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Wednesday, 01.05.2019.

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Bosnia should stay out of Kosovo issue, says Serbian FM

"Denis Zvizdic saying that a change of borders means opening Pandora's box is meaningless and ridiculous," says Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic.

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Bre

pre 4 godine

To njegos and other people who might buy into his propaganda. There are credible studies for those interested like the one below. That serbs migrated to an albanian populated Illyria(now Balkans) is not contested history, ANYWHERE in the world. 

[link]
(Illyria, 3 May 2019 21:02) 

Credible from a thief? Sure. It's amazing how many credible sources Albanians have. Is ramush credible? Is the kla credible? Is Kosovo credible? Is USA credible?

See you cannot speak about being credible because nobody here thinks you are..

Have fun!

njegos

pre 4 godine

Dardania'Alb - You've missed my point completely. I really don't care who came to the Balkans first, Serbs or Albanians. My issue with Albanians is their claim to be descendants of the ancient Ilyrians when there is no reliable evidence to support this thesis. Albanian history is so hard to trace because your people have converted and assimilated with every occupier that crossed your path to lead easier lives. Thus, there are no ancient manuscripts, no kingdoms, no battles and wars won and no real cultural identity. And more recently, Albanians are trying to claim that medieval Serbian churches were actually Albanian. Shameful!

And please explain why, if the Albanians are Europe's oldest people, have made the least progress? Look at what the Italians have done with their history, the Russians, the Germans and even the Serbs. There is real cultural identities with these nations with tangible evidence that they existed and continue to grow and thrive. The Albanians on the other hand are known as Europe's drug dealers.

So again, I repeat, I don't care who got to the Balkans first, just don't claim you're something you're not. You keep embarrassing yourselves.

Dardania'Alb

pre 4 godine

njegos, i've noticed many serbs like you are obsessed with other people's origins, meanwhile, you serbs don't even have a uniform theory for your own origins . with the Albanians there is only 1 or 2 prevailing theories within academia regarding Albanian origins, compared to the 4 or 5 different theories for Serbian origins, which even other serbs cant agree with one another.

now, the link you posted doesn't work, but i'm assuming it's a link for the Matzinger and Schumacher so called study. in which case you haven't done yourself any favors here on trying to debunk Albanians as the indigenous people long before serbs. Both Schumacher and Matzinger clearly state that the Albanian language is a native language spoken in Europe and balkans region for well over 3,000 years. they go on to note that Albanian origin has links to daco-Thracia, or between the Illyrian and Thracian contact zones. so already just with that reference you have debunked all of the gibberish propaganda coming from serbian hate mongers and propaganda trolls when it comes to who was there first.

njegos

pre 4 godine

Illyria - Are you serious? In the link you posted, searching for the origins of Albanians is like finding a needle in a haystack. Albanians aren't even mentioned for several pages. And between the statistical equations and the guesswork in the article, I had to wake myself up three times before I got through the entire piece. Is that the best you can do? You say your claims cannot be disputed anywhere in the world. Well, here's just one piece of from two Austrian researchers that conflict with your premise. Let me know if you would like more reading material. I can come up with several more, if needed.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ62DdrM1cnyMAbUxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyY3EyaG1nBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDQjY4OThfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1557011805/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fbalkaninsight.com%2f2011%2f03%2f25%2faustrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words%2f/RK=2/RS=Z7SvWecYOpsWq1IviShIFbH7Xf0-

Illyria

pre 4 godine

To njegos and other people who might buy into his propaganda. There are credible studies for those interested like the one below. That serbs migrated to an albanian populated Illyria(now Balkans) is not contested history, ANYWHERE in the world.

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555

njegos

pre 4 godine

From Ministry: "The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian."

WRONG! The mistakes you made, in addition to your spelling errors, are: you used a play write and an Ottoman politician as a sources, not a credible historians. The couple obscure historians that you did reference make no mention of Albanian origins in the Balkans. You are a clown!

Miloš Obilić

pre 4 godine

The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian.
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 3 May 2019 02:39)

WE the Serbs are indigenous to the Balkans!
WE the Serbs are descendants of Illiryan, Thracian (Scrodisci Triballi), Nordic, Celtic, Germanic and Hellenic people.
Basically all pre-Slavic tribes and nations who roamed the Balkan peninsula.

35% of all Serbs have Indigenous (pre Celtic/Germanic) European DNA (I2)
15% has Thracian DNA (E1b1b)
9% has Hellenic (J2)
9% of the population has Nordic DNA (I1) introduced by Vikings, so that's every 10th or 11th Serb carrying this DNA.
6% of the population has DNA connected to Celts (R1b)

Only 18% has Slavic (R1a) DNA, but we adapted their culture and language.

You Kosovo* Albanians and in the North (Ghegs?) have 50% north African mountain-tribe Berber DNA.
But here it comes, 0% indigenous European (I2)

The only reasonable explanation is that you were Ottoman slaves shipped in from all over the Ottoman empire.
That's why no one has ever heard about Albanians until the 14th century.

But what's even more astonishing is that you slaves stole our national hero Kastriot's identity, stole our white Byzantine eagle, painted it black and all of a sudden you are "Albanians"

So you've made some more mistakes

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

(njegos, 2 May 2019 21:19) # Comment link
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You left out 5 western only sources from previous post.

Also the serb source with q ending is obviously a c like most serb last name ending> Anyone from the Balkans could have made an educated guess on that especially you since you're a Montenegrin.

The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian.

njegos

pre 5 godina

To Ministry: I took it upon myself to do a little fact-checking on your sources and here's what I found:

Haki Pasha (You spelled it wrong, it's Hakki) I could only find 2 from historical research and they are: Hafiz who was a general in the Ottoman Army and Ibrahim who was an Ottoman Statesman. We can disqualify these sources as they are not historians, and I couldn't find anything they wrote on Albanians.

Konstandin Paparigopulos (You spelled this name wrong as well. It has 2 Rs in his last name. Here is a quote from your source: "...If I;lyrians were the brothers of Epirots and Macedonians, who were brothers of Greeks, then Albanians were of Greek stock" Congratulations, your source says Albanians are Greeks.

Jovan Cvijic (there is no spelling with a q on the end of his name) Nothing found on Albanians from this source.

Branislav Nusic - Serbian playwright. Great source!

Ganulla Papazogllu - Classical scholar, but very obsure. Makes references to Albanians in some of her writing, but nothing of their origins.

There you have it. Your sources are a joke, just like you and have proven nothing. Your spelling is atrocious. Back to the drawing board! That was fun...and too easy!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

Ministry, are these the only few books that even mention Albanians in European history? I can see by the names that there's a lot of Turkish overtones, so in the words of Donald. I call fake history/news. Listen, it's very evident where and how you people were manipulated into thinking that you're from the Balkans - Hoxha's fake history to try an create a history that's just not there buddy. Sorry, I almost feel sorry for you people because you have no identity and all your roots and DNA trace back to Turkey. Be proud of this, the Turks actually had a nice run back in the day. Stop trying to be something you're not.
(Chi, 2 May 2019 15:50) # Comment link
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I could still post a longer list of authors for you to read chi chi
mind you I only have 1500 characters in each post on b92

I did not want to overwhelm you with a big long list since all you do is repeat the same domestic propaganda.

honestly I was only thinking in your best interest

further humbling or as you may interpret as humiliation is always available upon request but your plate is already full you may not want to bite more than you can chew I don't want you to choke chi chi

Chi

pre 5 godina

Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 2 May 2019 10:07)

Ministry, are these the only few books that even mention Albanians in European history? I can see by the names that there's a lot of Turkish overtones, so in the words of Donald. I call fake history/news. Listen, it's very evident where and how you people were manipulated into thinking that you're from the Balkans - Hoxha's fake history to try an create a history that's just not there buddy. Sorry, I almost feel sorry for you people because you have no identity and all your roots and DNA trace back to Turkey. Be proud of this, the Turks actually had a nice run back in the day. Stop trying to be something you're not.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Little Radical-Ivica still can’t see where things are headed to!
[link]
Lol, Son your in for a big surprises the genie has been let out of the bottle and it ain’t going back in!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 2 May 2019 15:22

Rocky, "little Ivica", LOL. Did you see the group picture of the summit in Germany? You're boy Ramush was standing on a platform in the back and he was barely taller than Merkel. WHat's he, lie 5'2"? This is typical of Turks, and as you well know, Serbian men are among the top 3 tallest in the world. For Pete's sake, no pun intended, even our Ana is taller than Haradinaj. Hahaha.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Little Radical-Ivica still can’t see where things are headed to!
https://www.ocnal.com/2018/02/macedonian-prime-zoran-zaev-im-of.html?m=1
Lol, Son your in for a big surprises the genie has been let out of the bottle and it ain’t going back in!!!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

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@ chi chi

you cant think of any because you haven't read any books on eastern or western authors
only propaganda which I might add is nothing wrong with serbs preferring the blue pill rather than red pill that's their own choice to make and their own consequences to suffer

here is some more eastern authors since I only listed western in previous post:

Haki Pasha: "If the Albanian history emerges, the Ottoman Empire will go to the river".

Konstandin Paparigopulos: "Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Illyrian race."

Jovan Cvijiq: "South Slavs, after arrived in the Balkans, found there the Albanians, who under their pressure (Slavs) retreated southward and to most mountainous areas, where we face today."


Dusko Konstantinov: "Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula and direct descendants of the Illyrians, who had built the most powerful state in the Balkans."


Branislav Nušić: "Albanians are indigenous, who during all invasions of peoples kept its type and character significantly. They faced attacks by Romans, dense Slavs raids, who invaded them all fields, plains, and rivers ".

Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 1 May 2019 19:52)
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You do dream big.
(Peggy, 2 May 2019 01:16) # Comment link


Yes I do "dream big" alla trump style mind you

Thank you for your compliment

The Truth

pre 5 godina

To all Bosnian Friends you guys are on your ancestors land don’t let these migrants Slavs take more land of ours enough is enough and even the dead now by now that idea of land swap between Serbia and Kosovo have huge plane behind that in future Will be used by repubilica Serbs to join Serbia and Bosnia won’t be having anything in exchange,So stay strong my friends and we know that you dream is to recognise Kosovo but situation with this idiots Slav migrants is not allowing you to do so.
We are happy and ok when Illyrian people are ok ,do not forget Bosnian people are our small brother
Ademovichs,Jasharovichs,Gashovichs,Lajicis,etc etc are Bosnian Albanians that still runs our lands of Bosnia .🇦🇱🇧🇦🇭🇷🇲🇪🇽🇰🇲🇰Are Illyrian on their ancient ancestors lands and 🇷🇸 are slav foreigners on our Lands .

Chi

pre 5 godina

Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."

Humiliated Ministry, Nietzsche was talking about Serbs not you Albo fools that weren't even in Europe when he was alive. Goethe also praised the Serbs - FYI. Swear to GOD, you people would steal a pacifier out of a baby's mouth if you could. The only one praise you would ever get would come from a writer/philosopher from Turkey or the Middle East - ironically, I can't think of one... for your Anatolian hood that is!!! Sorry you don't have any history bro, but that's life, so just be the good newbies run Europe and continue to try and steal whatever you can - the rest of Europe is finally starting to smarten up.

Bre

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.
(Lenard, 1 May 2019 22:56)

Wait are you talking about Albanians or Croations? I see you mention Serbs but then describe the other two...

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Kakva ironija, Dacic polaze venac na grob Dimitrija Tucovica najveceg i iskrenog kriticara Srpske politike prema Albancima...kada smo kod Tucovica i pandorine kutije.
(cika steva, 1. maj 2019 14:02)
(Avni, 1 May 2019 20:24)
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Avni, why are you always quoting from the Serbian part of B92?
If we wanted to know what is there we would go there. Please stick to the point at hand here or just post a link to what you want people to read like a normal person would do.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14)
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First of all I sympathize with any victim regardless of who they are but don't hold your breath. Just because she is an American citizen doesn't give her a ticket to some victory.
There are many, many, rape victims from that war on all sides. If her case was taken up who would they go after? Does she even know who that was? She cannot sue Serbia as a country because all the Serbian victims could then go after Croatia and Bosnia for the same thing. Do you see the problem here.
Croatia wanted to sue Serbia for damages but Serbia had the same ammunition against them. Where is that case now?
How powerful do you think an American citizenship is? Do you think it automatically has made her a God?
Who is going to bring justice to Serbian or Croatian victims of rape done by Bosnian Muslims?
Grow up.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.
(Lenard, 1 May 2019 22:56)
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Which article are you commenting on? Certainly not this one. If you can't comment on an article you really should start your own blog just to rant.

Now Bosnian politicians wouldn't accept Serbia meddling in the internal affairs so why are they meddling in Serbia's internal affairs? If they want to make this their business then I say, Serbia go ahead and start interfering in their business.
Just wondering who it is they are trying to impress.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 1 May 2019 19:52)
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You do dream big.

Marika

pre 5 godina

Watcherovic, What is a “tree finger” salute?

I remember a few years ago in Tirana, a Serb delegation was visiting with a Bishop. A couple of his butt boys decided to march down the main boulevard carrying Serb flags. There was no response from the general populous except for some snickering from the local kids.

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.

Avni

pre 5 godina

(Bre, 1 May 2019 16:28)

Kakva ironija, Dacic polaze venac na grob Dimitrija Tucovica najveceg i iskrenog kriticara Srpske politike prema Albancima...kada smo kod Tucovica i pandorine kutije.
(cika steva, 1. maj 2019 14:02)

Amazing love how can it be?

pre 5 godina

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened . (Who, 1 May 2019 17:02)

If you were perfect, there would not have been a space between "happened" and the period (".") But there is. And humans have fallen from the good state in which God created them. Why? Otherwise, humans would not be capable of what we call love, a free and willing choice to set our affections on another person. Without choice, without love. But with choice comes the real possibility of its inverse -- evil. Of which we are all guilty. Thank God for HIS love which was amazingly displayed at Calvary!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

@the truth
Maybe, just maybe. All along we all know that you are common, primitive from, 11th century.
Let others find out, too.
(Ljiljana, 1 May 2019 15:34)
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I love it every time a serb underestimates Albanian people because they end up humiliating themselves in every situation


Here is what some western individuals who have left mark on history had to say about us :


Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."


Alphonse de Lamartine: "Albanians, this nation and this people can not be mocked ... This is the land of heroes of all time ... Homer found there Achilles, the Greeks Alexander the Great, Turks found Skanderbeg, people these of the same race, the same blood" .


Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than history itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side) ".


Nicolas Iorga: "The Albanian people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe."


Edvin Pears: "Albanians are descendants of the oldest race of the Balkan Peninsula, namely the Aryan race, to draw this word from two Albanian roots of words: Gold and side, which i.e. people of pure gold."

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Bre, 1 May 2019 15:01

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic.

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14)

@ springaj - that's a valiant effort and I applaud you for it!
tell me, what are you doing about the Albanian killers & rapists of Srbs still roaming free? Are you working hard to put them behind bars also?
What is the Plan? Please be detailed!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

this is why merkel is against border correction or exchanges

bosnia would be next with republika liquidation waiting

plus kosova ows serbia nothing serbia ows kosova another kosova

Sanxhak
preshev
bujanoc
medvjegj
molla e kuqe up to nish

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina

Bre

pre 5 godina

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic. 

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14) 

I know it's a little late but I fell asleep reading your comment.. yaaaaaawwwnnnn

Anything else?

Who

pre 5 godina

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened .

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors!
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 1 May 2019 15:46)


@ petey birdaj - Hmmm....seems like EVERYONE gives a "hoot" what Srbija thinks... Seems like everyone and there brother wants Srbija to "recognize" the land theft of KiM…
Not sure I understand what you're trying to say....

viktor

pre 5 godina

There is only radical Islam and Kosovo Albanians and Bosniaks (Muslims) from Bosnia which support it. Proofs for it are everywhere. That is why we see that Great Albania is nonchalantly being created . Territories of other countries are flagrantly claimed. There is no evidence of Great Serbia.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

ou rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened .
(Who, 1 May 2019 17:02)

@ whoaj -

Try this: If the people who killed & raped believed in God, especially in the one true living God, the God of Abraham, Jacob & Isaac, they would not have killed or raped!

What does me believing in God have anything to do with Killers & rapists doing what they did??

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Dacic has had a lot of time off to reflect on his failed foreign diplomacy since his work on "revocations" has come to a complete stop. He can keep himself busy talking about Bosnia as his hands are tight and he can't risk another b!tch slapping from Kosova.
(Time, 1 May 2019 16:29)

@ timeaj - What are you even talking about??? LOL, LOL

Me thinks you Albanians would trade pacolli for Dacic in a heartbeat, LOL, LOL, LOL

Bre

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors! 
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 1 May 2019 15:46) 

Clearly you are here commenting on it so how irrelevant can it be? Hmm. But please feel free to comment away about how much no one gives a frick and sound more stupid..

To all albos commenting...you cant come here and make comments as if you dont care.. the fact that you all come here says otherwise.

Time

pre 5 godina

Dacic has had a lot of time off to reflect on his failed foreign diplomacy since his work on "revocations" has come to a complete stop. He can keep himself busy talking about Bosnia as his hands are tight and he can't risk another b!tch slapping from Kosova.

Spring

pre 5 godina

Bre, 1 May 2019 15:01

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic.

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

@Dacic,
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!?
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians!
b92 failed to report!
(the truth, 1 May 2019 14:46)

@ thruthaj - Whats wrong with that? This is called "freedom of expression" and can be done with no problem when in a country that believes in it>
Let these "brave" Albanians go do that in Beograd...see what happens. Just ask your comrade who owns pekara "Roma" in BG when his cousin flashed the "eagle" sign and posted it on social media...

Easy to do it in America. try it in Srbija.
The same would happen if Srbs did the tree-finger salute in Tirana....
Not understanding your point!

As far as the Hearing, the only issue I have is every side claims only THEIR injustices....I believe many Rapes happened, but from ALL sides.

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....

Bre

pre 5 godina

@Dacic, 
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!? 
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians! 
b92 failed to report!
(the truth, 1 May 2019 14:46) 

And your point is?

B92 failed to report people playing loud Albanian music outside the Serbian embassy? Thank God. Who cares? Albanians complaining to the Americans about war crimes...yaaaaaawnnnnnn. That's every day.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors!
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!

the truth

pre 5 godina

@Dacic,
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!?
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians!
b92 failed to report!

Nancy

pre 5 godina

Dacic with total confusion again. The subject of the Berlin summit was only the Kosovo case. Why has accepted Belgrade to discuss this in Berlin with BiH? Now it’s useless to complain. Dacic will discuss this with Great powers. Nobody in Berlin or Paris would at all use this unclear term. If, they would speak about permanent members of the UN Security Council. But a real sovereign country would say, we will discuss this with Prishtina. Who needs a third party, which is clearly in the Prishtina side, to settle sovereign affairs? Only a non-independent state. Why Dacic can not stop his really primitive statements. You will never hear from Merkel or Macron such detailed statements concerning Serbia etc. Their are activities are not visible. But Belgrade has no activities, no Plattform at all but endless controversial statements. In these statements Belgrade is speaking mainly about artificial disputes in other countries. Belgrade had many years ago made the mistake to see deep disputes within the NATO. At the end ALL NATO members were fighting against Serbia. Serbia should now learn the lessons, before it is too late. Instead EU the UN Sec Council is the only address which can prevent Great Albania.

the truth

pre 5 godina

@Dacic,
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!?
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians!
b92 failed to report!

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors!
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!

Spring

pre 5 godina

Bre, 1 May 2019 15:01

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic.

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.

Who

pre 5 godina

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened .

Bre

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors! 
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 1 May 2019 15:46) 

Clearly you are here commenting on it so how irrelevant can it be? Hmm. But please feel free to comment away about how much no one gives a frick and sound more stupid..

To all albos commenting...you cant come here and make comments as if you dont care.. the fact that you all come here says otherwise.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

this is why merkel is against border correction or exchanges

bosnia would be next with republika liquidation waiting

plus kosova ows serbia nothing serbia ows kosova another kosova

Sanxhak
preshev
bujanoc
medvjegj
molla e kuqe up to nish

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina

Bre

pre 5 godina

@Dacic, 
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!? 
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians! 
b92 failed to report!
(the truth, 1 May 2019 14:46) 

And your point is?

B92 failed to report people playing loud Albanian music outside the Serbian embassy? Thank God. Who cares? Albanians complaining to the Americans about war crimes...yaaaaaawnnnnnn. That's every day.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

@Dacic,
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!?
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians!
b92 failed to report!
(the truth, 1 May 2019 14:46)

@ thruthaj - Whats wrong with that? This is called "freedom of expression" and can be done with no problem when in a country that believes in it>
Let these "brave" Albanians go do that in Beograd...see what happens. Just ask your comrade who owns pekara "Roma" in BG when his cousin flashed the "eagle" sign and posted it on social media...

Easy to do it in America. try it in Srbija.
The same would happen if Srbs did the tree-finger salute in Tirana....
Not understanding your point!

As far as the Hearing, the only issue I have is every side claims only THEIR injustices....I believe many Rapes happened, but from ALL sides.

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....

Time

pre 5 godina

Dacic has had a lot of time off to reflect on his failed foreign diplomacy since his work on "revocations" has come to a complete stop. He can keep himself busy talking about Bosnia as his hands are tight and he can't risk another b!tch slapping from Kosova.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

@the truth
Maybe, just maybe. All along we all know that you are common, primitive from, 11th century.
Let others find out, too.
(Ljiljana, 1 May 2019 15:34)
__________________________________

I love it every time a serb underestimates Albanian people because they end up humiliating themselves in every situation


Here is what some western individuals who have left mark on history had to say about us :


Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."


Alphonse de Lamartine: "Albanians, this nation and this people can not be mocked ... This is the land of heroes of all time ... Homer found there Achilles, the Greeks Alexander the Great, Turks found Skanderbeg, people these of the same race, the same blood" .


Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than history itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side) ".


Nicolas Iorga: "The Albanian people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe."


Edvin Pears: "Albanians are descendants of the oldest race of the Balkan Peninsula, namely the Aryan race, to draw this word from two Albanian roots of words: Gold and side, which i.e. people of pure gold."

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.

The Truth

pre 5 godina

To all Bosnian Friends you guys are on your ancestors land don’t let these migrants Slavs take more land of ours enough is enough and even the dead now by now that idea of land swap between Serbia and Kosovo have huge plane behind that in future Will be used by repubilica Serbs to join Serbia and Bosnia won’t be having anything in exchange,So stay strong my friends and we know that you dream is to recognise Kosovo but situation with this idiots Slav migrants is not allowing you to do so.
We are happy and ok when Illyrian people are ok ,do not forget Bosnian people are our small brother
Ademovichs,Jasharovichs,Gashovichs,Lajicis,etc etc are Bosnian Albanians that still runs our lands of Bosnia .🇦🇱🇧🇦🇭🇷🇲🇪🇽🇰🇲🇰Are Illyrian on their ancient ancestors lands and 🇷🇸 are slav foreigners on our Lands .

Chi

pre 5 godina

Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 2 May 2019 10:07)

Ministry, are these the only few books that even mention Albanians in European history? I can see by the names that there's a lot of Turkish overtones, so in the words of Donald. I call fake history/news. Listen, it's very evident where and how you people were manipulated into thinking that you're from the Balkans - Hoxha's fake history to try an create a history that's just not there buddy. Sorry, I almost feel sorry for you people because you have no identity and all your roots and DNA trace back to Turkey. Be proud of this, the Turks actually had a nice run back in the day. Stop trying to be something you're not.

Bre

pre 5 godina

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic. 

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14) 

I know it's a little late but I fell asleep reading your comment.. yaaaaaawwwnnnn

Anything else?

Marika

pre 5 godina

Watcherovic, What is a “tree finger” salute?

I remember a few years ago in Tirana, a Serb delegation was visiting with a Bishop. A couple of his butt boys decided to march down the main boulevard carrying Serb flags. There was no response from the general populous except for some snickering from the local kids.

Avni

pre 5 godina

(Bre, 1 May 2019 16:28)

Kakva ironija, Dacic polaze venac na grob Dimitrija Tucovica najveceg i iskrenog kriticara Srpske politike prema Albancima...kada smo kod Tucovica i pandorine kutije.
(cika steva, 1. maj 2019 14:02)

Chi

pre 5 godina

Little Radical-Ivica still can’t see where things are headed to!
[link]
Lol, Son your in for a big surprises the genie has been let out of the bottle and it ain’t going back in!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 2 May 2019 15:22

Rocky, "little Ivica", LOL. Did you see the group picture of the summit in Germany? You're boy Ramush was standing on a platform in the back and he was barely taller than Merkel. WHat's he, lie 5'2"? This is typical of Turks, and as you well know, Serbian men are among the top 3 tallest in the world. For Pete's sake, no pun intended, even our Ana is taller than Haradinaj. Hahaha.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

________________________________________

@ chi chi

you cant think of any because you haven't read any books on eastern or western authors
only propaganda which I might add is nothing wrong with serbs preferring the blue pill rather than red pill that's their own choice to make and their own consequences to suffer

here is some more eastern authors since I only listed western in previous post:

Haki Pasha: "If the Albanian history emerges, the Ottoman Empire will go to the river".

Konstandin Paparigopulos: "Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Illyrian race."

Jovan Cvijiq: "South Slavs, after arrived in the Balkans, found there the Albanians, who under their pressure (Slavs) retreated southward and to most mountainous areas, where we face today."


Dusko Konstantinov: "Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula and direct descendants of the Illyrians, who had built the most powerful state in the Balkans."


Branislav Nušić: "Albanians are indigenous, who during all invasions of peoples kept its type and character significantly. They faced attacks by Romans, dense Slavs raids, who invaded them all fields, plains, and rivers ".

Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 1 May 2019 19:52)
===…==
You do dream big.
(Peggy, 2 May 2019 01:16) # Comment link


Yes I do "dream big" alla trump style mind you

Thank you for your compliment

viktor

pre 5 godina

There is only radical Islam and Kosovo Albanians and Bosniaks (Muslims) from Bosnia which support it. Proofs for it are everywhere. That is why we see that Great Albania is nonchalantly being created . Territories of other countries are flagrantly claimed. There is no evidence of Great Serbia.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Dacic has had a lot of time off to reflect on his failed foreign diplomacy since his work on "revocations" has come to a complete stop. He can keep himself busy talking about Bosnia as his hands are tight and he can't risk another b!tch slapping from Kosova.
(Time, 1 May 2019 16:29)

@ timeaj - What are you even talking about??? LOL, LOL

Me thinks you Albanians would trade pacolli for Dacic in a heartbeat, LOL, LOL, LOL

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Bre, 1 May 2019 15:01

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic.

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14)

@ springaj - that's a valiant effort and I applaud you for it!
tell me, what are you doing about the Albanian killers & rapists of Srbs still roaming free? Are you working hard to put them behind bars also?
What is the Plan? Please be detailed!

Chi

pre 5 godina

Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."

Humiliated Ministry, Nietzsche was talking about Serbs not you Albo fools that weren't even in Europe when he was alive. Goethe also praised the Serbs - FYI. Swear to GOD, you people would steal a pacifier out of a baby's mouth if you could. The only one praise you would ever get would come from a writer/philosopher from Turkey or the Middle East - ironically, I can't think of one... for your Anatolian hood that is!!! Sorry you don't have any history bro, but that's life, so just be the good newbies run Europe and continue to try and steal whatever you can - the rest of Europe is finally starting to smarten up.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors!
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 1 May 2019 15:46)


@ petey birdaj - Hmmm....seems like EVERYONE gives a "hoot" what Srbija thinks... Seems like everyone and there brother wants Srbija to "recognize" the land theft of KiM…
Not sure I understand what you're trying to say....

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

ou rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened .
(Who, 1 May 2019 17:02)

@ whoaj -

Try this: If the people who killed & raped believed in God, especially in the one true living God, the God of Abraham, Jacob & Isaac, they would not have killed or raped!

What does me believing in God have anything to do with Killers & rapists doing what they did??

Nancy

pre 5 godina

Dacic with total confusion again. The subject of the Berlin summit was only the Kosovo case. Why has accepted Belgrade to discuss this in Berlin with BiH? Now it’s useless to complain. Dacic will discuss this with Great powers. Nobody in Berlin or Paris would at all use this unclear term. If, they would speak about permanent members of the UN Security Council. But a real sovereign country would say, we will discuss this with Prishtina. Who needs a third party, which is clearly in the Prishtina side, to settle sovereign affairs? Only a non-independent state. Why Dacic can not stop his really primitive statements. You will never hear from Merkel or Macron such detailed statements concerning Serbia etc. Their are activities are not visible. But Belgrade has no activities, no Plattform at all but endless controversial statements. In these statements Belgrade is speaking mainly about artificial disputes in other countries. Belgrade had many years ago made the mistake to see deep disputes within the NATO. At the end ALL NATO members were fighting against Serbia. Serbia should now learn the lessons, before it is too late. Instead EU the UN Sec Council is the only address which can prevent Great Albania.

Amazing love how can it be?

pre 5 godina

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened . (Who, 1 May 2019 17:02)

If you were perfect, there would not have been a space between "happened" and the period (".") But there is. And humans have fallen from the good state in which God created them. Why? Otherwise, humans would not be capable of what we call love, a free and willing choice to set our affections on another person. Without choice, without love. But with choice comes the real possibility of its inverse -- evil. Of which we are all guilty. Thank God for HIS love which was amazingly displayed at Calvary!

njegos

pre 5 godina

To Ministry: I took it upon myself to do a little fact-checking on your sources and here's what I found:

Haki Pasha (You spelled it wrong, it's Hakki) I could only find 2 from historical research and they are: Hafiz who was a general in the Ottoman Army and Ibrahim who was an Ottoman Statesman. We can disqualify these sources as they are not historians, and I couldn't find anything they wrote on Albanians.

Konstandin Paparigopulos (You spelled this name wrong as well. It has 2 Rs in his last name. Here is a quote from your source: "...If I;lyrians were the brothers of Epirots and Macedonians, who were brothers of Greeks, then Albanians were of Greek stock" Congratulations, your source says Albanians are Greeks.

Jovan Cvijic (there is no spelling with a q on the end of his name) Nothing found on Albanians from this source.

Branislav Nusic - Serbian playwright. Great source!

Ganulla Papazogllu - Classical scholar, but very obsure. Makes references to Albanians in some of her writing, but nothing of their origins.

There you have it. Your sources are a joke, just like you and have proven nothing. Your spelling is atrocious. Back to the drawing board! That was fun...and too easy!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

Ministry, are these the only few books that even mention Albanians in European history? I can see by the names that there's a lot of Turkish overtones, so in the words of Donald. I call fake history/news. Listen, it's very evident where and how you people were manipulated into thinking that you're from the Balkans - Hoxha's fake history to try an create a history that's just not there buddy. Sorry, I almost feel sorry for you people because you have no identity and all your roots and DNA trace back to Turkey. Be proud of this, the Turks actually had a nice run back in the day. Stop trying to be something you're not.
(Chi, 2 May 2019 15:50) # Comment link
____________________________________

I could still post a longer list of authors for you to read chi chi
mind you I only have 1500 characters in each post on b92

I did not want to overwhelm you with a big long list since all you do is repeat the same domestic propaganda.

honestly I was only thinking in your best interest

further humbling or as you may interpret as humiliation is always available upon request but your plate is already full you may not want to bite more than you can chew I don't want you to choke chi chi

njegos

pre 4 godine

From Ministry: "The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian."

WRONG! The mistakes you made, in addition to your spelling errors, are: you used a play write and an Ottoman politician as a sources, not a credible historians. The couple obscure historians that you did reference make no mention of Albanian origins in the Balkans. You are a clown!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Kakva ironija, Dacic polaze venac na grob Dimitrija Tucovica najveceg i iskrenog kriticara Srpske politike prema Albancima...kada smo kod Tucovica i pandorine kutije.
(cika steva, 1. maj 2019 14:02)
(Avni, 1 May 2019 20:24)
===================
Avni, why are you always quoting from the Serbian part of B92?
If we wanted to know what is there we would go there. Please stick to the point at hand here or just post a link to what you want people to read like a normal person would do.

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Little Radical-Ivica still can’t see where things are headed to!
https://www.ocnal.com/2018/02/macedonian-prime-zoran-zaev-im-of.html?m=1
Lol, Son your in for a big surprises the genie has been let out of the bottle and it ain’t going back in!!!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.
(Lenard, 1 May 2019 22:56)
=========================
Which article are you commenting on? Certainly not this one. If you can't comment on an article you really should start your own blog just to rant.

Now Bosnian politicians wouldn't accept Serbia meddling in the internal affairs so why are they meddling in Serbia's internal affairs? If they want to make this their business then I say, Serbia go ahead and start interfering in their business.
Just wondering who it is they are trying to impress.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 1 May 2019 19:52)
======================
You do dream big.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14)
=====================
First of all I sympathize with any victim regardless of who they are but don't hold your breath. Just because she is an American citizen doesn't give her a ticket to some victory.
There are many, many, rape victims from that war on all sides. If her case was taken up who would they go after? Does she even know who that was? She cannot sue Serbia as a country because all the Serbian victims could then go after Croatia and Bosnia for the same thing. Do you see the problem here.
Croatia wanted to sue Serbia for damages but Serbia had the same ammunition against them. Where is that case now?
How powerful do you think an American citizenship is? Do you think it automatically has made her a God?
Who is going to bring justice to Serbian or Croatian victims of rape done by Bosnian Muslims?
Grow up.

Dardania'Alb

pre 4 godine

njegos, i've noticed many serbs like you are obsessed with other people's origins, meanwhile, you serbs don't even have a uniform theory for your own origins . with the Albanians there is only 1 or 2 prevailing theories within academia regarding Albanian origins, compared to the 4 or 5 different theories for Serbian origins, which even other serbs cant agree with one another.

now, the link you posted doesn't work, but i'm assuming it's a link for the Matzinger and Schumacher so called study. in which case you haven't done yourself any favors here on trying to debunk Albanians as the indigenous people long before serbs. Both Schumacher and Matzinger clearly state that the Albanian language is a native language spoken in Europe and balkans region for well over 3,000 years. they go on to note that Albanian origin has links to daco-Thracia, or between the Illyrian and Thracian contact zones. so already just with that reference you have debunked all of the gibberish propaganda coming from serbian hate mongers and propaganda trolls when it comes to who was there first.

njegos

pre 4 godine

Dardania'Alb - You've missed my point completely. I really don't care who came to the Balkans first, Serbs or Albanians. My issue with Albanians is their claim to be descendants of the ancient Ilyrians when there is no reliable evidence to support this thesis. Albanian history is so hard to trace because your people have converted and assimilated with every occupier that crossed your path to lead easier lives. Thus, there are no ancient manuscripts, no kingdoms, no battles and wars won and no real cultural identity. And more recently, Albanians are trying to claim that medieval Serbian churches were actually Albanian. Shameful!

And please explain why, if the Albanians are Europe's oldest people, have made the least progress? Look at what the Italians have done with their history, the Russians, the Germans and even the Serbs. There is real cultural identities with these nations with tangible evidence that they existed and continue to grow and thrive. The Albanians on the other hand are known as Europe's drug dealers.

So again, I repeat, I don't care who got to the Balkans first, just don't claim you're something you're not. You keep embarrassing yourselves.

Bre

pre 4 godine

To njegos and other people who might buy into his propaganda. There are credible studies for those interested like the one below. That serbs migrated to an albanian populated Illyria(now Balkans) is not contested history, ANYWHERE in the world. 

[link]
(Illyria, 3 May 2019 21:02) 

Credible from a thief? Sure. It's amazing how many credible sources Albanians have. Is ramush credible? Is the kla credible? Is Kosovo credible? Is USA credible?

See you cannot speak about being credible because nobody here thinks you are..

Have fun!

Bre

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.
(Lenard, 1 May 2019 22:56)

Wait are you talking about Albanians or Croations? I see you mention Serbs but then describe the other two...

Miloš Obilić

pre 4 godine

The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian.
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 3 May 2019 02:39)

WE the Serbs are indigenous to the Balkans!
WE the Serbs are descendants of Illiryan, Thracian (Scrodisci Triballi), Nordic, Celtic, Germanic and Hellenic people.
Basically all pre-Slavic tribes and nations who roamed the Balkan peninsula.

35% of all Serbs have Indigenous (pre Celtic/Germanic) European DNA (I2)
15% has Thracian DNA (E1b1b)
9% has Hellenic (J2)
9% of the population has Nordic DNA (I1) introduced by Vikings, so that's every 10th or 11th Serb carrying this DNA.
6% of the population has DNA connected to Celts (R1b)

Only 18% has Slavic (R1a) DNA, but we adapted their culture and language.

You Kosovo* Albanians and in the North (Ghegs?) have 50% north African mountain-tribe Berber DNA.
But here it comes, 0% indigenous European (I2)

The only reasonable explanation is that you were Ottoman slaves shipped in from all over the Ottoman empire.
That's why no one has ever heard about Albanians until the 14th century.

But what's even more astonishing is that you slaves stole our national hero Kastriot's identity, stole our white Byzantine eagle, painted it black and all of a sudden you are "Albanians"

So you've made some more mistakes

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

(njegos, 2 May 2019 21:19) # Comment link
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You left out 5 western only sources from previous post.

Also the serb source with q ending is obviously a c like most serb last name ending> Anyone from the Balkans could have made an educated guess on that especially you since you're a Montenegrin.

The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian.

Illyria

pre 4 godine

To njegos and other people who might buy into his propaganda. There are credible studies for those interested like the one below. That serbs migrated to an albanian populated Illyria(now Balkans) is not contested history, ANYWHERE in the world.

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555

njegos

pre 4 godine

Illyria - Are you serious? In the link you posted, searching for the origins of Albanians is like finding a needle in a haystack. Albanians aren't even mentioned for several pages. And between the statistical equations and the guesswork in the article, I had to wake myself up three times before I got through the entire piece. Is that the best you can do? You say your claims cannot be disputed anywhere in the world. Well, here's just one piece of from two Austrian researchers that conflict with your premise. Let me know if you would like more reading material. I can come up with several more, if needed.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ62DdrM1cnyMAbUxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyY3EyaG1nBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDQjY4OThfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1557011805/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fbalkaninsight.com%2f2011%2f03%2f25%2faustrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words%2f/RK=2/RS=Z7SvWecYOpsWq1IviShIFbH7Xf0-

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors!
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!

Bre

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors! 
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 1 May 2019 15:46) 

Clearly you are here commenting on it so how irrelevant can it be? Hmm. But please feel free to comment away about how much no one gives a frick and sound more stupid..

To all albos commenting...you cant come here and make comments as if you dont care.. the fact that you all come here says otherwise.

Bre

pre 5 godina

@Dacic, 
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!? 
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians! 
b92 failed to report!
(the truth, 1 May 2019 14:46) 

And your point is?

B92 failed to report people playing loud Albanian music outside the Serbian embassy? Thank God. Who cares? Albanians complaining to the Americans about war crimes...yaaaaaawnnnnnn. That's every day.

the truth

pre 5 godina

@Dacic,
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!?
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians!
b92 failed to report!

Spring

pre 5 godina

Bre, 1 May 2019 15:01

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic.

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.

Time

pre 5 godina

Dacic has had a lot of time off to reflect on his failed foreign diplomacy since his work on "revocations" has come to a complete stop. He can keep himself busy talking about Bosnia as his hands are tight and he can't risk another b!tch slapping from Kosova.

Nancy

pre 5 godina

Dacic with total confusion again. The subject of the Berlin summit was only the Kosovo case. Why has accepted Belgrade to discuss this in Berlin with BiH? Now it’s useless to complain. Dacic will discuss this with Great powers. Nobody in Berlin or Paris would at all use this unclear term. If, they would speak about permanent members of the UN Security Council. But a real sovereign country would say, we will discuss this with Prishtina. Who needs a third party, which is clearly in the Prishtina side, to settle sovereign affairs? Only a non-independent state. Why Dacic can not stop his really primitive statements. You will never hear from Merkel or Macron such detailed statements concerning Serbia etc. Their are activities are not visible. But Belgrade has no activities, no Plattform at all but endless controversial statements. In these statements Belgrade is speaking mainly about artificial disputes in other countries. Belgrade had many years ago made the mistake to see deep disputes within the NATO. At the end ALL NATO members were fighting against Serbia. Serbia should now learn the lessons, before it is too late. Instead EU the UN Sec Council is the only address which can prevent Great Albania.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

@Dacic,
I am wondering if your Embassy in Washington DC notified you that; Albanians were playing loud Albanian music and making that eagle sign in front of your Embassy yesterday, after Congressional Hearing held yesterday!?
The hearing was about crimes committed by Serb forces against K-Albanians!
b92 failed to report!
(the truth, 1 May 2019 14:46)

@ thruthaj - Whats wrong with that? This is called "freedom of expression" and can be done with no problem when in a country that believes in it>
Let these "brave" Albanians go do that in Beograd...see what happens. Just ask your comrade who owns pekara "Roma" in BG when his cousin flashed the "eagle" sign and posted it on social media...

Easy to do it in America. try it in Srbija.
The same would happen if Srbs did the tree-finger salute in Tirana....
Not understanding your point!

As far as the Hearing, the only issue I have is every side claims only THEIR injustices....I believe many Rapes happened, but from ALL sides.

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....

Who

pre 5 godina

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened .

Bre

pre 5 godina

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic. 

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14) 

I know it's a little late but I fell asleep reading your comment.. yaaaaaawwwnnnn

Anything else?

Lenard

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.

viktor

pre 5 godina

There is only radical Islam and Kosovo Albanians and Bosniaks (Muslims) from Bosnia which support it. Proofs for it are everywhere. That is why we see that Great Albania is nonchalantly being created . Territories of other countries are flagrantly claimed. There is no evidence of Great Serbia.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Bre, 1 May 2019 15:01

You will yawn alright when half of criminal Serbia ends up in jail like Radovan Karadzic.

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14)

@ springaj - that's a valiant effort and I applaud you for it!
tell me, what are you doing about the Albanian killers & rapists of Srbs still roaming free? Are you working hard to put them behind bars also?
What is the Plan? Please be detailed!

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Serbia's most horrific crimes were on display in Congress yesterday. The 16 year old girl that was raped by two serbian criminals talked about her whole horrific situation. She is an American citizen and she is not going to stop until the Justice has been served for her and the other 20,000 women that were raped by these criminal animals. Kosova is not Bosnia, and it will never stop until we get all these criminals behind the bars.
(Spring, 1 May 2019 16:14)
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First of all I sympathize with any victim regardless of who they are but don't hold your breath. Just because she is an American citizen doesn't give her a ticket to some victory.
There are many, many, rape victims from that war on all sides. If her case was taken up who would they go after? Does she even know who that was? She cannot sue Serbia as a country because all the Serbian victims could then go after Croatia and Bosnia for the same thing. Do you see the problem here.
Croatia wanted to sue Serbia for damages but Serbia had the same ammunition against them. Where is that case now?
How powerful do you think an American citizenship is? Do you think it automatically has made her a God?
Who is going to bring justice to Serbian or Croatian victims of rape done by Bosnian Muslims?
Grow up.

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Lmao, Radical-Serbia still intent on trying to intimidate its neighbors!
The only thing little penguin I Dacic still can’t understand is that every neighboring country doesn’t give a FU.. what Radical-Serbia thinks, says or does it’s irrelevant!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 1 May 2019 15:46)


@ petey birdaj - Hmmm....seems like EVERYONE gives a "hoot" what Srbija thinks... Seems like everyone and there brother wants Srbija to "recognize" the land theft of KiM…
Not sure I understand what you're trying to say....

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

ou rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened .
(Who, 1 May 2019 17:02)

@ whoaj -

Try this: If the people who killed & raped believed in God, especially in the one true living God, the God of Abraham, Jacob & Isaac, they would not have killed or raped!

What does me believing in God have anything to do with Killers & rapists doing what they did??

Watcherovic

pre 5 godina

Dacic has had a lot of time off to reflect on his failed foreign diplomacy since his work on "revocations" has come to a complete stop. He can keep himself busy talking about Bosnia as his hands are tight and he can't risk another b!tch slapping from Kosova.
(Time, 1 May 2019 16:29)

@ timeaj - What are you even talking about??? LOL, LOL

Me thinks you Albanians would trade pacolli for Dacic in a heartbeat, LOL, LOL, LOL

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

this is why merkel is against border correction or exchanges

bosnia would be next with republika liquidation waiting

plus kosova ows serbia nothing serbia ows kosova another kosova

Sanxhak
preshev
bujanoc
medvjegj
molla e kuqe up to nish

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina

Avni

pre 5 godina

(Bre, 1 May 2019 16:28)

Kakva ironija, Dacic polaze venac na grob Dimitrija Tucovica najveceg i iskrenog kriticara Srpske politike prema Albancima...kada smo kod Tucovica i pandorine kutije.
(cika steva, 1. maj 2019 14:02)

Marika

pre 5 godina

Watcherovic, What is a “tree finger” salute?

I remember a few years ago in Tirana, a Serb delegation was visiting with a Bishop. A couple of his butt boys decided to march down the main boulevard carrying Serb flags. There was no response from the general populous except for some snickering from the local kids.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.
(Lenard, 1 May 2019 22:56)
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Which article are you commenting on? Certainly not this one. If you can't comment on an article you really should start your own blog just to rant.

Now Bosnian politicians wouldn't accept Serbia meddling in the internal affairs so why are they meddling in Serbia's internal affairs? If they want to make this their business then I say, Serbia go ahead and start interfering in their business.
Just wondering who it is they are trying to impress.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."

Humiliated Ministry, Nietzsche was talking about Serbs not you Albo fools that weren't even in Europe when he was alive. Goethe also praised the Serbs - FYI. Swear to GOD, you people would steal a pacifier out of a baby's mouth if you could. The only one praise you would ever get would come from a writer/philosopher from Turkey or the Middle East - ironically, I can't think of one... for your Anatolian hood that is!!! Sorry you don't have any history bro, but that's life, so just be the good newbies run Europe and continue to try and steal whatever you can - the rest of Europe is finally starting to smarten up.

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

Ministry, are these the only few books that even mention Albanians in European history? I can see by the names that there's a lot of Turkish overtones, so in the words of Donald. I call fake history/news. Listen, it's very evident where and how you people were manipulated into thinking that you're from the Balkans - Hoxha's fake history to try an create a history that's just not there buddy. Sorry, I almost feel sorry for you people because you have no identity and all your roots and DNA trace back to Turkey. Be proud of this, the Turks actually had a nice run back in the day. Stop trying to be something you're not.
(Chi, 2 May 2019 15:50) # Comment link
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I could still post a longer list of authors for you to read chi chi
mind you I only have 1500 characters in each post on b92

I did not want to overwhelm you with a big long list since all you do is repeat the same domestic propaganda.

honestly I was only thinking in your best interest

further humbling or as you may interpret as humiliation is always available upon request but your plate is already full you may not want to bite more than you can chew I don't want you to choke chi chi

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

@the truth
Maybe, just maybe. All along we all know that you are common, primitive from, 11th century.
Let others find out, too.
(Ljiljana, 1 May 2019 15:34)
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I love it every time a serb underestimates Albanian people because they end up humiliating themselves in every situation


Here is what some western individuals who have left mark on history had to say about us :


Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."


Alphonse de Lamartine: "Albanians, this nation and this people can not be mocked ... This is the land of heroes of all time ... Homer found there Achilles, the Greeks Alexander the Great, Turks found Skanderbeg, people these of the same race, the same blood" .


Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than history itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side) ".


Nicolas Iorga: "The Albanian people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe."


Edvin Pears: "Albanians are descendants of the oldest race of the Balkan Peninsula, namely the Aryan race, to draw this word from two Albanian roots of words: Gold and side, which i.e. people of pure gold."

Bre

pre 5 godina

Just like incorrigible criminal Serbia did and so much worse Dacic. The ICTY in the Hague forgot about you. With so many despicable criminals Serbs in burgeoning jails all across Europe. Don't worry Dacic your day will be coming hear or the afterlife. Dacic you haven't got away with nothing.
(Lenard, 1 May 2019 22:56)

Wait are you talking about Albanians or Croations? I see you mention Serbs but then describe the other two...

Peggy

pre 5 godina

Kakva ironija, Dacic polaze venac na grob Dimitrija Tucovica najveceg i iskrenog kriticara Srpske politike prema Albancima...kada smo kod Tucovica i pandorine kutije.
(cika steva, 1. maj 2019 14:02)
(Avni, 1 May 2019 20:24)
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Avni, why are you always quoting from the Serbian part of B92?
If we wanted to know what is there we would go there. Please stick to the point at hand here or just post a link to what you want people to read like a normal person would do.

Peggy

pre 5 godina

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 1 May 2019 19:52)
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You do dream big.

The Truth

pre 5 godina

To all Bosnian Friends you guys are on your ancestors land don’t let these migrants Slavs take more land of ours enough is enough and even the dead now by now that idea of land swap between Serbia and Kosovo have huge plane behind that in future Will be used by repubilica Serbs to join Serbia and Bosnia won’t be having anything in exchange,So stay strong my friends and we know that you dream is to recognise Kosovo but situation with this idiots Slav migrants is not allowing you to do so.
We are happy and ok when Illyrian people are ok ,do not forget Bosnian people are our small brother
Ademovichs,Jasharovichs,Gashovichs,Lajicis,etc etc are Bosnian Albanians that still runs our lands of Bosnia .🇦🇱🇧🇦🇭🇷🇲🇪🇽🇰🇲🇰Are Illyrian on their ancient ancestors lands and 🇷🇸 are slav foreigners on our Lands .

Peter The Rocky Mountains

pre 5 godina

Little Radical-Ivica still can’t see where things are headed to!
https://www.ocnal.com/2018/02/macedonian-prime-zoran-zaev-im-of.html?m=1
Lol, Son your in for a big surprises the genie has been let out of the bottle and it ain’t going back in!!!

Chi

pre 5 godina

Little Radical-Ivica still can’t see where things are headed to!
[link]
Lol, Son your in for a big surprises the genie has been let out of the bottle and it ain’t going back in!!!
(Peter The Rocky Mountains, 2 May 2019 15:22

Rocky, "little Ivica", LOL. Did you see the group picture of the summit in Germany? You're boy Ramush was standing on a platform in the back and he was barely taller than Merkel. WHat's he, lie 5'2"? This is typical of Turks, and as you well know, Serbian men are among the top 3 tallest in the world. For Pete's sake, no pun intended, even our Ana is taller than Haradinaj. Hahaha.

Chi

pre 5 godina

Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 2 May 2019 10:07)

Ministry, are these the only few books that even mention Albanians in European history? I can see by the names that there's a lot of Turkish overtones, so in the words of Donald. I call fake history/news. Listen, it's very evident where and how you people were manipulated into thinking that you're from the Balkans - Hoxha's fake history to try an create a history that's just not there buddy. Sorry, I almost feel sorry for you people because you have no identity and all your roots and DNA trace back to Turkey. Be proud of this, the Turks actually had a nice run back in the day. Stop trying to be something you're not.

Miloš Obilić

pre 4 godine

The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian.
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 3 May 2019 02:39)

WE the Serbs are indigenous to the Balkans!
WE the Serbs are descendants of Illiryan, Thracian (Scrodisci Triballi), Nordic, Celtic, Germanic and Hellenic people.
Basically all pre-Slavic tribes and nations who roamed the Balkan peninsula.

35% of all Serbs have Indigenous (pre Celtic/Germanic) European DNA (I2)
15% has Thracian DNA (E1b1b)
9% has Hellenic (J2)
9% of the population has Nordic DNA (I1) introduced by Vikings, so that's every 10th or 11th Serb carrying this DNA.
6% of the population has DNA connected to Celts (R1b)

Only 18% has Slavic (R1a) DNA, but we adapted their culture and language.

You Kosovo* Albanians and in the North (Ghegs?) have 50% north African mountain-tribe Berber DNA.
But here it comes, 0% indigenous European (I2)

The only reasonable explanation is that you were Ottoman slaves shipped in from all over the Ottoman empire.
That's why no one has ever heard about Albanians until the 14th century.

But what's even more astonishing is that you slaves stole our national hero Kastriot's identity, stole our white Byzantine eagle, painted it black and all of a sudden you are "Albanians"

So you've made some more mistakes

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

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@ chi chi

you cant think of any because you haven't read any books on eastern or western authors
only propaganda which I might add is nothing wrong with serbs preferring the blue pill rather than red pill that's their own choice to make and their own consequences to suffer

here is some more eastern authors since I only listed western in previous post:

Haki Pasha: "If the Albanian history emerges, the Ottoman Empire will go to the river".

Konstandin Paparigopulos: "Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Illyrian race."

Jovan Cvijiq: "South Slavs, after arrived in the Balkans, found there the Albanians, who under their pressure (Slavs) retreated southward and to most mountainous areas, where we face today."


Dusko Konstantinov: "Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula and direct descendants of the Illyrians, who had built the most powerful state in the Balkans."


Branislav Nušić: "Albanians are indigenous, who during all invasions of peoples kept its type and character significantly. They faced attacks by Romans, dense Slavs raids, who invaded them all fields, plains, and rivers ".

Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

that leaves serbia with pashalluk of beograd and vojvodina
(Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda, 1 May 2019 19:52)
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You do dream big.
(Peggy, 2 May 2019 01:16) # Comment link


Yes I do "dream big" alla trump style mind you

Thank you for your compliment

Amazing love how can it be?

pre 5 godina

You rely on the US Congress to get you justice, I will rely on Almighty GOD to do what he sees fit for justice....
(Watcherovic, 1 May 2019 15:43)

If you believe in Almighty GOD, those killings and rapes would’ve never happened . (Who, 1 May 2019 17:02)

If you were perfect, there would not have been a space between "happened" and the period (".") But there is. And humans have fallen from the good state in which God created them. Why? Otherwise, humans would not be capable of what we call love, a free and willing choice to set our affections on another person. Without choice, without love. But with choice comes the real possibility of its inverse -- evil. Of which we are all guilty. Thank God for HIS love which was amazingly displayed at Calvary!

njegos

pre 5 godina

To Ministry: I took it upon myself to do a little fact-checking on your sources and here's what I found:

Haki Pasha (You spelled it wrong, it's Hakki) I could only find 2 from historical research and they are: Hafiz who was a general in the Ottoman Army and Ibrahim who was an Ottoman Statesman. We can disqualify these sources as they are not historians, and I couldn't find anything they wrote on Albanians.

Konstandin Paparigopulos (You spelled this name wrong as well. It has 2 Rs in his last name. Here is a quote from your source: "...If I;lyrians were the brothers of Epirots and Macedonians, who were brothers of Greeks, then Albanians were of Greek stock" Congratulations, your source says Albanians are Greeks.

Jovan Cvijic (there is no spelling with a q on the end of his name) Nothing found on Albanians from this source.

Branislav Nusic - Serbian playwright. Great source!

Ganulla Papazogllu - Classical scholar, but very obsure. Makes references to Albanians in some of her writing, but nothing of their origins.

There you have it. Your sources are a joke, just like you and have proven nothing. Your spelling is atrocious. Back to the drawing board! That was fun...and too easy!

Ministry of Humiliation and Propaganda

pre 5 godina

(njegos, 2 May 2019 21:19) # Comment link
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You left out 5 western only sources from previous post.

Also the serb source with q ending is obviously a c like most serb last name ending> Anyone from the Balkans could have made an educated guess on that especially you since you're a Montenegrin.

The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian.

njegos

pre 4 godine

From Ministry: "The only mistake I made is spelling some of their names in Albanian."

WRONG! The mistakes you made, in addition to your spelling errors, are: you used a play write and an Ottoman politician as a sources, not a credible historians. The couple obscure historians that you did reference make no mention of Albanian origins in the Balkans. You are a clown!

Illyria

pre 4 godine

To njegos and other people who might buy into his propaganda. There are credible studies for those interested like the one below. That serbs migrated to an albanian populated Illyria(now Balkans) is not contested history, ANYWHERE in the world.

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001555

njegos

pre 4 godine

Dardania'Alb - You've missed my point completely. I really don't care who came to the Balkans first, Serbs or Albanians. My issue with Albanians is their claim to be descendants of the ancient Ilyrians when there is no reliable evidence to support this thesis. Albanian history is so hard to trace because your people have converted and assimilated with every occupier that crossed your path to lead easier lives. Thus, there are no ancient manuscripts, no kingdoms, no battles and wars won and no real cultural identity. And more recently, Albanians are trying to claim that medieval Serbian churches were actually Albanian. Shameful!

And please explain why, if the Albanians are Europe's oldest people, have made the least progress? Look at what the Italians have done with their history, the Russians, the Germans and even the Serbs. There is real cultural identities with these nations with tangible evidence that they existed and continue to grow and thrive. The Albanians on the other hand are known as Europe's drug dealers.

So again, I repeat, I don't care who got to the Balkans first, just don't claim you're something you're not. You keep embarrassing yourselves.

Bre

pre 4 godine

To njegos and other people who might buy into his propaganda. There are credible studies for those interested like the one below. That serbs migrated to an albanian populated Illyria(now Balkans) is not contested history, ANYWHERE in the world. 

[link]
(Illyria, 3 May 2019 21:02) 

Credible from a thief? Sure. It's amazing how many credible sources Albanians have. Is ramush credible? Is the kla credible? Is Kosovo credible? Is USA credible?

See you cannot speak about being credible because nobody here thinks you are..

Have fun!

Dardania'Alb

pre 4 godine

njegos, i've noticed many serbs like you are obsessed with other people's origins, meanwhile, you serbs don't even have a uniform theory for your own origins . with the Albanians there is only 1 or 2 prevailing theories within academia regarding Albanian origins, compared to the 4 or 5 different theories for Serbian origins, which even other serbs cant agree with one another.

now, the link you posted doesn't work, but i'm assuming it's a link for the Matzinger and Schumacher so called study. in which case you haven't done yourself any favors here on trying to debunk Albanians as the indigenous people long before serbs. Both Schumacher and Matzinger clearly state that the Albanian language is a native language spoken in Europe and balkans region for well over 3,000 years. they go on to note that Albanian origin has links to daco-Thracia, or between the Illyrian and Thracian contact zones. so already just with that reference you have debunked all of the gibberish propaganda coming from serbian hate mongers and propaganda trolls when it comes to who was there first.

njegos

pre 4 godine

Illyria - Are you serious? In the link you posted, searching for the origins of Albanians is like finding a needle in a haystack. Albanians aren't even mentioned for several pages. And between the statistical equations and the guesswork in the article, I had to wake myself up three times before I got through the entire piece. Is that the best you can do? You say your claims cannot be disputed anywhere in the world. Well, here's just one piece of from two Austrian researchers that conflict with your premise. Let me know if you would like more reading material. I can come up with several more, if needed.

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ62DdrM1cnyMAbUxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyY3EyaG1nBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDQjY4OThfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1557011805/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fbalkaninsight.com%2f2011%2f03%2f25%2faustrian-scholars-leave-albania-lost-for-words%2f/RK=2/RS=Z7SvWecYOpsWq1IviShIFbH7Xf0-