NATO deploys army, considering war with Russia? "It takes a real kick in the back"

Stupid people gambling, always lose.

NATO is an incompetent organisation only good for organizing great dinners and some of the finest selection of wines to complement those meals. For 8 years NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to fight Russia and look how that has gone: so far 3 entire armies have been destroyed, an abysmal failure.
On the subject of the 300,000 ready force LOL. That is pie in the sky stuff because it requires an enormous amount of money to maintain such a force which the EU does not have.
As far as this pommie general is concerned before being critical of the EU he should first look in his own back yard since the UK has reduced its military to such an extent that it would be pressed to field a single brigade before 2025.
If they think they should send in the Poles, Baltic states and Romanians then if they are that stupid to go ahead then make Russia's day since they are waiting for you guys. I am fascinated to hear that the western hierarchy actually believe their own BS about Russia being weak and running out of weapons.

Sj

If Nato is so incompetent explain how they managed to destroy you in only 78 days and kill over a 1000 of your security forces during the Kosovo War while they did'n lose a single unit. Doesn't sound so incompetent to me

NATO is an incompetent organisation only good for organizing great dinners and some of the finest selection of wines to complement those meals. For 8 years NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to fight Russia and look how that has gone: so far 3 entire armies have been destroyed, an abysmal failure.
On the subject of the 300,000 ready force LOL. That is pie in the sky stuff because it requires an enormous amount of money to maintain such a force which the EU does not have.
As far as this pommie general is concerned before being critical of the EU he should first look in his own back yard since the UK has reduced its military to such an extent that it would be pressed to field a single brigade before 2025.
If they think they should send in the Poles, Baltic states and Romanians then if they are that stupid to go ahead then make Russia's day since they are waiting for you guys. I am fascinated to hear that the western hierarchy actually believe their own BS about Russia being weak and running out of weapons.
(sj, 13 June 2023 23:43)

Hahahahaha !

Dragan iz Toronto, 13 June 2023 23:13)

When you said that did you have in mind, Putin?
(abc, 13 June 2023 23:42)

abc - Putin doesn't gamble, he methodically plans everything! That's why the west/NATO don't know how to respond because Putin is smarter then them all put together, LOL. You still haven't figured it out??

Completely agree SJ. western papers are full of rubbish and have been for many many years. I read them because you need know what they are saying to counteract
their fairytales but I'm afraid so many people in the west believe everything they are told, they are going to get a very rude awakening. Putin has been very patient and reserved in his operation and NATO think this is because he's afraid of NATO, NATO has been hammered with a fraction of Russia's resources!

NATO is an incompetent organisation only good for organizing great dinners and some of the finest selection of wines to complement those meals. For 8 years NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to fight Russia and look how that has gone: so far 3 entire armies have been destroyed, an abysmal failure.
On the subject of the 300,000 ready force LOL. That is pie in the sky stuff because it requires an enormous amount of money to maintain such a force which the EU does not have.
As far as this pommie general is concerned before being critical of the EU he should first look in his own back yard since the UK has reduced its military to such an extent that it would be pressed to field a single brigade before 2025.
If they think they should send in the Poles, Baltic states and Romanians then if they are that stupid to go ahead then make Russia's day since they are waiting for you guys. I am fascinated to hear that the western hierarchy actually believe their own BS about Russia being weak and running out of weapons.
(sj, 13 June 2023 23:43)

Baba Vanga predictions!

The only one loosing here is Malo Putin and its barking puppies : - )
The only incompetent was they guy who thought he will eat Ukraine like a cherry and spit the seed to Nato and west who will be fearful.
What a total failure.
Everything goes according to the plan they keep on saying..... ( alomost 500 days of their Special Military Operation )
What a brilliant demonstration of a total failure of an ideology (communism), of a non existing empire (Russliar is not USSR ), of communication (their blackmail and propaganda is achieving nothing as NATO keeps on ), and of their alliance ( not real support from China, just minimal to maintain Putin and his system weak and alive ; -) ) and of a man...

When you said that did you have in mind, Putin?
(abc, 13 June 2023 23:42)

I think he meant you.

sj

Yet the mighty Russian army could not take Kyiv, Kharkiv, or even Bakhmut in its entirety.

NATO helping Ukraine has achieved exactly what it was supposed to: to defend itself against the Russian army. You make it sound like the Ukrainian army has all but been wiped out.

So why is the war still going on then and why can't Russia seem to win it?

NATO was so busy fighting illegal wars abroad, and lose them, that they forgot about the homeland.

China is the long term enemy. What happens in Ukraine is just some regional geopolitical fight, instigated by the US. Europe fell for that and now runs the risk of being a battlefield for a war with Russia.
But hey, F the EU after all. It is not like the EU wasn't warned or anything.

(Dragan iz Toronto, 13 June 2023 23:13)

When you said that did you have in mind, Putin?

Diana

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 20:12)
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Oh NATO is in it up to their eyeballs.
They are supplying weapons, training and high ranking officers for intelligence and strategy.
How many NATO officers were killed in that missile attack that blew up their bunker?
NATO is fighting a war here and even using paid soldiers. Yes, most soldiers are poor Ukrainians who go on frontlines and are dying in horrific numbers.
But, it's a NATO WAR.

If Nato is so incompetent explain how they managed to destroy you in only 78 days and kill over a 1000 of your security forces during the Kosovo War while they did'n lose a single unit. Doesn't sound so incompetent to me
(What?, 14 June 2023 08:35)
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We are not Russia.

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 20:12)

It’s called a proxy war meaning NATO is not fighting Russia direct but supporting the army that is doing it. NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to NATO standards. NATO directs the war in Ukraine. The Ukrainian army was the BEST trained army in NATO. It could take on Poland and roll over it. NATO is supplying arms and equipment to Kiev. The US is funding Ukraine so its call the 51st State of the US.

Yet the mighty Russian army could not take Kyiv, Kharkiv, or even Bakhmut in its entirety.

NATO helping Ukraine has achieved exactly what it was supposed to: to defend itself against the Russian army. You make it sound like the Ukrainian army has all but been wiped out.

So why is the war still going on then and why can't Russia seem to win it?
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 07:19)
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Russia could win it tomorrow but it's not a good idea. The longer it lasts the more resources NATO loses. Grinding down slowly is what is needed.
Russia doesn't want Kyiev. They don't want western Ukraine at all. What would they do with never ending terrorism?
They have what they want already but they need to deplete NATO's resources and grind down the army destroying Nazis.
They'll either hand over western part to Poland or install a Russia friendly government. Either way, Ukraine as we know it is gone.

Baba Vanga predictions!
(Joni, 14 June 2023 14:57)
No really since she talked about things that would occur in decades if not centuries in the future, but I am talking about things that are actually being discussed by NATO now. They are talking about giving Ukraine security guarantees is much like what occurred in Syria with Russia then if Kiev seeks help, then all those countries will be pushed into the boiling pot. If that fails, and it will fail big time, then your US of Dumb Dumbs will send in their superior trans/LPGQMTT+ to Ukraine together with the even more superior F35s to teach those pesky Russians a lesson. Only one major problem, those “backward” Ruskies have destroyed not 1 but 2 Patriot system that were protecting Kiev. What kind of message do you think they have sent the mighty US?

Diana

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 20:12)
======================
They are doing everything except their own army on the ground.
What would you call it?

(Dragan iz Toronto, 13 June 2023 23:13)

When you said that did you have in mind, Putin?

Sj

If Nato is so incompetent explain how they managed to destroy you in only 78 days and kill over a 1000 of your security forces during the Kosovo War while they did'n lose a single unit. Doesn't sound so incompetent to me

The only one loosing here is Malo Putin and its barking puppies : - )
The only incompetent was they guy who thought he will eat Ukraine like a cherry and spit the seed to Nato and west who will be fearful.
What a total failure.
Everything goes according to the plan they keep on saying..... ( alomost 500 days of their Special Military Operation )
What a brilliant demonstration of a total failure of an ideology (communism), of a non existing empire (Russliar is not USSR ), of communication (their blackmail and propaganda is achieving nothing as NATO keeps on ), and of their alliance ( not real support from China, just minimal to maintain Putin and his system weak and alive ; -) ) and of a man...

Diana

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.

NATO is an incompetent organisation only good for organizing great dinners and some of the finest selection of wines to complement those meals. For 8 years NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to fight Russia and look how that has gone: so far 3 entire armies have been destroyed, an abysmal failure.
On the subject of the 300,000 ready force LOL. That is pie in the sky stuff because it requires an enormous amount of money to maintain such a force which the EU does not have.
As far as this pommie general is concerned before being critical of the EU he should first look in his own back yard since the UK has reduced its military to such an extent that it would be pressed to field a single brigade before 2025.
If they think they should send in the Poles, Baltic states and Romanians then if they are that stupid to go ahead then make Russia's day since they are waiting for you guys. I am fascinated to hear that the western hierarchy actually believe their own BS about Russia being weak and running out of weapons.

Dragan iz Toronto, 13 June 2023 23:13)

When you said that did you have in mind, Putin?
(abc, 13 June 2023 23:42)

abc - Putin doesn't gamble, he methodically plans everything! That's why the west/NATO don't know how to respond because Putin is smarter then them all put together, LOL. You still haven't figured it out??

Completely agree SJ. western papers are full of rubbish and have been for many many years. I read them because you need know what they are saying to counteract
their fairytales but I'm afraid so many people in the west believe everything they are told, they are going to get a very rude awakening. Putin has been very patient and reserved in his operation and NATO think this is because he's afraid of NATO, NATO has been hammered with a fraction of Russia's resources!

NATO is an incompetent organisation only good for organizing great dinners and some of the finest selection of wines to complement those meals. For 8 years NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to fight Russia and look how that has gone: so far 3 entire armies have been destroyed, an abysmal failure.
On the subject of the 300,000 ready force LOL. That is pie in the sky stuff because it requires an enormous amount of money to maintain such a force which the EU does not have.
As far as this pommie general is concerned before being critical of the EU he should first look in his own back yard since the UK has reduced its military to such an extent that it would be pressed to field a single brigade before 2025.
If they think they should send in the Poles, Baltic states and Romanians then if they are that stupid to go ahead then make Russia's day since they are waiting for you guys. I am fascinated to hear that the western hierarchy actually believe their own BS about Russia being weak and running out of weapons.
(sj, 13 June 2023 23:43)

Hahahahaha !

sj

Yet the mighty Russian army could not take Kyiv, Kharkiv, or even Bakhmut in its entirety.

NATO helping Ukraine has achieved exactly what it was supposed to: to defend itself against the Russian army. You make it sound like the Ukrainian army has all but been wiped out.

So why is the war still going on then and why can't Russia seem to win it?

When you said that did you have in mind, Putin?
(abc, 13 June 2023 23:42)

I think he meant you.

Stupid people gambling, always lose.

NATO is an incompetent organisation only good for organizing great dinners and some of the finest selection of wines to complement those meals. For 8 years NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to fight Russia and look how that has gone: so far 3 entire armies have been destroyed, an abysmal failure.
On the subject of the 300,000 ready force LOL. That is pie in the sky stuff because it requires an enormous amount of money to maintain such a force which the EU does not have.
As far as this pommie general is concerned before being critical of the EU he should first look in his own back yard since the UK has reduced its military to such an extent that it would be pressed to field a single brigade before 2025.
If they think they should send in the Poles, Baltic states and Romanians then if they are that stupid to go ahead then make Russia's day since they are waiting for you guys. I am fascinated to hear that the western hierarchy actually believe their own BS about Russia being weak and running out of weapons.
(sj, 13 June 2023 23:43)

Baba Vanga predictions!

NATO was so busy fighting illegal wars abroad, and lose them, that they forgot about the homeland.

China is the long term enemy. What happens in Ukraine is just some regional geopolitical fight, instigated by the US. Europe fell for that and now runs the risk of being a battlefield for a war with Russia.
But hey, F the EU after all. It is not like the EU wasn't warned or anything.

Yet the mighty Russian army could not take Kyiv, Kharkiv, or even Bakhmut in its entirety.

NATO helping Ukraine has achieved exactly what it was supposed to: to defend itself against the Russian army. You make it sound like the Ukrainian army has all but been wiped out.

So why is the war still going on then and why can't Russia seem to win it?
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 07:19)
=============
Russia could win it tomorrow but it's not a good idea. The longer it lasts the more resources NATO loses. Grinding down slowly is what is needed.
Russia doesn't want Kyiev. They don't want western Ukraine at all. What would they do with never ending terrorism?
They have what they want already but they need to deplete NATO's resources and grind down the army destroying Nazis.
They'll either hand over western part to Poland or install a Russia friendly government. Either way, Ukraine as we know it is gone.

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 20:12)
======================
Oh NATO is in it up to their eyeballs.
They are supplying weapons, training and high ranking officers for intelligence and strategy.
How many NATO officers were killed in that missile attack that blew up their bunker?
NATO is fighting a war here and even using paid soldiers. Yes, most soldiers are poor Ukrainians who go on frontlines and are dying in horrific numbers.
But, it's a NATO WAR.

If Nato is so incompetent explain how they managed to destroy you in only 78 days and kill over a 1000 of your security forces during the Kosovo War while they did'n lose a single unit. Doesn't sound so incompetent to me
(What?, 14 June 2023 08:35)
=================
We are not Russia.

Baba Vanga predictions!
(Joni, 14 June 2023 14:57)
No really since she talked about things that would occur in decades if not centuries in the future, but I am talking about things that are actually being discussed by NATO now. They are talking about giving Ukraine security guarantees is much like what occurred in Syria with Russia then if Kiev seeks help, then all those countries will be pushed into the boiling pot. If that fails, and it will fail big time, then your US of Dumb Dumbs will send in their superior trans/LPGQMTT+ to Ukraine together with the even more superior F35s to teach those pesky Russians a lesson. Only one major problem, those “backward” Ruskies have destroyed not 1 but 2 Patriot system that were protecting Kiev. What kind of message do you think they have sent the mighty US?

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 20:12)

It’s called a proxy war meaning NATO is not fighting Russia direct but supporting the army that is doing it. NATO trained and equipped the Ukrainian army to NATO standards. NATO directs the war in Ukraine. The Ukrainian army was the BEST trained army in NATO. It could take on Poland and roll over it. NATO is supplying arms and equipment to Kiev. The US is funding Ukraine so its call the 51st State of the US.

Diana

You do know that NATO isn't fighting in this war at all? At least not in the real world anyway. Not sure what it says on conspiracy websites.
(Peter Sudyka, 14 June 2023 20:12)
======================
They are doing everything except their own army on the ground.
What would you call it?