"Europe is fully aware of it, the consequences will be disastrous"

Slowly but surely people are realising that this is a proxy war. Like it or not, Ukraine can not and will not win against Russia.
Biden and his gang also realise that Russia will not lose but the aim is to continue the war as long as possible. US and nato really dont care how many die in this conflict. They dont care for Ukraine one bit. The ultimate goal is to weaken Russia in every way.
Washington hopes that the Russian people will rise and topple Putin. Then the yanks install a pro US gmt and Russia is chopped up into many small states and their vast resources are picked off/stolen

But, Putin has never been more popular with his people. America/nato, stop this madness and get Zelenski to negotiate a.s.a.p.

Osman,
You dream.
And it is the usual nightmare of pure lies.
YOU may love fascism or possibly live under it. The rest of the world doesn't and never will.
You are a cowardly, hateful person. You display it with every word you write from your cave.

YOU may love fascism or possibly live under it. The rest of the world doesn't and never will. 
You are a cowardly, hateful person. You display it with every word you write from your cave.
(Betsy Lalich, 24 September 2023 21:30)

Dear Betsy, aren’t you the same B92 maniacal American ultra-nationalist (these are Betsy’s own labels) who insanely whitewashed the genocide of more than 3 milllion Vietnamese, as in “US interests”.
If you wish to confront a real fascist, the you need go no further than the mirror in your cave (home?). I do recognize that your cave most likely has no light and you probably wouldn’t see and recognize the reflection of an authentically hateful fascist. You’d be no different from your neighbors, the Canadians, who live in total darkness. Were you aware that the NATOized Canadians hosted Zelensky on Friday in their parliament and gave a standing ovation to a 94 year old Na*i member of the Ukrainian Wafen SS?
Yes the world of USA, Canada and NATO, that YOU love and live under is now giving standing ovations to Na*is.
You should be ashamed of yourself and the rotten world you “live under”.

Betsy Lalich.......
You talk of me liking fascism.....lol......
Just the other day a 98 year old Ukrainian second world war veteran was in the Canadian parliament. He was applauded with a standing ovation, right...???
Do you realise that 98 year old was in the SS fighting for Hitler in WW2??? Did anyone highlight that fact? I guess you didnt know...!!
By the way Betsy...your America has upheld just about every far right group in the world for many decades. Thats a fact.
Washington was ok with Pinochet in Chile who tortured and murdered tens of thousands... Fact.
So Betsy, it seems you have no idea whats going on in the world. You have been so brainwashed its laughable. Please stop posting rubbish....it just proves your lack of knowledge. You are so naive, but have such a big mouth.

At the Canadian Parliament Zelensky brought in a 98-year-old Ukrainian veteran solder who actually fought under the German Nazi's. He got a standing ovation from the Canadian parliament. Later the Canadian Jewish groups were outraged that a Nazi was allowed to address the parliament! This is not the first time, Zelensky brought in an Azov Battalion member to the Greek parliament resulting in backlash from the opposition and public.

Zelensky is backed by Nazi groups and Russian is winning the war against fascism and continues to denazify Ukraine.

Betsy you're an idiot.

Betsy Lalich......
Here you go again with a sweeping and insulting rant....but no points argued.
Tell us if Victoria Nuland did discuss with your ambassador in Kiev just before the coup who was and wasnt to be in the next Ukraine gmt?? Did you miss that?? Is that a lie??
There is footage of Nuland giving gifts to demonstrators in Kiev. Did you miss that? Is that a lie?
Have not a number of your politicians (including the now dead witch Albright) said in the past 20 years that Russia is too big and needs to be broken up into many smaller states? And that Russias resources belong to the world and not just Russia?? Did you miss that?
In april '22 Kiev and Moscow were about to sign a peace deal where Uktaine would stop bombarding east Ukraine, stay neutral, and in return Russian forces would leave Ukraine. Remember that? Enter Boris Johnson (with US backing) and scuppered the peace deal. Right??
Tell us Betsy wgy your USA is not calling for a cease fire and negotiations?? Your military industrial complex is making billions with extending the war.

To be continued.....

Betsy Lalich.....continued....

Didnt America/nato promise Russia in 1989 that nato would not expand an inch to the east?? Turned out to be a lie, right??
How would it be if Mexico, Cuba or Jamaica requested a military allience with Russia?? How about Russian missiles on your border? Is that ok?? I guess not.
You Betsy have been so brainwashed with your media that its frightening. I urge you to google and listen to Douglas McGregor, Scott Ritter, ex US senator Richard Black, and others. By the way, they are all Americans with knowledge and experience. Your deep state blacks out Tucker Carlson as well.
The above people never get invited on ABC, CNN, etc.
You, Betsy, need to be calling for peace talks in Ukraine. And deep down you know all too well that Ukraine will not win this war. Thats a fact. So why does your gmt keep sending more weapons to Ukraine when they have no chance of winning..?? Ever wondered that??
Wake up Betsy. You need to be realistic. Debate the points I've highlighted instead of accusations, name calling, etc.

Betsy Lalich.....continued....

Didnt America/nato promise Russia in 1989 that nato would not expand an inch to the east?? Turned out to be a lie, right??
How would it be if Mexico, Cuba or Jamaica requested a military allience with Russia?? How about Russian missiles on your border? Is that ok?? I guess not.
You Betsy have been so brainwashed with your media that its frightening. I urge you to google and listen to Douglas McGregor, Scott Ritter, ex US senator Richard Black, and others. By the way, they are all Americans with knowledge and experience. Your deep state blacks out Tucker Carlson as well.
The above people never get invited on ABC, CNN, etc.
You, Betsy, need to be calling for peace talks in Ukraine. And deep down you know all too well that Ukraine will not win this war. Thats a fact. So why does your gmt keep sending more weapons to Ukraine when they have no chance of winning..?? Ever wondered that??
Wake up Betsy. You need to be realistic. Debate the points I've highlighted instead of accusations, name calling, etc.

Betsy Lalich.......
Just a few points to finish.
How many people has your military killed since the 1950s...??
Start off with Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq (WMDs...what a lie that was, eh Betsy..??), Libya, Somalia,other parts of Africa Yugoslavia, South and central America, etc...
I'll sum it up....it runs into tens of millions of civilians.....
Any comment Betsy???
Now look at what the people in poor African nations are doing.... They are burning American, British and French flags, whilst the wave the Russian and Chinese. Why do you think that is Betsy??
Why have less than 50 countries sanctioned Russia, whilst nearly 150 have not??
Your lot call American wars "American intervention" and childish titles like "Coelition of the willing".....
But anyone else who is not in nato is merely carrying out "aggression".
Where do you dumb Americans get off?

Peter Sudyka.......
Now be silly and whitewash the facts. In Korea and Vietnam approx 7 million were killed. What about Laos, and Cambodia..??
In Iraq half a million children died as a result of America dishing out "democracy"......!!! What about Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, etc....??? And what about your covert ops and direct wars in central and south America..???
Yes Peter, the figure runs into 10s of millions. Fact.
Your attempt to bring in Soviet actions/wars is laughable. Soviet Union disappeared over 30 years ago. But if you want to include other regimes from the past then nazi Germany also has blood on its hands. Right..?? And what about the Americans' genocide of the native Americans...?? That figure is somewhere between 8 to 12 million. Right..??
Peter I urge you to read Jimmy Carters speech from 2 or 3 years ago. Its entitled " USA, The Most Warlike Nation in the History of the World".
Why has America some 800 military bases in over 100 countries? Why is your military budget bigger than the next 9 countries combined..??
Stop your BS lies.
America has been and is the worlds bully and has stolen resources and murdered 10s of millions. FACT.

Russia has been involved in just as many foreign wars as America has, be it by proxy or be it by direct involvement. The amount of people killed in the Soviet war in Afghanistan alone probably trumps the amount of victims that died during the wars that America has been involved in.
(Peter Sudyka, 26 September 2023 12:57)


Dear Peter,

I remain puzzled. You are either a liar or supremely ignorant.
In one of your recent posts you laughably claimed that NATO had not taken offensive action since 1999. You remarkably omitted American/NATO directed offenses in Afghanistan or Libya, among other covert crimes.
Your latest false statement about foreign wars and the number of victims is an embarrassment to you. Do you know that Afghanistan only had a population of 10 million in the 1980s; western propaganda claim Afghani deaths in the hundreds of thousands and Soviets even less. The Vietnamese genocide, is only surpassed by Hitlers death count in the twentieth century. The count is in the MILLIONS of Vietnamese through a US unprovoked war. Adding the hundreds of thousands of US victims in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc and you easily can account for American mass murder that is logarithmically greater than anyone else except their close ideologue, the Third Reich.

Unfortunately, Ukraine's success depends on Western support and that won't last forever, meaning that the goal of regaining their east and south are becoming more and more distant. Russia will more than likely retain control over the stolen territories and not lose too much more territory.

I also don't believe Russia will be able to regain the offensive and the whole territory they initially controlled during the first months of the war, let alone take Kyiv and topple the government, since it will be an extremely costly move in terms of manpower and equipment, and putting some oligarch criminal like Yanukovych in power will just bring about another Majdan, meaning we're back at square one.

Ukraine will probably have to sit at the negotiating table, but it will simply end with another frozen conflict in the southeast, since there is no way either side will accept the other's conditions.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

Tens of millions of victims as a result of America's wars? Really? Why not hundreds of millions? Or tens of billions? Or even hundreds of trillions?

Russia has been involved in just as many foreign wars as America has, be it by proxy or be it by direct involvement. The amount of people killed in the Soviet war in Afghanistan alone probably trumps the amount of victims that died during the wars that America has been involved in.

Osman,
You dream.
And it is the usual nightmare of pure lies.
YOU may love fascism or possibly live under it. The rest of the world doesn't and never will.
You are a cowardly, hateful person. You display it with every word you write from your cave.

Unfortunately, Ukraine's success depends on Western support and that won't last forever, meaning that the goal of regaining their east and south are becoming more and more distant. Russia will more than likely retain control over the stolen territories and not lose too much more territory.

I also don't believe Russia will be able to regain the offensive and the whole territory they initially controlled during the first months of the war, let alone take Kyiv and topple the government, since it will be an extremely costly move in terms of manpower and equipment, and putting some oligarch criminal like Yanukovych in power will just bring about another Majdan, meaning we're back at square one.

Ukraine will probably have to sit at the negotiating table, but it will simply end with another frozen conflict in the southeast, since there is no way either side will accept the other's conditions.

OSMANIS XXX LARGE KNICKERS

Tens of millions of victims as a result of America's wars? Really? Why not hundreds of millions? Or tens of billions? Or even hundreds of trillions?

Russia has been involved in just as many foreign wars as America has, be it by proxy or be it by direct involvement. The amount of people killed in the Soviet war in Afghanistan alone probably trumps the amount of victims that died during the wars that America has been involved in.

Slowly but surely people are realising that this is a proxy war. Like it or not, Ukraine can not and will not win against Russia.
Biden and his gang also realise that Russia will not lose but the aim is to continue the war as long as possible. US and nato really dont care how many die in this conflict. They dont care for Ukraine one bit. The ultimate goal is to weaken Russia in every way.
Washington hopes that the Russian people will rise and topple Putin. Then the yanks install a pro US gmt and Russia is chopped up into many small states and their vast resources are picked off/stolen

But, Putin has never been more popular with his people. America/nato, stop this madness and get Zelenski to negotiate a.s.a.p.

Betsy you're an idiot.

YOU may love fascism or possibly live under it. The rest of the world doesn't and never will. 
You are a cowardly, hateful person. You display it with every word you write from your cave.
(Betsy Lalich, 24 September 2023 21:30)

Dear Betsy, aren’t you the same B92 maniacal American ultra-nationalist (these are Betsy’s own labels) who insanely whitewashed the genocide of more than 3 milllion Vietnamese, as in “US interests”.
If you wish to confront a real fascist, the you need go no further than the mirror in your cave (home?). I do recognize that your cave most likely has no light and you probably wouldn’t see and recognize the reflection of an authentically hateful fascist. You’d be no different from your neighbors, the Canadians, who live in total darkness. Were you aware that the NATOized Canadians hosted Zelensky on Friday in their parliament and gave a standing ovation to a 94 year old Na*i member of the Ukrainian Wafen SS?
Yes the world of USA, Canada and NATO, that YOU love and live under is now giving standing ovations to Na*is.
You should be ashamed of yourself and the rotten world you “live under”.

Betsy Lalich......
Here you go again with a sweeping and insulting rant....but no points argued.
Tell us if Victoria Nuland did discuss with your ambassador in Kiev just before the coup who was and wasnt to be in the next Ukraine gmt?? Did you miss that?? Is that a lie??
There is footage of Nuland giving gifts to demonstrators in Kiev. Did you miss that? Is that a lie?
Have not a number of your politicians (including the now dead witch Albright) said in the past 20 years that Russia is too big and needs to be broken up into many smaller states? And that Russias resources belong to the world and not just Russia?? Did you miss that?
In april '22 Kiev and Moscow were about to sign a peace deal where Uktaine would stop bombarding east Ukraine, stay neutral, and in return Russian forces would leave Ukraine. Remember that? Enter Boris Johnson (with US backing) and scuppered the peace deal. Right??
Tell us Betsy wgy your USA is not calling for a cease fire and negotiations?? Your military industrial complex is making billions with extending the war.

To be continued.....

Betsy Lalich.....continued....

Didnt America/nato promise Russia in 1989 that nato would not expand an inch to the east?? Turned out to be a lie, right??
How would it be if Mexico, Cuba or Jamaica requested a military allience with Russia?? How about Russian missiles on your border? Is that ok?? I guess not.
You Betsy have been so brainwashed with your media that its frightening. I urge you to google and listen to Douglas McGregor, Scott Ritter, ex US senator Richard Black, and others. By the way, they are all Americans with knowledge and experience. Your deep state blacks out Tucker Carlson as well.
The above people never get invited on ABC, CNN, etc.
You, Betsy, need to be calling for peace talks in Ukraine. And deep down you know all too well that Ukraine will not win this war. Thats a fact. So why does your gmt keep sending more weapons to Ukraine when they have no chance of winning..?? Ever wondered that??
Wake up Betsy. You need to be realistic. Debate the points I've highlighted instead of accusations, name calling, etc.

Betsy Lalich.....continued....

Didnt America/nato promise Russia in 1989 that nato would not expand an inch to the east?? Turned out to be a lie, right??
How would it be if Mexico, Cuba or Jamaica requested a military allience with Russia?? How about Russian missiles on your border? Is that ok?? I guess not.
You Betsy have been so brainwashed with your media that its frightening. I urge you to google and listen to Douglas McGregor, Scott Ritter, ex US senator Richard Black, and others. By the way, they are all Americans with knowledge and experience. Your deep state blacks out Tucker Carlson as well.
The above people never get invited on ABC, CNN, etc.
You, Betsy, need to be calling for peace talks in Ukraine. And deep down you know all too well that Ukraine will not win this war. Thats a fact. So why does your gmt keep sending more weapons to Ukraine when they have no chance of winning..?? Ever wondered that??
Wake up Betsy. You need to be realistic. Debate the points I've highlighted instead of accusations, name calling, etc.

Betsy Lalich.......
Just a few points to finish.
How many people has your military killed since the 1950s...??
Start off with Korea, Cambodia, Laos, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq (WMDs...what a lie that was, eh Betsy..??), Libya, Somalia,other parts of Africa Yugoslavia, South and central America, etc...
I'll sum it up....it runs into tens of millions of civilians.....
Any comment Betsy???
Now look at what the people in poor African nations are doing.... They are burning American, British and French flags, whilst the wave the Russian and Chinese. Why do you think that is Betsy??
Why have less than 50 countries sanctioned Russia, whilst nearly 150 have not??
Your lot call American wars "American intervention" and childish titles like "Coelition of the willing".....
But anyone else who is not in nato is merely carrying out "aggression".
Where do you dumb Americans get off?

Betsy Lalich.......
You talk of me liking fascism.....lol......
Just the other day a 98 year old Ukrainian second world war veteran was in the Canadian parliament. He was applauded with a standing ovation, right...???
Do you realise that 98 year old was in the SS fighting for Hitler in WW2??? Did anyone highlight that fact? I guess you didnt know...!!
By the way Betsy...your America has upheld just about every far right group in the world for many decades. Thats a fact.
Washington was ok with Pinochet in Chile who tortured and murdered tens of thousands... Fact.
So Betsy, it seems you have no idea whats going on in the world. You have been so brainwashed its laughable. Please stop posting rubbish....it just proves your lack of knowledge. You are so naive, but have such a big mouth.

At the Canadian Parliament Zelensky brought in a 98-year-old Ukrainian veteran solder who actually fought under the German Nazi's. He got a standing ovation from the Canadian parliament. Later the Canadian Jewish groups were outraged that a Nazi was allowed to address the parliament! This is not the first time, Zelensky brought in an Azov Battalion member to the Greek parliament resulting in backlash from the opposition and public.

Zelensky is backed by Nazi groups and Russian is winning the war against fascism and continues to denazify Ukraine.

Russia has been involved in just as many foreign wars as America has, be it by proxy or be it by direct involvement. The amount of people killed in the Soviet war in Afghanistan alone probably trumps the amount of victims that died during the wars that America has been involved in.
(Peter Sudyka, 26 September 2023 12:57)


Dear Peter,

I remain puzzled. You are either a liar or supremely ignorant.
In one of your recent posts you laughably claimed that NATO had not taken offensive action since 1999. You remarkably omitted American/NATO directed offenses in Afghanistan or Libya, among other covert crimes.
Your latest false statement about foreign wars and the number of victims is an embarrassment to you. Do you know that Afghanistan only had a population of 10 million in the 1980s; western propaganda claim Afghani deaths in the hundreds of thousands and Soviets even less. The Vietnamese genocide, is only surpassed by Hitlers death count in the twentieth century. The count is in the MILLIONS of Vietnamese through a US unprovoked war. Adding the hundreds of thousands of US victims in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc and you easily can account for American mass murder that is logarithmically greater than anyone else except their close ideologue, the Third Reich.

Peter Sudyka.......
Now be silly and whitewash the facts. In Korea and Vietnam approx 7 million were killed. What about Laos, and Cambodia..??
In Iraq half a million children died as a result of America dishing out "democracy"......!!! What about Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, etc....??? And what about your covert ops and direct wars in central and south America..???
Yes Peter, the figure runs into 10s of millions. Fact.
Your attempt to bring in Soviet actions/wars is laughable. Soviet Union disappeared over 30 years ago. But if you want to include other regimes from the past then nazi Germany also has blood on its hands. Right..?? And what about the Americans' genocide of the native Americans...?? That figure is somewhere between 8 to 12 million. Right..??
Peter I urge you to read Jimmy Carters speech from 2 or 3 years ago. Its entitled " USA, The Most Warlike Nation in the History of the World".
Why has America some 800 military bases in over 100 countries? Why is your military budget bigger than the next 9 countries combined..??
Stop your BS lies.
America has been and is the worlds bully and has stolen resources and murdered 10s of millions. FACT.