NATO sent a message: We will defend every inch

Poor Jens same old boring bullshit over and over again.

Why didn't you defend against Ukraine for killing 2 civilians in Poland with her bomb ??
You sound funny and stupid Stoltenberg, especially that a bomb killed already NATO civilians.

NATO mercenaries are fighting in Ukraine so they are directly involved . Of Romania and or Poland are stupid enough to formally enter the war not only will they be obliterated but NATO will ditch them . So called western allies ditched Czechoslovakia, Poland , Austria when Hitler made his moves . NATO will do the same as they are no match for Russia’s military

We have been keeping track of sj’s postings. Please note that his comment came within one minute of “Jugoslajia” and Sydey man” who are two of his alternate screen names that he posts under. He, sj, is a fraud and troll, posting under various screen names.

Now try and imagine they went up against the combined might of the USA, Turkey, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Canada etc. Without nukes, Russia would be utterly shattered.
(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26

Peter, and you think that Russia would go at it alone?!? You don't think that China and other Russian allies wouldn't intercede?!? Do you not understand that other than Western Europe and some scattered countries actually hate America! Take a peek at the Middle East for example, how much havoc, murder and destruction have the Americans caused there? Combine India and China (also have lots of Nukes), which are Russian allies, and you have a quarter of the world population against you. And, don't you think that the Europeans are getting tired of fighting US wars across the globe? Certainly seems like France hesitates these days. At some point they will get tired, not because of the cost of war, but cost of life.

He, sj, is a fraud and troll, posting under various screen names.
(Donna Penta, 29 November 2022 23:42

I tend to agree with most of SJ comments but we are not even cousins . You should listen and learn instead of being undressed by the mainstream media .

There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money.

(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26)

Your an idiot!
(sj, 30 November 2022 11:33)

Idiot is putting it mildly . The English bloke who was caught in Mariupol was in the Ukraine army payroll. Another Croat mercenary caught in Mariupol married a Ukrainian and joined the army and of course being paid . Many Canadian mercenaries entered the war , one a high standing General In Mariupol . A high ranking US officer was caught in Mariupol and sent to Moscow for more interrogations . Who knows where he is . The power of the media brainwashing the idiots of the world .

We have been keeping track of sj’s postings. Please note that his comment came within one minute of “Jugoslajia” and Sydey man” who are two of his alternate screen names that he posts under. He, sj, is a fraud and troll, posting under various screen names.
(Donna Penta, 29 November 2022 23:42
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Have you considered that the moderators might release so many comments in blocks, SHERLOCK?

Russia is fighting NATO and USA as if they were fighting Ukraine
it would have been over long time ago.Soon USA will abandon Uktaine
as they did Afganastan, Vietnam and Iraq

carefull serbs. you could be attacked again without notice. we are watching you

"If we let Putin win, we will all pay a higher price, because then the lesson that Putin and other authoritarian leaders would learn is that it pays to use force. That would make our world much more fragile and dangerous. That is why it is in our interest to support Ukraine", he emphasized.

Exactly. NATO can't get involved in this war in Ukraine, or we have mutually assured destruction and no one wants that, but the longer NATO helps Ukraine to drag the war out to the point that Russia can no longer launch any meaningful offensive westward, the better.

I am glad to hear America is now producing 122mm and 152mm artillery shells to send over to Ukraine, artillery has proven to be Russia's bane in this war. Ever since the PZH2000, XM777, HIMARS, AHS KRAB and Cesar systems have been delivered to Ukraine, Russia's offensive has collapsed and they have fled eastward. I only wish NATO would give the Ukrainians some planes.

"There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money.

(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26)

Your an idiot!

Jugoslavija

What mercenaries from Poland and Romania? Stinks like Russian propaganda again. There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money. Well, except for the criminals fighting for the Wagner group.

And what a joke that Russia is superior to NATO. Russia can't even beat Ukraine in a war. Except for Luhansk and Crimea they don't even fully control the rest of the oblasts they stole. Now try and imagine they went up against the combined might of the USA, Turkey, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Canada etc. Without nukes, Russia would be utterly shattered.

Someone attacking Romania? Did I miss that memo?

What mercenaries from Poland and Romania? Stinks like Russian propaganda again. There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money. Well, except for the criminals fighting for the Wagner group.

And what a joke that Russia is superior to NATO. Russia can't even beat Ukraine in a war. Except for Luhansk and Crimea they don't even fully control the rest of the oblasts they stole. Now try and imagine they went up against the combined might of the USA, Turkey, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Canada etc. Without nukes, Russia would be utterly shattered.
(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26) # Comment link


What mercenaries ? You will never know the true story of the war in Ukraine because you rely on mainstream media . Yes, there are plenty of Romanian, Poland and US mercenaries and they are getting paid . Did you forget about the two Englishman they may were caught in Mariupol ? Many Croats as well who are now sitting in Gulags.

Italy’s new government will never send troops to Ukraine , Canada army is outdated , Turkey will never directly engage Russia , that leaves UK, France and the US . Only the US can tilt the power balance but I don’t think China will be sitting in the sidelines if that happens.

The US and England are prodding the Poles and Romanians to enter the war.

sj

I believe you meant "YOU'RE" and not "YOUR", but thanks for sharing YOUR opinion.

Who knows where he is . The power of the media brainwashing the idiots of the world .
(Jugoslavija, 30 November 2022 12:42)

I find it amusing that he actually believes all that the western MSM churn out like Russia is losing and that the equipment given to the Ukrainians is all cutting edge stuff.
If he bothered to do a little research away from the MSM he would find out that the real reason the US does not give the Ukrainians the Patriot anti-missile is because it would show the entire world that its a crap system. Why not give the Ukrainians the F35? Well the F35 spends more time on the ground being fixed up than flying. I know because Australia has them and pilots are under very strict orders never to mention any problems.
In other words its junk.

Chi

Right, and China will just cut their economic ties with the US, EU, Japan and South Korea, ie. they're biggest trade partners, just to go fight on Russia's side against nuclear-armed America, Britain and France, because Russia attacked Ukraine. And why would India forsake their economic ties and investments in the west for, excuse me, Russia?

Neither of these countries support Russia's invasion of the Ukraine, nor do they support Russia's annexation of legally Ukrainian territory. They may not have voted against, but they sure as hell didn't vote for it either. Try and figure out why. Research the economic and trade ties of these two countries with the west and you will understand.

The rest of the world doesn't give a shit. Well, maybe North Korea and Iran, which are relatively dangerous, and Nicaragua, Syria, Eritrea and Belarus. What a terrifying prospect indeed. xD

Jugoslavija

As opposed to what you claimed that the entire Ukrainian army is destroyed and only 40000 Poles and Romanians are fighting Russia's army. Do you honestly believe such crap? You know why your so-called "independent news" sources are to be taken with a grain of salt? Because there is no one to hold them accounts for spread dishonest journalism. Plus, people's opinions are just that: opinions. They are not necessarily the truth.

But alright, since you care so much for non-Western sources, care to comment on all the Russian equipment losses listed on the Oryx website? Western BS?

I believe you meant "YOU'RE" and not "YOUR", but thanks for sharing YOUR opinion.
(Peter Sudyka, 30 November 2022 14:11)

I stand corrected. You're an idiot.

(Betsy Lalich, 3 December 2022 19:42)
An American telling anyone to learn some history is so laughable. In 2017, I was in Arlington National Cemetery standing near the very first graves of buried union soldiers. I was approached by an elderly American couple who asked me about Arlington House. I, an Australian, had to explain to Americans the history of the house, who owned it and its significance etc.
I doubt you would know the US history unless it had big colour pictures.

Chi,

Everyone hates America?

And that must be why millions try to get here. Legally or otherwise.

And everyone hates America, until they beg us for help.

Learn some history.

Your head is an empty cell of jealousy.

Poor Jens same old boring bullshit over and over again.

Why didn't you defend against Ukraine for killing 2 civilians in Poland with her bomb ??
You sound funny and stupid Stoltenberg, especially that a bomb killed already NATO civilians.

NATO mercenaries are fighting in Ukraine so they are directly involved . Of Romania and or Poland are stupid enough to formally enter the war not only will they be obliterated but NATO will ditch them . So called western allies ditched Czechoslovakia, Poland , Austria when Hitler made his moves . NATO will do the same as they are no match for Russia’s military

We have been keeping track of sj’s postings. Please note that his comment came within one minute of “Jugoslajia” and Sydey man” who are two of his alternate screen names that he posts under. He, sj, is a fraud and troll, posting under various screen names.

"There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money.

(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26)

Your an idiot!

sj

I believe you meant "YOU'RE" and not "YOUR", but thanks for sharing YOUR opinion.

carefull serbs. you could be attacked again without notice. we are watching you

"If we let Putin win, we will all pay a higher price, because then the lesson that Putin and other authoritarian leaders would learn is that it pays to use force. That would make our world much more fragile and dangerous. That is why it is in our interest to support Ukraine", he emphasized.

Exactly. NATO can't get involved in this war in Ukraine, or we have mutually assured destruction and no one wants that, but the longer NATO helps Ukraine to drag the war out to the point that Russia can no longer launch any meaningful offensive westward, the better.

I am glad to hear America is now producing 122mm and 152mm artillery shells to send over to Ukraine, artillery has proven to be Russia's bane in this war. Ever since the PZH2000, XM777, HIMARS, AHS KRAB and Cesar systems have been delivered to Ukraine, Russia's offensive has collapsed and they have fled eastward. I only wish NATO would give the Ukrainians some planes.

We have been keeping track of sj’s postings. Please note that his comment came within one minute of “Jugoslajia” and Sydey man” who are two of his alternate screen names that he posts under. He, sj, is a fraud and troll, posting under various screen names.
(Donna Penta, 29 November 2022 23:42
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Have you considered that the moderators might release so many comments in blocks, SHERLOCK?

Russia is fighting NATO and USA as if they were fighting Ukraine
it would have been over long time ago.Soon USA will abandon Uktaine
as they did Afganastan, Vietnam and Iraq

Someone attacking Romania? Did I miss that memo?

What mercenaries from Poland and Romania? Stinks like Russian propaganda again. There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money. Well, except for the criminals fighting for the Wagner group.

And what a joke that Russia is superior to NATO. Russia can't even beat Ukraine in a war. Except for Luhansk and Crimea they don't even fully control the rest of the oblasts they stole. Now try and imagine they went up against the combined might of the USA, Turkey, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Canada etc. Without nukes, Russia would be utterly shattered.
(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26) # Comment link


What mercenaries ? You will never know the true story of the war in Ukraine because you rely on mainstream media . Yes, there are plenty of Romanian, Poland and US mercenaries and they are getting paid . Did you forget about the two Englishman they may were caught in Mariupol ? Many Croats as well who are now sitting in Gulags.

Italy’s new government will never send troops to Ukraine , Canada army is outdated , Turkey will never directly engage Russia , that leaves UK, France and the US . Only the US can tilt the power balance but I don’t think China will be sitting in the sidelines if that happens.

The US and England are prodding the Poles and Romanians to enter the war.

Now try and imagine they went up against the combined might of the USA, Turkey, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Canada etc. Without nukes, Russia would be utterly shattered.
(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26

Peter, and you think that Russia would go at it alone?!? You don't think that China and other Russian allies wouldn't intercede?!? Do you not understand that other than Western Europe and some scattered countries actually hate America! Take a peek at the Middle East for example, how much havoc, murder and destruction have the Americans caused there? Combine India and China (also have lots of Nukes), which are Russian allies, and you have a quarter of the world population against you. And, don't you think that the Europeans are getting tired of fighting US wars across the globe? Certainly seems like France hesitates these days. At some point they will get tired, not because of the cost of war, but cost of life.

Jugoslavija

What mercenaries from Poland and Romania? Stinks like Russian propaganda again. There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money. Well, except for the criminals fighting for the Wagner group.

And what a joke that Russia is superior to NATO. Russia can't even beat Ukraine in a war. Except for Luhansk and Crimea they don't even fully control the rest of the oblasts they stole. Now try and imagine they went up against the combined might of the USA, Turkey, UK, France, Italy, Poland, Canada etc. Without nukes, Russia would be utterly shattered.

He, sj, is a fraud and troll, posting under various screen names.
(Donna Penta, 29 November 2022 23:42

I tend to agree with most of SJ comments but we are not even cousins . You should listen and learn instead of being undressed by the mainstream media .

There are foreign fighters from all over the world fighting for Ukraine (and Russia), but they are not fighting for money.

(Peter Sudyka, 29 November 2022 20:26)

Your an idiot!
(sj, 30 November 2022 11:33)

Idiot is putting it mildly . The English bloke who was caught in Mariupol was in the Ukraine army payroll. Another Croat mercenary caught in Mariupol married a Ukrainian and joined the army and of course being paid . Many Canadian mercenaries entered the war , one a high standing General In Mariupol . A high ranking US officer was caught in Mariupol and sent to Moscow for more interrogations . Who knows where he is . The power of the media brainwashing the idiots of the world .

I believe you meant "YOU'RE" and not "YOUR", but thanks for sharing YOUR opinion.
(Peter Sudyka, 30 November 2022 14:11)

I stand corrected. You're an idiot.

Who knows where he is . The power of the media brainwashing the idiots of the world .
(Jugoslavija, 30 November 2022 12:42)

I find it amusing that he actually believes all that the western MSM churn out like Russia is losing and that the equipment given to the Ukrainians is all cutting edge stuff.
If he bothered to do a little research away from the MSM he would find out that the real reason the US does not give the Ukrainians the Patriot anti-missile is because it would show the entire world that its a crap system. Why not give the Ukrainians the F35? Well the F35 spends more time on the ground being fixed up than flying. I know because Australia has them and pilots are under very strict orders never to mention any problems.
In other words its junk.

Chi,

Everyone hates America?

And that must be why millions try to get here. Legally or otherwise.

And everyone hates America, until they beg us for help.

Learn some history.

Your head is an empty cell of jealousy.

Chi

Right, and China will just cut their economic ties with the US, EU, Japan and South Korea, ie. they're biggest trade partners, just to go fight on Russia's side against nuclear-armed America, Britain and France, because Russia attacked Ukraine. And why would India forsake their economic ties and investments in the west for, excuse me, Russia?

Neither of these countries support Russia's invasion of the Ukraine, nor do they support Russia's annexation of legally Ukrainian territory. They may not have voted against, but they sure as hell didn't vote for it either. Try and figure out why. Research the economic and trade ties of these two countries with the west and you will understand.

The rest of the world doesn't give a shit. Well, maybe North Korea and Iran, which are relatively dangerous, and Nicaragua, Syria, Eritrea and Belarus. What a terrifying prospect indeed. xD

Jugoslavija

As opposed to what you claimed that the entire Ukrainian army is destroyed and only 40000 Poles and Romanians are fighting Russia's army. Do you honestly believe such crap? You know why your so-called "independent news" sources are to be taken with a grain of salt? Because there is no one to hold them accounts for spread dishonest journalism. Plus, people's opinions are just that: opinions. They are not necessarily the truth.

But alright, since you care so much for non-Western sources, care to comment on all the Russian equipment losses listed on the Oryx website? Western BS?

(Betsy Lalich, 3 December 2022 19:42)
An American telling anyone to learn some history is so laughable. In 2017, I was in Arlington National Cemetery standing near the very first graves of buried union soldiers. I was approached by an elderly American couple who asked me about Arlington House. I, an Australian, had to explain to Americans the history of the house, who owned it and its significance etc.
I doubt you would know the US history unless it had big colour pictures.