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Thursday, 19.03.2020.

14:45

"We're in the middle of a revolution - more dead, less freedom"

German Chancellor Angela Merkel marked the coronavirus pandemic as the biggest challenge since World War II

Izvor: Deutsche Welle

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sj

pre 4 godine

When I bought my first farm in Serbia, I discovered a picture of Tito fixed on the reverse side of the wedding picture of the former domaćin that was left hanging in the bedroom of the old house. My question for you: whose picture is fixed to the front or back side of your wedding picture? Tito, Mao, or Stalin?
(Make Serbia Great, 22 March 2020 16:39)

Is this a real farm or are you talking of a worm farm in your backyard just outside Chicago?
This guy is a real fruitcake.

Make Serbia Great

pre 4 godine

Systems can be replaced through revolutions. What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this? (Skenderbeu 1444, 19 March 2020 21:03)

When I bought my first farm in Serbia, I discovered a picture of Tito fixed on the reverse side of the wedding picture of the former domaćin that was left hanging in the bedroom of the old house. My question for you: whose picture is fixed to the front or back side of your wedding picture? Tito, Mao, or Stalin?

Ataman

pre 4 godine

What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 March 2020 21:03)

If you talking about airlines, railways, healthcare, schools: basically, yes. We seen disasters like Amtrak, British Rail, Reagan-style air travel "liberalization" and of course the biggest failure on the Planet Earth: the American healthcare system.

The same time there should be still a choice. The French, Italian, Spanish systems (as far as healthcare) do work normally well, this was something unusual and Italians failed on behavioral, not on technical scale.

The biggest failure - the U.S. system is to come in few weeks, according PBS we will see something really bad:

https://tinyurl.com/tyyptbu

With all due respect to building a hospital in few days - remember, the root cause of the entire problem is that Chinese are sunk into kleprocracy and corruption.

So what you say makes sense as long as meritocracy rules. Unfortunately it does not even rule in Western countries. Germany, France, Nordic countries are not the best, but the least bad.

Of course I still hope, Russia will overcome the problems and it will be the best... It's the wish of my heart but realistically: not in this century, maybe not even in the next.

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 4 godine

In moments like these, I wish I were a global leader. In moments like this I wish I could ask Merkel, Putin, Macron, Erdogan, Boris, what they think about the way China tackled the pandemic, building hospitals for 7 days, testing and curing everybody, and we are talking about China's huge population not Albania or Serbia or Bosnia or Macedonia's population. The truth is this huge crisis put under trial the capitalist system and it failed to tackle in a decent way a huge health emergency. So Merkel, I admire your being very rational and sober and analytical very rare qualities for a woman indeed. But we need good politicians, we need leaders who can see through and compare economic models, we need to return to initial meaning of politics, how to govern the polis, not how to stun the polis with beautiful words. Systems can be replaced through revolutions. What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this?

Mike Sujdovic

pre 4 godine

Angela, you phony hypocrite. You turned your back on Serbia. We do not belong together with you. To all the people of Eastern and Slavic Europe rise up and form a nrw allience. The hell with EU

More, why I am upset

pre 4 godine

Before the Corona scare I was looking how can I get to Computex show in Taiwan.
A typical price from Frankfurt or Moscow was about $400 (round-trip).

You may jump up and down in joy, unless you realize the reality on the ground. All these prices are with Chinese companies, via M'Land China.

Do you want to use Aeroflot, Lufthansa, Singapore, Turkish, Cathay? Things will look like $800 and up.

I have to admit: after consulting with the CFO & Big Atamanian-Hungarian Boss of All Russians™ she absolutely agreed: I should fly with a legit "normal" airline and pay $400 - $500 premium and rather support Lufthansa, Eva or Aeroflot - than Butterfly Pee China Flower Air™

Now it's off the table. Just FYI.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

This is WW-III, with an evil enemy like nothing before.

The facts are far less frightening because there are probably millions of people who became ill without even knowing it and subdued the enemy.

So the mortality is miniscule. But the enemy is still horrific and this is a total war, without peace treaty.

Pardon me, there should be a peace treaty, Haradinaj-style, with Chinese: 1000% tax on every good and service from China as long as they don't comply with most strict hygiene rules.

Relaxing the rules: they are free to choose: hygienic rules of USA, Customs Union or EU.
If there is a problem in a single small dot over the "i": all goods will have 1000% tax.

Ah, yes, visas. No eVisa to Chinese citizens to anywhere in above places and as long as there is no compliance, visa should given only to direct relatives.

And of course all programs like Erasmus suspended and no member of Chinese Communist Party will receive any visa, even not the direct relatives.

Will work wonders!

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Forgot about such extremely "beneficial" projects like the Budapest - Kelebia - Subotica - Beograd railway.

All Chinese citizens working on the project immediately deported, the project nationalized, 50% goes to Hungary, 50% goes to Serbia.

The next step should be de-recognizing of Mainland China and recognizing Taiwan.
Or they provide a credible study how they going to improve.

That, too, will work wonders!

Indeed, I am a foreigner. Why should be I forced to chose between M'Land China and Taiwan?
If you ask me - I am absolutely siding with Taiwan since early 90-s.

Mike Sujdovic

pre 4 godine

Angela, you phony hypocrite. You turned your back on Serbia. We do not belong together with you. To all the people of Eastern and Slavic Europe rise up and form a nrw allience. The hell with EU

Ataman

pre 4 godine

This is WW-III, with an evil enemy like nothing before.

The facts are far less frightening because there are probably millions of people who became ill without even knowing it and subdued the enemy.

So the mortality is miniscule. But the enemy is still horrific and this is a total war, without peace treaty.

Pardon me, there should be a peace treaty, Haradinaj-style, with Chinese: 1000% tax on every good and service from China as long as they don't comply with most strict hygiene rules.

Relaxing the rules: they are free to choose: hygienic rules of USA, Customs Union or EU.
If there is a problem in a single small dot over the "i": all goods will have 1000% tax.

Ah, yes, visas. No eVisa to Chinese citizens to anywhere in above places and as long as there is no compliance, visa should given only to direct relatives.

And of course all programs like Erasmus suspended and no member of Chinese Communist Party will receive any visa, even not the direct relatives.

Will work wonders!

sj

pre 4 godine

When I bought my first farm in Serbia, I discovered a picture of Tito fixed on the reverse side of the wedding picture of the former domaćin that was left hanging in the bedroom of the old house. My question for you: whose picture is fixed to the front or back side of your wedding picture? Tito, Mao, or Stalin?
(Make Serbia Great, 22 March 2020 16:39)

Is this a real farm or are you talking of a worm farm in your backyard just outside Chicago?
This guy is a real fruitcake.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Forgot about such extremely "beneficial" projects like the Budapest - Kelebia - Subotica - Beograd railway.

All Chinese citizens working on the project immediately deported, the project nationalized, 50% goes to Hungary, 50% goes to Serbia.

The next step should be de-recognizing of Mainland China and recognizing Taiwan.
Or they provide a credible study how they going to improve.

That, too, will work wonders!

Indeed, I am a foreigner. Why should be I forced to chose between M'Land China and Taiwan?
If you ask me - I am absolutely siding with Taiwan since early 90-s.

More, why I am upset

pre 4 godine

Before the Corona scare I was looking how can I get to Computex show in Taiwan.
A typical price from Frankfurt or Moscow was about $400 (round-trip).

You may jump up and down in joy, unless you realize the reality on the ground. All these prices are with Chinese companies, via M'Land China.

Do you want to use Aeroflot, Lufthansa, Singapore, Turkish, Cathay? Things will look like $800 and up.

I have to admit: after consulting with the CFO & Big Atamanian-Hungarian Boss of All Russians™ she absolutely agreed: I should fly with a legit "normal" airline and pay $400 - $500 premium and rather support Lufthansa, Eva or Aeroflot - than Butterfly Pee China Flower Air™

Now it's off the table. Just FYI.

Ataman

pre 4 godine

What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 March 2020 21:03)

If you talking about airlines, railways, healthcare, schools: basically, yes. We seen disasters like Amtrak, British Rail, Reagan-style air travel "liberalization" and of course the biggest failure on the Planet Earth: the American healthcare system.

The same time there should be still a choice. The French, Italian, Spanish systems (as far as healthcare) do work normally well, this was something unusual and Italians failed on behavioral, not on technical scale.

The biggest failure - the U.S. system is to come in few weeks, according PBS we will see something really bad:

https://tinyurl.com/tyyptbu

With all due respect to building a hospital in few days - remember, the root cause of the entire problem is that Chinese are sunk into kleprocracy and corruption.

So what you say makes sense as long as meritocracy rules. Unfortunately it does not even rule in Western countries. Germany, France, Nordic countries are not the best, but the least bad.

Of course I still hope, Russia will overcome the problems and it will be the best... It's the wish of my heart but realistically: not in this century, maybe not even in the next.

Make Serbia Great

pre 4 godine

Systems can be replaced through revolutions. What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this? (Skenderbeu 1444, 19 March 2020 21:03)

When I bought my first farm in Serbia, I discovered a picture of Tito fixed on the reverse side of the wedding picture of the former domaćin that was left hanging in the bedroom of the old house. My question for you: whose picture is fixed to the front or back side of your wedding picture? Tito, Mao, or Stalin?

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 4 godine

In moments like these, I wish I were a global leader. In moments like this I wish I could ask Merkel, Putin, Macron, Erdogan, Boris, what they think about the way China tackled the pandemic, building hospitals for 7 days, testing and curing everybody, and we are talking about China's huge population not Albania or Serbia or Bosnia or Macedonia's population. The truth is this huge crisis put under trial the capitalist system and it failed to tackle in a decent way a huge health emergency. So Merkel, I admire your being very rational and sober and analytical very rare qualities for a woman indeed. But we need good politicians, we need leaders who can see through and compare economic models, we need to return to initial meaning of politics, how to govern the polis, not how to stun the polis with beautiful words. Systems can be replaced through revolutions. What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this?

Skenderbeu 1444

pre 4 godine

In moments like these, I wish I were a global leader. In moments like this I wish I could ask Merkel, Putin, Macron, Erdogan, Boris, what they think about the way China tackled the pandemic, building hospitals for 7 days, testing and curing everybody, and we are talking about China's huge population not Albania or Serbia or Bosnia or Macedonia's population. The truth is this huge crisis put under trial the capitalist system and it failed to tackle in a decent way a huge health emergency. So Merkel, I admire your being very rational and sober and analytical very rare qualities for a woman indeed. But we need good politicians, we need leaders who can see through and compare economic models, we need to return to initial meaning of politics, how to govern the polis, not how to stun the polis with beautiful words. Systems can be replaced through revolutions. What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this?

Ataman

pre 4 godine

This is WW-III, with an evil enemy like nothing before.

The facts are far less frightening because there are probably millions of people who became ill without even knowing it and subdued the enemy.

So the mortality is miniscule. But the enemy is still horrific and this is a total war, without peace treaty.

Pardon me, there should be a peace treaty, Haradinaj-style, with Chinese: 1000% tax on every good and service from China as long as they don't comply with most strict hygiene rules.

Relaxing the rules: they are free to choose: hygienic rules of USA, Customs Union or EU.
If there is a problem in a single small dot over the "i": all goods will have 1000% tax.

Ah, yes, visas. No eVisa to Chinese citizens to anywhere in above places and as long as there is no compliance, visa should given only to direct relatives.

And of course all programs like Erasmus suspended and no member of Chinese Communist Party will receive any visa, even not the direct relatives.

Will work wonders!

Ataman

pre 4 godine

Forgot about such extremely "beneficial" projects like the Budapest - Kelebia - Subotica - Beograd railway.

All Chinese citizens working on the project immediately deported, the project nationalized, 50% goes to Hungary, 50% goes to Serbia.

The next step should be de-recognizing of Mainland China and recognizing Taiwan.
Or they provide a credible study how they going to improve.

That, too, will work wonders!

Indeed, I am a foreigner. Why should be I forced to chose between M'Land China and Taiwan?
If you ask me - I am absolutely siding with Taiwan since early 90-s.

Make Serbia Great

pre 4 godine

Systems can be replaced through revolutions. What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this? (Skenderbeu 1444, 19 March 2020 21:03)

When I bought my first farm in Serbia, I discovered a picture of Tito fixed on the reverse side of the wedding picture of the former domaćin that was left hanging in the bedroom of the old house. My question for you: whose picture is fixed to the front or back side of your wedding picture? Tito, Mao, or Stalin?

Mike Sujdovic

pre 4 godine

Angela, you phony hypocrite. You turned your back on Serbia. We do not belong together with you. To all the people of Eastern and Slavic Europe rise up and form a nrw allience. The hell with EU

Ataman

pre 4 godine

What about starting to nationalize all essential industries? What my friends here think about this?
(Skenderbeu 1444, 19 March 2020 21:03)

If you talking about airlines, railways, healthcare, schools: basically, yes. We seen disasters like Amtrak, British Rail, Reagan-style air travel "liberalization" and of course the biggest failure on the Planet Earth: the American healthcare system.

The same time there should be still a choice. The French, Italian, Spanish systems (as far as healthcare) do work normally well, this was something unusual and Italians failed on behavioral, not on technical scale.

The biggest failure - the U.S. system is to come in few weeks, according PBS we will see something really bad:

https://tinyurl.com/tyyptbu

With all due respect to building a hospital in few days - remember, the root cause of the entire problem is that Chinese are sunk into kleprocracy and corruption.

So what you say makes sense as long as meritocracy rules. Unfortunately it does not even rule in Western countries. Germany, France, Nordic countries are not the best, but the least bad.

Of course I still hope, Russia will overcome the problems and it will be the best... It's the wish of my heart but realistically: not in this century, maybe not even in the next.

sj

pre 4 godine

When I bought my first farm in Serbia, I discovered a picture of Tito fixed on the reverse side of the wedding picture of the former domaćin that was left hanging in the bedroom of the old house. My question for you: whose picture is fixed to the front or back side of your wedding picture? Tito, Mao, or Stalin?
(Make Serbia Great, 22 March 2020 16:39)

Is this a real farm or are you talking of a worm farm in your backyard just outside Chicago?
This guy is a real fruitcake.

More, why I am upset

pre 4 godine

Before the Corona scare I was looking how can I get to Computex show in Taiwan.
A typical price from Frankfurt or Moscow was about $400 (round-trip).

You may jump up and down in joy, unless you realize the reality on the ground. All these prices are with Chinese companies, via M'Land China.

Do you want to use Aeroflot, Lufthansa, Singapore, Turkish, Cathay? Things will look like $800 and up.

I have to admit: after consulting with the CFO & Big Atamanian-Hungarian Boss of All Russians™ she absolutely agreed: I should fly with a legit "normal" airline and pay $400 - $500 premium and rather support Lufthansa, Eva or Aeroflot - than Butterfly Pee China Flower Air™

Now it's off the table. Just FYI.