbian province
will not legally be able to do business.

In a few weeks, when the false euphoria wears off, the Albanians will see they have been deceived again.

Afghanistan?
Whoa, I am impressed. My brother spent one year there (full 2006) as Sergeant with Romanian Army, and based on his stories, Kosovo is 100 times better!

However, K/Albanians, be aware: being recognized by Hamid Karzai govt. (which cannot exist without US support) may put you on collision course with Mollah Omar and his good friend Osama bin Laden. It would be difficult to reject accusations of being 'the friends of the Great Satan', especially taking into consideration the general lack of appetite for Islam I have witnessed among K/Albanians while working in Kosovo with OSCE for three years :)

Hi

Congratulations Kosova . It is the people who decide of their nation's future.....happy independece , and welcome to europe.

A puppet state recognizes another puppet state.

Shame to be italian too..all my support to serbian people!
Still hoping that this situation will be solved in a really democratic way...

As French, I apologize for what France government did today. This independence won't sort out the complex situation of Kosovo.
Albanians suffered, Serbs too and they can't live together anymore, but such unilateral independence denies Serbs rights on Kosovo. Serbs don't have to pay anymore what Milosevic did and another time they paid for it with this independence. Nationalism is a disease whatever the country !

I'm very sory, in my deep heart, to see that my country, France, and his sad government, dont support people of Serbie. Serbie is our friend and our historic brothers. Our government is just coward. But, Serbie, we are with you. Just look at reactions here :
http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/monde/310759.FR.php

Keep faith ! Glory to us !

Yugoslavia was recognised by all these countries, too.

Ultimately however this "recognition" counted for nothing.

Yugoslavia was unable to defend itself from the Amercians, Germans and British who planned, financed and executed its destruction.

KosovA was created by at the whim of the Americans and it can disappear just as quickly.

i guess there are so many countries lining up they started by Alphabetical Order.
Cheers

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
We also thank Serbia for stuborness that created this rush of countries to recognize KosovA's Independence. We ourselves are suprised that such massive and fast recognition would occur.

and by the way it was the french who gave us the blessing with sarcozy but Afghanistan is couple of hours earlier than cet. Just an update b92 that some news are in a chronological order.

Artan, no one is surprised about who will recognize you unlawfull state, we are ashame that this could happen so easily, 'just do it' of course the millions that your lobby has paid to the US senate have finally brought fruits, of course these millions are only coming from legitimate businesses!!
Everyone who has a little common sense and understand a bit the mechanism can only be revolted about such decision, but the history always remember and maybe one day you guys down there will realize that this pseudo liberty had a too high price to pay. If I have read well one of your fierest K defender of indenpendance mentionned yesterday "but what do we get in this deal, nothing, not even the right to change things withoug oncle sam's approval and of course the european sheeps" this is the reality, but maybe that's what you all want guys, easy $, it has been like this for 10 years, no reason to stop!!

To my friends in Serbia,
If I were a Serb, I would be appalled if the Serb government spent my tax dollars in the Kosovo black hole. So I would be celebrating that it has finally left.
If I lived in a EU country or if I were American I would also be appalled if I saw my hard earned tax money spent away in Kosovo, and making international law and order a collateral damage of this awful policy.
I understand your feelings, but at the end this would be like having an ugly, high spending girlfriend leaving you for your worst enemy. You would grieve for some time, but you would laugh at the end, or better yet, you would not care one bit.
This has happened before. Take the loss of Cuba by Spain. Cuba was loved by Spaniards and they still talk about it with a heavy heart and sadness. They know that Cuba was stolen from them, with the same ugly tricks that the US is pulling with Kosovo. But they don’t care now, since their revenge came when the Americans were thrown out of Cuba by the same people they supposedly liberated.
So look at the future Serbia, I truly believe it is a bright one.

My dear posters.
Yesterday i watched on B92 there where three analists, and i understand why we K Albanians dont want to live anymore in Serbia, In Serbia there is such a hight nationalisim, they where talking about the albanian mentality, as we where wild people, so please can someone tell me how do you think that some one would accept living in the country, that does not consider you equal as its own citizen.
Its a shame a big shame about the comments that they give, and people of Serbia, I think the world does not care for you, because you are the cause of the wars in ballkan, you are the one who destroyed YUGOSLAVIA.
Please do not think that i hate you, i work with me fellow serbian colleagues, and till now, i didnt have nothing bad with them, i even talk to them in serbian, as a sign of respect.
And to the posters that say that are from difrent countrys, i think the gouvenment thinks much better than the individuals, and its in a gouvrnments intrest to recognize Kosovo as Independent Country.
Peace to all, Long live Independent Republic Of Kosova

AfgaNATOistan, how fitting, finally something to laugh about.

Hello everyone. Sorry I didn't post anything last couple days, I was too busy celebrating Independence of Kosova.
I was ecpecting that the Serbs that are in this forum to congratulate Kosovar people for their Independente Coutnry. O well, not a big deal, we can live without that, but it would have been nice.
Before Kosova declared independence many serbs in here were saying that there is no way that Kosova will become a country and so on, now it is a country, and only argument they (serb in here) find to argue about is that who was the first country to recongnise indepenedence, that's funny to hear. Do you guys think that Afghanistan made other countires to recognize Kosova? I didn't think so!
It is too sad to see Serbs in northenrn part of Kosova burning buildings and attacking UN. Now they(serbs) are showing their real true face to the world, good thing is that media from around the world are in Kosova right now.

Happy Independece.

Any country that recognises the Albanian land grab in Kosovo is Serbia’s enemy.
(Michael Thomas, 18 February 2008 19:33)

I think this sentence says all. serbs are serbias enimies
thank you to the independence camp countiries

You guys must love Serbs, because you guys flood our forums like ants. Funny how Serbs don't go on your forums, just like how no Serb would ever buy an Albanian home. Its you guys that live 'Greater' expansionist ideas and not Serbs. Its your parents that tell you not to leave the house without guns, but its our mothers who have heartattacks to see their sons with ones. Bush doesn't even know Yugoslavia on a map let alone for him to dictate 'independence'. Clinton disgraced himself and then 'justified' bombings over Serbia, and then Bush screwed up Iraq and now calls independence. Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo? Of Serbs. Its the CIA who instructed the KLA to have its people walk towards the borders and create that image for TV for justification and later use for 'Belgrade can no longer rule Kosovo due to its ethnic cleansing'. Why don't they talk about how you guys abused your powers in the 80's? Poisoning Serb wells, raping girls and threatening Serb children??? Your lucky the Balkans are not in 'non US interest areas' otherwise there would be no Albanians...aka Darfur.

Joe

Wouldn't you rather have your tax money going into, for example, free medical insurance for US children and other services that George Bush vetoed (despite the majority vote of the senate) in order to fund his pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, rather than pumping them into some country in Europe? They are now independent, they have enough recognition to function, they must now prove to the world that they can be independent and not be a dependent charity case!

Nobody helped any Eastern European countries (including your country, Hungary, and mine, Poland) to build up their infrastructure after it was almost completely annihilated during the Second World War, we were independent and we did it ourselves, Kosovo must also forge its own future, and your tax money should be going into improving the quality of life in your country, not someone else's.

Would b92 make an apology for their false claim that United Arab would recognize Kosovo first?
Would you make an apology for linking Kosovo status with Chechnya?
Since no even the Russia media do not make similar reports how did you know?
If you have your own correspondent reporting live from Chechnya than I take back my claim.
The first country that openly declared it will NOT recognize Kosovo is Indonesia!!!
A Muslim country by the way...
Why don't you report this?
Can someone tell me why are you burning the American and Albanian flags in the street of Serbia?
Shouting “kill all the Albanian’s" and" down with the west" in your so call "protest" makes independency of Kosovo essential.
Go on than burn more McDonalds... Thugs... No shame what so ever!!!
Serbia is more like Pakistan and Iran these days!!! EU should stay fare away from you lot!

the Swiss,

It is well known that for years Kosova will receive billions of dollars of aid from the US and the EU. I personally feel happy about the fact that my tax dollars will be well spent.

I don't understand however why you envy those dollars going to people who suffered so much. You are the citizen of one of the richest countries on earth. You love money and manage it fairly well. Instead of envy it from poor people you should be once a while generous and give.

kosovo is serbia!!!!!!!!
many people in poland think like me
god help serbia

and so sorry serbia
polish govarment make mistake
no country for mafia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rycho

chwala slovian

Gëzo,, 19 February 2008 11:20)
Do you think that Serbia only is to be blamed for what happend in ex-yugoslavia, I wished you had look last night on BN (Bosnian TV) a very interesting report about the involvment of the US during that war, quiet interesting facts, including the hiring of US Generals by the Croatians to clean the Serbs from some Bosnian and Croatian provinces, a war has always multi faces and at the end wherever the US puts is nose, troubles are starting...like the famous weapons of mass disctruction in Irak, a typical example of the politic of lies followed by the US in so many region of the globe, of course the world became safer, thanks to the Cheneys, Rumpfsfeld and co, not talking from Bush who is just an instrument and will remain as the worst president US ever had!

To Joe, now I understand, you are american! The enormous problems your country is facing back home with social issues, health care, subprime loans, violence and an abyssal deficit sould deserve more attention from the tax payers! But apparently there are still too many people like you happy to contribute your $ to wars all around the world, based on lies from your own administration! I accept your view eventhough I believe it is completely wrong because the result turned out to be negative for all of us, and the world certainly did not become safer.
If you had the chance to travel a bit around the world, just have a look at the US embassies, they all look now like fortresses, guess why...
You see, back in Europe we are a bit more pragmatic, eventhough they are some blind followers of your destructive policy, and the majority of the population is simply tired to have to pay for obvious political mistakes whereas at the same time most of the country in Europe are facing big internal challenges and this applies to Switzerland too.
The big American dream that we all had has long gone...

POLAND wants also to support SERBIA!

(at least the polish people)

I think time to get independience for Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus.

A quick look at a world map show that in order to go from Afghanistan to Kosovo (and Albania and from there to Italy and the rest of Europe) one has to travel through Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria and FYR of Macedonia. I am sure that the writer of the article I am commenting on was referring to Serbia. Not this time. It is interesting that Europe allows Muslim countries to provide the drugs that destroy their children and their future. Well, Europe is also addicted to Middle East oil. This will haunt Europe for many generations and the only ones that benefit are the US and oil and drugs producing countries.
(Milan, 18 February 2008 18:41)

Strange, because with another quick look at a world map the itinerary is: Afghanistan - Russia - Moldova - Romania - Serbia - Kosovo - Montenegro - Italy.
The solution is: you keep spreading your lies about albanians, I'll keep saying mines about serbs.
The truth is that criminality has not a passport. You can't support your nationalism with populist deceptions.
Take care.

Ilir

Kosovo Albanians behaved no better in 2004. Stop pointing fingers, time now is for peace, not for hatred.

The tie between the number one heroin producers and number one heroin providers strengthens.
They could have been at least a bit more subtle don't you think?
Don't worry about this so called new state because they will soon be run over with drugs and most of their population will pay the price of addiction due to their lack of eduaction on the issue just like their "brothers" the afghans.

"Strange, because with another quick look at a world map the itinerary is: Afghanistan - Russia - Moldova - Romania - Serbia - Kosovo - Montenegro - Italy.
The solution is: you keep spreading your lies about albanians, I'll keep saying mines about serbs.
The truth is that criminality has not a passport. You can't support your nationalism with populist deceptions.
Take care.
(Skerdilajd, 19 February 2008 10:08)"

An educated person who can read a world map would see that Afganishtan does not border Russia. It actually borders Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north. Then you have to cross Kazachstan, Russia (finally, but relatively small), Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Serbia, and Albania. My previous one is the shortest route (and time is money). I am sure that Serbia does everything to prevent drugs smuggling through its territory. I am not spreading lies. You are because you cannot get your facts straight. Criminality does indeed have no passport and it will for sure not be a Kosovo one (because it does not exist like your "country" (colony would be a better word)). I am just surprised that after years of spreading lies about Serbs now you guys react so sensitively when we decided to follow your successful approach.

uli

89 countries? There are less than 10 that have and there are maybe 2-3 times more that say they will. The rest either is neutral, against or weighing their options (waiting for an EU or UN resolution on the matter).

And one more thing, the general assembly may vote in favour of Kosovo joining (due to majority vote), but the security council needs to endorse it, and there are two veto holders who are against independence, so that means that even if the whole world wants Kosovo in the UN, the UNSC needs to endorse that, and one veto will close it.

It was, from the beginning, the price Kosovo had to pay by pushing for UDI.

@(uli, 19 February 2008 01:44)

you wrote :
"Soon will reach the right number to get 2/3 and get a united nation seat."

I don't know who told you this lie, but to get UN recognation ALL 192 UN members have to agree, and the decision off recognation can be stopped by any permanant member with an VETO like Russia & China who do not recognize youre 'country'.

The same goes for the EU, to even get aspirant-membership to the EU you have to have aprovement off all the EU memberstate's, and it now stands, 6 EU members will NEVER recognize kosovo the conclusion can only be that Kosovo will never be an part of the EU.

I don't know who lied to you about that 2/3 majority to be able to join an organisation, it's simply not true.

USA,Germany,Great Britian,Italy,Turkey,Albania,and many more to come,we all appreciate your love for Kosova and it shows.Recognition is inevitable,irreversible,long awaited and unstoppable.It's true that real friends are there when you need them most.Keep up the momentum,this is the GREATEST day of my life.Peace and love to our supporters around the globe.

"An educated man, knows also that it is not the distance the most important issue on trafficking. It is: How easy it is in certain countries to cross the borders. How corrupt is the country. And how strong are the criminal groups. Well. Talking about russian mafia, or criminal groups of Serbia, I think it is useless. Their fame is universal. There is criminality everywhere, but there is no country in Europe, where gangs and criminality is so strong to even be able to eliminate a premier, like they did in Serbia. And if Afghanistan has no territorial connection, no problem, because drug dealers know very well the offices of the highly corrupted Aeroflot. An educated man like you should know that we are living in the XXI century. Distances are not important. "It is economy, stupid" - Ronald Reagan.
(Skerdilajd, 20 February 2008 11:03)"

Apparently you are well educated in drug smuggling (unlike me, I have no interest in that whatsoever)and so you know all the ins and out (maybe you are one yourself). By the way, in your colony a war criminal/terrorist/drugs criminal made it to PM so what does that say about Kosovo? So in Iran, Turkey and Bulgaria there are no corrupt people that are willing to close their eyes? Why bother going through all the trouble. I am sure the drugs maffia can arrange a plane and fly directly from Afghanistan to Pristina (maybe not, that would attrackt to much attention). Well maybe one day Kosovo will have its own airline and since Afghanistan was among the first countries to recognize you it would be nice to award them with a direct flight (on the way to Afghanistan one can take young men that will fight with NATO against the Taliban and one the way back fresh opium that will be processed in Kosovo). By the way, Aeroflot does not fly to Kabul, but I guess you meant that they can use Aeroflot from other countries. I think that Serbia was well aware of Kosovo's practices and how they had organized things and that the Kosovo drugs gangs were a driving force to create problems so eventually nobody would be bothering them (NATO has been quite blind). I am not sure if you guys are living in the 21st century. Talking about economy, beside drugs and some other illegal activities you guys do not have much of an economy anyway (apparently the construction business is doing well, especially religious buildings are in high demand). This will be my last reply to you. Every time you reply you give me so many opportunities to reply and make fun of you and your false arguments. It is too easy and I already lost my interest.

PS. B92, please post my reply as it is now (yes, I make fun but it is not insulting (he is asking for it)).

Still doubt about it, yeah thats natural somthing happened and now what? take your ambasadors from 100 countries, thats great move, you have done pretty well since 1980s. STOP blaming others for your problems, you cant deal with yourselves and others are to blame because they dont support your GREAT IDEAS, such as, GREAT SERBIA. in a little while you are going to be tired and realize the consequences of withdrawing your ambasadors from th USA and other Countries.

well, looks like I have to react also regarding the declaration of the Independence of Kosova. DOnt you all (Serbs, and others) see what is going on? I think that you have experienced a brainwash by Milosevic and other nationalist leaders such as Kostunica, but also from Tadic and other leaders who do not want to loose votes.

The Independence of Kosova is totally legal and Serbia should have been the first one to accept it in case that the regime would be democtatic. First of all because of crimes that Serbs have done in Kosova, second of all, because Kosova has never been part of Serbia legaly.

I am glad that the most democratic countries do accept Kosova as state, and I think that there will be a day when Serbia will have to do so also.

serbs should see themselves more directed into the european values and not be victim of Russia's politics with the US.

It is very important to know also that many comments that I read in b92 are very emotional and not based on facts, but the real fact is that Serbia had problems with Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, Kosovo and so on...something is wrong here guys! Cant you see this? I mean all the victims in Bosnia, Kosovo? how about them?

Kosovo deserved the independence because legaly it has not been part of Serbia, but Milosevic overtook it with constitutional coup d'etat in 1989. Remember this?

There are 81 countries that regognize Kosova as we speak. I have a full list, but all islamic countries that are quite a few regognized today as well as those European Countries such as france, italy,united kingdom, albania, also usa, afganistan and a bunch more. Soon will reach the right number to get 2/3 and get a united nation seat.

B92, Costa Rica was the first country to officially recognize the Republic of Kosova.

To all others: Happy Independence and let's now look to a bright future between Serbs and Albanians.

Hi
53# You don't need to be Einstain to understand that Kosova are Indenpendent now...and vill NEVER again be a part of Serbia, Kosova's future are EU, and last but not least In no way should the Independence of one nation be denied by another.Cangragulations citizen of Kosova , god bless Kosova.

Hi

57# I think you should be proud for your country, by the way , you can always move to serbia if you want it , we are living in democracy. :=)
God bless Kosova

Eagle

What true face? Had Albanians declared independence and no one had recognized them they would have done precisely the same thing. They already did it in 2004. Do you think the destruction of churches in Kosovo in 2004 shows the "true face" of Albanians? These are just some angry people (rightfully so), but to say that they represent the "true face" of the Serbs is being just like those Serbs who claim you are all Muslim terrorists, pimps and drug dealers/wholesalers.

Now that Kosovo is independent, when the Serbs accept it, hopefully life will get back to normal for everybody in the Balkans.

In this moment I do not feel proud to be Italian! The puppet repubblic of Kosovo is out of law.
what happens if in the future Alto Adige or Padania decleare their indipendence?
Stupid politics!!!
You have not understood that the main objective of USA is create problems inside Europe so that they will keep being the "king of the world". USA do not care if the recognition of kosovo will take plenty of new problems and fight in Europe!!
(ginevra, 18 February 2008 19:54)

ginevra, don't worry about Alto Adige. They get a lot of money as an autonomous province, and the freedoms of the german minority are respected in full. They won't secede, it's not in their interest. The italian governments of the past have dealt really well with minorities, they haven't pushed them to a corner, forcing them to fight back with arms.
Padania is a joke and you should know it, you can't really think that Padania will declare independence. Those are just commerciants who want to pay less taxes.

Ronald

That is also not true that all 192 states have to recognize Kosovo, there are many companies who lack full recognition in the UN, but one thing they all have is UNSC endorsement, something Kosovo will not achieve.

Take a look, for instance, at Israel, North and South Korea, Cyprus and China, they are not recognized by everyone, but they all have UNSC backing, one of them even has a permanent seat. Kosovo will not be as fortunate as these states.

An educated person who can read a world map would see that Afganishtan does not border Russia. It actually borders Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north. Then you have to cross Kazachstan, Russia (finally, but relatively small), Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Serbia, and Albania. My previous one is the shortest route (and time is money). I am sure that Serbia does everything to prevent drugs smuggling through its territory. I am not spreading lies. You are because you cannot get your facts straight. Criminality does indeed have no passport and it will for sure not be a Kosovo one (because it does not exist like your "country" (colony would be a better word)). I am just surprised that after years of spreading lies about Serbs now you guys react so sensitively when we decided to follow your successful approach.
(Milan, 19 February 2008 19:58)

An educated man, knows also that it is not the distance the most important issue on trafficking. It is: How easy it is in certain countries to cross the borders. How corrupt is the country. And how strong are the criminal groups. Well. Talking about russian mafia, or criminal groups of Serbia, I think it is useless. Their fame is universal. There is criminality everywhere, but there is no country in Europe, where gangs and criminality is so strong to even be able to eliminate a premier, like they did in Serbia. And if Afghanistan has no territorial connection, no problem, because drug dealers know very well the offices of the highly corrupted Aeroflot. An educated man like you should know that we are living in the XXI century. Distances are not important. "It is economy, stupid" - Ronald Reagan.

to 59:
Alto Adige were well managed by passed italian governors?
it is, if you mean to arrest terrorist (etnic germans) and impose italian language as well as that german dialect that that people speack.
than we sand them a lot of money, but as they are etnic german, they new how to usw it on the right way, not buyng weapons, not investing in dope.
kosovo indipendence it's just an unavoidable mistake, we (european people) gonna pay for it very mutch, you all k.inhabitants will be first.
congratulations, if it make you happy

Thankyou Afganistan for you support and cosideration,we appreciate it much. May your country enjoy peace and prosperity in a democratic form of government.Long live freedom and our future friendship,once again THANKYOU.

Republic of Kosova !!!

Thank you Afghanistan, the Kosovar people wish for you the best.

No.1 country to recognise No.1 Heroin trafficking country is the No.1 Heroin producing country. Coincidence?
(VD, 18 February 2008 17:18)

Now make up your mind. If Kosovo is the no.1 trafficking country, and if this heroin is produced at Afghanistan on the east, it means that the heroin in Kosovo is trafficked from some eastern country on its border, right? So, also this border country should be the no. 1 trafficking country. I guess, which is this country? Hmmm? Have any idea?

Interesting connection - No.1 country to recognise No.1 Heroin trafficking country is the No.1 Heroin producing country. Coincidence?

Thanks Afghanistan!

It was natural,only countries that had suffered so much under the foreing tyrany like Afghanistan,can truly understand the Kosovar struggle and aspirations.

thanks again!

Would this be the puppet government installed by the Americans? Has anyone asked Mullah Omar?

Thank you Afghanistan, France, Britain, Germany, Italy for recognizing the Republic of Kosova!
Much love to our great friend G.W. Bush who announced USA's recognition from Tanzania, even before the State Department had a chance to do so.

Also much love to Ireland, Finland, Poland, Switzerland, and the Netherlands, all of whom indicated swift recognition in the next two days.

This list will grow, and I intend to thank each country one by one.

It seems perfectly appropriate for the US puppet-state of Afghanistan to be the first to recognise the US puppet-state of KosovA. It is all the more appropriate given that the Kosovo Albanians are the main distributors for Afghanistan’s heroin production.

As for the French, I think it is about time Serbia reappraised its historic “friendship” with France. The French were once allies, but they are now Serbia’s enemies.

Paris Street (next to Kalemegdan) should be renamed, as should France Street (Francuska).

Any country that recognises the Albanian land grab in Kosovo is Serbia’s enemy.

No need to be recognises from Poorest Country's,for State of KosovA it's enought recognise from United States of America,Super-Power of Globe,Russia its not Democratic Country so nobody cares,even if they will recognise NOBODY Cares here in Republic of KosovA ! THANKY YOU FRANCE,GB,ITALY for Supporting Freedom ! Waiting for Other Countrys.

A quick look at a world map show that in order to go from Afghanistan to Kosovo (and Albania and from there to Italy and the rest of Europe) one has to travel through Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria and FYR of Macedonia. I am sure that the writer of the article I am commenting on was referring to Serbia. Not this time. It is interesting that Europe allows Muslim countries to provide the drugs that destroy their children and their future. Well, Europe is also addicted to Middle East oil. This will haunt Europe for many generations and the only ones that benefit are the US and oil and drugs producing countries.
(Milan, 18 February 2008 18:41)

Strange, because with another quick look at a world map the itinerary is: Afghanistan - Russia - Moldova - Romania - Serbia - Kosovo - Montenegro - Italy.
The solution is: you keep spreading your lies about albanians, I'll keep saying mines about serbs.
The truth is that criminality has not a passport. You can't support your nationalism with populist deceptions.
Take care.

Afghanistan under Hamid Kharzai is a different Afghanistan compared to Mullah Omar. Therefore thank you Afghanistan for recognizing us.
Afghanistan knows how bad it is ti be ruled under tyranny because they were under tyranny of Russia and then of Taliban but now they are in process of being a democratic country.
IT is really sad and shame that some people here make fun of Afghanistan, a country that has suffered so much. This shows what kind of people are the ones here that oppose Kosova's Independence.
Also, USA,France,Germany,England,Italy,Belgium, Turkey, Albania, Poland,Hungary and many more are countries that recognized us or in process of recognizing us within the next hours.
Therefore serbs do not try to make yourselves happy but rather live in the world of REALITY where KOSOVA is being recognized from countries all over the world.

I'm not spiteful so I wont say anything nasty, but in all honesty I think Kosovo Albanians would have hoped for a different country to be the first to recognise.

Oh well.
(bganon, 18 February 2008 17:42)

I would agree, I thought Malaysia would be the first, they recognized us a long time ago. I think it would been more meaningful if our neighbors recognized us first instead of the big 12, either case it doesn't matter. Now we have to work on living together and improving economic conditions.

Also independence for Corsica, Wales, Scotland, the Basque Republic (with aprts of Spain and France), California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas!

Just for the record, Australia was the first to recognise the Republic of Kosovo.

It's only natural that Afganistan was the first country to recognize Kosovo. After all they are tied not just by religion or colonial integrity, but by business too. Who else is going to traffic all the herion from afganistan to EU and US?

The list of countries having recognized Kosova is getting very impressive and getting longer very fast. I congratulate Kosova for it.
I am specialy proud that my country the USA moved so fast.

There are 81 countries that regognize Kosova as we speak. I have a full list, but all islamic countries that are quite a few regognized today as well as those European Countries such as france, italy,united kingdom, albania, also usa, afganistan and a bunch more. Soon will reach the right number to get 2/3 and get a united nation seat.

B92, Costa Rica was the first country to officially recognize the Republic of Kosova.

To all others: Happy Independence and let's now look to a bright future between Serbs and Albanians.

Hi
53# You don't need to be Einstain to understand that Kosova are Indenpendent now...and vill NEVER again be a part of Serbia, Kosova's future are EU, and last but not least In no way should the Independence of one nation be denied by another.Cangragulations citizen of Kosova , god bless Kosova.

ahh Afghanistan, that bastion of democracy, liberalism, women's rights, and freedom of religion.

If Kosovo turns out like Afghanistan is actually might be an improvement.

I'm not spiteful so I wont say anything nasty, but in all honesty I think Kosovo Albanians would have hoped for a different country to be the first to recognise.

Oh well.

As French, I apologize for what France government did today. This independence won't sort out the complex situation of Kosovo.
Albanians suffered, Serbs too and they can't live together anymore, but such unilateral independence denies Serbs rights on Kosovo. Serbs don't have to pay anymore what Milosevic did and another time they paid for it with this independence. Nationalism is a disease whatever the country !

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
We also thank Serbia for stuborness that created this rush of countries to recognize KosovA's Independence. We ourselves are suprised that such massive and fast recognition would occur.

NATO must be very happy now that it has millions of grateful Albanian men to join and fight on its behalf against the people of Afghanistan.Or on the other hand this will enable even closer cooperation between NATO/KLA and Afghan drug runners to supply the youth of Europe with their much needed daily highs.

Am amazed how the K-albanians are so closely following the 'countup' like they've done something wrong, like just taking someone else's piece of land and now time to have it covered up asap! As a Swiss am ashame that our politicians are part of this mess, but of course with the 200 thousands in switzerland they are affraid that they may want also to grab one of our canton. So better to give them what they want so we have a legal right to send some of them back home, cause nobody is expecting any to freely live, why should they, switzerland is so confortable.
But of course, they are all patriots, pure patriots, but hang on, for the last 10 years if I remember well, Serbia has nothing to say down there, so those fantastic patriots had all the time to invest in their homeland, where is the result??
Patriot yes, stupid now, let's wait for the european tax payer's money, that's a better deal!!

To my eternal shame, it seems as if my government (Ireland) will recognise the Kosovo UDI sometime soon. So they say anyway.

What can I say except to repeat what I've always felt about this current administration here - a bunch of unprincipled, spineless wasters who slavishly follow the lead of the EU big guns and America.

Now it is all systems go to deliver them and their political masters a bloody nose by defeating the Lisbon Treaty.

My dear posters.
Yesterday i watched on B92 there where three analists, and i understand why we K Albanians dont want to live anymore in Serbia, In Serbia there is such a hight nationalisim, they where talking about the albanian mentality, as we where wild people, so please can someone tell me how do you think that some one would accept living in the country, that does not consider you equal as its own citizen.
Its a shame a big shame about the comments that they give, and people of Serbia, I think the world does not care for you, because you are the cause of the wars in ballkan, you are the one who destroyed YUGOSLAVIA.
Please do not think that i hate you, i work with me fellow serbian colleagues, and till now, i didnt have nothing bad with them, i even talk to them in serbian, as a sign of respect.
And to the posters that say that are from difrent countrys, i think the gouvenment thinks much better than the individuals, and its in a gouvrnments intrest to recognize Kosovo as Independent Country.
Peace to all, Long live Independent Republic Of Kosova

VD, you are wrong. Afghanistan is No.1 OPIUM producing country.

Kosovo produces Heroin from Afghan opium.

Spain has announced that it will never recognize Kosovo as an state, thereby it is virtually impossible for Kosovo to join the EU (alle members have to agree on that, and how can somebody agree if they don't recognize them).

Therefore welcome Kosovo to becoming the first state in Europe which is denied acces to the EU even before they apply for admittance.

Serbia, be glad you got rid off that maffia invested hell hole.

Well people you might find it funny to who and which country is to recognise us first, but watch the news they keep interrupting and say ohh yes another one recognises the Republic of Kosova.
We welcome and appreciate everyones effort for making this happen. we celebrated it in well maner way so guys im off to continue celebrating just now, again i think it will continue for the rest of my life..
good nite everyone

These recognitions really dont mean anything since they are outside the UN.
Infact, the Kosovo 'government' has much more recognition as part of UNMIK so infact its world would be much smaller.

So any company from a country not recognizing Kosovo as a Serbian province
will not legally be able to do business.

In a few weeks, when the false euphoria wears off, the Albanians will see they have been deceived again.

I am very amused about this childish cheering...

with UNSC 1244 in full force, everything is possible.

with yesterday´s socalled declaration the Albanians have changed from citizens of the Republic of Serbia to foreign occupiers.

they should keep that in mind, since it could be that one day this means they are a legitimate target of liberation measures of the rightful sovereign - Serbia.

and Serbia will be ready that´s something you can count on. :)

Now make up your mind. If Kosovo is the no.1 trafficking country, and if this heroin is produced at Afghanistan on the east, it means that the heroin in Kosovo is trafficked from some eastern country on its border, right? So, also this border country should be the no. 1 trafficking country. I guess, which is this country? Hmmm? Have any idea?
(Mikel, 18 February 2008 17:39)

Sure Mikel - ALBANIA!

Hi

Congratulations Kosova . It is the people who decide of their nation's future.....happy independece , and welcome to europe.

Still doubt about it, yeah thats natural somthing happened and now what? take your ambasadors from 100 countries, thats great move, you have done pretty well since 1980s. STOP blaming others for your problems, you cant deal with yourselves and others are to blame because they dont support your GREAT IDEAS, such as, GREAT SERBIA. in a little while you are going to be tired and realize the consequences of withdrawing your ambasadors from th USA and other Countries.

In this moment I do not feel proud to be Italian! The puppet repubblic of Kosovo is out of law.
what happens if in the future Alto Adige or Padania decleare their indipendence?
Stupid politics!!!
You have not understood that the main objective of USA is create problems inside Europe so that they will keep being the "king of the world". USA do not care if the recognition of kosovo will take plenty of new problems and fight in Europe!!

Once again the US and the EU are interfering where they are not wanted. Sure there were Serb atrocities but we never hear about Albanian atrocities against their own, Serbs, Goran and Roma minorities. Why? - Because it did not and does not suit the US and their puppy dog followers. Might we expect to see California delare UDI after all the Latinos are out breeding WASP type Americans. Will the UK government agree to a similar state for Wales or Scotland (some might hope so)? To allow UDI without a UN resolution flies in the face of International law. Do not believe for one moment that the Albanians will protect Serb culture and heritage – just look at what happened in March 2004 – Serb Churches destroyed, Serb Villages destroyed and the Orthodox Cemetery in South Mitrovica desecrated beyond belief. Two wrongs have never made a right. I am ashamed to be British.

RE: Illegal Kosovo and Censorship

(1)B-92 Censorship-

Kosovo is an illegal republic/country according to most international agreements and precedents since World War II. The current leadership of Kosovo and the elected leader Hacim Thaci is a terrorist as listed by the United States CIA terrorist watch list. The truth cannot be censored that the KLA and UCK have Albanian, Serbian and Roma blood on theire hands.

(2) Canada has not committed to recognizing the illegal republic of Kosovo due to the danger of revitalizing the French Quebec debate for seperation.

the Swiss,

It is well known that for years Kosova will receive billions of dollars of aid from the US and the EU. I personally feel happy about the fact that my tax dollars will be well spent.

I don't understand however why you envy those dollars going to people who suffered so much. You are the citizen of one of the richest countries on earth. You love money and manage it fairly well. Instead of envy it from poor people you should be once a while generous and give.

To my friends in Serbia,
If I were a Serb, I would be appalled if the Serb government spent my tax dollars in the Kosovo black hole. So I would be celebrating that it has finally left.
If I lived in a EU country or if I were American I would also be appalled if I saw my hard earned tax money spent away in Kosovo, and making international law and order a collateral damage of this awful policy.
I understand your feelings, but at the end this would be like having an ugly, high spending girlfriend leaving you for your worst enemy. You would grieve for some time, but you would laugh at the end, or better yet, you would not care one bit.
This has happened before. Take the loss of Cuba by Spain. Cuba was loved by Spaniards and they still talk about it with a heavy heart and sadness. They know that Cuba was stolen from them, with the same ugly tricks that the US is pulling with Kosovo. But they don’t care now, since their revenge came when the Americans were thrown out of Cuba by the same people they supposedly liberated.
So look at the future Serbia, I truly believe it is a bright one.

Hi

57# I think you should be proud for your country, by the way , you can always move to serbia if you want it , we are living in democracy. :=)
God bless Kosova

Hello everyone. Sorry I didn't post anything last couple days, I was too busy celebrating Independence of Kosova.
I was ecpecting that the Serbs that are in this forum to congratulate Kosovar people for their Independente Coutnry. O well, not a big deal, we can live without that, but it would have been nice.
Before Kosova declared independence many serbs in here were saying that there is no way that Kosova will become a country and so on, now it is a country, and only argument they (serb in here) find to argue about is that who was the first country to recongnise indepenedence, that's funny to hear. Do you guys think that Afghanistan made other countires to recognize Kosova? I didn't think so!
It is too sad to see Serbs in northenrn part of Kosova burning buildings and attacking UN. Now they(serbs) are showing their real true face to the world, good thing is that media from around the world are in Kosova right now.

Happy Independece.

@ Mikel: hmmm tricky question...let me think...does it belong with A? ALBANIA!

The first one to recognise a joke nation is....(drums) is a puppet government installed by the americans! Guys this is a comedy show!

"No.1 country to recognise No.1 Heroin trafficking country is the No.1 Heroin producing country. Coincidence?
(VD, 18 February 2008 17:18)

Now make up your mind. If Kosovo is the no.1 trafficking country, and if this heroin is produced at Afghanistan on the east, it means that the heroin in Kosovo is trafficked from some eastern country on its border, right? So, also this border country should be the no. 1 trafficking country. I guess, which is this country? Hmmm? Have any idea?
(Mikel, 18 February 2008 17:39)"

A quick look at a world map show that in order to go from Afghanistan to Kosovo (and Albania and from there to Italy and the rest of Europe) one has to travel through Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria and FYR of Macedonia. I am sure that the writer of the article I am commenting on was referring to Serbia. Not this time. It is interesting that Europe allows Muslim countries to provide the drugs that destroy their children and their future. Well, Europe is also addicted to Middle East oil. This will haunt Europe for many generations and the only ones that benefit are the US and oil and drugs producing countries.

France thankyou for coming through for us.

Artan, no one is surprised about who will recognize you unlawfull state, we are ashame that this could happen so easily, 'just do it' of course the millions that your lobby has paid to the US senate have finally brought fruits, of course these millions are only coming from legitimate businesses!!
Everyone who has a little common sense and understand a bit the mechanism can only be revolted about such decision, but the history always remember and maybe one day you guys down there will realize that this pseudo liberty had a too high price to pay. If I have read well one of your fierest K defender of indenpendance mentionned yesterday "but what do we get in this deal, nothing, not even the right to change things withoug oncle sam's approval and of course the european sheeps" this is the reality, but maybe that's what you all want guys, easy $, it has been like this for 10 years, no reason to stop!!

i guess there are so many countries lining up they started by Alphabetical Order.
Cheers

for the record as well:
Poland did not recognised so-called "idependence" of Kosovo so far (I trully hope it will never do this). Shall the gouverment do this, it will be an action totally against the will of hughe majority of my countrymans who, due to the opinion-polls of the biggest daily gazeta, in 80% strongly oppose such injustice.

Yugoslavia was recognised by all these countries, too.

Ultimately however this "recognition" counted for nothing.

Yugoslavia was unable to defend itself from the Amercians, Germans and British who planned, financed and executed its destruction.

KosovA was created by at the whim of the Americans and it can disappear just as quickly.

I think time to get independience for Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus.

Would b92 make an apology for their false claim that United Arab would recognize Kosovo first?
Would you make an apology for linking Kosovo status with Chechnya?
Since no even the Russia media do not make similar reports how did you know?
If you have your own correspondent reporting live from Chechnya than I take back my claim.
The first country that openly declared it will NOT recognize Kosovo is Indonesia!!!
A Muslim country by the way...
Why don't you report this?
Can someone tell me why are you burning the American and Albanian flags in the street of Serbia?
Shouting “kill all the Albanian’s" and" down with the west" in your so call "protest" makes independency of Kosovo essential.
Go on than burn more McDonalds... Thugs... No shame what so ever!!!
Serbia is more like Pakistan and Iran these days!!! EU should stay fare away from you lot!

USA,Germany,Great Britian,Italy,Turkey,Albania,and many more to come,we all appreciate your love for Kosova and it shows.Recognition is inevitable,irreversible,long awaited and unstoppable.It's true that real friends are there when you need them most.Keep up the momentum,this is the GREATEST day of my life.Peace and love to our supporters around the globe.

well, looks like I have to react also regarding the declaration of the Independence of Kosova. DOnt you all (Serbs, and others) see what is going on? I think that you have experienced a brainwash by Milosevic and other nationalist leaders such as Kostunica, but also from Tadic and other leaders who do not want to loose votes.

The Independence of Kosova is totally legal and Serbia should have been the first one to accept it in case that the regime would be democtatic. First of all because of crimes that Serbs have done in Kosova, second of all, because Kosova has never been part of Serbia legaly.

I am glad that the most democratic countries do accept Kosova as state, and I think that there will be a day when Serbia will have to do so also.

serbs should see themselves more directed into the european values and not be victim of Russia's politics with the US.

It is very important to know also that many comments that I read in b92 are very emotional and not based on facts, but the real fact is that Serbia had problems with Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, Kosovo and so on...something is wrong here guys! Cant you see this? I mean all the victims in Bosnia, Kosovo? how about them?

Kosovo deserved the independence because legaly it has not been part of Serbia, but Milosevic overtook it with constitutional coup d'etat in 1989. Remember this?

RE: Thank you to the countries who recognize pseudo-lllegal banana republic of Kosovo.

(1) Greece
(2) Cyprus
(3) Romania
(4) Bulgaria
(5) Slovakia
(6) Spain

2-5 G-8 countries will not support the illegal declaration, Canada will not endorse the agreement for fear of Quebec Seperation.

Russia is fully on board and against the illegal declaration of Kosovo.

Afghanistan has not choice but to endorse the illegal declaration of Kosovo, they are a protectorate of the US, the same as Kosovo.

To the editors of B-92, Hasim Thaci and Agim Ceku and who were members of the terrorist organizations of the KLA and UCK .


The United States listed these organizations on the terrorist watch list. As such, no amount of censorship from B-92 can hide the fact that Kosovo is a terrorist state run by terrorist leaders who murdered Serbian, Albanian and Roma civilians.

Afghanistan?
Whoa, I am impressed. My brother spent one year there (full 2006) as Sergeant with Romanian Army, and based on his stories, Kosovo is 100 times better!

However, K/Albanians, be aware: being recognized by Hamid Karzai govt. (which cannot exist without US support) may put you on collision course with Mollah Omar and his good friend Osama bin Laden. It would be difficult to reject accusations of being 'the friends of the Great Satan', especially taking into consideration the general lack of appetite for Islam I have witnessed among K/Albanians while working in Kosovo with OSCE for three years :)

It pretty much turned out the way everyone predicted it.

There must be a buzz like hell in Kosovo, I watched the declaration and some scenes of the party afterwards.

So to recap, as far as I know, here is the recognition list:

Afghanistan, Albania, France, Italy, Taiwan, Turkey, Turkish Cyprus (like anyone cares), United Kingdom and United States of America.

This is the list of those that aim to recognize Kosovo over the next two days:

Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Pakistan, Panama, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Sweden and Switzerland.

The list of countries that won't recognize Kosovo declaration:

Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, China, Cyprus, Georgia, Greece, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Spain, Sri Lanka and Vietnam.

Others either will wait for EU or UN approval beforehand, others haven't decided yet.

So there it is, Kosovo has been recognized by enough states to function and trade normally, but it will not be able to join OECD, UN, Council of Europe and EU due to vetoes from the respective countries involved who will not recognize independence, though it can join the IMF.

It will probably end up nestling alongside countries such as Taiwan, Sahrawi Arab Republic, Israel and Palestine in terms of the amount of countries that recognize it.

But the bottom line for me was seeing how happy the Kosovars were. At last I can say I understand how deeply they wanted it, it was moving.

On the other hand, what was also moving was the anger of the Serbs from Serbia, the sadness and fear of the Kosovo Serbs, I can say this will not end so quickly. Serbia will not give up on Kosovo.

Let's just hope that the tension simmers and that stability will come to all peoples of the Balkans!

Let's also hope that there will indeed be no precedent with regards to Abkhazia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Somaliland South Ossetia and Transnistria. Let's hope the "sui generis" holds water.

The tie between the number one heroin producers and number one heroin providers strengthens.
They could have been at least a bit more subtle don't you think?
Don't worry about this so called new state because they will soon be run over with drugs and most of their population will pay the price of addiction due to their lack of eduaction on the issue just like their "brothers" the afghans.

An educated person who can read a world map would see that Afganishtan does not border Russia. It actually borders Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north. Then you have to cross Kazachstan, Russia (finally, but relatively small), Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Serbia, and Albania. My previous one is the shortest route (and time is money). I am sure that Serbia does everything to prevent drugs smuggling through its territory. I am not spreading lies. You are because you cannot get your facts straight. Criminality does indeed have no passport and it will for sure not be a Kosovo one (because it does not exist like your "country" (colony would be a better word)). I am just surprised that after years of spreading lies about Serbs now you guys react so sensitively when we decided to follow your successful approach.
(Milan, 19 February 2008 19:58)

An educated man, knows also that it is not the distance the most important issue on trafficking. It is: How easy it is in certain countries to cross the borders. How corrupt is the country. And how strong are the criminal groups. Well. Talking about russian mafia, or criminal groups of Serbia, I think it is useless. Their fame is universal. There is criminality everywhere, but there is no country in Europe, where gangs and criminality is so strong to even be able to eliminate a premier, like they did in Serbia. And if Afghanistan has no territorial connection, no problem, because drug dealers know very well the offices of the highly corrupted Aeroflot. An educated man like you should know that we are living in the XXI century. Distances are not important. "It is economy, stupid" - Ronald Reagan.

and by the way it was the french who gave us the blessing with sarcozy but Afghanistan is couple of hours earlier than cet. Just an update b92 that some news are in a chronological order.

Looks like the American puppeteers are busy today! Afghanistan first to recognise, now that is funny!

One puppeteer to the next.

OK puppets, now follow Afghanistan's lead!

USA and Albania, just recognize it few minutes ago.

AfgaNATOistan, how fitting, finally something to laugh about.

MFT wrote:

Just for the record, Australia was the first to recognise the Republic of Kosovo.

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Australia??? Where did that story come from? Do you think the Prime minister and his government woke up at 3am to recognise Kosovo? Haha, what a joke!

Afghanistan was the first to recognise Kosovo and it has been confirmed by other media. This puppet show is getting interesting.

Seems like the world is split. The new precedent is starting!

In this moment I do not feel proud to be Italian! The puppet repubblic of Kosovo is out of law.
what happens if in the future Alto Adige or Padania decleare their indipendence?
Stupid politics!!!
You have not understood that the main objective of USA is create problems inside Europe so that they will keep being the "king of the world". USA do not care if the recognition of kosovo will take plenty of new problems and fight in Europe!!
(ginevra, 18 February 2008 19:54)

ginevra, don't worry about Alto Adige. They get a lot of money as an autonomous province, and the freedoms of the german minority are respected in full. They won't secede, it's not in their interest. The italian governments of the past have dealt really well with minorities, they haven't pushed them to a corner, forcing them to fight back with arms.
Padania is a joke and you should know it, you can't really think that Padania will declare independence. Those are just commerciants who want to pay less taxes.

Ilir

Kosovo Albanians behaved no better in 2004. Stop pointing fingers, time now is for peace, not for hatred.

I'm very sory, in my deep heart, to see that my country, France, and his sad government, dont support people of Serbie. Serbie is our friend and our historic brothers. Our government is just coward. But, Serbie, we are with you. Just look at reactions here :
http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/monde/310759.FR.php

Keep faith ! Glory to us !

A puppet state recognizes another puppet state.

Eagle

What true face? Had Albanians declared independence and no one had recognized them they would have done precisely the same thing. They already did it in 2004. Do you think the destruction of churches in Kosovo in 2004 shows the "true face" of Albanians? These are just some angry people (rightfully so), but to say that they represent the "true face" of the Serbs is being just like those Serbs who claim you are all Muslim terrorists, pimps and drug dealers/wholesalers.

Now that Kosovo is independent, when the Serbs accept it, hopefully life will get back to normal for everybody in the Balkans.

Any country that recognises the Albanian land grab in Kosovo is Serbia’s enemy.
(Michael Thomas, 18 February 2008 19:33)

I think this sentence says all. serbs are serbias enimies
thank you to the independence camp countiries

"Hi

Congratulations Kosova . It is the people who decide of their nation's future.....happy independence , and welcome to europe.
(Maximilian, 18 February 2008 23:24)"

The Republic of Serbia has always been in Europe and so was the Province of Kosovo (still is). If you mean by "Welcome to Europe" welcome to the EU then you are telling them a lie and that is not a nice thing to say to people who will experience some nasty hangover soon and who will realize they have been used despite certain illegal recognitions. Kosovo will only be a part of the EU if Serbia will join, but after yesterday I estimate that chance to be close to zero. On the other hand, the EU can betray its own rules and bypass countries that in the eyes of certain more powerful countries are not real equal members. The Colony of Kosovo is the appropriate name for the time being and the EU has lost an enourmous deal of credibility the past few weeks and days. The only thing that really bothers me is that we have to pay for all this nonsense while most countries have enough problems of their own that have to be dealt with.

You guys must love Serbs, because you guys flood our forums like ants. Funny how Serbs don't go on your forums, just like how no Serb would ever buy an Albanian home. Its you guys that live 'Greater' expansionist ideas and not Serbs. Its your parents that tell you not to leave the house without guns, but its our mothers who have heartattacks to see their sons with ones. Bush doesn't even know Yugoslavia on a map let alone for him to dictate 'independence'. Clinton disgraced himself and then 'justified' bombings over Serbia, and then Bush screwed up Iraq and now calls independence. Ethnic cleansing in Kosovo? Of Serbs. Its the CIA who instructed the KLA to have its people walk towards the borders and create that image for TV for justification and later use for 'Belgrade can no longer rule Kosovo due to its ethnic cleansing'. Why don't they talk about how you guys abused your powers in the 80's? Poisoning Serb wells, raping girls and threatening Serb children??? Your lucky the Balkans are not in 'non US interest areas' otherwise there would be no Albanians...aka Darfur.

POLAND wants also to support SERBIA!

(at least the polish people)

kosovo is serbia!!!!!!!!
many people in poland think like me
god help serbia

and so sorry serbia
polish govarment make mistake
no country for mafia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rycho

chwala slovian

Shame to be italian too..all my support to serbian people!
Still hoping that this situation will be solved in a really democratic way...

Joe

Wouldn't you rather have your tax money going into, for example, free medical insurance for US children and other services that George Bush vetoed (despite the majority vote of the senate) in order to fund his pointless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, rather than pumping them into some country in Europe? They are now independent, they have enough recognition to function, they must now prove to the world that they can be independent and not be a dependent charity case!

Nobody helped any Eastern European countries (including your country, Hungary, and mine, Poland) to build up their infrastructure after it was almost completely annihilated during the Second World War, we were independent and we did it ourselves, Kosovo must also forge its own future, and your tax money should be going into improving the quality of life in your country, not someone else's.

uli

89 countries? There are less than 10 that have and there are maybe 2-3 times more that say they will. The rest either is neutral, against or weighing their options (waiting for an EU or UN resolution on the matter).

And one more thing, the general assembly may vote in favour of Kosovo joining (due to majority vote), but the security council needs to endorse it, and there are two veto holders who are against independence, so that means that even if the whole world wants Kosovo in the UN, the UNSC needs to endorse that, and one veto will close it.

It was, from the beginning, the price Kosovo had to pay by pushing for UDI.

@(uli, 19 February 2008 01:44)

you wrote :
"Soon will reach the right number to get 2/3 and get a united nation seat."

I don't know who told you this lie, but to get UN recognation ALL 192 UN members have to agree, and the decision off recognation can be stopped by any permanant member with an VETO like Russia & China who do not recognize youre 'country'.

The same goes for the EU, to even get aspirant-membership to the EU you have to have aprovement off all the EU memberstate's, and it now stands, 6 EU members will NEVER recognize kosovo the conclusion can only be that Kosovo will never be an part of the EU.

I don't know who lied to you about that 2/3 majority to be able to join an organisation, it's simply not true.

Ronald

That is also not true that all 192 states have to recognize Kosovo, there are many companies who lack full recognition in the UN, but one thing they all have is UNSC endorsement, something Kosovo will not achieve.

Take a look, for instance, at Israel, North and South Korea, Cyprus and China, they are not recognized by everyone, but they all have UNSC backing, one of them even has a permanent seat. Kosovo will not be as fortunate as these states.

Gëzo,, 19 February 2008 11:20)
Do you think that Serbia only is to be blamed for what happend in ex-yugoslavia, I wished you had look last night on BN (Bosnian TV) a very interesting report about the involvment of the US during that war, quiet interesting facts, including the hiring of US Generals by the Croatians to clean the Serbs from some Bosnian and Croatian provinces, a war has always multi faces and at the end wherever the US puts is nose, troubles are starting...like the famous weapons of mass disctruction in Irak, a typical example of the politic of lies followed by the US in so many region of the globe, of course the world became safer, thanks to the Cheneys, Rumpfsfeld and co, not talking from Bush who is just an instrument and will remain as the worst president US ever had!

To Joe, now I understand, you are american! The enormous problems your country is facing back home with social issues, health care, subprime loans, violence and an abyssal deficit sould deserve more attention from the tax payers! But apparently there are still too many people like you happy to contribute your $ to wars all around the world, based on lies from your own administration! I accept your view eventhough I believe it is completely wrong because the result turned out to be negative for all of us, and the world certainly did not become safer.
If you had the chance to travel a bit around the world, just have a look at the US embassies, they all look now like fortresses, guess why...
You see, back in Europe we are a bit more pragmatic, eventhough they are some blind followers of your destructive policy, and the majority of the population is simply tired to have to pay for obvious political mistakes whereas at the same time most of the country in Europe are facing big internal challenges and this applies to Switzerland too.
The big American dream that we all had has long gone...

"Strange, because with another quick look at a world map the itinerary is: Afghanistan - Russia - Moldova - Romania - Serbia - Kosovo - Montenegro - Italy.
The solution is: you keep spreading your lies about albanians, I'll keep saying mines about serbs.
The truth is that criminality has not a passport. You can't support your nationalism with populist deceptions.
Take care.
(Skerdilajd, 19 February 2008 10:08)"

An educated person who can read a world map would see that Afganishtan does not border Russia. It actually borders Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Tajikistan in the north. Then you have to cross Kazachstan, Russia (finally, but relatively small), Ukraine, Moldova, Romania, Serbia, and Albania. My previous one is the shortest route (and time is money). I am sure that Serbia does everything to prevent drugs smuggling through its territory. I am not spreading lies. You are because you cannot get your facts straight. Criminality does indeed have no passport and it will for sure not be a Kosovo one (because it does not exist like your "country" (colony would be a better word)). I am just surprised that after years of spreading lies about Serbs now you guys react so sensitively when we decided to follow your successful approach.

"An educated man, knows also that it is not the distance the most important issue on trafficking. It is: How easy it is in certain countries to cross the borders. How corrupt is the country. And how strong are the criminal groups. Well. Talking about russian mafia, or criminal groups of Serbia, I think it is useless. Their fame is universal. There is criminality everywhere, but there is no country in Europe, where gangs and criminality is so strong to even be able to eliminate a premier, like they did in Serbia. And if Afghanistan has no territorial connection, no problem, because drug dealers know very well the offices of the highly corrupted Aeroflot. An educated man like you should know that we are living in the XXI century. Distances are not important. "It is economy, stupid" - Ronald Reagan.
(Skerdilajd, 20 February 2008 11:03)"

Apparently you are well educated in drug smuggling (unlike me, I have no interest in that whatsoever)and so you know all the ins and out (maybe you are one yourself). By the way, in your colony a war criminal/terrorist/drugs criminal made it to PM so what does that say about Kosovo? So in Iran, Turkey and Bulgaria there are no corrupt people that are willing to close their eyes? Why bother going through all the trouble. I am sure the drugs maffia can arrange a plane and fly directly from Afghanistan to Pristina (maybe not, that would attrackt to much attention). Well maybe one day Kosovo will have its own airline and since Afghanistan was among the first countries to recognize you it would be nice to award them with a direct flight (on the way to Afghanistan one can take young men that will fight with NATO against the Taliban and one the way back fresh opium that will be processed in Kosovo). By the way, Aeroflot does not fly to Kabul, but I guess you meant that they can use Aeroflot from other countries. I think that Serbia was well aware of Kosovo's practices and how they had organized things and that the Kosovo drugs gangs were a driving force to create problems so eventually nobody would be bothering them (NATO has been quite blind). I am not sure if you guys are living in the 21st century. Talking about economy, beside drugs and some other illegal activities you guys do not have much of an economy anyway (apparently the construction business is doing well, especially religious buildings are in high demand). This will be my last reply to you. Every time you reply you give me so many opportunities to reply and make fun of you and your false arguments. It is too easy and I already lost my interest.

PS. B92, please post my reply as it is now (yes, I make fun but it is not insulting (he is asking for it)).

to 59:
Alto Adige were well managed by passed italian governors?
it is, if you mean to arrest terrorist (etnic germans) and impose italian language as well as that german dialect that that people speack.
than we sand them a lot of money, but as they are etnic german, they new how to usw it on the right way, not buyng weapons, not investing in dope.
kosovo indipendence it's just an unavoidable mistake, we (european people) gonna pay for it very mutch, you all k.inhabitants will be first.
congratulations, if it make you happy