"I hope we won't be forced to engage the military"
European Diplomacy Chief Josep Borrell said in Zagreb that he hoped that European countries would not have to send army to the border between Greece and Turkey.
Correction: I saw yesterday that Russia's budge breakeven is equivalent to $42 and it has a 170 billion dollar equivalent reserve. Russia has handled much worse and are much better placed than the KSA/US frackers to ride it out.
Stick to yawning because you are clueless beyond belief especially that part about locals rising against Assad then months later the US government LOL.
You have no idea what you are talking about. The US government stepped in after the rebel were organised ha,ha,ha. Pure comedy.
The only uprising that was not organised by the forces of goodness was the Arab Spring. It caught the US of Piss and Wind “intelligence” services completely by surprise.
However, with the Syria situation, the CIA had been actively planning and organising a rebellion for many years prior to this “local uprising”.
Now MSG go back to sleep and stop making a fool of yourself. What a buffoon.
MSG, the people are rising up against Macron in France, in their millions. And not just in Paris. You think America should send troops there as well???? After all, America puts its nose everywhere.
And didnt the west encourage the Arab Spring up?? And look how that turned out.......
Look at the state of Iraq, the state of Libya, and now Syria. Do you truly think it was a wise move??? Look at the refugee crisis and the shattered economies of the middle east where we gave them some "American democracy?......
Some parts of the world are just not ready for democracy the way America sees democracy.
And could not the west go into areas of conflict and stand between the warring factions, negotiate, get them to talk, etc. No, we always join one side because that side benefits us more. Its never whats best for that country or region. There has never been a plan for the long term, and we leave areas and countries in a far worse state than before the west gave them a taste of democracy.
Wake up MSG and look at the bigger picture. You are so naive.
No agreement in OPEC today. Russia refuses to make cuts. Boosting the oil price only works to boost the share price of Saudi Aramco & dirty American shale gas which is only profitable at a high oil/gas price.
Oil and gas price (traditionally likned) have decoupled from tight synchronicity in the last five years or so.
Russia's budget is based on an minimal oil price of around $30. It's extraction costs are in rubles, NOT dollars, it extracts locally and still has an estimated foreign reserve surplus of 400 billion US equivalent dollars. Yet again, Russia uses the ruble.
"Make Serbia Poor" You need a lesson in politics. The United States financed Syrian rebel group for a Coup d' etat against the rightful leader Assad. This time Russian backed Assad and the Russians and Syrians cleaned house. Now Turkey is being used as a proxy to stir up more tension. You tell me, what the hell is Turkey doing invading a sovereign country Syria. The US has little appetite in sending troops in Syrian but are more than happy to see Turkey invade a sovereign country while Europe blindly watches.
(Jugoslavija, 5 March 2020 17:37)
You need a lesson in the difference between past, present and future.
Locals rose against Assad, and some months later the US government debated whether to support the rising rebel groups or not. The decision was completely half-hearted and doomed to fail. Either go 100% or 0%. Nothing in between is worthwhile. The US government stepped in after the rebels organized, not before.
Mighty EU at it.
Not fit to enforce ZSO, or punish siptars for breaching CEFTA-A agreementin kosovo * but fit to send an Army to deal with émigrants uprooted by same EU, NATO and Americans from own homes and sent into beaming émigrants.
I have a high level of respect for any man, woman comming into Europe to seek better life.. EU countries should do the same after all immigrants turn a wheel of economy.
Putin has taken his eye off the ball. OPEC+ is about to eject Russia from the club if Putin does not go along with the severe cut in production of oil due to the Coronavirus. If Russia refuses to oblige OPEC they run the risk of oil dropping from $50/barrel to $30/barrel. This drastic drop in the price of oil would certainly bankrupt Russia. Putin had better come to his senses and realize that Russia is no longer a World power.
sj,
You continue to make statements you cannot back up with hard evidence. The Assad regime is a brutal dictatorship which is supported by Putin with Russia doing the heavy lifting for Syria. The military assistance provided by Russia was done so as to gain a foothold to the Middle East. Putin has not only sacrificed young Russian soldiers, but also innocent Syrian citizens, many who have been children and the elderly. Does that remind you of what happened in Balkans during the 1990’s?
(Mark Senior, 5 March 2020 16:51)
Brutal dictator, sacrificing young soldiers etc, etc. Right out the western media handbook. Well I see Saudi Arabia or perhaps Jordan are all democracies and meanwhile the US in Iraq Syria and Afghanistan are sending old soldiers to die there and those people US drones kill demand death from the US rather than dictatorial Russians.
Grow a brain and stop watching too much western TV.
... The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel...
(sj, 5 March 2020 13:56)
Yeah, sure!?
Before the war, Syria was bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
Today's Syria is bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
You might want to rewrite this comment again!
(Tom L'Orizi, 5 March 2020 15:23)
The major headache for IDF is with Syrian and Iranian - backed Hisbollah. A terrorist organization which attacks civil targets in Israel. The involvement of IDF outside of Israel is quite limited and the main goal is to prevent the support of Hisbollah.
AFAIK, the only force in Syria which is not hostile to Israel are Kurds. And interestingly exactly Kurds get the least support. What a shame - for over a century.
And I am afraid, the main objective of any Western intervention in Syria was to make Russia lose the base in Lattakia. Same with Crimea: no one cares in West about Crimea seriously - except the base in Sevastopol.
If you consider living in Serbia as a "rich and fabulous existence"...
Talk about delusions, yikes!
(Make Serbia Great, 5 March 2020 12:15)
"Make Serbia Poor" You need a lesson in politics. The United States financed Syrian rebel group for a Coup d' etat against the rightful leader Assad. This time Russian backed Assad and the Russians and Syrians cleaned house. Now Turkey is being used as a proxy to stir up more tension. You tell me, what the hell is Turkey doing invading a sovereign country Syria. The US has little appetite in sending troops in Syrian but are more than happy to see Turkey invade a sovereign country while Europe blindly watches.
sj,
You continue to make statements you cannot back up with hard evidence. The Assad regime is a brutal dictatorship which is supported by Putin with Russia doing the heavy lifting for Syria. The military assistance provided by Russia was done so as to gain a foothold to the Middle East. Putin has not only sacrificed young Russian soldiers, but also innocent Syrian citizens, many who have been children and the elderly. Does that remind you of what happened in Balkans during the 1990’s?
... The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel...
(sj, 5 March 2020 13:56)
Yeah, sure!?
Before the war, Syria was bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
To what extent are those actors responsible for the mayhem in Syria and migration? I don't think the EU played much of a role so their responsibility is minimal.
(Make Serbia Great, 5 March 2020 12:08)
You are an idiot so shut up and stop talking through your arse for a change.
The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel. It was the US which armed the opposition and the EU supported such action all the way and even paid for some of the arms and equipment.
The Syrian War is a civil war. It was initiated by persons being abducted, tortured, and murdered by their ruler. The popular uprising was supported by various foreign actor at various times and to different degrees. To what extent are those actors responsible for the mayhem in Syria and migration? I don't think the EU played much of a role so their responsibility is minimal.
Mr Borrell you keep forgetting it's your employer who created a mass Emigrants.
By invading their countries. Bombing them in own country, This very EU. That has no power otherwise but sowing death.
Send the army, you kill émigrants in their own country, homes as and you do the same when they try to escape your horror.
Amazing, initially the EU fully supported the US in regime change in Syria and now that they have created a huge mess the same EU is looking at sending troops to the Greek and Bulgarian borders, but not to remove Assad only to stop the masses of displaced people Erdogan was been paid to keep in turkey, but decided to use as a weapon against the EU/NATO for not supporting him.
Erdogan only understands one thing and that is strength and he can easily be subdued by withholding money and destabilising the Turkish economy. Alas the west will do nothing of the kind so off to the front go EU troops.
Amazing, initially the EU fully supported the US in regime change in Syria and now that they have created a huge mess the same EU is looking at sending troops to the Greek and Bulgarian borders, but not to remove Assad only to stop the masses of displaced people Erdogan was been paid to keep in turkey, but decided to use as a weapon against the EU/NATO for not supporting him.
Erdogan only understands one thing and that is strength and he can easily be subdued by withholding money and destabilising the Turkish economy. Alas the west will do nothing of the kind so off to the front go EU troops.
Mr Borrell you keep forgetting it's your employer who created a mass Emigrants.
By invading their countries. Bombing them in own country, This very EU. That has no power otherwise but sowing death.
Send the army, you kill émigrants in their own country, homes as and you do the same when they try to escape your horror.
The Syrian War is a civil war. It was initiated by persons being abducted, tortured, and murdered by their ruler. The popular uprising was supported by various foreign actor at various times and to different degrees. To what extent are those actors responsible for the mayhem in Syria and migration? I don't think the EU played much of a role so their responsibility is minimal.
To what extent are those actors responsible for the mayhem in Syria and migration? I don't think the EU played much of a role so their responsibility is minimal.
(Make Serbia Great, 5 March 2020 12:08)
You are an idiot so shut up and stop talking through your arse for a change.
The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel. It was the US which armed the opposition and the EU supported such action all the way and even paid for some of the arms and equipment.
... The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel...
(sj, 5 March 2020 13:56)
Yeah, sure!?
Before the war, Syria was bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
sj,
You continue to make statements you cannot back up with hard evidence. The Assad regime is a brutal dictatorship which is supported by Putin with Russia doing the heavy lifting for Syria. The military assistance provided by Russia was done so as to gain a foothold to the Middle East. Putin has not only sacrificed young Russian soldiers, but also innocent Syrian citizens, many who have been children and the elderly. Does that remind you of what happened in Balkans during the 1990’s?
sj,
You continue to make statements you cannot back up with hard evidence. The Assad regime is a brutal dictatorship which is supported by Putin with Russia doing the heavy lifting for Syria. The military assistance provided by Russia was done so as to gain a foothold to the Middle East. Putin has not only sacrificed young Russian soldiers, but also innocent Syrian citizens, many who have been children and the elderly. Does that remind you of what happened in Balkans during the 1990’s?
(Mark Senior, 5 March 2020 16:51)
Brutal dictator, sacrificing young soldiers etc, etc. Right out the western media handbook. Well I see Saudi Arabia or perhaps Jordan are all democracies and meanwhile the US in Iraq Syria and Afghanistan are sending old soldiers to die there and those people US drones kill demand death from the US rather than dictatorial Russians.
Grow a brain and stop watching too much western TV.
Mighty EU at it.
Not fit to enforce ZSO, or punish siptars for breaching CEFTA-A agreementin kosovo * but fit to send an Army to deal with émigrants uprooted by same EU, NATO and Americans from own homes and sent into beaming émigrants.
I have a high level of respect for any man, woman comming into Europe to seek better life.. EU countries should do the same after all immigrants turn a wheel of economy.
MSG, the people are rising up against Macron in France, in their millions. And not just in Paris. You think America should send troops there as well???? After all, America puts its nose everywhere.
And didnt the west encourage the Arab Spring up?? And look how that turned out.......
Look at the state of Iraq, the state of Libya, and now Syria. Do you truly think it was a wise move??? Look at the refugee crisis and the shattered economies of the middle east where we gave them some "American democracy?......
Some parts of the world are just not ready for democracy the way America sees democracy.
And could not the west go into areas of conflict and stand between the warring factions, negotiate, get them to talk, etc. No, we always join one side because that side benefits us more. Its never whats best for that country or region. There has never been a plan for the long term, and we leave areas and countries in a far worse state than before the west gave them a taste of democracy.
Wake up MSG and look at the bigger picture. You are so naive.
If you consider living in Serbia as a "rich and fabulous existence"...
Talk about delusions, yikes!
(Make Serbia Great, 5 March 2020 12:15)
"Make Serbia Poor" You need a lesson in politics. The United States financed Syrian rebel group for a Coup d' etat against the rightful leader Assad. This time Russian backed Assad and the Russians and Syrians cleaned house. Now Turkey is being used as a proxy to stir up more tension. You tell me, what the hell is Turkey doing invading a sovereign country Syria. The US has little appetite in sending troops in Syrian but are more than happy to see Turkey invade a sovereign country while Europe blindly watches.
"Make Serbia Poor" You need a lesson in politics. The United States financed Syrian rebel group for a Coup d' etat against the rightful leader Assad. This time Russian backed Assad and the Russians and Syrians cleaned house. Now Turkey is being used as a proxy to stir up more tension. You tell me, what the hell is Turkey doing invading a sovereign country Syria. The US has little appetite in sending troops in Syrian but are more than happy to see Turkey invade a sovereign country while Europe blindly watches.
(Jugoslavija, 5 March 2020 17:37)
You need a lesson in the difference between past, present and future.
Locals rose against Assad, and some months later the US government debated whether to support the rising rebel groups or not. The decision was completely half-hearted and doomed to fail. Either go 100% or 0%. Nothing in between is worthwhile. The US government stepped in after the rebels organized, not before.
Putin has taken his eye off the ball. OPEC+ is about to eject Russia from the club if Putin does not go along with the severe cut in production of oil due to the Coronavirus. If Russia refuses to oblige OPEC they run the risk of oil dropping from $50/barrel to $30/barrel. This drastic drop in the price of oil would certainly bankrupt Russia. Putin had better come to his senses and realize that Russia is no longer a World power.
... The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel...
(sj, 5 March 2020 13:56)
Yeah, sure!?
Before the war, Syria was bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
Today's Syria is bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
You might want to rewrite this comment again!
(Tom L'Orizi, 5 March 2020 15:23)
The major headache for IDF is with Syrian and Iranian - backed Hisbollah. A terrorist organization which attacks civil targets in Israel. The involvement of IDF outside of Israel is quite limited and the main goal is to prevent the support of Hisbollah.
AFAIK, the only force in Syria which is not hostile to Israel are Kurds. And interestingly exactly Kurds get the least support. What a shame - for over a century.
And I am afraid, the main objective of any Western intervention in Syria was to make Russia lose the base in Lattakia. Same with Crimea: no one cares in West about Crimea seriously - except the base in Sevastopol.
No agreement in OPEC today. Russia refuses to make cuts. Boosting the oil price only works to boost the share price of Saudi Aramco & dirty American shale gas which is only profitable at a high oil/gas price.
Oil and gas price (traditionally likned) have decoupled from tight synchronicity in the last five years or so.
Russia's budget is based on an minimal oil price of around $30. It's extraction costs are in rubles, NOT dollars, it extracts locally and still has an estimated foreign reserve surplus of 400 billion US equivalent dollars. Yet again, Russia uses the ruble.
Stick to yawning because you are clueless beyond belief especially that part about locals rising against Assad then months later the US government LOL.
You have no idea what you are talking about. The US government stepped in after the rebel were organised ha,ha,ha. Pure comedy.
The only uprising that was not organised by the forces of goodness was the Arab Spring. It caught the US of Piss and Wind “intelligence” services completely by surprise.
However, with the Syria situation, the CIA had been actively planning and organising a rebellion for many years prior to this “local uprising”.
Now MSG go back to sleep and stop making a fool of yourself. What a buffoon.
Correction: I saw yesterday that Russia's budge breakeven is equivalent to $42 and it has a 170 billion dollar equivalent reserve. Russia has handled much worse and are much better placed than the KSA/US frackers to ride it out.
Mr Borrell you keep forgetting it's your employer who created a mass Emigrants.
By invading their countries. Bombing them in own country, This very EU. That has no power otherwise but sowing death.
Send the army, you kill émigrants in their own country, homes as and you do the same when they try to escape your horror.
The Syrian War is a civil war. It was initiated by persons being abducted, tortured, and murdered by their ruler. The popular uprising was supported by various foreign actor at various times and to different degrees. To what extent are those actors responsible for the mayhem in Syria and migration? I don't think the EU played much of a role so their responsibility is minimal.
Amazing, initially the EU fully supported the US in regime change in Syria and now that they have created a huge mess the same EU is looking at sending troops to the Greek and Bulgarian borders, but not to remove Assad only to stop the masses of displaced people Erdogan was been paid to keep in turkey, but decided to use as a weapon against the EU/NATO for not supporting him.
Erdogan only understands one thing and that is strength and he can easily be subdued by withholding money and destabilising the Turkish economy. Alas the west will do nothing of the kind so off to the front go EU troops.
To what extent are those actors responsible for the mayhem in Syria and migration? I don't think the EU played much of a role so their responsibility is minimal.
(Make Serbia Great, 5 March 2020 12:08)
You are an idiot so shut up and stop talking through your arse for a change.
The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel. It was the US which armed the opposition and the EU supported such action all the way and even paid for some of the arms and equipment.
sj,
You continue to make statements you cannot back up with hard evidence. The Assad regime is a brutal dictatorship which is supported by Putin with Russia doing the heavy lifting for Syria. The military assistance provided by Russia was done so as to gain a foothold to the Middle East. Putin has not only sacrificed young Russian soldiers, but also innocent Syrian citizens, many who have been children and the elderly. Does that remind you of what happened in Balkans during the 1990’s?
"Make Serbia Poor" You need a lesson in politics. The United States financed Syrian rebel group for a Coup d' etat against the rightful leader Assad. This time Russian backed Assad and the Russians and Syrians cleaned house. Now Turkey is being used as a proxy to stir up more tension. You tell me, what the hell is Turkey doing invading a sovereign country Syria. The US has little appetite in sending troops in Syrian but are more than happy to see Turkey invade a sovereign country while Europe blindly watches.
(Jugoslavija, 5 March 2020 17:37)
You need a lesson in the difference between past, present and future.
Locals rose against Assad, and some months later the US government debated whether to support the rising rebel groups or not. The decision was completely half-hearted and doomed to fail. Either go 100% or 0%. Nothing in between is worthwhile. The US government stepped in after the rebels organized, not before.
... The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel...
(sj, 5 March 2020 13:56)
Yeah, sure!?
Before the war, Syria was bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
Putin has taken his eye off the ball. OPEC+ is about to eject Russia from the club if Putin does not go along with the severe cut in production of oil due to the Coronavirus. If Russia refuses to oblige OPEC they run the risk of oil dropping from $50/barrel to $30/barrel. This drastic drop in the price of oil would certainly bankrupt Russia. Putin had better come to his senses and realize that Russia is no longer a World power.
... The civil war was orchestrated by the Obama regime to remove Assad and put in a Washington friendly government that does not pose a threat to Israel...
(sj, 5 March 2020 13:56)
Yeah, sure!?
Before the war, Syria was bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
Today's Syria is bish bash bosh for Israel's IDF.
You might want to rewrite this comment again!
(Tom L'Orizi, 5 March 2020 15:23)
The major headache for IDF is with Syrian and Iranian - backed Hisbollah. A terrorist organization which attacks civil targets in Israel. The involvement of IDF outside of Israel is quite limited and the main goal is to prevent the support of Hisbollah.
AFAIK, the only force in Syria which is not hostile to Israel are Kurds. And interestingly exactly Kurds get the least support. What a shame - for over a century.
And I am afraid, the main objective of any Western intervention in Syria was to make Russia lose the base in Lattakia. Same with Crimea: no one cares in West about Crimea seriously - except the base in Sevastopol.
sj,
You continue to make statements you cannot back up with hard evidence. The Assad regime is a brutal dictatorship which is supported by Putin with Russia doing the heavy lifting for Syria. The military assistance provided by Russia was done so as to gain a foothold to the Middle East. Putin has not only sacrificed young Russian soldiers, but also innocent Syrian citizens, many who have been children and the elderly. Does that remind you of what happened in Balkans during the 1990’s?
(Mark Senior, 5 March 2020 16:51)
Brutal dictator, sacrificing young soldiers etc, etc. Right out the western media handbook. Well I see Saudi Arabia or perhaps Jordan are all democracies and meanwhile the US in Iraq Syria and Afghanistan are sending old soldiers to die there and those people US drones kill demand death from the US rather than dictatorial Russians.
Grow a brain and stop watching too much western TV.
If you consider living in Serbia as a "rich and fabulous existence"...
Talk about delusions, yikes!
(Make Serbia Great, 5 March 2020 12:15)
"Make Serbia Poor" You need a lesson in politics. The United States financed Syrian rebel group for a Coup d' etat against the rightful leader Assad. This time Russian backed Assad and the Russians and Syrians cleaned house. Now Turkey is being used as a proxy to stir up more tension. You tell me, what the hell is Turkey doing invading a sovereign country Syria. The US has little appetite in sending troops in Syrian but are more than happy to see Turkey invade a sovereign country while Europe blindly watches.
Mighty EU at it.
Not fit to enforce ZSO, or punish siptars for breaching CEFTA-A agreementin kosovo * but fit to send an Army to deal with émigrants uprooted by same EU, NATO and Americans from own homes and sent into beaming émigrants.
I have a high level of respect for any man, woman comming into Europe to seek better life.. EU countries should do the same after all immigrants turn a wheel of economy.
No agreement in OPEC today. Russia refuses to make cuts. Boosting the oil price only works to boost the share price of Saudi Aramco & dirty American shale gas which is only profitable at a high oil/gas price.
Oil and gas price (traditionally likned) have decoupled from tight synchronicity in the last five years or so.
Russia's budget is based on an minimal oil price of around $30. It's extraction costs are in rubles, NOT dollars, it extracts locally and still has an estimated foreign reserve surplus of 400 billion US equivalent dollars. Yet again, Russia uses the ruble.
MSG, the people are rising up against Macron in France, in their millions. And not just in Paris. You think America should send troops there as well???? After all, America puts its nose everywhere.
And didnt the west encourage the Arab Spring up?? And look how that turned out.......
Look at the state of Iraq, the state of Libya, and now Syria. Do you truly think it was a wise move??? Look at the refugee crisis and the shattered economies of the middle east where we gave them some "American democracy?......
Some parts of the world are just not ready for democracy the way America sees democracy.
And could not the west go into areas of conflict and stand between the warring factions, negotiate, get them to talk, etc. No, we always join one side because that side benefits us more. Its never whats best for that country or region. There has never been a plan for the long term, and we leave areas and countries in a far worse state than before the west gave them a taste of democracy.
Wake up MSG and look at the bigger picture. You are so naive.
Stick to yawning because you are clueless beyond belief especially that part about locals rising against Assad then months later the US government LOL.
You have no idea what you are talking about. The US government stepped in after the rebel were organised ha,ha,ha. Pure comedy.
The only uprising that was not organised by the forces of goodness was the Arab Spring. It caught the US of Piss and Wind “intelligence” services completely by surprise.
However, with the Syria situation, the CIA had been actively planning and organising a rebellion for many years prior to this “local uprising”.
Now MSG go back to sleep and stop making a fool of yourself. What a buffoon.
Correction: I saw yesterday that Russia's budge breakeven is equivalent to $42 and it has a 170 billion dollar equivalent reserve. Russia has handled much worse and are much better placed than the KSA/US frackers to ride it out.
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