To: ROD from USA.
No Kosovar has ever had any conection to Bin LADEN and also you seem to know who killed Dragan in Klina, why don't you tell authorites who the murder suspect is. I think you way out of line.
Rod
You seem to portray yourself as a very interesting character, yet far from the world trends, and your comment about the Kosova Albanians is equivalent of a third grader essay.
Specifically the paragraph where you say that Kosova Albanian leaders were, or are, aligned with world terrorist Osama Bin Laden says enough about your character. That type of propaganda by all international terms is outdated. The international community does not buy that anymore, it is considered a 19Th century propaganda, today we live in a computer age and you not fooling anyone, so don’t try it, it is not working anymore.
It is not working neither if I try to gain politically by saying that the people n Belgrade were dancing in the streets in the wake of 9/11, that would be cheap propaganda.
" I feel that my tax dollars are being wasted on Kosovo"
Majority does not feel the same as you, their tax dollars were used to save lives.
You seem to use the notion terrorism very freely giving an impression that you know what it means, and that you are an expert in linguistics, and you not that at all. I suggest you go to Wikipedia and read about it first, and put that notion into the context of the war of Kosova, you will undoubtedly conclude that KLA was a freedom fighting force, but in drawing the conclusion you have to be reasonable with yourself.
In your comment when you talk about Milosevic’s crack down on Albanian uprising from deep inside your soul you approve the atrocities committed by Milosevic regime, that line alone is a reflection of your true identity and your profile.
I agree there were atrocities committed by Albanians and that is a natural reaction after all the killings, rapes and expulsion of near a 1000,000 people from their homes committed by the serbs.
And by the way by any means do I approve of what happened to some serbs after the war. Actually I was praying after the war that such things would not take place, knowing that something like that would likely to happen after such brutal atrocities the Albanians endured.
Serbs that left Kosova after the war, they had bloody hands. No one would stay at the crime scene right? There are serbs who did not do anything, and they are still in Kosova with clean conscious.
Who should we blame for everything that happened in Yugoslavia, but Serbia.
"Knowing what Albanians have been doing to Serbs, Roma, and others in Kosovo for the past 7 years (Discrimination,Intimidation, Harassment, Expulsion, even Murder), it is clear to me that the American public was duped into supporting the bombig of Yugoslavia.
Based on their actions (past and present) Albanians have no right to an independent Kosovo (not morally or legally)".
No comment. I got you profiled.
"Who joined the Nazis? Who committed genocide in Kosovo during WWII? Who alligned themselves with Osama Bin Laden to start Jihad in Kosovo?"
Cheap Propagnada all over again I commented earlier on this.
No comment I got you profiled.
I find a lot of serbs commenting here who are reasonable and they have posted constructive comments in a civilized manner, but you are not one of them at all.
Jihad in Kosovo? Kosovars alligned with Bin Laden? Are you suggesting Kosovars were implied in 9/11? Rod, are you serious? Do you know that Bin Laden's family was one of the best business partners of your actual presidents' family, even after 9/11? Rod, no one can take you seriosuly with such arguments. As for your questions (you ask and ask and never answer), start better in 1913: who began the killing and the expulsions, as Serbia was granted Kosovo in 1913? You think the Americans have been dubed by bombing Milosevic: do you think it was better let Milosevic expel as many K-Albanians as he wanted to do? Just check the history of the last century of Kosovo. You'll find the answers to your questions there. It's true, there have been crimes against the Serbs too, most of them for revenge. It's shameful, but sometimes it's hard to forgive. Luckily that is stopping, and it has to stop. As for the situation by now: some weeks ago a Serb association hold a meeting in Hotel Grand, in central Prishtina with no security measures at all, speaking Serbian all the time in and outdoors, and no Albanian paid attention to them except for the reporters. You should refresh your Kosovo knowledge, since it seems that you have absolutely no idea of what's going on in Kosovo by now. What makes you think every crime there has an ethnical background? Don't you think many K-Serbs pay for games played elsewhere? Every "ethnical" crime is precious capital for those who are trying to deny Kosovo's independence. Follow this path and you'll have many answers to your questions. Rod, really, you cannot be taken seriously. Indeed you don't even know what you're talking about, maybe the emotions deriving from your far origin puts your logic out of order.
I don't know what you read, but you clearly missed my statement.
My statement says: Some Serbs. Some doesn't mean everybody. I do not see all Serbs repugnant as you twist the meaning of my comment to your justification. In fact, I have respect for a great majority of Serbs who fought and refused for centuries to adoption of Turkish traditions and their religious faith.
When I say some Serbs, I mean Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzhiq, Seselj, and including the ones who use nasty racial name calling and make outrageous geberalization of an entire nation.
You say, you are from USA. Well, so am I. Born and raised in California. And it's rather ironic that you in many of your comments have become a vocal critic of US policies.
What is this? "I hate your country, but I love your dollar"
There is a saying, "The man who can't love his country, can't love any other country."
I am not the least bit concerned about certain poster's opinions of me.
The fact is that Genc,Xhafer, Sidi, and others troll this site constantly and baselessly label anyone who disagrees with their pro-independence views. I see no reason not to point out that terrorism exists in Kosovo, (and has for quite sometime) nor no do I see any wrong in acknowledging to which ethnic group the majority of
these terrorists belong. I never once suggested that Albanians in general are "Repugnent Human Beings", although I certainly believe that this description applies to those who commit acts of terror.
In any event, Xhafer's admissision that he indeed considers Serbs repugnent human beings, only confirms
what I have suspected all along. It's no wonder why he refuses to even to acknowlege that Albanians have committed crimes.
And for the record, I'm American, and my blood is mixed. My feelings on Kosovo has nothing to with Serb Nationalism (as Xhafer has alluded), but it has everything to do with the fact that I feel that my tax dollars are being wasted on Kosovo, specifically Albanians in Kosovo, whose leaders have ties to the same terrorist (Osama Bin Laden) who attacked my country (USA).
My wife (who is Canadian) worked for UNMIK, and spent 2 years in Kosovo.
She witnessed Albanian atrocities against Serbs and others first hand, and NO genc, the killings in Kosovo have not stopped (just ask Dragan Klina).
Knowing what Albanians have been doing to Serbs, Roma, and others in Kosovo for the past 7 years (Discrimination,Intimidation, Harassment, Expulsion, even Murder), it is clear to me that the American public was duped into supporting the bombig of Yugoslavia.
Based on their actions (past and present) Albanians have no right to an independent Kosovo (not morally or legally).
The Serbs have not been angels (and they admit it too), but to say that Serbia is primarily responsible for Kosovo's problems is ridiculous.
Who joined the Nazis? Who committed genocide in Kosovo during WWII? Who alligned themselves with Osama Bin Laden to start Jihad in Kosovo? Who was shooting serb policemen, clergymen, miners, and civillians, which prompted Milosevic's crackdown on Kosovo in the first place? Who expelled destroyed 13% of Kosovo's population (230,000 people) from their homes AFTER the war ended? Who has been attacking and destroying
orthodox churches for the past 7 years (over 150 to date)? Who kills other people for simply for speaking their own native language in public?
We all know that the answer to these questions is NOT
the serbs. It's clear that some people who post on this site (I'm
diplomatic enough not to mention names) need to accept responsibility for their actions, and stop blaming Serbia for all of their problems; because that my friends is what I call "living in Denial."
I really hope B92 doesn't find my comments "too offensive" and that my post sees print. I realize that some people find my views offensive, but as they say here in the USA: "The Truth Hurts."
Gentlemen: i am only trying to add liveliness to the discussion -- instead of the same old boring... "independence is only a matter of time" mantra -- which is (in my opinion) intellectually lazy and, offensive to serbs, and seems with each passing day to be a weak position.
i do not use racist wording and stand by my rigorous analysis which points out some really serious holes in the "independence is only a matter of time" gospel that one reads over an over again for the last 7 years
forgive me if i am too enthusiastic in all this.
It appears that some comments by Blag and Rod have caused a lot of anger. It's quite understandable as Xhafer's comment has caused a bit of anger on me.
But as someone had mentioned previously, Rod, Blag and Xhafer, present their individual views. If you go to the Serbian version you'll see that most of the Serbian commentators have coped with the fact that Kosovo will never be part of Serbia as it once was and wish there was more understanding of Serbian Government on this issue and better bargaining for Serbians in Kosovo.
Xhafer, I have seen those videos on YOU TUBE, but those Serbians chanting in no way represent all 8 million Serbs who want a peaceful end to this issue.
I agree with other commentator's anger and Serbian government should make an official apology as Albanian parlament and UNMIK should do the same for not being able to protect 200000 Serbs who left Kosovo.
In the end, If Kosovo gets its inedependence, I would better wish to see this two nations as good neighbors than eternal enemies.
To Rod:
I think the only news that you read are news provided to you by Blag.
I sugest you to read more than one source of news in order to get a clearer picture of events, and picture it in your mind the possible outcome of the Kosova final status.
Do you have any idea who the contact group consists of?, certainly not Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Spain and Slovakia. All these I mentioned do not have any influence in the capital decesions in the world affairs as you might know.
For you information, Italy's D'Alema just said to prime minister Ceku they favor Independence, so did Vatican, so did Slovenia's Kacin, Check Republic, Switzerland's Calmy Ray and on and on others.
I just do not understand how one sided views you have, and under what morality you think Kosova should remain under serbian rule.
West demonized serbia for the past dacade!? Yes they did and not for being angels of the Balknas.
And Rod you have the audocity to talk about ethnic cleansing, killings, rape and murder,of non Albanias in Kosova?, Blag, fed you wrong information my friend. You had a chance to make this point in the Kosova war for all the above that took place by the serbs, here goes your morality.
Your biased coment revealed your true idendity hiding behind ROD.
Kosova will be Inedepended live with consequences and look in to the future of prosperity and peace for all mankind, rid yourself of evil thinking, clean your soul of inpurities.
Peace.
Dear editor of B92.
Now I am convinced that your news center is a professional one, and unbiased, I commend you for your professionalism.
Thank you for the opportunity extended to all of us to express our opinion in the form of comment.
I appreciate the respect given to our comments, both from the Albanians and Serbs alike.
I agree with your note, we Albanians and Serbs have to show respect to each other in these comments.
This is the fundamental path towards understanding and having constructive debate.
Due to a number of complaints over the use of inappropriate language in the comments to our news, we hereby inform you that any further designation of entire nations/ethnic groups/peoples/ as terroritst, fascist, genocidal, etc. will result in the exclusion of that comment.
You are all welcome to lead a constructive debate in a civilised manner here. Anything less is simply not up to B92 standards.
Rod, It's interesting Russia invited Ceku on a State visit to address their Duma. That the Macedonian PM went on a state visit to Pristina. That Czech rep said their nation would unilaterally recognize Kosova. C. Burns of US State continues to support Kosova independence. And, much more. I guess the reason why comments were not allowed on "Fresh Delays Likely for Kosovo Independence" piece is because, there will be none.
Tsk, when will people who support genocide and ethnic cleansing learn their lesson that this state policy just doesn't work. It backfires and all those ultranationalists are proving it every day. It's Serbia that's being forced to stop their backpedaling into the same dark policies of slobo and his thugs. EU said that their new constitution has taken a turn for the worse regarding minority rights and judicial independence. Yep, looks like EU is forcing Serbia to prove to them that they are 'meeting EU standards". James.
Do you really think that Serbia is that important that public in the west cares? Serbia is demonised because it is mostly responsible for what happened. I dont remember any military, bosnian or croatian marching towards Belgrade, do you? Serbia is definately not the only one that has committed evil in the wars in the last decade, but it has committed the most crimes and hence why everything comes back to them first Time that serbian people accepted the truth and not constantly fight something that everyone else is well aware of. Time to stop all the conspiracy theories. Noone else will admit anything until Serbia does and thats obvious why.
A note on russia and UN resolution that peole keep comenting about. I think that Russia wont support it..but also wont not support it. ie. i think people will find that Russia will abstain from voting...hence noone then can accuse Russia of double standards, both at home by separatists and anyone away. Hence that brings end to precedent arguement, not that it was really an arguement given that powerful countries do whatever they want anyway and Serbia is not. I know this may be difficult to accept by some people.
You ask and answer many question there, however you are missing a very fundamental point. Kosovars are not governing Kosovo neither. It is corrupted UN that is doing that. In keeping the status quo thees officials have become rich, and nobody will invest in a region that is not really defined. All that creates these problems that you are trying to blame it on one side. As for Spain being a good example of EU country, well I don't think Serbia has treated and is treating Albanians like Spain is treating its minorities. Therefore I have a problem seeing how Spanish system would work in Serbia. In fact this Serbian elite is not much different from Milosevic's political elite, they treat Albanians the same. The language if full of hate. I think Kosovo will become independent, which will calm Albanians, and EU will have to guarantee the rights of Serbs in Kosovo. Serbia has to fix its own problems and mob that runs the country, if they ever think to join EU.
You call Albanians terrorists constantly. Well, I got some news for you, just as you see all Kosovo Albanians as repugnant human beings, we see some Serbs in an equal way.
It looks very silly when ballkan fascists try to make someone look worst then themselves. And you sir, seem like a masked genius making ludicrous and despicable insults to a nation that just doesn't want to live together with your kind.
Your analogies of how Spain and several slavic countries which do not see eye to eye when it comes to Kosovo indepenence is absurd and wishful thinking on your part.
True western democrats are not fools, my friend! They know what Serbs have done in Kosovo and all over the Ballkans.
Go to YOU TUBE, and you'll see videos of Serbian demonstrators chanting and singing hate songs all over Serbia, "Ubij Siptare."
That you continue to write sensless nonsense is beyond me!
By the way, if you are so nostalgic about the lost Kosovo, why don't you contribute to the Serbian cause by moving down there instead of writing absurdity behind the pseudo names.
can you answer me: Is Serbia able to solve the Kosovo problems? As for your questions the answer is: Is Kosovo a state? Who rules it, who is responsable for security and law there? Not the Kosovars, at any case not enough to steer it. Just reverse your point of view and it will be very simple to get the answers. How can you expect a land which is unspecified to be a normal land with jobs and guarantees for everyone? And please, stop the speculations: the killings have stopped since long ago, the wording “Albanian terrorists” has disappeared from vocabulary of the most serbs. Of course there are many problems there, they will be resolved by making things clear, by making Kosovo a state of law, not by acting against the firm will of its inhabitants.
As for the Spanish position: it’s biased since Kosovo WILL be multinational, no one speaks of an Albanian Kosovo. As for offering their experience, I know that the most of Basques and Catalans are in favour of the existing state. Were 90% of them for independence from Spain, that would have token place long ago and peacefully. The Spanish experience of dealing with such problems comes too late. As for Solana, he has been always contrary to the K-independence, even when he was on charge in NATO. He even invented that absurd 55% hurdle in Montenegro only to keep the non-functionning Union alive.
Blag,
you’ve flooded the comment space of each article with your messianic comments, repeating always the same. Are you sure you can foresee the future? Are you sure Serbia is a regional power, which can determine the life of its neighbours (the last one who tried to put it into practice was Milosevic, and we know what happened then. Of course Serbia will not be bombed any more, but bombs are not the only mean to make sb. more reasonable. Do you know that any Constitution can be changed easily, that’s not the Bible?). Well, sitting in NYC you can convince yourself of everything and the opposite of everything, you can construct any theory and deconstruct it as easily. My advice: Take some months break and settle in Serbia and Kosovo for a while, live and job there. It’s much a better way of having real information than getting news from Internet by selecting the sources.
Actually, Albi, Blag makes some very good points. The West has been demonizing Serbs for the past decade now, and continues to blame serbia solely for all of the
region's problems (Micheal Polt's recent interview with B92 is a prime example).
Nato has occupied Kosovo for 7 years now, there is no Serbian army there now, no Serb politicians in power, and over 2/3 of the Serbs were expelled from Kosovo.
Clearly the "serb demons" are no longer in any position to threaten Kosovo,
and haven't been in quite some time; yet the situation still hasn't improved, in fact it's become worse.
Do all citizens in Kosovo have equal rights and religious freedom? ... NO
Has the etnic cleansing stopped? .... No
Has the Killing stopped?...No
Is Kosovo now safe for all of it's war refugees to return home?...NO
Does Kosovo have a viable economy? .... NO
Do most people in Kosovo have jobs? ...NO
Is kosovo run by competent politicians who govern by rule of law?.... NO
Is Kosovo a multi-ethnic society? ... No
Is Kosovo the No. 01 center in europe for drug trafficking, sex slaves, illegal weapons, and terrorist recruitment? ...Yes
Clearly the "it's all Serbia's fault" excuse has run it's course, and countries like the US, UK, Germany, and others are scrambling to explain to their respective publics why they have invested billions of dollars into "making Kosovo a sustainable, multi-ethinic democracy" -and have acheived nothing!
Spain was one of the most vocal supporters of Nato's bombing of Yugoslavia, and subsequest occupation of Kosovo. In fact, Nato's secretary general at that time, Javier Solana, is a Spaniard. Yet as we see now 7 years later, Spain is against independence for Kosovo. Other EU countries such as Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Greece have all expressed similair sentiments in recent months.
Even Slovenia, whose government once insisted on independence for Kosovo, is now advocating a mutally agreed solution. So bearing these facts in mind, it is quite possible that the other western nations are waking up, and starting to re-think their earlier pro-independence positions.
I dont understand how B92 is posting your dreams and illusions here!!
I just have a question for you Blag;
Do you really understand what you write? because i dont get it.
read it again
"The West's plan for independence is a comedy of errors. An absolute fiasco.
For 5 yrs we hear non-stop how independence is a given fact and right around the corner.... and now delay, delay, delay! For 5 years Serbia is consistently demonized... yet now increasing amount of countries reject independence and the EU say's "Let's forget about Mladic and Karadzic"!
Frankly I think the West is purposely sabotaging K independence."
I have no more comment..
you are shooting yourself in the foot.
The West's plan for independence is a comedy of errors. An absolute fiasco.
For 5 yrs we hear non-stop how independence is a given fact and right around the corner.... and now delay, delay, delay! For 5 years Serbia is consistently demonized... yet now increasing amount of countries reject independence and the EU say's "Let's forget about Mladic and Karadzic"!
Frankly I think the West is purposely sabotaging K independence.
The West's plan for independence is a comedy of errors. An absolute fiasco.
For 5 yrs we hear non-stop how independence is a given fact and right around the corner.... and now delay, delay, delay! For 5 years Serbia is consistently demonized... yet now increasing amount of countries reject independence and the EU say's "Let's forget about Mladic and Karadzic"!
Frankly I think the West is purposely sabotaging K independence.
I dont understand how B92 is posting your dreams and illusions here!!
I just have a question for you Blag;
Do you really understand what you write? because i dont get it.
read it again
"The West's plan for independence is a comedy of errors. An absolute fiasco.
For 5 yrs we hear non-stop how independence is a given fact and right around the corner.... and now delay, delay, delay! For 5 years Serbia is consistently demonized... yet now increasing amount of countries reject independence and the EU say's "Let's forget about Mladic and Karadzic"!
Frankly I think the West is purposely sabotaging K independence."
I have no more comment..
you are shooting yourself in the foot.
Actually, Albi, Blag makes some very good points. The West has been demonizing Serbs for the past decade now, and continues to blame serbia solely for all of the
region's problems (Micheal Polt's recent interview with B92 is a prime example).
Nato has occupied Kosovo for 7 years now, there is no Serbian army there now, no Serb politicians in power, and over 2/3 of the Serbs were expelled from Kosovo.
Clearly the "serb demons" are no longer in any position to threaten Kosovo,
and haven't been in quite some time; yet the situation still hasn't improved, in fact it's become worse.
Do all citizens in Kosovo have equal rights and religious freedom? ... NO
Has the etnic cleansing stopped? .... No
Has the Killing stopped?...No
Is Kosovo now safe for all of it's war refugees to return home?...NO
Does Kosovo have a viable economy? .... NO
Do most people in Kosovo have jobs? ...NO
Is kosovo run by competent politicians who govern by rule of law?.... NO
Is Kosovo a multi-ethnic society? ... No
Is Kosovo the No. 01 center in europe for drug trafficking, sex slaves, illegal weapons, and terrorist recruitment? ...Yes
Clearly the "it's all Serbia's fault" excuse has run it's course, and countries like the US, UK, Germany, and others are scrambling to explain to their respective publics why they have invested billions of dollars into "making Kosovo a sustainable, multi-ethinic democracy" -and have acheived nothing!
Spain was one of the most vocal supporters of Nato's bombing of Yugoslavia, and subsequest occupation of Kosovo. In fact, Nato's secretary general at that time, Javier Solana, is a Spaniard. Yet as we see now 7 years later, Spain is against independence for Kosovo. Other EU countries such as Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Greece have all expressed similair sentiments in recent months.
Even Slovenia, whose government once insisted on independence for Kosovo, is now advocating a mutally agreed solution. So bearing these facts in mind, it is quite possible that the other western nations are waking up, and starting to re-think their earlier pro-independence positions.
can you answer me: Is Serbia able to solve the Kosovo problems? As for your questions the answer is: Is Kosovo a state? Who rules it, who is responsable for security and law there? Not the Kosovars, at any case not enough to steer it. Just reverse your point of view and it will be very simple to get the answers. How can you expect a land which is unspecified to be a normal land with jobs and guarantees for everyone? And please, stop the speculations: the killings have stopped since long ago, the wording “Albanian terrorists” has disappeared from vocabulary of the most serbs. Of course there are many problems there, they will be resolved by making things clear, by making Kosovo a state of law, not by acting against the firm will of its inhabitants.
As for the Spanish position: it’s biased since Kosovo WILL be multinational, no one speaks of an Albanian Kosovo. As for offering their experience, I know that the most of Basques and Catalans are in favour of the existing state. Were 90% of them for independence from Spain, that would have token place long ago and peacefully. The Spanish experience of dealing with such problems comes too late. As for Solana, he has been always contrary to the K-independence, even when he was on charge in NATO. He even invented that absurd 55% hurdle in Montenegro only to keep the non-functionning Union alive.
Blag,
you’ve flooded the comment space of each article with your messianic comments, repeating always the same. Are you sure you can foresee the future? Are you sure Serbia is a regional power, which can determine the life of its neighbours (the last one who tried to put it into practice was Milosevic, and we know what happened then. Of course Serbia will not be bombed any more, but bombs are not the only mean to make sb. more reasonable. Do you know that any Constitution can be changed easily, that’s not the Bible?). Well, sitting in NYC you can convince yourself of everything and the opposite of everything, you can construct any theory and deconstruct it as easily. My advice: Take some months break and settle in Serbia and Kosovo for a while, live and job there. It’s much a better way of having real information than getting news from Internet by selecting the sources.
You call Albanians terrorists constantly. Well, I got some news for you, just as you see all Kosovo Albanians as repugnant human beings, we see some Serbs in an equal way.
It looks very silly when ballkan fascists try to make someone look worst then themselves. And you sir, seem like a masked genius making ludicrous and despicable insults to a nation that just doesn't want to live together with your kind.
Your analogies of how Spain and several slavic countries which do not see eye to eye when it comes to Kosovo indepenence is absurd and wishful thinking on your part.
True western democrats are not fools, my friend! They know what Serbs have done in Kosovo and all over the Ballkans.
Go to YOU TUBE, and you'll see videos of Serbian demonstrators chanting and singing hate songs all over Serbia, "Ubij Siptare."
That you continue to write sensless nonsense is beyond me!
By the way, if you are so nostalgic about the lost Kosovo, why don't you contribute to the Serbian cause by moving down there instead of writing absurdity behind the pseudo names.
You ask and answer many question there, however you are missing a very fundamental point. Kosovars are not governing Kosovo neither. It is corrupted UN that is doing that. In keeping the status quo thees officials have become rich, and nobody will invest in a region that is not really defined. All that creates these problems that you are trying to blame it on one side. As for Spain being a good example of EU country, well I don't think Serbia has treated and is treating Albanians like Spain is treating its minorities. Therefore I have a problem seeing how Spanish system would work in Serbia. In fact this Serbian elite is not much different from Milosevic's political elite, they treat Albanians the same. The language if full of hate. I think Kosovo will become independent, which will calm Albanians, and EU will have to guarantee the rights of Serbs in Kosovo. Serbia has to fix its own problems and mob that runs the country, if they ever think to join EU.
Do you really think that Serbia is that important that public in the west cares? Serbia is demonised because it is mostly responsible for what happened. I dont remember any military, bosnian or croatian marching towards Belgrade, do you? Serbia is definately not the only one that has committed evil in the wars in the last decade, but it has committed the most crimes and hence why everything comes back to them first Time that serbian people accepted the truth and not constantly fight something that everyone else is well aware of. Time to stop all the conspiracy theories. Noone else will admit anything until Serbia does and thats obvious why.
A note on russia and UN resolution that peole keep comenting about. I think that Russia wont support it..but also wont not support it. ie. i think people will find that Russia will abstain from voting...hence noone then can accuse Russia of double standards, both at home by separatists and anyone away. Hence that brings end to precedent arguement, not that it was really an arguement given that powerful countries do whatever they want anyway and Serbia is not. I know this may be difficult to accept by some people.
Rod, It's interesting Russia invited Ceku on a State visit to address their Duma. That the Macedonian PM went on a state visit to Pristina. That Czech rep said their nation would unilaterally recognize Kosova. C. Burns of US State continues to support Kosova independence. And, much more. I guess the reason why comments were not allowed on "Fresh Delays Likely for Kosovo Independence" piece is because, there will be none.
Tsk, when will people who support genocide and ethnic cleansing learn their lesson that this state policy just doesn't work. It backfires and all those ultranationalists are proving it every day. It's Serbia that's being forced to stop their backpedaling into the same dark policies of slobo and his thugs. EU said that their new constitution has taken a turn for the worse regarding minority rights and judicial independence. Yep, looks like EU is forcing Serbia to prove to them that they are 'meeting EU standards". James.
Due to a number of complaints over the use of inappropriate language in the comments to our news, we hereby inform you that any further designation of entire nations/ethnic groups/peoples/ as terroritst, fascist, genocidal, etc. will result in the exclusion of that comment.
You are all welcome to lead a constructive debate in a civilised manner here. Anything less is simply not up to B92 standards.
To Rod:
I think the only news that you read are news provided to you by Blag.
I sugest you to read more than one source of news in order to get a clearer picture of events, and picture it in your mind the possible outcome of the Kosova final status.
Do you have any idea who the contact group consists of?, certainly not Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Spain and Slovakia. All these I mentioned do not have any influence in the capital decesions in the world affairs as you might know.
For you information, Italy's D'Alema just said to prime minister Ceku they favor Independence, so did Vatican, so did Slovenia's Kacin, Check Republic, Switzerland's Calmy Ray and on and on others.
I just do not understand how one sided views you have, and under what morality you think Kosova should remain under serbian rule.
West demonized serbia for the past dacade!? Yes they did and not for being angels of the Balknas.
And Rod you have the audocity to talk about ethnic cleansing, killings, rape and murder,of non Albanias in Kosova?, Blag, fed you wrong information my friend. You had a chance to make this point in the Kosova war for all the above that took place by the serbs, here goes your morality.
Your biased coment revealed your true idendity hiding behind ROD.
Kosova will be Inedepended live with consequences and look in to the future of prosperity and peace for all mankind, rid yourself of evil thinking, clean your soul of inpurities.
Peace.
Dear editor of B92.
Now I am convinced that your news center is a professional one, and unbiased, I commend you for your professionalism.
Thank you for the opportunity extended to all of us to express our opinion in the form of comment.
I appreciate the respect given to our comments, both from the Albanians and Serbs alike.
I agree with your note, we Albanians and Serbs have to show respect to each other in these comments.
This is the fundamental path towards understanding and having constructive debate.
It appears that some comments by Blag and Rod have caused a lot of anger. It's quite understandable as Xhafer's comment has caused a bit of anger on me.
But as someone had mentioned previously, Rod, Blag and Xhafer, present their individual views. If you go to the Serbian version you'll see that most of the Serbian commentators have coped with the fact that Kosovo will never be part of Serbia as it once was and wish there was more understanding of Serbian Government on this issue and better bargaining for Serbians in Kosovo.
Xhafer, I have seen those videos on YOU TUBE, but those Serbians chanting in no way represent all 8 million Serbs who want a peaceful end to this issue.
I agree with other commentator's anger and Serbian government should make an official apology as Albanian parlament and UNMIK should do the same for not being able to protect 200000 Serbs who left Kosovo.
In the end, If Kosovo gets its inedependence, I would better wish to see this two nations as good neighbors than eternal enemies.
Gentlemen: i am only trying to add liveliness to the discussion -- instead of the same old boring... "independence is only a matter of time" mantra -- which is (in my opinion) intellectually lazy and, offensive to serbs, and seems with each passing day to be a weak position.
i do not use racist wording and stand by my rigorous analysis which points out some really serious holes in the "independence is only a matter of time" gospel that one reads over an over again for the last 7 years
forgive me if i am too enthusiastic in all this.
I am not the least bit concerned about certain poster's opinions of me.
The fact is that Genc,Xhafer, Sidi, and others troll this site constantly and baselessly label anyone who disagrees with their pro-independence views. I see no reason not to point out that terrorism exists in Kosovo, (and has for quite sometime) nor no do I see any wrong in acknowledging to which ethnic group the majority of
these terrorists belong. I never once suggested that Albanians in general are "Repugnent Human Beings", although I certainly believe that this description applies to those who commit acts of terror.
In any event, Xhafer's admissision that he indeed considers Serbs repugnent human beings, only confirms
what I have suspected all along. It's no wonder why he refuses to even to acknowlege that Albanians have committed crimes.
And for the record, I'm American, and my blood is mixed. My feelings on Kosovo has nothing to with Serb Nationalism (as Xhafer has alluded), but it has everything to do with the fact that I feel that my tax dollars are being wasted on Kosovo, specifically Albanians in Kosovo, whose leaders have ties to the same terrorist (Osama Bin Laden) who attacked my country (USA).
My wife (who is Canadian) worked for UNMIK, and spent 2 years in Kosovo.
She witnessed Albanian atrocities against Serbs and others first hand, and NO genc, the killings in Kosovo have not stopped (just ask Dragan Klina).
Knowing what Albanians have been doing to Serbs, Roma, and others in Kosovo for the past 7 years (Discrimination,Intimidation, Harassment, Expulsion, even Murder), it is clear to me that the American public was duped into supporting the bombig of Yugoslavia.
Based on their actions (past and present) Albanians have no right to an independent Kosovo (not morally or legally).
The Serbs have not been angels (and they admit it too), but to say that Serbia is primarily responsible for Kosovo's problems is ridiculous.
Who joined the Nazis? Who committed genocide in Kosovo during WWII? Who alligned themselves with Osama Bin Laden to start Jihad in Kosovo? Who was shooting serb policemen, clergymen, miners, and civillians, which prompted Milosevic's crackdown on Kosovo in the first place? Who expelled destroyed 13% of Kosovo's population (230,000 people) from their homes AFTER the war ended? Who has been attacking and destroying
orthodox churches for the past 7 years (over 150 to date)? Who kills other people for simply for speaking their own native language in public?
We all know that the answer to these questions is NOT
the serbs. It's clear that some people who post on this site (I'm
diplomatic enough not to mention names) need to accept responsibility for their actions, and stop blaming Serbia for all of their problems; because that my friends is what I call "living in Denial."
I really hope B92 doesn't find my comments "too offensive" and that my post sees print. I realize that some people find my views offensive, but as they say here in the USA: "The Truth Hurts."
I don't know what you read, but you clearly missed my statement.
My statement says: Some Serbs. Some doesn't mean everybody. I do not see all Serbs repugnant as you twist the meaning of my comment to your justification. In fact, I have respect for a great majority of Serbs who fought and refused for centuries to adoption of Turkish traditions and their religious faith.
When I say some Serbs, I mean Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzhiq, Seselj, and including the ones who use nasty racial name calling and make outrageous geberalization of an entire nation.
You say, you are from USA. Well, so am I. Born and raised in California. And it's rather ironic that you in many of your comments have become a vocal critic of US policies.
What is this? "I hate your country, but I love your dollar"
There is a saying, "The man who can't love his country, can't love any other country."
Jihad in Kosovo? Kosovars alligned with Bin Laden? Are you suggesting Kosovars were implied in 9/11? Rod, are you serious? Do you know that Bin Laden's family was one of the best business partners of your actual presidents' family, even after 9/11? Rod, no one can take you seriosuly with such arguments. As for your questions (you ask and ask and never answer), start better in 1913: who began the killing and the expulsions, as Serbia was granted Kosovo in 1913? You think the Americans have been dubed by bombing Milosevic: do you think it was better let Milosevic expel as many K-Albanians as he wanted to do? Just check the history of the last century of Kosovo. You'll find the answers to your questions there. It's true, there have been crimes against the Serbs too, most of them for revenge. It's shameful, but sometimes it's hard to forgive. Luckily that is stopping, and it has to stop. As for the situation by now: some weeks ago a Serb association hold a meeting in Hotel Grand, in central Prishtina with no security measures at all, speaking Serbian all the time in and outdoors, and no Albanian paid attention to them except for the reporters. You should refresh your Kosovo knowledge, since it seems that you have absolutely no idea of what's going on in Kosovo by now. What makes you think every crime there has an ethnical background? Don't you think many K-Serbs pay for games played elsewhere? Every "ethnical" crime is precious capital for those who are trying to deny Kosovo's independence. Follow this path and you'll have many answers to your questions. Rod, really, you cannot be taken seriously. Indeed you don't even know what you're talking about, maybe the emotions deriving from your far origin puts your logic out of order.
Rod
You seem to portray yourself as a very interesting character, yet far from the world trends, and your comment about the Kosova Albanians is equivalent of a third grader essay.
Specifically the paragraph where you say that Kosova Albanian leaders were, or are, aligned with world terrorist Osama Bin Laden says enough about your character. That type of propaganda by all international terms is outdated. The international community does not buy that anymore, it is considered a 19Th century propaganda, today we live in a computer age and you not fooling anyone, so don’t try it, it is not working anymore.
It is not working neither if I try to gain politically by saying that the people n Belgrade were dancing in the streets in the wake of 9/11, that would be cheap propaganda.
" I feel that my tax dollars are being wasted on Kosovo"
Majority does not feel the same as you, their tax dollars were used to save lives.
You seem to use the notion terrorism very freely giving an impression that you know what it means, and that you are an expert in linguistics, and you not that at all. I suggest you go to Wikipedia and read about it first, and put that notion into the context of the war of Kosova, you will undoubtedly conclude that KLA was a freedom fighting force, but in drawing the conclusion you have to be reasonable with yourself.
In your comment when you talk about Milosevic’s crack down on Albanian uprising from deep inside your soul you approve the atrocities committed by Milosevic regime, that line alone is a reflection of your true identity and your profile.
I agree there were atrocities committed by Albanians and that is a natural reaction after all the killings, rapes and expulsion of near a 1000,000 people from their homes committed by the serbs.
And by the way by any means do I approve of what happened to some serbs after the war. Actually I was praying after the war that such things would not take place, knowing that something like that would likely to happen after such brutal atrocities the Albanians endured.
Serbs that left Kosova after the war, they had bloody hands. No one would stay at the crime scene right? There are serbs who did not do anything, and they are still in Kosova with clean conscious.
Who should we blame for everything that happened in Yugoslavia, but Serbia.
"Knowing what Albanians have been doing to Serbs, Roma, and others in Kosovo for the past 7 years (Discrimination,Intimidation, Harassment, Expulsion, even Murder), it is clear to me that the American public was duped into supporting the bombig of Yugoslavia.
Based on their actions (past and present) Albanians have no right to an independent Kosovo (not morally or legally)".
No comment. I got you profiled.
"Who joined the Nazis? Who committed genocide in Kosovo during WWII? Who alligned themselves with Osama Bin Laden to start Jihad in Kosovo?"
Cheap Propagnada all over again I commented earlier on this.
No comment I got you profiled.
I find a lot of serbs commenting here who are reasonable and they have posted constructive comments in a civilized manner, but you are not one of them at all.
To: ROD from USA.
No Kosovar has ever had any conection to Bin LADEN and also you seem to know who killed Dragan in Klina, why don't you tell authorites who the murder suspect is. I think you way out of line.
The West's plan for independence is a comedy of errors. An absolute fiasco.
For 5 yrs we hear non-stop how independence is a given fact and right around the corner.... and now delay, delay, delay! For 5 years Serbia is consistently demonized... yet now increasing amount of countries reject independence and the EU say's "Let's forget about Mladic and Karadzic"!
Frankly I think the West is purposely sabotaging K independence.
I dont understand how B92 is posting your dreams and illusions here!!
I just have a question for you Blag;
Do you really understand what you write? because i dont get it.
read it again
"The West's plan for independence is a comedy of errors. An absolute fiasco.
For 5 yrs we hear non-stop how independence is a given fact and right around the corner.... and now delay, delay, delay! For 5 years Serbia is consistently demonized... yet now increasing amount of countries reject independence and the EU say's "Let's forget about Mladic and Karadzic"!
Frankly I think the West is purposely sabotaging K independence."
I have no more comment..
you are shooting yourself in the foot.
Actually, Albi, Blag makes some very good points. The West has been demonizing Serbs for the past decade now, and continues to blame serbia solely for all of the
region's problems (Micheal Polt's recent interview with B92 is a prime example).
Nato has occupied Kosovo for 7 years now, there is no Serbian army there now, no Serb politicians in power, and over 2/3 of the Serbs were expelled from Kosovo.
Clearly the "serb demons" are no longer in any position to threaten Kosovo,
and haven't been in quite some time; yet the situation still hasn't improved, in fact it's become worse.
Do all citizens in Kosovo have equal rights and religious freedom? ... NO
Has the etnic cleansing stopped? .... No
Has the Killing stopped?...No
Is Kosovo now safe for all of it's war refugees to return home?...NO
Does Kosovo have a viable economy? .... NO
Do most people in Kosovo have jobs? ...NO
Is kosovo run by competent politicians who govern by rule of law?.... NO
Is Kosovo a multi-ethnic society? ... No
Is Kosovo the No. 01 center in europe for drug trafficking, sex slaves, illegal weapons, and terrorist recruitment? ...Yes
Clearly the "it's all Serbia's fault" excuse has run it's course, and countries like the US, UK, Germany, and others are scrambling to explain to their respective publics why they have invested billions of dollars into "making Kosovo a sustainable, multi-ethinic democracy" -and have acheived nothing!
Spain was one of the most vocal supporters of Nato's bombing of Yugoslavia, and subsequest occupation of Kosovo. In fact, Nato's secretary general at that time, Javier Solana, is a Spaniard. Yet as we see now 7 years later, Spain is against independence for Kosovo. Other EU countries such as Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, and Greece have all expressed similair sentiments in recent months.
Even Slovenia, whose government once insisted on independence for Kosovo, is now advocating a mutally agreed solution. So bearing these facts in mind, it is quite possible that the other western nations are waking up, and starting to re-think their earlier pro-independence positions.
can you answer me: Is Serbia able to solve the Kosovo problems? As for your questions the answer is: Is Kosovo a state? Who rules it, who is responsable for security and law there? Not the Kosovars, at any case not enough to steer it. Just reverse your point of view and it will be very simple to get the answers. How can you expect a land which is unspecified to be a normal land with jobs and guarantees for everyone? And please, stop the speculations: the killings have stopped since long ago, the wording “Albanian terrorists” has disappeared from vocabulary of the most serbs. Of course there are many problems there, they will be resolved by making things clear, by making Kosovo a state of law, not by acting against the firm will of its inhabitants.
As for the Spanish position: it’s biased since Kosovo WILL be multinational, no one speaks of an Albanian Kosovo. As for offering their experience, I know that the most of Basques and Catalans are in favour of the existing state. Were 90% of them for independence from Spain, that would have token place long ago and peacefully. The Spanish experience of dealing with such problems comes too late. As for Solana, he has been always contrary to the K-independence, even when he was on charge in NATO. He even invented that absurd 55% hurdle in Montenegro only to keep the non-functionning Union alive.
Blag,
you’ve flooded the comment space of each article with your messianic comments, repeating always the same. Are you sure you can foresee the future? Are you sure Serbia is a regional power, which can determine the life of its neighbours (the last one who tried to put it into practice was Milosevic, and we know what happened then. Of course Serbia will not be bombed any more, but bombs are not the only mean to make sb. more reasonable. Do you know that any Constitution can be changed easily, that’s not the Bible?). Well, sitting in NYC you can convince yourself of everything and the opposite of everything, you can construct any theory and deconstruct it as easily. My advice: Take some months break and settle in Serbia and Kosovo for a while, live and job there. It’s much a better way of having real information than getting news from Internet by selecting the sources.
You call Albanians terrorists constantly. Well, I got some news for you, just as you see all Kosovo Albanians as repugnant human beings, we see some Serbs in an equal way.
It looks very silly when ballkan fascists try to make someone look worst then themselves. And you sir, seem like a masked genius making ludicrous and despicable insults to a nation that just doesn't want to live together with your kind.
Your analogies of how Spain and several slavic countries which do not see eye to eye when it comes to Kosovo indepenence is absurd and wishful thinking on your part.
True western democrats are not fools, my friend! They know what Serbs have done in Kosovo and all over the Ballkans.
Go to YOU TUBE, and you'll see videos of Serbian demonstrators chanting and singing hate songs all over Serbia, "Ubij Siptare."
That you continue to write sensless nonsense is beyond me!
By the way, if you are so nostalgic about the lost Kosovo, why don't you contribute to the Serbian cause by moving down there instead of writing absurdity behind the pseudo names.
You ask and answer many question there, however you are missing a very fundamental point. Kosovars are not governing Kosovo neither. It is corrupted UN that is doing that. In keeping the status quo thees officials have become rich, and nobody will invest in a region that is not really defined. All that creates these problems that you are trying to blame it on one side. As for Spain being a good example of EU country, well I don't think Serbia has treated and is treating Albanians like Spain is treating its minorities. Therefore I have a problem seeing how Spanish system would work in Serbia. In fact this Serbian elite is not much different from Milosevic's political elite, they treat Albanians the same. The language if full of hate. I think Kosovo will become independent, which will calm Albanians, and EU will have to guarantee the rights of Serbs in Kosovo. Serbia has to fix its own problems and mob that runs the country, if they ever think to join EU.
Do you really think that Serbia is that important that public in the west cares? Serbia is demonised because it is mostly responsible for what happened. I dont remember any military, bosnian or croatian marching towards Belgrade, do you? Serbia is definately not the only one that has committed evil in the wars in the last decade, but it has committed the most crimes and hence why everything comes back to them first Time that serbian people accepted the truth and not constantly fight something that everyone else is well aware of. Time to stop all the conspiracy theories. Noone else will admit anything until Serbia does and thats obvious why.
A note on russia and UN resolution that peole keep comenting about. I think that Russia wont support it..but also wont not support it. ie. i think people will find that Russia will abstain from voting...hence noone then can accuse Russia of double standards, both at home by separatists and anyone away. Hence that brings end to precedent arguement, not that it was really an arguement given that powerful countries do whatever they want anyway and Serbia is not. I know this may be difficult to accept by some people.
Rod, It's interesting Russia invited Ceku on a State visit to address their Duma. That the Macedonian PM went on a state visit to Pristina. That Czech rep said their nation would unilaterally recognize Kosova. C. Burns of US State continues to support Kosova independence. And, much more. I guess the reason why comments were not allowed on "Fresh Delays Likely for Kosovo Independence" piece is because, there will be none.
Tsk, when will people who support genocide and ethnic cleansing learn their lesson that this state policy just doesn't work. It backfires and all those ultranationalists are proving it every day. It's Serbia that's being forced to stop their backpedaling into the same dark policies of slobo and his thugs. EU said that their new constitution has taken a turn for the worse regarding minority rights and judicial independence. Yep, looks like EU is forcing Serbia to prove to them that they are 'meeting EU standards". James.
Due to a number of complaints over the use of inappropriate language in the comments to our news, we hereby inform you that any further designation of entire nations/ethnic groups/peoples/ as terroritst, fascist, genocidal, etc. will result in the exclusion of that comment.
You are all welcome to lead a constructive debate in a civilised manner here. Anything less is simply not up to B92 standards.
To Rod:
I think the only news that you read are news provided to you by Blag.
I sugest you to read more than one source of news in order to get a clearer picture of events, and picture it in your mind the possible outcome of the Kosova final status.
Do you have any idea who the contact group consists of?, certainly not Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Spain and Slovakia. All these I mentioned do not have any influence in the capital decesions in the world affairs as you might know.
For you information, Italy's D'Alema just said to prime minister Ceku they favor Independence, so did Vatican, so did Slovenia's Kacin, Check Republic, Switzerland's Calmy Ray and on and on others.
I just do not understand how one sided views you have, and under what morality you think Kosova should remain under serbian rule.
West demonized serbia for the past dacade!? Yes they did and not for being angels of the Balknas.
And Rod you have the audocity to talk about ethnic cleansing, killings, rape and murder,of non Albanias in Kosova?, Blag, fed you wrong information my friend. You had a chance to make this point in the Kosova war for all the above that took place by the serbs, here goes your morality.
Your biased coment revealed your true idendity hiding behind ROD.
Kosova will be Inedepended live with consequences and look in to the future of prosperity and peace for all mankind, rid yourself of evil thinking, clean your soul of inpurities.
Peace.
Dear editor of B92.
Now I am convinced that your news center is a professional one, and unbiased, I commend you for your professionalism.
Thank you for the opportunity extended to all of us to express our opinion in the form of comment.
I appreciate the respect given to our comments, both from the Albanians and Serbs alike.
I agree with your note, we Albanians and Serbs have to show respect to each other in these comments.
This is the fundamental path towards understanding and having constructive debate.
It appears that some comments by Blag and Rod have caused a lot of anger. It's quite understandable as Xhafer's comment has caused a bit of anger on me.
But as someone had mentioned previously, Rod, Blag and Xhafer, present their individual views. If you go to the Serbian version you'll see that most of the Serbian commentators have coped with the fact that Kosovo will never be part of Serbia as it once was and wish there was more understanding of Serbian Government on this issue and better bargaining for Serbians in Kosovo.
Xhafer, I have seen those videos on YOU TUBE, but those Serbians chanting in no way represent all 8 million Serbs who want a peaceful end to this issue.
I agree with other commentator's anger and Serbian government should make an official apology as Albanian parlament and UNMIK should do the same for not being able to protect 200000 Serbs who left Kosovo.
In the end, If Kosovo gets its inedependence, I would better wish to see this two nations as good neighbors than eternal enemies.
Gentlemen: i am only trying to add liveliness to the discussion -- instead of the same old boring... "independence is only a matter of time" mantra -- which is (in my opinion) intellectually lazy and, offensive to serbs, and seems with each passing day to be a weak position.
i do not use racist wording and stand by my rigorous analysis which points out some really serious holes in the "independence is only a matter of time" gospel that one reads over an over again for the last 7 years
forgive me if i am too enthusiastic in all this.
I am not the least bit concerned about certain poster's opinions of me.
The fact is that Genc,Xhafer, Sidi, and others troll this site constantly and baselessly label anyone who disagrees with their pro-independence views. I see no reason not to point out that terrorism exists in Kosovo, (and has for quite sometime) nor no do I see any wrong in acknowledging to which ethnic group the majority of
these terrorists belong. I never once suggested that Albanians in general are "Repugnent Human Beings", although I certainly believe that this description applies to those who commit acts of terror.
In any event, Xhafer's admissision that he indeed considers Serbs repugnent human beings, only confirms
what I have suspected all along. It's no wonder why he refuses to even to acknowlege that Albanians have committed crimes.
And for the record, I'm American, and my blood is mixed. My feelings on Kosovo has nothing to with Serb Nationalism (as Xhafer has alluded), but it has everything to do with the fact that I feel that my tax dollars are being wasted on Kosovo, specifically Albanians in Kosovo, whose leaders have ties to the same terrorist (Osama Bin Laden) who attacked my country (USA).
My wife (who is Canadian) worked for UNMIK, and spent 2 years in Kosovo.
She witnessed Albanian atrocities against Serbs and others first hand, and NO genc, the killings in Kosovo have not stopped (just ask Dragan Klina).
Knowing what Albanians have been doing to Serbs, Roma, and others in Kosovo for the past 7 years (Discrimination,Intimidation, Harassment, Expulsion, even Murder), it is clear to me that the American public was duped into supporting the bombig of Yugoslavia.
Based on their actions (past and present) Albanians have no right to an independent Kosovo (not morally or legally).
The Serbs have not been angels (and they admit it too), but to say that Serbia is primarily responsible for Kosovo's problems is ridiculous.
Who joined the Nazis? Who committed genocide in Kosovo during WWII? Who alligned themselves with Osama Bin Laden to start Jihad in Kosovo? Who was shooting serb policemen, clergymen, miners, and civillians, which prompted Milosevic's crackdown on Kosovo in the first place? Who expelled destroyed 13% of Kosovo's population (230,000 people) from their homes AFTER the war ended? Who has been attacking and destroying
orthodox churches for the past 7 years (over 150 to date)? Who kills other people for simply for speaking their own native language in public?
We all know that the answer to these questions is NOT
the serbs. It's clear that some people who post on this site (I'm
diplomatic enough not to mention names) need to accept responsibility for their actions, and stop blaming Serbia for all of their problems; because that my friends is what I call "living in Denial."
I really hope B92 doesn't find my comments "too offensive" and that my post sees print. I realize that some people find my views offensive, but as they say here in the USA: "The Truth Hurts."
I don't know what you read, but you clearly missed my statement.
My statement says: Some Serbs. Some doesn't mean everybody. I do not see all Serbs repugnant as you twist the meaning of my comment to your justification. In fact, I have respect for a great majority of Serbs who fought and refused for centuries to adoption of Turkish traditions and their religious faith.
When I say some Serbs, I mean Milosevic, Mladic, Karadzhiq, Seselj, and including the ones who use nasty racial name calling and make outrageous geberalization of an entire nation.
You say, you are from USA. Well, so am I. Born and raised in California. And it's rather ironic that you in many of your comments have become a vocal critic of US policies.
What is this? "I hate your country, but I love your dollar"
There is a saying, "The man who can't love his country, can't love any other country."
Jihad in Kosovo? Kosovars alligned with Bin Laden? Are you suggesting Kosovars were implied in 9/11? Rod, are you serious? Do you know that Bin Laden's family was one of the best business partners of your actual presidents' family, even after 9/11? Rod, no one can take you seriosuly with such arguments. As for your questions (you ask and ask and never answer), start better in 1913: who began the killing and the expulsions, as Serbia was granted Kosovo in 1913? You think the Americans have been dubed by bombing Milosevic: do you think it was better let Milosevic expel as many K-Albanians as he wanted to do? Just check the history of the last century of Kosovo. You'll find the answers to your questions there. It's true, there have been crimes against the Serbs too, most of them for revenge. It's shameful, but sometimes it's hard to forgive. Luckily that is stopping, and it has to stop. As for the situation by now: some weeks ago a Serb association hold a meeting in Hotel Grand, in central Prishtina with no security measures at all, speaking Serbian all the time in and outdoors, and no Albanian paid attention to them except for the reporters. You should refresh your Kosovo knowledge, since it seems that you have absolutely no idea of what's going on in Kosovo by now. What makes you think every crime there has an ethnical background? Don't you think many K-Serbs pay for games played elsewhere? Every "ethnical" crime is precious capital for those who are trying to deny Kosovo's independence. Follow this path and you'll have many answers to your questions. Rod, really, you cannot be taken seriously. Indeed you don't even know what you're talking about, maybe the emotions deriving from your far origin puts your logic out of order.
Rod
You seem to portray yourself as a very interesting character, yet far from the world trends, and your comment about the Kosova Albanians is equivalent of a third grader essay.
Specifically the paragraph where you say that Kosova Albanian leaders were, or are, aligned with world terrorist Osama Bin Laden says enough about your character. That type of propaganda by all international terms is outdated. The international community does not buy that anymore, it is considered a 19Th century propaganda, today we live in a computer age and you not fooling anyone, so don’t try it, it is not working anymore.
It is not working neither if I try to gain politically by saying that the people n Belgrade were dancing in the streets in the wake of 9/11, that would be cheap propaganda.
" I feel that my tax dollars are being wasted on Kosovo"
Majority does not feel the same as you, their tax dollars were used to save lives.
You seem to use the notion terrorism very freely giving an impression that you know what it means, and that you are an expert in linguistics, and you not that at all. I suggest you go to Wikipedia and read about it first, and put that notion into the context of the war of Kosova, you will undoubtedly conclude that KLA was a freedom fighting force, but in drawing the conclusion you have to be reasonable with yourself.
In your comment when you talk about Milosevic’s crack down on Albanian uprising from deep inside your soul you approve the atrocities committed by Milosevic regime, that line alone is a reflection of your true identity and your profile.
I agree there were atrocities committed by Albanians and that is a natural reaction after all the killings, rapes and expulsion of near a 1000,000 people from their homes committed by the serbs.
And by the way by any means do I approve of what happened to some serbs after the war. Actually I was praying after the war that such things would not take place, knowing that something like that would likely to happen after such brutal atrocities the Albanians endured.
Serbs that left Kosova after the war, they had bloody hands. No one would stay at the crime scene right? There are serbs who did not do anything, and they are still in Kosova with clean conscious.
Who should we blame for everything that happened in Yugoslavia, but Serbia.
"Knowing what Albanians have been doing to Serbs, Roma, and others in Kosovo for the past 7 years (Discrimination,Intimidation, Harassment, Expulsion, even Murder), it is clear to me that the American public was duped into supporting the bombig of Yugoslavia.
Based on their actions (past and present) Albanians have no right to an independent Kosovo (not morally or legally)".
No comment. I got you profiled.
"Who joined the Nazis? Who committed genocide in Kosovo during WWII? Who alligned themselves with Osama Bin Laden to start Jihad in Kosovo?"
Cheap Propagnada all over again I commented earlier on this.
No comment I got you profiled.
I find a lot of serbs commenting here who are reasonable and they have posted constructive comments in a civilized manner, but you are not one of them at all.
To: ROD from USA.
No Kosovar has ever had any conection to Bin LADEN and also you seem to know who killed Dragan in Klina, why don't you tell authorites who the murder suspect is. I think you way out of line.
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