EU to postpone sending mission to Kosovo

Its not going to happen because its illegal! Just a hallow threat from the EU.

It must be difficult for the Albanians to put on a brave face and maintain their faith that illegal Independence will ever happen when day after day they see nothing happen except allot of hollow threats and promises that lead to nowhere, its now the middle of January 2008 and Kosovo is no more closer to Independence than this time last year, but our Albanian friends actually believe they are just days or weeks away from it, just like they felt last month and the month before and the month before that month and so on...

What a controversial title!!
Serbian Elections will not postpone EU Mission, ... but the lack of legal grounds will!!!
Nice one!

They will never find the legal grounds unless this goes through the UNSC first, so if not even the secretary general has approved it, what are the hoping for? Is there really a point, I ask, seeing as though there is already a UNMIK? Now there will be an EUMIK. What about status?

According to Beta’s sources, most EU member-states believe that there are not enough legal grounds for sending the mission based on Article 10 of UN Security Council Resolution 1244.

-Something tells me that this mission won't happen any soon. And it strange that majority won't dare to send even a mission in Kosovo which makes me wonder or believe that majority does not actually support illegal independence. They are all aware that EU breaches the law and by acting so the UN is losing its reputation and the purpose of its existance becoming meaningless. Furthermore, even Mr Ban did not give the green light for the mission. This is really amusing!

It's truly amazing how the albanians are in need of a "parent" (EU/UNMIK) to govern them. What does this state about the current residents of KosovO - they're unmanageable & out of control.

To correct Funcakes comment in yesterday's posting - it sucks to be albanian.....not to be Serb!

CCCC

Kostunica wins again, as expected. A salute to the greatest PM of Serbia to date. :)

lili,
Cop yourself on. The EU and the UN are entirely different bodies and decisions made at one do not apply to the other.

Ahmet Isufi,
Unless or until the UNSC gives the go ahead for an EU mission, those "posts" that are being "reserved" will only gather dust and cobwebs.

Funcakes,
You may have no respect for the UN but fortunately there are many influential individuals that do.

This development from the EU is of great significance. It reinforces my belief that the tide is turning.

yeah baby, as soon as serbia says no eu (and therefore no security for eu-investments or new serb and russian owners) suddenly out of the blue the legality is getting important!

as our boys from south-serbia told us for days, the farmers union doesn´t need serbia at all!

how come the eu-bunch is getting super-lawyers over night ???

is it still "just cyprus", as the western propaganda calls one of it own members ???

"the West must ask itself whether a free Kosovo is worth further humiliating a volatile, Russia-backed Belgrade in the heart of the Balkans. This is one small, poor Eastern state that the EU may eventually want more than it wants the EU."

do you hear the bells ring? let´s see what future brings.

"The training of the judiciary and police officials needed for the EU mission is not yet complete, and there is still recruiting to be done."

Are you kidding me? You mean to tell me that as the EU was planning on sending a mission on January 28, they didn't even have all the recruitment for a judiciary and security apparatus? And to top it off that this was being done under half-baked ideas of legality? This is a major blow to EU credibility and a clear sign that what Brussels had in mind for Kosovo was ill-planned, half-baked, and questionably legal. I thought EUMIK was supposed to be a step up from UNMIK! If the EU were a student in my class, I'd fail them for not only not being prepared, but also for trying to cheat their way through an assignment.

And Peter, your're absolutely right. Regardless of the credibility of the EU Mission, it's legality is virtually zero if there is no UN resolution to put the stamp of approval on it.

Looks like more concessions to Belgrade are on the way!

Bmursila and others are right. The lack of legal grounds is a very important concern and could erode the credibility of the EU. Why would we assume that EU is better than the UN to begin with? The fact is that Serbia has already lost the majority of Kosovo, so the role of the EU (and others) should be to pressure Pristina to make any concessions so that Serbia can accept this and allow everyone to move on. Partition, minority rights, etc. It seems that Pristina is being encouraged to become independent without any real give and take, and without fulfilling any types of commitments to guarantee long-term peace for the Balkans and its peoples. The EU and others should focus on getting Pristina to make concessions, not on sending a mission bordering on illegality! If the EU and others get the K Albanians to make real concessions, then it would be Belgrade's turn to play, and if Belgrade doesn't at that point, then the mission would make sense. It seems that upsetting Russia and Serbia have come up as more important concerns than long-term peace.

Recruitment for EU Mission is being done as we speak. All IPO(International Police Officers) that are presently working for UNMIK have been asked to submit their aplication.Some arnking offciers from Western countries presently working for UNMIK , the EU allready has reserved some of the post for them once the conversion ocurres. I can name several police stations where we have IPO on temporary bases right now since those spots have been reserved for future EU mission.EXAMPLE: Britain is sending a new contingent by th end of Month and several posts in different stations are reserved for them since they will jump from UNMIK to EU in short period of time.

Unfortunately, Balkan has been the victim and the battlefield of the superpower interests. Although many of us just rub their hands because of the “strong” stand from Russia related to Kosovo status, very few know that the victim are still the Balkan countries. If Serbia doesn’t negotiate the independent Kosovo with an EU place, then Serbia will loose European perspective and Kosovo that never has been any good to us. Russia doesn’t need Kosovo. Everyone educated know what they need. Russia needs to do their job with “mani pulite” with Serbia help. At the end Serbia will pay as has been paid until now. Many Serbs will be divided into other countries and we can do nothing about it. Blind nationalism is not good for anyone in Balkan. Balkan will be in peace when Kosovo will be independent and all Balkan countries will see each-other as partner to develop their economy and have prosperity. I don’t know any Balkan country that cannot be prosper because all of them have good recourses in people intellectuality and natural resources. They just need peace and partnership. Balkan countries have 2 choices: either to leave their borders untouched and live as Switzerland with its own communities French, Italians, and Germans or renegotiate borders after being for long time in EU where the real borders doesn’t matter. Both choices have two things in common: 1. Peace and partnership and 2. It needs to be member of EU for long time. There is no time to loose with nationalism. Let start understand that what we need for ourselves we have to earn the trust by doing the same thing to others. Let Kosovo free. Let Kosovo independent. Let Serbia to be Europe. Let start better future of Balkan. Let superpower out of Balkan including Russia too.

I wrote more in my previous post...

several ( all ) lines above the newsweek-quotation were cut out and what is really very shameful for the B92-censors...

it was neither racist,nationalistic nor hate-induced.

I was acutually referring to the "fusical luicidation" comment...

seems like the Slobo-regime is still alive! :)

In Serb Camp we have started to hear this mythical if not science fiction of an independent (self proclaimed) "Serbian Republic" or "Srpska Republic". I don't believe there is moral or judicial ground to make a territory that was directly hit by GENOCIDE to become a mono-ethnic, mafia driven, independent nation OR join Serbia. SO what I truly want to say is, this ridiculous idea is against "international law". What if Mladic is hiding there?

What message are we sending to the world if we let countries who hide IWC join EU or let self proclaimed "republics" to become independent?


But if we must, than Presheva Vally and Medvegja, Cameria, Cyprus and every territory out there deserves independence.

the legal ground is 1244: and instead of having people from all the world in kosova,we will have them coming only from europe,that's all!Europeens are UN members aren't they?so they are UN too!

If I was a Serb I would want EU in Kosova/o. With or without EU mission in Kosova/o independence will happen. This mission will be in Kosova/o to monitor the progress made between elasticities so that the Serbs can have a place to complain. It is not too far fetched to imagine a scenario where Kosova/o declares independence and USA, France, UK, Italy, Germany and other state recognize it. If this happens and there is no EU mission because the Serbs insisted for it not to be there then I think that would be worst for the local Serbs. I also think it would be better for us Albanians as that would mean full independence and not one supervised by the EU. So when I hear Serbs being against this mission. I cannot help but wonder if they're actually working for our goals. What if independence is recognized before EU mission arrives, and EU mission cannot make it in Kosova/o because of difficulties from Moscow? Then in Kosova/o we will have NATO to defend us from any possible Serbian attack but nobody to limit our independence. That would be what we Albanians have been asking for a long long time, but compromised into accepting EU in Kosova/o.

Great no independance for Kosovo, means we can remove the Republica Srpska.

Does B92 wish to reveal its 'sources' of this joyous news for Little Russians?

"What message are we sending to the world if we let countries who hide IWC join EU or let self proclaimed "republics" to become independent?


But if we must, than Presheva Vally and Medvegja, Cameria, Cyprus and every territory out there deserves independence.
(KS, 16 January 2008 01:12"

first of all, here he ( or she? ) unveils his/her real face by speaking up for the albanian populated part of northern Greece, a further part of southern Serbia and other areas... Greater Albania, so to say!

but what is really funny here is:

""What message are we sending to the world if we let self proclaimed "republics" to become independent?"

that´s exactly what the serbian government and many others are saying all the time! ( and the Albanians refuse to understand ).

in times the EU is reaching out for the southern-european countries and borders are being eradicated it is absolutely and completely absurd to erect new ones.

that´s something for you to think about, my dear.

KS

Mladic is the reason why Holland and Belgium would veto Serbian membership in the EU, Presevo Valley and the other majority Albanian territories are not seeking independence (nor is it being offered or discussed. On what grounds?).

To conclude, one has nothing to do with the other.

harry,

you are abandoning the serb post-bosnian state for 12 years now.

may god help us, that you destroy the repulika srpska in that way for the next several 100 years to come!

;-)

isn´t it ironic, the pristinars can travel with their pseudo-passports of unmik in a dozent of states, while a restbosnian passport is accepted in iran, turkey and albania only!

is that a victory of greater-sarajevo too, or is it something you care about seriously???

UN is not the name of the game anymore.

Things have switched to COORDINATED RECOGNITION OF INDEPENDENCE.

These UN meetings don't really mean much nowadays.

Kosovo will declare idependence early next month. USA and all EU members, save two or three, will recognize it imediately.
So face the reality dear friends, let freedom ring and peace prevail.

No one wants to realize, that this mission is on hold until there is an agreement. So for those arm chair quarterback keep quarterbacking and there is always a rotation of police and offical for UNMIK not EU. If you have lived there you would know when they rotate. Yearly if where there and notice new faces. But alot of you from both camps don't live there so you would not know and they don't publish who is new and who is not. Don't worry the EU will get there sooner or later.

Milan,

I dont know if you are serb or not but, You are the only one from serbian side who is reasonable. Serbia has to do that thing to accept Kosova independence and start new era with albanians. This is in Serbian hands. I am very sure that Serbia was pushed all the time by Rusia for all what they did. You know very well that even when YU was alive Russians though Serbian Politicans wanted to Destroy YU and Kill TITO. Am I right? So please if you are serb share this information to you people and make understand them that they are manipulating by Russians and that just for their interests.

I agree with Milan as well.

it seems to me that serbia's goal at this point is to simply play the role of the spoiler. it's a sort of false pride that occupies space in their minds and the reality on the ground suggets that kosova has been nothing but a burden to them.
i'm sure many of you are familiar w/the process of removing a band-aid from your skin. when you attempt to slowly remove it, you experience more pain because the sensitive skin is stretched and if there's hair involved...ouch! on the flipside, if you yank it off all of a sudden, there's little to no pain involved.
i would suggest to all you naysayers who oppose independence that you should all brace yourselves for the yanking off of that band-aid. it's the best medicine for both parties and most of you know it but again your false pride blinds you from realizing it.

Recruitment for EU Mission is being done as we speak. All IPO(International Police Officers) that are presently working for UNMIK have been asked to submit their aplication.Some arnking offciers from Western countries presently working for UNMIK , the EU allready has reserved some of the post for them once the conversion ocurres. I can name several police stations where we have IPO on temporary bases right now since those spots have been reserved for future EU mission.EXAMPLE: Britain is sending a new contingent by th end of Month and several posts in different stations are reserved for them since they will jump from UNMIK to EU in short period of time.

the legal ground is 1244: and instead of having people from all the world in kosova,we will have them coming only from europe,that's all!Europeens are UN members aren't they?so they are UN too!

UN is not the name of the game anymore.

Things have switched to COORDINATED RECOGNITION OF INDEPENDENCE.

These UN meetings don't really mean much nowadays.

If I was a Serb I would want EU in Kosova/o. With or without EU mission in Kosova/o independence will happen. This mission will be in Kosova/o to monitor the progress made between elasticities so that the Serbs can have a place to complain. It is not too far fetched to imagine a scenario where Kosova/o declares independence and USA, France, UK, Italy, Germany and other state recognize it. If this happens and there is no EU mission because the Serbs insisted for it not to be there then I think that would be worst for the local Serbs. I also think it would be better for us Albanians as that would mean full independence and not one supervised by the EU. So when I hear Serbs being against this mission. I cannot help but wonder if they're actually working for our goals. What if independence is recognized before EU mission arrives, and EU mission cannot make it in Kosova/o because of difficulties from Moscow? Then in Kosova/o we will have NATO to defend us from any possible Serbian attack but nobody to limit our independence. That would be what we Albanians have been asking for a long long time, but compromised into accepting EU in Kosova/o.

In Serb Camp we have started to hear this mythical if not science fiction of an independent (self proclaimed) "Serbian Republic" or "Srpska Republic". I don't believe there is moral or judicial ground to make a territory that was directly hit by GENOCIDE to become a mono-ethnic, mafia driven, independent nation OR join Serbia. SO what I truly want to say is, this ridiculous idea is against "international law". What if Mladic is hiding there?

What message are we sending to the world if we let countries who hide IWC join EU or let self proclaimed "republics" to become independent?


But if we must, than Presheva Vally and Medvegja, Cameria, Cyprus and every territory out there deserves independence.

What a controversial title!!
Serbian Elections will not postpone EU Mission, ... but the lack of legal grounds will!!!
Nice one!

Unfortunately, Balkan has been the victim and the battlefield of the superpower interests. Although many of us just rub their hands because of the “strong” stand from Russia related to Kosovo status, very few know that the victim are still the Balkan countries. If Serbia doesn’t negotiate the independent Kosovo with an EU place, then Serbia will loose European perspective and Kosovo that never has been any good to us. Russia doesn’t need Kosovo. Everyone educated know what they need. Russia needs to do their job with “mani pulite” with Serbia help. At the end Serbia will pay as has been paid until now. Many Serbs will be divided into other countries and we can do nothing about it. Blind nationalism is not good for anyone in Balkan. Balkan will be in peace when Kosovo will be independent and all Balkan countries will see each-other as partner to develop their economy and have prosperity. I don’t know any Balkan country that cannot be prosper because all of them have good recourses in people intellectuality and natural resources. They just need peace and partnership. Balkan countries have 2 choices: either to leave their borders untouched and live as Switzerland with its own communities French, Italians, and Germans or renegotiate borders after being for long time in EU where the real borders doesn’t matter. Both choices have two things in common: 1. Peace and partnership and 2. It needs to be member of EU for long time. There is no time to loose with nationalism. Let start understand that what we need for ourselves we have to earn the trust by doing the same thing to others. Let Kosovo free. Let Kosovo independent. Let Serbia to be Europe. Let start better future of Balkan. Let superpower out of Balkan including Russia too.

Does B92 wish to reveal its 'sources' of this joyous news for Little Russians?

Great no independance for Kosovo, means we can remove the Republica Srpska.

They will never find the legal grounds unless this goes through the UNSC first, so if not even the secretary general has approved it, what are the hoping for? Is there really a point, I ask, seeing as though there is already a UNMIK? Now there will be an EUMIK. What about status?

Bmursila and others are right. The lack of legal grounds is a very important concern and could erode the credibility of the EU. Why would we assume that EU is better than the UN to begin with? The fact is that Serbia has already lost the majority of Kosovo, so the role of the EU (and others) should be to pressure Pristina to make any concessions so that Serbia can accept this and allow everyone to move on. Partition, minority rights, etc. It seems that Pristina is being encouraged to become independent without any real give and take, and without fulfilling any types of commitments to guarantee long-term peace for the Balkans and its peoples. The EU and others should focus on getting Pristina to make concessions, not on sending a mission bordering on illegality! If the EU and others get the K Albanians to make real concessions, then it would be Belgrade's turn to play, and if Belgrade doesn't at that point, then the mission would make sense. It seems that upsetting Russia and Serbia have come up as more important concerns than long-term peace.

"The training of the judiciary and police officials needed for the EU mission is not yet complete, and there is still recruiting to be done."

Are you kidding me? You mean to tell me that as the EU was planning on sending a mission on January 28, they didn't even have all the recruitment for a judiciary and security apparatus? And to top it off that this was being done under half-baked ideas of legality? This is a major blow to EU credibility and a clear sign that what Brussels had in mind for Kosovo was ill-planned, half-baked, and questionably legal. I thought EUMIK was supposed to be a step up from UNMIK! If the EU were a student in my class, I'd fail them for not only not being prepared, but also for trying to cheat their way through an assignment.

And Peter, your're absolutely right. Regardless of the credibility of the EU Mission, it's legality is virtually zero if there is no UN resolution to put the stamp of approval on it.

Looks like more concessions to Belgrade are on the way!

Its not going to happen because its illegal! Just a hallow threat from the EU.

It must be difficult for the Albanians to put on a brave face and maintain their faith that illegal Independence will ever happen when day after day they see nothing happen except allot of hollow threats and promises that lead to nowhere, its now the middle of January 2008 and Kosovo is no more closer to Independence than this time last year, but our Albanian friends actually believe they are just days or weeks away from it, just like they felt last month and the month before and the month before that month and so on...

According to Beta’s sources, most EU member-states believe that there are not enough legal grounds for sending the mission based on Article 10 of UN Security Council Resolution 1244.

-Something tells me that this mission won't happen any soon. And it strange that majority won't dare to send even a mission in Kosovo which makes me wonder or believe that majority does not actually support illegal independence. They are all aware that EU breaches the law and by acting so the UN is losing its reputation and the purpose of its existance becoming meaningless. Furthermore, even Mr Ban did not give the green light for the mission. This is really amusing!

It's truly amazing how the albanians are in need of a "parent" (EU/UNMIK) to govern them. What does this state about the current residents of KosovO - they're unmanageable & out of control.

To correct Funcakes comment in yesterday's posting - it sucks to be albanian.....not to be Serb!

CCCC

yeah baby, as soon as serbia says no eu (and therefore no security for eu-investments or new serb and russian owners) suddenly out of the blue the legality is getting important!

as our boys from south-serbia told us for days, the farmers union doesn´t need serbia at all!

how come the eu-bunch is getting super-lawyers over night ???

is it still "just cyprus", as the western propaganda calls one of it own members ???

lili,
Cop yourself on. The EU and the UN are entirely different bodies and decisions made at one do not apply to the other.

Ahmet Isufi,
Unless or until the UNSC gives the go ahead for an EU mission, those "posts" that are being "reserved" will only gather dust and cobwebs.

Funcakes,
You may have no respect for the UN but fortunately there are many influential individuals that do.

This development from the EU is of great significance. It reinforces my belief that the tide is turning.

"the West must ask itself whether a free Kosovo is worth further humiliating a volatile, Russia-backed Belgrade in the heart of the Balkans. This is one small, poor Eastern state that the EU may eventually want more than it wants the EU."

do you hear the bells ring? let´s see what future brings.

Kostunica wins again, as expected. A salute to the greatest PM of Serbia to date. :)

I wrote more in my previous post...

several ( all ) lines above the newsweek-quotation were cut out and what is really very shameful for the B92-censors...

it was neither racist,nationalistic nor hate-induced.

I was acutually referring to the "fusical luicidation" comment...

seems like the Slobo-regime is still alive! :)

"What message are we sending to the world if we let countries who hide IWC join EU or let self proclaimed "republics" to become independent?


But if we must, than Presheva Vally and Medvegja, Cameria, Cyprus and every territory out there deserves independence.
(KS, 16 January 2008 01:12"

first of all, here he ( or she? ) unveils his/her real face by speaking up for the albanian populated part of northern Greece, a further part of southern Serbia and other areas... Greater Albania, so to say!

but what is really funny here is:

""What message are we sending to the world if we let self proclaimed "republics" to become independent?"

that´s exactly what the serbian government and many others are saying all the time! ( and the Albanians refuse to understand ).

in times the EU is reaching out for the southern-european countries and borders are being eradicated it is absolutely and completely absurd to erect new ones.

that´s something for you to think about, my dear.

Kosovo will declare idependence early next month. USA and all EU members, save two or three, will recognize it imediately.
So face the reality dear friends, let freedom ring and peace prevail.

No one wants to realize, that this mission is on hold until there is an agreement. So for those arm chair quarterback keep quarterbacking and there is always a rotation of police and offical for UNMIK not EU. If you have lived there you would know when they rotate. Yearly if where there and notice new faces. But alot of you from both camps don't live there so you would not know and they don't publish who is new and who is not. Don't worry the EU will get there sooner or later.

Milan,

I dont know if you are serb or not but, You are the only one from serbian side who is reasonable. Serbia has to do that thing to accept Kosova independence and start new era with albanians. This is in Serbian hands. I am very sure that Serbia was pushed all the time by Rusia for all what they did. You know very well that even when YU was alive Russians though Serbian Politicans wanted to Destroy YU and Kill TITO. Am I right? So please if you are serb share this information to you people and make understand them that they are manipulating by Russians and that just for their interests.

KS

Mladic is the reason why Holland and Belgium would veto Serbian membership in the EU, Presevo Valley and the other majority Albanian territories are not seeking independence (nor is it being offered or discussed. On what grounds?).

To conclude, one has nothing to do with the other.

harry,

you are abandoning the serb post-bosnian state for 12 years now.

may god help us, that you destroy the repulika srpska in that way for the next several 100 years to come!

;-)

isn´t it ironic, the pristinars can travel with their pseudo-passports of unmik in a dozent of states, while a restbosnian passport is accepted in iran, turkey and albania only!

is that a victory of greater-sarajevo too, or is it something you care about seriously???

I agree with Milan as well.

it seems to me that serbia's goal at this point is to simply play the role of the spoiler. it's a sort of false pride that occupies space in their minds and the reality on the ground suggets that kosova has been nothing but a burden to them.
i'm sure many of you are familiar w/the process of removing a band-aid from your skin. when you attempt to slowly remove it, you experience more pain because the sensitive skin is stretched and if there's hair involved...ouch! on the flipside, if you yank it off all of a sudden, there's little to no pain involved.
i would suggest to all you naysayers who oppose independence that you should all brace yourselves for the yanking off of that band-aid. it's the best medicine for both parties and most of you know it but again your false pride blinds you from realizing it.